>[GOOD NEWS]
THE CEO OF SQUARE ENIX IS SAYING THAT FINAL FANTASY 14 IS DYING AND THAT PEOPLE ARE LEAVING XIV BECAUSE OF DAWNTRAIL

>>713582245 (OP)
Square Enix President Kiryu comments on the current state of FF14 at the shareholders' meeting: "We are aware that the quality is declining and fans are leaving the game"

>>713582245 (OP)
>hire a troon to market and star in your game
>game dies
It's common knowledge at this point.

>>713582245 (OP)
>1 year later
Too little too late

>>713582245 (OP)
if only i had bought one more fantasia...they'd have been able to hire a good dev...

Fuck off back to your containment general.

>>713582245 (OP)
hahahahhaha. These fuckers thought ff14 fans were like wow cucks? No bros. One bad fucking story and I fucking leave. Dawntrail was fucking bad with no redeeming quality. Unlike stormblood which had zenos. You gave us a tranny voice actor and killed the game. He must be out of his FUCKING mind if he thinks that 8.0 will somehow recover enough players. The days of ff14 having 1 million active subs are OVER.

Very organic thread again, love these. Keep making them.

>>713582245 (OP)
Why does SE always do this to their developers that get popular over a single game? They take them and load them down with a million other projects. They did it to Nomura too.

>paywalled aethercurrents
>timegated dungeons
>paywalled relics and weapon glows
kekaROOOOOOOOOO

after playing guild wars the sub to play system is retarded and i wont go back.

Good

>>713582245 (OP)
Eh I get it. Games can't stay popular forever. Especially if they're MMOs.
I still had fun playing Yoshi's game.

So what's Yoshida's excuse?

>>713582245 (OP)
SPHENEVESTORS
LEESTEN TU MEE

>he's folder dumping again

Unreal mental illness.

he's dumping his folder in an empty thread

I think what it's missing is more Wuk Lamat. They are the most talked about part of the expansion pack after all.

>>713582902
>>713582845
>>713582803
FFXIVly reminder

>>713582580
>likely
>has been
*obviously
*had been

>>713582245 (OP)
Can he explain why all their phone games flopped and EOS? Shouldn't those be free money?

>>713582245 (OP)
Honestly you anti-woke idiot storyfags can have this game. Revel in the trannies that live rent free in your head. The game will never be good again and its all the fault of ultimate raiders and storyfags

>>713583042
SE exists in a fantasy land where what normal people would call a success they call a flop and just toss it out.

ff14 was so bad that I literally unsubscribed in 7.1 and started to play fucking elder scroll online lmao

I've never enjoyed FF14 on a gameplay level, I merely tolerated it. I liked the music and the story and the characters, and now I have nothing

>>713582245 (OP)
To be clear, that isn't the ceo's twitter. It's just some nip liveblogging the response from the ceo acknowledging that FFXIV dawntroon is pozzed and failed.

8.0 is make or break. I'm already not really playing anymore but I would like 8.0 to change that. If not then sighohnaruh

>>713583378
lmao the AI adds stubble
even a robot can tell

wow wins again baby, WOW WINS AGAIN BABY eat shit ff tranies drumpf won again BAYHH BEEE

>>713582952
Deleting and redubbing sena would be the bare minimum, but yoshitpiss loves child mutilation.

>>713583224
mana my wife

did this nigga seriously make an xiv thread just so he can spam his folder?

But I was told finno fanno was the real mmo and worlowaro was dying?

>>713583042
Most SE mobile games lasted like 7+ years, that's not flopping. Most IP gachas barely even last a year let alone 2.

>>713582245 (OP)
Remember, 2 more years until the next expansion LOL. We are going to lose so many more players and those players will probably never return and feel scammed because of dawntrail. wowfags unironically fucking won

>>713583591
>ffxiv got their shadowlands moment
>wow only looking up with Midnight news coming soon
>wow already stole their housing idea and making it so everyone gets a house and isnt tied to being subbed for life
LMAO

>>713583574
I fucking hate modern wow but even I know XIV was always tiny compared to it. See >>713583042

>>713583591
>pre shadowbringers level of players
is this real? how are they not panicking and trying to right the ship?

>>713583518
He did
He does this every single day multiple times a day as well

>>713583639
I always said the difference between ff14 players and wow players are the fact that ff14 are normies willing to abandon their games. ff14 isn't that unique, what held it together for so long was the story and the emotional connection people had to the world and the npcs. There is a guy writing fucking shadowbringer fanfic comic on twitter. That isn't normal unless they like the game. All it took was 1 bad story expansion. I remember telling everyone that their priority should be making sure that the story is good, instead they let a literallyWHO retard write it.

Pure fucking karma.

>>713583785
they still post on twitter tho /shrug

>>713582245 (OP)
>>713582845
Yoshida was arrogant and too busy getting high off the smell of his own fanfest farts to notice the outsize shadow genshit began casting during coof lockdown. Now every chink and gook dev is coming out with a genshit clone and 14 is consigned to the dustbin of history.

>>713583042
Only the FF mobage flopped and died, DQW, DQT and RSRS made ridiculous amounts of money but they're now 6-7 years or so, there's a limit to how much blood you can squeeze from a rock

>>713583718
because they can't do anything. You can't stop the bleeding with small papers (patches). The next expansion is either late 2026 (doubt it) or early 2027..2 more fucking years basically. Do you know how many decent video games we will get by then? Like what if elder scroll 6 comes out or witcher 4. Yoshida is a retard for making the story bad and making years of fucking emotional trapping be erased by making the PLAYERS into side character for the most annoying fucking obnoxious bitch

>>713583639
>wow already stole their housing idea and making it so everyone gets a house and isnt tied to being subbed for life
lol SE is so fucked on this now. wow is making them look real bad, but they can't afford to change it since i'd be willing to bet a majority of the people still subbed would quit instantly if they knew they wouldn't lose their house

>>713583478
folderkun doesn't need help anon

rip chromie

>>713582245 (OP)
Fake news, Yoshida hasn't played his own game since fucking off to make XVI.

>>713582245 (OP)
And so it ends. In unceremonious silence,

>>713584168
you know what i hate about that? every fucking time i get SoS for trial roulette someone loses their shit during the cutscene.

>ITS EMET OMGGGGGGGGGG

like the sprout couldn't figure that out

Barry won

>>713582686
>>713582717
Based queen

>>713584168
can't find a better version of this on any video website
https://youtu.be/FkbsibbgmOA

>>713582245 (OP)
FFXIV Sisters..........................................

They need to get rid of Wuk Lamat. The experiment is an utter failure.
There were polls taken in every region the game is in, including China and Wuk Lamat was far and away the most hated character. The world has literally united in their disdain for this trash donut steel.

It's Sena's game now, bigots

if wuk lamat dies in 7.3 along with her gay cat brother and the stupid baby gulool. i will resub

>>713582525
How do reviews even work for a subscription model game anyway, are there really a shit ton of people actually editing their reviews based on their most recent thoughts?

>>713584585
>alright boys today we're gonna do Gordias Savage ilvl synced the right way
>proceeds to get his shit pushed in for nearly 8 hours to the point where he practically has a meltdown live on stream
>suddenly has little interest in playing anymore, takes a "break" at the worst possible point
>quits

wait, I havent kept up, is FF14's storyline, like, actually finished?

>>713584787
One finished last expansion they are starting a new one except the new one has started off on a very bad foot.

>>713582620
I left right after I finished endwalker. I saw that they were changing breast tribes to tribal quests and bounced. Why couldn't you all have been as smart as me?

cancel all future ffxiv development and work on a new final fantasy mmo with nice graphics and a proper anticheat (to deter freaks). people would soiface and it would sell tons even if it sucks balls

>>713584787
the main story ended in 6.0 last expansion. the new story they started afterwards was some of the most unbelievable garbage I’ve ever played through

>>713584787
"chapter 1" is over
turns out, all they ever had was chapter 1

>>713584851
Oh they changed that again. It is now "Allied Society"

>>713584787
It was finished the moment they hired Kate's pet whiteboi instead of an actual latina

https://youtu.be/kye324j2vEc

I abandon fucking world of warcraft, bc of the trannies and bad story. you think I wouldn't abandon a game i started 5 years ago? foolish bug man

>People play the game for the story
>Autists whine about having to do stuff with other people in a game marketed as a "MMORPG"
>Make a shitty story
>Add NPC's so you don't have to interact with anyone

Gee I wonder why it's failing.

>>713584932
Kek it was funny watching actual Latinos calling that accent obviously fake and insulting and being called transphobes and racists

People aren't coming back unless 8.0 is Shadowbringers tier good which won't happen.

>>713584998
what did ya stop for lil buddy?

>>713584787
might as well have ended in 6.0. In fact if you were one of those who quit in 6.0, you probably had a happy ending with the game

>>713584779
I never followed that. I assume the other 7 people he played with all knew Gordias? What did they wipe at?

>>713584978
Leftists and tankies are more breathtakingly racist than anyone else, they'll screech on Twitter about Drumpf bad while calling brownoids spics and wetbacks straight to their faces.

My barometer for when the game is actually in danger is when they break the glass on pic related.

>>713582525
You're the one that made the thread you stupid fucking faggot.
Seek help.

>>713584950
FUCK YOU! you WILL consume tranny SLOP. You think you can just LEAVE? We will follow you were ever you go bitch. Pick up the next game, do it, well put tranny slop in it. Think we wont? jsut watch.
>muh steller blade
just wait for the sequel motherfucker, boom, black boyfriend.

Dawntrail's story wasn't just bad, it was infantile. A little kids story about sheltered princess collecting pokemon badges

>>713585048
Im sure shes "ace" by choice lmao

Probably not even the Japs want her crusty pussy

>>713584851
because I thought it was a meaningless change. How wrong I was.

>>713585127
Zenos was basically the XIV version of him already

>>713585178
That was the most egregious part. It lost all its bite. Normally stories like that in this game have some weird or dark shit under the surface but Dawntrail had none of that.

>>713584774
That's pretty much what happens all the time. The cracks began to show in 6.1 and now everyone unsubbed and quit

>>713582245 (OP)
>WE MUST SQUEEZE YOSHIP HARDER
they just don't get it.

>>713585127
they are saving it to shill ff7r last part, i could see it happening next expansion as another trial series or savage tier

>>713582245 (OP)
Fire Yoshi, sure, but the CEO should probably clean house on his own board first.

I hate dawntrail because I'm not the main character. And I hate trannies.

>>713585314
Yoshi said he won't do any sort of FF7 collab until the Remake games were complete. Granted he says bullshit all the time he goes back on.

>>713585342
i would def Mika

>>713585342
How the fuck do these creatures infest every level of these companies?!

>>713582330
>>1 year later
>Too little too late
Exactly. Especially after trying to gaslight us that the problem was the playerbase feeling there was not enough Scions shit and that the playerbase was being mean to the tranny.
Fuck off with that shit.
Turning around a year later and going "oh no, you were actually right" means nothing if you've been a cunt shitting on us until now.

I find it hideously unprofessional when someone I buy something from starts complaining about their finances to me.

>>713585392
like shit, it smells

>>713585392
Hey, Donte el Exterminador de Demonios doesn't deserve to be lumped with the rest of those fags. At least he has an awesome Spanish dub.

>>713584974
DT is currently failing, despite them adding a absolute shitload of multiplayer content to the game in that expansion. It is just that the content that they add only appeals to a very small niche of the playerpool.

I miss thread IP counters.

>>713582245 (OP)
Why the fuck did they not keep Golden Legacy as the name
It sounds cooler than Dawntrail
why the fuck do they keep using oneword titles? Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers, Endwalker, and Dawntrail?
A Realm Reborn was the peak

I'll resub in 8.0 but only if they retcon or redub Wuk. Until then I'll be a tankchad in BPSR

https://youtu.be/XeRSRqJkp1g

>>713585505
>appeals to a very small niche of the playerpool.
OC can be played by anyone and doesn't need anything specific.
It's not niche at all except perhaps forked tower which is a raid.

>>713582752
They give their developers rope to hang themselves. Nomura and Yoshi-P are the ones who want to load a million other projects rather than concentrate on the projects that made them big. A more competent company would have CEOs that dropkick these devs like how Capcom treated their old legends.

i dont care

>>713583928
>Like what if elder scroll 6 comes out or witcher 4
You need to go back

>>713585505
That's also because the content is good but they have been fumbling it in weird ways to where nobody cares about it.
They also seem to have forgotten that casual players boosted this game and carried it with all the new content.

>>713585578
>Except for Forked Tower

This is one example of my point. Why would anyone give a shit about grinding out the levels and jobs in OC when most people will never be able to do Forked Tower because it was designed for a small niche of people? It is the captstone of the entire zone and they fucked it up.

Don't care about story, raids and trials have been top tier so far and doing forked tower early was almost as fun as DRS, but it has to be knocked down a bit for them being retarded with how you enter it. Looking foward to DD and the savage 99 boss.

>>713585568
>chink mobile rework of a failed game
that's sad even as a joke

>>713584880
>>713584879
>>713585040
Man that's wild, I just started reading a recap of the story because I was about to hop in and finish ||bloodstorm||

>>713585724
China is the only place that makes successful mobile games these days the bugs really eat it up

>>713585662
>Why would anyone give a shit about grinding out the levels and jobs in OC
Because it's fun and it will help you out when the next OC front comes out.

>>713585724
>chink mobile rework of a failed game

>>713585578
7.2 would be lauded by the playerbase if they didn't fumble the raid. The raid is the place where people go to use their new skills and gear and where you can but a nice bow on the first zone, gameplay wise. Locking it behind a retarded entrance mechanism, making it absolutely awful to prog and basically making a discord group mandatory ruins the entire zone experience. THEN going onto a LiveLetter and saying "We prioritised the savage version because resources are sparse" makes it even worse.

>>713585568
>Available on mobile.

Fuck off.

>>713585048
Wokeshit is just the modern version of Nintendo and Square censoring FF games decades ago

>>713585865
>Game about being social and forming groups
>NOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE SOCIAL
Thats on you.

everyone should've seen the writing on the wall after the useless graphics update
>we are alienating half of the player base to make things slightly better

>half the thread is just 1 anon posting screencaps
/vg/ thread is lookinmg more appealing now
yes, even with all the avatarposting they still talk about the game

>>713585898
>>713585724
>>713582803
KEKKKKKKKKK

>>713585943
So what, even if I don't mind being social, OC is dedicated casual content. Making it so hard is unappealing to 90% of the playerbase. Why are you savage raider always so defensive when people point out that the majority does not enjoy that content? Are you afraid things could get taken away from you?

>>713582678
Go back to your cuck shed snoyfaggot!

>>713582620
>One bad fucking story and I fucking leave.
So you left several years ago?

>>713582717
Her shitting on Yoshida and CBU3 relentlessly has been pretty good character growth

>>713585560
Anon, all of those are literally two words.

>>713586060
>entirely optional content
>NOOO IT ALL HAS TO BE FOR CASUALS
You guys act like it's savage tier but once you get +1 on the gear and jobs maxed it's as easy as an alliance raid.
Once again it's just retarded zoomer faggots thinking they need everything within one clear timer.

>banned from national tv for begging for resubs
>soon to be banned from being alive
Will yoshitpiss cry onstage again when his pet cancerkike croaks?

I hope you guys realize wuk is gonna show up for the arcadion

>>713585568
SE need to double down on Wuk. All they need is to figure out how to make people like Wuk and then they're golden.

>>713586045
xivniggers can't help but embarrass themselves

>>713583979
I'm Mina and I like swallow and suck fat cocks, just thought you should know

>>713586216
Your shit is all retarded if you could not contextualize the post

>>713584801
>steam charts

>>713586330
I hope so

>>713585392
what's wrong with middle left?

Jesus the nips are just tearing into yoshi and the 14 team. lol

https://x.com/yuzz__/status/1937701667526574406/quotes

Only a few years ago people were acting like XIV was going to overtake WoW.

>>713586258
>You guys act like it's savage tier but once you get +1 on the gear and jobs maxed it's as easy as an alliance raid.
That is blatantly false, it is significantly harder than an alliance raid. This is Chaotic all over again, the encounter designer just doesn't get the majority of the playerbase and takes faggots like Arthars as baseline for content.

>>713585392
In retrospect Donte just being the director's self-insert isn't that egregious compared to what came after.

>>713586604
>That is blatantly false, it is significantly harder than an alliance raid.
Maybe if you still die on normal raids and are a shitter lmao
Once you get your jobs up and gear it just feels like any other alliance raid (That isn't crystal tower)

>>713586573
u think i can fucking read this?

>>713586576
>Only a few years ago people were acting like XIV was going to overtake WoW.
because blizzard was tanking
then MS bought them

>>713582245 (OP)
>"you will enjoy the game for the next decade"
>OMG HE SAID IT'S DEAD AND SERVERS SHUT DOWN IN 20 MINUTES
Back to first grade for you. Relearn to read

>>713586573
>11 tweets
Yea, it's a flood.

>>713586530
>ffxi mobile died
>ffxiv mobile lives on
pain

>>713586604
>This is Chaotic all over again, the encounter designer just doesn't get the majority of the playerbase and takes faggots like Arthars as baseline for content.
I don't even think YOU get the majority of the playerbase. Most people were crying everything in Endwalker was piss easy. It's another case of "I think I know what the playerbase needs but I don't"

>>713586573
>Japanese players are dooming and shitting on Yoshida harder than Western players ever will
k i n o

>>713583639
people that play wow to this day, they are subbed for life, you, they are not leaving any time soon.

>resub for oc
>get relic in 3 days of casual play
>forked towers retarded entrance system
>
welp, is this it?

>>713586850
don't like your FATEs in instances content?

>>713586573
way ahead of you japbro

>>713586772
This is the clear rate of Chaotic: No entrance difficulties and yet 7%.
FT has 400 clears.

I am fairly certain the endless catering to savage raiders in DT is not helping the game.

>>713582245 (OP)
>Also, producer Yoshida is doing several jobs at the same time, and some people think he is too busy to concentrate on Final Fantasy 14, but I believe that the work he is currently doing at the same time will definitely be useful as experience for Final Fantasy 14.

So the game is in trouble but instead of being laser focused the Producer and Director of the game is still busy off on other games? What a bunch of retards Square Enix are, people aren't going to sit around with their thumbs up their asses waiting for that experience Yoshida is gaining from working on other games to somehow manifest itself. They'll leave because they see the game is directionless and they are leaving.

>>713583979
Japan has lost the plot

>>713586930
>They'll leave because they see the game is directionless and they are leaving.
Not fast enough, apparently.

>>713586941
No they just caught sickness from the West

>>713582620
I respect the FFXIV fanbase for sticking to their guns and jumping ship in the mass numbers they have been. Speak with your wallets people, it actually works.

>>713586258
Too much of the recent shit has been focused on tranny savage raiders. Despite the high amounts of faggotry in the game, the majority of players were not savage raiders. This might change now that droves of people are unsubbing, but I played since ARR and rarely ever did savage. It simply takes too much time and most of my friends didn't want to do it. The content has limited appeal to most players. It's absolute retardation to focus resources on something at most 10% of the playerbase does (and that's being generous). The game was lacking good content for normal people and now this expansion pushed that to the fullest they can. This is why so many left. It's why the game will likely go into maintenance mode from here on out as I don't feel like they want to save it.

I'll still stand by what I said for years now. Endwalker should have been the end. There's no reason to keep dragging the game out. If they weren't stupid, they would have made a new MMO with an engine that isn't shit. Now they're fucked because their MMO is dying AND they don't have a new one in the works.

That being said, I'd still fuck the shit out of Ryne

>>713586928
24 man savage was such a terrible idea. its hard enough to find 7 randos that aren't paint eating retards even for extremes

This feels like sabotage it's so inept

>>713582245 (OP)
The Japs have seen this and aren't happy, almost 1000 comments just on this subject alone.
https://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/62449496.html

>>713586165
Did her wow career die again? Why is she obsessed with XIV now? I thought she quit. Is she outing herself as a typical grifter?

>>713586759
Yes it's a flood
>>713587112

I haven't even looked at 2chn yet, give me a moment.

>>713587112
kek. It's so fucking over. Even the Japanese are shilling genshin now

>>713587129
>why is an mmo youtuber talking about ffxiv when there is relevant news
hurr durr

If they introduced dating content (effort version), player numbers would go up again and a lot of grievances would be forgiven. I am dead serious, it would remedy a lot of issues the game currently has.

>>713587230
>now
They've been shilling it since it released, places like Akihabara are covered with Hoyo shit marketing

>>713587271
Anyone can put ads up in Akihabara, it just costs money.
But getting someone to willingly shill for chinese gacha is another

>>713587327
They're very popular in Japan. I'm not a fan myself but I don't know why you find it hard to believe. They're even starting to outsource gacha games like the Persona one to China because the Chinese ones do better.

>>713586930
After FF16 I don't know how he is involved with producing anything

>>713582245 (OP)
I mean first it was Yoshida admitting that they couldn't add in a Normal difficult for the Fork Tower in Occult Crescent because of 'Cost'. Now it's the CEO himself admitting he knows the quality of Dawntrail (Golden Legancy) is bad and in not so many words they became complacent, taking for granted the FFXIV subscription base while they took that money and dev resources to work on other games.

>>713587163
11 tweets isn't a flood. I don't know if 1000 comments is a flood. /xivg/ can fill up 1000 posts in just a few hours on a normal day.

>>713587414
If 8.0 flops like Dawntrail that will be the end of his career at Square Enix.
Remember they got rid of Sakaguchi and other Directors for far less. Yoshida keeps bringing up the legacy of resurrecting FF14 with 2.0 because he knows that's the only thing which is keeping his ass in his job, he has to keep replacing that story as he has nothing new to tell.

>>713587557
>/xivg/ poster
You need to go back

>>713587596
>for far less
Sakaguchi's shitty movie not only bankrupted the company but also put their merger with Enix (which was happening before they went bankrupt) in jeopardy. Nothing Yoshi has done even comes close.

>>713587642

>>713587681
do you know how fucked square is if ff14 goes under? it has been keeping their company alive for 10 years. while they shit out trash like forspoken

>>713587381
Oh I know how much Chinese gacha is beating Japanese gacha. They're not even close to comparison.
The shilling just seemed out of place on a mmo forum, thats all.

>>713582245 (OP)
>https://x.com/yuzz__/status/1937701667526574406/quotes
>enjoy the game after 8.0
.... please dont tell me they are saving the next ultimate until then because they just want to move to the next expansion

Where can I find a tank like this?

>>713587681
If he fucks up FF14 it's no exaggeration to say that will be the end of Square Enix, it is 60% of the company annual revenue.
Which is why it's so absolutely unbelievable they would neglect and treat their golden goose of a game and subscriber base so poorly.

>>713582317
People stop playing games all the time, not sure why you think any MMO should/would somehow be impervious to time. ESPECIALLY in the age of Roblox being the world's most popular game because younger gamers want easily consumed bite-sized content with zero investment.

>they decide to just skip .5 and go right to 8.0

odds?

>>713587776
she starred in this expansion

>>713587851
0

>>713587557

>half a year
>still no news about fantest 2025
They are going to push the expansion, right?

>>713587681
XIV going under will clearly destroy square. The only thing they really have left is their shitty mobile slop and maybe the next dragon quest and nier game which are both far off

lets face it, yoshida doing a terrible job with yawnfail and XVI pretty much set the company to a future of doom. He was given an entire WoW exodus and still failed. He clearly will destroy the company

no wonder sakaguchi loves him so much

>>713587112

>>713587851
I have heard a rumour, now it's just a rumour and of course no 'source' but the rumour is that 8.0 will be delayed because of the situation with Dawntrail that the next expansion won't release until March 2027 at the earliest.

>>713587928
in the interest of cost™ and quality™ the next expansion has been delayed by 6 months

>>713587980
>the next expansion won't release until March 2027
this would legitimately kill the game

i stopped playing because 90% of the players on oce are american erpers and i could never find a group for anything

>>713588006
rushing another half-assed expansion like DT would be just as bad
a delay could work if what they bring to the table is big enough like a full backend rework

>>713583979
You can really tell that Toshiyuki threw this together in two minutes so he could go back to drawing anything else

>>713588071
DT wasn't half assed. it was whole assed full of bad decisions

>>713588071
>wow is going to completely mog ff14s housing system in their next expansion
>ff14 is literally incapable of improving the glamour system to 1/2 as good as WoW
When do they just call it quits and make FF18 into the next MMO?

>>713588071
I thought that during the drought months of Dawntrail and convinced myself that the way during those years of no content would be worth it because Dawntrail would be a banger, then Dawntrail launched...

>>713587112
Does this mean we will reinvest some of the money XIV makes into the game?

I honestly dont know how people think the game is bad now. Is exactly the same formula they had been using since 2.0 and I am having the same fun as always
>but the story and wuk
why would something that cares like 1% of all my playing time affect my enjoyment? I just dont get it

>>713582245 (OP)
This soulless suit who approved pride colors on their X account as well as the wokification of FFT isn't going to be the one to save SE. He's going to punch another ten giant holes in the ship.

Which is especially bad right now, because they're short on time. The next round of games need to hit. They're probably screwed.

>>713588201
>during those years of no content would be worth it because Dawntrail would be a banger
and we got the countent that people were bitching arounf back in endwalker
whats the problem now?

>>713583918

>write a whole ass post about how this rarely happens
>immediately replies with that exact situation
Also who the fuck swifties their Ruby? Like you have infinite mobility before you're forced to stand still for two casts, setup shop where you need to, pretend to be (old) BLM for like 5.5s.

>>713583785

BRD doesn't have proc based shit, ohhhhh here's you're like 85% proc chance on Mage's Ballad and Repetoire, fuck outta here, they should have just removed that retard high proc and made it guaranteed at this point.
>>713583718
I AM THE ONE WHO RAISES, I AM THE ONE WHO LB'S THE WALL TO TALL PACK IN THE DUNGEON, I MADE YOUR MOM ADDLED, AND I AM THE <SIEGE LIEGE> MOTHER FUCKER! Can't speak for the other useless fucking SMNs though.

>>713588254
i was on board with the '7.2 is going to save the game' till they mishandled OC in such a way it almost feels intentional

>>713588254
Bait?

>>713588339
>mishandled OC
????
the place is always full

>>713588181
A new MMO will only work if there is someone else in charge. They had carte-blanche for 16 and it is full of the same lazy design and cut corners as 14, this team is incapable of breaking the mold they've built for themselves.
Nobody wants a FF14 ver.1.5.

>>713588313
That it took 4 years of waiting before Occult Crescent and Dawntrail itself was not worth the wait at all, it was shit.
OC is also not introducing anything new I've already played Eureka and Bojza I did not want a worse version of Eureka I wanted them to introduce something fun and try to experiment with new ideas new gimmicks something that would motivate me to grind and play. It's so utterly boring.
How can you see what they've delivered and call it entertainment?
That's fair if you like doing the same thing again and again, but that's not living that's existing.

game died when the ancients did

>>713582245 (OP)
>Yoshida is doing several jobs at the same time, and some people think he is too busy to concentrate on FF14, but I believe the work he is currently doing at the same time will definitely be useful as experience for FF14.
This is the exact fucking line they told us when they revealed development for FF16 and that when they were finished with FF16 the team would return to FF14 and bring all that experience to our game, now they're saying it again I'm supposed to wait around for them to work on other games and bring that experience back like they didn't do with FF16?
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

>>713588640
>would return to FF14 and bring all that experience to our game
16 had all the worst elements of 14 so clearly they brought that to DT

>>713588674
Harsh but true.

memes aside only she can save the story of this game
content wise we are great

>>713582636
This one waa odd, because the interviewer an open-ended question about "the criticisms" that Dawntrail received. And he brings up the Wuk Lumat's english VA, unprompted. The game had several bigger issues than that

Like how you and the main cast are sidelined through every plot point because western cultural and sensitivity readers told them it would be white saviorism for any foreigner to solve any of the nation's problems

I don't know why there is so much pushback on the idea of replacing Yoshida.
Once upon a time people would have laughed at the idea of replacing motherfucking Tanaka, the father of FF11, with some literal who that had only developed arcade spinoffs.

>>713588787
yoship is not the problem
the problem is that they gave him other shit to work with

>>713588787
I've been calling for him to step down since 6.2.

OC fucking sucks, Yeah I think I'm done, everyone's jumping ship and I told myself I'd quit when it would happen although its mot a 100% dead game im just sick of it. The best thing that DT brought was encounter design but thats where the positives stop for me personally. Either rehabilitate the golden goose or its dead.

>>713582245 (OP)
Just let it die a dignified death. The main story arc wrapped up with endwalker. Just let it go. Everything dies. Even MMOs. Keep it online for the diehard fans but the harder you try to give it a comeback the harder you’ll fail. Maybe it’ll get a natural comeback but that can’t and won’t be intentional. Nothing happens like that, in the history of man. Shadowbringers through early endwalker was a fluke in time, a beautiful soulful fluke. It had its time. Nothing will beat the dying gasp or seat of sacrifice. Stop trying to hold on. Stop trying to recreate whatever that magic was. You can’t. It had its prime. Let it die. Just let it die man. Just let go. Fuck…

>>713582245 (OP)
>just wait till 8.0
>please stay subbed and check out the paypig store
Nah.

>>713588924
t. anon just saw a family member die

>>713588924
t. shadowbaby

>>713587112
>75
>Was FF16 really that bad?
>I think they put all their effort into the graphics and advertising, but the creators' skills and sense were so low that it ended up being a dud.
>If the creators don't change, no matter how much time or budget you spend, that won't change.

>363
>It's originally a dark fantasy. As for what I didn't like, the summoned beast battles were too long and tedious for me. There was also a small amount of BL elements. The rest was about average.
>However, since there was already a lot of criticism going on about political correctness at the time, there were many people who complained that there were simply no black people in the game, or that it was discrimination, but there's no way they could have black people in a game that has slavery in it

>427
>I don't mean to criticize homosexuality, but I don't need close-ups of homosexual kissing and flirting.
>Sorry but it was gross to me as a normal player so I skipped it.

lmao

>>713585374
People let themselves be brainwashed by hallmark card bullshit and welcomed the vipers into the nest with open arms.

You CAN judge a book by its cover. It's ALWAYS the people you'd most expect. The -ists and the -phobes are people with pattern recognition and functioning brains. If you're kind to the scorpion, expect to be stung. I think that there's something to the idea that much of our stock of strong, masculine men were killed in the banker wars of the first half of the last century.

>>713588924
I legit just want another MMO or something like an MMO lite from them. Crystal Chronicles is the best universe to craft an MMO from anyway

>>713585943
>Game about being social and forming groups
I sincerely hope you're not talking about XIV.

>SE acknowledges the facts that Yoshida kept ignoring
Yoshida is gonna be on a tight leash with 8.0+, ain't he?

>>713582803
Looks like gacha stores

>Announces EW has to be delayed
>Expected a lynching
>Was given the benefit of the doubt instead
>EW was good until the Post MSQ
>Started hyping up DT
>Players were understandably excited
>Wuk gets introduced at the end of EW
>Is immediately hated
>Yoshida doubles down and has most of the content he was hyping for Krile cut
>DT comes out
>It's hated by majority of the playerbase
>Even the Japs hate it
>Only ones that like it are the semi-vocal trannies and fags
>Yoshida shits on everyone except the fags praising DT
>Loses all good faith
>Sub numbers drop and he blames the players for being bigots
>Occult Crescent finally drops
>It's fine until leeches realise they can sneak into Forked Tower groups for 'easy carries'
>This causes a halt in progression due to the supposedly 'casual' content requiring more coordination than a Savage raid along with it needing a resource to even be able to get in
>Players want a seperate que for it like how Bozja did
>Yoshida scoffs and says no
>Players really start giving him shit
>Yoshida rushes a letter from the producer to cry about how people are mean to him and how it's not his fault
What's next for this retard?

>>713588640
Yoshida wants to work on another MMO before he retires. So what likely happened is that he pulled the XVI team onto a new MMO project and doesn't care about XIV anymore.

>>713582245 (OP)
Told you fucking niggers for YEARS that the ball was dropped as soon as FF16 entered the picture. They straight up admit that yoshit PISS is stretched too thin working on other games. Keep him shackled to ff14 or let him go. MMO is a live service, it requires someone at the helm that is PASSIONATE and PRESENT and will dedicate all their time and energy into making it better - just like the way it used to be before the shift happened around mid to late Shadowbringers

>>713589587
weeelllllllllllllllllllllll.......
it's not his fault right?
let me ask my manager

>>713589579
Imagine being so mindbroken by a few Lalafell pics that you parrot what one of the local Lalafags said in previous threads whenever he turns up.

>>713589579
He needs to step down. He needs to pass the torch to someone that has genuine passion for this game and will dedicate themselves to it full-time.

>>713589579
retirement

>>713589376
It used to be that up till about shadowbringers when the anti social retards came

>>713589587
Yeah, you can tell with his lack of enthusiasm with the LLs mid ShB that he was done with XIV because he was allowed to make XVI.. and then they put him right back on XIV after XVI flopped.

>>713589579
Honestly? he should

>>713589579
>It's fine until leeches realise they can sneak into Forked Tower groups for 'easy carries'
Christ you savage people are fucking brain dead

>>713589721
Bring him back.

I think it's time we all apologize to stormblood

>>713589579
I think they need to bring my boy Yoshida back!

>>713589815
Stormblood was also shit, stop trying to rewrite history

>>713589579
>EW was good until the Post MSQ
No, Labyrinthos 2nd half existed

>>713588640
this

>>713589579
Why did they hate it?

>The japanese players main takeaway from this is that 7.X is dead and they should wait for 8.0

It's looking fucking grim isn't it.

>>713589874
Its you shadowniggers that bandwagoned during covid and the wow exodus that rewrote history. Stormblood was kino and was always kino

i played endwalker until i reached the end of 6.0 msq, i wont play any more until they patch out the tranny

>>713582245 (OP)
Honestly pretty insane to read. The CEO is straight up saying “the director is too busy to do his job so just give up on dawntrail and come back for 8.0”

>>713589754
I'll have you know I'm an antisocial retard playing since 3.0.

>>713590032
thanks bud we needed that

>>713590032
you gotta vary your md5s to be a true nuisance spammerbro

>>713589815
SB was always good. Lyse was at least fuckable, she was nowhere near as bad as Wuk. XIV genuinely will not recover until they retcon and redub Wuk.

What huge project is yoshit piss working on that he had to move away from XIV again? He already was working on XVI, wtf else is there for him to do? (He is not working on FFT)

>>713589970
How is working on a bunch of remakes going to be "useful experience" for 14?

total xivnigger death

>>713589630
This man has had an insane amount of botox and filler. Probably veneers too. Picrel is him in 2013...compare to quoted pic

>>713590137
FF17 and this time it'll be copy/paste Souls slop combat with 5 hours of gameplay, 30 hours of cutscenes, MMO tier sidequests, and even less RPG mechanics than FF16

>>713590137
Him and CBU3 are already slaving away pointlessly on FF17. It's an Ishikawa-written Genshin clone that'll release a decade too late, and EOS in less than 3 weeks.

>>713590167
I can't believe we lost her to worlo. I miss her so much bros...

>>713590157
>Worked on the game for over 10 years now
>Still needs "more experience"

Nice to know the shareholders don't have confidence in Yoshida anymore.

>>713590167
Why do people watch this foid? Is seeing a woman reacting to people reacting to things that appealing?
Shes like solely to blame for why the community is so reflexively negative about everything. Walled cunt.

>>713582245 (OP)
>ceoofsquareenixadmitdawntrailisbad.png
>>713589970
>ceoofsquareenixadmitdawntrailisbad.png
Why would you post this again?

>no need to do yellow quests aside from lore
>entire leveling process is centered around blasting through daily roulletes for gorillion xp
>no need to ever group up in the overworld for a quest
>only threat in the overworld are lvl 12 turtles outside Uldah when you start
>no need for crafting anything not current raid tier because you level so fast you outlevel your gear, sometimes in minutes
>can teleport everywhere
XIV was never an mmo (massive multiplayer online game).

>>713590289
watching this hag shit all over the hack jap gives me a boner, yes

>>713590289
Your anger is misguided. She was one of the leaders of Yoshida's cult for a decade, back before the SHB boom when no one ever heard of this game. She only needed breadcrumbs, but SE was too incompetent to even give that. Blame them for dropping the ball.

>>713582686
>>713582717
>Fuck trannies i'm leaving ff
>Play wow
The asbolute state of "based egirl" KEK

>>713590337
To take up useless space in 4chans servers

>>713589970
I appreciate the honesty. If the CEO himself tells you to fuck off then there's plenty of other multiplayer weebshit now to play instead

We had a good run, but it's time to go back bros...

Yoshi is an MMO guy.
That's his passion.
That's where all of his ideas are.
That's where he's an expert.
He's not a big fan of mainline Final Fantasy.

If SE leadership were half way competent (LMAO), one conversation with Yoshi would have made them realize that he needs to be their MMO guy and nothing else. If he's working on anything outside of FFXIV, it should be their next MMO.

>>713582320
>It's common knowledge at this point.
>meanwhile, at gamedev headquarters

>>713587748
most likely they're being paid by the chink to do it. Everything that they do is fake

>>713590379
I dont care i want to see Yoshida pin her down and give her 3rd degree burns on her face with his radioactive jap farts

>>713582245 (OP)
>The development team will do everything in their power to make sure you enjoy the game after 8.0.
This wording feels like 8.0 is the end.

>>713589579
For once I agree with a post on this website

>>713582245 (OP)
are they finally going to let this franchise sleep for at least a decade and make a new ip

>>713582245 (OP)
>ceo admits in other tweets that they also fucked up with XVI and got btfo by E33
Suspiciously refreshing honesty. Or is it just that he doesn't want to get sued by shareholders?

>>713589721
you need to stop parroting this

>>713582245 (OP)
>Ff14 will die
So what are you going to do with your lives now?

>>713590920
Play FFXI I suppose. I still wanna do the big quest to catch all the fish in game for the glowy fishing rod with the server number on it.

>>713586928
God damn, did they secretly hire some ex-WoW dev who has been feeding them these beyond retarded ideas or something?

>>713589451
>gets bigger responsibilities for making money
>suddenly as soon as he gets new responsibilities he completely fucks it all up, barely succeeds on his ff16 project, and torches ff14 to such a degree its hemorrhaging players and destroying all community goodwill, because he decided to follow western gaijin politics, even the japanese are angry.
If it were a different time they might have made him commit seppuku.

>>713590887
>SE releases turn based games
>People ignore those
Sad

Do they want to buy out square Enix? Why so much obsession around this company?

>>713591053
Make good turn based games instead?

Its dying? good

>>713589579
desecrate FFtactics

>>713582752

they re retardedly incompetent at management and think their retarded japanese workdrone mindset can carry that

>>713591163
What did the watermelon mean again? It was shorthand for standing with Palestine right?

>>713591053
People ignore Dragon Quest?

They just need to not be banished to the realm of low budget titles. That's what killed Japanese-style gaming from 2005-2015 or so, and SE still hasn't caught up. Even though Nier Automata is used as one of the main examples of how Japanese-style games sell better than games that are made for Japan's false perception of western audiences.

I still find funny that event at its lowest FFXIV still got higer playerbase than WoW

>>713586928
Everyone's clearing fork now, people are just crybabies that they can't finish all the content day 1.

>>713591053
The first Octopath sold like over 2million on Switch alone and 3million total, though that was with Nintendo publishing it in the west because Square seemingly try and sabotage all their smaller releases to make AAA FF look good.

>>713591139
Those are good turn based games, you outragebait
Reality is people only care about FF

>>713590987
nope yoshi was copy his idols he even gets mad if you trash current wow

Im one of the biggest yoshit piss haters but i gotta admit i feel bad that the company has made him a slave of working on other huge games along with FFXIV. Idk why he doesnt just threaten them that he will leave unless he can only work on XIV

>>713591269
Ok, so why didn't it sell 15 millions like BG3?

>>713591243
with late night discord

>>713591243
>literally less than 2% clear rate is so bad they have to comment on the issue in the live letter
>7% Chaotic is acceptable
So, is it safe to say they aim for a 5% clear rate for their content, everything above that is a rousing success?

>>713591243
>everyone
Zamn, 14 only has 3736 players. Rest in piss

>>713591323
>comparing a 2d turn pase rpg with a massive fucking dungeons and dragon simulator
are you retarded?

>>713591163
>Guy who is heavily groomed into presenting as female is trans
Ah of course.

>>713591296
So turn based fags just want FF? Since exp33 is the closest to a FF game

>>713585592
The impression that I got was that Yoshi-P was being dragged away from FFXIV by the company. He obviously didn't consider it an honor to be working on FFXVI, considering that he said that "JRPG" is a slur. And he supposedly didn't like being on the board.

He obviously loves MMOs and is passionate about MMOs and the MMO community.

>>713591323
because BG3 was hyped to hell and back and to hell again. the amount of glazing that game received was truly unjustified

>>713591379
>>713591458
So you only care about graphics lmao

>>713591243
I didn't think it was that bad... why are they making content for such a small portion of the playerbase? Shouldn't the Foray be for everyone?

>>713582245 (OP)
>Wuk'Lamat literally fucking killed the game.
Kate on fucking suicide watch, She will be fucking fired from the company in secret.

>>713582245 (OP)
>make decade long story arc
>characters have beaten ultimate God
>go from build up of a decade to a complete standstill to start new arch
>this is already a playerbase killer, many people stuck around to finish the fight
>people who started at 18 are 30 now
>muh cool anime isnt cool at 30
>new player base knows it needs to play through a decade of content to keep up
Should've just said this is the end and make a new mmo from scratch

>>713591487
>Mogs yoshitshit
>Mogs totk
Based

>krile comes with us to meracydia and becomes an alcoholic on abbo goon wine
>existing just long enough to repeatedly get kicked in the cunt and have all your potential plot points stolen by a lizard child
Being Krile is suffering.

>>713591513
Just fired isn't nearly enough. CBU3 problems require kyoani solutions

Dawntrail killed the game. No matter how glorious the next expansion, knowing you have to go through DT to reach it becomes a wall for everyone who didn't already play it

>>713591243
how is this bad? The content is supposed to be for people that try hard
Eureka and bozja did the same with their hard dungeon and no one gave a fuck. Baraly anyone has ozma or the cerberus mount. Why is it a proble now?

>>713585943
>No you MUST join my trannycord and kiss ass or you can't do this content!!

>>713591296
Why do none of the multiple traditional JRPGs Square Enix make count?

>>713582245 (OP)
what does this mean
will SE allocate more budget and manpower for ffxiv now

>>713591680
yup they should make it free trial with a skip button

>>713591680
Watch every purchase of 8.0 come with a 7.0 MSQ skip. It's what I would do.

>>713591680
>Dawntrail killed the game. No matter how glorious the next expansion, knowing you have to go through DT to reach it becomes a wall for everyone who didn't already play it
holy shit its stormblood levels of cope again

>>713586928
And the worst part they'll never even consider that they fucked up they'll just say players weren't interested and trash the content never to do it again.

>>713591735
anon bozja had the perfect system and they trashed it away ( only issue was the battleground maps raids)

>>713591735
People expected another Bozja Castrum instead of anything even remotely punishing.

>>713591735
Hey dipshit Bozja had Normal mode versions you could hop in with randos and clear. No discord cliques required.

>>713591743
Like Capcom dark era Square Enix became the favorite company for grifters
>Look at ME complaining about FF 14 btw subscribe
By cowards millennials who are too cowards to grift actual huge games like LoL or Fortnite that would give them way more views.
People also love drama and be part of one, of FF comes back again they will say they knew it would come back and larp as fans again, like those pretending they were always sh2 fans with SH2R

>money wasted on new datacenters
>money wasted on fag aftra VAs
>gachashit like wuwa and ZZZ continuously luring away all their players, never to return
Square's shareholders brought this on themselves. Should've known better than to hire dangerhairs.

I'll never understand just how thoroughly mentally disabled someone would have to be to jump from one MMO they think it's dying to an even deader one full of embarrassing antiwriting and faggot pride parades with little gay furrybait characters and nothing but emasculated cucks and the cockroaches that play them.
I mean talk about cutting off your nose to spite you face. Just DON'T play MMO's. You got the perfect excuse to stop playing and work on your backlog, or fuck off outside. Anything would be better than an mmo in 2025.

>>713586576
Nobody but WoW refugees were doing that. Actual FFXIV players were happy with how things were before the Shadowbringers tourist attraction.

>>713591735
>how is this bad?
Because so far, every bit of new combat content has been catering 100% to savage raider. This is not healthy for the game, but somehow square keeps doing this ever since they introduced Criterion.

>>713591296
Didn't they release a saga Frontier 2 with new content, a remake of romancing saga and porter Fantasian? Even DQ2HD is going to feature a new party member (which is already more than FF pixel remasters)
Also SaGa producers said they were working in a new SaGa and a new remake. They also made World of FF which was good and comfy

>>713591626
I'am pretty sure all the figure heads on this project heads will roll minus Yoshi P's because its clear that he had other shit to do. But Kates dumb fucking ass and the Va for Wuk'Lamat are for sure about to be excommunicated.

>>713587112
>2ch

Fuck this shit dead mmo, i'm going to NGS.

The more square enix loses the more the rest of the video game industry wins.

>>713586928
>37% of people have cleared the normal alliance raid which anyone can do
Maybe 7% for chaotic isn't that bad after all.

>>713591946
SaGa is a low budget niche series. It's good, but it's not what people are looking for.
>World of FF
A great game, but it was on the Vita. It's like a decade old at this point.

>>713587112
2chan is a bunch of losers who love drama
How many of them bought romancing saga 2 remake?

>>713592063
It absolutely is.

>>713591861
Shitting on things that people love won't make you popular. The hate-click strategy has killed game journo sites. Shitting on things that people are frustrated with will make you popular. People want to hear their thoughts repeated back to them.

None of this stuff about what is and isn't profitable to attack is terribly complicated. You just need to stop treating people like robots and start treating them like people.

>>713582245 (OP)
>>713587112
>CEO shitting on yoshida
>Japanese players shitting on yoshida
>CEO says to just check back after 8 0
Kek, this is amazing. A Starbucks troon killed Square Enix once and for all.

>>713592185
>2chan is a bunch of losers who love drama

>>713592294
BUCK OF STARS
STAR OF BUCKS
SHEDDING TEARS IN STARBUCKS CUPS

>>713582245 (OP)
This is the problem Yoshida is working on too many games, first 16, now ff tactics as well as 14 and other undisclosed titles.

>>713589579
I liked the EW Post MSQ but it felt like an expansion they cancelled and decided to compress into a patch series which just made it feel really rushed.

>>713587112
Take him off those jobs and let him do his shit on XIV alone you stupid retards.

>>713592248
Not really faggot, people evolved to drama queens and I have seen advertising their shitty YouTube channel in this place. Mad culture is femcel behaviour, everyone knows as soon as you get what you want you will find another reason to complain, happened with every fucking title

>>713582320
also dying in JP though

>>713582320
you know the game is full of trannies and men playing female characters right?

>jobs
I wonder if those are FFX remake and x-3, the one who leaks persona games said they were working on those

>>713592379
So true sister, real men keep their heads down and their mouths shut. ESPECIALLY when a trans woman of color speaking. We have to learn to be better men.

>>713592343
WOLVES!
WESTWARD WOLVES!

>good news

>>713590386
>gets utterly mindbroken when her all female ultimate group gets filtered and falls apart
>loses her mind even further when she tried to do an ultimate when it was relevant and couldn't get carried through it by her simps
>suddenly has a lot of issues with the game surely not that she got exposed as being shit

Is it... over?

>>713592473

ITS OVER

>>713582245 (OP)
>Also, producer Yoshida is doing several jobs at the same time
So he can deliver dogshit like FFXVI? Just bring him back to XIV.

>>713592450
Nigga just unsubscribe. I didn't see you this crazy when persona 3 remake hired troons and nignogs and changed the script to be less problematic

How do you guys think the Westwolves timeline is doing now?
Are they enjoying Blitzballer?

XD

>>713592294
He's not shitting on Yoshida. I sometimes wonder if you fucking retards can even read. He's running defense for Yoshida.

>>713592568
Are you sure about that? Because I indeed was angry about that and refused to boughted P3R (also because it ruins the atmosphere of the original game which is superior). Maybe you should stop pretending you know what I've posted before on this website, you dumb nigger.

>>713592379
Blizzard has been giving people what they want for WOW and most of the complaining seems to have died down.

Actually expedition 33 is good for ff, not turn based only because
>Mapamundi (no more open world meme)
>30 hours or so long
>Multiplat day one
That saves A LOT of budget and people will buy it because they are still obsessed with FF, even if the story was bad as long as they have handsome characters and new stories people will buy it

>>713590157
It's not, he is just bullshitting. This is like saying fucking other women will make your marriage better.

>>713592575
>new world expansion
>only blue mage is in a fishing quest

>core team that works on FFXIV is very popular and beloved
>"promote" most of them onto other games and supervisory positions instead of them doing what they were good at
>replacements are shitty B-Team rejects or newbies that don't know a fucking thing
Why does this always happen?

>>713592379
Pretty much, see
>>713590167

>>713592498
WEST
NO MORE ONCE UPON A WOLVES

>>713592649
It was too problematic so they were written out of Shaaloani. Did you notice how the saloons like the one in Thanalan have Eorzean writing on them despite Turalis being confirmed as illiterate several times? Member how Erenville said he'd take you to the Whalaqee when you first stepped off the boat, and which zone you spend time with him in?

>>713592379
Then why are sites that are always attacking the customers and the things that they love dying?
Why are the most popular gaming youtubers and streamers those who's views generally line up with the games that people buy?

Even if you go to Kiwi Farms, they're not just attacking things at random. The first step is to explain why people shouldn't like the individual or community being covered. If the explanation is insufficient for convincing people that they're evil and/or extremely stupid (preferably both), the one writing the post is just a retarded asshole grasping at straws, and people prefer retarded assholes to be the content rather than the presenter (in other words, it's profit for someone else, not him).

Yoshi and CBU3 should all just take a hike into Aokigahara and never come back out

Consider the following. If they do turn it around in 8.0 (big if) imagine the money they'll make from people paying for Dawntrail skips.

>>713582245 (OP)
The fact the CEO admitted he is working on too many projects is wild.

>>713592851
7.0 The Great Filter pt.2

>>713582320
>People are tired of doing the same fucking thing every few years over and over again.
MMO's are dying in general, the only retards that keep them up are Gen X and Millennials, everybody else could give a fuck.

>What do you mean all the shit I worked for is now worthless and I gotta do it again?
>Nah, ill go play something else instead!

Who needs MMO's when the social experience of them is long dead.

ONCE UPON A TIME
THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL MMORPG
THAT FELL TO APATHY AND ROTTED INSIDE AND OUT

>Oh god, another fucking talk to Wuk'Lamat quest?
>How?! How did we go from Endwalker to this?!
>Help... a shred of battle content, please...

THE MORE ITS PLAYERS CLUNG TO LIFE, THE MORE THEY SUFFERED

>Please hold on! It gets better at lvl97!
>A-At least... the dungeons are better than usual...
>We will have more content than Stormblood!

UNTIL THEY CURSED NOT THE GAME, BUT THEIR FELLOW PLAYERS

>You just want instant gratification! Let them cook the next arc!
>It's a worldbuilding expansion! It's supposed to be slow!
>You just hate trans people!

Those who played and decayed... those who had enough and unsuscribed...
And the very last of them wished they never played at all.

>>713592638
It will, though? Bioholes are just cattle.

>>713592916
>it gets good again 400 hours in

When are we getting a blu update, DD where Blu's can enter as well as blu's being able to enter the exploration zone?

>>713584851
lmao that shit is actually hilarious that they thought beast tribes are like lesser races like brown people

>Better give them some gibs or they might start another sleeper cell and summon their God and cause another terrorist attack

>>713584978
lmao, i'm going to call some latinXs racist on X later. gonna be lols

>>713585048
why the fuck does her face look like that. whats wrong with her teeth. is that a troon?

>>713582245 (OP)
Based
Squenix is dead anyway

>>713592981
Square doesn't care about BLU, it'll get nothing this expansion because muh cost of doing it and Beastmaster at the same time.

So do you think the main scenario writer is petulant enough to just spam Wuk Lamat moments in the final patch of Dawntrail's story as a fuck you to people that can't stand his OC waifu?

>>713593013
>why the fuck does her face look like that. whats wrong with her teeth. is that a troon?
No just SJW feminist.

I actually like FFXIV and I'm glad Dawntrail's MSQ is getting this much negative feedback. There's been a lot of rot that has existed for a long time before Dawntrail that has only been brought into the light since we've finally gotten a dogshit MSQ.

>>713592916
Comparing DT to ARR is an insult to ARR and how the writers actually set up plothooks for the future

>>713590518
>hes an MMO guy
>makes the most non mmo mmo ever

>>713593076
>So do you think the main scenario writer is petulant enough to just spam Wuk Lamat moments in the final patch of Dawntrail's story as a fuck you to people that can't stand his OC waifu?

Yes, given that Yoshi P was noticeably angry that people liked Honey B Lovely (a raid boss that only had a paragraph of dialogue at the time of the poll) over Wuk Lamat.

>>713592981
Supposedly sometime this expansion, but fucking when? Unless they just decided not to announce it at the first 7.3 live letter. Beastmaster will be at the end of the expansion and they won't do them both at once. The expansion site also says blue mage updateS, plural.

>>713592921
Gachas are replacing mmos

>>713592981
Mm sorry. Best I can do is a level cap increase and 1 or 2 new arena battles. :)

People are way too addicted to this MMO

>>713593085
I'm not comparing it to ARR lol. I love ARR, but ARR patches were called the great filter because they got people to quit. I'm just saying that 7.0 is the next one, and this time it is actually bad.

>>713593137
KEK he was? That's grim.

>>713593137
>given that Yoshi P was noticeably angry that people liked Honey B Lovely (a raid boss that only had a paragraph of dialogue at the time of the poll) over Wuk Lamat.

Hoo boy, Owari Da... I'd be super pissed too.

>>713593137
If it actually happened people might actually firebomb his house kek

>>713591770
Hah, no. At some point their financial strategists will realize how much money there is to be made. They'll probably offer DT story skips at a 20% discount off the normal story skip price for a limited time, banking on that plus the word of mouth about how shit DT was to sell hundreds of thousands of skips.

>>713593137
Proofs?

>>713593226
Fair enough my bad there, if there's ever a time to do a WoW style timewalking campaign. It'd definitely be after Dawntrail

>>713587035
welp, china is our last hope

Day by day, Barry is winning slowly but surely

>>713593226
Filter implies the problem's with the people not being able to continue (ie getting filtered). Dawntrail's just bad, no reason anyone should subject themselves to it.
I mean FFXIV is a bad game, at a gameplay level. MMOs are already the lowest form of video game you can play outside of maybe MOBAs. Legitimately lowest form of shit. And XIV isn't even a good MMO according to "MMO specialists". It was entirely held up by the story and other such elements and you're never getting Endwalker level stakes and emotions back.
What I am curious about is, wonder if they're desperate enough to bring back say, Emet or something, to salvage this shitshow.

>>713593137
you dont need to make up stories about yoshida you know, DT is already bad enough without needing housewife-tier gossip

>>713593292
>>713591550
I'm noticing, sadly.

>>713593237
>>713593279
>>713593315
>>713593327
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/yoshi-p-supposedly-isnt-a-lil-drone-of-ffxivs-new-idol-honey-b-lovely-2000132613

https://x.com/aitaikimochi/status/1818578002424328648

Yes >Twitter I know

>>713593439
Reading between the lines with how Yoshi P has been displeased about people not liking Wuk Lamat and wanting to show more of "what makes her great" and this does paint a picture

>>713593137
Why is he even so defensive of Wuk. It's not as if he's the writer, why the fuck is he sticking his goddamn neck out for such shit. I get defending your team but your team fucked up at some point you grab the wheel from the helmsman if he's steering you into the shallows, even if you don't let your superiors hang him later.

>>713584851
For me it was when they omegakilled Venat to completely remove her from the story forever, even though Elidibus has came back multiple times while being just as dead. Not to mention the shit with the gods.

>>713592927
Pure kino. Exactly the ending they deserve after preaching so hard about how to persevere.

>>713593504
>People really spend all day analyzing this ugly nip
Do FF fags really? You would die with Tekken and Harada

>>713593426
>What I am curious about is, wonder if they're desperate enough to bring back say, Emet or something, to salvage this shitshow.
I'm not expecting 8.0 to be good, and I will probably not return. I'm not even playing now, but that would seal the deal on me never coming back.

>>713593515
He said in an interview at some point that he doesn't want anyone in his team being targeted and to direct all ire towards the game at him

>>713583042
Stupid retarded decisions mainly. Mostly stemming from retarded greed for theyre own good.
Im still annoyed at how much of a colossal fuck up Echoes of Mana was handled.

>>713582317
>President Kiryu
nani?

>>713593085
>ARR and how the writers actually set up plothooks for the future
This is actually something that worries me far more long-term than badly written Mary Sues DMPCs. None of the writers working on XIV seem to be able to write long-term anymore. In 1.0 / ARR, each City State had its fair share of background conflicts (refugee crisis, Ishgard isolationism, Empire shenanigans and of course the Beast Tribes) that weren't solved and could take center stage anytime, and in some case did. Everything since post-EW (arguably post ShB) has closed more than it has opened. The Void is a non-factor, the Twelve will never appear again, Emet's list is already almost done. Tural is magnitudes bigger than Eorzea but feels narratively so small in comparison. We're not even one MSQ into our new arc we already have a dimension hopper as if the writers feel like Etheirys is a deadend. 8.0 will probably be better than 7.0, but every story from now on being "follow the new character in nth Continent / Shard and help him solve the entire regional conflict forever" really doesn't inspire me.

>>713593426
if they brought emet back I seriously think someone would go nuts and try to attack the devs

>>713591735
DR and CLL could be cleared with randos rather easily. DRS was a different beast entirely.

>>713593504
>honey bee is popular and yoshida is happy despite not liking the character
>yoshida wants people to like wuk lmao too in some other interview because the devs put a lot of money into sweet baby's consulting
>this means he's mad that people like the idol instead of the tranny
literal fancanon backed by twitter gossip.

>>713593515
He's essentially the "god" of FFXIV even in universe where his self-insert character (not even using this derogatory) does break the 4th Wall to talk directly to the player in The Rising events, Hiroi is a garbage writer but even according to YoshiP the buck does stop with him.

>>713593627
Yeah. It's even "resolved" in 7.2 where we don't even go to Tural since there's no conflict there.

>>713593570
And I fully understand that, and I'm all on board for shitting on him for this mess. It's ultimately his fault, he's right about that.
But what I don't get is not admitting Wuk's just a bad character and the plot of Dawntrail has massive issues. I'm fully good with blaming him for it, but I also want him to admit there was a fuck up.

GO WOKE GO BROKE

>>713593412
>Barry
Who the fuck is that?

>>713593727
I suppose because at this point what's done is done and for him to acknowledge that Woke Lmao was a bad character would be tantamount to him pointing his finger at the writers in public and saying "These guys did a bad job". That would not be acceptable in Japan and instead it would appear like he's trying to save face, since those writers were supposed to have been supervised by him and acted under his directions, since he was the producer.

>>713593426
>>713593634
Emet will be back in the next ultimate. It's going to be Hades and Warrior of Light together, guaranteed. They need to create some kind of fan hype for this expansion.

>>713582245 (OP)
its just a boring game. People get excited over patches that contain nothing of substance, fucking QOL changes that shouldve been in the game at like Heavensward. Its wild how shit it is, some korean p2w shit is better designed and upkept than this so called critically acclaimed mmorpg. I dont know what sort of a mental dissonance you gotta have to play this for so long. Whats also funny to me is that they are saying players are going to enjoy the game from 8.0 onward, meaning all content for 7.x is already deemed trash. Im sure its the same thing for WOW. MMOs are dead and they blew their own brains out.

How do I Zodiark trance?

Bring back edgekino.

>>713583718
Because MMO expansion development cycles this far in are usually extended out as far as two expansions back.
They either saw the writing on the wall early on and started steering the ship right since before EW for 8.0 or they're headed straight for the iceberg right now and 8.0 is giga fucked.

>>713582245 (OP)
Bring her back as a hot viera and all will be forgiven.

>>713593935
Shitposting excessively how the kind and caring mother figure is actually evil and totally caused all the problems and the congregation was totally right guys!
Also be a femcel for Emet.

>>713592605
>come back RIGHT NOW or we'll demolish your fucking home
This is such an asshole thing. Don't they really have the room to store a bit of data?

>>713594046
She's deleted from the lifestream though

>>713593935
>>713594078
How are you STILL this asshurt over a shitty ESL comic this many years later?

>>713583718
They can't do anything. We know for a while that FFXIV essentially has a small fixed budget and the game's profits goes to Square Enix so they can make goyslop like Forspoken and that shitty Avengers game.

YoshiP even publicly brought it up in response to why there's no "easy mode" of the new raid.

>>713594046
Still upset that Emet gets to chill in the sea of souls alive while Venat is 100% dead forever. Worst thing the fucking Fujo did.

>>713594078
>kind and caring
>did nothing to warn the survivors about what should be done, enabling ascians to enact their plans and destroy most of the reflections

>>713594138
>asshurt
I just answered the anon that's all
>>713594204
See, this guy's doing it.

>>713594320
>anything that disagrees with me is a shitpost
Why are Venatfaggots so disingenuous?

>>713593748
The man who won the world

>>713594046
>bnnuy
Discord tranny babyspeak, kill yourself.
>>713594347
>disingenuous
Twitter tranny language, kill yourself.

>>713593935
Trancing is dying
To properly ZODIARK TRANCE!, the game must provide suitable edgelords with morally gray-ish motivations for 12 year olds to latch on like Ascians, Varis and Ilberd.

>>713592605
PAY YOUR VIRTUAL RENT TO YOSHIDA YOU PAYPIG! SAVE FF14!

>>713592713
From a business standpoint it makes perfect sense, they know most won't leave so it's a waste of money to overspend on a captured audience.

>>713592493
>It's even worse than i thought
My fucking side

>>713594124
Yeah and Elidibus was a literal battery for the crystal tower in the first but SOMEHOW he still came back (I haven't played since 6.0, but I know he shows up in the raids). The only reason to not bring Venat back is the devs being sour she became much more popular with the little amount of screentime she got than all their other pet characters. She STILL gets frequent fantart while the poochie is still in the single digits.

>>713594383
>Doesn't like bunny girls
raging homosexual

>>713594493
>LE BNNUY WIDDLE BNUUY MLEM CATTE SO SMOL X3 WIDDLE BABAA BOOBOO GOOGOOGAGAGA AM WIDDLE SMOL BNUUY SO CINNAMON ROLL PRESHUS X3
Kill yourself.

>>713594384
Ilberd is an actual hero, since he put his money where his mouth was and gave his life for his cause, which ended up being the catalyst for the liberation of Ala Mhigo. You can criticize him for being mean spirited about it, but he was a bitter war vet and an orphan, his life was shit and then his best friend became rich and abandoned him.

>>713594436
she basically turned into a blasphemy and we all know how that ends

>>713594540
I literally talk like that ingame and everybody loves me.

>>713594578
clearly not because he shows up in the aetherial sea seething and trying to kill the wol like all the other villains

>>713594672
You're a tranny and you'll rope before you turn 30 so do us all a favor and hurry things along.

>>713593614
Yes old President was Matsuda for the last decade, you can blame him for the bad decisions like Dawntrail, Nomura being shuffled everywhere on projects, Forspoken. Irony is it was the NFT's and selling Western studios for pennies that did him in and they hired a younger executive in Kiryu.

11's better anyways.

>>713594687
The ghosts in the Aetherial Sea are playing out emotions before their death that they associate with WoL. He's seething because his last memory of you was a fight. Even though you speedread past the explanation before the dungeon, I have told you this over and over again in these threads so you no longer have any excuse for pretending to be retarded.

>>713594687
Obviously because the developers lost ability to write nuance post Shadowbringers.

>>713594759
Clearly not since Asahi of all people could act like a normal person

If the next expansion doesn't come with a free story skip they can fuck off.

>>713594594
Know that I think about, maybe it's good she's removed from the story forever, at least the writers can't ruin her even more

>>713594837
Ilberd is not there consciously aware of what's happening above and seething. It's a lingering memory.

>>713592981
We are getting blu update, aren't you getting blu-balled be Yoshit-Piss?

>mention my wife once
>Summon a sea of seethe
What makes her so powerful?

>>713594759
>Asahi
>Yotsuyu
>Ysayle
>Minfilia
These all say otherwise.

>>713595009
See >>713594927

>>713594994
Because she's a beautiful female character in a game played mostly by filthy femcels and stood in direct opposition of the character those femcels thirst over.
It's a combination of factors that causes eternal seethe in the majority of non-male FFXIV players. They will never

>>713595061
Silence.

>>713595046
If that was just a remnant, it only proves he was weak shit because he couldn't linger like they did

>>713595009
asahi was so fucking angry at hermes he decided to stay conscious after his death

>>713595145
You can't be sane and not be angry with Hermes, the fucking idiot destroyed most of the universe over his workplace depression because he happened to be born of a godlike race with capability for horrific destruction.

>>713594994
Who knows.

Stop discussing about pre DT story
Discuss about Wuk and tacos!!!!!

>>713594691
Okay tranny

>>713595145
>Ayfw a gay simp has greater willpower than a 'brave' Ala Mhigan 'hero'

>>713595145
>asahi was so fucking angry at hermes he decided to stay conscious after his death
But Hermes didn't take over his body until after he died so why would he know unless he was conscious to begin with

>>713595118
They're all memories called to you for various reasons. Ilberd is a memory of hatred because he was your enemy. Your allies are helpful memories because they're your allies. Minfilia on the other hand is an actual spirit who has not been dissolved yet, which is why she has no message of a memory coalescing and is labelled Minfilia's Spirit. Asahi is the same, he's not gone yet.

>>713595225
Put down the bottle, Krile. You're drunk.

>>713595268
can you not embarrass me in front of the internet like that

>>713595218
Wuk Lamat would NOT offer friendship lightly.

>>713593085
ARR's world building was mainly in the patches, the release story was as uninteresting as DT's with garbage padding (the crystals for Garuda, the feast for Titan among other things) except for the Coerthas bit but at least it didn't introduce shit that later stories will have to address to even function (the regulators alone are a fucking massive can of worms) but on top of that, from what I saw, DT's patches are shit too.

I don't understand how they let this hack writer be the main writer of DT when EW's patches were already clearly showing all of his writing problems and massive flaws. Ishikawa was put in charge after being responsible of multiple storylines that were singled out by the players for their quality while his FFXIV resume showed that he was previously in charge of storylines that were either middling or actively disliked.

>>713594994
>ShB reveals Hydaelyn is a Primal
>ShB also does a lore dive on the Ascians
>Fujos and browns latch onto the idea the Hydaelyn is the real villain
>Late ShB and early EW only fuels this
>Entire Headcanon gets shot in the head during Elpis
>The Headcanon gets tastefully cremated after the Hydaelyn fight
>Fujos and browns seethe because of this

This Garlean bitch is hot.

>>713593627
>None of the writers working on XIV seem to be able to write long-term anymore. In 1.0 / ARR, each City State had its fair share of background conflicts (refugee crisis, Ishgard isolationism, Empire shenanigans and of course the Beast Tribes) that weren't solved and could take center stage anytime, and in some case did.
Guess who wrote most of the little bits of lore like that? He's not writing for XIV currently anymore.

>>713595401
>Wuk is only nineteen
That explains the retardation

>>713593956
nah he just die as how he wanted by being a raid mount and get killed by his friendbando

>>713595442
And now you've realised why he was chosen to write DT's story.

>>713595514
People didn't know how good they had it

>>713595514
he was only good for meme item descriptions given how dogshit xvi is... > YES IFRIT ITS JESUSCRIST AND THE ALIEN DOG/GOD PRIMORDIAL EIKON DADDY ,SHIVA SUCKS HIS COCK AND ITS MADE FOR WIFEHOUSE AND COOLING THE FOOD

>>713595470
Is this the one who gets lewd arts of her getting fucked by horses or different garlean bitch?

>>713595661
It's a different Garlean bitch in the last Cosmic Exploration quest that I assume nobody has done because there's been no reason to go back there for like two months.

>>713595470
She is generic hyur with indian/garlean forehead dot

>>713595646
He wrote a lot more than that

>>713595646
Koji wrote for XVI but the main writer was Maehiro.

>>713595514
>introduces trannies into the plot because he couldn't admit being wrong
Yeah, no, he can go get fucked too.

>>713595729
Yeah the item descriptions and flavour text are 100% Koji's work

>>713595738
When did he do that?

>>713595738
That wasn't his fault for getting Nael wrong, but the fix was him trying to get it right.

>>713595738
Assuming you're talking about Nael, that's not what fucking happened. Nael's final gender was never decided even on the Japanese end until the development of Second Coil. But Koji had to translate 1.0 in 2010, in the era before troons gaslit everyone into thinking they/them are acceptable pronouns. So he used male pronouns for Nael because Nael used a male Elezen model like all other Garleans.
That meant that when Second Coil was developed and the elevens decided she was a girl, Koji had to come up with an excuse for why Gaius had been calling her a man all those years. The rushed excuse which is just Urianger's speculation is that Bahamut mixed up memories Nael had of his fiancee Bradamante. Then he got together with Banri Oda and worked out the actual reason, which is that "Nael" was actually his sister Eula who had a brother complex and went insane after he died and took up his identity so that he would live on.

>>713595830
He didn't, that anon is a moron.

>>713595886
>Nael's story wasn't always that it was actually his sister
I didn't even fucking know that.

>>713596038
The original speculation Urianger gives should still be in the game if you talk to him after doing Second Coil. Unless they sneakily pulled it out at some point.

Reading this thread really hammers in that mmo players are mentally ill and will overreact to anything

>>713586573
Nips are generally more patient but will absolutely take you to task for massively fucking up. This is hilarious.

The English script of this game makes no fucking sense.
>The boy's just not buoyant.
What? Boyant? What the fuck does that even mean? He's not boyish because he looks like a girl? What? I shouldn't have to constantly google these archaic bullshit words.
>Meanwhile, pic related
Clear, concise, and honestly... pretty hilarious. Alphinaud can't swim! Everyone from all walks of life, including those without an English major, can understand it. Beautiful. How dare Koji continue to fuck with the masterpiece that is the JP script?

Its time to play some real MMO.

>>713596373
Ok if you were complaining about the Larboard thing I'd agree but fucking boyant? You don't know the word boyant? Either you're ESL or you're straight up illiterate.

>>713596449
>boyant

>>713596487
Yea I'm a dipshit and spelled it wrong after that reading it that way. I realized immediately after I hit post.

>>713596487
>>713596373

>>713596373
>>The boy's just not buoyant.
>What? Boyant?
I'm ESL and even I could immediately understand what buoyant meant, do you not know what a buoy is?

>>713596589
American education system at work.

>>713596589
Obviously I know what a boy is.

I will still stick to FF14. There is literally no other MMO to play but WoW.

>>713596449
>boyant

>>713596624
You know there's a huge problem when an ESL even worse, a french ESL can understand an english word an american can't.

suffer

>>713596373
>Boyant?
>He doesn't know what buoyant means
Grim

>>713596449
>>713596768
>>713596589
hello EWbabbies

>>713596926
Boyant boy gets them every time.

>>713587928
we aren't going to have a fanfest 2025 because the first fanfest is usually just after a X.4 patch and that wouldn't happen until January.

>>713588176
Have to agree with this. With as much as I couldn't stand Dawntrail, I could still tell the game was made with as much attention to detail and care as the best expansions. It's just a shame all that effort was wasted on such a sloppy story that ruined their efforts. The new dungeons have all been really good. The maps are beautiful and the side quests are still interesting.

It's just that 2 hour patches aren't going to remedy a 40 hour stinking abysmal failure.

>>713596384
Combat is a dream come true, but build variety sucks, also it has all the baggage from Korean kusoge

>>713597652
>The new dungeons have all been really good.
Bro MSQ was so boringly bad I managed to play only the first 2 dungeons before quiting and I agree, at least those looked good but they also had the same routine as the previous dungeons which didn't help at all

>>713595442
Because he was the only one left to do the job. Ishikawa got too up her own ass and moved on essentially, but still wanted a paycheck and accepted a "supervisor" role on paper. She didn't supervise shit. She wrote a small part for G'raha and fucked off.

>>713592405
I'm sure they joined in the complainers of how bad that one tranny did at voice acting.