>DDLC if it was good

>>713496007 (OP)
Isn't she canonically unattractive looking in-universe?

deer mom sex

>>713496064
literally everyone in town wants to bang the deer, how is she unattractive?

>>713496007 (OP)
I'm actually curious, is there anyone in these threads that played Chapter 1-4 all at once for the first time? Feels like the large majority of opinions are coming from people that already did 1+2 a long time ago

>>713496007 (OP)
Passionate lovemaking with Noelle.

>>713496007 (OP)
Check this out

>>713496007 (OP)

>>713496064
In the sprites she is the best-looking character by far

>>713496007 (OP)
>"When did you start being yourself?"

>>713496232
first 2 chapters were free for a long time (and still are) so it's not that farfetched to say every Deltarune player is a returning player

>Another general

>Another janny wannabe

>LARPing as a fucking janitor

>>713500118
how LONG have you been UP

>>713496064
Not really she just has a long head

>>713500352

>>713500547
I HATE BEES

HEY!
Stop playing deltarune!
I'm tired of your stupid deltarune!
Aren't you too OOOOOOLD to be playing deltarune?

>>713500695
These kids need an adult to keep an eye on them. Might as well be me.

What are some theories that you guys have seen that you don't believe in, but you have to admit they have legs to stand on now after the new chapters? For me it's Rudy being the knight and Susie being half human as much I hate that one

Another glorious thread

It's not your mother anymore.
It's everybody's mother.

>>713496203
>>713496064
sauce?

new deltarune edit bait just dropped

>>713500791
The Weird route being the "good" route.

I don't get why so many people are against the idea of penumbra phantasm showing up in deltarune, it's referenced in hopes and dreams, it's referenced in the holy and it's a song that people been waiting for since the homestuck era, the only arguments I've heard against it is people saying it's too close to doctor as if that really matter, there's evidence for it but it got more hate than bloody woody theory

>>713500945
Yeah it's hard for me to believe that one too with this dialogue. I'd be curious how a weird route = good route believer reconciles this. I guess you could just say Ralsei is wrong and this just didn't mean anything, but that's hard to believe.

>>713496232
I played all 4 for the first time this month, what about it?

>>713500936
the game

you guys have to remember that the prophecy's whole point is preventing a calamity.
So snowgrave defies the prophecy by enforcing the calamity instead

>>713500791
I believe Toby Fox needs his own board

>>713501112
Chapter 3's shadow mantle being locked behind weird route-esque sequence breaking while at the same time giving you the only thing you get to use to resist an inevitable outcome.

>>713501249
Only when the CHADS of /a/ get their own board first

>>713501213
>Instead sacrificing the Darkners to prevent calamity we just kill them so its not possible to prevent it in the first place
Genius move, but at least Noelle will become the queen of ice.

>>713501365
No chance you're only sacrificing darkners for the prophecy.

>>713496007 (OP)

Bestiality is against park regulations.

https://youtu.be/MUDGfeO9-kI

>>713501058
The usual HS hateboner + Toby saying that he doesn't plan to reuse any music related to Homestuck in Deltarune.

>>713500791
Never believed in Kris Knight, but after chapter 4 it's clear that most of the evidence for Kris Knight ended up being true, it just all ended up pointing to Kris being part of the Knight conspiracy rather than being the Knight themselves.
Also Dess Knight was a complete crack theory before chapter 3 basically confirmed it.

>>713499845
What did Toby mean by this?

Noelle, what are you doing? NOELLE STOP, YOU'RE GONNA SHOVE HIM OFF THE COUCH NO STOP-

>>713501413
Put the exact link from the spriters resource you got this from NOW

>>713501365
they're not killed, they're frozen.
In time. For eternity.
With Kris and Noelle being the only ones who remain. Used up, but remain.

>>713496007 (OP)
Would the reception went better if Noelle is male and Kris is female??

>>713501486
is this real? does noelle ever hit on kris?

>>713501527
No because everyone would hate Krusie and call it yurislop, and male noelle having a crush on Susie would make self-inserters even more angry.

>>713501527
>>713501568
>>713501572

Gameplay discussion?

>>713501486
In another world Noelle was the one that deflowered kris

>>713501589
It's fun. The knight is probably one of the most fun fights in the game.

>>713496007 (OP)
Rape the deer!

>>713501523
It's just fanart, artist is in the filename

>>713501523
Anon, the source is right there in the filename.

>>713501602
HOT

>>713501602
what would their half deer half human kid look like?

Is Dess dead or is it ambiguous? I don't remember.

>>713501734
She's "missing".

>>713501734
Either way she's certainly a goner

>>713501614
YWNBAW

Man, is there anyone in this stupid fucking game that's hetero
https://youtu.be/yWYRrD7K8f4

>>713501183
Where? Post specific lines of dialog.

>completely broken kris on the bed
>removing the soul and doing anything likely is painful and requires constant concentration
>it was all pointless and undone in a few minutes
>can't even take susie to the festival because he has to save strength to resist the soul from hurting noelle more

kino

>>713501860
So what did you think of chapters 3 and 4 anyway? Did you have fun? I personally found them more fun than canto 8 though it's definitely an unfair comparison.

>>713496064
Susie calls her "top shelf goods" when you speak to her dying dad in hospital after church.

>>713501898
play the game

>>713501486
I kept seeing references to Part 3+4 having rape without context so when this scene started I thought she was going yandere on Kris

>>713501602
Monster/Human sex is forbidden by Allah

>>713501860
Stop impersonating me, faggot. Go back.

>>713501486
Snowgrave is Noelle route and normal route is Krusie route

>>713501860
>>713501905
If this is some avatar/samefag shit then im glad janny deletes these threads

>>713496064
She has the literal "girl-next-door" cute girl appearance. Sure she has some goofy facial features, but they just add to her charm. But she's got big doe eyes (again literally), long pretty hair and an earnest smile. She's not a supermodel, but damn she's a keeper.

>>713501905
i don't play limbus. Ch3 was horrible. Ch4 was a chore but i like the turtle guy

>>713501735
> Chapter 7, it's revealed Papyrus found Dess off-screen, and she's completely fine
> They've been doing some sort of romantic comedy sidestory.
> It's the first time either has appeared in the game
the most retarded idea I've ever thought up, but it could be funny

>>713500791
The FRIEND is Mike theory
I'm losing my mind, especially because I went to play the rarecats game on the website for the first time without being aware of it and I got jumpscared by that fucker almost instantly, creepy fucker.
Has anyone gotten the super ultra rare angel cat? does it send you to the same church windows site? or does it send you somewhere else?

WHAT OBJECT IS STARWALKER

>>713501602
>doe pussy on the front page
Daring today, aren't we anonymous.

>>713502179
Are you not able to see what he is when you go into the light world? I actually don't know.

>>713501987
Islam doesn't exist in deltarune. Would you like to hear about the angel though?

>>713502179
he's a star Walker

>>713501905
I think canto 8 was OK overall. But Hong Lu is the only sinner whose book I have not read, so I might've missed some cool references.
Chapter 3 was mid on my first run, but I loved it on a second playthrough when I got all the secrets.
Chapter 4 was really good. Kris became my favourite character after I finished showgrave.

>>713501183
i just lost the game

>stay on normal route
>flawlessly defeat all foes in our path
>get all the secret content
>don't forget to trigger the optional susie hangouts near the lake
>kris still beats the shit out of me with a stick

I hope we get revenge on this little faggot

>>713500695
SHUT UP

So if you decide to pray for Asriel in the church Kris does it in a very disinterested way, even though he's constantly looking in the internet for college vacations so he can see him once again.
Does he really give a shit about Asriel? or is his relationship with him as broken as it is with everyone else by the start of the game?

>>713502118
Why did she chose to betray Kris and become a lesbian with Susie?

>>713501112
>>713501258
It's going to play into reading in between the lines
You are for sure going to dip into Snowgrave for the true end
Noelle standing on her feet will be important later, but going to far will be a problem

Remember the apple scene with Gerson at the tea table
>locking into Snowgrave completely makes Kris eat the apple overzealously and hit a seed
Don't be overzealous, eat the apple bit by bit reasonably to get its benefits

>>713501602
jannie sama... are you okay???

>>713502358
Asriel BETRAYED and ABANDONED Kris to be stuck in that shitty town with divorced parents

>>713502358
I believe it is more that (You) shouldn't be praying for Asriel. It is as halfhearted a measure as Kris praying for your family members. You don't know him, so don't bother.
He has a similar rejection if you pray for Noelle in the Weird Route, even worse if you try it again.

We are lucky to have our hard working unpaid janny interns keeping our boards clean. Keep it up sport, and you just might get hired as a full time janny.

>The Soul (You) breeds a new piece of yourself into Noelle in chapter 4, as evidenced by both times you can see that little red piece of (You) floating in the dark in Noelle when you think of her (once when Ralsei asks, once before the credits)
>Through doing this, Noelle becomes "The Girl" in the prophecy because she finds "LOVE" by the Undertale definition

Kris is the cage, Noelle is the girl, Ralsei is still the prince.
I think the prophecy might be able to simply be interpreted in different ways depending on the route but for all I know Tricky Tony could just merge all the routes into one and go "haha lol lmao no choices matter"

>>713502371
Because Kris is both extremely autistic and traumatized and probably felt guilty about whatever happened to Dess, and so Noelle starts pining for Susie because she likes how similar she is to Kris and Dess, her two favorite people in the world.

>>713502358
Kris is just not good at expressing himself.

>>713502258
>>713501905
>>713502117
>>713501860
Stop replying to yourself

>>713502569
He seemed to express himself fine when I made him pray for Susie, or when he drew her like he used to draw with Asriel back in the day

>>713502358
>>713502474
For reference. Kris has quite a few little melties in the weird route. Cute

>>713502614
Any time he isn't a mumbling autist it's the heart talking.

>>713501728

>>713500118

>>713502620
Seethe Route

>>713496007 (OP)
Papyrus is the ONE WHO ROARS
>Has not appeared yet but his name when entered in the goner maker gets the same reaction that Asriel, Berdly, Asgore and other important characters get.
>In undertale, he wanted to join the royal guard because he wanted to become powerful, popular, and prestigious. Working under the mayor will give you all that and more.
>In Undertale, Undyne specifically called out Papyrus for his incredible strength. This implies they are around the same strength level or Papyrus may be stronger than her, which would explain why he carried her across hometown so easily.
>The knight never kills the party in their first encounter the same way Papyrus never kills Frisk. Both posses incredible control over their attacks
>The doors that the knight hides in are for a large person. Papyrus is big but just small enough to fit in those doors.
>The knight's head is a red hearing. It is a helmet. Something Carol could have given Papyrus as an insignia of working for the Holidays https://youtu.be/ncGNdt92hIM?t=54
>Papyrus being a powerful person manipulated into doing the dirty work of the Mayor could serve as an obvious thematic parallel to the weird route. Sans was concerned about Flowey's influence on him in Undertale.
>Dess is trapped in the code/dark world. She is most likely being searched for.
>Carol has a festival and other mayor duties to deal with. She can't do those things and be the knight at the same time.
>Besides, if she was caught it would ruin her career as the mayor. Papyrus is some new guy desperate for attention and fame. Perfect for the job.
>And most damning of all, It is physically impossible for the above does to do pic related or morph into a floating ball without seriously messing up their bodily anatomy.
ALWAYS BET ON A PAPYRUS KNIGHT

>>713502542
>Susie is a bully who push and trash Kris around
>Her reaction is to give away her virginity to her instead actually try to call Alphys or help Kris
What a fucking whore. If it wasn't for Susie being an actual sweetheart, Noelle would just be an awful pervert

>>713502620
Why did Kris have a crashout in this scene apecifically anyway?

>>713501834
>>713501953
Doesn't it sort of feel like everyone forgot about her?
Maybe the prophecy happened before and Dess took the hit to save things

>>713501602
>Thrust the soul into Noelle instead of Kris
>she puts the throne ring on herself and gives Kris an insane look
>Because she's stronger than Kris at this point she pins him down easily and ferociously starts slathering his lips with hers.
>Kris is shaking and crying as he tries to snap her out of it
>Her clothes come off.
>His voice gets much quieter
>She inserts with no regard for either of their comfort
>Susie is just outside listening to the rapid pounding of flesh on fur.

>>713502724
He knows the heart's making fun of him.

Man if the divorce was that bad for Tenna I can't imagine what Toriel's wedding bouquet are going to be like in the Dark World, especially since Asgore talks to them all the time
I hope they're incredibly loyal to him, he deserves better

>>713502675
why's this one more normal looking to me despite the other one also having antlers and ears

Doe rape is legit the best part of this game

>>713502724
you just forced him to rape noelle earlier
now you're making him pray for her
YOU are clearly fucking with him at that point

Do people actually believe the rape thing? I thought /v/ was memeing.

>>713502675
Based aunt

>>713501987
Fucking everything is forbidden by Allah. How do you people get anything done when you aren't allowed to do anything?

>>713502698
Honestly the writing of that particular blogpost just feels very inconsistent with the rest of what we've seen of these characters. That said,
>Her reaction is to give away her virginity to her instead actually try to call Alphys or help Kris
give her a break, she was also scared shitless. It just happens that she's been conditioned to find scary shit hot thanks to Kris.
And they're both in love with Susie anyway, so I'm sure they'll all figure it out.

>>713502886
It's literally in the game.

>>713501602
AI sloppa is getting cleaner and cleaner every day
Did you make this yourself or use a site?

Lol

>>713502886
Toby is a fucking mong and a hack. Yes it was rape but then he realized it was le bad to rape so he le changed le deflowering

Dogshit game

OH i t hought you were not pretending to be retarded, but you are not memeing are you le memeing? epic

>>713502724
>make Kris abuse Noelle in the cyber world
>make her kill (to her knowledge) Berdly when she doesn't want to
>make Kris return the thorn ring by jamming it into her entirely against either of their wills
>THEN have the absolute GALL to say "Let's pray for Noelle Kris, ok?"

I'm actually quite hyped for the Kris Seethe/Noelle mind break route we appear to be heading for

>>713502886
it's obviously not actually rape but people just refer to it as that

>>713502926
Found on r34

>>713502958
Thumbnail literally looks like Mother 3

I'm such a happy soul!

>>713502829
>rape
are the kids still running with this fanfic?

>>713502579
Sorry, It's hard to keep voices in my head in check

>>713503008
whos the baseball dude?

>>713503036
>>713502829
Toby micro dick sucking club

>>713502886
Autists have nothing else to discuss than event that look similar to their NTR games but is actually just Kris putting a thorn ring on Noelle. Toby being retarded and adding the rose was also the reason

>>713502886
>I thought /v/ was memeing.
It's all memes don't let the jokes get to ya I love the Doe rape memes but in truth it's just waiting it out for Chapter 5. Regardless Weird Route in my eyes is just a continuation of Noelle's entire situation that's been shown by what Toby gave us because it's obvious at this point that Noelle is a Lot things some people won't admit she is

>>713502886
The original depiction of the act led people to believe that's what it was, and Toby changing it only reinforced their interpretation because people here only think with their dicks and they think rape is hot as fuck.
Personally my first thought was loss of innocence, now it feels more violent, I can only blame cumbrains for being loud, and Toby for actually browsing this fucking shithole

>>713502886
To be honest, I doubt there was anything like that because the game has a pretty low age rating, doesn’t touch on heavy themes, and is generally zoomer-coded, which doesn’t lend itself to exploring complex aspects of life.

Most likely, Toby just didn’t realize he created this absurd metaphor, and people started making memes because it’s funny.

The scene probably just represents a loss of innocence in terms of realizing the harshness of existence, not literal benis-in-vagina penetration.

>>713503065
Nigger are you serious

how fucked am i

>>713502371
>>713502698
>>713502371
Noelle is legitimately kind of a cunt. And this is considering the fact that Susie's best trait is that she actually stands up for her friends. We're supposed to see that in Susie and appreciate it when Lancer's dad is threatening him.
What does Noelle do for her friends?

>>713503083
>absurd metaphor
There is litearlly no other meaning to a deflowering you mongoloid retard.

This is what happens when you are illeterate IRL and you write a story. Toby is a fraud and probably put rape in the gaming without realizing it.

>>713501437
Yeah, the theory was right except Kris turned out to be the Roaring Squire rather than the Roaring Knight.

>>713503103
Surely this isn't the best you've got?

>>713503145
>illeterate

>>713503138
Yeah Noelle is a very weak, selfish, and broken person who harbors a lot of weird complexes and trauma that are just screaming to be given an outlet
That is exactly why I love her

>>713502396
>>713501112
Sacrificing Noelle is probably part of the prophecy, but if she gets really fucking strong it might end up unneeded.

>>713502957
*glomps u*

>>713503103
Can you still find your hand?

Me when Smash Bros. 6 has Susie in it and you can fight to songs like It's TV Time! and The World Revolving.

>>713502958
Something looks a little different today...

>>713502179
Save Point (Forma Pre-G-Follower)

>>713503212
>weird complexes and trauma that are just screaming to be given an outlet
>That is exactly why I love her
I mean that's kinda the best parts when you look deeper into her which makes me wonder how she'll act in later chapters of werid Route

*rapes kris*

>Stop messing with Noelle, Kris!
>Mess with me instead...

>>713502786
A tiny thing I like about art of this is that everyone agrees the deed happens on the couch despite there being a perfectly good bed to use.

Really adds to the "carnal desire" aspect of it.

>>713503145
It's clear it wasn't his actual intention to depict a rape scene
Same reason why he added drum tracks after every Sans speech when Kris is trashing around on his bed to remove implications of Sans fucking Toriel and instead implications of Sans telling shitty jokes and Toriel laughing

threesome with Noelle and Ralsei, Susie can watch.

>>713503218
Susie is "The Dragon"
The normal route will be siding with her while weird route will have you side with Kris and Noelle
You'll only be able to stop Susie with Noelle powered up

>>713503145
>Toby is a fraud and probably put rape in the gaming without realizing it
thats literally what happened and why he patched the rose after a day. This is weird coming from a guy who called himself "eroge king" and never figured out the meaning behind withering rose

>>713503309
Those Does ain't right

>threads randomly bring up naruto here and there
>find this

>>713503138
She crushes and gushes over someone who bullied her supposed friend, forces that same crush to play on her dead sister guitar, shit talk Kris to Susie when she thinks they're not there, like she's a twofaced lying cunt with no loyalty to anyone, fucking Berdly is a better person than her

>>713503234
Nobody cares about Reddit Bros, tendie baby

>>713503065
It's the Batter from OFF.
>>713503218
>The best way to make Noelle stronger is by putting her though the ringer like forcing her to nearly kill one of Kris' classmates and making her lose her "innocence"
I'm so down with this plan, bros. All will work out in the end.

>>713502957
He made the scene even more rapey though.
Deflowering was removed due to people interpreting it literally.
Also, stop with the reddit spacing, you are embarrassing us.

Can't wait for Chapter 7 when the Soul summons LV 20 Frisk from a portal to kick Kris's miserable ASS

Berdly is probably the only character in the entire game who's mostly normal, and only because he's just autistic.

>>713503438
>ASS
Funny!

>>713503008
>The SOUL's face being a little embarrassed
lul

>>713503294
Yeah, the "thank you" thing
And just in general, especially in chapter 2, she's enjoying herself
The whole meek, nice-girl, dutiful daughter act...that's not Noelle. That's not who she actaully wants to be. She can be so much more.
>NOELLE WILL GET STRONGER

>>713503391
Especially not Toby Fox!

Noelle is just a teenage girl doing and saying stupid shit teenage girls do and say. She'll grow out of it, she's not satan or a cunt for having an awkward conversation about a friend that's grown distant.

>>713503425
Anon, you are replying to a shitposter.

>>713503218
Focusingthe story on Noelle would be a fucking retarded way to ruin the game. But luckily Ralsei reaction doesn't seem to be related to Noelle, so its more likely wither Ralsei or entire Darkner world getting deleted.

>>713503425
>interpreting it literally
what does that mean

Are all of seam's shop-items references to schizobosses?

Noelle deserved rape

>>713503138
EVERYONE LOVES SUSIE
KRIS LOVES SUSIE DESPITE GETTING BULLIED
NOELLE LOVES SUSIE FOR BEING A BULLY
BERDLY LOVES SUSIE FOR MAKING AN EPIC GAMER JOKE
RALSEI LOVE SUSISE FOR BEING A FAKE HERO
YOU WILL LOVE SUSIE
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>713503558
Reisen Udongein Inaba boss confirmed

>>713503584
based Susie, she can pee in my mouth

Susie is the fakest bully ever. All she's ever done is shit like tell temmie her stupid egg won't hatch. She threatened Kris and then instantly backed down and then by the end of the day she was basically her lapdog. It was all a front

>>713503584
susie is genuinely an insane black hole of writing to the point of basically warping any criticism such that it lands on other characters instead, usually because butthurt furfags feel like their mary sue dino is being stolen from them

>>713503558
>Sword from the Sword Route icon from the map

>>713503234
>>713503391
>>713503504
Super Smash Bros ruined an entire generation of men

>>713501437
There are two knights, Kris is probably the other knight. There are 6 people who could be knights
Dess
Kris
Carol
Asriel
Asgore
Rudy
Last two are long shots

>>713503654
I mean, that'd have to be referencing the knight fight, right?

>>713502371
The lore for that is sprinkled around right now.

But with the clues we have now, we can only really assume that whatever happened to Dess changed the entire Dreemur family and with Kris in particular, he stopped being himself(perhaps due to SOUL experiments?) and stopped really communicating with Noelle. Which is why when Kris speaks to her specifically in Ch4 on Snowgrave she starts speaking lile she is quite touched because she can tell its actually her childhoodfriend Kris is reaching out to her after years of leaving her alone and that that lame cuckbrain Berdley or other dull people.

>>713503729
Depends on how things turn out in the end. You've also got the girl puppet on the top shelf, that could potentially represent Dess.

>>713503558
Seam knows literally every Shadow Crystal moment
He's in on things more than you could ever imagine
Seam is on Asriel's desktop after Chapter 3 and MANTLE
>Neither Light nor Dark have a future for me

>>713501058
>>713501431
>Toby saying that he doesn't plan to reuse any music related to Homestuck in Deltarune.
This is confirmed when you try to play megalovania in chapter 4 and Toby himself commits vehicular manslaughter on Kris before you can play the 4th note of the song.

>>713503337
Nothing sexual physically happened in that scene but the rape imagery was 100% intentional. They're alone in Noelle's bedroom, Noelle inches closer to Kris for a kiss, things spiral out of control and Noelle weakly tries to deescalate but her pleas are ignored. Kris penetrates her flesh with a thorn, a flower scatters, there's a cut sprite of Noelle lying on the couch in a daze afterwards, Kris goes to the bathroom afterwards to clean up.
I refuse to believe that a writer could work on this scene long enough to present it to an audience without realizing what was implied. You know, I know, Toby knows. He just doesn't want the publisher to think an actual rape scene happened.

>>713503795
>You've also got the girl puppet on the top shelf, that could potentially represent Dess.
That's a characterfrom Temmie's game.

What if we forced Noelle to wear a bunny suit and go "pyon pyon atashi wa usagi-chan desu~" in front of everyone

>>713502886
He can cope and censor the scene however he wants but there is literally zero ways of interpreting it as anything but rape
>"nah dude it's not rape you just deflower her and plant your seed inside her"

>>713502886
It was a metaphor for the loss of innocence Toby went too hard on.

>>713503724
They're all Knights.

>>713502886
its just /v/ being as perverted as always. this board is for porn not video game discussion. for once /vg/ wins out thread quality wise.
>>713503083
this anon is correct

>>713503868
>there's a cut sprite of Noelle lying on the couch in a daze afterwards
Wasn't that just part of a cut cutscene where Susie games while Noelle rests on her lap?

>>713503584
kris liked susie before getting bullied and thought it was funny when she tried
noelle is a mess and her feelings don't make much sense to anyone
berdly is a shitter comedy character, him falling for susie because she made a game reference is in character for him
kris and susie are the first people ralsei met, of course he's going to force himself to like them, one because he has no one else to compare them too and second because he wants to avert the prophecy and susie's rebellious nature might be the key to that
i like susie because she's cute

We're 100% coming back here and climbing this fucker at some point

>>713503553
Some people thought that he actually unvirgined her. And I think it was the main reason for the rose change, since no one actually whined about the rapiness of the scene. Even the troon tumblr fanbase.
Actually, I saw a lot of troons on twitter whining about the rose removal.

KRISELLE DOMINATION. SORRY FOLKS, TOBY KNOWS WHAT THE REAL FANS (ME) WANT. THIS IS MY GAME NOW.

>>713502926
civit is basically the same as local with less nerdshit to tweak
please don't support civit they're actively trying to regulate shit and once they start with pizza they won't stop until anything but vanilla porn is verboten

>>713502886
Honestly that idiot Toby somehow didn't think we would interpret the scene with us putting the thorn ring on Noelle and then getting a scene with a rose falling petal by petal, NOT RAPE.

>>713503542
I hate to break this weird route exclusive dialogue to you. She's already been an important character anyway

>>713503868
>there's a cut sprite of Noelle lying on the couch in a daze afterwards
That was for the cut forced Suselle pandering scene

>>713503503
>NOELLE WILL GET STRONGER
I will allow this

>>713502886
It's metaphorical soul rape, you don't force Kris to whip out his cock and go to town on her but you directly violate her being which is probably worse

>>713503975
>Some people thought that he actually unvirgined her
if the scene is meant to be rapey why would that matter

>>713502886
You shove a thorn into her

>>713503996
He didn't think you were so autistic that domination and lost innocence metaphors would be taken as literally as "THE FLOWER LOST A PETAL.... HE DEFLOWERED HER.... HE RAPED HER!!!!!"

Gooners won, all metaphors about innocence and power struggles are sex apparently.

>>713502963
Toby has already mentioned that the main leitmotif of the weird route is freedom. Whose freedom and from whom—he didn’t specify. But I think it’s pretty obvious and clear to everyone. He’s not some prose genius who hides the truth in a layer of lies, buried in a sea of truth, submerged in an ocean of lies. Those are too complex schemes for him, and it’s obvious that the weird route is about the conflict between you, the player, and the characters in your mutual lack of freedom.

As a player, you want the freedom to do all sorts of nonsense, while the characters want freedom from your tyranny. This is a path where you become the main antagonist for them, and they become yours. On this path, you’ll gather the best equipment in the game and unlock the strongest skills, like a typical munchkin, but it’ll backfire in your face at the end when the characters rise against you and defeat you using the very power you gave them, not expecting they could break free from your control.

This route is about your rapid rise and the inevitable downfall of evil. It’s an evolution of the pacifist route ideas from Undertale, where the core message is that you should let the characters live their lives. That you should respect their needs, desires, and thoughts. That you shouldn’t turn into a tyrant just because you can.
Recall Flowey’s dialogue after the true pacifist run—well, the weird route is a development of those ideas. It’s about how your evil in the game isn’t something Toby approves of.

>>713502405
AI has free reign in this website

>>713503553
it's an allegory, it's not meant to imply that the act actually happened or the actions of the characters wouldn't make any damn sense

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>>713503951
I'll take the L and admit I didn't know that. I thought Noelle lying on the couch after the thorn scene was a little egregiously blatant even for cut content, cool to know it was some Suselle bullshit.