EEEEEEENOOOOOOOOUUUUUGH

Nothingburger. This is just promo shit. It's not like FF or Avatar where we're forced to have an actual set of it.

>>713804986 (OP)
Okay but like why did they use that quote for the fucking air shoes card? Even
>I'm the coolest!
would've been more appropriate geez

>>713804986 (OP)
shit franchise, shit games!

>>713805104

>>713805104
c

>>713804986 (OP)
will creams cunny be a card?

>>713804986 (OP)
>you can have Sonic the Hedgehog equip the Buster Sword
I'm going home, bros.

This isn't even a real set. At worst, the only thing I'll see on Arena are Sonic sleeves and avatars.

>>713805314
>you can have knuckles punching Aerith to dead using a T-45 Power Armor

>>713804986 (OP)
HOLY BASED

>>713805415
Ok, but we are gonna have to suffer through this shit

>>713805648
It's 2025. I didn't realize anyone still gave a fuck about Avatar.

>>713805313
faggot

>>713805648
lmao

>>713805942
le ebin reddit down vote man

>>713805104

>>713804986 (OP)
Mtg really has become cross over slop huh

>>713805104
2

>>713805104
3

>>713804986 (OP)
Oh boy I can’t wait for secret lair prices to get even more jacked up!

>>713805171
This, but with magic the gathering

>>713805104
c

>>713806031
Wait a minute

>>713804986 (OP)
I summom Cloud, and I sacrifice him, Spiderman and Sonic, to summon my Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon

>>713806193
Was there an Elephant critter? I don't remember.

>>713805104
g

Yeah, all the ones I'm posting are just reprints.

However, these ones are not. And they're legal in Commander and Modern lol

>>713806313
There was in SA2.
You could feed him to your Chao's.

>Secret Lair
Who gives a shit?

Imagine how smart R&D thought they were when they realised they could make a card create a Treasure token while adding an extra mana to the card's cost.

>>713805104
Why would Shadow say that? I was pleasantly surprised by the quote actually, it’s from Sonic ‘06 and it kinda made me want the card. Won’t be dropping $40 or whatever they want for this crap though

>>713806289
>Only now learning 90% of these thematic series are just fucking reprints but with artwork around the theme.
Yes. At best sometimes the legendary creatures are new cards outright, but honestly all of these have been flake bitch ass reskins at like three times the cost to boot.

>>713806292
Clever, but I'm not out yet! By sacrificing my Nazgûl, Tiamat, and Szarekh, the Silent King, I'm able to summon forth Dark Magician!

>>713806289
Thats what secret lair is.

>releasing all these second rate furries AFTER motherfucking Freya

>>713806453
>modern
nope, commander legacy and vintage

Imagine being Evan Stanley
>Create creepy Sonic fan comic about Silver where you have to constantly show soles and bare feet
>Fill it with homo-erotic undertones
>Somehow get hired by Archie to do art
>Get to be Head Writer once Ian Flynn leaves
>Now does promo art for Magic the Gathering

Yes. I'm mad.

You did get good pulls with the last set right anon?

>>713804986 (OP)
i'll wait for the hello kitty x mtg collab

>>713806793
Last Sonic game I played was over two decades ago, so I don't know shit about the lore or if this fits it at all, but bringing Split Second back out of nowhere as a mechanic for a legendary is cool lol

I'll never get what makes retards spend thousands on a fucking card

How do i get into mtg without needing to spend 70.000$?

>>713805104
Should've just used this quote. Wizards are so out of touch.

>>713807063
They had already brought Split Second back for one card in Modern Horizons 3 and for the Fallout fake set

>>713807139
Play Arena and spend your time instead

>>713805314
KIMINO TE DEEEEEEE!!!!!

>>713806978
I didn't get any exciting FIN cards but I did pull a foil Ugin, Eye of the Storms from the promo pack I got as a prize from the prerelease. Can't complain.

I'm just here to vent
Just played historic vs some subhuman monoblack faggot who literally just used Removal spells and Sheoldreds
I will find where you live and end you

>>713806793
>uncounterable boardwipes and big haymakers as long as you tapped a manarock to cast them
that's bullshit lol
>>713807063
chaos control essentially requiring emeralds to stop time. it works thematically

>>713806978
I got like a fighter chick with a white top and tighs, and a giant black ostrich like bird in Chinese I think language.
Did I do well?

>>713806978
I might grab some more packs today. I went ahead and just grabbed most of the FF9 guys from a local shop to build decks with, and I prefer to just deckbuild by buying cheap like that, but the appeal of GAMBLING FUN is drawing me in.

>>713806292
You activated my Spongebob trap card, this negates your summon and inflicts 500 points of retardation damage to your brain.

>>713806793
>Each spell you cast has split second if mana from an artifact was spent to cast it.
Fuck whoever made this, artifact lands are gonna be annoying to see with this faggot

>closest local shop price gauging the fucking regular FF packs

>>713806793
>Shadow dies to shock
He really is the Vegeta of the Sonic universe

>>713807345
Did you get the borderless for them? If so sleeve them

>>713806951
Alright /v/, best name you give an Eggman/Robotnik deck?

I hate the fortniteification of magic and no my sonic autism doesn't dissuade that. if anything it makes me even more critical of every card posted ITT. Ignoring the straight reskins and (trying to) ignore all the random elements that are clearly just there for the sake of commander:
>>713806453
why doesn't he have flash
also I get the cutesy "dropping rings" mechanic but you've already got knuckles for the treasure gimmick so the implementation feels tacky
>>713806552
why is he a glass cannon
>>713806619
why does she have haste she's like the slowest character in the games
>>713806708
why *isn't* he a glass cannon
>>713806793
ok honestly no notes from a flavor perspective this one's alright
>>713806868
more mechanically speaking but I feel like this one needs a limiter, either 2WUBRG casting cost to make it harder to fit in a deck or it depletes some resource every turn to tie back into flavor
>>713806951
ok I've been trying to ignore the commanderbait shit for the most part but "DO THING DRAW CARD" pisses me off too much to not at least acknowledge.

>>713807594
>why is he a glass cannon
he's 8 anon

>>713807506
>>713807543
Vegetamind

>>713807572
He's trolling

>>713807506
You play Memeander. You deserve it.

>>713806868
Wait, does this work on any creature, not just the Sonic ones?

>>713807831
Yes, but don't worry, card is shit.

>>713806762
Freya being an irrelevant equipment only mana dork that has zero interactions with dragons is fucking hilarious

>>713804986 (OP)
NOW we're talkin'

>>713806453
Let me guess, the treasure tokens are rings?

>>713807670
i'm not asking why he's got a /1 i'm asking why he's got a 3/

>>713807906
It's alright for voltron decks I guess

>>713807139
Chinese proxies

>>713807594
>why is he a glass cannon
I just know it’s from the same stupid westoid mandate that keeps shtting on Tails

>>713807989
Yes

>>713806868
First time seeing a colorless ecnchantment.

>>713807990
he needs the power to crew some of the vehicles
they could have made him a pilot and give the effect so that he could crew like his power was 2 more

>>713805104
I mean the scene where shadow says that line ends with him just running into a bajillion enemies with the air shoes

>>713806793
OUR HERO

>>713805843
They give a fuck about the original Last Airbender cartoon, everything else tied to the IP is just dead weight.

>>713806793
LIVE AND LEARN!

Where is my girl?

>>713808790
in my bed

I don't even understand why they did this to Magic. I mean I get it. It's about money. But the game was doing just fine there. Now games are going to play out like Spiderman flashing in to block Sonic only to be countered by Aang's Energybend. How is this not straight up killing the cash cow? And for what? Two years of cashing out before the game dies?

>no Blaze
>no Rouge
Who am I supposed to jack off to?

>>713808836
She's a lewd bunny, you're not special.

>>713806453
Aggro Decks are salivating...

>>713808893
Like you said, it's about money
MTG and D&D are the only two properties that are making Hasbro any money right now. So they're pumping them up as much as they possibly can.

>>713804986 (OP)
Can someone redpill me on Magic the Gathering? The only card game I bothered learning how to play was Yugioh

>>713808893
Fine is not enough
Companies must double their revenues each year or the investors would go away, and to them investors are worth way more than the integrity of their game

Called it a week ago... but I'm sure a million other people called it earlier. MtG is a huge crosswhore and Sonic has been getting around a lot lately. It was only a matter of time.

>>713809056
>3 color 4 mana aggro topper
Nah, card's shit
Literally gets mogged in Standard by the Mice Squad. Let alone in the formats it's legal in.

>>713804986 (OP)
Why mtg do crossovers now ?

>>713809221
It's mechanically the best card game.
But design-wise it became extremely shit since 2019 so there is not much to salvage anymore

>>713806868
>7 mana
>7 Chaos Emeralds.
Neat!

>>713809313
I'll give you one guess

At this point I don't know what's going on or who approached who. I know MTG is trying to be the slopnite Crossover of the tabletop world because Hasbro is desperate for money but Sega has pushed Sonic into so many Crossover cash grabs I don't know who approached who to sign off on this slop.

>>713807594
I welcome the fortnitification of magic. Actual magic lore has sucked shit for years. Like, give me a Spock card over the 50th Jace any day.

>>713808893
this is the logical extension of what they already did to "canon" magic, where the lore descended into marvelshit after they made planeswalkers not simply another card type, but recurring characters who needed to be in every fucking set and can't die so they have 50 variations apiece, then eventually descended into the same post irony poisoning cycle where every new set not only has to feature them, but half the sets are just what if bullshit to put them in dick and sharty scenarios

>>713809258
How did we go from Goblin Guide to this?

>>713809620
>It's another "MTG boomers pretend Weatherlight Saga wasn't already capeshit" episode

>>713805179
Knuckles never fucking said that

Is MTG the biggest example of the enshittification? This game has been on a steep decline since 2016.
>jacetice league
>extremely noticable decline in physical card quality in Amonkhet, nonfoils feel flimsy and foils curling out of the pack, unfixed to this day
>extremely poor balancing
>commander slop taking over main set releases
>UB slippery slope of "it's just commander" to "ok it's just modern" to now half of set releases during the year being standard legal UB
>fumbling in-universe sets so much with garbage story and hat sets that people are fucking welcoming the UB fortnitification because at least it has characters they give a shit about
>ADHD plane hopping
>Arena monetization being extremely F2P hostile, more so than even Konami's yugioh equivalent

>(presumably) all because kids don't play with toys anymore and Hasbro cannot get a single other division to make profit

>>713809851
Bloomburrow, Duskmourn and Tarkir Dragonstorm were good sets. Fuck the haters. I will never accept UBslop.

>>713806193

>>713804986 (OP)
just play eternal card game instead
>campaign
>PvE gauntlet mode
>multiplayer casual or ranked
>draft against AI or other players
>monthly draft tournament
>incredibly generous f2p model
>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs

Monoblack is so fucking gay and braindead, even MonoRed requires more strategy

>>713809851
When has MTG ever not had extremely poor balancing? lol

>>713809258
Yeah, it seems like all Sonic cards are for Artifact synergy more than anything and Treasure Token generation.
I dunno if any has a place in Vintage or Legacy.

>>713809221
it's the standard tcg upon which hearthstone('s original game, the wow tcg) and all of its clones copied and simplified stuff like lands and color costs into "this card goes into this deck and you can expend 1 more cost resource every turn"

while it's generally known for having a lot of interaction potential, in comp environments it's basically the same shit as yugioh where after so many actions you have either killed your opponent before they could stop you or cheated out a wincon board state that completely stops them from overwhelming you in the same amount of time and they just surrender. So most people play the singleton format where you pick a deck master and hope you respect the content by not simply doing the exact same shit you can in formats where 99% of all the cards are legal and winning on turn 2

>>713809970
Duskmourn shot itself in the foot with the survivor character designs and the redesigned tarkir clans were gay.

>>713806549
It’s a funny line in his first boss battle in SA2B after he gets hit once. Like Knuckles “oh no” in SA1

>>713809221
Coming from YGO, Magic having multiple formats is really nice, since if one format is having a shit meta you can just hop over to another. Commander (the most popular format nowadays) is also a lot of fun, it being a mostly casual format and having 100-card singleton decks allows for a lot of creativity.

>Paramount Movies
>DC Crossover
>Magic Crossover
>Sonic racing might actually be better than Mario Kart this year
Sega...I kneel...

>>713810138
When there didn't need to be multiple bans per year, and when playtesters actually playtested the fucking cards. Magic used to go years at a time without needing bans, they were a big deal. Now there needs to be bans every announcement period.

>>713809797
The difference is that the weatherlight story ended and all of them fucking died you stupid zoomernigger

I don't mind. MTG went to shit looong time ago

>>713804986 (OP)
Sega is fucking desperate if they're putting Sonic with basically everyone at this point

>>713810595
>Crossovers are signs of desperation.
Why is /v/ so retarded? They know nothing about marketing. That's why they're 99% poorfags.

>>713810175
I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. For the most part those sets were great.

>>713810595
Shut up faggot

>No Metal with all his forms
Cum on

I...I am trembling...Thank you, WotC...thank you...

>>713806313
There was in Advance, but I think that one was purple.

These are fucking sick

>>713810865
They can ban the mice squad if they want, but please don't ban my beloved nemesis
I love this card

What deck do I run if I just like gimmicky shit and fucking over metafags? Sorta like Gravekeepers in yugioh

>>713810865
No they fucking weren't and people like you defending it should just fuck off. Just because 1/2 cards look cool doesn't mean sets like Duskmourn, Aetherdrift, Thunder Junction and Murder aren't some of the most empty and boring sets ever designed.

They have no artistic vision for these sets besides references and just watering down stuff that was done better before. All the cool cards from duskmourn could have been from Innistrad with barely any changes at all.

>>713810926
>they

>>713810926
>they
>not even an attempt an androgyny
>clearly just some blonde twunk in a red vest
What was wrong with having camp gay guys who could accept that they were men?

Question(never rly played MTG) Currently, with all the cards the game has + crossovers, aren't most of these crossover cards just a re/skin of [insert vanilla card that already has same effect here]?

MAN MADE HORRORS

>>713811130
Yes, if you see a second name under the name of the card, that’s the tell that it’s a reskin.

>>713807594
>why does she have haste she's like the slowest character in the games
Not really, she's slower than Sonic and Shadow for sure, but she's always put into Speed categories in the games for a reason.

>>713811037
Omniscience Combo
QRD: Set up the game so that you pay 4 mana to have a 1/1 Omniscience on the board. Proceed to play the rest of your entire deck that very same turn.

>>713811037
Those don't exist anymore, the current best decks in standard kill on T4 or even T3. If there was a deck that could cheese out free wins against Red, the top 8 wouldn't be 50% RDW and 50% Izzet Prowess.

>>713810926
>their
>they
NIGGA....

>>713806762
Square barely gives her any love already, was bound to happen. No, I don't like that's the case.

>Sonic there
>Sonic over there
>Sonic right there
>Sonic below there
>Sonic EVERYWHERE
What's up with Sega lately? At this pace they will actually send the blue rat to Fortnite.

>>713811089
>Duskmourn, Aetherdrift, Thunder Junction and Murder
That's the thing, you're conflating kino Duskmourn with 3 shit sets Eh, Thunder Junction is not too bad. But it's not great either.

I hate sonic niggers like you wouldn’t believe

>>713808893
hasbro is retarded and needs to prop up the bottom line caused by toy sales sagging and culturally irrelevant IP so they milk D&D and mtg

>>713811556
Sega is striking the iron while it's hot from the movies. When your franchise gets a surge of popularity, especially if it historically hasn't been doing great for decades, you push it. It's that simple.
Do you think it would be better to just sit on their ass and do nothing?

where’s rouge?

>>713811089
You can't do an Innistrad set without having angels, ghosts, vampires and werewolves. Duskmourne feels a different vibe, even if they are similar. I liked Duskmourne a lot too.

He’s coming and there’s nothing you can do about it.

>sept 2020
talk about a boiled frog

>>713811556
Three successful movies from one of the biggest companies in the business will do that. Sonic Prime might have been a dud as a show, but Frontiers and Generations X Shadow sold well, and thank to said partnership with Paramount, the next Sonic racing game is gonna have Spongebob. At this point they might as well make Fortnight skins, just have Sonic, Tails, Shadow and Eggman and you're set. The only way this hype for the series is gonna stop is if the next mainline game is shit like Boom or 06, and I don't see that happening.
Just wish the comics were good.

>>713811881
>Make one of the best transformers movies
>Sabotage it with horrific marketing and retarded decisions
>Transformers stays unprofitable
>Use the flop as justification to stop funding all transformers movies
I hate hasbro like you wouldn't believe. Whoever greenlit those trailers should be shot.

>>713810138
RTR block. The single best period of the games existence, massive wide open and cheap standard, Modern topped out at like $400 not $2k, edh was just starting to get popular outside of the convention scene, legacy had just got green decks that didn't suck letting every color be played, vintage had a 5 mana standard uncommon enter the format and matter. Truly the peak of mtg.

>>713811037
white and/or blue tax cards for making people upset
red and/or black with cards like scrambleverse for making people seethe

>>713812156
which transformers are we talking about? The newer animated one?

>>713812127
brown people really are cattle

>>713812062
Boiled frog implies that the frogs didn't actively want to be boiled. The portion of the fanbase who actually cares and didn't want to be boiled jumped ship at modern legal UB. The ones who stayed are the target audience who pogface and nut to the thought of equipping Boromir with Shadow's shoes and the buster sword while buffed by Dr. Who, and unfortunately outnumber and outpurchase the frogs who jumped out.

>>713806619
it's her

>>713804986 (OP)
They almost tricked me into buying the Final Fantasy ones. Then I realized Magic as a game sucks, and why the fuck would I buy useless paper cards for $400

>>713807831
why wouldnt it?
what text on it would imply it doesnt?

>>713807139
Makeplayingcards.com
mpcfill.com
good quality cards, sleeve them and they're practically indistinguishable
if you have friends you could also play on tabletop sim

>>713812335
Yeah, Transformers One. It had one of the worst and misleading reveal trailers I've seen. It was released in late September, which is one of the worst months you can release a movie especially for a younger audience. It had close to zero advertisements or any kind of marketing at all. Some random guy on twitter did more to market the movie than Hasbro did. It is a genuinely great movie, and nobody saw it.

>>713812335
Nta but yeah, Transformers One. Really great set up with Optimus and Megatron being the best of friends, only for it to slowly unravel as the plot moves. Like a Greek tragedy, you know it's gonna happen, but it's how it gets there that makes the movie good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm30jTddwwo

>>713809851
>how dare you make collabs

Quitting mtg a few years ago was such a good decision. The game had been shit for a while now, but it was getting extra shit back then. Now it's EVEN more super mega shit

>>713811881
>murder MTG with fortniteification, hat plane bullshit for most of the in-universe sets, horrible balancing issues etc. etc.
>murder nerf by dropping any simple quality designs in favor of pumping out new lines that only work with different, shittier proprietary ammos every year
>murder transformers with >>713812156
the only thing i'm willing to give hasbro is that I was able to get some random booster beyblades recently for $10 instead of paying $50 on the aftermarket, and even then that's with a huge asterisk since TT had to tardwrangle them HARD with the X line after how badly they fucked up Burst

>>713811130
yes and no
FF and Avatar are both probably going to have like 400+ cards (25 in each precon and a base set of 300ish), and while some stuff is reprinted in every base set, FF for example was only 2 cards aside from basic lands
https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3AFIN+is%3Areprint&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
The commander decks will have 75 reprints apiece but that also includes the lands, so there's like 200+2 cards that are reprints with FF themed art compared to twice as many new cards, then there's the bonus sheet which is where all the cards that have SE stock art on them that are all reprints, which is about 50 iirc.

The crossovers that have sets and not just SL "drops" (this sonic thing for instance is just the 7 sonic cards and whatever they reprinted with sonic art) will have similar ratios with maybe more reprints in the base set

No full on commander Sonic deck? Damn...
Not like this...

>>713812925
>Bootlicker only takes issue with bringing up crossover slop and decides to run defense so he can :^0 when godzilla is equipped with Tidus's sword and sonic gems

>>713812016
Anon, duskmourn has ghosts already, just shitty horror movie ghosts. You can 100% make an Innistrad set that takes place in a mansion with no angels, vampires or werewolves. It doesn't give a different vibe at all, it's like saying a wooden house couldn't exist in Innistrad. Hell, Innistrad has electricity with the fucking frankestein guys. Just make it a smaller set about a demon taking over a scientists manor and is encroaching on villages away from the main action.

Done.

>Thunder Junction is not too bad. But it's not great either
It is 100% as shitty as the others. It was meant to be just the "villain" set because they just wanted to make a set with all the villains in the same place and barely gave a shit about worldbuilding or story. Same with duskmourn. They are designing sets on vibes rather than having good mechanical ideas.

>>713813241
they know they can make more money printing less product like this, they can't pull the sonic audience to playing a game that's barely cartoony and only occasionally panders to furfags so selling them entire decks that would have to also compete with other edh products isn't what Hasbro wants to do

>>713811262
That's because the whole speed/power/flying thing is retarded. She doesn't have any real power at all besides her hammer. I hate what they're doing with Amy nowadays. She sucks

>>713808893
>How is this not straight up killing the cash cow?
Because non-miserable people find that fun and cool? People like crossovers

>>713808893
actually it'll be legally distinct spider mage

>>713806793
>shadow encourages control play in chaos colors

>>713804986 (OP)
And here I thought mtg had already hit bedrock

Everything does a crossover with everything these days
When will geektards stop clapping and flailing their arms for shit like this

>>713807139
There's a program called Forge that will let you build decks using every card ever released and play against AI opponents or online if you can find another player, all for free. It also has a single-player campaign similar to the old PC Shandalar MtG game.
You could also download Shandalar 2015 off of internet archive and build decks using most cards from Alpha to Revised with select cards from the early expansions like Arabian Nights and The Dark. Can play against AI, multiplayer is broken.

>>713814137
>FF is the best selling set, beating out the second best selling set, LOTR
Not any time soon.

>>713805314
screw that, i'm having Doctor Who go super sonic and then have HIM equip the buster sword

>>713805843
you gotta remember, this is WotC, they made a walking dead secret lair in fucking 2020 nearly 4 years after everyone collectively forgot that show existed.

>>713804986 (OP)
Omg is that sonic the edgehog from sonic the hedgehog in the trading card game magic the gathering wow no way bazinga

>>713814164
Nearly forgot, 2015 Shandalar is patched to have a bunch of cards from Alpha to around 2015 era MtG when the dev abandoned ship after getting threats from some jagoff.

>>713807594
>ok I've been trying to ignore the commanderbait shit for the most part but "DO THING DRAW CARD" pisses me off too much to not at least acknowledge.
might want to read the card anon, he doesn't have a "do thing draw card" effect.

>>713814531
And most of them are fucked up coding wise. That's why Forge is just better

>>713804986 (OP)
what is even the point of magic anymore
>used to be rooted in western myths and fantasy
>now has crossovers with pop culture idols, comic characters, and even anime and manga
>>713805314
who the fuck was that aeon bitch anyway

>>713811379
Got my budget Freya deck laid out

>>713812127
It's crazy how there can be a successful video game franchise that has no good games under its belt.

>>713812702
>>713812741
Alright you convinced me, I'll watch it with my son.

>>713814671
I'm not a Magic player so I can't tell if the deck is good or not, but good luck on your matches anon.

>>713815097
It's not good. The formats where this deck would be legal will eat this pile and shit it out before anon even gets to play his waifu. Even at the kitchen table it's nothing special.

>>713814671
I would say how innocent if you were a 12 year old, but building shit like this as an adult is embarrassing.

>>713815362
>>713815964
Go be tryhard on /tg/, it’s a budget deck for casual play with a family member who wants to learn some basics.

>>713815362
Freya is a one drop retardbro

>>713809851
Bloomburrow was a fantastic set, and had some great art.
Personally as a huge FFfag I also love the new FF set
But the rest kinda sucks. Innistrad is way more interesting than Duskmourn, and Thunder Junction and Aetherdrift can both suck my dick. They even made Phyrexia no longer cool with their retarded comic book style multiverse bullshit approach.

>>713817192
I’m guessing Squeenix took a more “Do it right, or our lawyers will rape you into bankruptcy” approach than the Tolkien estate?

>>713809826
He does in Heroes

>>713804986 (OP)
WoTC is desperate to get new people in and turn them into standard players.

>>713814671
>no lands
Ngmi

>>713810926
his entire story is centered around finding the heckin catterino in the art btw, and its name is Mirri just for the nostalgia bait

>>713818268
20 Mountains in a stack, bottom-right

>>713818204
Sometimes I'm baffled by the popularity of commander compared to 2 headed Dragon. I think 2HD is much more fun way to play a casual, social heavy form of magic.

>>713812056
But in the stone age...

>>713809851
Everything must undergo enshittification because Lord Moloch, the insane demon god who rules the entire cosmos and hates everything good, wants the world to become the worst possible world.

>>713818204
>entrants need to buy a booster box to start
Damn pretty cheap entrance fee

>>713814701
This

>>713804986 (OP)
this is embarrassing
I can't understand how mtg fans still exist.

>>713805179
heh, literally punches emeralds out of people

>>713818662
Normies don't like 2 headed, because they only want to play their game, and the idea of any part of their play being "stolen" by their partner makes them lose interest.

>>713818204
It's confusing to me, because there's an ABYSMAL conversion rate of commander/extreme casual format players ever becoming Standard players, while most Standard players will dabble in Commander.
It seems backwards to what they should be doing

Post those commander decks

>>713804986 (OP)
Fortnite: The Marketing

>>713817514
The Tolkien estate specifically asked them to do that. I’m glad I don’t care about LotR if it gets people this riled up

>>713810496
Routine bans are a good thing.

>>713818204
WotC only cares about EDH now. Competitive formats can rot now that they own edh

>>713819663
Competitive Magic is gone for the most part. Big events are a thing of the past even though YGO and other TCG’s still regularly have them
It’s just one big casual fuck fest now cuz Timmy got his feelings hurt every time he got blown out in Modern

Mtg should've died with scourge
Nothing but trash since the border change

Jund Creativity has been calling to me for months but the last time I went to the game store modern had like 7 people playing and I can't imagine it's gotten better after MH3.

>>713821030
It’s dead. Save your money and find a new hobby.
I replaced my love for Magic with lifting and fashion. I feel pretty goddamn good about myself. The only reason I’d ever get back into it is so I can show the people I used to play with how much better I look now than I did back then. I do miss those guys

>>713806313
>>713806470
>SA2
They appeared in Sonic Adventure 1, not 2

How much longer til WotC goes through firing a massive tons of employees and restricting MtG to:
>Enough with all politically correct crap
>Hire good artists
>Focus on Standard again
>Attractive women again

>Finally returning to Lorwyn after 20 years
>Maro puts out statement saying we should include politically correct crap and escapism is bad
>Finally get a teaser for it
>This
It's fucking over isn't it?

>>713808893
The average consumer has no standards. People unironically clap when they see it.
They don't care about world building or story, just mix it all together until everything is a grey sludge.

>>713821917
They will never focus on standard again. You are going to play on Timmy’s kitchen table and like it.

>>713820545
Didnt the most recent mtg tourney come out with nearly 50% being some izzet with the top eight having a shared cardpool of 40?

>>713822528
Idk. They only have Magicfest now instead of GP’s and SCG events, and there’s only 3 a year
It’s obvious they don’t want it to be a part of the game anymore. They killed the Gathering aspect of this game

>>713822528
>>713810496

>>713808323
There is currently 10 Colorless enchantements
https://gatherer.wizards.com/search?instanceType=eq~Enchantment&colors=eq~C

>Fortnite the card game.
Lol, lmao even. MTG nerds will still buy this

But cEDH is fun...

>>713822814
Never 5get the cedh player who had a twitter meltdown because his opponent bluffed.

>>713822874
I've not heard this story, but that sounds very on brand for cedh.

>>713806031
I can't believe the tails vs sephiroth meme is this close to happening.

>>713822814
I fucking love turning the game into Uno with Demonic Consultation and Thassa’s Oracle

>>713822741
Grim. Mono-Red aggro shouldnt need to mingle with blue filth

>>713819473
so funny how yugioh has the other player playing on your turn/trying to stop you and they got over it like that unless its tear type shit

>>713822941
https://xcancel.com/FrvntAlchemist/status/1759264141561208951

>>713822767
All those are from after I left the game, wew. Also I find it disgusting how wotc is messing with commander, that faceless one allowing you to have multiple commanders and deciding its color identity on the fly is retarded.

>>713823232
>and they got over it
People still bitch about ash blossom to this day. Kitchen table yugioh players fucking despise handtraps.

>>713823460
Ash is kind of bullshit. It does nothing against newer decks that can easily play through it to the point it almost feels useless while still easily stopping your favorite pet deck that hasn’t gotten support in years, but you still have to run it since it’s the best answer to Maxx C and the Charmies.

>>713823438
I left in Mirrodin, so I understand

>>713811037
If you could shit over metafags then that deck would be meta itself, retard.

>>713823460
kitchen table players are fucking shitters that dont know the rules and couldnt beat any decently made deck, they wanna self jeck off while playing something like dark world exodia
if you bitch about ash in 2025 your deck is a helmet deck with 1 line of play, its been nearly ten years have a fucking backup plan

so magic it's just crossover slop now?

>>713811037
There is no meta in commander
If you want to make the game miserable for everyone, play shit that slows the game to a crawl like Winter’s Orb and mass land destruction
Or just play Demonic Consultation and Thassa’s Oracle on turn 2

>>713823460
It doesn't bother me so much, it's more that both Ash and Maxx C are almost always default includes still as design space/deck building hasn't shifted enough to justify not at least having them on a side board.

>>713823438
backgrounds only work with specific commanders (iirc all of which are DND monocolor ones) so it's not actually that useful as the other backgrounds actually function as cards that give your commander effects

>>713822767
I actually really like the alt art for Echoes of Eternity

>>713824014
the non crossover stuff is arguably worse, there's like 2 sets in standard (which is now a 3 year format) that aren't gimmicky bullshit or memberberry shit

>>713806978
I got a foiled cactuar and some black red cards that go well in my kaervek deck.
>but cactuar is bad
I don't care, it enables really silly shit, even for enemies, so I don't mind the jank.

>>713810926
Why does he look like he belongs in the squirrel girl comic?

>>713806619
What a card.

>>713806619
well I need her for both of my equipment decks

Is there a reprinted sol ring with a gold ring for its art?

>>713823232
The main issue is the perceived theft of your "ally" using your resources, thereby robbing you of your plays (ignore how thibgs actually tend to play out, remember this is perception from the outside), moreso than people playing on your turn in general.
That said, casual players hate that, too. Casual players hate yugiohs handtraps, omninegates, ect more than anyone else, and it's part of yugiohs broader new player onboarding problem. Just slightly less so, because at least that's your opponent, who is supposed to be fucking with you, not your "ally".

>>713804986 (OP)
MTG has no identity anymore. They want it to be the Fortnite of card games.

>>713825175
Isn't it working out for them?

>>713823963
>Just stop playing what you like and play the newest slop
YGO players still bitch when I tell them I played full power Tenpai instead of Tear/Kash/Horus/Yubel slop piles. Haven’t bothered with that game since Tenpai got hit. I’d rather have fun than be forced to play Ryzeal/Mitsaurgi/Maliss slop

>>713825310
yeah but...

>>713824749
What a girl.

>>713825175
Mtg never had an identity. The first three sets were wildly different as it flung itself around.

>>713826693
There's a difference between doing different themes and crossover slop.

>>713809851
the biggest example is western society

Me when I see every Wizards of the Coast Original character

>>713825175
We just need a DC set putting the Batman who Laughs as the most dangerous being in all of Magic and it'll be right on Fortnite's tail.

>>713825083
casuals are players that dont learn the game or played a gba game 20 years ago, if 2000s yugioh was 2020 yugioh they would hate it too

>>713809851
>2016
Dragon's Maze was 2013 boyo

>>713825468
yugioh players bitch about anything
if they win its the best game ever
they lose its the worst shit I've seen in my life this game is gay bann maxx c (wasn't even played)

MtG is the Fornite of TCG.

>>713827254
KTK was a really fucking good set. The most fun I’ve ever had in standard

>>713804986 (OP)
How many of these were drawn using ai?

>>713813246
>HOW
>DARE
>YOU
>COLLAB

>>713818268
>lands literally in the picture, clear as day
might want to see a doctor
you have sugma

>>713820018
The game used to be in such a state that routine bans were simply not needed.

>>713827638
Nta, but the response was very clear when WotC first did this with The Walking Dead, and WotC basically said
>Fuck you, we’re doing it anyways
It’s seen as a huge betrayal cuz that’s what it is

>>713806978
Yeah I pulled the $400 surge foil Yuna commander from the only Collectors Booster I boughted

>>713809851
>jacetice league

>>713827883
i'm looking for where anyone asked or said they care

I tried getting into magic and card games as a whole but it is just not for me. I am too much of brainlet to make good decks or understand what is going on.

I like Aetherdrift...
I know
I know but
I'm just gonna keep on liking it.

>>713806453
>gotta go fast
terrible

>>713830959
It was alright. I really found the piss border cards funny and use them because of it.

>>713818204
I wonder if this will work.

>>713822113
okay, I'll bite. What's wrong with this image and how is it woke

>>713814651

>>713814651
>western myths and fantasy
>Ignoring the early foreign sets and mythology sets

Sonic is OP. Literal jet engine speed rape-fucking ancient thousand year old trolls for no reason

>>713814651
>used to be rooted in western myths and fantasy
Yeah the Three Kingdoms is completely western

>>713836606
sonic jobs to the king of trolls THO

>>713804986 (OP)
Humiliation ritual.

>>713834974
Its an asian artist drawing a pretty boy, thats it. Thats what hes msd about

Where's my sheep card?

>>713836782
The east is west adjacent

>>713807506
>artifact lands
not even with this commander I would risk getting vandalblast'd

>>713809313
$$$

I kinda wish the card art looked more realistic instead of cartoony. I need weird uncanny art

>>713844854
no more nightmare fuel Miku moments

>>713843521
ENTER

Is magic work getting into if I just want to play a pvp online card game?

>>713836507
If only that is what was actually happening, we would see MtG start dying and either course-correct or just die.
MtGfags are just eating this shit up because they NEED the next strong card. It doesn't matter if their deck consists of Fortnite, Horseshow, Final Fantasy, blacked LotR, Doctor Who or Spongebob, they NEED the next strong card.

>>713804986 (OP)
This is honestly insane.
The Final Fantasy cards were at leaat somewhat fitting but these both have nothing to do with fantasy and they look like absolute shit, like pictures from a coloring book.

>>713845350
Not in the slightest.

>>713804986 (OP)
THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE

>>713845494
man it feels like there will never be nothing like early hearthstone, it sucks.

>>713845350
Nay, the game hasn't been good for a long time

>>713806793
This is actually fucked. Split Second is absurdly broken in general and is so much more than just 'can't be countered'.

>>713845350

>>713804986 (OP)
This is awesome actually. The art is really nice too.

>>713804986 (OP)
Its insane how shitty The Sonic franchise has been doing before Frontiers and the Movies saved the day. Now they're getting all sorts of major collabs instead of shitty collabs like Hooters.

>>713845797
the card that broke /tg/

>>713811951
>When your franchise gets a surge of popularity
Surge confirmed!?

>>713806793
I can't wait to see niggas complain about this when they play teferi's protection and I play blasphemous act

>>713807594
>why doesn't Sonic have Flash
Tails has flash because of how he flies in when catching up in Sonic 2 and 3
>why is Tails a glass cannon
When you activate a Vehicle in MTG, it requires Crew X, which you meet by tapping creatures with a total power of X. Tails is a glass cannon because he's weak but adept at crewing the vehicles that are brought to the table and that he tinkers with.
>why does she have haste
Haste can represent more than Speed in MTG. Sometimes it's the eagerness of a creature, which Amy has in spades.
>why isn't he a glass cannon
Cuz he's Knuckles, rougher than the rest of them. The best of them, tougher than leather.

>>713846114
Hooters sucks ass anon

>>713808232
>>713806453
>Sonic drops rings when you damage him
Alright, that's pretty good.

>>713823328
>>713822941
>>713822874
If I understand the interaction properly, it was a multiplayer match in which one player said 'I am trying to resolve this spell in order to do X but I won't win off it resolving' and then instead did Y and won off the resolution.
I don't call that a bluff and would just call it an out and out lie. I believe that in a multiplayer game you should follow up on anything that you openly declared you would/will do ("I am going to tutor up an answer to that enchantment" as a way to guarantee that someone doesn't counter your tutor and then instead grabbing a combo piece for yourself is a nigger move). I don't have a problem with >implying things or saying 'I may be able to do this' but if you outright say/guarantee something I consider you a nigger if you don't stick to that claim.

That said, I'm all for angle shooting when money is on the line so whatever. The guy having a meltdown is obviously a fag.

>>713846324
Anon I know thats why I called the hooters collab shitty. And the new collabs good.

>>713846460
my bad

>>713804986 (OP)
With all the positive attention Sonic is getting with the good collabs, and the games being consistently good, and having the reputation as the best rated video game movies.
At this rate Sonic will beat Mario eventually.

>>713846430
>That said, I'm all for angle shooting when money is on the line so whatever
That's the entire point, there was money on the line. Do that in a friendly game and I'm giving your toilet an upper decker and not coming back. But in a cash tournament you better believe I'll lie my ass off to win.

I wish the darksteel citadel wasnt the only artifact land i owned.

>>713814651
>what is even the point of magic anymore
Well it used to be about powerful wizards traveling to different universes to build a powerful arsenal of spells by summoning the creatures, places, and things that they encountered on their journeys through the multiverse.
But now these days it's much more about powerful wizards traveling to different universes to build a powerful arsenal of spells by summoning the creatures, places, and things that they encountered on their journeys through the multiverse, and the change has made a lot of people pretty mad.

>>713845637
>This is actually fucked. Split Second is absurdly broken in general and is so much more than just 'can't be countered'.
Yeah split second on all your spells is absurd.

>>713808893
Half of it is that most people do not care. Some will brush it off as just being fun. Some are already ignoring anything printed after a certain date anyways. Some will just eat around their peas anyways. Some will justify it as already having a myriad of weird worlds and silly scenarios anyways.

The other half of it is that it is a well-known fact in every industry that "purists" are also always gonna buy in anyways. As long as it's not literally destructive and unplayable, they're still gonna be there. There is a VERY limited cross section of people that are entrenched enough to care but not too entrenched as to actually be able to leave, and it's why a lot of the people that will actually abstain from buying product usually were people that haven't been buying in ages anyways.

So it just becomes a matter of "why not."

>>713847118
>Well it used to be about powerful wizards traveling to different universes to build a powerful arsenal of spells by summoning the creatures, places, and things that they encountered on their journeys through the multiverse.
Wrong it was about Gods traveling to different universe to build a powerful arsenal of spells by summon the creatures, places, and things they encountered on their journeys through the multiverse.
Now it's about faggots.

>>713811556
Sonic would be terrible of Fortnite. Being scaled to the same height as the other characters would give him a headshot hitbox bigger than most of the other skins bodies.

>>713847492
Planeswalkers aren't gods, they are mortals that used magic to awaken a similar level of power.

>>713847710
>Planeswalkers aren't gods
wrong
>they are mortals
urza survived as a head, that's not mortal retard.
>that used magic to awaken a similar level of power.
So a god, are you fucking stupid?

I for one pray to our lord and savior planeswalker Jayce(fox)

>>713847846
Gods are divine beings who's powers are innate to their nature, Wizards are beings that have obtained a level of control over reality that they were not initially born with.

Which variant of an izzet deck should i make?

>>713848549
>Gods are divine beings who's powers are innate to their nature, Wizards are beings that have obtained a level of control over reality that they were not initially born with.
No such thing as a divine being only a power that is less understood. Get fukt.

>>713848619
What format, stupid?

>>713848673
Modern duh, who the fuck plays older fag formats?

>>713806619
Wait isn't this super good with that Gaia's Hammer card from the final fantasy set?

Magic is a neat game but i cannot be asked to learn its stupid fucking lore. No i will not learn any magic color combos gay group name, i will not call my deck a library, i wont call dimensions plains, i will not call Jayce my BFF.

>>713848769
Yeah that checks out.

>>713806619
So this can take enemy equips? Because it doesnt state one you control.

>I miss when Magic was seriou...

>>713848769
Yes. Colossus Hammer has been a regular combo with any auto-equip cards for a while. Hence why they brought it back for the FF set.

>>713848924
By the wording of the card it could, wonder if they forgot to put something on there.

>>713848924
Oh fuck, wait a second...

>>713813780
Paper cucks lost
Arena chads won

>>713814671
SOVL

>>713830959
I liked the gameplay of it but I simply cannot stand Wacky Racers: The Set
Thank god it looks like hat set season is over. Not even Edge of Eternities is a hat set, it seems. Looking forward to Lorwyn.

>>713846430
... anon, a bluff IS a lie
it is, by definition, an attempt to DECEIVE
and to deceive, by definition, is to try to get someone to believe something that is NOT TRUE
ergo, to believe a lie

>>713828367
I unironically agree with him that if you refuse to use the proper name of something in your complaint then you shouldn't expect a serious response back. People these days don't understand that there's a time and place for shit posting, and if you actually want things to improve shit posting in official feedback isn't likely to achieve what you want.

>>713845637
>>713847141
It's a 4 mana all pip card with 2 toughness. I'm not saying it's not good, but any format it's legal in should be able to deal with this.

>>713848769
Yeah. Good thing this shit isn't legal in Standard lol. Standard is cancerous enough as is.

>>713828367
>>713849937
No because garbage like the "5 elemental bitch retards from captain planet" as your story deserves to be mocked for it's childishness and utter failure to be original. It wasn't just shit it's the defense of it being shit by the creators that deserves should goddamn know better.
They'd done better before with every previous iteration of story, there was no defensible reason to allow them to take this step back and not be mocked for it.

>>713848924
Incoming Day 1 Errata

Alright anons, fess up

Which crossover would make you open your wallet

>>713850026
>It's a 4 mana all pip card with 2 toughness. I'm not saying it's not good, but any format it's legal in should be able to deal with this.
Goes without saying it's a bit fragile but why would you even get it out when you can't take advantage and set up a cascade of some kind?

>>713850314
Fate

>>713850243
I'm not saying they shouldn't be mocked at all. I'm saying that you need a certain level of professionalism in your response if you don't want them to instantly disregard and discard it.

>>713850243
Yeah sure cool, but if you WANT them to listen to you, you have to communicate like a normal person and not like a chimp, otherwise they'll just stop reading the second they see that kinda shit

>>713850538
>I'm not saying they shouldn't be mocked at all. I'm saying that you need a certain level of professionalism in your response if you don't want them to instantly disregard and discard it.
Not mocking them to their face is unprofessional and passive aggressive bitch behavior.

>>713850314
I honestly don't think anything would. I was so disgusted by UBshit invading Standard that I didn't pay a single cent for any FF shit. And I was looking forward to that set when it was supposed to be a normal UB set like the others. I love Final Fantasy.

I hate the concept of UBslop more than I love the idea of any particular crossover.

>>713850505
Alright, sure, but at that point you have a 5 or 6 or 7 mana card instead, by all intents and purposes. It's a cool ability. This card is not gonna be a threat in any format besides casual tables.

the worst disease to card games are netdeckers. this is worse than any crossoverslop

i homebrew all my janks. currently enjoying running 4x high noon in every sort of color combination

>>713848924
Yeah my uncle is a wizard and told me they're trying to make equip decks the next big thing after neutering red aggro. Keep an eye out for Iron lotus, tap for four mana but can only be used on equips.

>>713850593
>Yeah sure cool, but if you WANT them to listen to you, you have to communicate like a normal person and not like a chimp, otherwise they'll just stop reading the second they see that kinda shit
But see they are listening he even admits they feel bad about getting mocked which means they did listen and more mockery was needed to drive the point home.

So are they actually putting out a set or not?

>>713851318
It's not about getting mocked, it's about not immediately outing yourself as an internet retard and getting promptly ignored because of it

>>713851467
It's just three secret lairs and only one of them has unique original characters. All of which have been posted ITT.. Not a full set.

>>713851467
No, it's just a Secret Lair

>>713850314
there isn't one

>>713823438
>that faceless one allowing you to have multiple commanders and deciding its color identity on the fly is retarded.
It's actually really bad. It's the younger cousin to pic related, and they exist only as a safety button for the draft format of those sets if you ever wind up not drafting the appropriate pair of commanders for whatever colors you're in (Which almost never happens, and is why nobody ever uses them).

>>713851940
no one ever does draft commander either because why the fuck would you

>>713848924
Even though you're attaching the equipment to Amy, you aren't gaining control of it from the opponent. When it comes back to their turn they can just re-equip it normally from Amy to whatever creature they have.
>t. Magic autist

>>713852089
Because its the league format. See>>713818204

>>713851543
>>713851558
Thank god. I recently had a chance to learn magic, kind of, so now I still have no reason to get fully invested in it.

>>713848924
>Someone can steal my Excalibur
:(

>>713852251
that's sealed commander, not draft commander

and it's also retarded shit that no one will actually play

>>713852237
>Even though you're attaching the equipment to Amy, you aren't gaining control of it from the opponent. When it comes back to their turn they can just re-equip it normally from Amy to whatever creature they have.
Fairly certain people understand that but it's taxing your opponent for the requip cost and you can just steal it again.

>>713809313
Is a normie at Wal-Mart going to be more intrigued by a premade commander deck or the premade Sonic the Hedgehog commander deck?

>>713852559
A normie will cringe at both. Autists will love sonic though.

>>713852687
Nah man, normies tolerate kiddy colorful shit like superheroes nowadays, it's not the 00s anymore

>>713804986 (OP)
Don't cry little boy. This is the slop future you chose. Don't yuck my yum.

>>713848861
>No i will not learn any magic color combos gay group name,
than why even play?

>>713804986 (OP)
I actually hate this anti-hero thing they do with Shadow post SA2.
It's actually more impactful to see an assumably evil character sincerely 180 when they realize they've been brainwashed to do someone's bidding and they're failing someone important to them in doing so.

I know Sonic Team is wary of the comparison now, but see Vegeta nuking himself for another memorable case.

An antagonist re-affirming they'll antagonize isn't impressive to me.

>>713809851
It has the same problem that World of Warcraft has, it's only relevant because of the name and normies only know that, but everyone universally agrees that they are pretty shit.
Just the fact that they are spamming collabs now proves that they creatively bankrupt.

I'm sorry, why am I supposed to be mad that they're ditching classic MtG lore?

You guys seriously didn't think that was good, right? Diet Cthulhu Mythos, Diet Greek Mythos, Diet Japanese Mythos, that's what passes for 'lore' nowadays?

>>713853079
you need to learn the difference between lore and story chud. Jayce didn't Die on the cross for you to act like none of this mattered.

Is it easy to get into Magic? I heard a lot of people meet others that way, but I don't have a lot of money, same for Warhammer.

>>713853079
I will say it just feels weird that planeswalkers were their core focus for years and they are just getting nixed, a lot of normies I know love planeswalkers.

>>713853172
It didn't. MtG has never had good or even decent lore. It has some neat worldbuilding here and there, but the apex of MtG writing is two lines long and exclusively contained within the game's flavor texts. Every single time they tried going beyond that it immediately became extremely mediocre. I really don't understand why recently people try treating it as if it was 40k-level of quality

I wish YuGiOh did this.

The only reason you'd buy a pack of the newest hat set

>>713853705
YuGiOh's right are too complicated for that, since it's half owned by the family of the deceased author, half owned by Jump, half owned by the anime studios who worked on it, and half owned by Konami
Konami did try to do a few original cards referencing their games but it was references and not the actual characters

>>713853770
vomit

I knew a guy who had a black lotus when I was a kid, they were already extremely rare back then, they must cost a whole house now

>>713853813

Yeah, a few Castlevania-esque ones, some Gradius cards...

I like to come up with my own sometimes. Like a Sega deck.

>>713853079
>iet Cthulhu Mythos, Diet Greek Mythos, Diet Japanese Mythos, that's what passes for 'lore' nowadays?
I don't like Theros but the other two you mentioned are indeed kino.

>>713805171
I agree, sister. BTW, I hope your bottom surgery went well.

>>713853912
there was also 2 or 3 Metal Gear inspired cards, one was made by an actual artist of the series (not Shinkawa though, it was another, I forgot who)

>>713849937
You would be correct in concept if Rosewater didn't specifically cherrypick out the meanest and most posts to make the entire community who share that opinion look like meanie bobeanies anyways.
Someone could post an extremely sufficient post about criticism and game direction and he'd ignore it to reply to the one that says UNIVERSES BEYOND IS GAY BABY SLOP FUCKING KILL YOURSELF and snarkily point to the sales numbers.

>>713852089
I did for a variety of reasons
>Baldur's Gate was cheap as fuck to buy boxes for at one point because the only thing worth a damn in the set were the Ancient Metallic Dragons so I could easily get a box to draft with friends for like $70
>I'm a weirdo that actually likes Background as a mechanic and have built like 3 decks that utilize it.
>Commander Master's whole "You can use any two mono-color legends as partners" thing was fun as fuck, when the set came out I played an aggressive deck with Jazal Goldmane and some green legend (I think it was either Rishkar?) at prerelease.

I agree that Sealed Commander is stupid as fuck, at least in the way WotC is doing it. My LGS has a League thing where you get a Prerelease kit and 4 more packs and build a 60 card Commander deck from the stuff you open up, with new cards coming in from a weekly pack from any standard set of your choice.

>>713853824
Stfu Eldrazi are cool

>>713853079
>it was always shit!
Nobody should ever engage with this shitty "argument".

>>713804986 (OP)
>>713804986 (OP)
>>713804986 (OP)
>>713804986 (OP)
Okay when did Magic the gathering become Fortnite Battleroyale

I thought magic was like fantasy and dragons??

>>713854487
Nobody in the history of humanity ever got into mtg for the fucking lore, anon. That is simply the truth

>>713854215
oh it's cool, it just seems ridiculously strong.

>>713853313
>40k quality

Huh? Isn’t that just tabletop minis, I don’t remember them having that much lore

>>713854603
sonic has both of those. keep up faggot

>>713854603
Sounds like Sonic to me then!

>>713854724
he can't He's too slow!

I like MTG's lore and I still like it. Yeah, right now the hat shit sucks, but Tarkir was good. I have faith they will have Lorwyn be good once again as well.

My main fear with UB is that it keeps getting stronger and stronger. Soon it will be nothing but Fortnite shit.

>>713855574
They're absolutely toning down the elves' racism, for one

>>713854636
The lore was what was a bit more engaging as a player into piecing together this world and letting your imagination run. Even with the books that used to come with the older sets, while it being fleshed out may not have always been good, it was still welcome. Its why i think games like Vampire The Eternal Struggle was so intriguing too.

>>713855653
Yeah, that sucks. Not a fan of that. But I didn't like Lorwyn just cause of the racist elves lol

>>713855574
>Tarkir was good
They shelved the dragonlords off screen, it was shit.

>>713856137
They'll be back. Who cares? It's so obvious you're always just finding shit to nitpick about.

>>713804986 (OP)
Not on Arena so I don't care

Have any Final Fantasy cards made it into the meta?

>>713858520
Vivi is going to dominate the meta.

>>713858520
T1 standard material.

>>713858520
yeah some have popped up here and there, Vivi is a consistent one in most decks

>>713806619
as a wise fa/tg/uy once said,
>finally, an attractive mtg female

>>713858807
>>713858817
Dies to mice

>>713850314
Nintendo
Naruto
One Piece
JoJo
Mega-Man
Trigun
Devil May Cry
DC
and Soulcalibur could all be full sets as far as I'm concerned.

>>713817514
for the most part, but by god wizards did their best sneaking in what they could

>>713850314
None
t. proxychad

>>713860563
The top 8 of the PT was 4 mice 4 vivi. While mice won in the end, the vivi deck had to fight through red in pools just like every other deck. If Vivi does not die on T3, the izzet player wins.

>>713850314
I already caved. I bought two of the warhammer precons, the orks secret lair, and some of the transformers cards.

>>713860807
You know, you can actually save even more money on fake cards by just closing your eyes and pretending.

>>713806762
I got a bundle and box of that shit and somehow ended up with four Freyas and three foil Freyas. I think the universe is trying to tell me something.

I'm tired of my FF toy already, give me Avatar cards.

How many trillions has WOTC printed after they decided to go the Fortnite cross promotion shit with every established IP available?

>>713861060
FF is the best selling set they've made. The runner up is LotR. The marvel secret lairs sold out in under a minute (except for black panther's lol). It's not even close either. The market has spoken, and while I opted out, people make up for my lack of purchase in droves.

>>713861174
I don't play MTG, but I am in a lot of sports cards groups on Facebook I'm a boomer. The MTG groups seem to bleed into it so I've seen so many posts about the collector boxes are selling for like a grand or higher. Does it even have an exclusive 1 or 1 like the One Ring from LOTR?

>>713861060
a lot. people decided they like magic the game and not Magic the lore. shame They didn't learn from duel masters the things yugioh and pokemon learned in that creating a version aimed at kids would ensure future growth. if they had made a more appealing loot type character 20+ years ago they could have more people with a stronger interest in magic's own lore.

>>713861060
>Fortnite cross promotion shit
Fortnight doesn't do crossover shit, it just has skins of different character. They don't actually play any different from any other character.
Magic actually does a decent job of representing the guest characters and translating their mechanics into the game. This is Smash bros cross promotion shit.

>>713861391
Yes but not to the scale of the 1/1 One Ring. It has the gold traveling chocobo, 77 available. One has not been opened yet but un-serialized colored chocobos have been going for around 1500-3000 so this could easily exceed 10k or possibly even 100k

>>713861391
you mean chase cards? yeah it has one. the Golden traveling chocobo. there were otehr colors of it as well that sold for decent prices.

>>713861391
No. The one ring is the only 1of1 serialized card in the game. People just like Final Fantasy.

man i wish i got a good traveling chocobo. i just went to prerelease and got a signature one from my packs

>>713861060
It obviously sells extremely well. The larger question is
>is it sustainable
I.E. in 2 years will people still be going apeshit for a MTG collab with Peppa Pig and Glup Shittos or will people have worn out by now. Trading cards are back in a bubble with outright nonsensical secondary pricings and it's only a matter of time until it pops, will MTG as a game survive that after pivoting so hard into UB?
and
>is there player retention
Will people who buy into the game with a UB stick around. Will they convert into a full commander player? Maybe. Will they convert into a FNM player? Most likely not.

>>713861547
>if they had made a more appealing loot type character 20+ years ago
i do wonder what a MTG style Kuriboh or pikachiu style mascot would have made all that time ago.

>>713861629
I wish the other colors hadn't been so stupidly rare as well, I was hoping to get the non-foil ones.

>>713807184
>They should have quoted the worst tv show known to mankind

>>713806619
yoink

>>713841649
Never because idw is trash

>>713806951
Eggmanbros... We are... Ignored...

>>713862470
OUR Colossus Hammer

>>713848924
depends that's how it's written but there are several cards that have an "uhm, acshually" type ruling where it implies only stuff you control. Basically we're gonna have to wait for this to got to some tourney and see how judges rule it then.

>>713861547
If they actually bother making an anime for Destroy all Humans now that the manga's complete I think it could grab a chunk of new players depending on how it's presented.

>>713861547
Too bad WotC kneecapped duel master when they realized that they made something japan would like more than actual MTG

I'm riding the Bandai TCG train and I'm happier than I ever was playing Magic.

>>713807542
microcenter of all places has these fucking magic promo cards for msrp

>>713864113
Yui of all people would be the last K-on girl i think would know mtg

>>713806292
Base-line YGO is almost so iconic yet removed from the current YGO zeitgeist, optics, meta, whatever you wanna call it, that Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes and Red-Eyes, DM-Girl and all those big funni cards (Pot Of Greed) get to exist in Magic.
sigh
kinda would want em, but only as much as these Sonic ones Im just so over spending money on cards I never get to use.

>>713811125
You called them fags and told them to kill themselves because they dont center their lives around sportsball

>>713848891
GAIA!!! YOU LIVE???

>>713804986 (OP)
>EEEEEEENOOOOOOOOUUUUUGH
no

>>713818204
Why dont they just make the arena client much cheaper? people would play it if it wasnt so miserable.

>>713861035
A lot of anons will never experience the joy of having a 9y old gf. Imagine just having fun instead of dealing with a whores bullshit every day.

>>713861547
>people decided they like magic the game and not Magic the lore
It's less about that and more the magic built a system that was all encompassing enough to be applied to anything, so anything could become a magic card without it feeling out of place. Wizards has been playing with the idea of a sixth color for years, but they've never added it because the 5 colors, or some combination of them, already cover anything it could be.
Magic's system is so universal you can take any character, and ask 100 magic players what color(s) they would be, and the vast majority would come up with the same answer.

>>713807542
What are they charging?

>>713861629
glad they could turn MtG into even worse degenerate gambling

Only 7 months until Lorwyn, MTGbros... W-we can make it past all this slop...

>>713805648
It sort of fits the aesthetic at least, as weird as it is to have a 4 element setting in a game centered around 5 types of mana, I guess that leaves black as spirit bending?

>>713825175
>>713818204
I'm so glad i never got overly attached to this shitshow of a card game. Now i can just watch the trainwreck

>>713867701
is it actually dying? Arena still seems relatively popular despite being f2p unfriendly.

>>713867838
Arena is more popular than ever.

>>713868712
Did I miss something then? From what I hear from cg players I talk to you have to cash out a lot per set and its not very f2p friendly.

>>713868712
I'm so glad WotC is gonna have to cobble up some set for Arena as Disney refuses to let them use Spiderman in their online TCG because they already have Marvel Snap.

>>713868864
Me too. I bet the cards will be a hundred times more soulful, judging by the other "Universes Within" sets. Although this time around they have to do A LOOOOT of "ports" at once. If nothing else, it will be funny.

>>713805179
>not "Unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle. I'd rather flex my muscles"
dropped

>>713804986 (OP)
>>713805179
>>713805292
>>713806031
>>713806114
>>713806193
wtf is the point if most of them are based off miscellaneous sonic items and there's barely any ones based off the characters

>>713870808
Anon most secret lairs are just reprint of old card with new designs, or a guest artist doing basic lands. Recently they started to add 2-4 that are unique commander legendaries or reprints of old legendaries with new characters as artwork.

It's gonna get even worse before it gets better

>>713872837
It's gonna die

>>713874406
death will be a mercy

>>713871570
>vagina island

>>713804986 (OP)
>Magic used to have some realistic fantasy art with some vague lore behind them
>Now magic is getting pop culture injections that has lead to a disgusting homogenization of the brand
This kind of shit is a huge red flag which means that magic has no more steam to carry its own weight, and needs other pop culture stuff injected to it in order to keep going. I expect magic to be dead in the next 10 years

>>713850314
The Jackass Crew

>>713861629
>monkey pngs? that's so stupid bro
>bird cards? hell yeah
wotc managed to figure out how to sell people nfts, just make it a gacha