The entire future of ownership literally depends on how much drama slop YouTubers can milk from a YouTube controversy

>>713790004
3282 new signatures since this post was made.

>nearly 600,000
I can't believer we have people like fucking XQC, Asmond and Charlie to thanks.
This fucking sucks. Why are EU gamers so fucking lazy that they need their sloptubers to tell them to do shit?

All these eceleb communities overlap heavily with the same terminally online audiences, it's not gonna reach the goal unless an actual celebrity endorses it

>>713794738 (OP)
it'll probably end at like 800k, what a shame

>>713794738 (OP)
Wasn't this shit at like 490k before the drama started?

Best way to get this all the way to finish is to make up fake drama around that eceleb furfaggot, people love doing something to spite the degenerates.

>>713794857
>It will plateau soon.
>And if not, it will not reach 100% in 30 days anyway.
>And if it does it doesn't matter, they will probably ignore it.
>And if they don't it will probably not amount to anything.
>And if it does, it's probably for the worse.
>And if it isn't, I was actually manufacturing attention for it all along.

>>713794851
Its legitimately a word of mouth movement

>>713794857
shalom, rabbi

>>713794826
>Why are EU gamers so fucking lazy that they need their sloptubers to tell them to do shit?
This is the most active petition in the history of the EU, man. Most people just aren't familiar with this system, its a backdoor into the senate that doesn't get used much.

What's your favorite unkillable game? For me it's COD 2.

>>713794738 (OP)
My games work on my machine.

If it succeeds because of eceleb drama, then doesn't that say it was never about the movement? Even if you succeed, the means you took to get that result would run contrary to why it was started in the first place.

Why do you want all games to be single player?

>>713794738 (OP)
I hate that literal furfag more than mold man so the latter has my support

>>713794738 (OP)
unfortunately it will die down, the collective attention span of this generation is maybe in the ballpark of 2-3 weeks

>>713794826
Because the name is fucking retarded and misleading

>>713795047
I don't care how it succeeds, I care that it succeeds, so I can reap the benefits as a gamer.
If some wacko jewish vegan communist gay tranny in EU senate makes it xir pet issue for gay communist reasons, and pushes it into law, then YAAAAS SLAY QUEEEEEN I love it, no homo.

>>713794738 (OP)
lol clown world but at least that pirate faggot is making himself an easy target.

>>713795136
Every normie plays GaaS shit and is afraid of what will happen to his gacha waifus and skins after EoS, this isn't something people are going to forget

Facts, laws and details are boring and confusing; drama and hype is exciting.

This is why god's chosen look down on goyim, they know how frightenly easy it is to manipulate people. Terms and Conditions may apply

>>713795073
It's not. It's literally just "let people run peer-to-peer or community servers when you shut yours down". Shit that was commonplace for over 20 years, before shareholders decided its more profitable to introduce artificial killswitches that force you to buy new products when old ones are no longer at peak profitability.

>>713794738 (OP)
Britcuck here
Should I vote a third time or is it useless?

>>713794926
Doom piller are actual shills, don't assume stupidity when it's clearly malice

>>713795380
you can't vote

>>713795380
I doubt anything will come of it, those parliament petitions just lead to debates with 5 MPs that barely care.

>give me your server binaries

>>713795145
I'll bite. How is the name 'retarded and misleading'?
If anything, it's too short.
Stop Killing Games (and Make an off-line version available.)
But the name is what the goal is. We want companies to stop killing games, i.e. making them inaccessible.

>>713795380
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/countries/united_kingdom
there's some uk petition going on but i don't think you can do the eu one.

I'm all for more radical shit like abolishing copyright/IP law altogether or at least having something like "game's source code is open after 5 years of release" or "once a game becomes abandonware it cannot be brought back into a license". Being able to play a live service game indefinitely is a drop in a bucket. I voted for SKG, but I wish there could've been more

>>713794826
because most of us don't speak english, so unless you get italian youtubers and instagrammers to talk about it, they will keep living in blissful ignorance of any of this happening

The wave of sloptubers shitting on pirate isn't enough, fuck him completely. no room for recovery.

Leaked chatlogs where he's in the middle of a gay furry erp session, dox a child, brags about being an ex blizzard developer, then goes back to gay furry erping. This should be enough. Tell me it's enough to finish him off.

I don't think any of the games that would die are worth saving, but I also want the devs who made those shit games to suffer so I support it.

>>713794826
Because I simply don't buy live service games.

>>713795616
at least they can spell "dox" correctly

>>713795047
Yeah this anon is right, let's scrap the entire petition, make a new one and make sure no one covers it. That way we'll win honorably.

Greetings from Bijapur

>>713794998
this is the real answer
people just don't know about it and the jewish vampires DON'T want you to know about it

>Petition falls just short of goal
>Piratefag and others gloat about it failing
>Politicians see how close it got and decide to take a look anyway
That would be the funniest outcome.

>>713795886
>>Politicians see how close it got and decide to take a look anyway
this would never happen
if anything they would raise the signature requirement to 1 million

>this is fine

>>713795616
nothing wrong with any of this desu

>>713795618
>but I also want the devs who made those shit games to suffer so I support it.
bingo. i see so many /v/tards say that that don't play online only games so why should they care. this movement still applies. it causes live service games to be more expensive to make with more requirements to make them instead of just abusing a shitty gray area. the more devs suffer for trying to do gaas memes, the less slop there will be. and it prevents even worse shit in the future where all singleplayer games will require a private server to function like the crew.

>>713795886
i dont get why people things the suits would do anything even if they got their signatures

>>713794738 (OP)
I really want this to reach its goal. Because it will be so fucking funny when this gets up for debate in the EU and immediately they just ask why the fuck gamers are so entitled they think they deserve 100x the protections and benefits of any other entertainment medium in existence, then toss it off the debate docket instantly.
It would be better than any other prior drama leading up to it.

Is there any population-based logic behind one million signatures being the threshold for pasing, or is it just people liking nice round numbers?

>>713795615
this is true, in Poland still noone talks about that shit, american sloptubers would have to bend down to european streamers and ask them to promote it or do whatever, speaking for Polish communities, I wouldn't say they care enough to start an initiative, they literally need to be told to

>What was I supposed to do? Not leak DMs?

Looking at the other petitions that have passed, he should have called it Stop Killing Game, to trick people into thinking it's about animal rights.

>>713795513
Europe is a continent of geriatrics, the average age in germany is like 50 something. "Stop killing games!" sounds like a child crying about some bingbing wahoo shit when in actuality its about stopping companies from taking away the product that you bought and own

>>713796136
>they just ask why the fuck gamers are so entitled they think they deserve 100x the protections and benefits of any other entertainment medium in existence
that might happen. and if it does it's still a good opportunity to remind people that the only thing in their lives now that doesn't come with DRM is basic home furniture, even our whitegoods appliances are dangerously close to being remotely brickable subscription service machines

>>713794738 (OP)
I don't really care since I don't buy the kind of multiplayer slop this concerns anyway, but I just signed it out of spite because the FUD against it has been ridiculous.

>Pirate is the top result for the initiative, before the initiative's own page
Eceleb drama is rocket fuel.

>>713796394
What a clown

vote with your wallet

>but other people don't
good for them, i hope they got their money's worth

I wish I was still European.

>>713795632
Do you know it can be arbitrarily added to any kind of game?

>>713796646
I'm strictly utilitarian on this, if e-celeb drama is what's needed then so be it. A good thing done for bad reasons is still a good thing.

do any of the signers even care or are really informed about this or are they just zoomer zombies doing what their favorite streamer is telling them to do?

>>713796835
Does it matter?

>>713795047
So?

>>713796835
Nah it's just one guy with multiple personality that all agrees you're retarded

>Stop Killing Games might actually succeed because of e-drama over a lolcow

>>713794738 (OP)
>Some people say that this is the worst timeline, I disagree, it could be so much worse, a lot of people have no idea, but if you where to say that this was the dumbest timeline? yeah I can't argue with you. see ya

The most depressing part of Ross's new video was "all it'd take to get 1mil signatures and make the EU act on this would be pewdiepie making a video"

And it's true. World is such a goddamn circus.

>>713796960
it isnt going to succeed even if it gets 1mil

>Companies sell off the rights to some games they want to kill to a shell company, but retain ownership of the larger IPs
>Shell company goes out of business without releasing code or binaries or anything
>EU can't penalize a dead company, and since it doesn't belong to the original company anymore it's not their responsibility either
Why wouldn't this work?

>>713796960
I'm guessing the votes are going to deaccelerate and not meet the daily average quota by day 3. It's always the first couple of days that have the largest burst of votes.

>>713795278
do you think people like that ever look up from their pachinko?

>>713796001
>if anything they would raise the signature requirement to 1 million
It is 1 million.

zoomers are so useless and retarded

>>713797063
the jewish vampires win again

>>713796960
That's kinda how dropkiwifarms backfired. The trannies to get rid of the site but it only made it more popular while the trannies ended up being exposed as sex pests

>>713796394
Thank God he's so hateable. It makes more people sign

>>713794738 (OP)
No it doesn't, you're just retarded and do desperate for a tribe that you latched onto this.

>>713795632
They can still make a game unplayable on purpose so you buy the remaster.

>>713797025
how do you get the employees to bag hold?

>>713796394
holy shit cunt is such a massive narcissist

>>713797131
Jeet mad

>>713796394
>>713796725
Yeah, Ross is pretty funny
Chet's video is pretty spot-on, Ross is way on the left side of dunning-kruger. The moss may have infected his brain.

>>713797234
they are both p awful people

Just admit you fucking lost

>>713797249
What video?

>>713796738
They don't. They get their shit stolen.

>>713796530
> "Stop killing games!" sounds like a child crying about some bingbing wahoo shit when in actuality-
It IS children crying about bing bing wahoo shit.

>>713795510
>give me the server binaries i paid for
FTFY

I support right to repair
I support archive org
I support scihub
I support stopkillinggames
I denounce every attempt to weaponize IPs and EULAs against the customer.

>>713797025
sound like a lot of hassle compared to just developing a game with an end of life plan, considering that a legislation would require these services to have one when they first hit the market
It would also amount to a ton of bad PR in a world where everyone else comply

wouldnt this greatly increase the price of those games

>>713797317
His face is so fucking hideous man, the epitome phenotype of a dumbass overconfident furfag from furaffinity.

>>713797317
>side with the Empire
>do nothing
>Empire defeats the revolt
>declare you won

>>713796394
>Replying with a "your way or the highway goes both ways" to a message that clearly says it's not whether you support SKG or not
>Leak the DM as if he won
damn, he's fucking retarded

>>713797025
Yeah. Why don't everyone do this any time they would have gone into bankruptcy?

>>713797449
>he smugly proclaimed, on the vietnamese basket weaving forum dedicated to said bing bing wahoo

>>713794738 (OP)
I got two signatures for it, one being mine

I did my part, I'm sorry Ross

gamers are no longer epic, don't expect us, we don't rise up.

>>713795510
BASED

I'm not signing shit

>>713797318
He made a long video actually pointing out all the necessary consequences and complications of SKG that Ross and co refuse to accept, but I was referring to his appraisal of how these direct arguments with Ross have gone:
https://youtu.be/jOPqzsl7Ey0?si=rcn1y-IdiLBxVYPq

>>713794876
More like 455k. Now it gets around 50k daily so they might bag this in a few days.

>>713795632
You realize online DRM is also a "live service" that will kill your game at some point, right? That's in basically every game sold nowadays. We just want a guarantee that it'll keep working when those servers inevitably shut down.

>>713797589
>ross is retarded, because his argument is 1+1=3
I am not making a joke, that's what the guy in the video says. Its a quote from the video. I think he may be retarded.

>>713797589
ross and co and nothing but retarded grifters, no different from the rest of streamers

>>713797567
Why are the proponents of this so fucking cringe
You fags post awful doge memes and ancient retard-speak like an AI asked to imitate how 12 year olds talked to each other in 2005

>>713796107
Because they are required to write a legal evaluation at the bare minimum. And I highly doubt they'd just put in black and white that digital consumers have no rights.

>>713797515
ross goes over this
realistically, adding an offline patch would have a negligible cost, 1% of the total or honestly MUCH less than that
but, corpos being greedy, they can easily jack up prices by 20 or 30 or 300% and use SKG as the excuse, like they did with inflation and covid and tariffs

>>713797494
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS AND FISCAL QUARTERS AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>713797737
>>713797589
Jeet seething

Vote with your wallet, by getting your ID card out of it and using it to sign the petition.

>>713797726
No, anon, that's not what he's saying and you're retarded.
Congrats.

>>713797662
Yes, but actually no. DRM is just some wrapper without which the game still runs. Both pirates and devs themselves have removed denuvo from plenty of games without impacting the actual thing at all.

>>713794826
Hey I signed the petition a year ago

>>713797726
dude look visibly intoxicated, barely a coherent sentence

>>713797494
NOOOOOO THE MONEY HATES IT WHEN YOU DO THAT AND THE MONEY WILL GO AWAY WHEN YOU DO THAT
NOOOOO MONEY PLEASE COME BACK DONT LEAVE

>piRAT ROACHware is currently live and seething about people purchasing heartbound leaving a negative review and then refunding the game immediately
>reviews are 90% negative because of people doing this
kek sucked in faggot, i'm going to do this now too. gaben's very generous refund policy is such a joy

>>713794826
Barely anyone knew about this shit, nigga. I only found out about it last year from this place so the average normalfag would not even know about it.

>>713797741
tell me how you really feel.

>>713797775
>Dude it wouldn't cost anything trust me
>Source: I made it up

>>713794738 (OP)
No, I won't support european communism, thank you very much. The Free Market works.

>>713797494
>I support archive org
these faggots keep blocking URLs and taking down archives of shit people want the moment they become too popular or valuable.
I hope they shut down just to spite them.

>>713797589
>>713797803
>>713797737
>>713797249
SAAAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE PETITION

>>713797581
He can't even sign, he's American

>>713797858
>>piRAT ROACHware is currently live and seething about people purchasing heartbound leaving a negative review and then refunding the game immediately
BASED

>>713796136
this should open the door for software

>>713797858
thanks for letting me know this is a thing. i'll do it too.

>>713797589
Good lord, what an unhinged seething moron.

>>713797894
That's the price of staying up at all in this hostile landscape. Don't blame them for defending themselves from vulture lawyers.

It's literally all here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzYgMEdwbIU&list=WL&index=11

Jason is literally nothing but a NPD'er

>>713797934
Good point. We already pay licenses for software. Games are software. Get lost.

>>713797875
>reading comprehension

>>713797873
I feel like I'm tired of discord children raiding the board for e-celeb trash

>this might be something good/beneficial so i have to automatically take the most contrarian position possible, and actually le good thing is le bad and the person supporting le bad thing is le good

don't you niggers get tired of having to be opposite on literally everything 24/7

>>713796759
brit?

>>713797998
>things are bad
>they can't be better

>>713797931
Fuck, I should do that but I don't even want him to have a cent of my money for a single second of his life.

>>713798017
theres nothing good about this though, its like black lives matter

>>713797803
I don't know, man. I've read the SKG website, and it didn't just say 1+1=3. I think your guy might be mistaken.

>>713794738 (OP)
>makes this thread
>most definitely owns a switch 2

Okay.

>>713798010

>>713794826
Britbonger here, I would have signed it and I imagine a huge amount would have also, but we stopped counting as European and can't sign the petition.

>>713798103
good job you're being as contrarian as possible, this is exactly the same as black lives matter there's zero difference, very board culture you can sit at the /v/ cool kids table now my based kek chad

>>713798140
>leaves EU
>omg how what do u mean we're not europeans anymore??

>>713797867
It doesn't help it that the campaign videos were in english only and Ross didn't use his 2 braincells to maybe contact notable euro e-celebs to actually get them to advertise the movement. How fucking hard is it to go on twitch and look up the top 5 most popular gaming streamers for each EU country and tell them "hey there's this movement that will let you play online games for as long as you want. Might wanna give me a shoutout for $50?" Ross has to be genuinely retarded.
I'm eu myself and I know from 1st hand experience that most EUfags don't watch american ecelebs like XQC or Critial, they watch their own literal whos that speak in their mumble languages and think this is the shit.

>>713798017
Stripping rights from IP-holders and making entire architectures commercially unviable is not a good thing.
This is people with no foresight or understanding screeching that they want play video game forever vs actual adults telling them why what they want isn't that simple and that other people exist.

A pretty classic internet tale, honestly.

>>713798140
There is a UK stop killing game petition too

>>713798176
TRUE, that anon is a total dick for singlehandedly doing that

hope this fails so the normie faggots that watch streamers can fuck off from my board

>>713797823
That's one form of drm.

>>713798197
yeah it's childish to expect the digital equivalent of right to repair, post nose rabbi

>>713796136
having the whole thing being dismissed is still better than the current limbo we live in right now, where people BELIEVE that they can own things digitally.
shattering this belief once and for all would have value in itself. not the outcome ross wishes for, he genuinely wants to save as many games as possible, but we would finally have closure at least.
no more legal loopholes
no more grey areas
transparency is all i ask. if the EU gives up on our digital ownership rights like japan and america did, then i'll just never buy anything online ever again
it's our last chance to make things right

>>713798112
You had me for a second ngl

>>713796290
That's a cute gal
>>713796394
>was hoping to have an actual conversation
The fuck?
Didn't this faggot tell Ross to fuck off at every instance dialogue was offered?

>pirate everything
>no drm
>no always online
>keep it forever as a backup on my dedicated NAS
I techically already own everything.

>>713798197
>Stripping rights from IP-holders
you should have your voting rights stripped mouthbreather

>>713798197
>making entire architectures commercially unviable
not that anon but if live service games became unviable it would be the best thing to happen to gaming in decades. i'd support it twice as hard if it wasn't about preserving anything at all but rather just making live service games illegal.

>>713798232
>This is the same as right to repair!
Yeah, you're a child.

>>713798225
never gonna happen, me and my e-daddies run this board, bitch

>>713797934
Software that sells like a good, but acts like a subscription anyway.

>>713798249
>People believe that buying a game means they get to play it forever!
No, that's just children and retards.

>>713798312
Its literally a crime to create an emulator for a game that the publisher has taken down from market.
It is a crime to emulate vanilla WoW. You aren't allowed to repair the World of Warcraft that you bought, and that the company which sold to you has since broken.

>>713798183
I can bet you my mother's life that most EU gamers have never heard of ross or "thor"

>>713798183
Ross is too autistic/good to follow actual political strategies.
He would never consider paying someone for a shoutout, not because he's cheap, but because it's not right.
He probably didn't even intend to get this much exposure just from fighting Pirate

>>713798365
You got it the wrong way around.

>>713798312
I'm going to sign it 5 more times just so that you shit yourself in your synagogue out of rage

>>713798365
you would be right if the buy button explicitly included an expiration date, like live service subscriptions do
again, transparency
if digital purchases are really RENTING LICENSES, then remove the buy button and change it to rent, everywhere, with an explicit expiration date.
being legally defined as a live service demands specific requirements that a LOT of games shutting down nowadays with no refunds do not have.

>>713794826
Maybe because there was no advertisement for this, and no one even knows this exists?!
We NEED someone talking about this, genious.

>>713798262
I literally haven't bought a game in 19 years. I have three 18 TB HDDs full of installers, romsets, ISO compilations, romhack archives, movies, anime and shit
I still signed the petition because I miss the era where you could hold your own servers. I also greatly appreciate the private server culture so there's that. I haven't been affected by live service game slop in a long time but can still see the benefits of the stop killing games initiative.

>>713798448
Ross admitted this shit at every step of the way, that he doesn't want to do any of this shit. But alas, he got too bothered by the state of things and no-one was doing shit about it. So he became the call to arms

>>713797890
>ownership is communism
KEK

>>713795145
you retards never offer alternatives

>>713798183
I think he DID say that he did not want to be a nuisance and if I recall something about this being political so you never know how Twitch/Youtube would react to it.

>petition
Amazing how deluded retards are thinking it will actually matter even if it hits its signature goal and is tabled infront of the eu parliment

>>713798571
>We NEED someone talking about this, genious
And by someone maybe an european talking europeans. Ross is an american preaching to an american audience about a movement only european can vote for.

>>713794738 (OP)
if this ross nigga is actually serious about Stop Killing Games why doesn't he make videos for the German or Spanish audiences? Who is he pandering to the UK?

>>713798639
OH MY FUCKING GOD SO HE *IS* A RETARD!

>>713798614
he should've looked for someone to pass the mantle to once it got off the ground, then. if you aren't going to steer the ship, get the fuck off of the wheel. why commit to something with only half of your heart?

>>713798654
>>713798249

>>713798654
At least it was worth trying

>>713798725
Pass the mantle to who? No one ever stepped up

>>713796136
give up for the 3000th post of "heh...even if you get the signatures, it won't matter....."

>>713797905
This indian is more white than us.

>>713798725
He said that he's leaving the efforts if the initiative fails and that people are free to take after him

>>713794738 (OP)
Didn't this reach 50% in like the first week? Did shit deflate that quickly?

>>713794998
No it isn't, there was one that got 1.8 million signatures

>>713797858
These people are fucking retarded. If you want to review bomb at least avoid mentioning SKG or any other offtopic shit. Now the cockroach will be able to cry to Gaben and have those reviews removed for brigading.

>>713797905
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. I think that makes it even funnier.

>>713798729
>>713798785
You have too much faith in the democratic process my anons nothing will come of this whether it succeeds or fails and free to screencap this post if im wrong and i will put a shoe on my head with a timestamp

>>713798405
>It's a crime to make an emulator/server!
No it isn't you fucking moron
It's illegal to use protected documentation or decompilation to steal code/info and use that to make an emu/server.
If you can manage to reverse engineer one without cracking or stealing documentation it's perfectly legal.

You. Are. A. Child.

>>713795632
You can still vote for it.
Despite not living at some town farther away in my country, if there is a petition on fixing/building a bridge to make travel safer for people, I happily vote for it and even throw a small donation if I can.
It is nice to help people and advocate for stuff that is useful for others. Same reason why you take back your shopping cart or move a larger stone from the to the ditch so nobody hits it with their bike/wheelchair or generally trip on it.

You can do stuff that helps others even if it doesn't affect you right now. Do the right thing.

>>713798828
>than us
speak for yourself you fucking mystery meat mutt with 500 preservatives

>>713794738 (OP)
>The entire future of ownership
Who are you helping by spreading lies like this?

>>713798197
Wild idea, but maybe a business model SHOULDN'T be viable if it relies on violating consumer rights? If your company needs to do that to survive it needs to die.

>>713798197
>Stripping rights from IP-holders and making entire architectures commercially unviable is not a good thing
>because... BECAUSE I SAID SO OKAY??!

>>713796136
Nothing about the legislation would e about "games", they'd have to treat it as software
I always wondered why Ross never tackled it from that angle, he's either hyperfocused on vidya or knows that his only hope is to tile up manchildren

>>713798725
>why commit to something with only half of your heart?
Ross done so much shit and sacrificed so much that admittedly he can't even pay rent
Promoting, doing legal research and preparations, talking with EU representatives, you name it. Guy is just tired

>>713798798
i said look for, e.g. take an active role in reaching out to and talking to people, not waiting for someone to "step up".
>>713798840
if you aim for the king, you can't miss. there won't be a second chance.

>>713794738 (OP)
woah did it gain 100k+ new votes?

>>713798931
Blizzard sued and shut down many servers based on reverse engineering code, not including the leaked early WoW beta code. So... no?
Also Bethesda shut down a Skyrim multiplayer mod, for creating from scratch a server for that game, to synchronize 2 clients.

>>713798654
Citizen's initiative is not a petition.

>>713798197
>Stripping rights from IP-holders
It is absolutely a good thing. The fact that a corporate entity can own IPs, which were originally created for human artists, is a sick perversion of the legal system.
It's absolute clownshit that companies are treated like people and this entire notion needs to be torn down with extreme prejudice.

>>713798556
You are purchasing a limited license to run client software and access online services.
This is made clear both on storefronts and in the licensing agreement.
All of which is meaningless, because the actual demand is that "all games be left in a playable state."
You're basically just blanking out the actual petition and substituting what you want it to be. Because you're a child.

>>713798931
Breaking DRM is the illegal part. How would you get the game running without publisher support and NOT break the DRM? It's basically illegal in practice.

And they still actively go after perfectly legal emulated private servers, just because they can, not because they are illegal.

>>713798994
what makes you think he hasn't been doing just that for the past few years?

>>713798896
you seem to misunderstand the situation we are in
we are not doing this because we see it as the ideal way
we are doing this because THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.
it's this petition passing, or we own nothing and be happy, for generations to come
the chances are slim to none, but the alternative is holing up in my room playing my old ps1 discs til the day i did

>>713799101
>The fact that a corporate entity can own IPs
And before that an IP was owned by a person

>>713796290
Poles are so cucked you could shit in their mouths and they'd ask for more. Their society has the same bad habit of corpo worship as redneck America, in both cases it's usually the uneducated poorfags who bend over backwards so that corpos can make moar monies. For some reason these "people" are allowed to vote alongside the rest of us.

>>713799104
>licensing agreements
eulas are not legally binding
a main goal of this campaign is creating legislation that will throw all current eula out of the window
they will all have to br rewritten

>>713799131
>it's this petition passing, or we own nothing and be happy, for generations to come
You're not helping your cause by spreading hyperbolic lies

>>713798989
Sounds like Ross is just kind of fucking retarded.
Not my problem.

>>713797025
Do that few times and it goes under investigation, then when someone speaks up or leaks some e-mails it's fucking nightmare for the company, a PR disaster, and a legal battle you cannot win.
...Or you could just add the offline mode. Or rather, NOT REMOVE THE OFFLINE MODE THAT DEVS USE ALL THE TIME TO TEST THEIR SHIT.

>>713795513
Game Preservation Initiative
Game Anti-Extinction Movement

Hell, "Save Games!" sounds less alarmist than "Stop Killing Games!"

>>713795145
This. Should be something like "Preserve Our Games"

>>713799043
>Nuh uh!
Blizzard shut down servers that were made with code leaks
You're just wrong, anon. There's a reason Nintendo can't go after shit like bsnes.

>>713796394
>was hoping to have an actual conversation with you
THIS FUCKING GUY

>>713799104
It's fucking irrelevant if it's buried in the license agreement. Those are mostly void in the EU anyway. And if the button says "buy", then they are selling it as a good, which can't be taken away at a whim.

Just boycott Pirate's game and Rivals 2. Once they see how much of a liability this faggot is he'll be dropped in an instant. Spam Rivals 2 with claims that they want to kill digital ownership. See how fast they'll turn on this faggot.

>>713799221
No, that isn't a main goal of this campaign
You are ignoring reality and substituting your own assumptions

>>713799346
>If the button says buy it's a physical good!
It's fucking hilarious that you think your retarded semantic bullshit is the same as legal precedent
You're the sovereign citizens of video games

I'm not driving, officer, I'm traveling!

is this going to be more detrimental to the video game industry than helpful?

>>713794890
honestly worked for me.

The whole "I'm a dev, you're the consumer, you have to listen to me oooh being a gamedev is so hard you guys don't understand" bullshit is so obnoxious to hear that I actively want devs to throw more fits about it (and whoever this guy is, he's not anymore of a dev than an RPGMaker author is)

>>713798696
The videos are translated to all kinds of EU languages. How would he make a video in Spanish if he doesn't himself speak Spanish?