If this pace holds up for around 4 more days I think we could make it (since there will probably be a bump during the last week).
Please save us lord mold

>Leaks private messages
>They make himself look bad
Why is he so retarded?

>>713813860
damn seems like not a single molecule of his farts touched anyone else's nose

>>713813860
Pirate and who?

>>713814964
Penguinz0

>>713813586 (OP)
Normies and trannyfaggots destroyed games so i don't give a fuck, you deserve what you created
FUCK OFF

>>713815180
Oh
Pirate really leaked his own dms to try and make critikal look bad
Wow that is retarded.
Im glad this retard is getting his teeth kicked in by the community. What a shit stain

>>713813586 (OP)
>>713813860
E-celeb drama is not video games

>>713813586 (OP)
And then what?

These eu citizen petitions have no power and don't compel anyone to do anything other than some third rate clerk writing a two paragraph response how your cause is so hecking valid and the EU wishes you all the best?
You can literally look up every petition that achieved the threshold in the past on the same page and what response each got.
All of them can be summed up as "too bad, so sad"

This isn't how political action works.

You need actual representatives IN parliament that are familiar with the cause and willing to make it part of their actual working agenda. To spend time and resources arguing and defending the position IN PARLIAMENT.
Otherwise it doesn't matter what the cause is or how many people signed it. If there is nobody to defend it on the parliament floor then the entire process looks something like:

>Whats the next item on the agenda?
>Citizen intiative "Stop killing... games"? Umm ok? Floor is now open on item B2541. Accepting statements and motioning to deliberation.
>...
>Anyone? Does anyone know what this is supposed to be?
>Did anyone read the petition statement? No?
>...
>Time for deliberations has concluded
>The parliament will now vote on whether to dismiss the item
>Initiative has been dismissed 720 to 0
>Next item on the agenda is deliberation #423 on North Sea French fishing rights

>>713813860
>You've sent your toxic icky fan base to bully me! We're done!
He keeps saying this to everyone and its always fucking embarrassing

>>713815501
>Doesn't understand shit
>Writes a paragraph anyway
Getting nervous huh?

>>713815501
It's just e-celeb drama. If your internet daddy is mutahar, ross, or moist then you must spam the board with the useless petition and then accuse anyone making fun of it of having some WoW player as your e-daddy. This petition is just a proxy war that will continue regardless, better get used to this spam already.

is spain part of the EU? I'm just a mexican so I can't sign, but maybe i could send a superchat to Rubius (popular spain streamer) and ask him to spread the word

>>713813586 (OP)
SAGE

>>713813860
>"you know what? I hate this initiative and I will get everyone against it"
>wtf i only made a couple of vids why are you blaming me for misleading people? i had nothing to do it uwu

>>713813586 (OP)
>not linking the petition
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>>713816413

Woke movement

>>713816315
Go ahead. Doesn't hurt to spread it.

>>713813860
Do hapless virgin twitch followers really com their pants over someone unable to admit wrongdoing? Do they think that's what real men are like?

@713816521
>hbomberguy breathes air and eats food
>air and food are now woke gaiz

>>713816521
Nothing more cringe than culturewar fags trying to turn every topic into some sort of manufactured war. Contrarianism can't be your entire personality.

We should kill modern games more

>>713816521
He needs to make a video or it doesn't matter

>>713816521
Dumb dumb. Laws aren't retroactive.

>>713816787
Yuros don't watch him

did you remember to tell your europoor family to sign this thing?

>>713817009
The only europoor family i have is my sister and she does not even have citizenship yet.

>>713816707
If you sign the petition, it's going to hurt ubisoft and AAA devs the most.

>>713816521
Damn reconsidering my support. If only there was a way that both the ferret raping faggot and the obnoxious troon pseud faggot lose.

>>713813860
KWAB

Why are Europeans so lazy? If this was America it would have been filled out in a month

>>713817176
Look on the bright side, whoever wins, you lose.

>>713813860
>>713816438
He was saying the same thing on stream today
Whats funny is that he sounds like he's on some meds or someone from night media raped him for being an excessive tier of retard
Kekarooooooo

>>713813860
I once told a narcissist I know, "I think you're being close-minded," and they replied, "No, I don't give a fuck what you think." I think about that a lot.

>>713817286
ireland is the only english-speaking country in the EU

>>713813860
Leaking DMs is the easiest way to tell everyone you're untrustworthy
What was he expecting from this?

>>713816682
Yes.

>>713813586 (OP)
I don't care about Ross' autistic special interest and would rather he make more game dungeons more frequently

>>713816315
Sure thing, the more people people talk about it the higher chances are we get one million signatures before the deadline.

>>713817498
ok, stop breathing, it's woke

>>713817286
There's no European cultural integrity or identity. A bunch of play-pretend communist countries speaking 40 meme languages doesn't make for a unified culture.

>>713817620
Make me, tranny

>>713816521
Lawbreakers was fun.

>>713817697
I don't care
you proved that can be on same same as hmbomberguy, pro-breathing and pro-eating food

>>713813860
I watched Dr K psychoanalysis of him regarding earlier drama and he comes off as genuinely clueless why people get upset at him.
He might be an actual psychopath.

>>713818147
it was strange how many times he pointed out the guy had ego of the size of moon and his response was "nah, everybody else is wrong"

>>713813586 (OP)
CORPOSISTERS WE MUST STOP THIS

>>713813860
man, it would be pretty fucking funny if the initiative goes through just because the opposition a furry faggot nepo "dev" that everyone now hates because he roached out on hardcore wow of all things

>>713819574
I genuinely hope it does purely because I want to see this guy get pissed off. Even if it's just him going, "I don't care. Fuck off." on stream. That's all I need.

If Critikal makes a call for EU YouTubers to make videos about skg he could get it pushed past the million mark.
I hate that I have to put all of my hopes on sloptubers

>>713816521
Why are you trying to make me like hbomber, anon? Are you stupid?

>>713819841
If he made a video about his DMs getting leaked and had it be a call to action like, "This guy hates it, let's just piss him off. Spite. Spite. Spite." it'd go somewhere I feel.

Pirate Software is a contemptable fat gay faggot bitch retard cunt.
I don't even care about the legislation because it likely won't effect the United States. I JUST WANT TO WIPE THAT SMUG LOOK OFF HIS LYING BITCH FACE.

SIGN IT! SIGN IT EUROS! DO IT FOR THE MEME!

>>713819048
>do dumb shit
>refuse to admit guilt
>get smug about it
>people get mad and start trolling
>WHY IS THIS HAPPENING I DONT UNDERSTAND

>>713819829
imagine him launching his own counter movement, getting other industry plants and "devs" to out themselves just to fail and ruin their jewtube careers

>>713817286
Ross made the mistake of appointing The Crew as his prime example instead of Fifa.

>>713813586 (OP)
I just honestly do not care enough to think this is that big of a deal.

>>713820698
He tried claiming a few months back that devs had reached out to "thank him for speaking out" since they were too scared for their jobs to... Support the coproration's goals?

>>713813586 (OP)
I want to believe
but I have a nagging feeling that a lot of americans who only found out about it from the recent drama are signing without reading and a lot of these recent signatures are invalid

>>713817783
Had some fun movement, but it could have taken the opportunity to be flat-balanced arena shooter when everyone else was doing hero shooters.
What they did was dumb, unless they wanted it to die.

>>713816707
We should kill modern games publishers more

>>713817286
>american thinks europe = EU

>>713813860
>furry
>narcissistic drama queen
checks out

>>713817540
>game dungeons where he doesn't go into his autistic special interests and just goes through a game he'd been meaning to play and finds out it's a slog turning the video itself into the same thing

>>713820987
It might have been like, 2 indies or something. Even though this won't affect indies at all. Unless you're the kind who thinks your indiegame needs toxic shit like microtransactions, currencies, login reward hassels, battlepasses and other toxic shut

>>713813860
god I hope Charlie makes another video

>>713817620
troons love cutting off their breathing with ropes

>Once again it is up to Europe and Europeans to save videogames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wssFOFrXqNs

>>713816315
DO IT! I don't speak Spanish so i can't contact any Spanish streamers!

>>713813586 (OP)
I unironically want to play Battleborne again. It deserved a better developer and artist

>>713813586 (OP)
>713813586
>>713813586 (OP)
>713813586
Youtubers/streamers to ask to talk about it
>Destiny
>xQc
>LilyPichu
>Ludwig Aghren
>ImDontai
>JschlattLIVE
>Memeulous
Feel free to add recommendations, hopefully people will reach them

>>713813860
>feel instead of think
>calling the other guy out first
It's very interesting to analyze how people write I just need to understand it better but there's always something wrong with people that do that

>>713822069
*Ahgren
>Count Dankula

>>713813586 (OP)
I signed it and told about it my friends today

>>713822342
based

how could I tell me mom to sign it without sounding like the biggest most autistic nerd ever?

>>713813860
Holy fuck its been a while since Iv seen person with this much ego and just... fuck me he is awful. I heard he looks up solutions to games to beat them on stream to show how smart he is.

>>713816315
Do it.

>>713822782
take a photo of her id and sign in her place
what she gonna do

>>713822782
I don't know, my parents and friends don't even know that i still play videogames. Playing videogames is looked down to in my country.

>>713817286
>If this was America it would have been thrown out in a month
Yeah you're completely right anon

>>713815501
>You can literally look up every petition that achieved the threshold in the past on the same page and what response each got.
but that's wrong lol
shills are straight up lying hoping you don't even google it

>>713822782
tell her if the initiative passes she will have to buy you way less Call Of Duties/Fifas/Maddens

>>713813586 (OP)
I signed

>>713813586 (OP)
and what happens when the goal is reached

>>713816586
>Do they think
no

>>713813586 (OP)
I'm only gonna sign it when it gets to 999.999 signatures

M A I N C H A R A C T E R S Y N D R O M E

>>713813860
Jason still thinks all of this came out of nowhere? What a retard.

>>713823475
We wait and see what law or laws the EU comes up with to deal with GaaS and games being sold as goods but being treated as GaaS. Once the EU implements thier laws you can expect that this will affect videogames around the world the same way EU forcing Valve to give refunds resulted in refunds for the whole planet and not just the EU.

>>713822069
>In english
Arch cast
Akkad
Fleekazoid
Sethtszeentach
Paul joseph watson
>in french
Maudin malin? I don't know

>>713823690
>EU forcing Valve to give refunds
That was the aussies. EU force Apple to start using USB-C and to stop throttling their older phones with updates.

>>713815317
You gotta understand that every single facet of Thor (real name Jason) is an affectation, he changed his name, he fakes his voice, he pretends to be a major game designer, he pulls out a whiteboard to explain the simplest shit. All his life is acting like he's an aloof super genius lecturing everyone else. And any opposition he encounters he always copes acting like he they just don't know any better. He literally did the "I'm sorry you felt I did something wrong" kind of apology, like a cartoon character. There' nothing he does that isn't to support his inflated view of himself

>>713813860
Jesus fucking christ, if this many people think you're wrong maybe you should sit down and have a look at your life.
I legitimately could not even comprehend being this much of a narcissistic fuck.

>>713823690
This petition should mostly affect upcoming games that are in the Helldivers 2 model.
>online game that is not being sold as a service but effectively has a lifespan tied to SONY's desire to keep the servers live
There are a lot of multiplayer games who's life is at the mercy of videogame publishers and that is never mentioned on their store pages.

>>713819574
Streisand effect baby, you love to see it.

>>713823858
>That was the aussies.
Aussies did not have the power to drive the change, EU taking action made this a global thing. Aussies were the first to go after Valve for no refun policy(i think).

>>713819574
I thought that drama was stupid, but I guess I understimated the possibility of setting the right stage for the future

>>713823970
He used media connections to cover it up?

>>713823690
>>713823858
even back then, I remember some people were coming out with this long list of problems that having Steam refunds would cause and look, guess what, everyone is fine, infact sales are up more than ever

The planetside 2 community should be jumping on this, it could literaly save their game

>>713824451
There are genuine corporate cocksuckers who are anti-consumer and don't want gamers to have any consumer protection.

>>713824213
Somehow I doubt "game journalist" (which are almost always completely in the pocket of the bigs of the gaming industry) would have covered it fairly.

what happens if they get enough signatures

>>713816315
>is spain part of the EU?
Yes.

>>713825186
The fact that some game companies violate consumers rights and the law will be brought in front of a parlement.
The politicians will HAVE to discuss the issue and launch an investigation.

>>713825404
So nothing will happen.

>>713813586 (OP)
God this thread is exceedingly brown.

>>713825457
Something happened every other time this type of initiative was successful in reaching its signature goal.

>>713825457
>So nothing will happen.
This is not the USA where corporations rule the landscape. EU is very pro consumer protections.

>>713825457
>doom doom doom
>let's all suck each others dick
Nigger ... do you know how cars companies ended up having to put sit belts in their fucking product?
Legit kill yourself, you're holding everybody else back.

>>713825186
It will enter the european parliament as a basis for new legislation
Big publishers will be shitting themselves lobbying to put it off or make it less harsh, while hopefully also preemptively preparing to actually make end of life plans for their games
I wouldn't anticipate them repelling it all together, even the biggest tech giants have been slapped back when they overstepped their boundaries, and not just in EU

>>713813586 (OP)
I stayed in a Hampton in Poland a couple months ago. Does that qualify me as living in the EU?

>>713825457
Steam Refunds exist worldwide because of things like this.

>>713825624
>>713825635
>>713825853
>>713826085
>dude trust me
Lol no thanks. Not signing this shit.

I'm shillin

youtu.be/zfh7IJqTnQ8

This eceleb drama is gay as fuck

What is this gay shit even about?

>>713817286
>If this was America it would have been filled out in a month
>IF

>>713826739
>pay for a product
>the corpo selling you the product can remotely kill it at any time for any or no reason
>you neither have the legal means to fix that product, nor are you compensated for it being broken
In this case it's focusing on video games only

>>713817286
Not every country in Europe is in the EU. The EU has almost half as many citizens as your AI summary is telling you.

>>713827005
>pay for a product
Not really.
You're paying for a service.

>>713826308
Alright then go be a nigger.

our response?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBVbdnBvew8
Does Playing Video Games Signify Low Social Class? Analyzing Finance with Nick 51.2K subscribers 45K views 2 weeks ago

>>713827172
great thread, retard.

>>713827110
Then put expiration date on boxes.

>>713827172
I have shitloads of money so I don't care.

>>713827110
EULA's aren't legally binding and don't mean shit

>>713827262
I agree.

>>713827273
Ok. Go ahead and fight them.

>>713827340
What do you think this is?

>>713815932
>Sony walked back the country restrictions
>Except adding Russian Federation
Based

>>713827402
I can't read your mind. I don't know what you're talking about when you say "this" with no context.

>>713827340
>Ok. Go ahead and fight them.
We are, with the stop killing games movement anon...

>>713827489
SKG wants to remove EULAs?

>>713827110
>You're paying for a service.
Where was it stated that i paid for a service?
>lol you can read it on page 37 out of 130 of the EULA goym
You better prepare your corporate ass for the big EU cock if this gathers the signatures needed.

>>713813586 (OP)
You are absolutely coping if you think it will make the quota in time, and I say that as someone who agrees with it.

>>713815932
why can't i find that interactive map with the countries anymore?

>>713827592
>where does it tell me that I paid for a service
>in the eula that you didn't read
>and don't tell me it's in the eula that i didn't read
ok

I don't get the point of this desu. If you buy a smartphone and it stops working after 5 years you don't go to the store and get a new one for free.
Realistically the best thing that could happen is having a warranty period for games. If a game or digital product within a game gets bought by a consumer, the consumer should have access to that product for 2 years, if access is denied the consumer is to recieve a full refund. Sort of how like the retards that bought Concord got refunded

>>713827693
digital products dont "break" so any effort to stop you enjoying them is entirely artificial. it's that simple.

>>713827693
retard

>>713816315
Yes

>>713827746
>any effort to stop you enjoying them is entirely artificial
Money isn't real?

>>713827986
>Money isn't real?
Nobody tell him.

>>713813860
Thor is doing this 100% on purpose, he knows this have a negative effect on him but also knows defend his points honestly will give him a bad look. So resource in lies and pretend to be retarded so his even more retarded fanbase believes everything he says.
Kinda genius in an twisted way but I don't think this will last forever

>>713828043
Okay then, give me yours.

>>713827986
Of course not.

>>713827986
>he doesn't know

>>713827110
Not really. You're paying for a digital product (or a "license" to access it) in most cases.
No matter if a service dies, you've still paid for that product or license and you still have a legal ownership over it. And this being a fact, you should either be compensated (paid back, at least a portion of the cost) or the game client should be patched and/or game server somehow distributed to owners of the product/license.

>>713827693
Bad comparison. It would be like buying a smartphone then Google/Apple deciding to remotely kill your phone. And even this is a bad comparison because you can't compare software (infinitely reproducible, preservable data) and hardware (physical/material items)
>the best thing that could happen is having a warranty period for games.
Well, yeah, that's one of the solutions for some games. Clearly state "This $60 game will be inoperable in 2 or more years".

Maldavius Figtree

>>713827746
They don't need to break though, even if the warranty arguement won't work there are lots of other ways to ignore this retarded petition. I'm pretty sure onlineslop games are already sold as licenses rather than the actual game itself. You're buying a license for a minimum of 2 years, every extra year after that is a free bonus, game shuts down 3 years after you bought it.

>>713828189
>you've still paid for that product or license
which rely on things you don't own and they told you specifically won't last forever.

>>713828151
>>713828174
I often forget that I share this board with children.

>don’t buy online only slop
>never have a problem
It’s that easy to just not consoom goyslop. You don’t need daddy government to wipe your ass. Anyone who signs this is a sheep.

>>713824451
not surprising to hear; some troglodytes will oppose any form of change even if it only serves to benefit them.

>>713827172
Buy an ad with all that money you're saving with the AI thumbnails Nick.

>>713813586 (OP)
>nooo not my precious live service slop
There's literally nothing of value being lost by these games shutting down.

>>713828302
What they told you in a EULA is irrelevant to the commerce system of the EU. The fact is that you've bought a product and you're robbed of it arbitrarily without being compensated for it.
>they told you specifically
In most cases no such warning is made. It's buried deep in EULAs which 99% of people don't read.

>>713828540
You bought a service.

>>713813586 (OP)
why will anyone suddenly only do something if this stupid petition reaches x number of retards in an arbitrary timeframe

>>713825186
it makes mustard gas

>>713828695
Think about it real hard
Or read and it will tell you exactly why
you stupid bitch.

>>713828695
That is how bureaucracy work nigga.

Statist arguments ITT preview:
>pajeet
>contrarian
>how much is Ubisoft paying you to post ITT?
>is this post AI?
>if you disagree you must be some other eceleb that nobody else but me has heard of
>I voted with my wallet but other people kept buying things I don't like! I'm calling the police!
>what do you mean additional labor costs additional money?
>OMG WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING CORPORATIONS WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS SITE?
>it's the same as selling poison baby food!
>/v/ was always in favor of government regulation of video games! It's just election tourists disagreeing!
>the EU gave us amazing regulations like being able to easily refund games you just purchased!
>EULAs stating the game doesn't work forever don't count because you agree to them after buying the game!
>oh wait ignore that part about games being easy to refund
and when you try to get them to think more than one step ahead about the effects of begging for more video game regulation:
>I don't care I'm unemployed with no future and I want the industry to die

It's how dishonest children argue.

>>713827657
Nta but I can't find it too, I only have the list with the numbers.
They needed to reach the treshold in at least 7 countries + 1 million statements of support.

>>713828842
jewish.

>>713828842
>t. No I NEED to abuse my customers

>>713813860
>tries to pivot from objective argumentation to subjective argumentation
This guy went on for hours talking to that jeet doctor about how he is an unfeeling fact machine, and now he's trying to do the "youre subjective Im subjective therefore Im incapable of being wrong" shit. This is your brain on r/atheism

>>713827693
>If you buy a smartphone and it stops working after 5 years you don't go to the store and get a new one for free.
I do if apple flips a killswitch that stops it working despite the physical hardware working fine
AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY HAPPENED
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61823512

>>713822782
ask if you can sign a official EU petition concering consumer rights in her name
if she asks what its about, say its about customers having the right to keep what they buy/preventing companys from taking back what you bought

>>713828608
no, see the first part of >>713828189

A service would be something that has a monthly/annual subscription, like WoW. If you're not told exactly when your access to something ends, then that "something" is not a service.
That's the whole point. The industry has clearly convinced people that games like Diablo 4 are not products but services, despite that not being a legal definition of a service and despite being sold and marketed as products.

>>713825186
>hey why did you shut down this MMO
>>because nobody was playing it
>oh that makes sense
the end
but at least the eceleb faggot who has his discord spamming /v/ will make money

>>713828540
>The fact is that you've bought a product and you're robbed of it arbitrarily without being compensated for it.
And what games are affecting the people? Oh, love service slop? Then there's no reason to support this initiative then. People who bought The Crew deserve to be scammed and should not receive any sort of sympathy.

>>713828842
pretty much. Niggers out here running a political campaign with this shit. They're signing up their boomer relatives who haven't played a video game in their lives.

>>713822782
just do it after sex, they'll agree to anything then

>>713829080
Even then WoW was originally sold as a game before it more recently became sub-only, it's used to be that the monthly cost was foe the account. Source: I have the physical discs up to Cata.
Private server hosting also solves getting banned/money stolen legally btw

>>713829080
>If you're not told exactly when your access to something ends, then that "something" is not a service
Online services will be available until further notice. I don't see an end date for Xbox Live either, but I'm pretty fucking sure it counts as a service.

>>713828072
You dont understand how much of a narcissist Thor is. To an actual narcissist apologizing or admitting fault is nigh impossible. The telltale sign of a narcissist apology is "I did and said the right thing, but its regrettable that YOU didnt get it and Im sorry it happened that way" effectively saying "Im not sorry, shame you got it wrong and your feelings got hurt"

>>713822782
My mom signed it, and she doesn't' play any vidya.

>>713828836
>>713828781
>sorry only 958,642 morons signed this looks like we won’t be doing anything
>WHATTTT you got ONE MILLION PEOPLE to SIGN THIS?? WE’RE PASSING A LAW RIGHT AWAY YABBA DABBA DOO

>>713829120
>no games are affected
Helldiver
Planetside 2
Come to mind in the forefront for me right off the gate.
Look retard I understand you're paid to play opposition, but you are shit at your job.
Quit and go work at a gas station insted.

mods sticky this thread already

>>713829432
Rules are rules

>>713829353
Xblive was pay per year/month not single pay = forever play
Source: i have a white 360

>>713822782
say it's for your homework

>>713829432
Bureaucracy ... that is how your gouvernement work friend

>>713820827
Have any fifa games been shut down? Might be a good idea for round two.

>>713829214
And the incest baby might have a brighter gaming future filled with retro titles that still work. Win-win, really.

>>713828842
You have never seen a game with player hosted servers because you are underage. The notion of allowing game servers to be run and maintained by the player base while shutting down official servers is not fucking rocket science. Shut the fuck up you insufferable bootlicking dipshit.

>>713829551
The monthly payment is just for online multiplayer.
The rest of the Xbox Live service was supplied to me as part of the console price. Account login, achievement tracking, game downloads etc.

>>713813860
I'm not reading any of this, qrd?

>political activism on /v/

>>713829484
You're the retard here, I'm saying that nothing of value is being lost by these games dying and the people who bought them deserve what's happening to them.

i blame the italians

>>713822782
I just told her to give me her ID so I can keep my games

>>713829880
They called you gay and adhd.

>>713829881
Welcome to 4chan. First week here?

>>713829881
Not the first time /v/ has cried about wanting dedicated servers either. And look how well it worked back then!

>>713829904
A hundred shit games being saved to be able to save a single good one is a fair price.

>>713828859
And it's 593829 right now. I wish you could see which countries had the most signatures in the last hours.

>>713829880
small youtuber made a final video for the petition, motivates a giga multi million subscriber youtuber to make a video. Now two giga youtubers are arguing with each other over the petition., dming eachother, and posting their dm's to the internet

>>713829974
obviously not since I posted something from over 15 years ago
maybe you really do need a history lesson in failed 4chan political movements

>>713829354
I'm aware of all his antics, but this time his behavior is way too retarded even for his standards and he already knows he can get away with this because his fanbase is retarded
My point is, narcissist people do and say retarded things to make them look good but they are very aware of what they are doing and keeps doing it if works

>>713813586 (OP)
Literally what is this?

>>713829881
It's not political.

It'll hit 60% soon. Maybe today, definitely tomorrow.
>Captcha: VGSKGK

>>713830180
Then why do you want politicians to get involved?

>>713830120
Failing, not failing. It barely matters. Project chanology was dumb but at least it was fun.

>>713829740
>The rest of the Xbox Live service was supplied to me as part of the console price. Account login, achievement tracking, game downloads etc.
OK, but you've bought the console as a product. Even without those services it's in a working state. Which is exactly what the initiative wants to do. It wants to ensure games are "reasonably functional", not "the game should have every single possible service still attached to it but run on the end-user computer".
If your Xbox got instantly bricked when the service has stopped, then it would be an actual problem.

>>713830164
>Literally what is this?
It's something meant to make it so videogame publishers can't kill games you paid for.

>>713830252
it was truly epic for teh winzors

>>713830250
It's the only way to get corporations to listen these days.

>>713829904
Yes ... and I thank you for being that low IQ piece of shit.
Because everyone that read your retardation here see what kind of people are the opposition.
You convince people better then I would by being that guy.
Wich is why I'm telling you
>if you're paid for doing this go work at a gas station
Again thank you for being a nigger :)

>>713830250
We don't.

>>713830335
have you tried literally anything else?

>>713830250
>Then why do you want politicians to get involved?
I can't fight billion dollar videogame corporations on my own but the EU can fight them on my behalf. It is literally what government is meant to do, serve the people.

>>713830164
see >>713827005

>>713830447
Such as?

>>713830348
>doesn't even know what his own gay movement involves
typical blind sheep

>>713830447
Yes.
>tried writing emails
>checked if i can file a lawsuit
This European Initiative is the only real way to reach those corporate faggots and grab them by the balls.

>>713830447
Why is it OK for corporations to lobby politicians and abuse political institutions, but when actual people do it it's somehow bad?

>>713830447
Like what, anon?
>inb4 vote with your wallet

>>713813860
I think he's legit hired to sabotage this movement, he worked as a fed which means he still is one

>>713830578
Corporations are a net benefit for society, people a net drain on society. It makes sense that corporations should decide policy, not people.

>>713830447
I've tried calling them niggers, faggots and trannies but it didn't work.
This is the only way left.

>>713829120
>>713829484
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at1k7qIo5dgPp6K1aCrYIyAgNOjY-IhF/

>>713830684
They are, as long as they get regulated. Other wise they'd still sell you the cheapest shit they can find for a fortune.

>>713829740
True actually, but something like that would need to be backed up locally.
>>713830298
He's talking about the digital goods bought via Xblive. Including downloaded games, xbox arcade, etc

>>713830684
>Corporations are a net benefit for society

>>713830684
>Corporations are a net benefit for society
No, corporations are a net benefit for their biggest shareholders.
They're only a "benefit" if they are being regulated by the people and the government.

>>713830684
Honestly can't tell if bait or real. Good work anon

>>713830346
You're the retard who buys slop that requires an internet connection to play. I'm sorry if you never had the chance to ever play a single good game in your life, but the shitty games that are being killed aren't worth saving.

>>713830684
>Corporations are a net benefit for society

>>713813860
absolutely raped by charlie what a retard

>>713830826
>Including downloaded games, xbox arcade, etc
OK, in that case they should've warned their users that the service will end in 1-3 months before they ended it. And they should've allowed the users to download local backups of these games.

>>713816521

>>713821312
>>713817783
He doesn't even know Lawbreakers is already playable.
https://youtu.be/RDfWXsPrJns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6musCfbnMc

the onlyfangs guy also killed video games?

>>713831039
Yes
But that's only hypothetically since this isn't retroactive.

>>713830982
Fagware is the one who leak so he doesn't see it that way, which is why he is totally fucking retarded.

YOU WON'T GET FREE GAMES FUCKING COMMIES

>>713830954
>I have nothing to say but I need to post something to feel good
Kek ok

>>713831253
Cool?
Never asked for free games.

>>713831253
how these games are free if I've already paid for them?
and how does a company loose its money if they are no longer selling them in the first place?

>>713831039
Anyone here remember how the shutdown for Live on the OG Xbox went?
There were some games and DLC for sale on that as well, none of which can be downloaded anymore as the entire OG Xbox Live was taken down

>>713830578
>lobbying isn't a problem as long as I do it
slave

>>713831393
Private property is communism

>>713831090
>kills video games
>kills his raid
>kills his game by never releasing it
>kills his reputation <--- you are here
>kills his career
>kills himself

>>713831253
Based guy, but nobody is asking for free games.

>>713831396
I have no idea honestly, Xbox literally doesn't exist in EU (at least in my country).

>>713831451
Citizens getting their members of parliament to do their job isn't lobbying, it's democracy.

>>713831253
I paid for them. The publisher is the one who wants them back for free.

>>713831538
This guy is trying to make communism work!
GET HIM!

>>713831113
Oh my god I didn't realise, that's even funnier holy shit

>>713831606
EU citizens like Ross
oh wait

>>713831538
Literally what is the logic behind this argument?

>>713831691
meant for >>713831173

>>713831756
Ross is a figurehead. He doesn't get to sign the eu citizen initiative. The guy heading your local charity against some rare disease doesn't need to have that rare disease to drum up support about it.

>>713817383
I mean, at least the guy is honest about it

>>713831309
So you don't deny being a retard who purposely falls for scams and then cries about being scammed.

>>713831884
You ask that as if expecting any kind of logic from this poster.

>>713813860
what's the source of this

>>713831253
>haha get it?
>dehumanization of people who were forced to follow their government or be killed!

>>713831253
Sorry, you won't get FREE SOURCE CODE YOU PARASITES
GET INTO REVERSE ENGINEERING OR GTFO

>>713832079
Pirate furware himself. Yes, he is that much of a narcissist that he thinks this is a win for him.

>>713832079
Thor. He just leaked it into his own Discord.

>>713831538
You have it backwards. Communism seeks to abolish private property.

>>713830447
Does voting with my wallet count?

>>713813860
>Throws insults at Ross
>Deletes those videos
>"You deleted those vids"
>No I didn't! Youtube autodeletes long VODs!
>Screenshots of him saying he deleted them on Discord server
>Stream clips of him saying he deleted those

>>713832124
>FREE SOURCE CODE
Free? People paid for those videogames that were killed. There was nothing free.

>>713832242
economics of scale says no

>>713832281
They paid for a compiled binary and a license to use it, that's all you get fucking commies

>>713813586 (OP)
Numbers aren't there, there isn't a million video game players in Europe.
The organizers are going to have to expand this protest outside the YouTube grifter bubble and into general consumer protection or it's going to fail

>>713831253
I have to delete all the ones I got from giveaways?

>>713832281
>SAAAAR I bought your companies pork, give me the pigs, farms, and factories to make the pork!

>>713832242
Does it work?

>>713832368
>a license to use it
and the videogame publisher made it unusable, i guess videogame publishers are in the wrong and own people compensation, good that we agree on this part

>>713832281
You're not really entitled to the source code though

>>713832494
Perpetual licenses undermine property rights. Licenses can and should expire.

>>713832242
No. See: >>713829992
If everyone voted with their wallets back then, we wouldn't be here.

>>713832124
Good that you don't have to do that then

>>713832449
>chef anon makes a compelling dish for other anons to feast on
>shitty response anon looks at this dish and slaps it on the floor
>he then reassembles it in reverse while uncorking a bottle of wine into his rectum
>proudly, he posts it
>"SAAAAR I bought your companies pork, give me the pigs, farms, and factories to make the pork!"
>he is promptly kicked out of the restaurant for being a faggot

>>713832494
>and the videogame publisher made it unusable
Well they did tell me that could happen.

>>713832571
Good thing the source code isn't required.

>>713817286
European union is different than Europe, you cretin. Also the original Ross video only had like 250k views, more than half of it wasn't from EU. Where the fuck should people learn about it?

>>713832620
They kinda did. Just against their claimed position.

>>713832691
Then why are you replying to him like you were demanding the source code be released when a game dies?

>>713816521
I support SKG more than I dislike hbomber. Begone, concern troll

>>713832445
Read >>713832124
>>713832494
lmao your license didn't granted unlimited access to the publisher servers, they had the right to shut them down if they wanted, you should have declined and not buy it in the first place

>>713829432
>anon discovers the government works with stupid rules

>>713832685
And now I'm telling them that we won't let it happen anymore.

>>713832835
LOL, LMAO!
Devs will just skip publishing in yuropoor countries

>>713832946
Feel free to give out examples of that happening, of large corpos skipping the european market rather than bend to the rules.

>>713815501
99% didn't meet the threshold

>>713832946
Yep. Microsoft, Apple, Google etc. all did the same thing after all.

Oh wait, they all knelt.

>>713832019
Planetside 2 is free ... you absolute sub zero IQ vicious nigger.
Find a bridge and propel humanity forward by eliminating yourself.

>>713827693
If you buy a smartphone, the company that made it doesn't remotely render it useless after a certain number of years, dumbass

>>713833248
>when theater kids try to insult someone

>>713832771
Consumers don't have a "position". Most just mindlessly buy stuff. It's up to the sentient people to actually figure out when there's something wrong and guide the sheep to salvation.

>>713832946
literally never happened, ever.
europe is the second biggest gaming market on earth, right after america
literally billions in revenue

>>713832685
Presenting statements where the only correct response is stabbing, and then not supply a stab option, is not just bad game design, it's completely unreasonable.
Needs patching.

>>713817697
But you said breathing is woke and trannies are woke by default you're not a tranny are you?

>>713833323
>If you buy a smartphone, the company that made it doesn't remotely render it useless after a certain number of years, dumbass
Give it another few years.

>>713832946
>Devs will just skip publishing in yuropoor countries
i hope
MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN
MEEEGGAAAA

MEGA will mog MAGA
>NA aim kekw

>>713833384
less relevant than russia, india, africa, latins or china award

>>713833410
The patch is not buying services that you don't think will last long enough to justify your purchase.

>>713833384
Not without England and Russia it's not.

>>713813586 (OP)
>not even 600k
not gonna make it. it's joever

>>713833384
Pretty sure china has taken the top spot in recent years. Considering how devs bend over backward to adhere to all the specific chinese regulations, it's almost impressive we have retards trying to prentend corpos would rather leave a large market than bend to the rules.

>>713830836
nice sassy gif, 2011 tumblr.

>>713832946
You're literally retarded

>>713832806
No one's asking for unlimited access to the servers? Just make the game functional offline if you want to shut them down. Literally not hard to do.

>>713833630
Eurabia without them is basically just france lmfao, EU should just stop LARPing with english and use French to cope with the reality they are just France.

>>713817540
with this failure he will be too dejected after this to make game dungeons at all

>>713833781
Not the devs problem, changing the core design of a game cost too much, get fucked live service commies

>>713813860

>>713833529
That's what they did when one of the FIFAs, one of the EU countries banned Lootboxes and the player went around the law and jusy imported the game from a neighboring country.
The Gray market is pretty big in Europe, they know they can get around any EU law by just releasing games in the UK and all mainland players will just import from there.

>>713829624
every single game besides the last three have been shutdown
keep in mind this is a yearly series

>>713813586 (OP)
The actual details don't matter much, the real question as seen by both politicians and voters is "Do you support increased EU-level regulation of video games?" And the answer from all sides is no.
If advertising gambling to children wasn't enough to get an actual regulatory framework around video games started, what makes you think this will?
At most you'll see PEGI start demanding that games include a "online services may be available for a limited time only" text somewhere on the box, because absolutely nobody wants to deal with the shitshow that would result from actual new legislation.

>>713833935
If MMOs like Star Wars Galaxy and City of Heroes could do have custom fan servers running, im sure it's not a fucking magic trick to make it work for other games. Hell, the new shitty "always online" Hitman game recently got a fan made replacement for their shitty server check.

>>713833331
Look at the group they're in (in the pic you replied to me with). WE WANT DEDICATED SERVERS is a position. The (attempted and failed) boycott was how the strategy. The vote (the only one that matters to publishers until something like SGK shows up) was for the opposite.

>>713832245
>>>Screenshots of him saying he deleted them on Discord server
>>Stream clips of him saying he deleted those
how did he respond?

>>713834137
whatever you say
the EU was retarded before. they might as well be once more
AFAIK boxes are only banned in NL

>>713834332
*The (attempted and failed) boycott was the strategy*

>>713834137
Except buying a game from a nearby schengen country is the most frictionless importing on the planet. Getting banned from a whole economic zone and being forced to import from outside of it is a different story.

>>713834290
cope, the EU decides something and its vassal states powerlessly add it to their constitutions noone can refuse

>>713830684
this has to be bait

>>713817286
If this was america you'd create a counter petition to give more rights to your corporate overlords and sign that instead.

>>713816521
It wouldn't make Lawbrakers playable(or any other shitty game). For that the game would need to have a dedicated enough community to host and maintain the servers

>>713816521
Forget about Lawbreakers, imagine if picture related was re-listed on Steam.

>>713833591
I didn't buy anything that made them say that. They said that all by themselves. They need fixing.

>>713834530
EU regulations can't overrule national constitutions nor for countries to amend their constitutions.

>>713834978
nor force*

>>713832124
The communist manifesto is great in the sense that it gives insight into how to debate like a jew. Too bad the premise is false.

>>713813586 (OP)
This shit is hopeless. Less than 4 days and it stopped moving already. Euros are useless.

>>713835294
>Less than 4 days and it stopped moving already
What?
>Signatures today: +32,342 and going up

>>713816521
Imagine making your entire opinion dependent on some random youtuber

>>713834978
>>713835045
lisbon take in all immigrants thing had to be revoted 10 times because the people refused previously

>>713835536
How is this related to national contitutions?

Didn't read any of that but as Karl Jobst knows the law doesn't care what you think.
With enough signatures, Stop Killing Games will get an assured WIN!

>>713835536
Sar?

It's weird seeing people support this purely out of loyalty to a YouTuber.

>>713833145
what do you mean

>>713835880
What about purely out of spite to publishers?

>>713835880
purely out of spite against a massive internet faggot

>>713835382
It was apparently +50k 2 days ago and +45k yesterday. It's dropping off fast. When the initiative was created the pace of signatures was significantly faster and yet it only got around 330k signatures in a month. At this rate it's going to stall between 700k and 850k.

Too many people are sitting here arguing with trolls instead of contacting their friends/family, contacting e-celebs in their country or printing those flyers that were made 10 months ago.

>>713835660
Billy supports personal liberty, not commie theft. Don't misrepresent him or you will be in the poorhouse like Karl.

>>713829214
this fucking killed me

>>713813860
Jason crossed the line. Cr1tikal's gonna go full John Wick on his fucking ferret ass.

>>713834354
Respond?

>>713836114
ok well then send this to more EU people.

>>713829992
to be fair this picture is disingenuous as fuck. Steam would show in-game profiles at the top of the list like this, and the screenshot is showing page 1 of 17, and even then its only like 20 people out of 800

>>713829484
>Planetside 2

>>713836114
Keep pushing. We can win this shit, I'm certain of it.

>Post YFW you're not an EUrabian
>MFW my country will never have this commie slop

I will never forgive yurofags if this fails.

>>713833552
>less relevant than russia, india, africa, latins or china award
Brown

Malding Faggot seethin itt

>>713836114
It was around 50k yesterday and 48k 2 days ago, also 32k is more twice as much as the daily requirement.

>>713813860
This guy was doing furry shenanigans on Second Life years ago, he always was mentally ill.

>>713836141
It's to stop companies from cucking you out of hosting your own servers when they kill their live service game.
What part of that screams commie theft to you?

>I want games to be actively worse
Why though? I get worrying about the devs having to put in extra time/work after the fact to make it playable but most of the time you already have all the assets downloaded so it'd be trivial to allow some kind of offline mode.

Or just not making an always online game to start with.

>>713836184
Recently I've come to notice that guys called Jason have a significantly above average likelihood of being huge faggots.

>>713836425

>Just shy of 60,000 today
Damn, oh well, it's still nearly triple the required daily signatures so that's still a good sign.

>>713836581
I've been saying this my whole life. I am old so my theory is every edgy faggot that named their kid "Jason" in the 1980s was trying to nudge nudge wink wink reference the slasher films and that level or reddit tier parenting results in the Jasons I have known my whole life. You remember when Skyrim came out and reddit was naming their kids Dovahkiin for the yummy wummy h*ckin wholesome chungus reddit gold? It's kinda like that but before reddit.

>>713836858
So Jason is gonna be the Kevin of the 2020s?

>>713836858
>there's a Dovahkiin getting bullied relentlessly in high school right now
Depressing

>>713837040
I don't get that reference. I am an old man and new things confuse and anger me.

>>713813586 (OP)
Bots?

>>713837140
Could be just a me thing but as far as I remember, people considered the name kevin to be mostly for insufferable little shits.

Swedistan hit 200%

>>713813586 (OP)
The virgin PirateSoftware
>Relationship is some fuckbuddy he met via second life
>Furry
>Nepobaby, can't do shit on his own
>Fake deep voice because he sounds like a faggot irl
>Fans are ill informed morons who leave when they figure out how much of a lying bitch he is
>Get's called a roach, pisses his pants over it
>Unearned smuggness
>Everyone he interacts with thinks he's an asshole
>Coward bitch
>Corpro bootlicker
>Spent 8 years on an RPGMaker game, still nowhere near done
>Still somehow can't progress on it despite having the means to do so

The Chad Ross Scott
>Happily married to a woman who supports and loves him
>normal
>All his accomplishments are self made through sheer work and dedication
>Voice so iconic it became the defacto voice for Gordan Freeman
>Small but dedicated fanbased that's stuck with him for decades
>Get's called moldman in jest by his fans, shows he can take banter
>Humble and good hearted
>Everyone he speaks to has nothing but nice things to say about him
>Punches above his weight for things he believes in
>Hates corpos and stands up for consumer rights
>Has made countless high quality videos over the decades, plus the upcoming movie he has HAS TO MAKE!
>Still manages to put out kino despite his quest to save video games taking up so much time

Remember kids, don't be like Thor the faggot. Be like Ross the moldman and you'll live a happy and fullfilling life.

>>713837040
>>713837463
ed edd n eddy did irreparable damage to the name kevin

>>713837463
that was just anti irish racism

>>713837624
I'm fine with that.

>>713837523
They have it easy.

>>713837532
>>normal
Are you mold?

>>713837523
>Binland :DDD and Sweden hit 200% of their threshold
>Germany with their ~130,000 signatures
I kneel.

>>713832946
Choose one:
>Spend a small amount of money and time implementing a basic end of life plan that is already implemented by default on anything that isnt a live service game
>Instantly lose over 10% of your revenue

>>713837840
>Spend money developing for 10% more revenue

>>713837532
its really insane how easy it is to make people like your stance when its a good one and when youre a cool guy and not a humongous faggot like thor

>>713837840
>longwinded yappucino that'll put investors to sleep
>ditch yurop and blame any losses and problems on drumpf and muh russia
ezpz, byebye poorope!

>>713813860
>ex-Blizzard
>total faggot
why is this so common?

>>713832946
This won't happen because there's money to be made but even if it does, the less Turkish "people" I have to deal with the better.

>>713837921
Frankly he doesn't even deserve to be called thor because that's not his real name, he makes people call him that because he tries to sound cooler.

>>713835898
there aren't enough successful initiatives in the past like anon mentioned, that passed the voting threshold to draw any conclusions like anon drew
most do not believe this will amount to any laws by next year. this is just one milestone
that's why this makes Pirate Asshole's meltdown even funnier

>>713837996
The most impressive part is that he's an EX-blizzard. Imagine being so much of a faggot that even blizzard doesn't want you around.

>>713835973
Well then you would have actually read it.

>>713837921
>when youre a cool guy
you eceleb worshippers are such embarrassing faggots

>>713838097
He was hired as a nepobaby because his dad worked there for a long time. His dad quit around 2010 and suddenly jason was also out of a job shortly after. Also he only worked in qa.

>Decide to play game after a period of time
>Money stolen
vs
>Decide to play game after a period of time
>Money not stolen
Simple as.

>>713813860
I kind of hate Critikal for turning into a clickbait slop factory but this is based

>>713816315
Baity is already covering this which is more important cause he has the audience that can actually sign the petition. Rubis and the like is all zoomers who could care less

>>713823898
>he changed his name,
Did he actually change it? I presumed he lied about it being his middle name as a way to force his own nickname. Not sure which makes him worse though.

>>713813860
>Hey, I covered something I am passionate about (As you are about your stance). I'm not asking you to be supportive, I'm asking you not to be an ass
>REEEE I AM GETTING HARASSED, HOW FUCKING DARE YOU MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT IT (Even though I've been making several tweets about it, including one about talking to you and doing a half assed apology that is "sorry you feel that way").
What a fucking ass. Literally all that he had to do was say "Yeah, I may have misrepresented the arguments. I still do not support it for xyz reasons, but those are my own reasons". That's it. That's literally it.

Hope some bigger players make a video about this, because this just dropped off hard, following this trend, in about 2-3 days, it will even fail to reach the daily quota.

bump

>>713838829
He behaves like an actual child. I remember getting into dumb arguments with people online as a kid and I did the exact type of doubling down and trying to prove I'm always right. His brain literally hasn't matured.

>>713838829
>Literally all that he had to do was say
He's a narcissist. Admitting fault is not what he does.

>~30k today instead of 40k
It's over bros. The Youtube slop drama will only carry this so far...

>>713817286
But it could never be America because we're literal cattles slaves to corporations

>>713838942
Does Pewdiepie have Swedish pull? He could leverage Finnish-Swedish autism and enmity by pointing out Sweden is 2nd in votes and challenging it to come out ahead.

>>713839139
Based PirateSoftware won, can't wait to see his gloating victory when it inevitably flops.

>>713838546
very well put

>>713838829
>>713839042
After the WoW drama, Ashens of Creation drama and the Dr. K video, he legitimately incapable of taking responsibility for his actions. It's not hard to say "my b" but it is never "my b" with him.

>>713839139
Even it fails, I'm just glad it has started a conversation. I've never seen more videos about the absolute fucking state of the games industry than I have right now. At most, it was talking about how woke and insular the industry is, which is true, but this is the first time since lootboxes that I've seen a lot of discussion about the actual business side of the industry.

>>713832124
>Bastardize the basic concept of commerce taking advantage of the legislature's ignorance of technology.
>Call anyone who oppose your neofeudalistic aspiration a commie
Fucking parasite.

>Hi, I'm just a normal person. Why should I sign your petition?
>>BECAUSE PIRATE IS AGAINST IT! YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS? HE DISAGREED WITH ROSS! HE'S A NEPOBABY INDUSTRY PLANT THAT IS TRYING TO SABOTAGE A CONTINENT WIDE PETITION BY MAKING A YOUTUBE VIDEO SAYING IT'S A BAD IDEA! ALSO HE'S A TRANNY THAT RAPES ANIMALS! JUST LOOK AT THESE TWITTER SCREENSHOTS!
>Uhhh... good luck with that... I have to go to work now.

>>713839397
>muh discussion
Useless if it doesn't change anything.

>>713839382
Considering his latest arc of Linux adoption and his latest video being a huge middle finger to google, I think that would be a good case.

>>713839457
This copypasta is getting stale.

>>713829942
Nigga I just signed it with my Italian passport.... LEAVE ITALY ALONE!!!

>>Hi, I'm just a normal person. Why should I sign your petition?
>Well, this inititative has the potential to stop a bad practice that deve-
>WAIT, WAIT LEMME POST IT AGAIN -
>UHHH... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT... I HAVE TO GO TO 'WORK' NOW.

>>713839468
>Useless if it doesn't change anything.
You just need to tickle the brain of someone like Ross again to get it going. I likened it to the lootbox thing because that had real world change that eventually did come of it even if took a while culminating in Star Was Battlefront II (EA version)

>>713839520
yes, you should stop spamming threads that make it correct

Your country isn't white unless it has a silver border.
Sorry.

>>713816707
It forces AAA corpos to waste more money and makes the modern games a tiniest bit less worse.

>>713839494
>and his latest video being a huge middle finger to google,
Pretty sure that was some sponsored ad.

>>713839614
???

>>713839397
>I've never seen more videos about the absolute fucking state of the games industry than I have right now
Maybe my algo is fucked but all I get are videos shitting on Thor, lmao. The best content that outlines the issue best is still the original video Ross put out last year, I really wish that one had just gotten the reach it deserved.

>>713820827
Sports games audiences seem to just accept that Ball Game 2025™ will not be something you ever want to play again in a decade.

>>713839636
Maybe, maybe not. It had an entire section on GrapheneOS which is still shocking.

>>713839585
There aren't many people made out of mold in the world. Ross isn't doing it again and there's no one else that would take the mantle. This is the only chance we have.

>>713839531
Now get an italian youtuber to talk about it.

>>713839674
Pretty sure both topics are always rolled into a single video.

>>713839382
With the drama happening, it honestly could reach him now.

>>713839674
My algo is full of shitting on thor as well, but they usually do that at the start before talking about the wider vidya industry.

>>713839656
stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev

feel genuinely bad for ross that chet falsizek, the writer of some of his favorite games thinks he's a craven villain

on the other hand it's clearly because chet has been losing his marbles

>>713813860
this is so kino lmao, how can a person like that exist

>>713816315
>but maybe i could send a superchat to Rubius (popular spain streamer) and ask him to spread the word
This is probably one of the best options. Does anyone know good non-English EU streamers who haven't done something on it yet?

>>713839905
>>713839614
That's not fair to the Germans.
But even then, if the bronze borders aren't white, then about those that haven't attained that?

>>713839780
you'd have an easier time convincing a romanian youtuber to make one

>>713839608
Nobody is spamming threads.

>>713813586 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ahH6HrtTc
techjesus made a video

>>713839962
Plenty of people like this exist.

>>713813586 (OP)
Okay fuck it I'll sign it. What's the link?

>>713837110
Atleast he isn't Daenerys or something

>>713840157
whitetroons and their evil egos need desperately to be humbled, can't wait for china to take over and put them in their places.

>>713840223
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>>713840223
>fat 'jak
This is not an American petition anon.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>>713840223
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/

>>713840365
>>713840370
>>713840374
ALL me btw

>>713840349
Don't get excited chang. Narcissists exist everywhere.

>>713840365
>>713840370
>>713840374
lol JK I'm American

>>713840025
Sorry.

>I didn't delete the vod of me talking shit about you it was actually youtube and twitch deleting it at the same time
Uh-oh spaghettios

>>713836341
>Planetside 2

The /int/-tier faux edgy "racism" on here is genuinely fucking embarrassing to the point it makes my fucking skin crawl. It's always the same insincere cliches. At least when someone says "dude I hate Ns deyre rapist monkeys" that is a genuine statement from the heart. The "creative" reddit /int/ faggot insults are just so unbelievably contrived and lame.

>>713840512
I still can't believe he made that claim that they auto delete long VoDs.
Like nigga, I can find 24 hour livestream vods right now.

>>713840341
TSMT, even though he's lilely to rebel in seethe to become a total normie football player jock in spite of his nerd parents even if he was a geek, being a geeky guy with a geeky name worst case scenario there are still geeky guys he can habg around with

A girl being named after nerdshit when all femoids are twofaced sociopath hypernormies who backstab and want to look cool? Yeah it's Joever for her, she's screwed...

>>713813586 (OP)
How many eu countries actually speak english?

>>713840645
Zero now that the UK left.

>>713840594
>make good and honestly reasonable post
>attach frog image so no one takes it seriously
sasuga

Spain should bully Portugal.

>>713840512
God I hope Ross see's this, since he tried so hard to gaslight him into thinking they were auto-deleted
It really is like being in an abusive relationship, he just lies as easily as he talks

>>713840512
>hate speech
"retard"
>death threats
"kys"
>doxxing
"Jason"

WOW

>>713840645
Officially or effectively?

>>713840645
ireland
but like 70% of the population of all germanic countries (under 50) speaks english too

>>713840835
>doxxing
Probably Maldavius Figtree more than Jason.

>>713840223
Just google "stop killing games.com"

>>713840954
So he admits it?

>>713840645
English is so easy even americans can speak it (barely). Most everyone under 40 can speak it to some degree.

>if you make a live service video game with gorillions of servers and teams getting paid to develop it for years, you should also prepare to release an offline version with rudimentary bots (that are already in the fucking game most of the time) when you take it offline because it didn't make enough shekels this quarter
OH MY TALMUD! THIS WILL BANKRUPT THE WHOLE INDUSTRY!

>>713840924
No, they only speak Celtic stupid Amerimutt, this thread should only allow EUbros to comment.

>>713813586 (OP)
>>713828072
>>713829354
How many bets that if SKG passes he'll use it as an opportunity for a "I was just pretending to be retarded, I was allied with the cause all along!" ruse?

>>713841073
Not like he can hide it anyway since people already dug it up and he's had a giant spotlight on him for the last months.

>>713841159
They could just offer tools allowing people to set their own private servers up.

>>713813586 (OP)
>look at what the sloptubers are saying about SKG to see if its being represented correctly
>xQc is chewing on his fucking foot
>understands Ross's position
I dont understand how some people arent getting this

>>713841159
there are games like star citizen where they're relying on so much extra bullshit that they probably couldn't "just make a version that can be run by the community" that easily.

IMO the law should be that you need to release enough to allow players to ATTEMPT to run the game on their own at the minimum, even if it's fucky or broken at first and some holes have to be patched on the community end.

When the community has to reverse engineer fucking basic private server capability in a 6v6 shooter because you haven't even given them that much, that's the point that makes me go "fuck you, you could easily be doing this."

>>713841250
His audience would eat him alive then. There is only so much bullshit one can tolerate.

>>713841346
>Maldavius has a lower understanding than fucking xQc
Grim.

>>713840443
>t.

>>713841408
I don't think he's that braindead, he's probably just a shill.

>>713841250
Doubt because that would force him to internalize that he was actually wrong in the first place. And people wouldn't buy it, though he is so far up his own ass, he'd probably believe he could convince other people that it was actually some 9000 iq 5d chess move.

>>713841408
>his audience would eat him alive
fans of narcissists genuinely don't care when they do anything wrong, if they were looking for moral consistency and clarity they wouldn't be fans of narcissists.

>>713841346
>xQc is chewing on his fucking foot

>>713841408
theres evidence of the cunt buying subs he doesn't care he'll just try to game the system

A part of me thinks that he poisoned his own mind and thinking beforehand and when he didn't get the validation that his assumption was correct, he chimped out.
I still can't believe he got so butthurt over the "politicians like easy wins" comment.

>>713841408
>Maldavius has a lower understanding than fucking xQc
Nah, he understands it plenty
He's just a narcisstic cunt that can't back down and admit mistakes

>>713841346
>xQc is chewing on his fucking foot
>a guy chewing on his foot understand the issue better then the main opposition of this movement
the state of humanity, man.

It's not even a big ask. The reason it's not getting six gorillion signatures is because it's such a niche autistic request.
>I don't like a goyslop multiplayer video game become complete unavailable, please release a barebones offline version so I can say I played it
There is no reason this should require fucking legislation. There is no reason for companies to not just do it.

>>713841676
Try harder, Maldavius.

>>713841559
The craziest part about it for me is that if he was less of a cunt about it, I'm sure he could make reasonable arguments from the developer side of things. That's fair and would actually need to be something that would need to be discussed. But instead he throws a shitfit and says it is all wrong while he himself gets basic information wrong about how networking works.

>>713841729
I'm Tyrone, wyboi

>>713841346
More like xChewc

>>713841760
>I'm sure he could make reasonable arguments from the developer side of things
Only if the guys paying him to shill against Ross gave him some talking points, which they didn't.

>>713820827
kek

>>713841346
Is xQc diagnosed with autism?
Actual serious question. I thought he was fucking retarded before but like "oh he's fucking retarded" NOT LITERALLY RETARDED.

>>713841676
>There is no reason for companies to not just do it.
Yet they are not doing it. So now we have this initiative. If companies weren't so shitty this initiative would not exist.

A full year later and there still isn't one good argument for why you can't just not buy always online games that you know will eventually shut down

Who knew not pressing a hotkey to use a mana gem would lead to this?

>>713841346
>I dont understand how some people arent getting this
>>xQc is chewing on his fucking foot
Answering your own question.

>>713841991
Because giving games a killswitch is pure profit, and there is no reason any given developer wouldn't eventually make all of their games have it. If it becomes industry standard, it's shit.

>>713841991
Because idiots keep buying them. It's the same argument for lootboxes, all it takes is a handful of whales and then they become ubiquitous within every modern game, even games otherwise I would have interest in.

>>713841991
Fallacy.

>>713841991
W hope this shit flops so I get to see it's shills cry, cope and mope and watch based THOR celebrate from the rooftops

>>713841991
This is not about me, i shop exclusively from GOG, this is about stupid little timmy, this is about stupid little timmy's stupid grandma. Only positive that i might get from this is more games beng DRM free and coming to GOG.

>>713841969
There is a reason which is intellectual property jewery. Same reason mods and fan films get cease & desists. There is no actual reason for it, it obviously doesn't hurt profits. But they (((have to))) be protective of their IP. That's why they don't want to release their games into the wild, ever, even if the alternative is annihilation.

>>713841473
>fans of narcissists
Still the weirdest concept.

>>713841315
I hate games dying as much as the next guy but forcing people to give up their property, especially if it's property that could compromise other games they may use said tools with, is dangerous territory.

>>713841676
It's because they pussed out on the real issues

>>713842039
sub xQc IQ retards want their games to die?
poor little fellas

Guys, pirate software is a triple agent. hes deceiving his corporate overlords by being as big a retard as possible for drama coverage.He has recorded a video before octupling down to prove his intent. Hes outplaying everyone. here.

>>713841760
Probably because the initiative wasn't written as some extreme manifesto filled with out-of-touch requests, instead the whole thing is sensible and kind of mild. And since it's hard to argue against basic consumer rights without coming out as a tool, making a mountain out of a molehill was his best way to torpedo it.
Or he's just a high-functioning lolcow who finally exploded.

>>713842148
They actively seek annihilation so they can sell you new game version slop that is the same thing but with a different number on the back.

>>713816521

It wouldn’t be a retroactive initiative, something that Ross has already covered.

We had over 20years of videogames you still have in your home and pop in and play. NES, SNES, PS1 etc.
Now when corpos try to fuck with this agreement theres ubinoids defending that they should get away with the literal theft.

>>713842148
It still shits me off that people talk about "muh free markets" and "no government intervention" but IP law is government monopoly granting parties exclusive rights to an idea. Would the free market argument not instead be that ideas can be innovated upon and it is up to the consumer on who makes the best product out of an idea?

>>713842104
>Because idiots keep buying them
Thing is no one is buying them. It takes a very exceptional game to break the stigma of drm and for most games worth playing it ends up getting cracked and then removed anyway.

>>713842272
This is true in theory but obviously there's not going to be a Darkspore reboot anytime soon.

>>713842154
They don't have to sell in the EU if they don't like it.

>>713842209
The saddest part is that there are retarded niggers out there that believe this unironically.

>>713842148
It's not your code.
It's not your software.
It literally does not belong to you.
You have ZERO rights to this. At ALL.
If they want to throw it all in a shredder and then burn it till nothing but ashes are left that's entirely in their right.
They.
Owe.
You.
NOTHING.

You thieving little faggot. Retard, get it through fucking skull.
IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU.

>>713841676
>There is no reason for companies to not just do it.
Exactly. Yet they dont. Hence why the law needs to get involved.

>>713842475
Shalom, rabbi

>>713842483
If we're going to start enslaving people like this then maybe we should start with people like you first. These coal mines aren't going to excavate themselves. An somebody has to keep the lights on. Might as well send in parasites like you first.

I have no idea what this retardation is all about but if this Thor guy has this many people critically asspained he must be mega based.

the reasonable counter-arguments are:
>"this could discourage and restrain people from making games that rely on third party services, mostly large-scale multiplayer games and cloud bullshit"
and
>"the government could royally fuck up legislating this and make it way more aggressive and clumsy than it needs to be"
i think both points have been offered by pirate and chet faliszek but they're surrounded by such inane drivel that I don't think most people have received them

I think it's possible to pass SKG without either of them being a big problem, though. You need a lawyer who REALLY loves videogames in the room for the latter and in the former you just need exceptions or looser requirements that are still strict enough to ensure that the community will be able to pick up the slack

Jeets? Rope
Kikes? Rope
Jannies? Take a guess

>>713842579
Moshe, you're not even trying

>>713842401
Try telling your shareholders that:
>so, we won't be selling our new game in europe
>why not?
>because we don't like some new law they made
>won't we lose sales then?
>yeah, bu-
>*gets fired immediately*

>>713842352
>but IP law is government
Not really, it's more a registry of ownership. The government doesn't have control over what's registered under whatever IP law, that's all on the owner much like how you control how your pc is used but it was designed around laws regarding consumer electronics.
>Would the free market argument not instead be that ideas can be innovated upon and it is up to the consumer on who makes the best product out of an idea?
Yeah and that's how it works.
Nintendo has Mario
Sega has Sonic
Sony has Astro
MS now has Crash
They're all different takes on the idea of "platformer".

>>713842389
Yeah but you're still going to have to buy a new game once they've killed your older game.

>>713841991
Don't worry about what I spend my money on, they're the one selling the game so it better fucking work.

>>713842604
I think that's why Ross has contacted lawyers about this to talk it through on the premise it does pass.
Could also get the developers that support it (RWS, Tiny Build, indie developers etc.) to be part of the discussion process.

>>713842630
You wouldn't know the first thing about trying shit. You're a fucking 30+ year old loser who watches cartoons and is on 4chan begging Ubisoft for eternally free shit like a complete idiot.

Do not @ me again you butthurt double nigger retard. You have wasted our time. Do not do it again. (just kidding, you will. Your fragile ego won't let you walk away) lmao

>>713842475

Please kill yourself.

>>713842641
shareholders have way too much power

plus didn't every company pull out of russia? europe should be as easy.

>>713842579
>enslaving
lol wut

None of you have worked in gamedev.
I’m going to side with the actual professional on this one as it relates to how this would and wouldn’t impact the industry negatively.

>>713842754
>begging Ubisoft for eternally free shit like a complete idiot.
Shalom

>>713813586 (OP)
If this shit fails to pass I genuinely hope PS gets bullied off the internet.

>>713842401
Anon, you are aware that it wouldn't just apply to video games, right? It would apply to all software. That's what video games fall under.
And again, you're still talking about someone's property being wrested from them by the government for an arbitrary reason.

>>713842154
What do you think happens to money or land after the owner dies and has no next of kin, retard?

>>713842154
How is allowing customers to play the games they bought forcing people (I assume you mean devs and publishers) to give up their property? They aren't giving up shit, they're just not stopping their customers from accessing the games they sold them. What would be the problem with that?

If anything it's the opposite of what you fear, customers can't have their property (game) taken from them anymore.

>/v/ on a good day: Fuck the industry, fuck developers, lmao they get fired
>/v/ on SKG: B... but what about muh developers
lol
lmao.

>>713842790
Do it nigger, pull out of Europe. Let European videogame publishers/developers like Larian, CDPR etc. take complete control of the EU market KEK!

>I paid for it so that means its MINE!!! ITS MINE FOREVER FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!!
we are reaching quantum levels of entitlement

>>713842604
>but they're surrounded by such inane drivel that I don't think most people have received them
Well, no. It's that no one actually addresses them.
The tactic for skg supporters right now is to just ignore valid points and the falseflag as someone who believes it's unreasonable to keep games online permanently then they target that argument and bury the other

>>713842790
>didn't every company pull out of the country that is well know for piracy and wouldn't buy their shit anyway?
I'm fine with shareholders if they put pressure on companies to conform to the new law, if it passes.
Those same companies chose to be publicly traded so now they get to enjoy their shareholder overlords.

>>713842841
My property is being wrested from me by the dev for an arbitrary reason.

>>713842849
Yes anon, because a company and all of its workers and families will be eradicated after the death of a single game.

>>713843043
Its not your property

>>713842960
it's a whitetard thing, the browning of America introduced a little humility but eurotroons are still completely rabid.

>>713843071
Yes.

>>713842934
someones gonna reply with "all those games are shit"

Good ideas and good products do not require a sales pitch, or elaborate marketing. SKS being "utterly destroyed" by a single persons opinion says everything I need to know about this tripe. It's trash. GG, no goals 4 u.

>>713842960
>Read my copy of War of the Worlds that I take care of
>No one cares
>Watch my copy of Rashomon that I take care of
>No one cares
>Listen to my copy of Black Sabbath's albums that I take care of
>No one cares
>Play my copy of Super Mario Bros that I've taken care of
>ENTITLED
Suck a shotgun.

>>713842604
>"the government could royally fuck up legislating this and make it way more aggressive and clumsy than it needs to be"
They could also fuck up without the initiative.

>>713817286
If this was America we'd be in a golem country where some Jew in Israel says No and that's that

>>713842960
Jew

>>713842960
I have my copy of mgs2 forever :)

>>713842827
You are working too hard for those 12 monthly dollars Rajeesh, take a breather

>>713843043
It's not.
For starters, it's their game by law. Not EULA but the actual law in every region they sell the game.
Second, if no one is playing to warrant keeping it online then the onus is on them to keep it on or not.
Third, you would still have a functioning game. It's not exactly damaged but requiring a connection to a server it's something it always did

>>713843202
0 EUcel shitholes are boycotting Israel in any way shape or form and are using their taxpayers funds to fund Israel just as much as America, cope Eurotroon.

>>713842960
>I paid for it so that means its MINE!!! ITS MINE FOREVER FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!!
>[text i didn't read]
Agreed!

>>713843305
>you would still have a functioning game
>except it doesn't function as a game

I guess you could say this is... GAME OVER.

haha

>>713842960
>>713842986
Fucking brilliant

>>713842934
all those games are kino

>>713842841
I think it should apply to all software too. Adobe is killing the industry as well.

>56%
amerimutts...

>>713813586 (OP)
>last week of stop killing games gains the real momentum
>ubisoft gets raped in court
>gamers win

based Ross
let's get it

>>713841346
>xQc is chewing on his fucking foot
classic freefag move

>>713843373
The disc/file isn't damaged in any way nor have they revoked your access to it and removed it from your library or demanded a recall on discs.

>>713843448
The fact you can't see this is happening, because your own position is weak and powerless - is absolutely amazing.

You're right. It must be the schizos, the jews and the indians the CIA and piratesoftware. They are all working hand in hand. GREATSCOT, You've cracked the case.

MODS?? Give this man a badge. He has a story to tell! lmao

>>713843537
What's up with ubishart?

>>713843573
Calm down there Mohammed.

>>713843582
>ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!1111
Your meds. Now, son.

>>713843567
>we didn't break your car, we simply made it so it won't start anymore and it's illegal to fix it

>>713843582
The Crew something something

>>713843679
>food analogy

>>713843657
At least quote the right post or something, retard.

>>713843679
NTA but it's more
>we didn't break your car, the fuel for it isn't getting made anymore, there's nothing wrong with it.

It just keeps getting worse for the furfag.

>>713843697
Oh yeah, forgot that this was still going on. Is there any interesting update on that or just slowly crawling through the justice system?

>>713843719
You're saying that like SGK supporters can read.

>>713843309
that one must have really hit the nail on its head if it got you this mad
cope and seethe shabbos goy

>>713841250
>I was just pretending to be retarded
The fact that the probabilities are non-zero is already concerning, imho.

>>713843839
*Thor supporters
I think you might've misread that post. It's okay.

>>713843839
O' the ironing

>>713843679
>>713843774
Both of these are wrong, its more like
>You drove the car you paid full price for for two years and now we are taking it back, you cant drive it or own it anymore.

>>713816229
Ignore these cynical Russian actors who criticize any democratic initiatives. They'd rather that more games die than be proven wrong about their nihilistic world view.

>>713843901
>>713843886
Case in point.

>>713830074
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/datahistory
that's the best available right now

>Vidya gaymers only respond to stuff if there is drama
If it works it works, doesn't mean I'm happy about that aspect of it.

>>713843853
Its not just about him pushing his chair forward. its the standing behind him afterwards like an obsequious serf awaiting orders.

>>713843921
>and now we are taking it back,
So you're saying that ubisoft personally came into your home, kicked you out of the way and stole your copy of the crew?

You don't really understand the point of analogies, do you.

>>713843817
>Defendant Ubisoft, Inc. is filing a motion to dismiss the complaint brought by plaintiffs Matthew Cassell and Alan Liu, arguing that all claims are time-barred and lack standing. The hearing for this motion is scheduled for June 17, 2025, in the Eastern District of California. The document includes legal arguments regarding the timeliness of claims and the adequacy of the plaintiffs' allegations.

Ubisoft trying to dismiss the case. Next hearing June 17th. Their counter arguments are weak though.

https://scribd.com/document/848030901/The-Crew-lawsuit-Ubisoft-response-via-Polygon

>>713844049
It had decent support at the start of it and the drama hadn't started yet.

make a new thread

>>713843921
It not working but still taking up space in your driveway sounds more like the reality though. You can have the game installed, you can have the disc on the shelf, but you can't play it.

>>713843921
Except the car was always a rental.
And it being a rental was explicitly stated in the Terms of Service when you paid for it.

>>713844123
>motion to dismiss
Of course they would.

Target German and Polish creators. They have the largest reach. Italian and Spanish as well.

>>713844225
>Except the car was always a rental.
But at the dealer, they always told you that you were buying a car and there's no end date listed, just a vague mention in the fine print that they could come take it whenever they want.

>>713844225
It's not a rental if you have to pay the full price of the car upfront.

>>713844123
Jesus fucking christ if this actually goes to court Ubisoft are going to kill them.

>>713839780
Sabaku talked about it VERY BRIEFLY when it started last year during a stream. That's it. That's all the coverage it had here.

>>713844402
>they unironically thought that they bought the IP
Are they retarded?

>Normal folks: Oh, that game I used to play got shut down? I will always cherish the memories that were made back then but fortunately I have long since moved on with my life, got a career, and started a family. Good on the devs for moving onto greener pastures!

>/v/ folks: WHAT THE FUCK?!? What do you mean they shut down that game I played years ago??!! Yeah I don’t even have it installed anymore but I was maybe gonna replay it again (never would)! How will future generations get to experience it (will never reproduce)??! VIDEO GAMES ARE MY LIFE!!! THIS IS EXTORTION!! THIS IS THEFT!!!
This is the equivalent of a grown man being outraged about his childhood playground being bulldozed.
Grow. The. Fuck. Up.

>>713844225
If it is a rental then it is required by law to say how long the rental lasts.

new thread >>713844634

>>713844601
you are under the age of twenty

>>713844601
Don't confuse pajeet shills for /v/. None of us bought the crew.

>>713844601
>Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
This feels about as corporate as possible... Do they give you exact scripts or an outline on anti shitposting?

>>713844670
stop doing that

>>713844402
No they won't. New California bill says you can't sell a digital license with a buy button, it would indicate you purchased it and you own it, instead it's required now to display that you rent the game. Taking the game away or shutting it down is a no-no.

>>713844763
why?

>>713844670
Don't ever do that, ever again.