is HDR really that big a deal for gaming?

>>714029908 (OP)
Most lighting is a meme, and should be baked in but devs are retarded

Wait until 4KR is out.

HDR+OLED are unironically more noticable than resolution

It is a big deal for AMD. You leave it permanently toggled on Windows/Linux.

For Nvidia its a broken mess.

>>714029908 (OP)
It's only a big deal on OLED, and Mini/MicroLED displays. Every other display tech can't even do HDR, at most they can accept the HDR signal and than boost color saturation.

>OLED
im currently looking for a monitor and oled scares me because of burn in. Thoughts?

>>714029908 (OP)
>turn off HDR mode
>SDR looks like left
yep seems like a really big deal.

>>714029908 (OP)
I have no idea if my settings are right, but when I play GTA5 on my Series X, sometimes the sun is so bright it hurts my eyes. Nights look great tho.

>>714029908 (OP)
>HDR
stupid meme
give me crisp, blur-free displays like CRTs you fucking cunts

>>714030248
>CRTs
grandpa its 2025 already

>>714029908 (OP)
a reshade preset will do this for free

>>714029908 (OP)
people actually hate high dynamic range. it makes it impossible to see shit inside buildings because sunlight is dazzlingly bright while the interior is too fucking dark to make anything out

>>714029908 (OP)
Not in pc gaming. Get a ps5 instead for hdr

>>714029908 (OP)
yeah but preferably with miniLED's. OLED fucking sucks avoid that shit even with TV's.

>>714029908 (OP)
This is clearly not HDR.

>>714030363
>Get a ps5

Once you see it in gameplay, it's real noticeable.

im on windows 10 if i get a good monitor will hdr work ?

>>714030287
>current year
>still no display technology that can dethrone the CRT as the king

>>714030086
HDR on OLED can suck due to the aggressive ABL they require to keep the pixels from exploding
Just go look at the peak brightness curve of any OLED and it's disgusting, can't even maintain 300 nits fullscreens.

>>714030159
I'm currently shopping around for one and was thinking the same thing. Some people have told me the burning is mostly an issue with older models, and if you leave something on your screen on for a long time. So, maybe it isn't much of an issue as we think?

I just bought a mini LED monitor

>>714030673
Is it the AOC one? I have the same one.

>>714030248
>no motion blur
>great at low resolutions
>even able to go up to 4k60fps interlaced with a high-end dac
>BUT IT WEIGHS MUCH AND USES MUCH POWER
I fucking hate it. It's even more infuriation if you compare them to the LCDs that replaced them at the time and how overpriced they were.

>>714029908 (OP)
Yeah proper HDR is a massive upgrade.

>>714029908 (OP)
>create dogshit rendering engine that washes everything out
>add contrast back in with meme technology

>>714030704
Yeah the AOC Q27G3XMN. I just don't want to deal with burn in

>>714029908 (OP)
not really, a good monitor will look good regardless of hdr or not
also windows hdr support is fucking stupid, because the rest of the os is still sdr and looks like shit when hdr is turned on so instead of fixing the rest of everything being sdr they just give us buggy auto hdr

Display technology is in a bad spot right now

>>714030618
>and if you leave something on your screen on for a long time.
thats the problem. i plan to use it as a monitor and tv. when on my pc i spend lots of time in a browser and video/photo editing. those kinds of programs have static UI elements and i honestly spend a LOT of time doing those three things. so im worried, some people say using dark mode helps but doesnt 100% get rid of the chance of burn in. in my browser of choice (firefox) and editing programs as well as winblows itself i use dark mode in anything/any site that supports it and a lot do but apparently its still not 100% fool proof way.

>>714030876
Not only this but also the anti-soul fog that makes everything grey. It's like the gen7 piss filter but with any of the kino.
Pic related is fucking 768p at 42" on a Plasma.

>2006+19
>still can't have a screen that doesn't suck in at least one aspect
Whatever you buy, you still lose in the end.

>>714031132
Plasma was as close to perfection was we got.

>>714029975
you do realise hdr has to do with actual hardware, not software, right

>>714031183
plasma had mad burn in issues iirc

>>714031315
Eh, software does matter. HDR in windows is a fucking travesty, and some games just cannot do HDR right like Elden Ring.

>>714031407
true, but that poster that I was replying to probably thought it was something akin to raytracing instead of actual display technology

>>714031315
wrong. HDR in shaders means the values can exceed 1.
in SDR, shader values will range from 0-1. In hardware, HDR has to do with the range of colors that the monitor can display.

>>714029908 (OP)
The problem is it's basically OLED exclusive unless you've either got a MicroLED of high quality or one of the few LCD TVs that can seriously give it a good run. PC monitor HDR generally sucks by comparison, and both Linux and Windows 11 offer garbage HDR compatibility options to boot. The whole thing is such an inconsistent bag of dicks that while I get people bitching about the Switch 2 screen not having proper brightness nits for HDR, at the end of the day at least it's a consistent source internally for what it's trying to do versus most other shit, just really needs an OLED revision to make the most of it.

what is the best 42/3 inch 4k 144 hz monitor ?

HDR looks great when I see youtube videos on my tv, but when I connect my pc to the tv the hdr makes colors look dull, even with a 2.1 hdmi. Anyone knows why?

>>714029908 (OP)
This is not what it looks like in person lol

>>714033114
You need to configure the HDR settings in Windows, and make sure you have RGB Full mode on in your graphics card settings. Also make sure you TV isn't turning on "PC Mode", some TV's do that and it makes the picture look like shit.

>>714030897
Tim from Monitors Unboxed intentionally burned in his monitor by using it as a work monitor with no mitigations whatsoever and uploaded the results over time on the Monitors Unboxed youtube channel.
I probably wouldn't be happy but I keep my tech for many years. (relative Poorfag)

hdr is only good if it doesn't wash out the overall contrast of the screen when enabled, which 80% of displays do.

>>714031102
I was thinking about buying a small OLED just to watch movies and play games, while using a large screen for work. Is it worth it? Is that your photo?

>>714030159
>>714030618
Burn-in hasn’t been an issue for almost 5 years now.

>>714030201
>sometimes the sun is so bright it hurts my eyes
It's like that in real-life, too.

>>714035013
>Burn-in hasn’t been an issue for almost 5 years now
Yeah because MiniLEDs exist

>>714030086
Isn't HDR just a command to up the brightness? Like a nice LED TV could do it with the backlighting zones.

>>714029908 (OP)
if this image was real they would both look the same on a sdr monitor

>>714029908 (OP)
It's great when the devs implement it correctly. Unfortunately many don't. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is by far the best that HDR has ever looked on my screen

Samsung mini led or LG OLED?

>>714036258
This board called the latest generation of VR headsets "a monitor strapped to your face" for a solid five years, completely discounting the impact of binocular depth perception and head tracking

>>714036229
It's more involved than that, but in it's most distilled form, HDR images are basically just images that can get brighter and can get more vibrant, if needed, while still maintaining enough detail in the darker portions to avoid banding.

HDR is a finnicky fukken mess that relies on the user turning the knobs on their OS and calibrating their HDR monitor and hoping the developers themselves properly implemented HDR on their side (which not all do, and some botch it)
it's a big fukken meme for gaming. if everything aligns then it can look pretty.

>>714030075
>want to play a game in hdr
>win+alt+B
>play game
>win+alt+B when im done
wow that was hard

>>714030159
i bought and returned/rma'd quite a few, wait, they are all dogshit atm

>>714031609
>MicroLED of high quality
Anon, I....

>>714030159
I've used my aw3425dw for nearly 4 years now and I have no burnin and that's with heavy browser usage. Just make the taskbar auto hide until you mouse over the bottom and it's fine

>>714036401
it's so frustrating. VR is my bread and butter. it's my lifeblood. I spent 3 hrs straight earlier today pewing lasers at droids across maps from PS2 star wars games i used to play, trying to get enough points to play as a hero. it was bliss

Its very game specific, and ontop of that specific in how windows handles it. I swear sometimes it works fine, other times like Dead Space remake I need to have HDR off in windows, launch game, and then use the keyboard shortcut to turn HDR on and it works. If I launch the game with HDR On, and On in game, its washed out.

Its why console HDR is always better, shit just fucking works and its 90% on Windows and 10% on some developers fucking up the PC version like Horizon Forbidden West

>>714029908 (OP)
its amazing for porn

oh thats not what you asked...

When HDR works properly it's amazing. But only on oled.

>>714036401
>>714036991
Just to be on topic going from my HDR tv to my quest is sadness

>>714029908 (OP)
Most display stuff is a meme
Your vision adjusts to the image you're looking at so it basically all looks the same
Whether or not the sun is currently shining while you're playing has more impact than any amount of display memes

>>714029908 (OP)
it's a big faggotry that's what it is, devs don't need to do even proper fucking brightness anymore they just rely on this shit and what you end up are WASHED OUT FUCKING GARBAGE games in SDR, RDR2 is a good example, thank fuck reshade can add fake HDR so I don't have to fuck around with this

>modern brightness slider is a 400$ paywall

>>714037545
>400$

>>714037545
>>714037441
>>714037298
Just say you've never used it

>>714037839
I've used it, I have HDR 4k TV, and fuck you for suggesting otherwise.

>>714031338
I still have a plasma tv in my basement that's been on and running almost daily since 2014 and still has no burn in no idea how.

>>714029908 (OP)
You can't polish poop

with nvidia do you have to install the gay nvidia app to use HDR in games

>>714037839
I have, I have a 4k OLED HDR tv sitting right next to normal-ass computer monitor and there's 0 noticeable difference in 99% of situations

Why are trannies trying to pretend HDR is a bad thing?

>>714038415
Either lying or too retarded to set HDR up correctly. Probably has brightness capped at 400nits.

>>714038485
Most people probably don't even know what HDR actually is, and marketers do a terrible job at explaining it.

are there any 1440p 27" 144hz oled hdr monitors?

>>714036120
miniled is shit compared to oled

>>714041812
ask google

>>714041812
There's certainly a bunch of 1440p 27" OLEDs, but they're all going to be 240hz and above since it's very trivial to achieve those refresh rates with OLED technology. Hell, the only reason it isn't faster is because of bandwidth limitations of the HDMI/DP cables.

>>714041905
OLED has better black levels and response times, but even high end panels ABL the fuck out of HDR content. The best MiniLEDs completely cream OLEDs in HDR performance, all without fear of burn-in (which they still very much do).

>>714030159
>leave browser open once
>monitor ruined
don't bother

>>714030009
I've been playing my QD OLED on SDR. Should I not? I figured most games didn't support HDR

>>714029908 (OP)
I can see the HDR image just fine on my SDR monitor

my friend has HDR on and all of his screenshots are flashbangs

>>714030159
IPS glow is worse and burn in doesn't even get that bad even after 5 years

HDR absolutely makes a difference for games it's just that most monitors don't actually support it correctly

>>714029908 (OP)
Funny, because HDR in my experience has always made games look the right example.

>>714039379
That's not even the save hdr though

It is for games designed with HDR in mind first like Monster Hunter Worlds.

>>714043024
>but even high end panels ABL the fuck out of HDR content.

The new Tandem WOLEDs hit 400 nits with 100% white which was always a dumb metric anyway but even that isn't an issue anymore.

>>714043024
Hmm

>>714044475
>LG TV
It's basically an AD cabinet you have to pay for.

>>714044475
That guy probably thinks brightness is what makes HDR looks good which so many retards do. People forget it's high dynamic RANGE. A DisplayHDR 1400 monitor doesn't look better than a DisplayHDR True Black 400 monitor unless you're in a really bright room.

>>714044853
Sorry but blooming still sucks.

>>714044901
>UM ACKTCHYUALLY IT'S NOT THE BRIGHTNESS, BUT HOW MUCH THE BRIGHTNESS CAN VARY
Kill yourself dude

>>714044973
Why because I'm right? People like you don't even understand what HDR is. Protip: you aren't noticing specular highlights above 1000 nits anyway.

>>714044853
>he doesn't have pihole/adguard home set up

I've never seen an ad or bothered with the shitty webOS. Meanwhile ColorControl gives me so much control over my monitor without having to go through shitty menus with a goddamn clit button every monitor has to have now.

>>714030412
>>714030615
>>714043024
>OLED can't do HDR properly you need a miniL---ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>THE BLACK LEVELS ON MY MINI LED ARE JUST AS GOOD AS OLED BRO I PROMISE YOU CANT EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE PLEASE I SWEAR PLEAAAAASE!!!!!!!

>>714029908 (OP)
all is secondary to gameplay. if that's not good, there's no point in anything else.

>>714030159
I've had the first gen QD-OLED Alienware since launch, so almost 4 years, and I can see some burn-in in static solid colour backgrounds but not in games and videos or when using it normally. I never took any special care and used my display the same way I used any other. I've used max brightness in SDR and HDR modes.
That said, OLED is so fucking good I'm not going back to LCD, burn-in or no burn-in. Even a burnt-in OLED is far less noticeable than IPS bleed and VA smearing.

at 34 years of age i transitioned from a poorfag to a richfag so i've been diving deep into oled and high response time and HDR etc etc and i gotta tell you homies i can tell the difference but i also don't care. looking back i had more fun playing ff7 in my one bed room apartment on a shitty LCD tv i got out of the literal dumpster.

>>714045261
This.
I prefer lower full screen brightness over blooming which happens even if you have 1500 dimming zones. Peak brightness is hardly different between OLED and miniLED.

>>714045363
>Even a burnt-in OLED is far less noticeable than IPS bleed and VA smearing.
This and based. I have zero burn in on my AW2725DF so far, as I would expect since I've only had it a year and I take very good care of it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, LCD comes with backlight bleed, glow, and shit contrast ratio "burned in" straight from the factory. Plus LCD layers are just as prone to degradation as OLED pixels, if not moreso. Maybe that wasn't the case with older LCD screens but manufacturing quality has gone way down. Just look at the RTINGS longevity tests, the brightness and heat from miniLED backlights just completely rape LCD layers and introduce yet another point of failure.

>>714029908 (OP)
My android has HDR and after noticing it you cannot go back to regular screens.

why can't they just make a monitor that doesn't have any drawbacks and just works

>>714044973
You know we could have a conversation about HDR without turning into a pissing match all the time

>>714029908 (OP)
It is a huge deal but getting it to work properly is nearly impossible. implementation of it varies from game to game, monitor to monitor, user to user.
Most people who are against HDR haven't seen it work properly in games with hardware that can actually do it.

>

>>714045583
I'd say wait for microLED but who knows how long until that's affordable, plus as of right now it has shit pixel density as well as relies on sticking modules together where there's a very visible line between the sections. It will probably have some other unforeseen drawbacks too

>>714031102
Nothing reshade can't fix.
Also what game

>>714045668
>run windows HDR calibration tool
>set whitepoint to calibrated max nit level in ingame HDR settings and/or use RTX HDR
>????
>profit
Shit just werks

>>714029908 (OP)

>>714038195
No, you dont, even with rtx hdr you don't need the app

>>714029908 (OP)
Yes. HDR is like an extra dimension for colors. Now instead of just RGB combinations, each color can display a different brightness too. Its much closer to real life.

>>714030876
At least OLED fixed things somewhat

>>714045801
nta but it's one of the 30 trails games

>>714044901
>>714045165
Yeah if the blacks are shit, its shit, no controversy there. But brightness absolutely atters. A 60w bulb is like 10k-20k nits and you need that to display it realistically. Can you have a small enough image frame in a pitch black room so your eyes adjust and the requirement isn't so high? sure. But if I'm just in an interior lit room at night, not a "bright room" like windows in the daylight, the tv still has to hit 10k on a portion of the screen for an image to be believable, and that's just a modest lightbulb, and that's just artificial lighting. If you want to make sunlight look completely realistic the tvs are going to injure people. So really they just need to be as bright as possible while safe to look at.

>>714030159
Just set your monitor to turn off after a few minutes and you'll be fine and remember to turn it off when you're not using it.
t. 2 years active gaming use with no burn-in

>>714046247
Except that's retarded. They even stopped using Dolby's Pulsar monitor that could hit 4000 nits because it was just stupidly bright.

>>714046394
what if i spend several hours a day browsing the web and video editing in the same program so tha UI and taksbar are static

>>714029908 (OP)
It's a meme.
Plasma's had HDR level contrast 20 years ago and you idiots didn't even notice it.

>>714043939
Conversely, some of the new VA miniLEDs look absolutely gorgeous and can put up a good fight with OLED even in low APL scenes.
AOC Q27G40XMN on the left, Alienware AW2725DF on the right.

>>714046692
>HDR is just contrast

ok retard

For me it's AW3423DWF

>>714046516
depends, thats a reference monitor for colorists in a dark room that look at frame content for long periods of time. They make 10k nit tvs for outdoor use and that's not enough in that environment.

>>714046798
not that anon but that's a completely different sentence, you can tell because you typed different green words that carry a different meaning

>>714030009
This and FPS. 120+ fps 1080p HDR > 30 fps 4k SDR. Also the more Local Dimming zones the better.

I originally bought my monitor for HDR movies, but then I found out you can force HDR into some games. I bought the same monitor as >>714030834 but refurbished. Looks better than the curved piece of shit Samsung I bought 7 years ago.

>>714030789
It's probably the jeet developers. Lower contrast to save on gpu usage, instead of putting in real effort to optimize.

>>714046692
Because there was no content mastered for that contrast. Older movies look the exact same on a good hdr display because it doesn't have the data to display it

>>714047203
Older movies are shot on film which is naturally HDR. Don't be stupid.

>>714029908 (OP)
>is HDR really that big a deal for gaming?
Yes, you actually get way more colors and tones with HDR. For example look at this video, right at the beginning there's a pink sign with white letters. If you're not using a proper HDR display you'll only see the white, and the same goes for the reflections and text.

I took this screenshot on my HDR monitor and then converted it to SDR. Even then, a lot of the color and visual effects get lost since SDR just can't hold as much data as HDR. But still I think it's one of the best ways to show how much of a difference HDR can make.

Anyone saying that it only affects saturation and/or contrast is either extremely ignorant on the topic or is just trolling.

https://youtu.be/SiryvrStb8E?si=TBLqqx45zdPKi75b

>>714029908 (OP)
HDR is a fucking meme technology. Oh let's just make this thing that takes hours to configure and reading all these guides only to make your screen only work a very specific range of ambient lighting. LET'S JUST IGNORE THAT THING CALLED THE SUN THAT CONSTANTLY CHANGES LIGHTING IN YOUR ROOM
10-bit SDR would've been better.
Also, pure blacks on OLEDs are also a meme because the pixel response time when they have to change to a slight gray is fucking gigantic and you get a blurfest.

>>714047025
Those TVs aren't meant to be viewed at normal distances. They're for DJ light shows are some shit. The point is, no one is going to use a TV that bright normally unless you're one of those retards that likes to stare directly into a solar eclipse.

>>714043135
Check what you play on here
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/
>>714047246
Go watch some old dvd and see it you faggot

>>714047265
This whole post is just completely wrong on every single "point", you should feel bad. I won't even waste my time addressing them.

>>714047286
DVDs don't support HDR. Every old movie shot on film just needs an HDR transfer, which they've been doing for 10 years now.

>>714047203
Yeah this. I'll watch a clip of an old movie in "HDR" and it'll look exactly the same because it's just a tone map. But the same video in SDR format with RTX HDR on breathes new life and looks great.

>>714047332
Exactly. The older releases didn't have that so it was the exact same as any other tv back then

>>714047327
Good, I'm sick and tired of hearing from HDR from people that just watch youtubers about it instead of using their fucking eyes. Just like how it took you fuckers a month to notice the Switch 2 had a shit screen because that's how long it took hwunboxed to make a video about it.

>>714047396
Why would you buy a new monitor to play DVDs? You would stream the HDR version on Netflix or download the Ultra HD bluray on bit torrent.

>>714047458
Why are you changing the topic? Your post said nobody cared about the dynamic range back when plasmas released.

>>714047246
>Older movies are shot on film which is naturally HDR. Don't be stupid.

Look I don't know much about the chain. Aside from grain on highlights film probably is HDR. They probably scanned the film with high color depth. But when it comes time to master it in HDR they feed you dog shit. It's probably just the SDR video for the bluray and 4k releases but tone mapped. That's exactly what it looks like.

>>714029908 (OP)
HDR's fantastic, yes. It's a bitch to get working correctly but all your games look a ton better

>>714047538
Every film ever shot is HDR, even black and white ones. You can even use auto-HDR to make SDR films into HDR.
There's no excuse for buying an SDR monitor in 2025.

>Everyone say 165 fps is good
>Try it
>It's great
>Think about trying the other stuff
>4k
>a meme
>HDR
>A meme
>300+ hz monitor
>A meme
>It turns out almost every single new monitor technology is not nearly a big of deal when you are just playing video games, even if some is incrementally better like OLED

Tards chasing tech and getting left in the dust by old hardware like a switch.

>>714047612
>Plasma's had HDR level contrast 20 years ago and you idiots didn't even notice it.
We were talking about what people thought 20 years ago retard
Is this some AI bot poster?

>>714047398
>the same tendie tards reeing about people shitting on the slow as fuck switch 2 screen are the same tards spreading blatant misinfo about OLED pixel response times
Explains a lot.

>>714047543
The only people who buy UHD Blurays these days are videophile boomers. Every time they skimp on a UHD release the boomers on Steve Hoffman's forums send angry letters and leave angry reviews.

>>714047746
Plasma was not HDR. It lacked the color depth, color gamut and max brightness.

>>714047271
If you're speculating that a 4k nit tv is too bright for a room with the light on I'm not impressed. Also are talking about highlights or a daylit scene where everything is bright? There's too many vairables. It's either retarded or not depending on context with too many variable that are too boring to discuss with you.

>>714031102
Based snd Agnespilled

>>714047663
It's cool bro, you just hit your genetic limit. Some of us have superior eyes and brains. I'm here wishing I waited a few months to get a 500hz OLED instead of 360hz, but oh well.

>>714047918
I know this feel. I got a 240hz OLED. Now that I see how much better 240hz is than 120hz, I wish I would have got one of the 480hz models.

>>714047827
I don't need to speculate. People that have seen the Pulsar in person have said as such.

HDR isn't even bright enough to matter. If a nuke goes off in a movie I want it to blind me for 5 mins

>>714047981
Did they say that a few pixels displaying street lamps at 4k nits was too bright? A sunny white beach taking the whole screen? Dark room? Sunny room? Shut the fuck up You don't know shit. I'll just ask an LLM

>>714047956
It is true that there's a high degree of diminishing returns, but I definitely noticed the jump from 240hz TN to 360hz OLED. One of my favorite things about it is I don't even need VRR at 360hz because there's very little tearing even without sync (regardless of source frame rate). I bet it's even better at 500hz.

>>714030159
https://us.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-271QRX-QD-OLED

I bought this monitor coming from a top of the line IPS monitor and I can't believe I waited so long. It pisses me off actually. If only I knew how awesome OD OLED was.

Be aware you will want to do a firmware update on this thing.

Outside of that it's amazing.

I use it for 8 hours a day for work and 20 hours a week gaming. No burn in. Had it for a year or so?

If you get the monitor from Micro center you can get a warranty that will just refund you if anything goes wrong, I got a 3 year warranty.

>>714029908 (OP)
hdr is a meme I have a 4k oled and it almost always looks like shit

>>714048189
Welcome, brother.

>>714029908 (OP)
My SDR screen looks better on the left pic even tho it says HDR? Weird. Almost like...

>>714048159
Whatever Panasonic's demo was but at only 2 mins it doesn't look good for it does it

>>714045261
>salt sprinkled on black cloth vs my ancestors live up there

>>714048189
I remember IPS glow with more repulsion than any problem shitty TN panels had

>>714048298
Ill check it out thanks for being specific. I can even see the viewing conditions this guy hated it in

>>714047918
It's really cool beacuse I can do basic math and know 165 to 360 is just 3 ms, and to 500 ms from 360 is .7 ms, which I'm smart enough not to waste money on.

>>714029908 (OP)
>WHOA LOOK AT THIS HDR COMPARISON FROM YOUR SDR SCREEN
It's a total meme for games, even for movies it's a meme 90% of the time, which is something I guess

>>714048385
Yeah IPS bleed is so fucking awful. I just took this picture. There are two monitors in this photo, both displaying an image of solid black.

>>714048189
Buy an ad shill

>>714029908 (OP)
how come my monitor is sdr but this image makes hdr look better?

>>714048675
When I asked you faggots for a recommendation you were useless so I'm going to break the trend.

>>714048675
>anon asks for a monitor
>anon gives anon a monitor
>SHILL! SHILL!!!!
i hate you fucking retards

>>714030159
It will 100% burn in. If you can't deal with that then don't buy
Mini-led arguably better anyways, cheaper too

>>714030248
lol CRT's were shit. I lived through that entire era, this is nostalgia goggles from a zoomer.

>>714048905
This.

t. 40 year old

Not getting oled until there's a 27" 4k 144hz one for under $500

Only miniled fills all those conditions, and I'm not sure why you'd get anything else

>>714048905
No

>>714048905
but bro, true blacks
just ignore the bloom and scanlines, and it's totally clear man

I just got my Samsung Odyssey G7 last year and a Sony Bravia X85J the year before that. I'm not getting worthwhile HDR any time soon.

>>714048968
Can you link me a miniled? Everyone talks about them I've NEVER seen one for sale anywhere. I'm beginning to think it's a meme

>>714049116
XV273K V3bmiiprx
Get a refurbished one on ebay for under $300. I picked mine up for $200.
I've used a decent number of monitors both oled and not, and I can't think of a better one for under $1000. Only criticism is that the settings buttons are ass.

>>714049026
Imagine the uproar if these faggots had to degauss their monitor once in awhile through out the day. You know they wouldn't and they would bitch about wavy blurry screens

>>714049319
That's an IPS monitor. See this is what I'm talking about I think MiniLED is a meme, it doesn't actually exist, and you are all having a laugh at me

>>714029908 (OP)
Yes, it's a big deal. Way better than Ray Tracing. You *NEED* a proper monitor/TV for it though. It just doesn't work otherwise, you get a washed out image instead of "pop" and "depth". OLED panels is the king of this, and even if they're not as bright as other monitors (Like the LG95 series), they look amazing as long as the sun is not blaring onto them. The only other option is MiniLED, and you can find a good list here: displayninja.com/mini-led-monitor-list/ SORT BY "local dimming zones". Other options, like edge-lit LED or stuff with just a fed hundred zones just sucks.

>>714044901
It's both. It's why a regular outdoor panel isn't suddenly an HDR panel (and why those gay faggot """HDR""" panels with atrocious "global dimming" were a fucking scam and a half), but also why an OLED with poor highlight performance might as well not be an HDR panel at all.

>>714049495
What do you think miniLed is?
Genuinely asking.

>>714048905
CRTs literally made you blind, anyone that had a job staring at them as a job ended up being nearsighted with ever increasing prescription glasses.

>>714049717
Sitting close to any monitor or reading for a long time will make you near-sighted. The number of people being near-sighted is growing every year and it didn't slow down when we switched off CRTs

>>714049717
that said, if you want better graphics in your games get some prescription glasses suited to your eyes.

>>714049889
For the last 15 years liberals have been wearing them as a costume piece to deceive people into thinking they are smart.

>>714036258
>>714043302
>>714048250
>>714048684
Because it's not an HDR image. It's an SDR image that attempts to illustrate what you'd see if you had an SDR and an HDR image next to each other.

>>714050015
That still doesn't change how there's more and more people needing glasses for being near-sighted every year. Just google myopia rates or something because you're not going to listen to me

>>714050015
Everyone knows the thicker the frames the smarter you are, dummy.

>>714050114
I'm not going to listen to you because I remember CRTs and how destructive they were for your vision. They aren't crisp visuals, they vibrate.

>>714049592
I thought it was like each pixel is it's own little led. I dunno I'm retarded but if Miniled is just IPS, MiniLED fanbois are braindead

>>714048482
Again, it's cool if you have inferior genetics. Just don't flaunt it with disgusting, pitiful cope. No one wants to see that shit.

CRTs also emit a high pitched tone that is like having tinnitus.

>>714048896
and mini LED bulbs will 100% burn out, but long before that the layers will get warped from heat and light. Why don't OLED FUD spreaders ever mention this?
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results

>>714050214
So how do you explain this fag. It's growing at a steady rate because zoomies spend 20 hours a day on fortnite

>>714050372
heh turning on a CRT sounds like when they charge their protonpacks in ghost busters.

when i bought my last monitor i was happy to finally have HDR option, but i just don't see any difference with it, this shit was so disappointing
i don't know if it's just shitty monitor or what

>>714050310
mini LED is a backlight technology, retardo. It goes behind the LCD layer (IPS/VA)

>>714050547
I don't fucking care dude, blame it on jeets that dug up the CRTs we threw away 30 years ago from a landfill

>>714050547
Blue light

>>714050650
Oh okay so that just confirms that MiniLED is trash. Good to know

>>714050675
It confirms you have a double digit IQ.

QLED is the future, cheaper to manufacture and outperforms nearly everything else.

>>714050372
Grow up

>>714050310
Crash course for you:
IPS displays are identical to OLED. It's not like OLED magically has more colors. The main difference between both is the lighting. The amount of lighting affects color quality; too little and whites look washed out, too much and blacks look bright.

OLED monitors use organic diodes that emit light themselves. What this means is that OLED doesn't require a backlight at all, the pixels themselves are the backlight. It's also why you can get true blacks in OLED; to display black, they just shut off the pixel and backlight itself, making it no different than a monitor that's just off. HDR uses the same principle.

With IPS, it's more complicated. They need a backlight to function. A majority of IPS monitors use something called CCFL; there's a giant light bulb behind the monitor that's diffused by a liquid crystal layer. This has a lot of issues; it means that you can't get "true black" or HDR because you can't turn off the backlight on one pixel without turning all them off which also turns off the monitor (like pressing the backlight button on a GBA SP).

MiniLED and MicroLED attempt to solve this. Instead of one big backlight like CCFL, there are several hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands (depending on your monitor) of smaller lights (LEDs) that can be adjusted or turned off independently. Once you get enough of these (counted as "dimming zones") then you completely solve the problem and it functions identically to OLED.

>>714029908 (OP)
whats the point of a comparison picture if anyone on an SDR screen would see the same thi-
oh, OP is being deliberately retarded to pretend to have a point.

HDR itself is sort of a meme, since you really need to watch in a darkened room for the benefits, but the enhanced color palette isn't. Standard SDR displays just can't replicate certain hues of red at all.

>>714050372
You have to be 18 to post here

>>714030075
>Win+Alt+B is too hard from AMDlet

How is there still not a display technology that doesn't have any major issues?
Why is it always some huge compromise?

>>714050913
If you want to pretend that CRTs are great it is rude of me to take that from you.

>>714051035
I'm in my 40's, faggot.

>>714051173
Then you can't hear it so who cares

>>714051071
All specialization tech that tries to bring out the most of what they've discovered, at the cost of something else.
Which fucking bites because I want a no-bullshit lightgun solution that isn't a limited frames-per-second camera or IR sensors awkwardly tied to the sides of a screen.

>>714029908 (OP)
I have a OLED monitor and don't know how to setup HDR. Everything just looks washed out if I turn it on.

Why would I want to have a bright as fuck monitor when max brightness on a normal monitor already fucks up my eyes?

>>714051249
I developed tinnitus later in life, so I recognized the sound.

Is there a decent way for me to stream games to my living room TV with HDR yet

>>714050984
I really appreciate this post dude thanks

>>714051071
low consumer standards and an industry without passion or innovation.
most people buy the shittiest low end TV available in the size they want and act like it's great because it's 4K and """HDR""" and it's good enough for you to pretend to look at while you play something on netflix and look at something else the entire time.

>>714050606
You have to turn on the HDR settings for windows and have HDR content to view with a viewer that can handle HDR content.

>>714051329
Turn the room lights on and a it'll stop fucking your eyes. Get a dimmer switch and adjust it to your preferences.

>>714051387
Size actually makes a bigger difference than 4k and HDR. Projectors would be more popular if consumers were smart enough to do basic light control.

>>714050984
I'm not sure but I thinks it's an OLED problem where OLEDs can't get bright enough. So they add a white LED to the side of the RGB LEDs because they can't put them behind like you would with MiniLED and MicroLED. Which makes the colors look washed out.

>>714050310
>I thought it was like each pixel is it's own little led
You're thinking of MicroLED, which, while it exists, is not commercially viable on a mass scale and probably won't ever be.
MiniLED is a regular LCD panel but with discrete "zones" of backlight LEDs which can be controlled individually. MiniLED can get VERY bright, but bright backlit zones with dark areas can still experience backlight bleed, or "blooming".
This is in contrast to OLED, MicroLED, and QDEL, which do not have a backlight and instead emit light from the pixels directly.

>>714052697
This makes sense

>>714052697
>but bright backlit zones with dark areas can still experience backlight bleed, or "blooming".
No, it depends entirely on the monitor.
That's the issue with MiniLED, there's no standardization. A shitty miniLed monitor is barely different from a regular IPS, while a good miniLed will be on-par with a good OLED.
And it's impossible to tell if it's good off specs alone, because even if you have a lot of dimming zones, the software control them might suck, or the separation might bleed, etc.

>>714029908 (OP)
And yet HDR always looks like the one on the right on my screen, while SDR looks like the one on the left.

>>714053528
skill issue. you didn't set up your HDR correctly

>>714030159
AOC Q27G40XMN looks very promising and it's cheap, the monitor stand is shit though.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g40xmn

>>714029908 (OP)
Yes, if your display can do it properly
No, if you are a poorfag or fell for the HDR400 meme

>>714053762
Wait for the gz model wirh 240hz and the proper srand

But overall that monitor seems slower than the g3xmn

>>714043135
What is your display?
Ever since I got my QD I have been slapping special K's hdr onto anything I can

>>714030615
Do you even know what hdr is?

Look up hdtvtest review of mafmax fury road in hdr. The movie with the best hdr implementation to this day. The scenes on average hover around 100 nits only tiny specular highlights reach 600 plus nits with the lightning in the sandstorm being the brightest shit in the entire film at over 1200 nits.

Come back when youve educated yourself. Hdr isnt just about maxing the brightness at all times. The lightning storm flashing is mega aids to watch at night.

>>714047161
>lower contrast to save on gpu usage
Contrast has no effect on your gpu neither does hdr

>>714029908 (OP)
Idk I turn it off when I can because it’s annoying. The only times I don’t turn it off are when they do it in such a way that I don’t notice it.

>>714053972
Mpg271qrx

>>714054553
>HDR400
God fucking damn it I wish they would stop peddling this garbage.
Your monitor only peaks at 400 nits of brightness, but will boost up to 2% of the screen to 1000 nits.
Color gamut actually seems quite good tho
I would turn HDR on, but just keep in mind it will likely have trouble making anything truly pop except for like candles and shit.
Probably still worth turning on for the wider color gamut.
Make sure to calibrate it with window's hdr tool before you start playing stuff.

>>714029908 (OP)
Yes when implemented right and when you have capable monitor.

>>714054116
>a dusty, dim sandstorm scene represents every HDR usecase

Why is HDR so shit on PC?
Every time I try to use it it just looks terrible?

I have a fucking OLED and it still looks bad

>>714059175
Looks bad how? Is it super washed out?
What monitor do you have?
Ideally HDR enabled on OS + HDR enabled on monitor should look nearly identical to SDR.

>>714029908 (OP)
It's a meme because most TVs don't have enough max nits to display the difference in brightness between darkest and brightest. TVs with like 200 nits get "certified" when it should be at least 1000

>>714031315
I have no fucking clue anymore since there are now 3 different definitions of HDR
1. The photography definition where you combine images at different exposure levels so no element is too washed out or dark
2. The software implementation Valve did for The Lost Coast where they do some level clamping
3. The newer monitor feature that I have no idea what it does since I can't see a difference on my TV even though I turned on HDR mode in the TV settings and used a HDR input source

>>714049026
>but bro, true blacks
CRTs did not have true blacks. They would start glowing as soon as you turned them on

>>714048189
careful guys this is a shillbot

>>714053762
>VA
imagine suggesting this SMEARING PIECE OF GARBAGE!