Thread 713602184

These are Digimon in 2025, what the fuck went wrong? What happened to waifumons?

I'd have sex with both of them

>>713602463
One is a skeleton and the other a robot.

>>713603812
Did I stutter?

>>713602184 (OP)
Went wrong? Both look cool

It's crazy how you can look at a digimon designed in 2025 and it still looks like it could have been designed in 1996

>>713602184 (OP)
Fuck off Watanabe can draw whatever he fucking wants. sometimes that's tamagochi critters often it's dinosaurs. Girls occasionally

>>713602184 (OP)
I know this is probably bait, but thats unironically a newfag opinion. waifumons have always been less main focus and more contrast and diversity, the ladies in costumes are meant to make the dinosaurs with missile launchers cooler and the aethetics rom the dinosaurs makes the ladies hotter, you cant really have one without the other.

>>713602184 (OP)
I'm somewhat of a Digimon expert and I can confidently say those are some digimon'ass looking digimon

I know nothing about Digimon other than occasionally fapping to Renamon but I think that artificially locking themselves ito having to end every monster name with -mon has limited their design possibilities significantly.

>>713602184 (OP)
I'm the first one to shit on DIgimon but the one on the left actually looks cool.

>>713604729
i like the headcanon that they all end with -mon because its the file type

>>713602184 (OP)
Ah sweet, actual Digimons. OP, you need to stop sucking cock.

>>713602184 (OP)
Digimon went through a long period where they pumped out almost nothing but bland waifumons and generic dudes in armor and it fucking sucked, I'm glad they finally went back to making both cool monsters and human-like mons that actually stand out

>>713602184 (OP)
Skullseadramon? sick

>>713603812
>robot
where? those teeth and gums look very organic to me
>>713605692
how can you say that? look at this poor little kaiju. he's in pain

>>713602184 (OP)
digimon always looked like that

>>713605692
This. Actual monsters again is a breath of fresh air.

>>713606658
anon forgot what a cyborg is, please forgive him.

if I have any feature requests for time stranger, it's the ability to quickswap digimon in bulk (including equipment) so you can train at the farm and then pick them up when they're done in 1 single button press
it would get rid of the tedious ritual of transferring each mon, training each mon, getting each mon back, then re-equipping each mon again before

>>713610881
>so you can train at the farm and then pick them up when they're done in 1 single button press
Found the mobile gamer.

>>713611093
have you played the DS RPGs? do you know how fucking tedious it is to drop off your party to train every when a new day rolls (every 10 minutes)? and then having to re-equip your party after you're done? it's an absolute chore
what's the point of the farm if just killing stuff to gain 20 levels (60+ in cyber sluts) in 1 fight is faster?

>>713602184 (OP)
They both look cool.

>>713611431
Kid i played the original tamagatchi Digimon.
Hate to break it to you, but the joy of Digimon is to raise them on your own. It's not hardcore raising like Monster Rancher/ Digimon World 1. But the whole joy is "Make numbers be bigger".
Requesting things to be simplistic completely breaks the meaning of playing Digimon.
>what's the point of the farm if just killing stuff to gain 20 levels (60+ in cyber sluts) in 1 fight is faster?
Why even play any RPG at all if you think grinding is a chore?

>>713605692
Like I think I like my big titty waifumons as much as the next guy, but yeah it sure as fuck seems like they had way to much.

Besides, I like the concept that you have to try to raise your Digimon into a big titty waifu carefully, instead of just stumbling across it on accident since they make up half the pool of mons or something.

>>713611614
Fuck, its not even that hardcore in World 1, even there its not about being a tryhard minmaxing everything, its about having a journey with your digimon, growing with it as you save file island.
>>713611431
also, specially in CS the farm gives your stats outside the digis level growth.

>>713611431
I don't know, The DS games didn't seem that tedious grinding out a max stat mon. I remember world 3 being more of a grind.

>>713602184 (OP)
>What happened to waifumons?
Extinct, I fucking hope.
I wany MONSTERS in my digital MONSTERS. Give me more cool robot nazi dinosaurs.

>>713602184 (OP)
Gods they look so fucking cool.

>>713612298
>robot nazi dinosaurs
I'm pretty sure we have stuff that are like 2 of those things at once, but any mons that are all three?

>>713611614
>Hate to break it to you, but the joy of Digimon is to raise them on your own
>grinding
It's not grinding. It's not even playing the game. It's just fucking menuing. Layers upon layers of menus, just to move one stupid mon, train it, move it back, then re-equip it. rinse and repeat 6 (or more times) every 10 minutes (when the day ends)
Even in lost evolution it's much quicker to just be an asshole and digi-convert every single mon you scan and feed them as fodder to your main party via digi-loading (~20 in each stat per digimon).

>>713612298
>implying women are not monsters.

>>713602184 (OP)
These have the same design philosophy as older digimon. Just look at MetalSeaDramon and MachineDramon.
Meanwhile, Pokemon design philosophies have experienced a dramatic fall in quality over the last decade.

As >>713605692 says Bandai came to their senses back in 2020 and ever since has toned down the knightshit and humons waifus: We still get them, but now we get as many grungy, organic monster, kaiju, undead, and gross cyborgs like the series had back in the 90s when it was influenced by western horror/adult comics., "gross out" advertising for boys, and graffiti

This has been a good return to form and while I am sure OP is just shitposting, if anybody genuinely dislikes the shift back then I want to know why your taste is shit

>>713604145
thank god

>>713604729
I can assure you it does not, Digimon designs have no firm rules or limits for what they can be, despite "-mon" implying monster. Some of them are entirely robotic, some are Just A Guy, some of them are formless lovecraftian things, etc

>>713610881
I don't know if they clarified on the amount of button presses involved, but they've said you can access the farm, evolution menus, etc from anywhere and not just the digilab now

>>713612467
I'm waiting on gunfridgemon, which mixes mammals, reptiles, and kitchen appliances with guns

>>713602184 (OP)
>>713602184 (OP)
>>713602184 (OP)
FYI this is, I believe, waifu2x upscaled

Here is the original resolution image from the Digimon web twitter

OP if I am incorrect and you got this from some other official account, let me know

>>713613878
rareraremon is cool

>>713613878
Is that a fucking shark guy?

>>713614154
yup

>>713614268
Sick.

>>713613878
Who are the penguin and the cage mons?

>>713602184 (OP)
I don't know anything about Digimon but these guys look sick. I'm looking forward to playing the new game.
>>713613878
SHARK niggas

>>713614412
>>713614412

>>713614510
>over 1500+ Digimon
>"Hey guys, who are these obscure ones?"
I would be impressed if someone knows those two off the top of their heads.

>>713614510
mimicmon and tempomon

>>713615125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU7uni0wYkE

>>713615482
Admit it, you looked them up

>>713602184 (OP)
Submarinomon looks sick

>>713615379
Well I was able to find them with some googling. Didn't take long.
Cage one is Mimicmon and the penguin is Tempomon.

>>713615670
>Submarinomon
That's not submarinomon, that's sharkmon

>>713602184 (OP)
I want more crustacean digimon

>>713615784
I know I was referencing what I said before you answered here >>713615379

>>713602184 (OP)
those look like some quality digimon
just like this quality digimon here, longgatormon

>>713615513
i didn't. they're both relatively notorious digimon for any long time digimon fan who engages with the franchise beyond the anime and videogames. mimicmon because he's from one the early 2020s vpets that fully brought the franchise back to its 90s design philosophy and tempomon because it's a pulsemon evolutipn from the first vital bracelet.

im playing cyber sleuths and i already feel the digmon world 2 level of grind are there any mons i should bee lie my self into cut down the grinding?

>>713615930
Screw it I'm gonna make my own Crab digimon.
Cancermon!
He's a radioactive crab in his Mega Form!

>>713605402
...that's actually genius, holy shit

>>713616173
>>713616189
U wut mate?

>>713616146

For the most part, you'll probably want to go down multiple Evo lines of digimon you don't want to learn their moves.

Grinding shouldn't be too bad, there's an exp farming method that I forgot how to do.

I do wish Machinedramon/Mugendramon looked like this tho. Kept the personality and everything, but just had the visual upgrade.

>>713616189
>>713616309
OH SHIT
Time for a Lobster!

>>713616592
No

>>713602184 (OP)
But it looks cool, whats the problem?

>>713616674
>>713616842

>>713616842
Uh, Sea Scorpion!

>>713615930
Luv this nigga

>>713617321
That's Anomalocaris, that's not a sea scorpion.

>>713616592
That face doesn't match it's personality one bit.

>>713615125
I can hear the stage boss intro theme from Megaman X playing

>>713617793
You're right, sorry they looked similiar.
This is a different form from X-Antibody of Scorpiomon called Anomalocarimon
I don't know if there's a sea scorpion or not.

>>713617793
Forgot pic >>713618561

>>713618561
Then it's up to me to draw it.
>Metallic body
>Crushing claws.
>Blade tail.

>>713618676
That's basically this >>713618650

>>713618735
Ah but he has a different body plan!
Look, I'm gonna draw a sea scorpion. I'll draw a waifumon after. Deal?

>>713618901
>Scorpiomon is a sea scorpion Digimon that is tan with orange markings. Like Anomalocaris, it has a pair of compound eyes on stalks in addition to a pair of blue eyes, a disk-like mouth lined with serrated prongs, and two large 'arms' with barb-like spikes in front of the mouth. It has two large blades and three pairs of spikes on its back. It has broad paddle-like legs with bladed edges in front of a row of blades on the sides of its body. It has a tail with spiked segments that ends in a blade-like styliform.

Is SaviorHuckmon and JESmon considered knight shit? I think they're pretty cool looking and it's not Omegamon for the millionth time
Imperialdramon is also pretty cool

>>713616146
When you reach the higher levels to farm,like Nakano underpass, you can farm a lot,like 2k exp without boost
Also don't compromise on a single Evo line, the mega ones like Omegamon,Belzeebumon etc, needs a lot of ABI,which is when you evolve or devolve the digimons
Also if you really want to cut down the grind, make PlatinumSukamon, like 4 or something, put them in the back with your main trio and grind, they increase XP in battles

Pumped for time strangers but also worried. Seems like a huge make or break moment. You can tell they really invested this time (compared to other recent digimon games), so if it isn't a hit the franchise is probably done for (at least the Vidya)

Also dusk/dawn are goated even though nobody ever talks about them. Mogs the shit out of the other ds games

I don't understand how the new personality system works and it scares me not knowing where my digimon fits in my political compass.

>>713612180
>Fuck, its not even that hardcore in World 1, even
world 1 wasn't made with max stats in mind, and you can just drown your mon in floppies for 0 cost. post-game quests in the DS games (legendary tamer, demon lords) will fuck you up without a maxed out team. same deal in cyber sluts.
>>713619536
>dusk/dawn
not with the retarded "scan every enemy individually" mechanic. play lost story, unless you're a faggot afraid of plates

My friend gave me one of those games for the switch, Cybersleuth. What am I in for?

>>713619742
There's two Cybersleuth games.
A long boring story that you can't skip the cutscenes
Generic turn based RPG system

>>713602184 (OP)
>New game looks amazing
>the TCG is great
>Liberator manga is ongoing
>Ghost Game was good
>new series coming out
We are DigiBack

Is Digimon Survive any good?

>>713619710
>not with the retarded "scan every enemy individually" mechanic
Gonna have to elaborate, what's wrong with the scanning system? You aren't forced to scan every enemy in the game

>>713619742
Honestly, it's slop. The story is super drawn out, tons of filler. The zones are giga boring, you get like 10 variations of "blue cyber area". Combat is piss. Too easy on normal, and on hard you're forced to use digimon with def pierce.
Lots of digimon, and it's 3d. That's pretty much all it has going for it

>>713619838
It's the turn based RPG one.
>>713620043
Ah, so I ought to sell it then?

>>713620162
>It's the turn based RPG one.
I was saying what you should expect after my first sentence.

>>713619710
Tbf Cyber sluts only begins to kick your teeth in when you're in endgame like the demon lords quests or the Royal Knights ones where you need max level teams or else Dukemon will wreck your shit

>>713620263
Ah sorry, just woke up, brains a bit fuzzy.

>>713620043
the game takes 2 fucking seconds per enemy. TWO fucking seconds. it takes like 1600 fights to beat the game on the lower end. since most fights feature more than 1 enemy, that's like 2~3 hours watiing for the stupid targeting reticle to hover over sprites

>>713620162
I mean it's either Cyber Sleuth or the Next Order one,the latter is more like an upgraded World 1
Survive is meh, it's a VN with tactical rpg mechanic

>>713620428
>Survive is meh, it's a VN with tactical rpg mechanic
So it's like Final Fantasy Tactics?

>>713620428
Maybe I should find Next Order then.

>>713620663
The combat system yeah
The VN portion is darker than the main entries if you're into that

>>713618006
That's what makes it funny.

>>713620773
>darker
and full of retardation too (shuuji urges everyone to stick together, yet he's the first one to run off ahead... twice)

>>713620743
I think it'll be on sale in steam
Also Next Order has more QoL over World 1,like easier stats to get the ultimates/megas, passive skills to increase the lifespan, and it's two digimons instead of one

>>713620948
>yet he's the first one to run off ahead..
He said stick together not slow down then lol.
>>713620773
Sounds good to me, guess I'll give that a try when i finish the games I'm currently playing.

>>713602184 (OP)
Left has the same face art style as skullgreymon, whoever designed it has still got it

Yeah yeah Cyber Sluts am I right?
But Nokia and Omnimon entrance was peak

>>713619536
Pretty sure the game is already doing significantly well with just the pre-purchases

>>713621738
Where are you getting that from?

>>713612467
Well we have robot dinosaurs and nazi dinosaurs. I don't think there is a robot nazi

>>713617026
>>713616973
>>713616842
>>713617321
>>713618650
>>713618561
>>713618676
It's annoying Gusokumon is the same evolution stage as Anomalocarimon/Scorpiomon instead of a mega/ultimate to end the crabmon > ebidramon > anomalocarimon line

For now I just pretend Anomalocarimon X is a mega/ultimate to end the line

>>713603812
You don't have to convince me further.

>>713604607
Based and correct take.

>>713621809
Some anons in another thread were posting charts, don't know what site they're from but they were apparently country-separated.
Steamdb places it at 219 on the top sellers at least

>>713620989
next order is a lot more streamlined too. the upgraded block command that reduces all incoming damage to 10 works while attacking, and you can attack while blocking too.
>>713621864
based. someone really needs to translate the fuhrer's game

If I took off Angewoman's helmet, will it be a face that greets me, or a wireframe?

>>713622942
It'd likely be a face. Digimon that have clothes/armor are torn/breakable.

>Some random spic takes 10/10 waifumon design
>Turns it into 11/10 CUTEwaifumonmon design
how did he do it

>>713624293
>waifumonmon
I'll go kill myself now

>>713624901
>Waifumonmon, the Waifu Digimon.

>>713626185
That reminded me of Moetron and honestly, looks digimony enough.

>>713626185
>>713624901
>it's just monmon with tits

>>713616592
Needs a cool mask.

This motherfucker just used speed charge and slapped your tiddymon's ass. What will you do in four turns?

>>713628175
behold

>>713616051
Love leviamon like you wouldn't believe

>>713619618
Wow that chart is unintuitive, half of this shit are synonyms of one another and most of it doesn't map to the axes at all: EX: Why is Reckless closer to the "Understanding" end then Daring is? the entire definition of being reckless is not being mindful of others

>>713620004
The consensus seems to be the visual novel stuff is good for a visual novel, tho the routes only change like 2/3 of the way into the game or something and it's a single branch; but the tactics segments are barebones

>>713628730
sex

>>713628061
Cover up those eyes. Then it could be a digimon.

>>713620004
I really dislike it
The characters behave nonsensically for the purpose of moving the plot along, and the gameplay is bland and unengaging.
Routes are too streamlined and the lockouts you're forced to deal with on the first playthrough are totally arbitrary.

>>713622942
Face. Any other answer is headcanon.

>>713602184 (OP)
Finally, a new digimon that isn't a furry, waifu or knight. Hopefully, they can keep it up.

>>713622942
Face.

>>713634192
You're several years behind bud, Digital MONSTERS are the norm again now

>>713634726
Cool story, bro.

>>713634726
Isn't Hydramon's TCG artist an actual unironic furry

>>713602184 (OP)
that's sick as hell

>>713634726
would

>>713635308
>is the guy who drew a gaping dragussy literally oozing cum a furry?
it is a mystery

>>713602184 (OP)
I dont think I've ever seen a bad 'shark that is a submarine' design

>>713637856
Is that the only cool digimon to come out of china?

>>713637954
I thought it was a Liberator digimon.

>>713616051
It needs to be longer.

>>713602184 (OP)
SkullSeadramon looks too clean.

>>713638016
Well, it's a sea monster. They're always washing themselves.

>>713620004
I hate it. It might be thr worst SRPG ever made.

>>713638008
Is it?
I thought it was from one of those china only games what's with the chinese vibes out of it.
I don't remember that being in lIberator, but then again, I'm a couple of chapters behind.

>>713638254
Yeah, there's a card for it. I don't think any of the Chinamons have cards. Also, it evolves from Marinbullmon.

>>713638401
Got it.
Regardless, that Ryugumon is beautiful and this Marinbullmon is gnarly as fuck.
I love them.

>>713602184 (OP)
what I dont like about sea digimons is that they just float while on land

Does anyone else think Jupitermon looks kinda bland?

>>713639386
Should they flap around on the ground and suffocate?

>>713639779
I think wrath mode saves the design

>>713639779
It's all the gold. Not enough color separation.

>>713639982
Pretty sure Wrath Mode is supposed to be something similar to Falldown Mode. It's probably not a "heroic" form.

>>713640627
>Jupitermon, who usually makes judgments without any emotion, undergoes a complete about-face when confronting those who have committed sins that cause it to be unable to restrain its anger. It summons its great divine sword "Keraunós" with an angry roar, and its body grows several tens of times larger, turning into a form clad in armor and lightning. The violent lightning surrounding it is the embodiment of its anger, and while it behaves calmly, each of its movements are brimming with awe, driving enemies into a corner from the pressure.
It will most likely be a form Aegiomon evolves into when some tragedy happens. Then you have to fight him and turn him into normal Jupitermon and then the big bad takes center stage.

>>713639845
Like magicarp in pokemon, yes.

Seadramon can stand on its own instead of floating like a faggot.

I do think it's sad that Jupitermon looks lamer than most Royal Knights. Also it looks weirdly Norse-inspired, which is weird.

>>713640467
It is more like, the "gold" looks like piss yellow instead.

>>713641160
only Magikarp does that though
other water Pokemon also float like that last I checked

>>713641424
thats sad.
Digimon should try to be better than pokemon tho

any news of the fucking card game?

I like cyber sluts but come on, I want a new card digital game

>>713602184 (OP)
>what the fuck WENT wrong?
Digimon was always wrong. It lacked Vidya. That is why Pokemon ist Pokemon and Digimon is Digimon.

Waifumons haven't gone anywhere

>>713641787
here's a trailer or something
https://x.com/DIGIMON_ALY_JP/status/1937707571118215529

>>713619961
Tcg is dogshit. Dont prank your brothers

>>713604607
At least a third of the appeal is the sense of timed exclusivity on fucking your waifumon.
You need to tap her now, before she turns into a giant robot train, or a weird gorilla man, or Falcor.
And, in reverse.
That Ork looted tyronosaurus with guns welded to it COULD become a muscular, amazonian mommy who lets you cummy in her tummy, so you gotta stay flexible, and decide when the time comes to take what's in front of you, and not miss the opportunity.
This keeps a sort of low-key, constant level of excitement in everything, that keeps you in the moment. You can't just count on your waifumon staying a waifumon forever, so you can put off romancing her until you feel "comfortable" with it.
You shit or get off the pot. It appeals to a fundamental level of impulsivity and self confidence that I'm not surprised filters some people.

>>713642029
What's this do, nta but I haven't played since my Quartzmon turbo deck stopped being good

>>713642029
>Tcg is dogshit.
Lol what? No it's not.

>>713642018
looks like hearthstone wtf

>>713642587
Look up Taomon loop

>>713642612
T. Plays nothing else but Yugioh

For anyone that has played both of them, how much side shit is left to do in Hacker Memories if you import a full 100% completion Cyber Sleuth save over. I know it carries over your full digimon compendium and all the medals(which I got all 500 of). I'm debating doing HM now or just waiting to play Time Strangers when it comes out to avoid burn out.

>>713642973
correct

Digimon is Yugi's only competition.

>>713620004
I'd say no
It has good parts to it, but it's really mired in strange choices that isolate those high points in a swamp of shit.
The plot is almost entirely uninteractive for the first playthrough, and people behave in very strange ways to justify this. The characters are not good, and feel, at times, to operate under shitty B movie horror logic, where their personality just shifts to whatever is most inconvenient for them, and most convenient to the plot as needed. The ways you can shift the plot in replays feel kinda token, and less like you're the captain of your own ship, and more like you're giving a little shove.
The gameplay isn't the worst thing I've ever played, but it is definitely not the focus. I could accept that if the story was really fucking good, but it's not, and so the gameplay being pretty barebones and simplistic is just kinda shit on top of shit. The pacing also fucking CRAWLS, which is a big fucking problem, considering you're supposed to replay this at least once. It crawls in a "this person talks about this same problem they're having like twelve times, before anything happens" way that I don't even think is true to life. People repeat themselves more in life than in stories, yes, but not to this painful of an extent.

It's kind of not fair, but they invited the comparison with the name. Devil Survivor blows Digimon Survive out of the fucking water in basically every way a game can. Better gameplay, better story, better characters, better fucking assessment of the human condition. Pretty much the only thing Survive has a leg up on, is the sprite art of the Digimon, which IS very nice.
It's like playing through the worst season of Digimon you've ever watched, I guess, so maybe it is a success there? Down to "the side characters are useless, why doesn't the main character just recruit a bunch of Digimon and shitstomp everything" being a thing you can do

>>713643183
Listen to me you listen incel.

Cyber Slut fucking SUCKED. I was tired of the game before I even finished half of it. I grinded away and completed it. I was sad that I had to play Hacker's Memory now because I was legit, bored to death of this "rpg".

1 hour into Hacker's Memory and I was already enjoying my time with the game. It fixed EVERYTHING, and the cutscenes stopped being cringe and went full kino and sometimes cringekino too.

DO NOT skip Hacker's Memory. Great game.

>>713643183
I mean, it's an entire second game full of content.
It IS mostly more of the same though, besides the weird.... strategy rpg, territory capture, board game thingymagig

>>713620004
Greatest take on the Digimon franchise since Digimon World 1.

But on retrospective, only the VN side of the game was good, and the rest was tedious. I hope they try the formula again. The VN worked.

>>713643496
Oh, yeah, I'd 100% back this, though
Hacker's Memory has a WAY better story and narrative than the original. If you were able to get through Cyber Sleuth's story at all and had a fun time, absolutely play Hacker's Memory.

>>713643496
>>713643508
I'm definitely interested in the story so that's why I'm specifically talking about the side content. My playthrough of CS took me 150 hours and I'd got to the final boss by 100. Cutting down the insanely tedious medal collecting alone makes me happy(whoever thought that mechanic was a good idea needs to be put to death).

when is the new cyber sleuth coming out again? I forgot

>>713644128
Early October if I remember correctly

>>713643831
You can platinum HM by the time TS comes out

>>713643831
I can say, having the evolution web mostly done at the start is a NICE quality of life reward, that lets you do more involved team building, since you can devolve more readily to navigate the evolution web.
And if you have Lucemon, they're actually SUPER useful for charting evolutions, so nice little perk there.

>>713643287
I remember back in high school there were a lot of people playing Magic:the Gathering. Isn't that still a thing?

>>713644301
it has got into that evil ascended plane where so much people collect the cards that less people play them

>>713644301
atrocious game designed by retards. Not a real competition. Even Pokemon is miles better than Magic.

>>713612114
Aren't there so many waifumons because of how much porn is on the internet?

>>713645421
That's not how the digital world works.

>>713645841
Yes it is, the MAIN Digimon continuity, the Digimon Reference Book, very clearly states in several occasions that Digimon are born from and heavily influenced by internet data and computer files, go back to Shitvive and Shartventure if you want muh yokai spirit extradimensional "Digi"mon

>>713629909
>half of this shit are synonyms of one another and most of it doesn't map to the axes at all
I bet it works better with the original Japanese.

>>713642973
Can I hose them with Quartzmon

>>713644301
MtG is technically still played quite widely but the owners of the IP have decided to shift to collectors and scalpers as the main market rather than players so it's prohibitively expensive and most casuals will proxy a bunch of stuff.

>>713646710
no

>>713646173
The internet is not the digital world where the Digimon live. The movie made it very clear.

>>713649760
>shartventure

>>713648717
That's my only non-premade deck though...
Is spot removal just everywhere now?

>>713649760
>>713646173
Both of you are wrong, or rather partially correct, meanwhile its canon that digimon and the digital world have existed before human digital presence, its also canon the fact that human data has heavily affected digimon, im not sure where the influence starts through, i could say, in a meta manner, that ever the first V-Pet was created, maybe earlier even, when we first started to transmit data electronically, maybe since the radio.

>>713603861
Did I stutter?

>>713652659
>its canon that digimon and the digital world have existed before human digital presence
Except in Tamers, of course.

>>713642973
I still prefer the standard Dukemon. That lance+shield combination is hard to beat. Overall, I don't really like it when variants replace relatively unique equipment with something more orthodox. It's why I dislike most WarGreymon variants.

>>713653069
It's also why the D-Reaper can only really exist in Tamers. There's no way a simple debugging program made by some college students could become a big enough threat to the Digital World in most other settings. Other Digital Worlds are too old and too large for that to ever work.

>>713653069
>>713653771
Yeah, thats also the thing, we are also running on canon multiverse bullshit too, i have no idea how the man-made digimon of tamers are compatible with the natural-born of other digital worlds.

>>713654565
Overall, the Tamers Digital World feels more primitive than others. There's no evidence of any greater entities like a host computer or the Kernel. It's just the Four Holy Beasts. There's no evidence that Huanglongmon exists either.

Also, in the first Tamers film, we do see an Omegamon that isn't from that dimension's Digital World. It seems to be several orders more powerful and more advanced than the Four Holy Beasts, able to freely move through the network and even transport humans across it.

>>713602184 (OP)
that looks fucking awesome
pleb taste, begone

what's more popular in digimon?
monsters that are basically animals or monsters that all decked out in tech?

>>713655358
The most popular Digimon are main characters from past shows.

As long as i have my gomamon i need nothing else.

Need this guy to complete my Monzaemon team.

Do picodevimons stay alive just because they evolves in the top tier digi-bitch? I see no reason to keep them alive and not killing them on sight.

>>713656327
very unlikely to be in

>>713637856
goonslop

>>713602184 (OP)
Now this is cool.
>What happened to waifumons?
Just play some gacha shit, gooner.

>>713604607
This.
Also that cyborg shark lauching torpedoes is genuinely the coolest new digi I've seen in years.

>>713658669
Nah, entmon still the coolest.

>>713602184 (OP)
finally, we're going back to where it began!

>>713613879
>fridge doesn't have melded flesh with an eye in a gap like Mechanorimon
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB!

>>713658815
It was cool seeing Entmon and Petaldramon hug each other to death in the reboot.

I know it's definitely too late for Liberator debuts, but do you think any Ghost Game mons have a shot at being in Time Stranger?

>>713604607
If you cant appreciate *both* the fuckhuge tiddys and the fuckhuge dinodragons you are definitely fucking gay.
>>713658815
*HeavyMetaldramon

>>713659731
Only as part of the DLC

>>713659731
No. It's unfortunatelybeen confirmed in interviews that the shitty kizuna agumon and gabumon forms are the sole representatives of 2020s Digimon anime in TS.

those look like something I'd have as wallpaper on my sonic Ericson phone in grade school

>>713619072
>considered Knightshit
>Royal knight
Yes

>>713659731
Nah basically the game has been in development for so long the latest anime digimon were the kizuna agumon and gabumon forms. So you have to pray for them to be dlc.

>>713619536
>Seems like a huge make or break moment
I bought the collectors edition, I'm doing my part
>Dusk/dawn
absolutely awesome, sprite art is great and it's so fucking fun

>>713620004
It was ok, it had a lot of great ideas that never never fully fleshed out, but if they were implemented correctly I think Survive could have been fucking amazing. I hope they make a sequel and improve of the things done well. I'd say it's at least worth a play through.

Between next order and cyber sluts what's the best for someone like me who has watched only the first three series of the anime? I need some "familiar faces" if you get my drift, i don't want to see only digimon unknown to me.

>>713620162
>Ah, so I ought to sell it then?
Cyber Sluts is fun, just keep in mind it's a Vita game. If you play it with the understanding it's a Vita game just brought to other consoles you'll have better expectations. If you want to run around as a hacker with a bunch of cool digimon beating the fuck out of people, it's good. I liked it

>>713621293
>gets a free gabumon and agumon because she has a pussy
>doesn't even train them, Hudie dude from hackers memory trains them
>coasts on her laurels of having 2 megas while everyone else has 2 champion digimon and are shitters
>as soon as she meets actual resistance, they turn into Omnimon
say what you want about Samsung being sexo or whatever, her Omnimon was fucking FREE. Didn't work for that shit at all

>>713628708
>implying I don't have a team of 3 UlforceVeedramon
anon, you don't even get to play the game, what are you talking about?

>>713660614
Just pick either then.

>>713646173
This is canon. What comes first is right.

>>713634726
>>713635042
both of these are cool, knightautists are gay, bad ass themed rose warrior is fucking cool and the flower petal lance is cool as fuck

>>713660918
Hm good to know.
Which one has renamon?

>>713602184 (OP)
Digimon is at its peak when it has a healthy mix of badass freaks, cool dudes in armour and waifumon

>>713660614
either is fine, but they play completely different. Do you want a half auto battle village creation sim with digimon dying or do you want a kind of bog standard JRPG monster raising experience?

The fuck is wrong with americans? I am from europe and i litterally did that for my lil sis when we were kids. I see nothing strange there to justify the censorship.
Reminds me of nier "westerners can't understand a brother who wants to save his sister".

>>713661046
Both

>>713661046
All of them.

>>713661198
>>713661265
Thanks for the answers, i think at this point i'll just flip a coin i will play both nonetheless.

>>713661198
CS barely has raising.

>>713661704
you get a little dude and turn him into a big dude. And like, half the evolutions in the game require you to put him in the farm and feed him and shit. that's more involved than any other non-digimon monster raising game in the past like, 20 years

How the fuck did pokemon won the war? Digimon was WAY better, the cartoon had a fucking plot with basically zero fillers, the kids felt real and the relationship between digimon and kid is more deep and strong than pokemon's.
Was just nintendo money?

>>713602184 (OP)
OP is fucking faggot and the one on the right is pure 90s radical soul. MORE organic missile mons

>>713661825
>How the fuck did pokemon won the war?
appealed more to kids and capitalized off of the popularity WAY more. Anime was constantly running, they pumped out games like no ones business.

>>713661797
I mean you got a point, but I can't call it a raising if the monster can't get sick or injured. I get why those aren't mechanics in the game though. No one wants to play an RPG and have to bench their tank because it got salmonella or something.

>>713661925
>appealed more to kids
This i can't understand. Digimon design were WAY cooler. Pokemon were basically a finger below animals.
>Anime was constantly running
Yeah but it was basically one plot line every 30 filler episode. Remind me of sailor moon.
>pumped out games like no ones business
Yeah nintendo's fault, as usual.

>>713661825
The first gen Pokemon games sold like crazy before Digimon started. It is a hopeless comparison.

>>713662170
they came out in the same year.

>>713662170
This i didn't know because in my country basically they came at the same time month more or less.

>>713602184 (OP)
You waifufags are such cringe worthy pathetic beta incel nerds. These Digimon look cool. If the series had more animal/machine designs like this and less of the weird wacky designs and obvious incelbait designs with the waifus I bet Digimon would have actually been properly competitive with Pokemon.

They should have went with like an organic vs machine "animals but not really" kind of theme for this franchise. Every time I look at it I always think how cool their machine/animal mons look but then how dumb the human-like and really weird designs look. Like that meme pic about how a cat turns into a fridge with machine guns. That has been the Digimon franchise and this is why it failed.

>>713662849
No.

I want mecha waifus and machinefus. Give me a borg angewomon with tubes popping out of her body. I love drone stuff.

>>713662990
It's odd we never gotten a robot girl digimon and machine digimon are almost entirely beastly and/or masculine. I guess you can say these sort of fill that niche.

>>713663219
The other ones that could possibly qualify are Queenchessmon and Eosmon Ultimate.

>>713663219
Yeah i have an uncanny fetish for female cyborgs and stuff like that.

>>713661825
>the kids felt real
Fo real it was adventure and fights then you had those moments when everything stopped and the "man those are just kids" hit like a truck. Like when they felt homesick and they just wanted to go home or when they felt the combat fatigue and acted well... like kids.

>>713660827
>>doesn't even train them
She didn't need to train them, she filled them with massive amounts of data.
(Translator's note, data means sex)

>>713602184 (OP)
wtf these look sick

>>713613878
>that cage digi
>the piranha
>the motorcycle
>the mohawk one
holy shiet

>>713663785
Yeah
Pokemon kids have always been weird stunted adults.
Digimon kids always felt like actual kids. They worry about things at the scale kids do, they have believable reactions to events or ordeals. They lash out with stress, and carry beliefs and philosophies they don't actually understand or believe in, they're what have been given to them by parents, teachers, siblings, or TV. They cut through that shit, to figure themselves out, too.
Fukkin
In Adventure, when Tai got to go home for a bit, the way he both crashed, and was restless because he wasn't okay, and the sort of, like detatched motions he was going through. I fukkin felt that. This kid is fucked up. He needs home and a hug.
Or Tamers, the kid intellect level deep plan to hide Guilmon, which holds up to absolutely zero scrutiny ever, but makes sense, it's what a kid would think up.

Imagine throwing a gomamon on a crowd of girls.

>>713664650
>when Tai got to go home for a bit
Was the episode when we saw kairi the first time? The one made like the movies? Man that was really hard considering they just came out beating the silly monkeyman and suddenly there were no fights just a kid and his little sister.
Also jesus christ everything around koushiro. Jesus christ man somebody help that kid before he starts crafting IEDs.

>>713664932
>Was the episode when we saw kairi the first time?
Yeah, that one.
You can feel how fucking jarring and weird it is to go through that whiplash, to have that moment where the kid starts questioning if any of what just happened was real, then the blob monster raiding his pantry reminds him.

>>713602184 (OP)
Second one KINDA looks first-generation Digimon-esque, especially with the smiling torpedos. But that first one is a nope from me, dawg.

>>713664650
>Or Tamers, the kid intellect level deep plan to hide Guilmon, which holds up to absolutely zero scrutiny ever, but makes sense, it's what a kid would think up.
not to mention the overall stress that Takato had during the whole finding Guilmon moment, just to break when seeing him staring up at the sky on the top of the school building

>>713664932
Being adopted myself i felt that kid. My parents told me when i was 16 so well it wasnt a *real* big deal but the feel that you were the trash of someone else never really goes away.

>>713664932
That episode felt like a dream sequence. Even ended with a short fight, and giant sky portal, and no one but the main characters see it.

>>713665231
Takato is 100% the best tamer or just the most realistic tamer to me. Not to mention that Guilmon is cute as shit the whole time.

TSUKAME! EGAITA YUME WO
MAMORE! DAIJI NA TOMO WO

Where the FUCK is Gundramon, though?

>>713666000
Beelko being in bumps his chances up a bit

Early kairi was cute as fuck.

>>713666000
A gun dragon, it's literally there in the name.

>>713666193
Now that you make me think about it we had also a sora here, but not the correct gender.

>>713665183
It is Skullgreymon but seadramon.

>>713666193
It's been 25 years. Most people who talk about Digimon are old and can't remember things correctly.

>>713613878
>The roboriders greymon
Kino

>>713666601
Fo real man i am 41 and i am watching now digimon in jap for the first time. I have so much confusion about names. Last time i saw that i was in... middle school i think.
I wish kids those days see this stuff.

>>713666886
Imagine TV series and stuff with Chinese or Korean names.

Sale tomorrow, which Digimon game should I get?

>>713602184 (OP)
Is that a fucking skull seadramon?

>>713667095
Unironically i have no trouble to remember those because if i see a name i remember it but for example the gay vampire for me way miyotismon not vamdermon or whatever the fuck or demidevimon really is picodevimon. Gato sexo for me was gatomon i have problem to identify her as "tailmon" lol. Also gatomon had really much sense a shitton of digimon have tails what is the deal?

>>713667270
yeah

>>713667202
CyberSleuths complete was $2 last sale, expect something similar this time (since scamco is going all in on this game)
Alternatively emulate any of the PS1 ones.

>>713667352
Neat

>>713602184 (OP)
>what the fuck went wron
they looked cool enough for me to click the thread in the catalogue, only to find you bitching about them OP

>>713667202
>Cyber Sluts is a pair of reasonably competent SMT clones, if you can stand generic Vita JRPG slop (not an insult, it's just the style of them) you'll find them quite enjoyable
>Next Order is a direct sequel to Digimon World, in an objective sense it's kinda shit but I still clocked >200h in it over three playthroughs because DW1 is my favourite game of all time and this is one of the only two other games like it so I loved it anyway (you probably won't)
>Survive is a decent VN and a shitty SRPG rolled into one

>>713667491
>SMT clones
No. There's no similarity to SMT beyond being turn based and having Suzuhito Yasuda doing the designs.

The digimon fucking around in tokyo was dope as fuck. Inverse isekai is cool.

>>713605567
/thread

>>713667668
>we'll never get a full movie about them

>>713667594
I argue that collecting demons and digimon through battle is very similar and the same comparison can be made with fusing demons and dedigivolving digimon - you're intended to play fast and loose with your monsters instead of growing attached to individual ones like in other competitors such as Pokemon. It also has similar status/element mechanics, a Tokyo aesthetic, and low budget, copy paste asset-filled dungeons filled with random battles. I hope you're not going to respond with "actually, it doesn't have press turn so it is NOTHING at ALL like SMT".

>>713664650
Digimon's season 1 in general is incredible. I highly encourage anyone who hasn't seen it since childhood to watch it as an adult, subbed. Through a more mature lens you get a much better grasp of everything and can appreciate its aims a lot more.
It's a really well directed show, episode 21 especially.

>>713667982
Just don't bother with the sequels.

>>713619536
crap ui like this is why digimon never takes off.
Seriously the perfect digimon game would be a fossil fighters clone + virtual daycare
instead of mining for fossils you mine code

>>713667982
People like to harp on the digimon having much less focus than the kids, but the focus has always been on the kids, and the purpose of the digimon themselves is a lot more subtle, but as a companion piece to the children.
The digimon embody each kid's virtue, which can also act as their vice. Taichi's courage can become aggression. Sometimes he expects too much of his team and doesn't understand their fears, for example. Agumon is always supportive of Taichi's courage, but immediately starts questioning him when he starts crossing the threshold. Since they're full of loyalty, they'll still go along with whatever the kids choose to do, but it's clear what the Digimon's aims are, what aspects they're receptive to most in the children.

I think Gabumon and his design in general are genius. He's clearly some kind of lizard wearing the pelt of a wolf, and while Yamato continuously tries his lone wolf thing, or tries to keep his friends safe while maintaining an aloof demeanor, it's clear it's not who he is underneath. Yet sometimes that persona is necessary and Gabumon evolves into wolf-themed forms, even one fully armored and covered in cold steel.
>>713668215
Yeah all the season 1 sequels are pretty bad, spare the Our War Game movie. Season 3 is also stellar though.

>>713667898
This image has further improved my day.

oblivimon is pretty cool

>>713667982
Didnt the guy who directed this go on to direct a bunch of aclaimed anime films? Even as a kid I could notice how weirdly well made it was

>>713668502
Mamoru Hosoda, yeah. Directed the first 2 Digimon OVAs and the CGI Grand Prix short and went on to better things, like remaking Our War Game.

For evolutions like Paildramon or Mastemon, Do I lose the two digimons or not?

>>713668738
Summer Wars was a pretty nice movie.
>>713668742
In Cyber Sleuth, you lose them yeah. You can only de-digivolve into one of the forms. For replays I have extras for sacrifice if I want.

>>713602184 (OP)
I like them, they look cool

NEW DIGIMON JUST DROPPED
https://digimon.net/topic/detail.php?id=1791

>>713669245
SEX

>>713605402
That was very clearly the intent back then, their food etc also all had like a .eat filetype

>>713667950
>I argue that collecting demons and digimon through battle is very similar and the same comparison can be made with fusing demons and dedigivolving digimon
You can try but that's the bare essentials of any monster tamer game. Hell, devolving isn't much of a thing in SMT while jogress is the only form in Digimon.
>It also has similar status/element mechanics
Not at all. When it comes to types and such Cyber Sleuth functions more like Pokemon in that your attribute and element are both taken into account much like dual typing is so you can have 4x effectiveness and .25x if you have both weaknesses and resistances.
Smt doesn't really take alignment into account, which is the closest thing to virus/vaccine/data/neutral, so it's only x2.
Not to mention your MC doesn't fight at all and there's a lack of multiple endings.
>a Tokyo aesthetic
That would be like calling Yokai Watch an SMT clone. Not to mention it's not like you explore much of Tokyo in CSHM compared to an SMT game.
Anyway, point is we're talking about gameplay here, not aesthetics.
>I hope you're not going to respond with "actually, it doesn't have press turn so it is NOTHING at ALL like SMT
Let's add that to the list then.

You clearly haven't played CS or SMT.

>>713602184 (OP)
>coomers think their opinions matter
Riddle me this. What was the last Digimon game you bought?
Thought so.

>>713669530
Evolution of Ranamon

>>713669245
>Cool skelly Seadramon
>Cool robo shark
>Cute fish waifu
DEEP SAVERS CHADS CAN'T STOP WINNING

>>713669559
Cyber Sleuth!

>>713669604
except it's a mega/ultimate, so now it's competing with that slot with Shagaramon

should have been a ultimate/perfect to bridge the two, but apparently it's intended to be an alt evo for Marinbullmon because god forbid people have to make do with Ryugumon and not a waifumon even though that's already a big shift into being pretty and serene as is

>>713603812
And your point is?

>>713612298
>Give me more cool robot nazi dinosaurs.
Only if they also make Dapper Digimons.

>>713667950
>and the same comparison can be made with fusing demons and dedigivolving digimon -
What the fuck are you talking about? Fusing and digivolving work in completely different ways.

>>713602184 (OP)
The thing on the left looks stupid but the one on the right does a reasonable approximation of the original style

>>713670250
The thing on the left is SkullSeadramon, and it's in the same design style as SkullGreymon

>>713670405
I know, but it doesn't do a good job of emulating the original

>>713604607
I just hate that Digimon would rather make abominations like Gundramon than cuties like Agumon or Gabumon.

Crap is cursed; Digimon now are just knights, dragons, and anime girls; it Yu-Gi-Oh all over again.

>>713670797
Lookin Good Gatomon

>>713670797
Why are you against your digimon becoming this: the best thing ever?

>>713602184 (OP)
Ive literaly never played a Digimon game ouside of the OG virtual pet but was a big fan of the show. Is my girl Arukenimon ever gonna show up again and will they ever give her an actual Mega form?

>>713605402
Agu.mon
Gabu.mon
Biyo.mon
MattDa.mon

>>713670976
Yeah in the trailer, you can see one that's wasted. And probably not. Also, you should check out the Digimon X. It's a really good virtual pet.

>>713602184 (OP)
What if…..

>>713613878
Gotta agree. I stopped following the series after Tamers but every time K would look at new shit I really hated the designs. They all looled like FF rejects or something made specifically to appeal to homosexual furies. Monsters are what got me into this series as a kid and waifus like Angiewomon and LadyDevimon and Arukenimon should be an occasional treat not the baseline cuz that shit gets boring fast.

>>713670952
it's just so...busy, cluttered, overdesigned. If my Torracatmon evolved into this, I'd riot

>>713671303
I don't think this is the franchise for you. Have you played Yo-kai Watch? I get the feeling you would be more in tune with that. (not a insult btw I like those games)

>>713621864
>All my digitama nazis, data heil Agu!

>>713671436
I never played Yo-Kai Watch but I know what it is. Their creatures are... unique, but...

...you know what, maybe I WILL play it.

luv dinomons
luv robomons
luv knightmons
luv waifumons
'ate recolormons.

>>713644301
From the staff of a few card shops I occasionally visit
>Pokemon is the king of games; full lots of kids play it
>Yugioh is on a slow decline
>Digimon is small but picking up
>One Piece is played by stoners (too popular to cancel)
>Magic simply exists

>>713671657
Cool. Try to start with 2: Psychic Specters. 1 isn't bad but 2 is just better, also the sequel recycles a fuck ton of shit from the original so you won't miss a thing.

>>713602184 (OP)
at least digimons still look like digimons, consider that a blessing

>>713645421
The Ryo (WonderSwan) games said that the Digital World was created by the Atanasoff–Berry computer, then shaped by ENIAC. As more computers continue to contribute to the web, they shape the digital world. So yes, more waifu drawings = more waifu digimon.

>>713670552
Except the philosophy is the same.
It does MegaSeadramon’s Thunder Javelin in a different way. Like SkullGrey sharing MetalGrey’s missile gimmick

>>713663219
Dianamon?

>>713672481
no kaguyamon

>>713666000
Obsolete. Revolvers have no place in an assault rifle world.

>>713673074
1v1 at high noon, pardner.

>>713669530
SEEEEEEX

>>713673858
This is why you're just a deputy rather than the sheriff, loser.

>>713674342
But people shoot sheriffs but they don't shoot deputies.

>>713674170
Koki...

>>713674621
Yeah, because losers aren't worth shooting.

>>713669530
>>713674170
move Ariemon to the breeding zone

>>713675482
So what is the meaning of the name? My first thought was the heroine from the Disney movie, but that seems like it wouldn't clear legal.

>Ariemon won't be in Time Stranger
>Probably nothing from before 2020

Does anyone else feel sad? I feel sad.

>>713675776
Maybe Time Stranger: Outlaw Memory or something

>>713675557
As long as it's not 1:1 and they're not obvious about it, there's enough plausible deniability to prevent lawsuits, especially since she's not even a mermaid. Cendrillmon's mouse army was clearly inspired by the Disney film as well.

>>713675776
If it shows up in some Chinese mobile game, there's a good chance someone will mod it in Time Stranger. And there's always future DLC.

>>713675557
Looks like Arie is from a Yokai, it's a prophet beast/mermaid thing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amabie
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8_%28%E5%A6%96%E6%80%AA%29

Well, considering 2020 was also the year of the Reboot, maybe this'll finally be the game where Omegamon is good.

>>713676106
This makes sense. Thanks. Even lines up with Shellmon since that also is an aquatic yokai.

digi-bros, I'm close to finally breaking down and buying a v-pet. what's a good one to pick up? I'll probably have to ebay it because afaik there's absolutely nothing for sale in my area.
They're watches now? I don't really want a watch, I'd rather get a classic tamagotchi style

>>713677807
I would recommend the Digital Monster 20th or Digimon X then. Depending on the model you should still be able to find those on Amazon or whatever for $20 or less.

>>713677807
I was going to link you to a Digimon X listing but it seems they're all sold out.

>>713678020
>>713678218
cool, I'll check them out
do they have any in colour yet or is it all still b&w? from what I've seen it's all b&w. not a deal breaker, just curious

>>713613878
Agreed. Whoever is in charge of the designs as of recent (2020+) should stay in charge.
>>713661825
I think the games being better and easier to follow helped a lot. Also Pokemon are usuaully much cuter and friendly without any egy or lewd designs involved.

>>713678341
Digimon Version Colors exist, but they're much more expensive and Monster Hunter/Godzilla.

>>713669530
https://youtu.be/UHmFbT8DPX8

>>713604145
How did they manage that anyway? Do they actually have the same designers still working in the company or did fans get hired and actually pay attention to the original art style?

>>713675776
Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory kept adding lots of digimon months after release.

>cool mecha digimon
>100% virus
I always end up running nothing but virus type digimons.

Cyber Sleuth should have ended with the protagonist becoming Alphamon's assistant in the Digital World.

>>713678652
Kenji Watanabe and As'maria still create digimon designs, they never left

>>713678801
thats because virus is the coolest attribute kek

>>713678801
For me, it's always almost all data in the midgame, almost all virus in the end.

Who's the coolest knightmon?

>>713679175
Hexeblaumon

>>713660237
I think that's duel masters

>>713679385
this guy looks cool until you realize he's pink and has pigtails

>>713669530
>another waifumon
I spoke too soon.

I'd like to see a skull version of a waifumon.

>>713681010
Like this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Calavera_Catrina

>>713681010
This is the one I've seen fanart of before, but I wonder if a withered plant would be more interesting.

>>713602184 (OP)
>badass monsters
Nice, fuck the excessive waifushit.

>>713670976
i got good news for you, not only is Arukenimon in the game, but also her buddy Mummymon is in the game.
They were both shown as NPCs in the digimon town hub talking to each other

>>713663219
I know only few people played the DS story games but there is a machine waifumon there, Queenchessmon

>>713681010
Algonquianmon when?

>>713605692
>Digimon went through a long period where they pumped out almost nothing but bland waifumons and generic dudes in armor
For how long though and can I see them? I only know of the Digimon designs of the 90s and nothing else.

>>713605692
Doesn't get better than knights. Literally the peak of form and function.

>>713669530
>Jellymon's final evolution if her partner was Ruri

>>713602184 (OP)
You saying I can have a cool metal shark submarine thing as a life friend companion?
That's fucking amazing! How is digimon not fucking pokemon in the ass?

I know only of the first anime, are all the series connected? How do I know if it's a different universe altogether? And which series does Renamon come from because to this day I never understood how this one character just fucking exploded with furries.

>>713684565
>are all the series connected
No.
>which series does Renamon come from
Tamers.

>>713602184 (OP)
It's unreal how Watanabe still has it after all these years. You'd think he would've retired/moved on, his designs would change, or that Bandai would hire someone else in his stead, but no. He has consistently pumped out kino for 30~ fucking years.

>>713684565
>How do I know if it's a different universe altogether?
Typically either they'll feature the same characters or they're just in the same vague multiverse. The only ones I know that are confirmed to be directly connected is the DS Story games (before Cyber Sleuth) and Digimon Data Squad, everything else is just kinda it's own thing or a sequel like Adventure and Adventure 02.

>>713683987
It got bad in the Frontier era. In that show they tried to do a Tokusatsu thing but instead of making shit that looks cool like the undead from Kamen Rider Blade or the yo-kai from Kakuranger they made really lame peoplemon. The Savers era was better because it gave us digimon Rizegreymon and Loaderleomon, but it also delivered Shinegreymon and Ravenmon. Then in the xros and appmon era like 75% of the digimon were ass and lame. There's some cool ones like madleomon but fucks like shoutmon and all his parts don't have charm. But after an era of not enough to get a name, Pendulum Zs delivered a course correction and a lot of great-looking monsters. Which leads into the Ghost Game era we're in now until Beat Break drops in October. It's pretty hit or miss honestly, but the hits hit hard enough to cover up for the misses.
>>713684565
02 is a direct sequel, but everything else is its own story. Usually they'll just say/show it. Renamon is from Tamers.

>>713684738
wait so.. its the SAME digimon artist from the beginning until now? he did all the designs?
pretty damn impressive

>>713620004
It cannot be stressed enough how GODAWFUL the SRPG elements in that game are. It would've been better off as a pure VN.
The VN bits aren't good either with more than half the characters being retarded is what drives the story forward. Pic related is especially insufferable.

>>713684905
>Which leads into the Ghost Game
Is that the one with that yandere female Digimon where she went small to fucking huge? So you had this shota laying with an orange furry twice his size in bed? If it is from that, does she return later?

>>713685580
It is the one where a mon tries to cut off all its monster bits to look more like a waifumon.

>>713684905
I think Xros Wars gets more flak than it deserves. It was nice to go back to a kind of slapstick style writing in Xros Wars even if the rest wasn't great, and the fusion gimmick allowed a lot of lower tier Digimon to be used in the story as well. I liked Darknightmon and the Aeroplane Greymon a lot too.

>>713685069
Almost all designs. I believe a good chunk of x-antibody designs were done by AZMA, but otherwise it's all Kenji.

>>713613878
man, i might never understand digimon, but it's got a groove all it's own

>>713684350
WarGreymon would fuck this thing up.

>>713685973
All variants were drawn by someone else. Watanabe drew most of the non-variants like Alphamon.

>>713688779
There were a few exceptions though. Gaioumon was originally supposed to be BlackWarGreymon X, but I think Watanabe said it was a shame for it to just be stuck as a variant, so it was made into its own mon while BlackWarGreymon X became a recolor.

>>713688617
That thing has royal knights tier power. It would break Wargreymon's spine on its knee.

>>713688617
>>713688979
You're both weak and pathetic, step aside and let a REAL Greymon handle this.

>>713613878
>dude on the bottom right corner
Duck King is that you?

>>713688979
>>713689069

>>713689069
>trades out iconic Dramon Killers for a generic sword
>Dumb-looking shield design
>Ugly helmet

>>713689151
>evolution requirements for VictoryGreymon are just "be eligible for Wargreymon but win more than he does"
It's a losing battle by default, anon.

>get digimon cybersleuth on switch for cheap
>start new game
>3 minutes into unskippable cutscene
>uninstall
what digimon games aren't like this?

>>713689569
Nah, it's lame. It's just a dumb OC by an egotistical author who wanted to make the original obsolete with his own design. But he failed. Not only is his variant uglier, it doesn't even have a fraction of the popularity and his manga was poorly-written trash.

>>713689620
tragic adhd-anon

>>713689689
there's literally no reason for cutscenes to be unskippable

>>713689639
You are a sad man.

>>713685898
No, it gets the appropriate amount of shit. The series was garbage.

>>713689804
he's right though, there's nothing worse than an "author" writing, "this is just X, but cooler".

>>713678387
>Pokemon are usuaully much cuter
But they *don't* have gomamon.

>>713690278
Matt Ward would like to know your location.

>>713685898
nah, it was shit. I watched like 2 episodes of Xros wars and it was so bad it made me want to go back and give Savers a second chance, and i thought Savers was the stupidest thing when i first saw it.

>>713685898
>>713690125
This, Digimon series works better when aiming towards a slightly older audience rather than chase the tone of Pokemon or whatever kids monster catching serieed popular atm

>>713690278
It doesn't matter whether he's right or not, nobody is talking about that. He's just whining.

>>713668738
>Terry Bogard Rabbit beats up a bunch of digimon before the world is saved in a game of Koi koi
this movie had no right being as good as it was.

>>713690365
There's a small amount of justice in the world, in that the Grey Knights are now a preposterous, stupid organization in 40K that are just strictly worse at their single job than the Sisters of Silence, cost considerably more to the Imperium to keep than the Sisters of Silence, and if any Knight starts looking at the Sisters for armor paint, their Custodes boyfriends will fold them faster than they sent that shipment of Cawl's meat toasters back for faulty assembly.

>>713689151
i havent seen this movie (or remake or whatever) , but why is Wargreymon fucking HUGE like a damn building? Taichi is tiny.
the fucking hell is going on here?!

>>713602184 (OP)
They honestly look sick
I can't wait for them to evolve into cute waifus!

>>713690905
he's made of data anon, they just downloaded more RAM.

>>713690937
left probably evolves FROM a cute waifu.

>>713690937
Seadramon-chan would be cute.

>>713668449
>and the purpose of the digimon themselves is a lot more subtle
The moment you realize they are basically pet teraphy for children that needed it is the moment you understand life.
Palmon was too much of an enabler tho and probably keishiro needed a more lassez-faire digimon.

>>713669604
>Sexo evolves in more sexo.
I love digimon.

>>713690905
In the 2020 reboot, they made most of the Digimon much larger starting from the Perfect stage so that their human partners can be with them whenever they fought. It becomes increasingly uncommon for the human partners to stand on the ground during combat. Taichi is pretty much always riding on Greymon when it fights, and in order to keep that up, WarGreymon had to be massive.

>>713690968
>RAM joke
missed opportunity to do a 480p to 4k DLSS upscale joke

>>713690905
They were always huge as fuck birdramon and ikkakumon were way bigger than an house. The kabuterimon evolution leveled a mountan and the vamp castle alone. I honestly miss the kaiju fights. An unleashed greymon in reality made enough damage to justify a terrorist bombing cover.

>>713691365
That's mega retarded, but i genuinely believe it.

>>713642309
Honestly if you fuck your partner once, I don't think what form they're in after is going to be that much of a deterrent for either party.

>>713691515
Yeah , but while Greymon and especially Metalgreymon WERE huge, Wargreymon was very small in the original anime.
Felt more like a suoer powerful humanoid that way, not some titan monster like others.

Is there any difference between a male or female protagonist on the digimon games? Or is just a skin?

>>713691551
It's true. Taichi is almost never on the ground during fight scenes. It's almost always riding on top of Metal/WarGreymon.

There are some exceptions though. Lilimon doesn't change much at all, but Rosemon is fucking massive. Mimi is always nestled in its cleavage.

>>713668449
Yeah
The Digimon are usually just extensions and foils of the kid's own character arcs and development. Forms are achieved when the kids find something in them, or find an answer to a problem, or suddwnly understand some layer of nuance to their values. As standalones, most of them are utter nothingburger characters, they get their chops from the kid pairing. Somewhere between a raw, unfocused ideal of the kids' virtue, a Jiminy Cricket pulling them towards what they need, and a contrasting foil to the virtue being taken too far, as the situation requires.
Except Gatomon. I don't know, and don't care how much of that snark was dubshit only, she was fukkin great on her own.

>>713691734
>Mimi is always nestled in its cleavage
You best not be pulling my leg anon!!
Thats it, Im watching the fucking reboob anime.

>>713604607
The most intelligent take i've ever seen on digimon.
Pokemon died the day they started to make litterally every digimon the same with a stupid recolor, the big differences between tits, guns, cute animals and dinosaurs (and absolute nonsense like the shitmons) is what make digimon cool.

>>713602184 (OP)
They were overplayed. These at least look like
Digital monsters

>these model kits were scrapped
Pain

>>713669530
I appreciate girlmons that are more monstrous instead of just humans with shit slapped on.
Lamiamon as well.

>>713691515
Wargreymon and MetalGarurumon were always on the smaller side, heck MetalGarurumon wasn't much bigger than regular Garurumon.

>>713691825
>Pokemon died the day they started to make litterally every digimon the same stupid recolor
Im sure you meant "Digimon died" lol.
But yeah everyone hates the recolors trash.

I want to play a digimon game. What's one in the last 10 years that's pretty good. I've played the OG World games, and more recently the first Cyberslueth and that psuedo remake of DW1. Anything more recent if not?

>>713691907
Holy shit those two designs look BADASS as fuck.
Especially Angemon "armor mode" lol

>>713691941
Wow fuck me i really forget stuff. Better watch it again before the game release.

>>713692008
I mean, it's kinda more of the same, as Cyber Sluts, but Hacker's Memory actually has a pretty fukkin kino story.
It's a good pick

>>713691907
Metal devilmon is cool but i would rather have a cyborg form.

>>713692008
>What's one in the last 10 years that's pretty good
Theres nothing else anon lol.
Cybersleuth and Next order were the more recent ones the past decade, then theres that stupid VN Digimon survive.
Why do you think most Digimon fans are starving for a new digimon game? we barely get any good shit

>>713692008
Dawn/Dusk
>bu-but last ten-
Dawn/Dusk.

>>713692008
CS and HM are the latest JRPG ones unfortunately. There's Next Order if you want to try a Vpet one again but that's also from 2016.

>>713692075
You gotta remember they are kids too, even the older ones like Matt and Tai aren't done growing here. But you are right in that other Digimon were allowed to be massive in the anime, including both bad and good guys.

>>713669245
>https://digimon.net/topic/detail.php?id=1791
>>713669530
You fucks had me excited for nothing... this doesnt say she's in the new game... :/
I hope she is, and it's cool that she's mega level too

>>713692231
Yeah, Next Order I also played. That appears to be the remake of World I alluded to. Maybe it wasn't explicitly a remake, but I remember it even having similar areas. Might be misremembering. It was fun.

>>713692183
I'll take a look. Are any of the Wonder swan games good?

>>713692113
That looks good and is on steam.
>>713692159
I feel you. I'm a Monster Rancher fan from back in the day, and I basically waited 15 years and then got the rereleases of 1/2. Which, I loved. I love Monster Rancher the most.

>>713692183
Infact he should play Digimon World DS, Lost Evolution and specifically Dusk. Love those games, infact I'm gonna replay Lost Evolution now.

>>713671223
why does reptile/dinosaur become fish? you have aquatic rookies.

>>713691907
We did eventually get a model of normal Angemon, but still no Devimon, sadly.

>>713682742
All chessmons are puppet type.

>>713691960
One or two could have been interesting, and I could see it being done well.
But then it wasn't done well, and was just a bunch of lazy recolors.
Like, if the ONLY recolors, were for the actual shitmons, like platinum sukamon, I think that would actually be hilarious.
I think it would have been way more interesting, if instead of just, y'know, recolors, it was much more visually some kind of like, convergent evolution. Some obviously different base, evolving into a similar form. Not LITERALLY just blue Leomon, but if it was instead like, I dunno, a squid or sea lion kinda taking on those Leomon features. That could be cool. Certain forms are prestigious, so unrelated things try to resemble them. Something like that.
Anything besides literally blue Leomon.

>>713692183
Not him, but is Dawn/Dusk really worth a try?
Ive been craving a game a little like Cybersleuth in combat and evolution.
Should i try Dusk/dawn or Digimon world 3 instead?

>>713692385
I would kill to see rana again i loved her.

>>713692507
The ONLY "recolor" so to speak that i liked was Black Wargreymon (and he had a decent story in Adventure 02)... but yeah miss me with all the other recolors bullshit

>>713692690
The bulk of recolors are actually stuff from video games and shit. Alraumon, for instance, was just a discolored enemy version of Palmon in Digimon World. These recolors were then made into real Digimon later on. Similar things seem to have happened for the card games.

MetalGreymon (Vaccine) and BlackWarGreymon were probably the first legitimate recolors created explicitly designed for story purposes.

>>713692798
>MetalGreymon (Vaccine)
You mean Virus.
But yeah i hear you

>>713692513
It hit the monster collector itch in my brain HARD. Played it religiously in between Dragon Quest Monster releases.
I like it better than Cyber Sluts too in that your digimon aren't locked into predetermined stat growths.

I hated the foreshadowing of the cartoon in general.
>Show all the evolved form in the intro INCLUDING angemon.
He litterally shows himself for 2 seconds at the end of the first arc and all the point of patamon was "why the fuck he doesn't evolve" just keep the mistery.
>Show hikari is the 8th child 10 episodes before the reveal there is another chosen child.
I forgive them just because that episode was awesome.
>Show gatomon evolving in angewomon in the ending 20 episodes before you see the evolution
Brah really.

>>713692842
No, Virus came first. Vaccine was a later addition.

>>713692843
Hmm , should i just skip the "DIgimon DS" game altogether and jump into Dawn or Dusk?
is one better than the other? i know next to nothing about the DS Digimon games

>>713692879
Oh wow, really? so the blue colored Metalgreymon debuted BEFORE the typical vaccine Metalgreymon?
well guess you learn new stuff everyday huh. interesting

>>713691941
>MetalGarurumon wasn't much bigger than regular Garurumon
MetalGarurumon was much smaller than regular Garurumon.
Compare Matt riding on Garurumon to Matt riding on MetalGarurumon.

>>713692443
The theme is:
Terrestrial Rookie and Champion -> Airborne/Aquatic Perfect -> SemiAirborne/SemiAquatic Mega

>>713693060
Yeah. The only reason Vaccine exists was so there could be a "good guy" variant to serve as Taichi's partner.

>>713692857
lol you're thinking too much into it anon, even tho i see your points.
Then again , it could also be done in a way to build hype and anticipation for the viewers. The whole "oh shit i cant wait to see THAT happen soon" type of reactions

It is my belief that all digimon ends with Mon cause it's their file name like,PNG jpeg and so on

>>713693150
So B.Wargreymon was supposed to come first then

>>713692513
The DS game combat isn't quite like CS. The battles take place on a field with 5 spots for each side, the enemy and yours. Different skills have different strike zones and you can place your Digimon in any of the 5 slots, meaning your party placement matters a lot. Do you keep them bunched together for easy support buffs, or spread them apart so the enemy doesn't hit everyone at once? Stuff like that. Buffs and Debuffs are still important, but it's a lot less like SMT in general.
All of the DS games are pure soul, they even have a consistent Digital World that you see grow over the course of multiple games with recurring major and minor characters.

>>713693116
Gizamon > Coelamon

>>713693178
Meh i just don't like spoilers for the sake of spoilers. You could just frame takeru seeing a blinding light in the intro or a shadow of some wings. Angewomon in the ending was stupid, ok you could guess hikari will warm up to gatomon and viceversa but showing her as angewomon, considering angemon obliterated devimon as an ultimate weapon in the first arc, you really burned the finishing line early. Gatomon could evolve in litterally anything but you already know like... 20 episodes before the ending. At least i was saved by that, in my country we had the intro but the ending were re-done.
And yes i probably think too much of those but i really loved digimon with my heart.

>>713692971
Never played DS so I can't say, but from what it looks Dawn/Dusk is just a refinement on that. So unless you really care about the stories I think it's safe to skip.

Needs a final form.

>>713693321
I see, so a bit more focused on battle formations. Sounds decent to me.
Guess ill start with Digimon Dusk, i assume it has more digimons or better gameplay that Digimon DS

>>713693467
I was gonna say something hateful to you, but then i saw the filename. kek
Almost had me

>>713604012
nta
It's obviously a joke, since they are supposed to look like monsters and not waifus like many we were getting.

>>713692971
Dawn/Dusk is technically the sequel to World DS, but the main plots can be played as standalone titles. You miss out on the lore explanations for some things, but you'll still understand everything that's happening. The play order doesn't matter really and Dawn/Dusk are arguably the best Story games, since Lost Evolution has a divisive evolution system with plates that you often need to farm for.

>>713693496
Dusk is the better starting point, but I think DS has the better story and final boss + postgame segments.

>>713693467
Flashy jacket and pants 80's yakuza style because he hit big in shibuya.

>>713616592
you should consume devil chips
NOW

>>713663219
Queenbeemon is an Android type.

>>713693467
An even shinier one

>>713621895
BUT THEN YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS EVOLINE WRONG ONE DAY CUZ OF THAT.
AND THEN YOU'LL MISREMEMBER IT ON ACCIDENT

>>713693467
This is how I Gotsumon.
The dinosaur situation at the perfect level is absolutely dire. You are stuck with Tricera and Mastertyrano.

>>713693467
Make a 4th and then give them a fusion that requires putting all of them together ala mumboh-jumboe

>>713602184 (OP)
>skull seadramon

Digimon needs to crossover with SMT already.

For me it's Numemon.
I just think he's neat.

>>713694393
How do you feel about his more RADICAL form?

>>713694194
Hell yeah
>>713694393
POST TITS NOW.

>>713671067
>Party-Le.mon

>>713681862
That's a pretty metal design. Would love to see something like it made official.

>>713619072
The royal knights are cool, just overused

>>713619072
Only filthy fucking furfags consider knights shit. You aren't a filthy fucking furfag, right?

New Monkey

>>713696803
I want to have SEX with that monkey