>It's not the devs, it's parasitic greedy managers and CEOs that are destroying the AAA gaming industry
>Meanwhile the average dev from the said company:
It’s always the devs. CEOs only care about making money, and game devs actively come up with parasitic shit to generate profits and defend them.

Charlie did a video directly on him. He's officially hit internet main character status.

>>713660728 (OP)
Is Heartbound good?

>>713660728 (OP)
BEGONE JUDAS

>>713660728 (OP)
Giuda.

>Stop Killing Minorities
No, I dont think I will.

>>713660728 (OP)
Cracks me up how he got owned on Asges of Creation

this dude is unironically gay btw
legitimately gay
someone aired his shitty furry rp dms some time ago

hilarious how his steam reviews have been plummeting since before this week too

>>713660805
hard to tell since its still unfinished and hasn't been updated in 8 years.

the only reason it hasn't been marked as abandoned by steam is because he added a sound file that was already in the game to evade it

I hate PirateSoftware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAFZnJPtvDg

>>713660728 (OP)
This hack didn't develop shit. He's actually the director of strategy of Rivals 2 i.e. the greedy manager position you were talking about.

>Never hear of this faggot for YEARS
>Start seeing his YouTube shorts in my feed
>You niggers all start talking about him afterwards
Solipsism is reality. You niggers are just a figment of my imagination and only bring up things AFTER I've become aware of them.

>>713660728 (OP)

>>713660728 (OP)
Even if Ross's initiative fails I hope it at least brings this faggot into the lolcow abyss and actually keeps him there forever.

>>713661058
You're literally words on my screen, noob. Git gud.

>>713661058
Looks like you were spoonfed the How and Why of this whole situation but are being moronic

Careful, he'll ERP with your underage son or daughter if you talk ill of him.

>>713660789
>internet main character
more like main lolcow

>>713660728 (OP)
No shit.
Game developers are by far the worst and the most emotionally unstable and parasitic people of all other software developer groups.
It wasn't like this 15-20 years ago because they were actually doing shit and had responsibilities.

>>713660728 (OP)
>>713660789
What has he done now? Give me a QRD of any recent happening involving him pls

>>713661115
>>713661130
>Figment malding that it doesn't really exist

They really do love each other.

>>713661305
>this gay attempt at a thread derail

>>713660728 (OP)
I feel he's managing the game then coding it as he has no game developing history and what he does on stream is practically nothing and just talks.

>>713661281
He actually hasn't done anything in almost a year. The stopkillinggames faggots are just butthurt their retarded movement is failing and they're looking for a target for their ire.

>>713661370
>NOOOO PAPA I'MMA REAL BOYYYYY!!!!
You cease to exist as soon as I close the web page, lmao.

>>713661417
Alright, who let the ferret use the computer?

>>713661417
me when i pretend faggots like asmongold dont affect public perception these days, covering news and talking to 50k people at once

>>713661281
He keeps doubling, tripling down on his retarded anti-consumer takes and even got charlie in a private call and still continued to not accept fault

>>713661281
He is a massive corposhill and gamers got mad at him, his ego couldn't take that and started attacking everyone on twatter.

>>713660728 (OP)
>>713661016
>look up what games he has made since he is known as a developer and his opinions seem to be respected due to his credentials
>Undertale ripoff shovelware
>Uplink ripoff shovelware
why do people take this guy seriously? He has less credit than the extra credits guy that supposedly worked for every studio ever.

>>713661348
Asmon is such a sneaky fuck, it's why he defended Piratesoftware so much becuase he sees they're a mirror of each other.

>>713661348
i'm surprised she can tolerate him. it must be hard to be in a relationship with a narcissist

Can someone tell me what is going on with this guy?
I know he played wow and didn't help some dudes in his party and they died, playing frost mage too, I played that spec to death, I watched the clip and I know he could've done way more. Also he's linked to that European petition, I signed it, but if he's American how are we supposed to know about him? This guy is a literal who in Europe. I also don't know what he did besides the wow shit.

Post him in the banana costume

>>713661281
he blatantly lied about what it's all about making it sound like some insanely entitled bullshit movement
now other ecelebs are calling him out for not even knowing what it's about and still talking about it and shitting on it
thor basically doubled down and refuses to admit he was wrong and keeps defending his strawman arguments
overall he seems like an extremely narcissistic smug cunt who is actually retarded or just simply malicious and will not admit whenever he's wrong about anything

>>713660789
Dude is full shitting on him in that video kek. Mainstream lolcow now.

>>713661613
Got really popular from the youtube short format where he would talk about his opinions on game dev stuff by drawing boxes in Ms Paint. He was charismatic enough about it that people started upholding him as an authority on game development.

>>713661613
He did nothing. He just successfully gamed the algorithm and got into people's feeds, but because he's a pompous furfag and a chronic liar he is an easy target for drama vultures. Not to defend him of course.

>>713661613
he's just the type of nigga you love to hate

>>713661857
stop spreading misinformation thats not whats happening dipshit

Remember to thank the BASED mods for deleting these off topic eceleb discord shill threads

>>713661985
Judas Ferret spotted

>>713661809
>other ecelebs are calling him out for not even knowing what it's about and still talking about it
That's his entire persona. That was his entire career. That is, if you believe the evidence compiled, his entire life. The man has built a throne at the peak of the bell curve and turns his nose up at both ends of it.

>>713661923
Uh oh, looks like I'm about to enter the fuck around and find out timeline...

>>713661985
its gaming related so there is no reason for it to be removed.

stop killing games is about game preservation and this asshole trying to stop it.

>>713661058
I mean it doesnt help he forced himself into all of our faces by gaming the algo

>>713660789
>Charlie's latest video
I'm laughing so fucking hard he's cooking him so hard this is incredible
I hope he goes after asmongold next for defending thor like a fucking moron.

>>713661348
Can't tell if this is Asmon or Ross desu

>>713661613
PirateSoftware
>got a job at Blizzard thanks to his dad being a higher up in the animation department
>left eventually and made a game that didn't sell well
>started a Twitch and Youtube channel where his schtick was being the 'blizzard dev guy' and told #hilarious #relatable stories about game dev
>eventually kickstarts another game called Heartbound that isn't done after 8 years because he streams more than he does game dev despite being the game dev guy
>makes a video about StopKillingGames where his takes were wrong, then his audience got mad at him and he doubled down
>a few months later in a streamer WoW guild raid where if you die you lose your character, he sacrifices his entire party and refuses to help them so he can escape and save his character
>this leads to a big drama where people find out he used to be big in the secondlife community as a furry where there were posts about him having a massive ego from 20 years ago
>a literal therapist goes on stream and tells him he has an ego and he goes "no i don't fuck you"
He's just become another internet laughing stock like Asmongold.

>>713661613
>Can someone tell me what is going on with this guy?
an old game dev who never actually worked as a game developer who gamed YouTube shorts algorithms where he talks about game development.
Also, loves shilling for big corpos, like he is blackmailed or some shit. he really acts super weird every time he is forced to say something about parasitic corpo practices.

>>713661070
>Considers himself right about everything and everyone else is wrong
>Thinks his way is the only way
>Misrepresents arguments so he can win more easily
>Complains on Twitter when he's proven to be wrong
Yep. He's a Blizzard employee, alright.

>>713662101
Asmongold isnt completely retarded compared to Moist Fencesitter and at this point the ghoul probably has a bigger audience

>>713660728 (OP)
I have yet to hear what sounds like non idiotic, organic criticism of Stop Killing Games.

>>713660728 (OP)
>the average dev
>It’s always the devs
You've a posted one case of an unlikeable faggot who is a known liar

>>713662180
>Moist Fencesitter
is he really a fence sitter, or is it just he doesnt really have much of an actual opinion like normies generally do?

>>713662126
>He's just become another internet laughing stock like Asmongold.
He's about to become the most successful streamer in the world?

>board that hates videogames and wants the industry to die
>shilling "stop killing games"

>>713662163
now we just have to wait for a sexual harassment accusation

>>713662180
Yeah but even Asmons own audience were shitting on him during his reaction, he got so booty blasted he mass banned a bunch of people, so if he uploads the video to Youtube it'll make him look like an uninformed retard because he literally repeats the same misconception the Piratesoftware said SKG is about, about developers having to support live several games and keep the servers online.

>>713661985
There is nothing off-topic about this thread.
That faggot and other game devs like him are the reasons for what is happening to the modern AAA gaming industry.

>>713662180
I agree, charlie is normally a fence sitting fuck that only parrots the most popular opinion at the time
Which is why it's even MORE hilarious how he has the right take this time completely shitting on Pirate while Asmongold was too up his own ass to see what a malicious asshole Pirate was being.

>>713662384
Doesnt matter
Reports are spammed by bots
Moderation is done by bots

>>713661523
He'd also spout some objectively stupid shit which even the casual nodev redditors following him should have picked up on. "Don't make placeholder art because your playtests might not report any still left in the game before release"? Like what else are you supposed to do, finish all of the assets before you implement anything? Fucking retarded.

>>713662334
>the whole board is one guy

friendly reminder you can just summarize videos into single paragraphs now and don't have to sit through the entire video drawn out to 10+ minutes for more ad slots

>>713662334
no we don't were critical of gamin becuase we have better standards when it comes to games and don't just accept slop like you do.

go play your low quality trash

>>713662126
heh, had to look up the therapy shit. It's pretty good. Dude's literally incapable of ever admitting he's in the wrong.

>>713660728 (OP)
i hate eceleb shit as much as everyone but he was right in the wow fiasco and was used as escapegoat by the other retards who wanted to escapegoat their shit shotcalling

>>713662481
now that's what we call cope

>>713661523
He's a nepobaby who spent a shitton of money to promote shorts in which he gave entry level coding advice and insincere positivity. That shit is like crack for midwits.

>>713662479
web name?

>>713662180
>Moist Fencesitter
Asmongold is bigger fencesitter than every react channel on YouTube combined. At least Charlie had the balls to actually call the gay furry out while everyone else was busy glazing him just because him and his dad were Blizzard employees.

>>713662312
I don't think people would find living in squalor and using a dead rat as an alarm clock successful, but numbers are numbers.

>>713662506
>he was right in the wow fiasco

>>713662390
never thought I'd see that faggot fence sitter having more integrity than the ex-wow jewish asset

>>713662590
perplexity.ai
don't have to sign up or anything either

>>713661237
game devs who only use game engines aren't real programmers. they literally have no idea how to code, I'm not talking about clean code, that's just something unachievable for a game dev.

did we learn nothing from internet bullying ?

My property.

>>713660728 (OP)
I still don't understand what kind of pathetic faggot you must be to defend any big corporation.
never understood those kinds of people.

>Be e-celeb
>Status gets to your head
>Have a really shitty opinion on subject you either know or don't know
>Become lolcow
Many such cases

>>713662974
A shareholder

>>713661512
post a link to proof of piratesoftware talking about stopkillinggames any time in the past 6 months

go ahead, I'll wait

>>713661103
Realistically there should be a mandate for GaaS titles with a certain revenue to publish a buy to play version should the title end for whatever reason. This can be a sum withheld by platforms like the App Store or as a good will agreement where the developer can receive a reimbursement if they publish it of their own accord. It’s not even difficult to do this is work that even a mod monkey could manage given access to the assets. Anybody saying it’s a burden or overreaching is incredibly stupid lazy and bad faith.

>>713662974
When the west killed god for most people the fanatics HAD to adopt something new.
Im not memeing, its social anthropology and its sad.
Weve traded god for products. Not religious btw, just seems like an accurate answer for your question.

>>713662974
Thor is weird because he very much hates corporations but doesn't want to support this purely because he thinks it'd hurt devs under a corporation with an increased workload. That's it. He just thinks that this is work that has to be done after a game is out and not during development, so therefore it'll make devs have to work more and corpos hate that. The irony is that he's defending corpos and directly leading to people losing work when a game shuts down or a company firing a team because the main development is done. Happens all the time.

>>713661281
Essentially just this >>713661809 though he talked to two other youtube people (Funnily enough, he STILL won't talk to Ross, the main guy behind the initiative), and apparently kept doubling down the entire, only kind of apologizing about how he treated Ross. I say "kind of" because he didn't apologize to Ross or for what he said to Ross, just that he's sorry if people got mad over it.

>>713662974
Why do you think he's called a Nepobaby? Because his father literally works for Blizzard still to this day. He's very against SKG because he thinks it's a threat to his fathers job.

>>713661417
>>713663058
the best part is it's a retarded movement in the first place that should fail
best case scenario they will just get laughed by politicians worst case they will use this as a way to force even more censorship and globohomo crap on games

>>713662506
>escapegoat
Anon, doesn't your Amazon Fire tablet tell you that's not a word?

Anyone below 100% is brown.

>what do you mean this dev won't support their game for the rest of their lives so I can continue playing?!
>I know, we'll petition the EU to force developers, by law, to either work for free supporting my favorite game or be required to give me their game so I can continue hosting servers

you're fucking beyond retarded if you ever thought this would go anywhere past some retarded petition signed by a bunch of eternally online morons

>>713663026
It's even funnier when you consider that this dude made an entire persona pretending to be a voice for independent game developers.

>>713661281
i dont even k ow why i know this, but here it goes. Its not really one specific thing, ill tey to do a summary.
>become e famous bybstreaming to zoomers
>stream with a deep voice
>zoomers keep asking you about the game industry
>say you worked at blizzard and act like a gamedev guru
>zoomers look up to you
>he gets bigger and bigger
>people start looking into him
>turns out he doesn't really have a deep voice
>claims he got a second puberty
>was not really big at blizzard seems he got in via connections
>he spergs out at criticism
Now here is where he starts crossing into lolcow territory
>spergs out about SKG, he has a back and forth with accused farms
>minor internet drama but starts getting a reputation
>gets caught looking up guides in single player games but he keeps claiming he doesn't and solve all of it by himself
>doubles down on every criticisms
>does some hardcore WoW stream where he let his whole team get wiped
>doubles down again that it wasn't his fault
>at this point he is into getting into lolcow farms territory
>SKG drama starts again
>he keeps sperging out
Thats it, its not really one huge thing is just that he is, for a lack of better a better word, a chuuni. He was getting famous as this wise surrogate big brother to zoomers but then the sperg outs started and now he keeps getting the wrong kind of attention

>>713663152
>devs would have to work a bit more for this regulation so it's bad
This guy would hate OSHA. Probably hates seatbelts too.

>>713663152
>he very much hates corporations
LMAO if you actually believe this you are either a delusional fanboy or retarded

>>713663235
>Fuckin' irish managed to hit their threshold.
Maybe I've been too harsh on the drunk buggers.

>>713660728 (OP)
The little weasel rapist's time is up, and it sure is satisfying. What I'm surprised to see is so many people online acting all like "oh but once he was a humble and smart game dev". Even back when he was being astroturfed on YouTube it was really obvious that he had a massive ego and was full of shit, are these people kids? It was obvious even back then.

>>713661058
The algorithm tends to push the same video to tons of different people at the same time. It's the same reason why random videos from 15 years ago will suddenly skyrocket in views, because the algorithm decided to start shoving it in people's faces all of a sudden.

>>713663243
That's not what the petition is asking for, Jason.

>>713663235
>France and Spain nearing 100%
Surpringly, I thought only nothern Europe would care to sign in.

>>713663058
>Go ahead and post a link to deleted vods
Yeah I'll go right ahead and do that, you disingenuous fuck.
Before you try and say there are no deleted Vods, yes there are.
Post the Vod where Pirate called Ross a used car salesman and said this, go ahead I'll wait, I know I'll be waiting a long time because the fucker deleted the Vod and lied about it existing.
https://youtu.be/AAFZnJPtvDg?si=u8nkhxfWfPdOaAqL&t=840

>>713663243
>>what do you mean this dev won't support their game for the rest of their lives so I can continue playing?!
Are you actually pretending to be retarded or are you just straight up from that gay furry subreddit?

>>713663147
A lot of gacha games are now switching to offline versions when they reach EoS. It's proven to not even be an unreasonable thing for the genre of games most argued to be impossible to adapt to that standard. For MMOs you just need to release some dedicated server software so players can host the game past the server shutdown.

>>713663235
imagine if Ross would have spent time getting someone to do videos in all those different languages these people speak in instead of starting internet drama with a lolcow

qrd on this astroturfed eceleb? (i won't read it)

>>713663224
it was always destined to fail, the very premise of it is completely out of touch with how the real world works

if the EU actually passed legislation like they were asking for, the most likely outcome would be all major publishers just completely avoid the EU market entirely, or they would risk their games being legally taken by some whiny faggots when it become untenable for them to maintain it themselves, it would also open up the possibility of bad actors intentionally destroying an online game so they can take it over and monetize it themselves

this kind of legislation on copyright and ownership is completely unprecedented and there's no way in hell it wouldn't be abused

I cant believe their are people who unironically like that faggot thor

>>713663459
>starting drama
shiggy diggy doo

>>713663235
Italians truly are the biggest cucks of europe

>>713663459
HE FUCKING DID
He asked his euro viewers to send him some Eurotubers he could contact, and those he was able to contact didn't say they wanted to be a part of it.

>>713663306
He does. He hates AAA and shit, but he's so retarded that he's looped back into spouting AAA corpo opinions. It's horseshoe.

>>713662463
>Don't make placeholder art because your playtests might not report any still left in the game before release
what the fuck?
>>713663243
Ross wasn't asking for that. He was asking for the developers to not deliberately brick the game and allow for other people to play the game long after support ends.

>>713663532
>if the EU actually passed legislation like they were asking for, the most likely outcome would be all major publishers just completely avoid the EU market entirely
You have no idea what you're talking about

>>713663532
What community would stand for bad actors intentionally destroying their game?

>>713663532
Anon stop being retarded
Things happening in small countries DO effect the whole world
Steam Refunds? You have those because australia law required it, did steam dip out of australia? no, they gave it to the whole world

>>713663235
so do ALL of the countries have to hit 100% or it will get thrown out? seems kinda weird that liechtenstein, malta and cyprus are so low, like the smaller your population the smaller the overall vote %

>the hero is saved at the last moment by a deus ex machina

>>713663532
>publishers would just not try to sell product to a third of the global market
Who's out of ouch here again

>>713662463
>This is a supposed "dev" people look up to
Grim.

>>713663058
>>713663224

Shut the actual fuck up, Thor.
Even if the actual movement fails you will still be a faggot and will be laughed at no matter the outcome.

>>713663661
>liechtenstein
oops meant luxembourg* but the point still stands
seems like there's a demographic problem or something

>>713663661
Nah, only 7 need to hit a threshold and there needs to be 1 million votes overall. Condition 1 is met, we need condition 2.

>>713663561
>He asked his euro viewers
So HE did nothing then

>>713663494
tl;dr: narcissistic collapse

>>713660728 (OP)
i don't know about anything you're talking about, but isn't this the guy that got his group killed in dire maul?

>>713662479
too many words, always go for the "in 20 words or less"

Ross Scott was always a pretty entertaining guy with his videos, but holy shit, how he skewered this ferret fucking scammer is chef's kiss - even better that he's doing it in a last ditch attempt to get something he truly cares about over the line.

Get into Ross's Dev Dungeon, Jason Hall, your sentence is a lifetime of rape.

>>713663757
pretty much yeah

>>713663687
>Even if the actual movement fails
it already failed
you lost

>>713663754
>Hey guys, can you guys send me the contact details of european youtubers I can get into contact with about this?
This is his fault how? A german would have an easier time picking out german youtubers to send ross' way.

>>713663532
you are forgetting that iphones now have USBC because of EU laws. No one is going to pull out of EU markets simply because of how important it is.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/10/26/weve-no-choice-apple-says-iphones-will-switch-over-to-usb-c-chargers-to-comply-with-new-eu-law/

What made you like this, Jason

Didn't you want to be one of the good ones, way back when?

This isn't being one of the good ones

>>713663669
europoors aren't a third of the market

>>713663734
i see
i wonder if they'd have hit the goal if britain was still in, since they have no language barrier
also italians need to step up

Eceleb threads are against the rules

>>713661281
he roached out in a WoW dungeon

>>713663884
What percent are they?

Pirate Software has this weird mindset that he doesn't want devs to "eternally supporting a dead multiplayer game" forever, as if the idea itself is evil or something. None of these would even be a problem if companies stop trying to prevent the community from modding and making private, self funded servers. Left 4 Dead has literally 0 content or replayability without the autistic codemonkeys in the community.

>>713663571
hating triple A games is not the same as hating corporations and he clearly doesn't hate triple A games either

>>713660941
>pirate literally taking the knot
Fukken kek

>>713663665
I don't watch Charlie but apparently he recently started a gaming channel, and it isn't even stream reuploads but dedicated playthroughs he records on his own time. So he's clearly invested enough in this hobby to realize he can talk about things on his main channel besides normalfag drama

>>713663669
>the EU is a third of the video game industry

yikes

>>713663754
do you smoke crack

>>713663843
He got a brain worm from raping a ferret. Oh, wait, he was having sex with ferrets WAY back in the day, before he even got nepo hired at Blizzard - I don't think he was ever a good one.

>>713663938
without the UK? probably less than 20

>>713660728 (OP)
Nobody likes him anymore.

>>713663791
seems a bit too vague

>>713663827
>Removes fatal functions of phones
>Reintroduce the function but much more overpriced
Apple is fucking cancer, why is this company still existing?

>>713663235
For the first time I'm proud of my country

>>713663815

And you will still be a faggot and be laughed at, so you lost as well.

Go answer to the guy (>>713663389) who got your proof too, you fucking coward.

>>713663235
Hahahaha
Benis.

>>713663532
>f the EU actually passed legislation like they were asking for, the most likely outcome would be all major publishers just completely avoid the EU market entirely
Anon, are you serious? Europe is a massive share of the market, there's a reason companies bend the knee to EU regulations, losing it is a huge fucking loss.

>>713660728 (OP)
Steam forum wad fun last time I checked. Yes, people bitched about the asshole being lazy, so he locked every single thread referencing it in any way. Thick skin baby!

>>713663941
It should have been obvious that he'd be like this from the fact he worked at Blizzard and still simps for them. They absolutely drilled him with anti-private server propaganda and he was probably tasked with punishing people who talked about private servers while he was doing GMing for WoW.

>>713663896
It probably would have, since Ross seemed to have been able to contact UK people just fine.

>>713664117
BENIS :DDD

>>713660728 (OP)
I don't follow this guy at all and I don't care about liveservice slop getting killed but how retarded is he to not support the dumb movement?
Isn't his entire internet persona "vidya dev that supports gamers"?

>>713663532
Europe has a larger consumer base then the US you dumbass

>>713660728 (OP)
why does anybody engage with people like this seriously? just cut him off at every word he says with
>YOU RAPE ANIMALS
>YOU'RE A FREAK AND A PET RAPIST
over and over again and refuse to let him talk. his chat should be absolutely flooded with this. nobody should engage with any of his points and just continue to blurt this out at him at the maximum volume their voice can reach. it just doesn't make sense to me why a creature like this would be permitted to speak in the same room as human beings.

>>713664164
At this point not even the biggest glazzer would attempt to claim this faggot has any kind of skin. He gets KWAB'd every other month. I've seen bitch-made people but this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ecAatdNojY&t=36s

>>713664297
its not just live service games there trying to preserve its all games

>>713660728 (OP)
Transitioning or sexual allegations within the next three years, call it.

>>713663961
His oldschool contents have always been a mix of videogame and random shit talkings about some youtubers/streamers he dislikes. Charlie actually had a DM session with Thor about the matter and it imploded in real time.

I think it's funny that because there's no actual argument against SKG, the only way to attack it is to make straight up lies.

Can anyone actually name 3 games that you would still play if they weren’t “dead”, seems like games lose 99% of their players before they go offline and at that point who cares

>>713663532
anon use your brain, do you think the cost of implementing whatever this legislation would involve would actually, ACTUALLY outweigh the profits that are earned from selling to the entire EU marketplace
I'm genuinely curious

>>713664378
sorry liveservice an online only drm slop. Happy now?

I was looking for the exchange between him and Ross and holy shit he is more retarded than I thought.

>>713664297
>Isn't his entire internet persona "vidya dev that supports gamers"?
You should realize by now that people who make a point of reminding everyone how "pro-YOU" they are are just trying to get a platform so they can soapbox their hot opinions.

>>713664328
we do let him talk its that talk that is getting him in trouble. hes like a rapper who snitches on themselve

>>713660728 (OP)
OP is right for once. Developer apologists are far too often overlooked and instead some guy that runs the business side of things gets blamed.

>>713664435
Plenty of obscure MMOs for me, but I hate this argumentation since it means you have to be constantly be playing a game for it to live. Nigger, what if I want to play something else for a while, should that exclude me from ever playing that game ever again?

>>713664435
I'd be on club penguin every day my guy

>>713664165
>It should have been obvious that he'd be like this from the fact he worked at Blizzard
What little testimony we have suggests he was a huge nepobaby, took credit for stuff he didnt do and his impact on anything was sub-minimal. The only thing him working at Blizzard indicates is he's enough of a gay cocksucker (literally) to side with the gayest, lamest branch of the federal government's propaganda wing. He is just another form of Carl the Cuck.

>>713664435
I would have liked to play Mario 35 at least once.

>>713664435
Why would you not support this initiative?
What do you gain by campaigning against it?

>>713664435
And how would that impact developers, whether a game get played after it gets abandoned or not?
Older games did, some are dead and some are still played today.

>>713664328
Also tell him that he'll never be a real game dev, nor a real hacker, but just a greasy little ferret rapist con man. Remind him that Ross is also somehow more knowledgeable with game dev than him.

>>713664480
>comply with existing agreements or legal requirements
What is he even talking about and why is he bitching about people geting the key to make their own servers if it solve the fucking issue?
What an absolute retard

>>713664435
The very company Jason simps for had to revival the classic version of WoW, despite all the developers being against it. It's now one of the main pillars of WoW's revenue.

>>713664643
didn't making your own servers used to be the norm back then in gaming?

>>713664435
Even if you don't care about the currently dead games, if companies can just keep killing their games, there might be a day when they kill one that you like.

>>713664417
Really the main argument is not so much about opposing it, but about how to go about enforcing it. Is it gonna be another song and dance if a legal loophole winds up existing? If it passes, how is it actually going to be codified into law?
Depending on what's enacted, it might just wind up being a case of publishers slapping some vague end of service date ahead of time, or just minimalist approach, where the game is modified to launch offline, but effectively unplayable because the server tools aren't available.

>>713664480
>reading the TOS prevents software from working

>>713664480
What legal requirements? If it is middleware shit, then absolute crock of shit, internet autists prove you don't need it if they can do it without the middleware.

>>713664165
Private server is one of the biggest boogeyman of gamedevs because it downplays their power and importances, knowing their customers have the power beyond their control. But funny enough, this mindset causes them to become literall scammers they can only shutdown and rugpull the customers the momment it is nolonger profitable to support a multiplayer game.

>>713664495
Ye but why go mask off? The idea that Pirate software killed the movement is retarded, there's lots bigger streamers that shilled for the movement and the entire PS controversy probably got more eyes on the movement if anything. He could have just supported it and we'd still be half a million votes away without harming his reputation

>>713664073
>"USB is a fatal flaw of a phones"

>>713664705
yes, I think some games still do that

>>713662974
americans have been made to believe that the freedom to have your pocket picked is a liberty the government shouldn't stand in the way of

>>713664723
>Really the main argument is not so much about opposing it, but about how to go about enforcing it.
Now that I'll be fine with people arguing over that point.
But people aren't, I'm laughing that most of the arguments claiming SKG demands companies to maintain a game forever or give up the right of their IPs, which are straight up lies.

>>713664854
then why stop people from doing it now it makes no sense its just companies being stop playing old stuff and buy our newest release

>>713662357
But ferrets can't use social media

>>713664480
>Name is Piratesoftware
>Complaining about private servers for MMOs
>"IT'S ILLEGAL!"

>>713662974
Some people think they'll be CEO one day, so any regulations that affects corporation could affect negatively in the future, and we can't have that.

>>713664480
Oh, he deleted his tweets. No wonder I couldn't find them. What a bitch!

>>713664928
For me, it's the exact point that intrigues me the most. I am not really interested in supporting or hollering up about the campaign until I see what the eventual law winds up being, if anything at all.

>>713660789
qrd?

>>713665084
ferret fucker is proven wrong on every point and doubles down again and again.

>>713664986
i also remember him arguing against it saying that GMs running a private server could monetize it and that's ILleGaL

>>713665084
He interacted with Pirate for the first time and found out he's an arrogant asshole. Whole video is him shitting on the guy. He's reached total lolcow status.

>>713664804
Actually, now that there is a face to hate who is facing a huge fall from grace, and he just happens to rape his rodents as well? It's amazing, because this drama very well may actually be what gets it over the finish line.

>>713664643
But our cosmetic lootbox microtransactions! They have no value if players can play on unofficial servers with no item restrictions! Our whales will drop the game if we can't force people into servers for them to peacock at! The players could be ignoring their second job completing their daily quests over there too! How are we supposed to keep them addicted and invested enough to buy in-game items without a skinnerbox EXP meter to fill from our weekly banner events? Please, think of the repercussions.

>>713664952
you just answered your own question
it's called sales cannibalization
it's why you can't play overwatch 1

>>713664819
Ah yes, let's buy Apple's niche and dogshit exclusive charger for 100 dollars when i can buy random standard USB charger for 2 dollars.

Getting a gamedev degree in Uni blackpilled the shit out of me regarding most of the industry. Thankfully my skills were transferable enough to go into software engineering post-grad, I cannot imagine the quagmire I'd be in right now if I actually tried to wade through that quagmire.

Gamedev is just a hobby for me now and I'm happier for it. It's an industry that is rotten to the fucking core, and desperately needs regulation.

>>713664705
That's why you can still play Starsiege Tribes and Tribes 2 online to this day along with countless other multiplayer games. Tribes Ascend on the other hand is dead and unplayable forever.

>>713665149
but why would that matter if the game is no longer being supported? Is that really the best excuse he could think of?

>>713665204
What were the biggest blackpills?

>>713665204
>It's an industry that is rotten to the fucking core, and desperately needs regulation.
And software engineering isn't?

>>713665192
More like stopping churning out sequels no one asked for.

>>713665010
They are still there. But the thread there is so laughable. He responds once, gets btfo'd in the next reply, and shuts up. He is repeatedly chain-fucked there. God damn trannies and even gacha fags are laughing at him.

>>713665197
USBC is the standard type now you absolute tard. Even samsung phones use it

>>713665328
Good for goose good for gander, this happening in gaming could extend tendrils into wider software once precedence is set.

>>713665029
The EU doesn't always make shit decisions. But then they also do make shit decisions, so it's 50/50.
In the best possible outcome, it would be a regulation ensuring online games have an option to specifically allow player created private servers.
In the worse possible outcome, it'd probably be something like an online game must be functional past its lifespan, which means literally nothing since opening the game and being stuck on a title screen would be technically "functional".

>>713664435
There was an old MMO I bought back in the day called Auto Assault. I don't even think it was that good but I bought it used like a year before the servers closed. I played it some, put it down, and by the time I wanted to go back to it, it was gone. Some people did some work to get a private server up but it never seems to have completed. Now, it was a subscription-based MMO, so this initiative wouldn't cover it, and I can live with that - I got what I paid for and just didn't have the option to renew the subscription later. But kids today are gonna have that experience with more games, even ones they bought up front. I'm sure there are physical copies of games that don't work any more still out there on shelves in pawn shops and used goods stores. Why subject people to that kind of disappointment?

For a better example, Tribes 2 - it was no subscription, pay up front, multiplayer but had private server hosting. But it had a central authentication server, and when that went down, you couldn't log back in. The game only survives today because unlike Auto Assault, bypassing that central server was easy - you still have at least a few hundred people playing it regularly because of that. They were told to stop playing one of the best FPSes of all time and said fuck off.

It's hard to measure how many players a dead game would still have if it had been left playable. People move on because they have to, not because they want to.

>>713665182
ah, yeah now that make sense.
tl;dr The guy is part of something that is the worst shit that happened to video games.
What a fucking slime

>>713665343
Reminds me of these threads where someone who proclaims that they know about microservices and servers and making it "impossible" only to be shut down by an anon who knows their shit.

>long hair
>clean shaven

this is literally every furry perverts style

>>713665343
Kek it's pretty great people are finally fully realising Piratesoftware is a dickhead who got in the way of something positive that was in all our interests.

>>713665293
When you realize that the only people who get into the better places to work and aren't immediately laid off post-release are ferret raping furfags with zero engineering ability who only got the job because of Daddy.
I wonder how many times this freak joined in at the Cosby room?

>>713661001
Its not finished, he knows if he finishes it the money train is over and will expose him for what he is.

The game is a big fucking nothing about some asshole feeling sad and dealing with depression, a dime a dozen indie RPGS right now.

I genuinely live in fear of making such a public fool of myself. This guy just keeps saying dumber and dumber things.

>>713660728 (OP)
So, when is he coming out as a tranny?

>>713660728 (OP)
Who the fuck even is this guy? I keep seeing his faggot everywhere now.
What did he develop?

>>713660728 (OP)
Never seen such a retarded nigger animal speaking so confidently while being clueless.

>>713665580
Ooh, good one, then he'll pitch up his voice in post and claim he got a third, female puberty.

Still can't get over the shit part of all this
>Calls Ross a "greasy car salesman" and for people to "eat his ass"
>Then bitches about people being mean to him
Stupid games and stupid prizes as they say.

>>713665601
nothing, he's just a nepobabby industry plant which explains why he's so vehemently anti consumer

>>713665601
>What did he develop?

Um, excuse me, sweetie? He Kickstarted an Undertale ripoff in 2017 that's still in Early Access. Sit down and be humble.

>>713660728 (OP)
>It’s always the devs. CEOs only care about making money, and game devs actively come up with parasitic shit to generate profits and defend them.

Pretty much.

I work as a game dev in a big studio, and the retarded shit always 100% comes from the lower levels devs.
Your CEO and board members often have no fucking idea what a video game even is, they are bankers, random jews and people whose job is being proffesional board members, they give budget, goals and the rest is up to the fuckers under them.
I went drinking with one of our previous CEOs, he wanted to "get to know the leads", and only thing he was interested is politics, he had 0 idea what we were really making, and 3 months later he was gone, removed by the board and a new clown was hired.

If people want to know what game dev looks like, imagine an office job, but instead of sitting all day in excel of google sheets you ... sit all day on google meets.
Come to work, have meetings, do 2-3 hours of work, spend rest of day talking how much evil Trump is. And thats my day, thats the day of 50% of people here, maybe like 1 in 5 people actually works. I sit on 4chan and youtube all day.

Thats why games are shit, not since some CEO hates money and wants to burn it.

>>713665601
He was a Warcraft moderator back then. Nowadays he is sperging about being a "gamedev" but so far, no playable products were made.

Only passively related to the topic, but wasn't there something with Destiny 2 recently where they were getting sued over plagiarizing writing and they couldn't produce the content requested by the court because it was "vaulted"? The fuck does that even mean? I refuse to believe that any dev has implemented some system stupid enough where they lock away old assets and code somewhere that nobody in the company can ever access it ever again. Shit like this is a massive red flag of how scummy the AAA industry has become and how willing they are to lie about absolutely everything for an extra buck.

>>713665515
It genuinely is better to sometimes take a break from the computer or better yet just admit you were wrong than to keep digging the hole. Pirate hasn't learned that lesson in all his 40+ years of life.

>>713665506
he did update the game but its only a single file and was to remove the abandoned title added by steam. I wonder if that could be reported as evasion

>>713662334
Killing stop killing games is not the same as killing the games industry. The industry will happily continue getting worse and swallowing up everything you hold dear without recourse. The industry death that some people yearn for is a "reset" brought about by people having enough, whether that means people stop buying AAA games entirely, or some kind of regulatory consumer action, like SKG.

>20k+ in two days
Are we back?

>>713660728 (OP)
that guy was never a dev
and the truth is both the devs and the ceos are at fault

>OMGGGG IS THAT THE LATEST GOSSIP ABOUT THIS NOBODY ECELEB??!!?!?!?!?!!?!
>>>/b/

Didn't he get laughed out of being an ashes of creation content creator because of his narcissism? That's why he fled to classic hardcore IIRC.

>>713665515
that's because you have inner monologue and are able to self reflect. about 80% of the earth's population lack this with a higher percentage for fags who are loud on the internet

>>713665515
All the mockery comes from him refusing to admit he was wrong. The fact you even said this sentiment puts you in the safe zones

>>713660728 (OP)
No seriously why western devs don't understand the meaning of "don't bite the hands that feeds you" or "don't shit where you eat"?

>>713665712
They literally deleted the old stuff to save space and called it 'vaulted'

>>713665725
He literally streams 12+ hours a day. He's addicted to the computer.

>>713665725
who knows, never admitting fault works out for some people.

>>713660728 (OP)
I only know of this because of Ross but this guy's main problem is that he is just too emotional. He is analyzing the situation and responding like a liberal woman. He feels personally offended for no fucking reason at all

>>713665749
only if you get more 20k every single day from now on, which is very unlikely

>>713665805
Because we are moving further away from God each day.

>>713665515
All you have to do is not speak like a smug cunt who thinks he's the authority on everything and be open to conceding when you're wrong on something. It's not being wrong about shit that makes you a lolcow, it's doubling down and moving goal posts after getting called out that makes you a faggot.

>>713661070
It's funny to me that he even thought being from Blizz equated to street cred

>>713665764
Fuck off, you already outed yourself as a jew the previous thread

>>713665764
take your bait back to /b/

>>713665712
IIRC the way they developed the game meant that they couldn't roll back to a previous version.
Even if they could make it work with some coding, it probably wouldn't be valid on court, so they just said "we have nothing".

>>713665805
Many vidya devs are rejects from other industries, so their stance on vidya is that it's childish and gamers are sexists. They hope by sucking the right dicks, they'll be allowed into the right industry and make it big.

>>713665820
Funnier thing is that they even deleted the development stuff like the initial concept ideas and story script. Completely wiped it off down to its bones.

>>713665749
Only if the momentum keeps up. I've been mainly checking the tracker https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/ to see if it's meeting the "daily goal", and I am kind of worried that it won't manage to get at least 14,000 signatures each day. Hope I'm wrong though.

>>713665343
That superhero MMO survived for years with a public server that wasn't even publicly available

>>713665749
Maybe. Realizing that it's close to failure has some people mobilized. A lot of people thought it was doing 'ok' before now because they weren't paying attention and some of them are trying to see if they can do something.

Ross fired the starting gun on the final sprint. Guess we'll see how good the engine is and if there's enough fuel in the tank to take us over the line.

>>713665764
it's okay as long as it's not about vtubers

>>713665926
Maybe if it was still 2009.

>>713662084
>gaming the algo
its called botting and 99.99% of ecelebs do it, his clips weren't particularly trash tbf + people love narcissists, somehow I got to see him under 20 stream viewers, it felt like he was just having fun, yes he stole other creators tricks & tips but its classic, he played his cards well, went viral on d4 videos.

>>713665956
private server*

>>713660728 (OP)
I hate lumping all devs together, Im sure some, maybe even most of them are cool, but 90% of the messaging Ive seen from boots on the ground "developers" is "FUCK GAMERS, IF YOU WANT A GOOD PRODUCT YOURE MY NEW TWITTER BUZZWORD INSULT!"

>>713665805
thank wendy's twitter for popularizing shitting on your customers. that snarky attitude is what all brands try to copy since the "marketing" tells them its popular

>>713665764
you sound jealous

Thor won

>>713662479
>just get aislop to hallucinate what happens
>>713663791
>noooo I'm too adhd to read a single paragraph make it simpler
Follow kermit's example. You aren't worth the resources you use.

>>713666021
Nah, most of gamedevs are either greedy or faggy. This is why you don't meet your heroes.

>>713665712
Ya Bungie, i think they tried to use Youtube lore videos as evidence in their favor and the judge told them to fuck off. People legitimately defend that sorta shit with the argument that 'there's so much content a little going missing isn't even noticeable.

>>713662180
>Isn't a complete retard
He literally is a fucking ZOGbot shabboo goy so just an average MIGA boomerlite cuckservative.

>>713665601
He developed a massive ego because his daddy got him a job at Blizzard. He also developed this, don't you just love the brilliance of putting all story line events in a 17k long array! That code is from his game which is about 10% done, that he Kickstarted 8 and a half years ago and could only really be called abandon are at this point!

Oh, I think also developed a rare zoonotic disease after he raped one of his ferrets.

>>713666079
go suck him off in his comment section, jew

>>713666107
Im still sure some are cool. Ed Mcmuffin seems like a funny guy

>devs in the 90s and 00s be like: here's the dedicated server .exe, knock yourself out
>""devs"" in 2025: AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE leaving the game in playable state is literally impossible

>>713665935
It was plagiarized writing the complaint was about. They don't have to show it in the game, they can just dump the script and all the art assets. Do they just delete all the assets off the company harddrives when an event is done running or something?

>>713666160
T. retard who develops nonstory poorly programmed arcade games
Whats the right way to do this?

you guys, be nice to thor, he's currently bummed that a live service game he loves is getting shut down at the end of this month. not that he gets the irony.

>>713666086
>hallucinate
But that paragraph was 100% accurate?
It's just an AI search engine that aggregates all the info about it
You could also just copy paste the captions and let it summarize them

>>713665705
He wasn't even a moderator, I think that's another one of his lies so he could pretend that he solved the bot problem. Maldy was actually a little QA bitch boy!

>>713660728 (OP)
>The Stop Killing Games initiative had to become about eceleb drama in order to get off the ground and see widespread support
What does this say about society?

>>713666107
what about New Blood

>>713662180
>Asmongold
He has become a literall politic streamer and has severe brain damage nowadays. For the last 10 streams or so, he didn't play games or even try to be entertaining while Critikal has been fun nonstop. Asmon is lost to me when he spent like several hours defending the Jews and ban any chatters who point their presence out.

>>713660728 (OP)
But it's the retarded managers who are hiring said retard devs.

>>713665835
Only when it's a "I hurt someone's feeling kind of thing" not when it's objective "I'm just making shit up to make it look like I'm knowledgeable" You get skill checked and raped

>>713666160
>Learned to Whistle
>Talked to Whistler about Shortstack
>Coffee Joke
>Sock Tower
what kind of stupid game is this

>>713666309
We are born of the slop, made men by the slop, undone by the slop; fear the old slop.

>>713665928
>>713665934
>CARE ABOUT INFANTILE INTERNET DRAMA OR YOU'RE A JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW

>>713666218
biggest problem is that using those flags elsewhere in the code isn't going to show the comment
the indices should be constants with descriptive names at minimum

>>713666309
that was exactly what Ross didn't want it to become but here we are, people will always love their dramaslop

>>713666267
>no you dont get it, its impossible to host all the user created levels for people to download
>said the man who supposedly develops games
*COUGH* https://archive.org/details/mm1-and-mm2-levels-archive

>>713666309
that this was always an eceleb shill campaign that normal people with jobs ignored

>>713666349
It's frustrating how much of a midwit he is, I almost empathize; but also take joy in Hasan's seething over Asmon taking over as the 'top political streamer'. Asmon doesn't make any effort to get to the bottom of things and literally relies on twitter's AI model to feed him facts.

>>713666365
you mean HR karens?

>>713660728 (OP)
I saw one short of him just defending paid exclusivity because it gives more money to devs to put back into the game. Then he cited satisfactory as an example of a game that made more money, then pinned his own comment responding to a common reply that claims Satisfactory was the only one that did. But all his examples were shit like RDR2, big AAA publisher shit, and games that make all their money off consoles first. None of this is how budgeting revenue works for game development since all this shit does is keep the devs lights on at best while they shit out the next one. What pissed me off was seeing gen alpha and zoomers replying to that pinned comment spouting "OOOOH HE HAD THE RECEIPTS!" because they don't know a god damn thing he says, just that he replied with a big list of skewed names and an arguement nobody said to him.

>>713666397
Probably a walking simulator

Thor won

>>713666589
yeah he won the lolcow of the week award

>>713662101
Asmon already said Thor either misinterpreted or lied about what the objective was earlier today.

>>713666578
Satisfactory literally didnt make money on Epic. Respect for taking the paid exclusivity check I guess but it turned me off from ever buying the game Steam or otherwise

>bro I used to hack nuclear power plants and the government needed me
>bro I worked for blizzard and had a high ranking position
>bro my dad was in south park btw
>I apologize even though I'm not going to apologize
>I am never wrong
Literal narcissism delusion artificial ego syndrome. I know people IRL like this too and it's such a strange phenomenon.

>>713666665
yeah, in the middle of sucking his cock and banning people critical of him yes

>>713666021
>>713666107
It's the "indie" Californian "auteur" types who are like this. There's tons of developers and independent developers who aren't manipulative sociopaths. The problem is it's this circle of nepobaby rich kids forcing themselves into the spotlight and declaring themselves to be the "voice of the industry".

>>713666658
>lolcow
zoomers have totally ruined this term, all it means now is someone their discord group is currently harrassing

>>713666578
A literal actual cheat in life is to have a deep voice, never stutter, and act confident. If you do, you will get a bunch of fatherless teenagers to make you their surrogate dad.

This is why the whole mana gem drama happened. He could not show or state he panicked, because it would imply he wasn't calm, cool, collected, and right. It genuinely would hurt his brand. 15 year old boys whose dad went out for smokes would stop looking up to him.

>>713666578
>it gives more money to devs
that's funny, didn't squeenix just recently announce they won't do exclusives anymore because they lost so many sales because of it?

>>713666757
The dev of Haiku seems nice

>>713665293
The only people working for major publishers (mostly in the west) are either ignorant or hopelessly naive; or they're just deranged lunatics as this guy said >>713665505

Homogeneity is encouraged at a fundamental level at this point. The reason why so many devs get uppity when a game breaks the mold and finds success is because every lecture and GDC talk pushes conformity. Going against that is taken as a statement against the industry, and thus the egos/intelligence of the people working there. You cannot present any idea to upper management or even fucking professors without the edges being sanded down to a nub.

There is no reason for competent developers to work in games. Good programmers, artists, producers, musicians, etc. can all make vastly more money for fewer hours outside the industry. The brain drain problem is legitimate and the only major publisher not suffering from it is Nintendo (I am not joking).

The industry collapse isn't a coming inevitability, it's already happening and will only continue to get worse. Companies are hemorrhaging money and talent in biblical proportions. It's not going to be a complete reset like the 80s, but it is going to keep getting worse.

Gaming is a tiny fucking industry, and HR is its all-seeing eye. For some reason the white chicks that decide to work in games are on a level of crazy 10x that of anywhere else. God help you if you piss one of them off.

Most gamedevs have absolute dogshit taste in vidya.

>>713665328
It's comparatively better, but in all honesty I changed directions mostly for the better salary. I can at least ignore the smaller systemic problems in exchange for a fat paycheck, paid vacations, and an office devoid of funko pops.

>>713666778
Doesn't he add a filter to his microphone to make his voice sound deeper?

>>713665712
>>713665935
>>713666179
the problem here is that games are developed through git in like 100 parts and then merged, even if you could rollback to some old branch it wont have the relevant backend needed to run it anymore
online games arent easy to rollback, cant just switch a branch in fork and know for sure that it can be used for anything
its fully possible to not be able to go back

>>713666179
>It was plagiarized writing the complaint was about.
just some schizo shit from a scam artist who claims the stole ideas from his head and his blog
destiny has lot of problems, but they write that retarded shit themselves

>>713666758
he literally has a dedicated kiwi farms thread

>>713666778
And that's why he uses a voice filter.

>oh 4chan? yeah, so 4chan works like this. the site is basically a hacker mekka. the site uses encryption that make all the users have the same name. maybe you've heard about anonymous. the famous hacker group? yeah, thats them. so i was actually working at 4chan for a couple of years. the site admin moot, after hearing about my hacking skills, contacted me on discord where we talked for a bit, and he hired me as a security guy where my job was to keep one of the boards free from spam and remove off topic threads. my dad was one of the original oldfags, and moot actually based pedobear on him.

>>713666218
If you want something that isn't going to be a bitch to maintain, use literally anything else. Hashmap would be acceptable, but so would putting it as JSON. This shit is really dumb, he's literally giving himself a shitload of work by commenting what each index is. There's just better ways to structure the data here. This isn't really a performance thing, the array would work fine for the purpose, but there's loads of better methods that still give O(1) reads. It's just a really dumb way to structure data, and he had to have planned ahead to decide to use an array for his storyline shit.

>>713666178
i wonder what caused this drastic change of attitude

>>713666521
It is not really about him being a midwit but it is tragic how he transformed from a gamer to a boring politics yapper. Politics is still extremely boring, no matter how much drama and chaos it can generate outside of its pocketed existence. It feels like Critikal and Asmon switched personality now, Critikal play games all days and Asmon yaps about drama/geo politics all days.

>>713666840
Half of the named internet has a farms thread

>>713662126
You forgot the part where he blatantly deepens his voice and refuses to admit it, if you want to push that angle of him having a gigantic ego.

>>713666850
>and moot actually based pedobear on him.
Kek'd

>>713666349
The way he reacted to Charlies video was fucking ridiculous, clearly didn't know what he was talking about he just wanted to do the old grift of 'both sides' when it's not a both sides issue, Pirate is clearly in the wrong, he misrepresented Stop Killing Games but Asmongold still backed him up and then called it drama.
The guy is a fucking lemon.

>>713666778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuglRrItr4
here's his real voice btw

>>713666791
Yep lol. His arguement was focused around Epic games specifically even though theres clear proof that you don't make more money with exclusivity. Look at Xbox porting their own IP to Playstation

>>713666758
>all it means now is someone their discord group is currently harrassing
"lolcow" has always been a bullying campaign toward specific individuals. It is not something positive to have some gay nostalgia for.

>>713666885
This, my feed is flooded with
>ITS SO AVKSHUALLY OVER THIS TIME
>posted 2 and a half minutes ago
>its a video of retard reacting to a tweet where Trump says "Had a BigMac, it was awful!"

>>713666850
incredible

>>713665689
Office culture is a blight. So many useless middle managers and meetings and small talk. If you're like me, you'd get much more done working from home or an empty office.

>>713666589
you suck e-celeb cock for fun, no one wins here

>>713665364
Even fucking Nintendo has been using USB-c since 2017.

>>713666684
I pirated satisfactory and it's not really worth playing. It's Factorio except literally everything is worse. You end up building in the air on a floating platform because that's the only way to make a big flat area and then you make long paths in the air to run belts and pipes on to get resources so you can ignore the uneven ground underneath

>>713666850
how has this guy not trooned out yet
he even has the shitty hair they all do before they transition
he even uses voice filters

>>713666850
>my dad was one of the original oldfags, and moot actually based pedobear on him.

>>713667062
His gf(male?) Is a troon. I forget if its mtf or ftm, either way hes fucking a dude or a girl pretending to be a dude

>>713666875
White men who grew up in the 1990's. Western society wasn't in a massive downward spiral back then.

>>713666684
The court documents showed it was the only title to ever reach that profit threshold that means you don't have to pay Epic a dime until that threshold is reached.

>>713667047
exactly, I don't know what anon was on when he pretended that USBC was some niche proprietary thing that apple just adopted out of nowhere when the opposite is the case

>>713666850

>>713666758
Thor is a faggot, but this guy is right. People don't even know what a lolcow is anymore. No mental freaks like Chris-chan or JustinRPG, just normal-ass semi-popular content creators getting their dirty laundry aired out in public. Every story I see about a new "lolcow" and it's always some bullshit about an artist breaking up with his girlfriend, flirting with someone on discord, or having an unsafe opinion on something.

>>713666850
can just picture the condescending whiteboard drawing explanation for all the retards in his audience

>>713666985
He looks and sounds exactly like how I imagine a Reddit moderator, especially the ones who make big butthurt posts.

>>713667164
One of the few times that the EU was right, how they haven't fixed power adapters just boggles my mind.

>>713667180
tbf lolcow's original meaning was the literal word, "lol-cow" meaning someone that you constantly laugh at. Chris Chan was considered a lolcow because his mental condition had him do things that were hilarious to watch from the sidelines.

>>713661523
>Uplink ripoff shovelware
which one?

>>713666578
exclusivity is a concept for back when single player games were system sellers and were what truly moved the money in game companies
now that online gambling pretending to be games make 99% of money in the industry it makes zero sense to pay for shit like final fantasy to be only on your console, and it makes even less sense to make an online game a exclusive to anything when it just increases the risk of it dying days after release

>>713660728 (OP)
He looks like such a cuck

>>713667180
While that's fair, a lolcow comes with a certain level of autism that's very easy to trigger and get a response from(hence the cow part as you can keep milking/trolling them for laughs) Piratesoftware is a complete narcissist and literally any criticism triggers this insane smug response from him.

>>713667062
Because his dad worked at blizzard maaaaaan. He also uses a male voice changer so he wrote himself into a corner.

>>713667372
Grey Hack

Northern Eurobros, how do you get so based?

>>713667301
The kind that dont engage with your argument at all and just call it "icky"

>>713667329
What's wrong with power adapters?

>>713666850
>moot
Who?

Did no one else see the gay furry sexting?

>>713667406
>Piratesoftware is a complete narcissist and literally any criticism triggers this insane smug response from him
That describes 60% of people on the internet at this point and nearly 100% of 4chan users. So fucking what?

>>713667062
he went the furfag route instead

>>713667131
Huh? I'm from 95 and I don't think like the latter.
I used to (and still do) play in private servers and I've seen the massive decrease in quality of AAA vidya and all the cancerous shit it brought to the hobby.

>>713661281
He ran away when he still had mana left and blamed everyone else.

>>713667523
we don't get internet fame for it so why should he

>>713667507
this post aged me a thousand years

>>713666708
>bro I used to hack nuclear power plants and the government needed me

i love this one because what they did was send him AND A FULL TEAM OF PEOPLE into a power plant, they put down a laptop and ran penetration testing software and handed them a report. also his DEFCON shit is very funny because he was on a team of 16 people as well and was guided by DEFCON STAFF MEMBERS

>>713667519
i can see that on /vg/

>>713667523
Anons on 4chan don't publicly put their name on their autism.

>>713667590
Don't worry anon. It was probably not a thousand, it was just ten.

>>713667523
Yeah well most people aren't influencers/plastering their faces everywhere. Hard to lolcow "Anonymous" or some loli pfp in a form

>>713667507
>Saves vtubing with racism
>Is one of the least popular holos
Moot was a tranny that dressed up in little girl dresses and ran the /l/ board.

>>713666708
>>713667669
holy kek
he is literally real life Fantastic

>>713667367
And I'm arguing it's no longer about schadenfreude comedy at the expense of retards lacking self-awareness. It's just about digging up any drama you can on anybody, which is why the targets are now just normal well-adjusted people who had one moment that soured some people's opinion on them. It's pretty much become Cancel Culture 2 where the people aren't even that embarrassing, it's just become an agenda to make people think they are.

>>713663235
CyprusGODS... We beat the eceleb cocksucker allegations.

While Pirate was being an absolute dumbshit about this, cant deny Ross acted like a total faggot about it.
Just giant L's all around.

>>713667463
the 400 different standards found throughout Europe and the lack of 1 standard port and 1 standard power delivery system, I understand this would be a gigantic thing to fix but it needs fixing.

>>713663265
>>gets caught looking up guides in single player games but he keeps claiming he doesn't and solve all of it by himself
>solves puzzles in Animal Well and Outer Worlds that are next to impossible to do it alone
Both the funniest and saddest thing to me. How big must his ego be to think that nobody would call him out for that.

>>713667778
Holy shit, you're right

>>713660728 (OP)
The developers don't decide to take ESG money. The CEOs do. If a CEO walks into the office, and sees his team creating ugly leftist puke, then he should have enough sense to fire whoever allowed that to happen. Still we're looking at the top guys, like the lead creative director, or the executive producer.(executive producers are in charge of hiring all the other lead devs)

The fact is, the CEO chases diversity money. and then they hire shitty leftist developers to perform the task. And then the leftist dev hires more leftist leaders, who bring in more leftists onto the team. It's really no accident. It's all according to their shitty plan.

>>713667814
Explain how ross acted like a total faggot.
>Ignored it for months because it isn't the focus of the campaign
>Get near the end and decide to respond directly to clear up misconceptions and refute the points
Sloptubers picking it up isn't Ross's fault.

>>713666818
My guess is that his microphone is only a small part of it. He seems like the kind of guy to constantly practice making his voice deeper and then claim he went through a 'second puberty'.

>>713667778
Thor is such a mental midget that even Fantastic would run circles around him

>>713662478
me, I'm that guy

>>713667826
>Outer Worlds
Meant Outer Wilds.

>>713667778
Someone should mod his name to Thor

>>713667565
Furfags are literally just troons with 1% more self awareness who realize they don't even qualify as human anymore.

>>713660789
Who?

>>713668000
Hey me, I'm still going to jerk off again in 5 minutes, right?

>>713663235
The way this is colored makes this image look like Shantae if she were a Nikke in combat.

>>713661417
You dont understand anon. Everyone was backing the movement but one dude made up lies about it and killed momentum! He is basically Hitler!

What even was his job at Blizzard? He talks like he's Mark Kern.

>>713668073
No, we were going to use our left this time.

>>713666178
I think the declining practice of videogame modding might be the main factor. Modders literally can't have access to the deep rooted data of a game anymore, leading the multiplayer games to have no external supports once the main devs moved on to other things.

>>713668081
Can't unsee it now, lmao.

>>713668081
holy fuck

>>713667379
Speaking of devs that look like beta cucks, you should see Brian J. Audette who used to work on Dragon Age: The Veilguard. And he blames it on you "toxic gamers" for trolls criticizing it.

>>713668092
He had a QA job. Literal entry level position.

>>713665235
he has an ego where he feels stepping back from something he said would feel like weakness, I'm 99% sure if you got him to say some out of pocket racist/sexist shit he would double and triple down on it just because it came out of his mouth, he believes he can't do no wrong and when you look into why he isn't working with a company it becomes clear why his game has been in early access for 6 years.

>>713660728 (OP)
How do I get second puberty bros?

>>713667793
I mean barring the fact he is a gay furry who probably got a minor to make furry porn assets for him. You don’t make this absurd wall of text and consider yourself well adjusted

>>713668197
Damn, he was in the mainframe.

>>713665689
OK, but the CEOs are the ones chasing diversity for their brand. Trying to get those sweet ESG deals. They're hiring leftist devs to fulfill their vision of their diverse brand.

>>713667010
Its just how it is. Im a lead, and you would think thats like an important position right? Nope
Im not even in the middle of the chain, there are mid menagers, upper managers, producers, lead producers, heads of departements, project owners, heads od heads and so on above me, its an endless chain designed in a way to make accountability impossible. You have dumb HR bitches hiring dumb 20 year old skanks for managers who then hire more managers who hire producers, it fucking never ends.
I kinda just accepted this shit.

Thats why studios where you have strong leads actually make games that stand out, like kojima as retarded as his games are, are his own. Same goes for that kike faggot cuckman. The other side of the coin is shit like my studio or Ubisoft, where making anything unique is impossible anymore, we grew too big to be capable of producing shit.

>>713668271
He deleted this post in like an hour, before he got obliterated by a community note

>>713666850

>>713660728 (OP)
Ross won

>>713668196
>He/him
>Bluesky
Tells me everything I need to know about what kind of person he is.

>>713667814
He ignored the guy for months after reaching out and being told to 'eat his entire ass'.
Even in this latest video, he doesn't insult the guy, he just goes over which points he repeatedly misrepresented and correctly states that Pirate was the top result when you searched for the Stop Killing Games initiative, and thus his misinformation shaped discussion of it.

The dude's a saint compared to how most people would react. I'd be cussing the smug git out and hounding him about his faggotry all day long just out of spite.

>>713662296
his content is literally just him posting the most lukewarm, mainstream take on the latest drama

>>713668316
>community note
I NEED to see it. Please anon, what did it say?

>>713660789
lol
he is the new target and lolcow now because he is a corporate faggot
hope he knows no peace

>>713668376
That video even got serial fence sitter moistcritical to start shit talking Jason Hall

>>713667814
Still trying to act like the victim are you Figtree?

>>713668316
No that’s actually the one he went with. This is the one he deleted in which he played victim about the “toxic trolls” before getting btfo by a literal montage of him being dick to Ross for no reason

>>713664435
there was this lego mmo with dedicated factions that i really liked

>>713666871
As an infra-ggot I've been wondering what the standard MO for dialogue and cutscenes would be while brainstorming game ideas. Would an array or hash map really be a maintainable or scalable option versus abstracting things down one level into an array/map of "scene" constructs that can contain dialogue/camera coords/dialogue tree structure pointing to next possible dialogues/scene types (Could make them singletons for looping dialogue to prevent memory buildup)? Would also make things pretty easy to mod since it would just be a drop-in system. Though I guess it would be a heavier framework than String[]

>>713668228
>trick him into saying "hitler did nothing wrong"
>he now has no choice but to be a nazi for the rest of his life because he's mentally incapable of ever admitting he was wrong about something

>>713668386
Yeah, latest Pokemon scalper drama is truly insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLjI9LUlsE

>>713668467
Forgot image

>hate both sides
>wowfags fanbase is corpo simps
>moldman's fanbase is autistic basement-dwelling spergs
wish cancer on both sides

>>713666665
>Asmon already said Thor either misinterpreted or lied
AssmanGored a weaselly vermin and will say anything to be on the populous side of an argument even when its morally apprehensible. He is a living cockroach which extra emphasis on cocks.

>>713668271
You should probably also bar the whole ferret rape thing too

>>713660805
Not even worth shitposting about. As in completeness.

>>713668376
>"I think [PirateSoftware's] the kind of guy who would have defended the divine right of kings."

>>713668560
Why are you here then? Failed normie?

>>713660728 (OP)
I don't know who she is but she looks hideous.

>>713660728 (OP)
Why does he hate the letter "m" ?

>>713668680
>everything is binary
classic

>>713667814
Ross literally kept Thor's faggy rambling in secret for almost a year because he didn't want the legalization campaign to devolve into petty streamer drama. But now since the movement is reaching its end, he stops being soft because there is nothing to lose.

Going to be honest here, I dunno how you can be a streamer and have thin skin. Most streamers I watch have communities that mock and laugh at them constantly, but the streamer always banters back as well.

>>713668376
I think Ross being so stable and well put together in his arguments is what's fucking Piratesoftware up so much, it's way harder to be a smug prick sure in your superiority when the other person doesn't bite the rage bait. Or at least it's hard to look reasonable in that situation

>>713668560
>defend nepo baby by comparing based Rossman both being a problem
once you leave your moms basement youll realize how bad it really is

reminder dumb niggers will goad you to keep their advertisement on the front page
point and laugh
never engage

>>713665994
Blizzard has been shit since WoW released in 2004

>>713668560
must be exhausting posting on 4chan while hating autistic basement-dwelling spergs

>>713668196
>Asheron's Call 2
This was one of those infamous trainwreck MMOs which shut down in like 2 years. I had played it during that time, and I remember the constant complaints from players about it's gross mismanagement and the complete lack of feedback from the devs. The community manager was a tranny who would shut down any and all complaints about the game. Makes total sense that this man is like this.

Jason Hall calls himself a game developer, went QA for 7 years at blizzard, all he did was click buttons and write reports. 8 Years to not finish a RPG Maker game with no setpieces. And he looks like he has fetal alcohol syndrome

>Both Moist Critical and Josh Strife Hayes DM'd Piratesoftware and told him to apologise to Ross for calling him a used car salesman and for saying the campaign should 'eat his ass'.
KEK

>>713668304
CEOs arent hiring anybody, at lest not in bigger companies, they themselves get hired

Its people like me and specialized recruiters doing it.
I can tell you from my own experience, when i worked in my company of around 100 people, at that point senior devs would hire people after some tests and calls. But now i work in one where my branch alone has 500 people, we have an army of "recruiters" some HR bitches in another building whose only job is to hire people, they in turn are hired by more generalized women in HR. They decide how hiring process looks, vet the candidates, give you a list, invote you to calls, ignore what you say anyway, and hire the tranny who knows nothing.

CEO in a small company isnt the same as CEO in a public company, in a company like Activision the CEO is just some faggot figurehead set up by the board, in a tiny company the CEO is the king
And ironically people complain about the big CEOs ...

>>713668819
Figtree hasn't ever gone against a guy who's had numerous near-death experiences AND had a rape attempt by Machinima before, not including the numerous other life experiences Ross has had that's molded (heh) him into being as emotionally even as possible... unless Ross is talking about anti-aliasing, because every man has its flaw. But, I'd rather Ross' flaw be his autism about AA than being an animal-raping narcissistic fuckwad grifter.

And still nobody has disproved Thor's arguments yet.

>>713668901
And Thor said no to both. What a chad. When both of those frauds are boiling in shit he will still be streaming. He knows the right people and belongs to the right tribe.

>>713661070
he doesnt deserve it but anyone would jump on this offer

>>713668989
You don't need to disprove a faggot's nonsensical rambling because in itself has no substance to be taken seriously.

Crazy how literally all of this could've been resolved with a simple "Sorry guys I messed up."
Narcissism is crazy.

>>713668989
And still nobody has disproved Thor raped a ferret yet.

>>713668968
Yeah but at least Ross' autism with AA lead to interesting parts of his videos talking about wrappers and even reaching out to more technical people to help him fix old games like Trickstyle.

>>713665771
Yes.
his pussy REALLY started hurting because another guild DARED to steal one of "his" mobs in one of the most popular grinding spots.
So he declared a fatwah on them.
"our guild is like 5 times larger, we're gonna make it so you cant farm anyting, we will camp your caravan transports, we will make you quit the game"
What he didnt account for, is that his guild is just him and his viewers, which are all low IQ mongoloids, so his guild got ABSOLUTELY RAPED AND GAPED, and it is STILL getting raped and gaped to this day.
Theres also footage of him trying to kill another player, pathetically failing, and then running like a bitch until he drops combat and then hops on his gay little P2W flying mount, crying about how he's waiting for backup and then they'll show him whats what

>>713669014
>Furry
>belongs to the right tribe
Sure it is buddy.

ecelebs?

>>713669026
Yeah but you don't brag about it 20 years later and act like you're the best game dev in the world because you did QA at Blizzard

>>713668989
Well, in regards to his MMO comment someone made a WoW private server that's single player.

>>713668989
what argument? the shit he talk about is just maliciously missleading

>>713660728 (OP)
Maybe It's a boomer take but how many fucking games do you really need to keep forever? I don't fully understand the hype/drama but I'll this; I've heard and seen this dudes face more than the cause/petition. If one dude's opinion can cause this much butthurt and influence what ever this is about, then maybe your cause is shit bro. IDK.

>>713669014
>Is a kike
Not surprising if true

>>713668807
I had a similar thought about DSP which is made me come up with a theory that DSP is actually playing a character

>>713667523
We don't get paid to spread misinformation and wave our dicks. We do it for free

>>713661523
Ironically the guy you posted in your image is making some shitty Cyberpunk card game that looks like trash too

>>713669120
ecelebs are not video games but it's shift-change time

>>713669178
Watch Dr K's interview with Jason 'Thor' Hall and you'll see his deeply mentally ill and not playing a character

>>713669170
lurk moar newfaggot

>>713668901
Knowing Moist, his DM are probably not that civil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KEI0MtyLQo

>>713664705
You still can on Valve games!

.t TF2 server owner

>Charlie did another video
this is actually amazing
if Piratesoftware keeps tarding, Charlie might keep making videos, and getting more attention and signatures

>>713669170
I don't think there's anything at all wrong with you personally not wanting to keep a game forever, but I don't think that any company should have an on/off valve to my ability to play a game.

>>713664526
Ah, a man of culture

>>713668520
Sorry, don't really have a great answer for you there. I work on a profit and loss system for a financial institution. A lot of these from my perspective and my knowledge would probably be something I'd try and abstract into objects. Since most of what I do is move massive amounts of data through a system, I make use of a lot of maps and collections, especially if they can be parallelized. You could try and just use some sort of tree for a dialog tree, kind of like how filesystems are handled? I think that's where my mind would go first. Everything else I have no clue about, I'd need to brush up on my data structures for what would work well there.

>>713669221
but video games

>>713669170
It's not about the games I personally care to play, but simply that customers aren't robbed of the games they paid for. Let's say Concord shut down after a year instead of two weeks and was rendered unplayable with no refunds. That would be ethically wrong of Sony to do to paying customers.

>>713663235
>italians being undecisive faggots willing to flip-flop at the last second as long as it fits their everchanging strategy
classic

>>713668989
wait, let me watch a video by a faggot who was a nepohire manager of QA at blizzard 10 years ago and since then made a shitty undertale/earthbound clone in early access
he seems like someone who know gave dev, for sure

>>713666914
no one cares.
Your faggot idol totalbiscuit did the same thing. His normal voice makes him sound like a generic british drunkard in a medieval pub, he puts on the fake posh nobleman voice for content creation

>>713668989
>nobody disproved the guy who claimed he can fly by flapping his arms really fast
I wonder why

>>713669170
Wasn't The Crew the main catalyst that kickstarted this whole shitshow? Isn't that a single player game

But even for a live service game, there's no good reason for it to be wiped off of existence. Especially as a boomer you should care about media preservation.

>>713668989
His argument is that "you're demanding that all devs patch their online multiplay games to be single player games" which is completely unnecessary. Just let players host servers. There's no reason they can't do this.

>>713660728 (OP)
t.bobby

>>713669014
Except he didn't say no, he did apologise and then did the coward shit of deleting his apology. Which is classic for Maldvius Figtress the nasel voice of Blizzard.

Why is a website about video games so against preservation of video games and people owning the video games they purchase?

These threads keep constantly getting purged when we should have a permanent fucking sticky all the way until we have laws in place where the consumers aren't getting fucked over by the corporations.

>>713669170
>how many fucking games do you really need to keep forever?
The option to keep fuckin any of them would be nice, since AAA devs seem hellbent on shoving an authentication server into even singleplayer games now.

This is a practice that should never have started, period. It exists solely to fuck the consumer into buying something new.

>>713669170
>Boomer take
>Doesn't know about private server era
Yeah you should lurk more.

>>713669309
your power and internet company does though

>>713669332
yes video games are a thing
but vtubers are not

>>713669231
>Jason immediately opens up with victimhood on how he got death threats to garnish pity
>Dr K immediately knows he's a narcissistic piece of shit but has to tell Jason in a way that wont have him just cut off the stream.
>Jason just smugly laughs and doesn't believe what he's being told

Yeah Jason is straight up a sociopath narcissist.

>>713660728 (OP)
For whatever reason, people are obsessed with looking at a giant machine and trying find one tiny little thread that will make the whole thing unravel.

It's the devs.
It's the executives.
It's the board members.
It's the marketers.
It's the HR department and all of its extensions.
It's the activists.
It's the clueless MBAs.
It's the narcissistic women.
It's the weak men who let their blue haired girlfriends pressure them into destroying the product.

Though if the aforementioned thread does exist, it's not even directly within the industry itself. It's the socialist apparatus that gives institutional investors a seemingly bottomless supply of money with which to control the leadership of game companies along with applying direct and indirect pressure on those who refuse to join the machine. But that's also not something that can be destroyed by tugging on one single thread.

>>713669270
sweet i own f.e.a.r on steam and saw there was multiplayer competitive but doesn't work due to the servers being down i'll have to try and make my own for that

>>713669170
You know the cool thing L4D or CS 1.6? You can play them despite the fact the devs long abandoned them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETgRoQVV4O4

>>713669231
Im not talking about Thor playing a character, he is just that retarded and thin skinned. However DSP seems so cartoonishly stupid, bad at games, ebegs constantly in ways that make absolutely no sense and essentially makes a living from being a lolcow that there is a non-zero percent chance that he is actually playing a character like Caseoh or Bill Jensen. There is also the fact that apparently in ye olden days he actually was decent at street fighter tournaments and acted like a normal person.

>>713668989
Yes they did, multiple times over multiple threads over multiple Youtube videos and streams.
He even got the concept of MMOs being made into single player games wrong as his own example as that is exactly what he said you couldn't do with FF14 and yet FF14 is doing just that making their story, dungeons and raids singleplayer to future proof it when it is taken offline.
Using FF14 as an example of an MMO was his choice as well and he couldn't even get that right. He doesn't know his asshole from his elbow.

>>713669456
because you deserve to get fucked over for buying them in the first place.
>mu-muh games preservation
Imagine buying games instead of pirating. Doubly so for cucksoles. These threads are nothing but eceleb drama anyway

>>713660728 (OP)
He looks like a guy who is a couple months away from coming out as a tranny

>>713669536
DSP plays a character like LTG, off-stream they literally behave like normal people since I've met both in person.

>twenty years ago
>every MP server had server hosting functions for community servers
>now
>we just don't anymore
It really is all about control. Companies don't want competition from older (arguably better) products so they sunset them to force paying customers to buy the new product. It's the same thing with how certain physical technology will have obsolescence baked into the hardware.

>>713669456
I thought you would've known by now that game development companies pay for reviews, which means shilling here and on "news" websites. "News" websites also spend money on shills. /v/ is infected with shills, and it's why Hiroshimoot got rid of IP counts. /v/ regularly called out shills because the IP counter wouldn't go up, and companies were refusing to pay for the servers' upkeep until their "advertising campaigns" (shilling) were implemented in a way that's difficult, if not impossible, to keep track of by non-4chan mods and devs. So, the IP counter went away. Now you don't know how many people in this thread are genuine, and who's a paid "narrative framer".

>>713669536
-40 pounds and he's not half bad looking either desu

>>713669478
might be an AI experiment
aznMoot is pro-AI and most boards have concurrent threads related to it

>>713669170
it's really not about having all possible games, it's the age old tale of corporations having a chance to screw up people, and people not liking that. Really it's bizarre. I feel as if this campaign was realized 10 years no one would complain. Seeing people against that HERE of all places when 4chan was supposed to be the "anti establishment" , niche website is very weird. But to be fair times have changed and this is no longer an obscure platform. Still, really sad.

>>713669632
>It really is all about control
This Anon gets it.

>>713661070
Hey may have left Blizzard, but Blizzard never left him

>>713668724
I think it's his auto ban bot for people trying to type managem kek

>>713668948
Uh huh. So then who hired the recruiters? Listen, I'm trying to understand how the chain of command works. Recruiters don't just spawn out of nowhere. Someone hired them on. Who was that?

And for smaller companies, you say senior devs would hire people. But who hired the senior devs to begin with?

>>713669701
>BZZD
I don't get it

>>713669456
Endgame capitalism. You will own nothing and be happy.

>>713669327
Fair. Gamedev really is a different world from standard dev work, it's hard to go from the mindset of everything having to be scalable, resilient and maintainable to essentially hard-coding a user experience. I'm just lucky I get enough leeway as site reliability to push for my opinions of not enforcing opinions in our codebases, I couldn't imagine being a codemonkey for a AAA studio where you get no agency or input. The call center equivalent of a software dev.

its a chain of command. the higher up you are on dev, the more you answer to corporate. and the upper devs make sure to only hire lower devs who are aligned with their philosophy.

>>713669589
how is your pirated copy of wukong?

>>713669419
>Isn't that a single player game
Single player games can become lost media if the publisher pull it off the online stores or stop updating it to make it function on modern computer system. This is why every games need community supports to be kept alive because you can't trust the companies.

>>713669632
Exactly. It's never been about feasibility, it's always been about this >>713665182
These games thrive financially from the fear of missing out. The industry will fight tooth and nail to keep that.

>>713669419
Ross had been talking about trying to find the best way to stop games from being killed by publishers for some time before the Crew shutdown, he just realized that it was probably his best opportunity to actually make a move because he figured that Ubisoft was in violation of consumer law in multiple countries. But yeah, the Crew being shut down was retarded, it had multiplayer features but the game very much had most of its events and open world playable in a single player form.

Im glad jannies delete off topic threads to make more room for threads like this.

>>713668989
All of his arguments go like this: Argument A is bad because of B, and I know they actually mean to mention C, stop misconstruing me.
Argument A mentions neither and only have surface level resemblance to B and C.

>>713669761
did you just find out that you're color blind?

>>713669863
awwww the Switch 2 is doing so bad you need to shit up /v/ like this?

>>713669863
I'm pretty sure jannies like threads that shit on pirate

>>713665182
Didn't TF2 literally solved that problem (sortof)? You can play on custom private servers but to change your inventory, it needs to check in with the server,so you still need to buy shit.

>>713669536
I question if DSP's streaming career is actually sustainable considering how often he explodes over his financial woes. I keep seeing people say that he's actually benefiting from the reputation of being an e-begging faggot, but the clips surfacing of him malding over failed sub-a-thons and going entire days without donations I think proves his attitude is having a negative effect on his marketability.

>>713660728 (OP)
>wait a minute chat
>I have an idea
>here's something I come up with out of nowhere and totally didn't just read off a guide
people still watch this insufferable faggot?

>>713669953
>713669761
I don't get it

>>713669863
They should delete all gacha threads to make room for threads like this

>>713662463
Isn't the entire point of placeholder art to be used in the early alpha builds just to have something to, well, hold the place until the final product is done or development gets to a point where you may not even need that bit anymore? WC3 had a ton of placeholder art, you used to be able to still see some of it in the files.

>>713669830
That's not what lost media means, you retard.
If you can still run it on the hardware it was using at the time it was released or last updated, it's fine. It might need community fixes, it might need hardware emulation down the line, but it's not lost.
The crew won't run on ANY hardware, it's lost media because literally no consumer computer on the planet can run it, it's dead. Lost. No functional copies anywhere, ever again.

>>713664435
concord 3 times

>"we cant make live service games have end of service"
except we can

>>713670295
Activision, Ubisoft, any company, I don't care, circumcise this poster NOW

>>713660728 (OP)
i despise this faggot

>>713670295
if anyone debates with pirate about game preservation this example should be used. it would kill 89% of his arguments

>>713668549
>thumbs upping your own post
lol
lmao

>>713666813
It's funny because I see all of these white liberals saying we need more devs of x ethnicity and gender in games and all I can think is, "Why the fuck would you want to punish browns, gays, and women by having them work for shit pay in this garbage industry?" Do they like hate brown people or something?

>>713670049
I loved seeing him solving puzzles on the first try that you absolutely can't solve until you progressed further into the game, or used a guide.
His fanbase has to be just incredibly gullible children, there's no way a rational adult could take this clown seriously.

>>713670380
my cock is uncut and full of smegma for your mother to gargle anon.

>>713670130
Yes. But some Warcraft game had a placeholder loading screen left in because QA was told not to report it as a bug. So Thor argues that you should never do placeholders ever since that might happen again. He offers no solution for what to put instead of the placeholder graphics. Actually I think he even suggested that in this case the loading screen placeholder should have been a black screen. So I guess don't have graphics when testing your games.

>>713670420
good luck trying to get him to do that you would have to stroke his ego for most of it then use it at the end or it wouldn't be a long debate

>>713669759
HR
I have seen a company grow from around 50 to 400+ while i was in it, and it starts the moment you hire women in finance/legal/HR
One day you hang around with 5 people discussing how a game will look, bouncing ideas, planning shit, then another day some cunt in HR introduces a manager above you that will make things "flow better now that we have more people", then that manager will introduce another one under her that will "pass messages better", and that one will hire one under her, soon you are 3 steps removed from any decisions making. Blink and miss it.
And the more those women are ( who never have any game dev experience, they dont play games, they hate you and your field ), the worse things get.

Seen that company bubble images where management grows until a company project collapses? Basically thats what happens.
I have seen companies go public, and in reality it usually affects nothing as stock is either too split for majority voting option ever to gather, or is controlled by studio founders.

>>713670535
That is some incredibly retarded logic. Just because some placeholder art got left in by accident doesn't then justify the refusal to usage of it entirely. That's throwing the baby out with the bath water.

>>713670548
best method would be an in person debate which would make it harder for him to leave. and would also use a middle-man as a method of keeping it balanced and civil.

>>713670623
To be fair, Pirate seems like the kind of faggot that would keep an infant in his care trapped in a car in the garage so its whining doesn't "break his concentration" while playing Death Stranding 2, or whatever game homosexuals play these days.

>>713670287
This game was a piece of shit and people were retards for buying it, but it's still pretty fucked up how the game was just taken from them and their money was stolen because the devs were retarded hacks. At least with other shit games you still have the shit game to pretend you enjoy through your buyer's remorse. With Concord the shit game you bought just straight up vanished.

>>713670681
I bet once he was challenged and his arguments broken down he would just walk out like a bitch

>>713670681
Debates should always be done like this.
1. Question asked to person A.
2. Person A has 60 seconds to answer.
3. Person B has 30 seconds for rebuttal.
4. Person A has 15 seconds for concluding statement.
5. Question is asked to Person B, etc.

Good luck getting that to happen.

>>713664435
Atlus killed Shin Megami Tensei Imagine and SUED fans trying to revive it
I have played for years now, and still currently do, these two games that were killed by their initial developers, EA and Microsoft, these games being Age of Empires Online and Battleforge, both incredible co-op RTS games.
The previous developer teams actually provided the fans with toolkits to revive these games. These games didn't die because people lost interest. They didn't make these billion dollar companies enough revenue, so they outright just killed them.
Even as fan revival projects, they are getting thousands of players and have been expanded on by the fans with tons of new content.

>>713670780
Everyone got refunds, would make it fine according to stop killing games rules.

>>713669776
I think it would do some game developers good to truly spend some time learning engineering concepts. I'll be real, ideally, I'd prefer writing scalable, maintainable code, but there's been more than once I've thrown some truly vile shit out onto prod because the most important thing is always going to be speed when you work for users. The one thing I wish I could go back and redo though? It's where I began, I didn't know really where to start and I was the only one other than my manager on the team at that point.
Had I been a bit more knowledgeable about things, it would have saved me time, pain, and difficulty in the future, because where you start is going to be the backbone of everything.
Not everything needs to be planned out so meticulously, but some longer planning and software flow design will pay off a lot.

>>713663532
holy dosent know the point or can read batman! actual fucking retard.

>we are ok with losing alot of money


you actual fucking mong

>>713669170
What if, every time a movie studio made a new movie, they got to destroy every copy of one classic movie from existence so that no one could ever watch the old movie again.

>>713670836
thats a good method anon i wish it was used more

>>713670836
nobody can explain how they feel in a minute

>>713670681
>>713670824

>>713664435
I was about to say that I'd like to play Hawken again, then noticed there's a game called Hawken: Reborn.
After looking at the hate for the remake of the original, I'd really prefer to just have the original.
I did notice one Steam mention for a community effort called Hawakening; so maybe the game isn't completely dead after all.

>>713663532
>amerishart thinks hes the world again

>>713670865
and what about those that still want to keep playing and don't want refunds? devs should implement fan server creation when a game is EOS

>>713670865
That's a little better, but I'm sure there's people who still wanted to at least play their shit game even if it was shit. It was a hero shooter of some kind too, so I doubt it really had an online component complicated enough that it demanded anything more than a server host. There's also other examples like The Culling 2 where I don't think people got refunds (aside from the Steam support ones) and it's quite possible that NOBODY got to play the game.

>>713670604
Where does HR come from. You make it sound like the first HR cunt just spawned in out of nowhere.

>>713670535
He's right though, I cut my finger once chopping carrots because I was holding them like a retard, so now I don't use knives because they're not a good idea. I was a chef for 7 years by the way.

>>713671004
seems my point was proven but i would still love to convince him into one and get him stuck so he could get ripped into and get knocked down a peg.

>>713671125
not him but hr appears because of (((consultants)))

>>713671161
Based whole ingredient enjoyer.

>>713663532
Wouldn't be the first time the US gets to coast of the success of other countries, who got steam tom implement refunds again?

>>713670295
>>713670420
Nintendo literally turned this from a F2P always online game to a single-player buy to play experience. It's just a game now. It literally is the ideal of what SKG argues for, and totally tears down Pirate.

>>713671207
Where do consultants come from? Again, I'm trying to understand the chain of command. The anon before the last sounded pretty knowledgeable. So while I doubt his claims, I still figured I should ask questions in order to see what else he knows, and how it's all connected.

Consultants don't just magically appear and start bossing people around. Someone hired on consultants. Who hired them? I would like a knowledgeable answer from someone inside the business please.

>>713671125
They usually do spawn out of hell, but the reality is, legal is probably going to be one of the first things you set up - whether that's in house or outside counsel, one of the first things that will happen is they'll probably really push for an HR manager, in order to protect the company's ass.

>>713668885
>Asheron's Call 2
That was a thing, when the fuck did it come out?

>>713671357
>the first things you set up
And who is "you" in this situation?

>>713663149
>When the west killed god for most people the fanatics HAD to adopt something new
Well, memes is the biggest religion right now. With corporations, people hold onto their one favorite product and define the corp's entire history.

>>713671125
Growth, and then like this guy said >>713671207
Small company gets big and hires outside consultants to help them manage their business. Most of these are intentionally running companies into the ground so they can cannibalize it's assets.

>>713671197
backing him into a hypothetical corner and just ripping straight into him might be what is needed to break that ego of his

>>713660728 (OP)
Had a lot of fun playing this with friends on the 360, then it went away.
You can still get a copy from a game preservation site but otherwise can't buy it. Come to think of it you can download games like Freelancer from there too while they're not for sale anymore.

>>713671430
>Growth
Vague hand-wavy answer. Give me something concrete. I'm trying to put together the chain of command. who hires outside consultants?

>>713671363
Early 2000s. I remember talking about the discourse surrounding the game's drama in class with a friend. We were too afraid to say "transvestite" or "shemale" in case the teachers heard, so we were describing the community manager as "a guy who thinks he's a girl" in hushed whispers.

>>713663152
You are naive. He was intentionally lying about that campaign because he doesn't want to do it for his own game.

>>713671542
could he be sued for defamation then?

>>713671346
bosses see short-term gains stagnate and ignore long-term profits
bosses' company stays solvent but is slowly losing liquidity
bosses look for quick liquidity from any avenue possible (read: (((loans))))
loans have insane terms and conditions
in order to manage loans, bosses hire (((consultants))) to help manage company finances
(((consultants))) IMMEDIATELY notice where "profit leaks" are within the company
multiple "suggestions" are made to improve "efficiency", which leads to liquidity
one of these is hiring HR personnel to hire more employees
more employees forecasts company growth
forecasted company growth leads to more investments
loans + investments leads to liquidity, leading to gorgeous quarterly reports
except company is now a quagmire of debt, chains of command, and notice reports
liquidity is up, solvency tanks
with solvency gone, investors short the company
company dies

repeat with next private company that's noticing their short-term profits are "only" in the green, not the black

>>713671416
You - in this case it would be the founding member or founders. This isn't even necessarily instantly, but you are going to start bringing in people if the business scales, and that's when the shift starts to happen. Scaling also usually brings in some sort of outside investing as well, who also have their own demands.

>>713671656
guess its luigi time for those bosses. Except this time lets hope they don't stop at mcdonalds this time

>>713671656
Sooooo.... it's the boss's fault. I still don't know who they are. Because you guys say they're not CEOs. But you're using the term "boss" now. So I'm just going to assume that these "bosses" are the highest ranking members in the company. And you just illustrated how they sold out. The bosses are to blame.

>>713671830
Corporate structure is something defined per-organization. That too is something that can shift very quickly during growth.

>>713671750
If you are a founding member. Then presumably, you care about the product you're making, no? So then why would you hire people who undermine your own interest in creating a good product? Even if you didn't foresee your hires causing trouble. At signs of trouble, why wouldn't you fix it by firing and replacing the culprit?

>>713668309
Producer here.

I genuinely hate my position sometimes, and hate most of the people who share my job title. Once a company grows big enough you just become a human telephone. I wanna pivot into writing or just go full indie at this point because it sucks ass.

>>713671830
yeah ceo's whatever you wanna call them, the guy or gal calling the shots. i dont give a FLIP what their title is but this is how it goes for every business. they con their way into the next quarter garnering debt until someone comes to collect and a retard on the bottom rung is left holding the bag

look at the federal reserve for proof of concept

>>713671924
ok, but even so, why would I absolve the higher ups? It seems if you want to see real change, you need to change the upper structure of the company.

>>713671931
I think Shigeru Miyamot era is a good example where a game lover was owner and handled the company well but now a business major is running it and is just ruining everything.

>>713668989
He has no arguments and you should not engage strawmen.

>>713670836
Yes but with like 10x the time. 60 seconds is literally nothing.

>>713672107
Miyamoto is still a director at Nintendo. You're probably thinking of Iwata, who had his own faults

>>713672195
If you can't answer a question in 60 seconds then you're an actual retard and have no idea what you're discussing. That being said, if a moderator asks a question that can't be answered in 60 seconds, then it's not a debate, it's an attempted character assassination.

>>713670997
I can explain how I feel in 15 seconds.

>>713672212
thanks for the correction fuck how did i mess that up. need more coffee

>>713672305
In a debate there should be one big overarching question which the two people disagree on. You get the 15 minute block to answer the big question because you need to provide multiple arguments to support it. A 60 second answer would be fine for a Q&A or something, but not a debate.

>>713672392
Oh. My mistake, good point.

>>713666813
This is true in corporate as well, btw.
>t. former employee of an F500 in marketing
fundamentally why nobody makes anything interesting is because everyone has chosen to pretend to be retarded on purpose for no reason. And that is because many of the people above them simply are.

>>713665197
Lightning is an infinitely better port than nigsb-c.

>>713672564
whats f500? when googling i just get fire extinguishers and a magazine of the top 500 companies.

>>713666270
or you can stop being an adhd faggot and read it like a normal person