Cmon EU /v/aggots. Do something useful once in your life.
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

not my problem
I never played a single live service game

bot shill thread

>>713993654
>t. ferret fucker

STOP
SPAMMING
THIS SHIT
FUCKING COMMIES

>>713993654
If the anti-shills are right, this'll make it FINANCIALLY IMPOSSIBLE to develop multiplayer and live service games. Meaning more single-player games, as publishers will pivot to that.

I would sign it but I wouldnever give my ID to shit like this

>>713993874
do go end your life

>>713994092
It's an EU thing, they already have all of your information

>>713994092
telling your address and other info to your own government?
if you are eligible to sign it then they already have that info since the signatures are verified by the country they originate from

>>713994190
>>713994570
Yeah, but I dont know if that puts me in any list where third party organisms can check that I signed this shit and wether it can have any negative return in the future, I want my footprint to be as small as possible

>>713994719
bro nobody cares that you signed a video game petition.

>>713994092
They gave you those.

>>713993620 (OP)
>destroying
lol what happened to killing?

>>713994719
It puts you on Bethesda assassination list xD

>>713995269
killing is a no no word on tiktok

>>713994719
You will instantly get detained by ICE if you ever want to travel to the US because of your unamerican world view.

>>713993620 (OP)
There's no fucking way the EU lives in their own fantasy bubble.

>>713993874
sorry, i will stop
on july 32

>>713993620 (OP)
>imagine being an Italian and having to go to the store to buy your pasta
Does this sound terrible to you? Then go sign the initiative!

>>713995147
Euro bros have more rights than cucked Americans or Russians and signing this actually is a path to legal ramifications.

>>713993620 (OP)
who's gonna pay for the permanently-online servers of dead games?
wtf

I don't care

>>713997083
not my problem

>>713997084
bump

>>713997076
>muh rights
Christ.

>>713996869
are you mad that we have a functioning system that tries to solve real problems instead of pretending they dont exist?

EEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK YOU THOR

>>713997015
try it bitch

>>713994092
Anon... once you get your ID issued by your local government you are already in the system.
>>713997083
Whomever wants to play those games. This is the idea. You give people the ability to keep the games they paid for for as long as they like.

>>713997083
uhmmmmmmmm

>>713997083
It's called dedicated servers and they have existed long before your parents fucked.

>>713993983
>If the anti-shills are right
They aren't so it wouldn't go down like that

you know you fucked up bad when not even assmongoloid can defend you

>>713997169
Oh please burgers are all about muh rights, you should be ecstatic.

>>713994570
>your own government?
My country isnt the EU, NAFOtroon

inshallah brothers

I hate commies
I hate government over reach

That's why I'm voting for this initiative. I can finally get back the companies who rape the rest of us with IP law and I can make a tidy profit from making P2W servers on abandoned dead games. Hope my fellow Libertarians are joining us on this endeavor.

>>713997265
>Whomever wants to play those games. This is the idea. You give people the ability to keep the games they paid for for as long as they like.
You're gonna pay extra money just to keep the game's server running? Along with maintenance, repairs, service, and so on?
You guys complain about 70 USD games but then you're willing to do this? lol

>>713997083
>it would take a billion years and a billion dollars to code in an offline mode and dedicated servers

Stop licking lead paint and poisoning your brain with Tiktok. Explaining how easy things were is getting old.

>>713997263
Better stash your pasta inside a vault tonight, Giuseppe.

>>713997083
How are you fuckers able to breathe being this retarded

>>713997083
i don't give a fuck, fuck companies lmao

>>713997083
running a server instance costs like what, 5€ per month?

>>713993620 (OP)
I don't know man, it feels like bullying smaller devs. Big studios can easily spend money implementing this but I don't play those games anyway

>>713997589
Please understand, the billion dollar corporation CANNOT afford this!

>>713993620 (OP)
>please make making multiplayer games even less enjoyable
yeah go for it EU

>>713993874
>being against actually getting something, for good, in exchange for your hard-earned money is gommunismus
Your corp is paying you too much, saar.

>>713993983
Multiplayer games can still work if they have a singleplayer portion. Anything "as service" is AIDS.

>>713997241
Its unbelievably joever for eurabians

>>713993654
If you avoided a game because it was live service, then obviously it has affected you

>>713997701
Based! Fuck MP.
SP forever.

>>713997649
Small studios don't make live service games and this costs literally nothing but pride. They already have the means to run their own games locally, they just need to release them.

>>713997649
>it feels like bullying smaller devs
Small devs don't make GaaS anon. Small devs make games like Noita(DRM free on GOG), games like DeadCells(DRM free on GOG), games like Blasphemous 1&2(DRM free on GOG), games like Factorio(DRM free on GOG), games like RimWorld(DRM free on GOG), games like Absolver(DRM free on GOG), games like ECHO(DRM free on GOG) etc.

>>713997589
Per year, it's around 100-170 thousand USD if there's like 7k people playing.
The issue is, where are you gonna put the servers? Since the state intervenes, I'd guess the state will have to own these.

>>713998019
this. big publishers are seeding because their scummy planned obsolescence scams are going to be made illegal
should have thought twice before ripping off your customers

>>713997015
I have an italian passport and I just signed it yesterday. My pasta is safe...

>>713998063
Thats to run a server farm in a corporate basement
Don't be one of these people who's been gaslit to think thats the only way for multiplayer games to work

>>713997701
no need to thank us :)

>>713997649
I played games made by one programmer 20 years ago when he was a full time student in college that you can still play today through the magic of IP addresses and LAN. Pic related. Modern devs act like they can't do anything that costs tem a dollar.

They didn't have to be retards, and most old online games were still playable before enshitification occurred. Try playing something old for once?

>>713998063
>Since the state intervenes, I'd guess the state will have to own these.
what? the state just would give a ruleset that developers and publisher would have to follow so consumers could run their own shit

>>713993620 (OP)
I was gonna sign this but then I saw Pirate's video and now I dunno what to think

why does /v/ hate "Pirate Software" this much

>>713998286
send nudes to the girl you have a crush on, then sign the EU petition. BAKA

>>713998063
Nigga how the fuck do you think minecraft servers work?

>>713998286
Pirate is a chronic liar and a dumb roach. Watch any response video to it. You can start with GamerNexus, Destiny or LegendaryDrops.

>>713993620 (OP)
Charles doesn't get enough credit for saving the movement and dunking on pirate at the same time

>>713993620 (OP)
No, sorry, I'm a braindead wigger who needs battlepasses

>>713998063
we can host our own servers dumb dumb

>WAAAAHH STOP KILLING GAMES STOP STOP STOP STOP KILLING THEM!!!
Go back

>>713997701
And uhhh how would this impact literally any multiplayer game that isn't dead? They won't become any shittier from this.

>>713998592
Chadditors won.

>>713997015
They're clearly low IQ and can't into English so the message won't reach them unless it's in pastaspeak.

>>713993874
self-immolate immediately you fucking faggot.

>>713997819
How would it affect him if he avoided it?

>>713997083
retard or disengenuous faggot, which is it?

>>713998829
Worse, blatant falseflag

>>713997015
>stealing pasta
that's dumb. just add water to it. it will ruin it and then they'll riot
>>713997424
this kills the anti-SKG corpo pajeet

>>713993983
>anti-shills
You mean the shills.

>>713994092
Anon it's an official EU government website. They already have all of your personal data if you're an EU citizen. They just confirm who you are, and at worst also maybe note down that you like video games or something.

>>713998745
learn to read you retarded bogan, if you avoid a game simply and only because it's a live service game than you have been affected by it

>>713997083
dumb zoomer retard, also: not my problem

>>713998019
It might be anecdotal, but I don't pirate DRM-free games with still alive developers on principle. Even if it lacks a demo asking about it and watching a few videos is usually enough. I don't pirate AIDS-ridden ones either because I'm not interested in them.

>>713993620 (OP)
People would buy EU version of the game. Rent EU server and play to the heart's content.
It's a win for EU and players. Hope Brussels dummies can see that.

You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.
This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.
If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Just even look at something like >>713994092 , do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over?

>>713998063
>Per year, it's around 100-170 thousand USD if there's like 7k people playing.
Don't you mean $1000 to $1700? At 100k you'd already have $14 of the purchase price spend on server costs, which seems like a fucking massive cost per user. Kinda contradicts the prevalence of f2p games that would need massive amounts of startup capital to stay alive until the whales are captured.

>>713997241
Almost 20k signatures until now and we roughly get 1k per h. It's also only 19:41 CEST so there's still a few more hours of activity.

>>713994719
Negative consequences like what? What would they do with the fact that you seem at least somewhat concerned with video game regulations?

>>713997701
have you tried crying about it

>>713997649
If you are a small studio making aaS shit you deserve the worst anyway.

>>713997284
kek

>>713993620 (OP)
>>>/b/
Not videogames, FUCK OFF.

>>713999082
it's not a petition, it's an initiative

>>713999082
Total video game death.
Stop with your fake concern signaling.

>>713999082
credit card and banking kikes are currently working double time to outlaw loli, hypnosis, dubcon, rape, violence and gore, etc.
these same corpos are the ones that lobby the government. the distinction is lost
all I want right now is for corpos to stop ripping me off with planned obsolescence

>>713999082

>>713999082
>do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over
but the government already had all my personal information before I signed?

>>713994719
The data is completely private. It would be a huge scandal if it weren't.

>>713999082

>these are the europoors moralizing you

>>713999185
How about you go FUCK OFF and make 8th Wow thread

>>713999082
I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>713999061
I always try and by the DRM free games i like.

>>713999586
It really makes you think, huh?

Maldavius here

Anyone else really wanna go stick a poop gnome up his bum? My dad is working at Blizzard and could take two poop gnomes at the same time.

>>713997083
me

>>713997649
Ah yes, all the zero small devs who are making their games completely inoperable after they shut down.

I'm not signing random shit lol

>>713995269
>>713996725
There's a different reason. Stop Killing Games sounds like it could mean to stop games involving killing (i.e. an anti-violent video game initiative). Stop destroying games is less confusing.

>>713999786
Sorry, whites only

>>713993620 (OP)
buy an ad
also fuck off with your commie petition

>>713999567
Excuse me, that individual is a russian mutt of kazak or maybe even finnish descent.

>>713999812
bro i love games where you destroy things

There's not a single game I care about that has become unplayable but I love it when jews kvetch so I support this

>>713999082
Learn to use paragraphs retard
Didn't read your drivel

>>713999786
>Tranime picture in post
>Worst slop in the universe
Every. Single. Time.

>>713999874
Those are demolition games.

How can someone be so mindbroken to actively shill against something that will result in you having better private property rights, HOW?

>>713999489
>totally private
>saved on some EU commie server
choose one

>>713997241

>>713999848
you told me to post my hand the last time and I did
>>713999894
uhhhh just not gonna sign shit lol

>>713999082
Holy retard.
>types all that shit
>literally can't read and has no idea what hes talking about
>the guvment has your info if you sign! Nevermind the fact you have to have an id to do that anyways and in some places an EID
>It's a petition
You're the one without a brain retard, everything is already being censored & this has nothing to do with how games are made outside of preservation plans but nice try ubisoft employee

Will this initiative bring back Super Mario Bros. 35? I've never played it and they took it down before I could try.

>>713999931
nah demolition is a subset of destruction

>>713999786
I'm following this only because I want to be around when it fails to I can watch these faggot fucking threads go away forever so they can instantly be replaced by the same niggers in this thread who will immediately switch sides and pretend they were never for this stupid bullshit to begin with.

>>713999864
He is de los ogre las esto evropea

>>713999938
There are a lot of ancaps on here who grind their teeth at the thought of any kind of government regulation
They think a company should be allowed to do literally anything so long as they write down first that they're allowed to do it

>>713999984
Good thing that according to GDPR if they preserve your data or leak it you can sue them for a ton of money.

>>713999894
I SIGNED THE INITIATIVE

>>713995269
Kek this.

YOU WONT BELIEVE WHATS BUTALLY KILLING THIS CHILDS VIDEOGAME

>>713993874
i will spam it

>>713999645
Same. I know that the overwhelming majority of pirated copies would have never been bought anyway (those users either never have intent to buy or can't afford it), but I don't want to even contribute to the misused statistic.

>>713998396
He's a big tech channel that spread misinfo on the topic and won't admit he's wrong. He's allegedly also a furfag.

is this software like impossible to pirate?

>>713999938
Just the standard american zombies. That's what they're like.

>>713999938
They're paid.

>>714000060
I don't really follow it either, but I do think that it's funny that people think they can get europeans to get together and do anything

>>714000006
Sorry, non-homosexual whites only

>>714000087
BASED trannime pedo

>>714000152
I wouldn't know. I don't want to waste any bandwidth or storage on absolute garbage.

>>714000030
Well, so is killing.

>>714000157
Anon, he's probably squeezing the life out of his "rescue" ferrets as we speak.

>>713999938
it's called being American

>>713999938
Look up saars boasting they got paid to shit up the Internet from the comfort of their homes (in countries that graciously but mistakenly let them in).

>>713993620 (OP)
normal people don't play games from 10 years ago, that's what remakes are for.
you're asking a trillion dollar industry to change its entire course to accommodate a tiny minority of nerds in a part of the world that's continually declining in importance.
considering it's not linked to health or the environment, I fail to see how eurocrats would even give a rat's ass about this initiative even if it got the votes it needed somehow.

>>714000350
meant for >>714000150

>>713993620 (OP)
I already signed this...
possibly twice because i dont remember if i signed it back when it first came around

>>713999938
What private rights? In what part of that shitty inititative does it explicitly say private rights? All I see is some faggot kicking and screaming about his shitty ubislop game being dead and for big mommy government to fix it.

>>713999938
A video game license is a possession, not property. Better private property rights is the right of the IP owner to revoke your license at any time for any (or no) reason. The pro private property rights position is pro killing games. SKG undermines private property rights and is therefore communist.

>>714000079
Government regulation is orthogonal to the capitalist-communist argument. Government regulation can be pro-capitalist/anti-communist by defending private property rights, or it can be anti-capitalist/pro-communist by undermining private property rights.

>>714000243
uhhh ur not white pedro

>>714000350
If he's smart he needs to be preparing his channel for a sudden surge of support and popularity when this fails.

The worst part of success is when you're not prepared for it to happen and the chance passes you by. He needs to get his cards in order so he's ready for when the channel blows up even bigger and he becomes a legend for brutally chopping this garbage to pieces. He didn't even have to do anything either, but the SKG schizos are desperate to make this guy as famous as possible just before they go away forever lmao.

>>713999691
More like "You'll get fined if you don't leave a game in a potentially playable state. It could mean turning over technical manuals or making the game playable over lan and private servers.
This is just the right to repair debate all over again.

>>714000079
I love when ancaps say that if two men woke up on a desert island and the first man to wake up hid all the coconuts, then its ethical that the second man should be the cocksucking slave of the first man to get enough food to survive.

>>713993620 (OP)
Reminder to tell shills to go fuck themselves.

>>714000517
>getting to own the thing you bought is communist
is this satire

>>714000570
(You)

>>714000060
>who will immediately switch sides and pretend they were never for this stupid bullshit to begin with
lmao you are right as that always happens

Why are you faggots doing something? Can't you just put your head down and do nothing like everyone else?

>>714000660
He's claiming your digital loicense doesn't count. It does in the EU at least.

>>714000565
Shush, and show bussy

Why do you need a million sigs? Why not a hundred thousand? Not signing shit btw

>>714000570
Your seething fills me with joy, shilldisgrace.

>>714000457
I play old games on old hardware and Steamdeck. Remakes add bloat and look bad. You don't need to replace everything with a cheap upscaler or replace custom engines with unreal engine crap so all games play the same.

>>713993620 (OP)
I signed it a year ago

>>714000891
W skgcels SEETHEing

>>714000891
dems de rulz

>>713998224
>orange_juice
Based

>>714000660
Unfortunately, that is sometimes the case. There's a difference between property and possession. It is possible for your ownership of a possession to undermine someone else's ownership of a property. Undermining private ownership of property is communism.

>>713997334
Afaik Asmon and Thor are on a professional level related by working through the same talent agency governing their online appearances.
Wouldn't expect anything from Asmon wrt ass-blasting Thor.

>>714001005
Says who?

>>714001051
And we a trying to stop the commie corpos from doing exactly that

>>714001129
Yo mama

>>713997015
This anon >>713998714 is right. We could easily double our numbers if a youtuber made a video about it but they would have to explain everything in italian because most people can't actually understand what's written on the website.

>>714001129
Barron Trump

>>714000000
Let's see who got the get

>>714001232
Corporations are private entities, and their ownership of property is therefore private and capitalist, not communist.

When you buy a copy of a game, you are not buying property, you are buying a possession. The corporation that owns the IP (intellectual property) is the owner of a property. If your possession could last indefinitely, it would undermine the corporation's ownership of the property. Undermining private ownership of property is communist. SKG is a pro-communist movement.

>>714001313
It's them and the Greeks that really need non-English outreach.

>>714000891
So you don't spam them with lunatic retarded initiatives. Remember these can't be thrown out like petitions they actually block legislative procedure for a day.

>>714000901
I'm not mad, couldn't be further from the truth. I'm about have an entirely hollow and empty victory where I didn't have to do anything, for a cause I don't care about, but now would like to see fail because your spam inconvenienced me for half a second while I was scrolling past.

>>713999082
Game companies shouldn't have stolen my property. Now I had to involve the government. Too bad the corporations couldn't play fair and let me keep my property.

>>713999082
The petition doesnt turn over any information the EU doesnt already have on you. And if you had your way then there wouldn't be a fire department.

>>714001051
When you buy a book you have a copy of that book. You can legally do whatever you want with it except prints copies. You can even copy parts of that book in the name of educational value, art, satire or criticism. Video games shouldn't be different.

When you buy a game you should have a copy of it until your machine breaks and you forget to preserve it.

What if when you bought a book and a publisher could legally randomly come to your house and light in on fire? "Tough luck! Buy my revised edition! Or maybe I won't write another at all, oh well!"

That is the state of the game industry and it could be changed if Europeans signed the petition.

>>714001129
Oprah

>20k with 4 hours to go
We're not hitting 30k like yesterday...
Already slowing down...

>>713993620 (OP)
No goals, no resources, just virtue signaling. Fuck your shitty youtube channel faggot.

>>714000457
>normal people
A man doesn't concern himself with the opinions of normalfags.

>>713993620 (OP)
Once again we must fix the mistakes of our retarded cousins
How tiresome

>>714001051
In this context the license is property. They either need to explicitly state that your license expires on a whim of theirs or provide the means for your license to continue ensuring the right to use the thing. Instead they're using a loophole.

>>714001452
A copy of a video game is a possession, not property. Only the corporation that owns the IP is the one who owns any property in this relationship. SKG undermines property rights.

>>714000152
Its DRM is, by Jason's own admission in one of his videos iirc, bound to the Steamworks API for being able to unlock and relock an achievement. That's so infantily stupid of a protection scheme that any spoofed steamworks DLL that emulates those calls properly means it's 'cracked' already.

>>714001428
I'm a private entity and therefore capitalist. When I buy something, I'm buying property. The commie corpos that take away my property need to be stoped.

>>714001517
Yea, there's no way it passes imo. It was still a good try.

>>714001670
he really thought people were gonna pirate his shitty undertale ripoff, the ego on this man

>>714000350
Well, I guess you could call a Lemmiwinks scenario "squeezing the life out of" - if he clamps down hard enough. Right?

>>713997083
>>713999082
Fuck off retard, games used to be preservable by default before studios turned to shit

>>714001684
>It was still a good try.
In what way, shape or form? There was no roadmap, no github repo for resources like middleware replacement, no nothing. It's just a faggot jewtuber seeking attention instead of getting things done by collaborating with devs.

>>714001684
It's a Sunday afternoon in Europe. What we need are more big Youtubers to keep covering it and also ones with reach in languages other than Englush.

>>714001630
>your license expires on a whim of theirs
I completely disagree. They have to give a minimum guaranteed time.

>>714001834
Shut up, you're our little bitch. Learn to move on

>>714001630
>>714001681
The license your purchase is a possession. The IP is property.

It has admittedly become common in English to use possession and property interchangeably, but in the case of discussing "private property rights," the word "property" should be understood as a technical term that is more specific than "something that someone owns." Your copy of a game is not property, it is a possession. The game IP is the property.

Why are people calling hin Thor instead of Jason? Why indulge him?

>>714000457
>normal people play remake scams
i don't think so

>>714001517
Nigga, there's a month left still. What are you talking about?

>>714001505
>What if when you bought a book and a publisher could legally randomly come to your house and light in on fire? "Tough luck! Buy my revised edition! Or maybe I won't write another at all, oh well!"
The only reason that didn't happen in the past is because it's not practical to do so. Now that books are increasingly moving from physical to digital, that is starting to become the case. Ebook licenses are beginning to be revoked similar to video game licenses, increasing the integrity of the IP owner's control of their private property.

>>714002086
>What are you talking about?
That it's slowing down?

>>714002025
>Your copy of a game
Not talking about that. The license to use that copy without reproducing, reverse-engineering blah blah blah is a user's property. He bought the license.

>>714002261
And that license can be revoked at any time for any (or no) reason, because that is a right of the property owner.

>petition gets signed
>some old man sees this as a pointless temper tantrum over literal toys
Why waste your time on this

Remember guys, even if the petition fails, this explosion in popularity that SKG got is not happening in a vacum, publishers and devs will become VERY aware that gamers are starting to wake up to the fact that they're abusing us and using imoral practices and were willing to make something about it

>>713993620 (OP)
I made a new whiteness map. I used the "signature per capita" as value.

>multiplayer game doesnt have a million sales
>devs shut it down a month later
>too bad you paid 70 dollars for it suck it u p faggot
>legit people defending this shit
also
>say bad word or pick a bad name and your console is permanently bricked and all your games unplayable
twink link up in this bitch here to delete your 500 dollar console, faggots

>>714002025
The license only exists due to commie regulation (copyright). I won't accept commie corpos abusing commie copyright this way.

>>714002382
Good, I will use this to shame the slackers

>>714002379
The cattle will forget after they release the next big game.

>>714002197
That is just enshitification and corporations getting their way because they are the ones who can afford lawsuits. They know they won't be challenged.

But even when you buy an ebook the PDF is yours. There is sometimes DRM, but there usually isnt some shitty contract where your right to look at it expires and you can't look again after X days. Because you haven't subscribed, you bought a copy. You have a license to that work.

>>714002382
Woketroon per capita

>>714002382
Why do Finns love vidya so much?
Do people get trapped in their houses from the winter snow and all they can do is play games until it melts?

>>714002382
>spain whiter than italy
Who knew?

>>714002382
Italy is such a shithole

>>713997406
You are a disgrace.

>>714001859
Stfu, you don't eve know what this is about.

>>714002379
Of course the chances of getting games preserved will be lowered when your whine and virtue signal instead of coming up with solutions that might get devs on the board, like making it easier to replace licensed proprietary code. Thank Rosstein for being a faggot that wanted to grow his dead channel instead of getting things done.

>>714002549
They're white.

>>714002261
>>714002324
EULAs arent enforceable if they contradict EU law which runs supreme. Companies make you sign all kinds of contracts that they can't enforce when they are challenged.

>>713993620 (OP)
Not signing this, feel free to harass me.

>>714002636
What games aren't available to purchase or download as abandonware other than always online games dipshit?

>>714002565
Spix may be hispanic but shitalians started all latinx when you think about it

>>714002654
You can already license with fallback cases in mind. Setup terms in case of EOS. This doesn't require a law to fix we need a law to enforce devs to act this way tho.

>>714002379
Bullshit.
This is our last chance at having rights.

>>714002549
thats probably it, same with other scandis it just get so dark here its not fun being outside during the winter parts of the year and theres also a strong LAN culture

>>713993620 (OP)
My ID is in another room, sorry.

>>714002654
Why don't you start that movement instead of whining on 4chan like a cuck?

>>714002382
I thought irish speak england yet not even 1% of the signatures are from them? WTF?!

>>714002382
This is really a map of English fluency and penetration. Baltic countries are great at English and watch English Youtube so they sign the petition. Italians kind of suck at English.

>>714002747
>feel free to harass me.
Is that your fetish?

>>713993620 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/73l0tz.mp4

>>714001051
"Possession is nine-tenths of the law" after all.
However, in the EU specifically, the protection of the possessions of consumers is enshrined in the EU Charter as Article 17, which reads:
> Article 17 - Right to property
> 1. Everyone has the right to own, use, dispose of and bequeath his or her lawfully acquired possessions. No one may be deprived of his or her possessions, except in the public interest and in the cases and under the conditions provided for by law, subject to fair compensation being paid in good time for their loss. The use of property may be regulated by law in so far as is necessary for the general interest.
> 2. Intellectual property shall be protected.
>
> -- https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:12012P/TXT

The first limits the reach of the second. Not the other way around. The second can only have an effect to impede the first, in sofar as there are "conditions provided for by law" - and even then only in exchange for fair compensation.

It is actually Article 17 on the charter on which the ECI is built. That's its primary motivator supplied to the EU Commission, for why the Initiative would fall under the governance of the EU rather than that of individual member states or even simple civil suits in court. And it is the EU Commission which AGREED ON that motivation, which is a necessary step to even have a Citizens Initiative be able to be registered and be opened for signing to the public.

Everything I don't like is communist.

>>714002856
Ross whined like a faggot instead making an actual movement with all his connections, like the faggot ecelebrities with direct access to devs. It's not my fault you fell for it.

Asmongold Moist Critikal Reddit Kiwibros....we won't make it today.....the movement is slowing down....

>>713993874
>owning property you paid for is communism

>>714002978
Zzzzzzzzzzzz

>>713997649
>it feels like bullying smaller devs
What smaller devs are making games dependent on large centralized servers to function? I've never seen a small or indie dev release a multiplayer game which didn't peer2peer or rely on player run dedicated servers. Do people saying "this will hurt indies" even know what this is about?

>>714002967
kek

>>714002324
You're still deflecting. The game itself is their property. The license to use its copy is the customers.
Property can be alienated from a citizen in various cases, doesn't mean it isn't his property until a court decides otherwise.

>>714003034
Yeah cry and vote harder. Faggot.

Ok, let me start by building tanks on Poland's western border, then I think we should conquer Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. Czechia and Slovakia can be annexed. Air raids on Belgium 24/7.

>>714002751
What are you even on about. This is precisely for those always online games, so that companies are either forced to give you ways to use the product you bought after they stopped supporting it or to define the license in a way that is not simply "we will revoke your license when we fill like it without any warning".

>>714002978
Whining and putting lying PirateSoftware in his place got him about 200,000 new signatures in a week.

>>714002997
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>714002978
Stop whining like a cuck on 4chan and start it yourself, or do you just like to watch?

>>714002476
My country then hahahahaha.
I knew that it had to be last or almost last. I made this map to see how bad we look on a graphical representation.

>>714002608
I am indeed ashamed of it, but it did just as I expected...

>>714002997
it's over... or maybe it never begin with...

>>714002967
Funny. I will send this to my friends.

thinking of signing it but i wont really benefit, my games are immortal

>>713997083
You know all those private servers for dead games? That's how you do it only it'll be legal now.

>>714000152
The ultimate anti-piracy measure is to make a game no one wants to play in the first place. It's genius.

>>714003170
Dont you guys have a big italexit movement as big as brexit.

>>>/g/105745720
>>>/g/105745782

>>714003158
You faggots killed all future game preservation attempts because you're niggers that worship ebeggars. Everyone with a plan, roadmap and a lexicon of resources that tries something in the future will just be painted as a retard by default thanks to your dysgenic subhuman efather.

>>714003316
You get other benefits if this passes, the biggest ones are:
>contributing to the suicide of a furry
>eternally cucking the big vidya jew

>>713999082
shit literally can't get any worse though

>>714003316
If you sign, less mortal games will be made, and more immortal games will be made, therefore you will have more immortal games to choose from.

>>714001630
>They either need to explicitly state that your license expires on a whim of theirs
They literally can't.
One of the types of terms of contract that in accordance with the EU's Unfair Contract Terms Directive (UCTD) 1993/13 is on an explicit blacklist of unfair terms that will never bind a consumer, is any term that has the object or effect of
"making an agreement binding on the consumer whereas provision of services by the seller or supplier is subject to a condition whose realization depends on his own will alone"

Literally, if they would put that type of term in, either the term is declared null and void - or the ENTIRE AGREEMENT will no longer bind the consumer. (Whereas the publisher would continue to be bound to it.)

>>713998829
Clearly making fun of that groomer ex-Blizzard QA tester that's currently being dunked by everyone for getting things wrong. Despite watching the powerpoint presentation clearly stating what this whole thing is actually about.

>>713999082
Do you think the Steam refunds change, which was explicitly brought in due to the Australian government applying pressure to Steam, was a bad thing and we should go back from that?

>NTA but
I don't care. I wanna hear what this guy has to say about it.

>>714003418
Keep watching and whining then you cuck

>>714003316
If you sign then server browsers come back.

>>714003170
>My country then
Yeah, I already shamed Italians here and on /int/ yesterday about being in last place. I actually got one italian to sign and one guy said he would but he doesn't have a passport. In Sweden you don't need a passport, you just enter your full name and social security number.

>>714003485
*fewer

>>714003328
And better, because devs will have to provide official software to do it.

>>714003470
i dont care about celebrities and jews
>>714003485
i dont play new games
>>714003602
i dont play online games, at least new ones. they're bad and you should be ashamed for playing them

>>714003529
That's what you're doing faggot. Did it feel good watching the faggy videos and writing down all of your personal information, just to be laughed at in the end because you're a low functioning autistic retard?

>>714003661
Fuck me

>>714002907
>Italians kind of suck at English.
yeah, the reason is they dub everything. movies, shows, games and cartoons.
in my country we only dubbed cartoons, subtitled shows and movies, and had no video game localization, so English fluency is higher. NOBODY learns English through school.

>>714003487 (cont.)
Note: this very same principle also means that if you are e.g. banned from a game for cheating, and the publisher is not willing to tell you how or why, you actually CAN fight that in court. And you'd probably win. Because there have to be terms of service you actually PROVABLY broke, or it's treated as them refusing you service on a whim.

>>714003697

>>714001630
They do exactly that.
>>714001938
That's what EU law says. If you pay for a service you must know at the time of sale for how long that service will last.
Since they don't do that, then this applies >>714003487 but it has never been challenged in court AFAIK, so they keep getting away with it.

>>714003697
>Tranime slopper
>Retard
Lol

>>714003724
Germans also dub everything and their english is better.

>>714003703
>keeps whining like a cuck
ok, stop now, you're being pathetic

STOP FUCKING DESTROYING VIDEO GAMES!!!!! I NEED TO PLAY MY UBISOFT SLOP FROM 2012 THAT THEY SHUT DOWN(THAT NO ONE PLAYED BTW)

>>714003695
now I think about it all the shady stuff will probably go down as well because of government involvement.

>>714003706
*Whips out cock* if you insist

>>714003110
The big 3 are carrying as usual

>>714003857
>STOP KILLING VIDEO GAMES
>PLEAAAASE
Cope, seethe & dilate retard.

>>714002498
>there usually isnt some shitty contract where your right to look at it expires and you can't look again after X days
Unless you're using a Kindle and bought off of Amazon.
Then they'll just happily delete books or apply historical revisionism to them without telling you.

Ecelebs I hate and reddit are supporting this garbage, it must be shit.

>>714003954
Kek, you're a cuck

>>714003972
I can still download Kindle books that were delisted if I paid for them.

>>714003990
Reddit bans every thread shilling this as problematic bandwagoning however.

>>714004027
>the cope laugh
Did you take a cope sip irl by chance?

>>714003990
>Ecelebs I hate
See, the fact alone that you even KNOW any e-celebs reveals you as a subhuman who shouldn't have any voting rights.

>>714003845
Germans are an oddity because they're good at everything except being funny

>>714004081
cuck

>>714004074
Or Reddit bans every thread on it because it uses the word killing and mods are bought out by Ubisoft and pals.

>>714004153
You're the one watching your cope virtue signaling petition 41%ing itself.

>>714004146
Our dubs are just of such an extreme high quality they're often better than the original.

>>714004114
Keep begging for signatures then, now I know you throw your lot in with fucking reddit of all things

>>714004146
And winning world wars.

>>713993620 (OP)
Gaming Must Die

>>714004230
Why are you so defensive about being called a cuck? That's cuck behavior.

>>714004291
Does it feel good watching it go nowhere, with your written stamp of approval of course?

>>714003990
Good goy. You understand well that it's not your place to think.

>>714004414
you keep deflecting, cuckboi

>>714004146
More like Italians are bad at everything except food

>>714003697
New games eventually become the old games, if they're allowed to live.

>>714004575
Keep coping with your signature, maybe if you voted harder things wouldn't be this way.

>>714003510
The Australian case was about defective products and the right to a proper functioning product.
Steam's refund policy and its 14-day / 2-hour window came from the EU. It's a commercial replacement for the EU's 14-day right of withdrawal enshrined in the Consumer Rights Directive 2011/83/EU (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32011L0083&from=EN)

The right of withdrawal initially didn't feature a waiver clause for digital content (Art 16m). This was added after industry lobbying as a concession for keeping their business models viable. It was given by the EU Commission to the industry as a gesture of good faith and they were warned to instead enact commercial refund policies that would, as much as possible, remain in line with the spirit of the original legal right of withdrawal. The EU periodically takes stock of the effects of its legislative efforts and the industry was warned that if it would be found to be abusing the waiver, the legislation would be revised to remove it - leaving them up shit creek.

Valve took that threat seriously and enacted that commercial alternative. And thus the Steam refund policy was born.
(And actually EA beat them to it by a few months.)

>>713997334
The only reason Asmongold defended him is because Thor happens to be a part of Mythic Talent, which Asmon is co-founder and co-owner of. It would look really, really fucking bad for all parties (other Mythic Talent content creators included) if Asmon didn't at least try to salvage the entire situation and get Thor to come halfway over. Unfortunately for him the damage has been done and Thor is so committed to his own fallacies that he still refuses to acknowledge he ruined the Stop Killing Games initiative by spreading misinformation and actively discouraging people from supporting it.

>>714001051
this is some next level fucking pilpul

>>714004586
And art and architecture, keep seething germonkey.

>>713993620 (OP)

IT'S UP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j51lNAw08Z8

>>714004652
There are already too many games. We don't need any new ones. In fact, we should start destroying more games because there are still too many.

>>714003487
Nice. In this case those shady corps can fuck off and forget about the EU buyers.

>>714004660
Maybe you keep responding because you enjoy the humiliation of being called a cuck?

>>714004810
Who are you to decide what gets destroyed? Different strokes for different folks (PirateSoftware should know).

>>714004803
another greasy used car salesman

>>714004814
God bless! I want all scummy corporations that push lootboxes, GaaS and other similar crap outta here!

I think it will settle down at about 750k if I have to guess.
We went from like 400k -> 650k in a couple of days, so its looking very good.
Once it settles, we'll need one more good push, hopefully a italian youtuber or something.
>>714004803
HOLY BASED
I saw he did an interview with ross on his smaller channel, him posting to 2 million subs is great, even if only a small minority are in europe.

>>714004928
I don't decide, the market does. If a game doesn't earn enough to maintain a central server it doesn't deserve to exist.

>>714004146
They did a funny once. People are still complaining.

>>714004830
I dunno, something about writing your name down just for your "cause" to get raped is very peculiar behavior. Hey at least the jewtuber got his record viewcount for this year.

>>714004928
Destroying everything released in the past 15 years by Ubisoft, EA, Squeenix, Activision, Blizzard, Take 2, Warner Brothers should deal with most shit I reckon

>>714004803
Why must everyone involved in this look like a caveman? Thanks, Steve.

>>714004943
He has more integrity than any youtuber guy in hardware. Tells off big companies for their lies all the time unlike shills like Linus (or Jason.)

>>713997015
No Italian will understand that bait, improve the bait next time, dear fed.

>>714005002
Holy cringe what a flop slop and this is its last week lmfao

>>714004282
I wouldn't say better than the original, but in case of most anime dubs the German ones are notably leaps and bounds better than most other dubs, in particularly consistently better than anything the US manages to same-voice together.

>>714005015
What if I can make it earn enough?

>>713993983
Something that bothers me... Detractors say this is bad for indies...

Are they stupid? Modern service games are designed to steal time with boring, time-wasting "engagement" tasks to try to keep players locked into obsessing over 1 game for years. If that was lessened to any degree, wouldn't that be more time people would spend playing other games, particularly indies? Specially since indies don't stuff dumb engagement metric shit in their games?

>>714003364
I don't know if it's big, as internet usually shows a skewed version of the reality, and not what actually happens.

>>714003642
I personally got involved some friends and my parents.
And, indeed, you don't need a passport for this. Just an ID or an eID.

>>714005065
Ok cuck

>>714005029
Admittedly that was a worst case deal.
Or as the Germans put it: a Wurst-Käse.

>>713997083
Can you not imagine spinning up a server to play an old game with some friends?

>>714005252
At least you're being supportive of your father, he got the bag.

>>714003110
pls link for John Stupid

obsessive cuck...

>>714005574
>game status: killed

>>714005224
Detractors are lying out of desperation to find any possible avenue of attack. Live service has always been the domain of large companies because small indies don't have the resources to implement live service crap.

>>713998063
As if you could not run your own WoW server in your own computer using stolen electricity.

>>714005224
Correct. Those detractors have manufactured a false argument.

Hahaha, I don't even need to reply. Cuck.

>>714005764
>the raped copes in shame
Many such cases.

>>713993620 (OP)

>Do something useful once in your life.

The people of the EU, and also the United Kingdom, should go outside and protest their Leftist government that is replacing them.with Muslims and pajeets and squeezing them out of their money with high taxes while also imprisoning them for practicing their Christian religion or saying something mean about their tyrannical Leftist leaders.

Oh wait, this is about video games? That's the important stuff OP was referring to?

>>713993874
2020
>THE LEFT WANTS US TO OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY!
2025
>OWNING THINGS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU FUCKING COMMUNIST

>>714005803
>woman
Didn't read.

>>714001313
>>714005102
So you're saying I should translate that into Italian?

Do you see what I've done to you? I called you cuck so much that you instinctively associate a post containing cuck with yourself.

>>714006019
It's not. It's Ranjesh copy&pasting whatever he's been told to.

>>714006019
Here you go. Male.

>>714005803
Ross literally did try to reach out through language barriers and all, but got back zilch from EU content creators. At the time I myself reached out to some channels that allowed user-submitted news as well, but consistently got back the message that they weren't going to move on anything and were waiting for it to gain traction and "become relevant" - i.e. become big enough under its own power to become 'juicy' enough to serve as decent click-bait.

>>714005803
>Doesnt speak to eurofags about european proposal
>Doesnt spread it outside his channel
>After it completely flops when theres only one week left he turns it into dramaslop when its doomed to fail
>Dox, dogpile and harass an innocent man
Bravo, rossdrones will still defend this shit when it inevitably flops btw

I have a proposal for a new EU initiative after this one passes:
Crucify all corporate shills along major roads in Europe.

>>714005081
Simple fact really

>>713997015
Italians don't speak English, anon.

How will we save gayming blackedgovbros? We need to get Trump to tweet about Stop killing Games.

>>714005926
I dunno what is with burgers and extrapolating the UK with the EU. They left, you know...

Imagine if the EU's response to the dilemma of "how do you preserve a game that relies on third party software to run?" were "ahhhh give the consumer access to the software too"

is something so insane even remotely feasible

>>714006224
Ross looks so fucking ugly, no wonder no one wants to sign this shit.

i hate italy so much bro

Eceleb threads are off topic

As an american, if this passes i will not make a joke at EUfags expense for ONE (1) year. even when attacked directly. Ball is in your court EUfags. You are our only hope.

>>714005803
>Do you think most Europeans watch US content?
I'm Polish and I only consume US content. Stupid cunt.

>>714006195
I only support Ross because he fucked maldavius figtree.

>>714006273
Cuntinentals are being replaced harder and arent allowed borders btw

I'm wanting a jrpg/turn based game to play. Should I start persona or smt and which one?

>>714006472
play smt iv or fes

it's funny how easy it is for the left and right to unite, even unconsciously on "i would like to own the shit I fucking paid for, please"

>>714005224
Correct, detractors are dishonest and stupid. They arent mutually exclusive. Most of them haven't even read the citizens iniatitive, and some of them are nutty an caps who fear that signing a petition will lead to their house being invaded. A few of them want to be enslaved to a mutated roach king.

>>714006329
And the only counter to that solution is "uh we don't want to give it to them". Since the reason is so blatantly and pointlessly anti-customer, I could see that just being the sensible solution

>>713997076
There are only two rights: Control over your body and control over your property. Anything else is an attempt to infringe on those two rights.

>>714006570
Except the left never wants that.

>>714006449
What did you say? I cannot understand you with that mouth full of paki cock. Btw, bongs are not allowed borders either, specifically Northern Ireland and Gibraltar ones.

>>714006426
Deracinated ghoul, I hope putler annexes all you eastern leeches, take back east germany too, give em finland and sneeden while were at it, americanized wretches.

>>713999082
>old men
WARNING WARNING

>>714006632
Preventing me from being able to revoke access to my property undermines my control of my property.

>>714006625
It's literally not theirs to give. Like all commie programs this requires theft and forced labor to work.

>>714006401
Before I accept your offer I need to know what jokes you make. I need to know if this is a good deal.

>>713999185
>>714006249
Move your thread to /b/ so commies can kill it with CP spam.

>>714006625
Nothing beats fighting for kids to cut their dicks off and getting jewjabbed at command.

>>714006657
Open your eyes at the people supporting this initiative, half of them are lefties and trannies. Maybe that will be enough for you to rethink your support. It would be funny if it was.

>>714006775
Don't sell it if you want full control, simple as.

>>714006807
>Communism is when you buy games and don't get to keep them.

Supid caveman.

>>714006183
>they weren't going to move on anything and were waiting for it to gain traction and "become relevant" - i.e. become big enough under its own power to become 'juicy' enough to serve as decent click-bait.
gross and disgusting. bearers of news are supposed to break stories, not wait for them to blow up before even reading them
that said, you could probably try telling them again since it's 'blowing up' now

>>714006863
Which is why I won't be supporting this because I know leftists do not have the interests of the common people in mind.

>>714006923
Communism is when you undermine the IP owner's private property right to deny access to the property.

>>713997406
>You're gonna pay extra money just to keep the game's server running? Along with maintenance, repairs, service, and so on?
No, some rich mentally ill furry autist in Slovenia that has a hyperfixation with the game will do it for me.

>>714005113
>this is its last week lmfao
?

>>714006991
IP law is market control and undermines competition.

>>714006689
go back to cess/pol/ where you belong

Kek, it really do be like this

>>714006863
>half
so you're saying it has support spanning political ideologies, and the only reason you disagree with it is to be contrarian?

>>714006156
I don't think so.

>>714006750
Desperate.

>>714006991
Caveman lawyer wants to make it so that I don't own a copy of anything. That DVD of a movie I bought? I couldn't play it anymore if movies were like games.

Thanks. Ironically you are making a world where you will have to pirate everything.

i wonder how many israeli ips are in this thread

>>713999082
Corpos have been using the government to fuck us in the ass for decades but when we use government to fight back it's immoral and wrong? Eat shit and die libertaricuck. You will perform the most elaborate mental gymnastics to justify why sitting on your fat ass makes you morally superior, and when corpos collude with or control governments to fuck over the rest of us somehow that's just "the free market bro vote with your wallet :)". Fuck you, you cowardly fat faggot. Go suck corpo cock on your own time.

>>714002024
>Learn to move on
Why?

>>714007202
don't think about it goy

>>714007080
Market control-competition axis is orthogonal to the capitalism-communism axis. It is possible to have a heavily controlled and regulated market that nevertheless respects property rights, and a market full of competition that does not respect private property.

Americans just think communism is when a government does literally anything besides send money to Israel

>>714007202
But I thought that jews controlled the entertainment industry. You need to pick a struggle commie faggot.

>>714006991
>the IP owner's private property right to deny access
This is stipulated in the license. He the IP owner isn't smart to do it in a way satisfactory for him, he will be displaced by competition. If he is unhappy with some country's laws that prevent doing what he wants, he can go suck a dick.

>>714007202
The bare minimum and just for overseeing. They use jeets nowadays.

>>714007309
>But I thought that jews controlled the entertainment industry
isnt vidya technically part of it now?

>>714007309
Read what he said again, slowly.

>>714007294
>EUssr wants to stop sending money to israel and get rid of israels nukes
Sorry Eurabian youll never be able to hurt the jewish people ever again.

>>714007189
Piracy brought us to this situation in the first place. It was because pirates were allowing unlimited access to content that IP owners needed to work on developing technology to make revoking access practical.

>>713998286
>listening to that fag when he pulled out an MS Paint chalkboard just to say nothing but bullshit for 45 minutes.

>everyone disproves all his points on social media

maybe gamers do deserve less for being such easily swayed boot lickers.

>Just force corporations to do extra work to solve this non problem
>WTF why do video games cost more now?!

>>713993620 (OP)
the fuck happened in Spain and Poland?

>>714007461
>again
The doors won't be wooden this time.

>>713997083
ME YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER, JUST GIVE ME THE CODE

>>714007489
>darvo
kill yourself

>>714007453
Always was.
>>714007454
Stop stealing my culture.

>>714007285
If the IP owner is unhappy that the consumers are unhappy enough with not owning their expensive purchase that in most cases could easily be put in their hands that they petition the government for regulation, they should either adapt or take their business elsewhere. Boycotts are often not realistic with extremely popular products or products for which the issues are not immediately apparent. People aren't going to stop drinking from plastic water bottles outright just because it's common knowledge that they're going to give you cancer. Sometimes it's just too convenient and it's not your immediate problem, and that's what dominates in the end. It would still be a good thing to regulate away from this sort of thing.

>>714007534
>corporation invents a problem just so it can perform planned obsolescence
>WTF why do we have to stop with our shitty practices?

>>714007534
>let corpos do whatever they want
>WTF why do video games cost more now!?

>>714007534
It's more like forcing them to do less work and spend less money, actually. It costs time and money to add live service features in the first place.

>>714007554
Poland went into space!

>>714003510
It definitely made sales less interesting and developers more inclined to backload their games so now it's impossible to know if a game is good just from the first two hours. They literally changed nothing, just shifted their weight elsewhere to get around that shit.

>>714007668
uh yes people should be allowed to create video games how they want, why should some small dick bureaucrat leech in Brussels have any control over that?

>>714007489
>vidya is more profitable than ever
>publishing vidya is cheaper than ever
>monetizing vidya is easier than ever
>"NOOOO THOSE DANG PIRATES ARE DRIVING US OUT OF BUSINESS"
It is easier than ever to succeed in the vidya market, if you can't hack it without outright sabotaging your games to try and stop piracy from having a slim to nil effect on your margins, you do not deserve to be in business.

>>714007838
Why are you shifting goalposts? I thought the problem was higher prices?

>not even 700k
not gonna make it, it's over, it's ogre, it's joever, nothing ever happens

>>714000517
Private property, personal property, and possessions are the same thing. I refuse to allow a gommunist to define reality.

>>714007090
shut up frognigger

>>714007838
>corpos should be able to do what they want and consumers will naturally stop them
>but NOT if it involves the consumers using the government to stop them!
>corpos being in bed with the government is fine though : )

>>714007921
Yes higher prices due to extra work imposed so that The Crew can still work in 2025

>>714007986
W

>>714007554
I told my bros to sign.

>>714008059
What about higher prices due to them wanting more money?

>>714007554
Spain woke up from fiesta
Poland finally arrived with the new cars

>>713993654
Pretty much.

>22k new registrations
Once again it's double of the required daily registrations, it did slow down a little bit but I hope people here will try to push the info to euro gamers since I already seen posts from handful of people from my country that they never heard about it until past few days.

>>714008059
Not that anon but you arent convincing anyone. its over. Just jump ship and kill yourself in front of your masters honorably.

I will own the things I buy with the fruit of my labor and I will rape anyone who says otherwise.

>648,808 signatures towards 1,000,000 goal
>with a month to go
That's really good actually. There's potential for this to actually go through.

>>714008059
Extra work that would not exist if companies made proper end of life plans for their games.

Do you have any idea how much cheaper and easier it would be to make and sell higher-quality remasters if publishers weren't obsessed with destroying all the work that went into a game immediately after it ships?

>>714007838
>uh yes people should be allowed to create video games how they want,
Yes. They should be allowed shitty business practices though.
Now kys you dishonest subhuman

>>713999938
>How can someone be so mindbroken to actively shill against something that will result in you having better private property rights, HOW?
Because Pirate Software is/was:
>A nepo baby who only got a job at Blizzard (as Q&A, not QA) because his grandfather works at Blizzard
>Fired his job at Blizzard because he was caught abusing his position to look up people's private account information and leak/dox them if they pissed him off or one of his gay furry internet friends asked him to
>Horrible at playing WoW despite having worked as Q&A for the game that he got an entire raid party wiped on a permadeath server because he refused to save anybody but himself
>In a gay furry internet relationship with some chink boy named Lyric, who he used to dox a 14-year old kid because said kid criticized Pirate Software's inability to finish his Undertale knockoff game that's long since been abandoned
>Jealous that Lyric was far more successful in life than he ever was, so after cheating on him with another gay furry Pirate doxxed him and lied out of his ass in order to have Lyric's university drop him from classes, honors, etc.
Seriously, you can't make this shit up. https://web.archive.org/web/20250624061753/https://piratesoftware.sucks/summary
>Using his grandfather's connections again to get nepo-hired by Asmongold's Mythic Talent agency
>So far up his own ass about literally anything and everything, but because he's in Mythic Talent the algorithm favors him and continues to push his channels up front for people to click on and therefore absolves him of literally anything he does wrong

Everyone against this is : not a game developer, Contrarian, Bait, or Shill, and is simply choosing a side based on apathy towards the scenario in their head about developers "having more work" they get paid to do these things you know thats why theyre DEVELOPERS.

The notion that all developers are widdle babies dat cant handwe dah work is faggot shit to excuse the lazy fucks in game dev or underqualified tards in over their head.

Planned Obsolecence is bad full stop.
This is a win for consumers if this works out. I feel no sympathy for million dollar corporations having a bit more work on their plate theyre going to outsource most of it regardless.

Funny how it took to Ross finally shit on Roach to regain momentum.

>>714008010
Iran lost due to self castration of the p*rsissyan niggercattle. Back to the front with a kuran on your lips and hiv in your bloodstream.

Reminder that 70 percent of games will be dead games if you don't pass this.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/70-of-games-with-online-requirements-are-doomed-according-to-stop-killing-games-survey

>>714008342
You lost rossdrone, skg flopped

>>714007554
>Poland
Couple of news articles got posted and some minor ecelebs did videos on it, but also general exposure from anglosphere content.

>>714008226
What if they want to be raped?

>>714008240
It does require one more big influential face to talk about it to followers or public middle of July, I just hope everything isn't shot first half of upcoming month.
Other option is Jason taking some bait and start another fire.

>>714008332
>I feel no sympathy for million dollar corporations having a bit more work on their plate theyre going to outsource most of it regardless.
Arguably it actually means less work because it takes work to set up the planned obsolescence stuff in the first place.

>>714007986
No shit. Trying to re-push the campaign with literally only 5 weeks left is retarded. This should've happened 2-3 months ago.
If you want to make a deal for popular channels to promote this shit it's going to take weeks.

>>714008208
>>714008240
Nah, the daily signatures are dropping way too fast. With this pace it'll reach 750k-880k at best. Even the overoptimistic scenario would be 950k.

>>714006931
I told them more or less the same, albeit more politely. Nearly got myself a ban out of it for 'going against moderators.'
So yeah- not going to bother trying again.

>>714008397
This ain't going nowhere though. It was over before the petition was available to the public.

>>714002382
Updated to include every percentage.
Fixed invisible Malta.

>>714007534
>nooooooooo don't force corpos to stop doing anti-consumer shit rrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
corporations raise prices anyway
they could also avoid being affected by this initiative by choosing to make actual games instead of live-service slop, so get fucked

I started out as a SKG shill but seeing ross be so dishonest and finally watching piratesoftwares video I didn't watch initially because I was butthurt made me realize that this shit is legit really fucking badly organized

>>714008332
I think if we're trying to fight apathy... We could try to personify this scenario....
Y'know.... Make a video-games-tan.... And maybe the signature can be everyone's soul force or something... To stop the evil big corpo from killing... y'know what nevermind, it's a dumb idea.

>>714008681
based shitalian gypsies

>>714007554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3E2x4ZL-sI
this guy covered the drama

>>714008513
They think they do, but they don't.

>>714008746
>I don't like the guy at the helm therefore fuck owning my games
weird flex but ok

>>714008323
>if we plan to do extra work the extra work doesn't count
this doesn't make sense

The thing that bothers me about this campaign is this.
There is a theory of the subconscious used in hypnosis which goes that that the subconscious doesn't process negatives like "don't" or "stop".
So if I tell you "don't give me any more money" you consciously understand this, but your subconscious mind only processes "give me more money"
So even if this campaign was completely well intentioned from the start, and none of these threads were forced or inorganic, the meme your subconscious gets is basically "kill games".

So I hide every one of these threads I see.
Come up with a better meme like "Keep games alive" and I'll pay more attention.

>>713997241
how many more people do y'all expect to sign out of spite for pirate?

>>714008746
Sorry, I'll go easier on your butt next time

>>713999938
americans are totally buck broken as a people
t. american

>>714008681
holy fuck I fogot Luxembourg even existed hahahahaha
who the fuck lives in Luxembourg? Luxembourgians? Luxembouggatis? Luxlorians?

Last I heard was PS started deleting vods of when he talked about it so people couldn't look back at what a shithead he was being. Did anything funny happen since then?

>>714008870
that's really interesting psychic stuff
but also no one here is probably in charge of the name

>>714008873
ALL OF THEM

>>714008961
>Tranime
._.

We need 7 more estonians to sign it so that Estonia can be part of Greater Europe™.

>>714008332
Correction I misused the word apathy, I meant to say people are sympathetic for game devs because many are quick to run to twitter and yell about how hars their jobs are therefore there is a notion that all game dev work is hard and just too much for them.

>>714008972
Pirate's a humble king that doesn't want to be seen as too ruthless. He shouldn't have taken down the holy gospel, but in the end it made everyone seethe. Bless him.

>>714008681
Post this on Leddit, unironically

>>714008961
>GODnime

:D

How far along would we be if brexit never happened?

>>713993874
Bootlicking vermin.
Capitalism will be slain or humanity will perish.

>>713999938
I exercised my rights to not do business with shitty people. I don't need any more rights.

>>714008972
>took down his crap
>penguinz0 made a video about him
Oh good, he's getting what he deserves.

>>714009239
I don't have a Reddit, but I don't care for credits and stuff. If someone reposts this, is a reward itself. You can do it yourself if you have one.

>>713993874
>Rightoid scum is finally admitting that it hates owning things and just wants to empower corporations to fuck their ass harder

You people won't have power for decades after this cycle is over.

>>714009280
Quite a bit more, I think. Not enough to make it but it would be way closer imo.

>>714002967
accurate

>>713999082
Please die. Thank you.

>>714009427
Well yea you guys are going to ban right wing parties to keep them out lol.

>>714009392
>>penguinz0
Is xhe trans?

>>714009392
>>penguinz0 made a video about him
Damn that's actually great.

>>713999082
This post is proof that paranoid schizophrenia should be considered a crime not an illness.

>>714009539
Might makes right, cry about it

>>713993874
False flag rightoid
Companies keep us in a socialist/communist form of media consumption.

Owning what you buy is Capitalistic.

If this was bait then good job but also fuck you

>>714009427
You didn't vote hard enough, sissy.

>>714008397
Good. Keep killing games. Maybe then the niggercattle will finally learn they won't.

>>714009672
What was that you were saying before about mask off?

>>714009672
Yea that’s why no one cares when corpos kill your games.

>>714008870
Oh fuck, another magic practitioner?
You're right that trying to 'kill' another ideal with a negative like "love TRUMP's hate" is futile, because the bigger ideal just grows stronger from it, but in this case I think some ideas are weak to sunlight.
The title "Stop Killing Games" raises the question to someone who's unaware, "what? games are being killed? How? By Whom?" while "Keep Games Alive" doesn't imply any villain and can be about loads of other things. EA and other companies would rather people forget about live service shutoffs, they don't want attention from governments which exactly what a campaign like this does.

tl;dr: some magic is stronger in the dark, but it can be KILLED with sunlight.

>>714006807
But they sold it to customers. It makes no sense for them to buy server solutions from one company, package it up and resell access to those solutions to the end-user (involving them in that transaction downstream) and then turning around and saying that they didn't actually do that.

That's deceptive, hidden terms that are completely one-sided agreements meant to veil the fact that they're effectively sub-licensing software but not actually allowing them to access that software that they're selling to people. See how that should be illegal?

>>714009691
>Yellow fever spammer
Didn't sign.

>>714009790
Are you gonna play victim now? Is that all the right does?

>>714009672
True, from the river to the sea palishits will never be.

>>714009910
Making this a left/right issue doesn’t help your cause.

It's telling how the shills for this movement don't even pretend to care about saving games like The Crew, they just want to hurt corporations that make games for no reason. Unfocused bitterness and loserdom as a political movement, sad and scary.

>>713999938
/pol/ is a contagion that turns paranoid schizophrenics into the most loyal corporate lapdogs on Earth.
It's just colored differently.

There's also people like me who deliberately make arguments just so that the argument can be publicly debunked before a PirateSoftware type makes it.

>>714009980
You think that because you don't know my cause.

>>714009982
That became obvious when they decided to attack people questioning their petition instead of trying to convince people about their cause.

Shout out to the minority of you who actually bother to convince people of your cause. I see you and you guys are drowning in a sea of trolls.

>>713997015
Im italian and i wish that this succeded but i would have to go through the whole process of signing the petion and that might involve having to take my document and do stuff and i can't be bothered

>>714009902
Shes white

>>714010080
Your cause isn’t to stop killing games?

>>714010108
W

>>714009982
>>714010087
You are worthless bootlicking filth and you are going to lose this war.
You fucking pieces of shit.

>>714010170
No

>>714010261
What war?

>>714010170
Not that guy but a lot of people have a higher motive of damaging these greedy hobby-destroying companies as much as humanly possible.
And that's a good thing.

>>714010261
Skg flopped lmfao, its only supporters are dramasloppers

>>714009982
You talk as if corporations are good and without sin.
Customers are only protecting themselves, rightfully.

>>714010108
Then you might as well make it easy on yourself and hand over your pasta now.

>>714009982
They just ask for the source code like the talentless tranny bums they are. The plan so far is to cry out loud how video games are being killed, and giving views to jewtuber losers instead of actually coming up with solutions like middleware drop in replacements that will make preserving games easier.

>>714010305
>*subversive elements intensify*

>>714010345
Instigating division with left/right rhetoric isn’t going to help your cause.

>>714001505
>a publisher could legally randomly come to your house and light in on fire
>It was real in my mind

>>714010309
The one you are losing.

Kill yourself

NOW

>>714009982

>>713997015
Ehi... W-we can talk about this... In a diplomatic way, alright?

>>714010467
lol you kids are so incredibly impotent.
>>714010406
So this is primarily about anti-corporatism and not increasing standards on terms of service offered by online games?

>>714010432
Why are you crying foul? Stop being a bitch.

>>714010467
>reddit spacing
>
>based nigger
>
>cringe

>>714001834
>games used to be preservable by default
>let me "preserve this" yoink
>I will just give this to 100.000 other people hurr hurr, i'm "preserving" it

>>714010592
I’m greatly enjoying watch the most divisive people online try and collect enough support for a political movements. It’s hilarious how much of a train wreck this has been.

Sad because the reasoning is sound.

>>714010432
I said nothing about either left or right, you despicable bacterial colony.

You retards are so transparent it's pathetic.

>>714010565
You don't care what it's about. You're just looking for ways to lick the boot.

what's it called when I agree with what Stop Killing Games wants to accomplish, but seeing it hyped up and advertised so much every single day this week pisses me off enough that I want it to fail just out of spite

>>714010621
This. Central server dependence was invented to solve piracy. The fault is on the consumers themselves, not the corporations.

>>714010565
>>714010602
Final (You)
enjoy it my friends.

>>714010704
follow the reply chain, cretin.
>>714010723
Projecting. I’ve been following this stuff since the beginning since EU decisions have the potential to impact standard industry practice in the US.

I which you guys were more mature so this petition could have a greater chance at success.

>>714010732
Youre autism and incelism.

>>714010723
They make me wonder if the boots actually taste that good.

>>714010732
It's called you need to stop going to 4chan.

>>714010732
It's called being retarded. You'll grow out of it eventually.

>>714010779
dilate

bro

>>714010732
Contrarianism

>>714010732
It's called being a faggot who is retarded and gay.

>>714010694
Divisive? Everyone that knows about it, is for it, even you.

>>714010732
Realizing it's a tranny gayop.

>>714010895
Yet it still doesn’t have enough signatures. Almost like you guys need to convince people who don’t know about it or are on the fence about it.

But you’re inherently too divisive to be the ones championing this movement.

>>714010549
Your signature or your pasta.

>>714010792
>mutt
Okay, I understand the bootlicking now

>>714010732
I'll say it
BASED

I have no idea how or why these threads have became such a cesspool.

Can someone create a petition
STOP WOKE'ING GAMES!

>>714010732
Based

>>714010973
Perfect example of divisiveness.

>dilate

>bro

>>714010967
Nah, there's a language barriers and gamers are just lazy

>>714011029
This movement very quickly got hijacked by US vs EU politics and the trolls that come along for that show.
Americans can’t participate in these threads without being called bootlickers, mutts, and everything else that comes with the territory.

>>714011014
>>714010732
Cringe and gay.

>>714011029
un ironically paid shills from the AAA publishers wishing to bury this as much as possible, with either as much of false bullshit or with concern troll tactics.

>>714010732
Being a hipster

>>714011049
Making fun of America unites Europeans you retarded mutt

>>714011096
I think it has more to do with the most active people championing this movement are highly divisive. Just look at these threads.

>>714011029
Anonymous imageboard + Petition that requires ID = dumb children trolling out of spite because they are too young to even participate

>>714011136
>>714011154
So why isn't the Jewish moderation staff doing anything to clean up the obvious trolling? Nevermind, I answered my own question.

>>714011183
Europe isn't a country, I hope the EUssr gets forcibly divided and all the former member states have huge borderwalls between them and cut off their internets so I never have to hear from these smug fags ever again.

>>714011232
I don't care what you think, I care about objective reality

>>714011136
>Americans can’t participate in these threads without being bootlickers
ftfy

>>714011183
Obviously not since you don’t have enough signatures.
Anti-American posting just makes unaware euros think this is just yet another fight like DSA, when it’s not. You’re inviting the divisiveness of a different political issue into your movement by doing this.

>>714011236
>imageboard
>posting personal information
reddit moment

>>>>714011316
>>>>714011316
>>>>714011316

NEW THREAD

>>714011295
new to /v/?
>>714011335
objective reality is that you still don’t have enough signatures after months. Less divisiveness would have helped, but it’s too late.

>>714011326
>EU isn't a country
So? We all hate you mutts equally

>>714011326
>MIGAbro still doesn't realise that EU, let alone Europe, will outlive his association of states that's becoming looser every year

>>714011345
You keep crying foul like a bitch, go back to rddit faggot.

>>714011136
Because they are bootlickers, mutts, and everything else.

I'm American and every fellow citizen I run this initiative by has a kneejerk reaction of
>CORPORATIONS GOOD, CONSUMER RIGHTS BAD
>OWNING WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS COMMUNISM
>ABJECT GREED IS OKAY, ESPECIALLY AT MY EXPENSE

Even the most turbo-leftist communist I know had the initial reaction of "actually they aren't doing anything wrong"

Americans are corporate golems. It disgusts me on a spiritual level. I'm surrounded by retarded filth and I hate it.

>>714011584
I’m here enjoying the fruit of your efforts. One month left to get how many signatures?

>>714011417
>new to /v/?
Kinda wish I was. You're not called /v/ermin for no reason, you know? But there's something about this hobby that attracts the stupidest children incapable of engaging in any meaningful manner with anything. It's a shame.

>>714011657
you sound like an ideologically motivated retard. Americans are so easily captured by foreign ideologies, they simply can’t think for themselves.

>>714011362
>An official government website that already knows who you are when your IP hits their site
>Imageboard

You are an actual retard and proving how much of a child you are.

>>714007554
Polaks understand the dangers of HoMM 3 dying

>>713999938
You clearly haven't been around Americans for long enough for you to be questioning this.

>>714010732
>fuck owning what I bought, I'm not going to sign anything just to spite the faggots who organized it
it's called being a faggot son

>>714011657
I'm not American and I refuse to believe this stupid caricature. You're a bad actor trying to stir up controversy. Stop being silly.

>>714011743
Fuck off.
There is no excuse for claiming this movement is communist. It's deranged nonsense and is doing exactly what you claim.

>>714009982
I don't have to personally care but if even one person that exists did I would like them to not have their game broken for no good reason.

>>714011746
Not going to your gay jewish website, I'll stay on this gay jewish board. Ain't no one got time for that.

>>714011417
>>714011670
Get back to your failing stream maldavius

>>714011657
>OWNING WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS COMMUNISM
Undermining the private property rights of the IP owner is communism.

>>714011832
Fuck you. I hate being surrounded by trash like this. Hopefully you stay the fuck out if you're this naive.

>>714011868
I haven’t claimed that the movement is communist. I’ve only claimed that the people championing this movement are extremely defensive and thus divisive. You guys don’t try to make friends, which is a fatal flaw in politics.
>>714011923
Who is that?

>>714008746
Shalom!

>>714012024
>Who is that
Lmao, is that the best you got?

>>714011868
It undermines private property rights. That is by definition communist.

>>714011954
Stealing goods from customers that paid for them is unacceptable under any form of government and you need to be killed for actively supporting it.

>>714012000
That's all well and good, but these threads are better without your insincere caricatures.

>>714008845
This is really good, foreign channels even tho seemingly smaller have far better reach in the countries that matter. We can only hope that other italian ecelebs jump on.

>>714012121
Corporation undermine private property rights, they are communist and need to be stoped.

>>714010732
It's so annoying, I just want to be left alone, not be dragged along for this shit. Fuck off, all of you.

>>714012146
It is not stealing, it is defending the sanctity of intellectual property ownership.

>>714008864
Are you actually a nigger? Why is the concept of planning for the future alien to you?

>>714012225
You're in a thread that's on page 10, who do you think you're fooling retard?

>>714012216
Corporations are private entities that own property. Defending corporations is defending private property ownership rights. Attacking private corporations is communism.

>>714012119
are you going to answer the question?

>>714011954
They can give out licenses for pay and then arbitrarily destroy them. Either have clear and fair terms for duration(no arbitrary loss), refund, or just don't break it.

Hi there my fellow Europeans. Sure it would be good if this passed. But don't you think it would be a lot funnier to see it fail? Think about it. Remember tortanic? Imagine the seethe. Imagine the laughs.

>>714008870
>"um ackshually I can magically tell you mean the opposite of what you're doing"
This is some retarded woman shit, gonna consult the magic crystals next?

>>714012429
Kek, kino. Hope it fails and based pirate software wins

>>714012429
No :^)

>>714009982
>UM DID YOU PERSONALLY PUT 100 HOURS INTO THIS BIDEO GAME? IF NOT THEN IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU CHUD STOP FIGHTING FOR YOUR FUTURE"

>>714012024
Nobody doing this anonymously cares about being nice because you people are so fucking scummy and under-handed with the way you argue that real arguments can only happen with a face attached.

Anyone against the movement is a worthless piece of shit that deserves only death.
This isn't about convincing people to vote for a candidate anyway. It's about for fighting for rights by any means necessary. Something you will never understand because you are worthless bootlicking corporate scum.

You have my personal guarantee that if resolving this peacefully is taken off the table, I will escalate to disruptive protests that hinder as many schedules as possible.

>>714012397
Pretending to be retarded doesn't work, I sniffed you out

>>714012184
>>714012253

Die in a fire, you piece of shit.