>mass layoffs are happening at Xbox on Wednesday
>multiple studios are being shut down including; Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
>Double Fine's game The Keeper is already finished and will still release
>Perfect Dark, which The Initiative is working on, will be finished by Crystal Dynamics
>Ninja Theory's Project Mara will be cancelled
>at least 25% (5000 people) of Xbox's game developers will be laid off
>the layoffs are happening because small studios are not making any impact on Game Pass subscriber figures so Microsoft has decided to only focus on their major video game franchaises like Call of Duty and Elder Scrolls

Two more weeks.

>>714106485 (OP)
>Double Fine
ah, shit

>Double Fine
Fucked if true

>>714106485 (OP)
how does this guy look more disgusting every time he updates his picture

>>714106485 (OP)
NOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE WORKING CLASS KARL MARX SAVE ME

I did this

>>714106485 (OP)
Man what the fuck is Xbox even doing?

>>714106485 (OP)
Xwhat?

>>714106706
Because when you're ugly and you age, it usually gets worse.

>>714106485 (OP)
Everyone knows this, why is this guy relevant again?

I hope they start with the blacks and the women; but DEIsoft will probably fire only whites instead

I was wondering what Double Fine was up to since Psychonauts 2.

>>714106485 (OP)
>billion dollar corporation buys a ton of smaller studios
>shuts them all down
I hate the video game industry so much.

Poor Double Fine, they don’t deserve this

>>714106485 (OP)
>>at least 25% (5000 people) of Xbox's game developers will be laid off
ok that's insane.

>>714106882
>not my favorite grifters!

>>714106872
But the line must go up!

RIP to Double Fine if true

>>714106485 (OP)
They should be forced to give up the ips of all the companies they shut down.

>>714106812
Trying to pivot into a Steam/Epic Game store model, except they fuck up at every level

Imagine peaking on your first console.

All this because they did series S...

ford v. dodge strikes again

>>714106485 (OP)
>Psychonauts 2 loses to FUCK THE OSCAR's game
>next game is a boring lighthouse game instead of anything interesting
>gets shut down

>>714106872
Omg this, so much this. I'm sure its even more frustrating when you're working for one of the biggest companies in the world. Layoffs on this scale are always ridiculous and cruel but even more insane given how much money they have and how much they were willing to sling on acquisitions. They have the money to keep them, no excuse.

>>714106485 (OP)
>>multiple studios are being shut down including; Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
Who?

>>714106872
>>billion dollar corporation
More than 3 trillions actually kek.

>>714106986
I still can't believe people became xbox fans at all

Pretty sure everyone was saying this would happen after Microsoft bought shitloads of studios.

That's what you get for sticking a knife in the back of the core male gaming audience. That's what you get

>>714106841
Thats the obvious thing to cut which is precisely why they won't do it.

Are there any publishers that DOESN'T just fire everyone when 'they are not making enough profit'?

>>714106485 (OP)
>Double Fine
>Ninja Theory

Good if true I STILL remember the PUPPETS, schafer!

>>714107040
>Psychonauts 2 loses to FUCK THE OSCAR's game
it lost to a better game, yeah. psychonauts 2 was faggot shit

>>714107085
xbox 360 was just massively superior to the shitshow that was the PS3

>>714106485 (OP)
good, time to get a real job.

>Put a bunch of new games on game pass
>Nobody buys them they just play them on game pass via a free trial or pay for one month before unsubbing
>"WTF why is nobody buying these games close these studios"
I'm surprised they're still putting new games on game pass.

>>714107029
>it's because of that casd guys!!!

>>714106485 (OP)
>so Microsoft has decided to only focus on their major video game franchaises like Call of Duty and Elder Scrolls
Full retard approach. If you play only a few AAA titles per year why would you ever purchase Game Pass?

>>714107029
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>714106812
>>714106872
Microsoft has done this since the 90s they are famous for buying up competition just to kill it off.

it's ok, the 4 remaining xbots on twitter will still proclaim that this is the cost of #WINNING and that Gamepass is still the future and sony ponies are forever jealous of them.

>>714106485 (OP)
>Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
sucks for Double Fine and they really don't deserve this but the other 3 are all expected. especially Ninja Theory. imagine staking that much on fucking Senua's Hell 2.

>>714106812
Xbox used to be a money losing side-project for Microsoft that could afford to lose a few billion each year just in case they ever hit it really big.
Then Xbox bought Activision for 68 billion dollars and MS decided that losses were no longer acceptable, when spending at this scale you're either profitable or you don't get to exist.
They looked at the numbers and saw that the entire old Xbox division was wildly unprofitable while the new Activision side was wildly profitable. Candy Crush alone makes more profit in a year than Xbox ever did. So they're shutting down the old Xbox in favor of just making Call of Duty and Diablo instead.

>>714107278
yep, it genuinely is
glad you're catching up

>>714106485 (OP)
How does obsidian get away with it again?

>>714107029
It sucks but that ruling made sense. Shareholders own a portion of the company, you're beholden to them when the company goes public

>>714107405
avowed apparently did well enough and microsoft is expecting outer worlds 2 to do well enough as well

>spend the last 5 years buying up half the games industry
>proceed to lay off 25% of your devs

>>714106485 (OP)
Must feel like shit being an xbox fan

>>714107506
MBAs are disastrously stupid people

>343 still going strong
CAN'T STOP
WONT STOP
[Spoiler]for the love of god they can't keep getting away with it

>>714107386
You didn't even get the cite right.

Another "producer" at Blizzard got laid off.

>>714107213
PS3 had Demon's Soul, Ranjeet

>>714107405
Because they're releasing games.

>>714107405
RPGs are a niche that's good for GamePass due to how long they are and Obsidian is always profitable despite everything.
Although if the new inXile game is good Obsidian might be next on the chopping block unless Outer Worlds 2 outperforms expectations.

>>714107595
how do we solve the MBA problem

>>714106485 (OP)
>Ninja Theory
The studio that made the
>hysterical woman cries really loud
-game?

>>714106485 (OP)
>5000 employees
>Can't produce a single good game.
?

>>714107283
They could've just exited the hardware & gamepass business right after getting those studios & became a publisher, would've saved a ton of money. Instead they're going to do everything within their power to maximize their losses making retarded decisions that will obviously fail then ultimately end up becoming just a publisher anyway.

>>714107194
Me personally it was a great game but when they focused on the two old fags and not raz and lilys relationship, it kinda ruined it for me.

>>714106485 (OP)
>mass layoffs is true
>rest is made up shit

>>714107695
What was she prodoocing?

>>714107695
F to that poor diversity hire

>>714106812
xbox nothing this is just what Microsoft always does, they buy studios and then close them, people seem to have forgotten that somehow but you're about to be fucking reminded

>>714107713
didn't change the historical fact the 360 dominated that gen. and then microsoft and mattrick to fucked it all up with the xbone

I just think this is karma for thirdie faggots unironically shilling xbox on /v/ because Playstation is too popular for their contrarian brains.

>>714107913
PS3 outsold the 360 and the Wii did as well

The world is bigger than north america, mutt

how much value in gaming has been destroyed solely by microsoft

>>714107918
I remember the wave of actual shills on this board for a few weeks after Microsoft bought all these studios + Activision.
Shit was so obvious it was almost unreal

>>714106485 (OP)
>>mass layoffs are happening at Xbox on Wednesday
>>multiple studios are being shut down including; Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
>>Double Fine's game The Keeper is already finished and will still release
>>Perfect Dark, which The Initiative is working on, will be finished by Crystal Dynamics
>>Ninja Theory's Project Mara will be cancelled
>>at least 25% (5000 people) of Xbox's game developers will be laid off
>>the layoffs are happening because small studios are not making any impact on Game Pass subscriber figures so Microsoft has decided to only focus on their major video game franchaises like Call of Duty and Elder Scrolls
You made these up. I just checked Jason Schreier's profile on Bluesky and not a single one of these claims was made by him. He only reported that a lot of layoffs were coming.

>>714108013
0. Nothing of value has been lost.

>>714107974
Please don't get so frustrated. You shouldn't get so heated over company wars.

>>714107974
wouldn't that make the ps3 the ranjeet console?

>>714108132
He only stated facts

>>714107695
If you have to do some blanket catch all "Hire me! :3" post you've already proven youre just a warm body do nothing. Anyone worth a shit would've been poached/had a new job the moment the murmurs started happening

>>714108175
Muttmerica imports more Indians than anybody else mate

>>714106485 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHA
EAT
SHIT
JEWS

>>714107974
That didn't happen until microsoft made the kinect & abandoned their core audience forever. 360 was absolutely dominating the ps3 until they gave up & the ps3 only became decent when it copied all the features of the xbox years after the fact.

>>714106812
Refusing to admit that GamePass was actually a bad idea and Microsoft Corporate doesn't care enough to intervene. Or alternatively they want an excuse to shut the Xbox division down so they are letting them crash outright.

>>714108375
What?
Jew?
Who?
The fuck you are talking about Jesse

>>714106618
100% a company that will resurface as a "Ex Company". But I bet Tim Schafer's life is ruined. He was so prepping to retire and watch his investment grow.

The "Gamepass is helping indies!" dream is dead, huh? lol
Damn shame.

>>714107695
LOL LEARN TO CODE WORTHLESS WHORE

>>714107298
The shills posted 24/7 how the acquisitions and game pass was the holy grail of gaming and would be nothing but INCREDIBLE for gamers and the industry. kek

RELEASE SOME FUCKING GAMES

THIS CAN'T BE THAT HARD NIGGA

>>714108175
NOOOO NOOOOOOOOOO

>>714106485 (OP)
>multiple studios are being shut down
Until that Studio is one I want to see shut down like Bethesda, I don't fucking care

>>714108551
They did. The problem is they all sucked.

>>714108445
You clearly lol worthless nepo trash removed from our industry

>>714106485 (OP)
Xbox and Sony losing to Nintendo is the most hilarious thing

>>714108598
Nigga i am a fucking neet
Only game i worked on was a match 3 game in Java script
It was fun

>>714106872
To be fair most of these small studios would have just died/scaled down on their own if they hadn't been bought.

>>714108709
oh then why are you desperately defending nepo trash from your goblin tunnel under the chabad building?

>>714108505
I get why Nintendo and Sony have fans. But I don't get Microsoft fans at all. They had one worthwhile franchise (Halo) they ran into the ground. Everything else has been undercooked and overhyped, not to mention their pitiful hardware. How the hell are they chugging along after years and years of embaressing failure?

>>714108476
I genuinely never understood this, they put literally everything behind a 1 dollar paywall, even on the best scenario how the fuck is GP suppossed to make them any money? Even sony understands this and only puts a couple of their heavy hitters on PS+

>>714108774
Some of them would've made decent games atleast

jesus, I forgot they were even making another perfect dark

>shut down the only studios that make good games
So they are just going to camp the IPs forever then?

>>714106812
being retarded, like usual

>>714107405
Obsidian actually ships games

>>714106485 (OP)
YES YES YES YES

I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT

>>714106485 (OP)
I don't understand why corporations pull this shit when it seems so obvious. Don't investors catch on to it? If anyone I'd expect they would be scrutinizing the companies they've invested in for fuckery in their reports.

>>714107574
guarantee that any xbox fans that were left immigrated to PC desu. Basically the PC "mustard race" that uses windows and not linux.

these fuckheads think they're so enlightened all because xbox isn't making exclusives. And.... that's pretty much the only "pro consumerism" that they really have as ammo

>>714108807
Not actual gamers, they want they kind of people that pay for the most expensive streaming services monthly just to watch one movies/series and forget about it since they are bad with money

>>at least 25% (5000 people) of Xbox's game developers will be laid off
lmfao if true
Incompetent fucking idiots making the industry way worse
This is the actual issue with gaming, not le woke

>>714106485 (OP)
Why don’t Jannies move this to /pol/?

>>714107663
>gets the idea
>muh citing
the duality of fags

Game pass basically killed the Xbox along with being unable to release a hit 1st party title. Honestly the upper management should be fired for how shit they are but that will never happen.

>>714109174
>This is the actual issue with gaming, not le woke
They're the same thoughbeit, Microsoft is one of the biggest pushers of DEI to the point they're STILL doing it after everyone else stopped

>>714108586
Kek, inferior copycats like Obsidian and Larian will shut down 3 times over before self-made original studios like Bethesda have to fire 1 person lmao

>>714109234
>can't understand a decision he can't even cite
>can't respond without resorting to homosexual references.
+1

>>714109491
i call em like i see em, faggot
go be a schreier somewhere else

>>714108807
im also starting to not get valve fans. All they really have to be a fan of is deep discounts and some esoteric linux support.

Like how the flying fuck can you be a fan of company who's barely done much after the 2000s?

>>714109174
They're laying off all of the woke incompetent people anon. This is a GOOD thing.
Sorry about your job though, you can cry about it on bsky once you get your pink slip.

Dont care, Gamepass still the best value im gaming

>>714109707
There's no telling what the criteria are,

>>714109707
Isn't MS's current CEO a pajeet? And besides, they are the only ones still pushing DEI shit, just don't look at the head of Halo Studios

>>714109292
>>714109707
The duality of misdiagnosing retards.

So they’re doing this to manipulate the numbers for the tax bureau

That’s illegal, should any government fucking care about the law over free tax abuse circuits

>>714106812
The stock locusts have taken complete control.

>>714109707
You have culture war brainrot

>>714109359
bethesda has fired a ton of people throughout its existence what are you on about

>>714106872
OY VEY LINE IS NOT GOING UP GOYIM
SHUT IT DOWN

>>714109658
I'm a fan for several reasons:
One: because I use Linux.
Two: the Steam platform is the best, hands down, in terms of features and prices (because you can get cheap keys on third party sites).
Three: My account is over two decades (21 years) old, and I own several hundreds of games, so I have a vested interest in the store continuing to do well and thrive.

That said, Valve isn't without their issues. I like their laissez faire attitude a lot but they're somehow extra tough on Japanese/anime hentai games and even stuff like Key to Home (which has no porn) and Dungeon Travelers. I think their double standards are bigoted and racist.
The same attitude applies to their games which means shit like Deadlock is just dead now because people decide what they want to work on and I'm guessing everyone wants to be involved in HL3.
Also I was there during the paid mods thing and that was an absolute clusterfuck; they should've started with free mods first and then implemented a system to support devs.

good riddance

>>714106485 (OP)
>axing ninja theory
based!

I'm an Obsidian fan. I was literally playing Avowed just a few hours ago.

There is no fucking way they are surviving their tenure at Microsoft for much longer without at least some severe layoffs, even though Grounded is apparently a golden goose (Or at least the first one was)

Microsoft is clearly playing this as coldly as possible and the industry is extremely volatile. It's a matter of when, not if.

Microsoft are way bigger kikes than EA at this point.

>>714106618
>>714106673
honestly surprised they lasted so long under Xbox's bullshit, desu

Double Fine hasn't had a massive hit since Psychonauts 2

THE PATRIARCHY DID THIS
SCREAM AGAINST THE LAYOFFS, SISTERS

>>714106812
Made halo woke and put a black woman in charge as their CEO
Get woke go broke xbox

>>714106706
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>714110379
I, uh... I don't think Double Fine has ever had a massive hit. I guess Brutal Legend, maybe? That probably cost more than it earned.

>>714106812
Outsourcing everything to India.

>>714109875
>they are hiring blacks and women because of their innate characteristics instead of their competency
>now everyone is being fired because they're incompetent
How is this a misdiagnosis?

>>714106485 (OP)
i love how xbox fanboys became a death cult. they're preaching cloud future, mobile, renting games. xbox fans exemplify the bitter broken up ex girlfriend.

>>714110516
>London-based
It only adds to the fucking comedy.

>>714110516
the divine comedy has arrived to this thread.

makes 6 figures to tweet out xbox posts

Tim shafer's pain is my sustenance.
Also I don't know how ninja theory HASNT been shutdown sooner considering what they've been up to since the ps4 days

>>714110550
Was that what happened to Pandemic, Westwood and Bullfrog, anon-kun?

Are you new to the industry and how the kikes operate in it?

Or have you just been so mindbroken by culture war slop that you forgot?

Outrage bait about muh gays and trannies and leftists and wokes might make for good shitposting material on /v/, but non-brainlet adults are speaking here, in this particular thread. You'll have plenty of opportunity to be a retard about this later, I promise you.

>>714110776
They stayed in business by putting all of their money into a custom scan/capture rig, and Microsoft wanted unlimited access to it since they couldn't buy Remedy and their rig.

>the entire Activision acquisition hub-bub around how Xbox would so obviously crush Playstation if they bought out COD
>Die anyway due to sheer incompetence
why didn't the FTC foresee this and prevent the buyout?

>>714110845
lol nu-/v/ would have absolutely just spammed pictures of some pink haired community manager to celebrate pandemic shutting down

Why can't Xbox make games that gamers want anymore?

>>714110845
based

>>714110845
>Comparing Pandemic, Westwood and Bullfrog to modern skin-walking studios like Obsidian, Double Fine, and Ninja Theory
I think all that estradiol might have fried your brain ma'am.

>>714111065
>Implying you wouldn't have done the "old good new bad" and skin-walking studios to Pandemic and Westwood as well.
The vidya industry hasn't changed.
Your shitposting meta has.

>>714108814
GP was built on the idea it will estabilish itself as the "Netflix of Gaming" which means it will be so desired you can not sell any gaming hardware without it. Just like how you can't sell any media playing device without Netflix. So Sony, Nintendo, Steam all would have been forced t adopt it and pay a cut to MS while their own stores would lose sales. So Game Pass was built to be give extreme value and operate on a loss for many years in the hope when it will become the definitive subscription they can jack up the price freely.
Now that it didn't happen - because other platforms resisted it and only makes sense for the Xbox userbase - they already made it a way worse deal than before, though it still worth it for Xbox users. Too bad it is unsustainable and the investors want their money now so the Xbox platform will die with it.

>>714110497
Brutal Legend was not a big hit, no. Wasn't a bomb by any means but it cost so much to make and market that there's a reason after that Double Fine only made small indie games like Costume Quest and Trenched.

>>714107085
I know it may not seem like it now but Halo was a huge deal at the time.

XBOX "Next Gen"
-Prebuilt PC
-Option to play as Xbox or PC mode
-24GB VRAM
-Somehow will cost $500
When you launch Steam, you don't pay the online toll pass for Xbox. When Microsoft builds this, it costs over a thousand dollars. The closest OEM prebuilt with 24GB VRAM cost $2000. So the master plan is to build $2000 XboxPC hybrids, then sell at $500, so that people can pirate games, play Steam games, and don't pay Xbox Live Gold sub. Third world believes this.

>>714110845
Pandemic fucked up their batman game and wow, they closed after.

>>714111217
i got 3 months of gamepass for 3 dollars and only played 3 games, one of which i bought on steam for $5 a couple months after that.
it doesn't appeal to me. i don't get how people are okay with subscriptions

>>714110845
Why are you bringing up studios that died due to EA's mismanagement and greed 20 years ago in a thread about Microsoft's hiring (and firing) practices today?
Westwood and Bullfrog died because they made niche as fuck games that didn't sell as well as EA wanted.
These studios are dying because they're making shitty games that didn't sell as well as Microsoft wanted.
Completely different studios making completely different kinds of games under completely different market conditions with completely different publishers.

>>714108486
It's too late for that
A lot of people learned to code during covid, and then AI improved productivity of experienced devs: we don't need more junior devs

>>714111407
They're dying because isn't viable you humongous welfare drm pass retard.

>>714106485 (OP)
Why The Initiative when they can just have them ran like Halo Studios currently, meaning having them lead development while a third party develops the games?

>>714111460
>Avowed would've sold gorillians if gamepass didn't exist
Damn, can you pass some of that medical grade copium you're huffing?
Let bad studios shut down.

btw Perfect Dark and Fable both are in dev hell. can gamepass pay these 8 years of development? well?

>>714109658
> some esoteric linux suppor
This is huge anon

>says nothing about Turn 10 despite them being named as one of the studios getting heavily hit
Fake

>>714106706
Suddenly realizing he looks like a dollar store discount moonmoon
who knows maybe he's a funny guy irl too lol

>>714111723
turn10 has historically made shitloads of money for xbox, but not anymore
i hope they all get shitcanned as punishment for the latest motorsport

>>714111391
As I said Game Pass is only really makes sense for Xbox users, or you could say console users where you are forced to use the built in store and bend the knee to the pricing of the platform owner.
This is why MS never discloses actual subscriber numbers, especially not the PC side. The main problem with GP IMO you need to blindly eat up what you get from it. Sure you get day 1 games but most of them are mediocre. And this is what kills it outside the ecosystem.

>>714110952
I didnt know that. Though I suspected they must've had something else going since theres no way the hellblade games could've turned a profit. And thats like the only thing they did for a whole decade.

Are the closing the studio making State of Decay 3? They've scamming these suits for almost a decade

>>714112072
Yeah, I believe there was a big internal push to make owned studios collaborate and having the capture rig would've benefitted more groups. Coalition handles UE5 implementation and optimize support for a bunch of other studios for example, that's why they aren't making any fucking games

>>714111856
The real question is will Microsoft keep them because of Forza Tech or will they gut them and put what remains in Playground games. The problem with Turn 10 is that they're no longer needed when Microsoft is no longer competing with Sony. Forza Motorsports only existed because of Grand Turismo, with Forza Horizon surpassing the main series, why bother making any new mainline games?

>>714112134
Most likely, I wonder is Rare getting hit with layoffs as well.

>>714106485 (OP)
its over

leading in to the July 4th weekend.... pretty sick of Microsoft to do that

>>714110845
Incredible how Microsoft could allocate a billion dollars (a fraction of their yearly revenue) to their game division and genuinely revitalize the entire industry by subsidizing AA-level studios into pumping out a nice amount of games over the years but instead they buy studios and then shut them down because they are not releasing guaranteed-profits slop and/or bog them down with internal procedures and corporate demands, all the while only investing in vidya because they really want to make profits despite already making fuck-hueg profits from their other businesses. Corporate greed can't comprehend a creative medium like vidya, just like how casuals can't comprehend that a corporation could suck without SJWs or jews at the helm.

>>714106485 (OP)
>Ninja Theory closing
Zero chance. Hellblade isn’t out on PS5 yet.

>>714106485 (OP)
>multiple studios are being shut down including; Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
>Double Fine's game The Keeper is already finished and will still release
>Perfect Dark, which The Initiative is working on, will be finished by Crystal Dynamics
>Ninja Theory's Project Mara will be cancelled
Going to need sources for all of this

>Buy hundreds of small studios
>Do nothing with them
>Fire everyone
You can see why people like this deserve that hundred million dollar bonus. It takes some real big brains for plays like this.

>>714112707

>>714107974
It doesn't matter if the PS3 outsold the 360 in the end, the 360 was ultimately the major console of the generation which is why Wii60 was something very common. It also got objectively better versions of games as a whole with very few exceptions compared to the PS3 and it took forever for the PS3 to get anything worth a damn at all. Literal years.

Yes, after Microsoft started delving into the Kinect and flushed their brand down the toilet in the last year or two the PS3 started to get a leg up on it, but it was absolutely the Wii60 generation for many people. The PS3 was an afterthought until around Uncharted 2's release.

>>714107283
180 dollars a year is cheaper than buying just 3-4 new releases a year, especially considering looking 80 dollar price tags.
I'd rather pay more and have my game on Steam, but game pass is still a good deal if you don't plan on replaying any games later... Even then, that game will probably be on sale somewhere by the time you want to play it again.

Why doesn't Microsoft just buy Sony or Nintendo? Genuinely curious- the acquisition might cost like 500 billion dollars but they will get an almost immediate return on their investment.

>>714112461
>The real question is will Microsoft keep them because of Forza Tech or will they gut them and put what remains in Playground games.
My guess is that they'll gut both teams and stuff them into "Forza Studios" or some shit. They might keep some people and the Playground name for non-racing, but I doubt it.

>>714113252
Thanks for the irrelevant screenshot anon

H-H-HOLD THE LINE XBOX NATION, EVERYTHINGS GOING TO BE FINE, PHIL DONO HAS IT ALL PLANNED OUT!

>>714113583
What happens to Fable?

>>714113634
This is hilarious because the screenshot was pretty relevant to a game like Hellblade and your response was the perfect snoyslave reply.

>>714106485 (OP)
Imagine being given infinite money and EVERY single dev makes the same politically correct shit. If anything, I'm glad Microsoft is doing this.

>>714106485 (OP)
Microsoft doesn't care about games anymore, they're going all in on AI. Same goes for Nvidia, they barely bother with their GPUs and drivers at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if we only see 1-2 more gaming focused GPU generations from them.

>>714113770
They're probably not going to outright close Playground until after Fable releases. Until then, they'll run a skeleton crew at T10.

>>714113823
Microsoft was the one to force them to do this. It became a company-wide mandate as of 2019.

>>714106706
legit thought he was wearing a kippah in the profile pic from a glance

>>714113886
Man the future is so fucking gay and lame

>>714113886
Microshit going all in on ai sounds amazing. No one else will kill as much aislop as they will.

>>714113823
This is the thing I don't get and it's pretty much the same for Ubisoft and even Sony to some extent. Why would you go all-in on this hyper-divisive female-skewing political shit. You couldn't hedge your bet at least?

It's a shame..

My Xbox Series X is a gem, letting me dive into Splinter Cell and F.E.A.R. with nostalgic glee.

Yet, my PS5 and Nintendo Switch steal the spotlight, despite my 150+ Xbox games waiting in the wings.

Halo and Gears ain’t hittin’ like they used to..

>>714106485 (OP)
>multiple studios are being shut down including; Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
>the layoffs are happening because small studios are not making any impact on Game Pass subscriber figures
how is this possible? you have 5000 ppl that are just wasting space, getting paid to do nothing. did they suddenly forget how to make vidya? is msft management at fault? were they pressured to make stuff they weren't comfortable with like snoy forcing their 1st party studios to make live service slop?

>>714115054
Yes, in 2019, Microsoft started forcing their developers to start making extremely woke video games, if they make an attractive female character, they must make her look less attractive and make her physically as strong as a male. They were trying to force this on third parties as well in 2024, but third parties weren't having it

>>714106706
The inside is leaking outside.

>>714108664
>nintendo killing physical and raising game prices
>sony making live service slop
>xbox is a disaster through and through
whoever wins, we lose

>>714107807
that's basically amdahl's law, adding more shit on the pile doesn't make it stink less, pajeetsoft should know better

>>714112693
based and redpilled

>>714106485 (OP)
>MS creates DEI policies where devs are asked to keep sexy women to a minimum
>Gotta appease the modern audience and trannies
>Game sales plummets
Wow, how could this happen?

>>714107085
Halo and gears are the reason the dudebro era existed at all. Sony competed with shit like haze and M.A.G. but it never worked out and then the dark times happened.

>>714106618
F's in the chat ;_;7

>“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and, in certain cases, have very discrete focus on doing deals and other things make being on Xbox hard as a team - that’s on us, not on anybody else..."
>"But we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way."
>"I see a lot of pundits out there that kinda want to go back to the time when we all had cartridges and discs and every new generation was a clean slate and you could switch the whole share. That’s just not the world that we are in today."
>"There’s no world where Starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s. That’s not gonna happen.”
Phil Spencer (CEO of Microsoft Xbox Gaming, 10+ years)

>>714114634
I was really giving some thought about getting a Series X/S at one time for the backwards compatible titles all the way to the original Xbox I have on hand and also having it as a dedicated emulation box

Are we ever gonna get a Conker's Bad Fur Day 2 bros?
Even though I own a series x it's like the only ip of theirs I care about

>>714113563
I don't think the Japanese government would allow it.

>>714106485 (OP)
dont worry guys the new fable will fix this

>>714106812
XBox has basically been a failure since Peter Moore got the boot (only time XBox really did anything). It was mismanaged but once they spent almost 70 billion to buy Activision, all eyes have been on them. Now their results actually matter and they have nothing to show for it. They're trimming the fat now to look more profitable but most likely the whole thing will be killed except MAYBE Activision due to the entire market declining and XBox never really being viable anyway

>>714116594
Is COD big on anything that isn't PlayStation?

>>714116518
Does the next Fable even have a character creation/male avatar?

>>714115660
>>nintendo killing physical and raising game prices

Honestly? that's more so due to third parties acting like thirdworlders. We need another cartridge based system but unfortunately the game industry keeps acting like thirdworlders about it.

>>714116802
There are rumors that it will but it's up in the air.

lel I wonder if that clusterfuck reaches Asobo Studios and what'd happend with their development for Flight Sim 2024. You have boomers and sim autists alike spending over $70 on add-ons and airliners over there

>>714114317
>>714113823
I for one am glad corpos are so stupid they can't see reality because it conflicts with their programming. The fact that they lost literal billions, and will lost a lot more before some of the even dares ponder if they might be wrong after all is too goddamn funny.

>>714116790
It was an XBox franchise till the PS4. Haven't seen the sales but it seems to be on the downswing. It was declining when Activision was independent but the double whammy of the market declining overall and the merger taking forever kind of killed it. I also suspect it may have something to do with millennials getting older and zoomers preferring Fortnite over COD. Might explain all the goofy skins we see in COD now.

>>714111391
Same, I can only keep up with one or two games at most every month, and I could just save up more money by just buying them on a steam sale instead.

Xbox fags be like
>Yeah we got our ass whopped in the typical console market
>BUUUT we're gonna kick the living shit out of Nintendo and Valve in the portable handheld market
>And we're allowing you to install Steam on our upcoming prebuilt PC Xbox
>So even though we're not getting money from online subscriptions anymore, Valve won't share 30% Steam revenue from games sold on there, our platform will be subsidized by magical aliens
>It'll just work
I still don't understand how Microsoft plans to build and sell next gen prebuilt machines that will be above 16GB VRAM for under 1000 dollars. The cost of a modern day GPU that's 4K capable and scalable with headroom for Raytracing and AI upscaling aren't cheap, VRAM is something AMD and NVIDIA do not want to give away even at 300 dollars. I know Xbox fags are the literal retards of /v/, so work with me here. Imagine you're building a gaming PC for a friend, you even build it for free, and you give it away for free. Your friend buys games on Steam and you make money off this either. OEMs selling gaming laptops and ASUS selling Rog Ally don't do this, lol, they make a profit on the expensive hardware.

Fucking Xboners are the dumbest people in gaming right next to their cult leader /r/Xbox Phil Spencer. Like I understand you're emotionally attached to Xbox but come on dude, gotta call it what it is. I don't see that digital store lasting long either with the way costs are going. Upkeep isn't free in the corporate world. Third worlders think those servers maintain themselves.

NOOO DOUBLE FINE MAKE IRON BRIGADE 2 BEFORE YOU GO PLEAZE

>>714111023
best they can do is picrel

>>714117131
So, it's not really big on PC even currently, right?

Would kill for Rare Replay physical on any platform that isn't Xbox.

>>714109875
Expand your dissenting opinion then anon.

hope everyone dies and loses their jobs lmao. shouldve had rich parents lmao

>>714112072
The awards the hellblade games got bought them more time, which they wasted.

>Double Fine
There's no way. They unironically won't get away with this

>>714106485 (OP)
>Ninja Theory
Oh great joy. Thank you. It's deserved after fucking up Hellblade 2 so much.

>>714113445
360 was better for the first two years, but even by 2008, PS3 was already mogging it in terms of library. PS3 was way better hardware, full BC out the box, blu-ray player, way better hardware, free online, tons of amazing exclusives.

360 was just coasting off PS3's blunder early on with pricing, as the latter half of the gen, its library was absolutely dire and Kinect floundered. I bought a 360 in 2005 and enjoyed it, but got the PS3 MGS4 bundle in 2008 and never looked back

>>714118319
gonna sound like an insane cope from me but I'm willing to bet they'll bring it to pc someday but physical versions elsewher won't come out unless they add more games to it
closest thing to it outdise of xbox is the switch online nes/n64 emulators that are only really missing battletoads, cbfd, and the ogxbox/360 stuff

>>714118642
I want Kameo more than anything else on Rare Replay. Almost bought an Xbox for it desu, but they decided to kill themselves and go third party. So I'll wait more.

>>714106485 (OP)
playstation won?

>>714118717
Yes and no. Not really a Playstation victory in the traditional sense. It's not like was Sony was operating a cutthroat generation against Nintendo and Xbox, if anything Playstation has been on auto-pilot relying on 3rd party exclusivity. Nintendo didn't kill Xbox either since they don't even acknowledge Xbox exists. So it was Phil Spencer walking to work one day and saying they're going third party and sawed off his entire hardware division legs.

>>714113634
Dumbass

How can they close down the initiative after revealing Perfect Dark last year?

>>714110845
>>714112693
The outrage bait is still relevant because it's a fracture point, where the companies ARE willing to take big risks, making shit for an audience that isn't there. But I agree that it's primarily the flavor of corporate stupid rather than a revolution in stupid..

>>714114317
>>714113823
A big chunk of this is because the normal feedback loop of the gaming press got completely separated from actual gamer purchases, gamer interest, and became entwined with advocacy people like SBI to the point where they're gaslighting the companies.

It's why so many articles were celebrating a "return to form" on on some of the biggest turds ever, and part of why the fami and steam charts got so much more attention. Because the press was flat out lying about the reception and success of a bunch of these products.

The gaming press, and the industry groups and even forbes, bloomberg, and the like are telling them that this is great stuff, blue water markets. And they dive in to billions of dollars of committment and are cratering.

>>714107298
It's not even competition, they make games for their fucking console!

>>714119003
With an apology.

more white men talent getting eradicated , u know how it goes

theyve been forcing minorities into white studios ever since 2017 and it began with state of decay's studio

its why we havent seen state of decay 3 despite being announced back in 2020

everyone hates each other within the studios because half is diversity hire and the morale gets destroyed and the games get remade 3 times and nothing goes anywhere

>>714119192
fuck white people u fags failed to resist jewry. this is chinas time bitch

>>714118717
>>714118857
In the console space, yes. But Xbox has enough money to regroup, and they're going to do SOMETHING.

>>714119347
lol

>>714118570
Bro
>>714116289
Its happening. Phils torching the whole company.

>>714119003
Perfect Dark reboot has been delayed like 3 times already, I know it was supposed to come out last year. And then it's not shipping out this year either, lol.

>>714118705
tbf you can buy a secondhand copy on 360 for like $5 and it'll even work on an xbone, which is a lot cheaper than spending $600 for series x or $380 for series s and still needing a gamepass subscription for RR
not sure how xenia handles it but it's worth a shot there too

If I'm going to take a guess it's
>Double Fine
>Compulsion Games
>Undead Labs
>Turn 10
All getting closed

>Obsidian Entertainment
>InXile
>The Initiative
>Ninja Theory
These guys will get hit with layoffs because they can lead in some areas while some are needed for help in development of games

The rest won't be touched because Microsoft already dealt with them. The rest fit Microsoft's multiplat strategy. Microsoft will keep Game Pass going for now until the fail to defeat Valve and the PlayStation dies then they'll go full publisher.

The problem with Xbox is that people know they basically have unlimited funding to fix their brand overnight, and Xbox already knows what people want, but the wrong people are in place to ensure nothing good ever happens.

>>714119320
>china
known for... live service slop, coom games and vaporware.

a single male will at max fall for the same bait 3 times before realizing they are masking the terrible gameplay and lack of content with cow breasts on your character.

>>714119745
Thanks for the tip based boomer game enjoyer brother.

>>714118610
>PS3 was already mogging it in terms of library
No, it wasn't, because the majority of its library was worse than on the 360. It had more exclusives, sure, but come on now.
>PS3 was way better hardware
Except in practice it accomplished nothing and the performance was almost always worse. Like 99% of multiplats were objectively better on 360 by a considerable margin even when they were Japanese-developed. Things like NieR were better on the 360 because it had a native save menu, faster loading, better performance, and I know there were a few other things. Asura's Wrath on PS3 had screen tearing so severe it was impossible not to ignore. Dragon's Dogma on 360 had worse AA while PS3 had massive screentearing but better AA (Might have been the opposite).
Major western titles like RDR1 had not only better performance but actually had grass on the ground.

If you were buying anything but exclusives on the PS3 you were objectively having a worse experience across the board. Even things like The Orange Box were missing updates the 360 had, so you had things like walking through walls and cloaked backstabs in TF2 on PS3 whereas on 360 those were patched.
>full BC out the box
Only on the launch models.

>>714118717
Yes and no, they beat Microsoft but are next. They may be even more fucked because their strategy is high-budget singleplayer-only movie games and live-service multiplayer games. Their only hope as a publisher is Sony's Japan branch rebuilding which isn't happening. Sony will drop gaming and go full manga/anime.

>>714119192
She's on the chopping block too, she's putting her entire career on this Xbox OEM plan which is designed to fail, lol.

>>714119415
Note that something possibly includes taking annual anal dragon dilldos, fiscally speaking, or even reverting to their pre-xbox days of being a simple PC game publisher.

>>714119782
So, the question really is, do the wrong people eventually get pushed out, by pure luck, or do they eventually buy someone competent who suvivies the fuckery? Or worse. it can always be worse.

>>714119965
Sony Japan has been cancelling a shit ton of live service games. Jade Raymond's game (yes, THAT one from Ubisoft) is essentially on life support. Google Sony cancelling live service games, they've been axing their live service pivot.

>>714119846
no problem m8
in actuality I'm just a 22 y/o zoomer that prefers older games by a country mile

>>714106618
:)

>>714120095
Hope they do the same for the movie games, we need more games like Astrobot. With games like that, it'll save them when they go full third party.

>>714106485 (OP)
Am so /g/lad to see Microsoft fail. This industry deserves to get fucked butI REALLY hope I can live to se total M$ death.
Consoles are obsolete anyway.

>>714120095
They wasted 5 years and billions of dollars and have literally nothing to show for it. They announced the other week that their plan going forward is ONE (1) game per year. PlayStation is kept alive by skimming 30% off the top of Fortnite micro transactions, they're not in a good position

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/06/19/xbox-amd-next-generation-xbox/
The Hardware team is also going, these mother fuckers aren't even making the box. They're just working with AMD to make the chips for consoles, handhelds, PCs, and Cloud. This is the PSSR situation from Sony all over again.

>>714120062
Xbox prebuilt PC OEM
>No way for Microsoft to make money from online subscription paywall
>When you buy a game on Steam, Microsoft doesn't get the 30% baseline royalty cut (EpicGameStore Timmy is BIG mad about this forever)
>By having a Windows PC mode and Steam compatibility, it will need to be an actual modern day competitive and PC parts are expensive (4K, a lot of VRAM)
>This will compete with Valve, OEM, Nintendo, Sony at the same time
The PS5 and Series X have 16GB VRAM unified, the next generation will be 24-32. Going to 24 on the conservative end, a 24GB GPU today costs 1000 dollars. How many PC parts are left to build the PC Xbox hybrid and how much is Microsoft going to sell at at loss, without a subsidize model.

>>714120419
It's going to be even bigger, if Bungie turns out to be a complete bust.

>>714120453
It's fucked, they're planning to sell at a profit. What's funny is for the Steam Deck 2, Valve will use their handheld chip and customized the shit out of it make the Deck 2 cost significantly less than Microsoft's OEM handhelds, lmao.

>>714107787
I used to have one in my dorm in college and I would save food from the dining hall to throw at him when he was least expecting it.

>>714106872
>billion dollar corporation
Trillion.

>>714120094
Even worse, the feds controlled too much of what got made for too long, and many actual employees left for obvious reasons.
Remember the Kinect?

Since the console itself is supposedly backwards compatible with Xbox One/Series, it will have more than 16GB VRAM. Our GPU selection therefore will be 2027 and I want everyone to think about how long we've been on 8GB VRAM cards as the baseline. 10 years. Consider how stingy AMD/NVIDIA are with VRAM and what deals Microsoft/Sony will get going forward. Although for Sony they probably don't have to worry a lot for the PS6 specs, since Xbox isn't a competitor anymore they don't have to chase high end power to compete with Nintendo.

It's so weird to talk about this because in theory Xbox could do something with their 50+ game studios and their trillion dollars of liquidity, but they just went third party after buying Activision and are slow walking their exit to become a PC OEM third party with a boutique Xbox ultra vinyl niche business.

>>714120612
>If
Reminder that Concord devs were all ex Bungie. Reminder that Bungie convinced SIE to cancel TLOU online and focus on Concord

>>714120618
Wasn't he at the summer game fest missing a front tooth and looking even worse in photos?

>>714120618
did he get older or did he go on a keto diet?

>>714120867
amphetamines, likely

when xbox dies will xboxers go to pc or playstation?

>>714120942
The poorer ones will go to ps since MS will dump everything there anyway

>>714120867
People assume chemo, syphilis or some form of amphetamine abuse.

>>714120942
PlayStation most likely only to get railroaded by a $900 price for the PS6, from there they will just drop out of gaming entirely thus gaming goes back to the nerds.

>>714120942
I'll probably just quit buying new games and play my existing library of stuff moving forward. I was done with Playstation years ago, and I just don't care enough anymore.

Everything I wanna play or will wanna play has been made.

>>714120942
Sega. They've actually been working on their own game digital streaming/storefront service instead of a new console so will pick up the engineers as they are actually a hawaiian company not japanese so get a shit ton of tax breaks for hiring us staff.

>>714120942
Phones

>>714111391
I legit got a month of it this year to rush through P3 Remake and left kinda miffed because some of muh cheevos got locked behind the Aigis DLC. Getting it again later this year for Metaphor and E33.

>>714107807
Shit leadership and bloated non-technical talent is usually 99% of the problem.

Xbox is redundant. Do we really need TWO living room consoles that do the exact same thing but arbitrarily lock out a couple of exclusives? Right now the gaming market is Playstation for the couch console experience, mobile for casual timewasters, nintendo/steam deck for actual gaming on the go plus TV setup available, and PC for nerds who want high performance and mods. Xbox is just a straight up inferior Playstation and everyone knows it.

>>714121236
fuck no i understand xbox is kinda retarded but phone gaming is outright subhuman

>>714121236
only women spend time playing mobile games or east asians.

>>714106485 (OP)
Indians strike again

>>714121290
In the future, you won't need either, just a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2.

>>714106485 (OP)
Youbguys need to understand what xbox is to ms and this makes sense. Ms does not care about xbox console being number 1, because xbox for more than 10 years has been onlyba way to get people into the ms ecosystem. To them xbox might as well just be a marketing term, its why they did the this is am xbox campaign, they dont really care about the console, they just want you in the ms ecosystem.

>>714120942
People with jobs primarily play on PC.

>>714111856
They need to get rid of asians dudes that took over the series. They clearly had no idea what they were doing with the latest Forza Motorsport. They took 7 years to put out a worse product than the previous one.

>>714121412
That makes them the clear majority.

>>714121236
why the fuck would i go to the platform that started all the problems we have today???

>>714121290
>Xbox is just a straight up inferior Playstation and everyone knows it.
The Xbox is way better at being both a teevee and gaming box. It supports more, does more. PS5 can't do shit in comparison but it has a better bluray playback app.
I play more PS1/PS2 games on my Xbox than I do my PS5 for sure. It just sucks that Xbox will never get its shit together again.

>>714106812
MS is done with xbox anon, the next xbox might come out but there will be nothing after that. Same as PS by the way, PS6 is definitely coming out but PS7 im not so sire. Its just that the idea of having a dedicated console is kind of getting outdated, Nintendo stays because they are pretty much the Disney of videogames. I could see Valve stepping in and sweeping everything up.

>>714121437
Given that they're promoting other storefronts not even owned by them, I honestly don't think they even want you in their ecosystem anymore. Given this >>714120434 is what they're doing with chips with rumors/leaks showing that Valve has this handheld chip and customizing it for the Deck's successor, this sounds like a complete exit from Microsoft with them being full third party.

>>714113926
they form by themselves on individuals who truly symbolize the values of the tribe

>>714113770
After it flops? Just get rid of the team that made it. The Forza Horizon team will be fine.

>>714106485 (OP)
interesting how it's only the core xbox studios in danger of being shuttered
high moon, beenox, and raven at activision don't even do anything outside of cod support

>>714121879
True, plus they also have Elder Scrolls, so what's even the point of Fable or Avowed anymore? I feel like Obsidian should only exist for Grounded since Bethesda got everything they already make, covered for them.

Can this industry just fucking implode already?

>>714121787
I guess i should have been more detailed. Xbox WAS a way to get you into the ecosystem, but like the other anon said
>>714107303 when you are spending this much you cannot just be a side project (and yes to a company as large as ms, xbox might as well be a side project). So i guess they are just gonna let it wither and be done with it. The wildcard here is Steam. Steam is doing like a reverse xbox, they know they can't rely on MS , because eventually MS wants more people to only download from MS store (couple of years back i remember rumors about Windows making it harder to install things not from the ms store), the issue here is that Valve wants people using Linux because they know MS might start cutting them out at any moment.

>>714121903
Microsoft has a lot of redundant series that were made to fight the PlayStation, they have to trim the fat and keep what others don't make. Small studios though, those are definitely getting the ax since Microsoft only needed them for early days Game Pass.

>>714121787
>Given that they're promoting other storefronts not even owned by them, I honestly don't think they even want you in their ecosystem anymore.
This is so crazy to think about too, it's like exclaiming
>I FUCKING HATE HAVING A CUT OF EVERY SALE
Imagine also spending years building a console storefront also tied to a membership that brings in ezpz recurring revenue every month and wanting to kill the device most people access it through

>>714122095
No.

>>714122219
>I FUCKING HATE HAVING A CUT OF EVERY SALE
They dont care anon, xbox is small potatoes and its becoming a pebble in their shoe at this rate.

>>714121290
man imagine an alternate timeline where Xbox actually got its shit together.

>Release Xbox one
>Very offline friendly, no DRM crisis
>Manufacturing moves to the USA
>Really good launch lineup
>Halo 5 revolutionizes FPS games
>Halo infinite actually lives up to the title and has everything from past Halo games and more. Open world is pure kino. And the story is heartfelt
>Gears is also awesome again, revolutionizes TPS.
>Forza doesn't have dogshit microtransactions and is a really fun racing game with tons of unlockables
>Purchase all the companies they purchased, become a powerhouse
>Xbox literally makes every year since 2013 similar to how Nintendo made 2017 but this time for the west
>Really cool blizzard spinoffs get made
>Bring banjo back in a huge way, is the Mario of xbox. Mainline and spinoffs that rival Mario
>We would be on elder scrolls 8 by now
>Fallout 5 is pure kino and easily BTFOS new vegas
>Some of the sexiest characters in gaming.
>TLDR: Absolute powerhouse in western gaming and actually American first.

Man what a shit timeline we're in.

>>714122219
Microsoft is just waiting for Gabe to kick the bucket so they can just buy Valve for a trillion dollars. Gabe's already so rich he can't really be bought, but his successor might.

>>714120942
most likely if the Xbox (hardware) dies, they'll migrate their Xbox (brand) libraries to PC. They already offer some tittles where you can play on pc or consoles, can't recall if you needed to be subscribed to gamepass as well.

>>714122364
Gabe probably already has some failsafe for that like Nintendo does.

>>714111280
It may not be next gen but the "Xbox handheld" points to them entirely leaving the manufacturing space and becoming like epic where they have a launcher and publish games while maybe licensing their name to hardware.

>>714122164
it makes sense yeah
just tragic considering that some teams have shown potential to do better and most of their best stuff isn't even backwards compatibie

>>714122285
>They dont care anon, xbox is small potatoes and its becoming a pebble in their shoe at this rate.
It's crazy for them to buy Activision and then think this way, but it's always been their fault.

It could've been a fuckin' mountain, a beautiful one bro

>>714122308
all of this can still happen in the present
the xbox division should just be smarter about how it spends its money

>>714122509
yeah them not bothering with some kind of in-house handheld shows they're ready to leave
they coulda even done what nintendo did and pushed their whole setup to arm but sativa nutella probably thought that was too good of an idea

>>714122530
I feel like Toys for Bob was preview of that. Microsoft doesn't need a first party studio that can make a platformer when Xbox Publishing exists.

>>714120171
>get on the microsoft dole
>4 years since psychonauts 2
>"let's check up on what double fine is working on"
>tim shows them a quirky 3 hour indie-tier walking simulator with no gameplay
>"okay you're getting axed"

>>714122308
>Halo 5 revolutionizes FPS games
it did nothing but chase popular trends right down to having a stupid loadout/moba style mode

>>714110516
sarr please kindly input your code sarr kindly

How the fuck does Phil Spencer still have a job? I don't think anyone could've really salvaged the brand after what Mattrick did but "spend all of our fucking money on buying studios rather than actually funding games to the point where we have to put all of our exclusives on other platforms and essentially kill the Xbox ecosystem" had to have been one of the worst ways to try fixing shit

>>714122847
lmao microsoft even outsourced their ceo

Why did the game industry shit itself in the last decade? They were all doing so well during the PS1 and PS2 gen and PS3 gen. They all decided to go full retard in the PS4 and PS5 gen for some reason.

>>714120867
Ozempic

>>714122308
>Halo 5 revolutionizes FPS games
Doom already did that, Halo offers nothing anymore but a singleplayer campaign which is probably why Microsoft is keeping Halo and Master Chief alive, we'll see on multiplayer. That became too much like COD and Microsoft owns COD now so why should they continue with Halo's multiplayer when that's not even popular, same with Gears of War.

>>714106485 (OP)
>>at least 25% (5000 people) of Xbox's game developers will be laid off
I'm not buying it. A lot like an Xbox.

>>714122717
very true, and it's precisely why tfb was thrown to the wolves instead of just nuked
having them around to develop spyro, crash, banjo for M$ will prove better in the long term than the company assusming those dev costs for the sake of maintaining a firsty party ecosystem

>>714106706
Their shape shifting abilities lessen as their age advances.

>>714122910
>ps3 gen
>doing well
you might want to recheck this one

>>714122882
>How the fuck does Phil Spencer still have a job?
No one else wants it.

>>714122787
stupid faggot, I said that this was an ALTERNATE Halo 5 illiterate fuck. I don't know how Halo 5 could've been revolutionary, but Implying that it was made to actually be amazing, and could've done something new.

>>714107085
I bought one because it didn't use memory cards. Ended up having a good time.

>>714122910
I think the low interest credit from early 2020s catalyzed that trend as they believed spending would still keep up or some shit like that which happened to the tech industry as well

*Sends your brand plummeting down a pit that it will never climb out of*
Not my problem

>>714107386
That's retarded. Ford wouldn't have kept a bunch of production lines around that weren't making any money. I was a good person, who was right - not an idiot.

>>714122910
They thought pandemic increases in video game playing/demand would expand forever. Loads of industries did this, but only video games did it to the degree they did

>>714122910
>Why did the game industry shit itself in the last decade?

>>714122910
>Why did the game industry shit itself in the last decade?
a combination of gamergate and fed money

>>714123034
I heavily believe all the studios on UE5 are getting the Halo Studios treatment. Teams get gutted and will mainly lead and create over develop. Third parties will develop the entire games along with temps. Most of Microsoft's games will be outsourced, Microsoft's own next gen console will most likely be the last one they make themselves like Sony's PS6.

>>714107405
Shitting out small flops is a sustainable strategy for a Microsoft studio for as long as they want to keep up the gamepass meme.

>>714122983
Halo could've had way better sandbox gameplay in comparison to Doom 2016. That's how it would've been good.

>>714123281
>Starts to dip in 2022
2025 update?

>>714123281
including mobile games in the game industry is like including porn in the movie industry. Mobile games should be considered a totally different thing.

>>714123253
>3 hours later
>OY VEY
lmao

>>714123382
Making the Halo MP a full-blown sandbox game may actually save it.

>>714123281
>line going down
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>714107405
they're shitting out games these days at least. Took Ninja Theory 7 years to develop Hellblade II which was aguarbly shorter and even more of a movie game with worse puzzles than Hellblade I.

>>714123102
I don't mean sony specifically. I mean video game companies in general were doing well in that gen. It was during the PS4 gen when everything started falling apart

>>714123486
Everyone likes porn.

>>714123575
I will admit, I think Switch actually proves how if the games industry wanted to, we could've had the 7th generation of gaming actually last 20 years. Rather than immediately jumping 8th gen hardware standards.

>>714123684
my mom doesnt like porn

>>714123684
until the scatfags show up

>>714106618
>>714106673
The Psychonauts 2 documentary is shocking, I cant believe the studio lasted this long

This gif needs to stop being correct at some point, right?

>>714106485 (OP)
Double Fine doesn't deserve it
Tim Schafer absolutely deserves it

>>714113823
>and EVERY single dev makes the same politically correct shit.
What a weird coincidence.

>>714123963
>conveniently forgetting the gamecube and wii u eras

>>714123963
The Switch's logo is a yin-yang for a reason anon.....

>>714123963
Nope.
The problem with those companies is that they are full-on western companies. Even Sony took the western pill and is now facing western consequences.

It turns out you can't run a successful industry by investing full-on into jewish money tricks to make your stock look strong and healthy. At some point, you have to make games people like and the west genuinely, 100% hates video games and the people who play and buy them.

>>714124059
Even then they still had nearly all of the portable space via the juggernaut that was the DS and the late bloomer 3DS.

>>714106485 (OP)
Remember when people said Sony was finished -when Microsoft bought Activision?

>>714106485 (OP)
>Double Fine
Grim if true, started replaying Brutal Legend recently and its as good as i remember, would be a shame if they went under

>>714106485 (OP)
whens the gaming industry going to crash?

>>714124059
The Gamecube and the Wii-U eras still made money for Nintendo because they still had the handheld market cornered. People just forget or pretend the DS wasn't the most successful handheld of all time outside of the iphone because it makes the argument that Nintendo was losing those generations seem silly: The consoles were less important than the handheld.

>>714124059
The Gamecube situation was not even close to as bad as the WiiU.

>>714124185
We were looking too far ahead. Because what's actually killing them now is dumping money into live-service games and Marvel licenses.

>>714124228
god remember when Jack Black was the funny rough and crass Tenacious D personality and not the chicken jockey man? Why does all culture suck now?

>>714122910
You can only replace competent with diverse people for so long before things stop working.

>>714106937
but that exact sort of thing makes line go down

>>714120062
These type of people only ever fall upwards.

>>714106618
>>714106673
>>714106882

>>714122910
Literally DEI. The aftereffects of OWS and post-modernism are going to be felt into the next generation

>>714120942
xboxers can only afford shitty low spec PCs anyway

>>714120062
>She's on the chopping block too
the problem is that she's the pin at the back, hiding behind dozens of game industry vets who could revolutionize games right now if they had any power, but will instead be sacrificially canned to save her own skin. By the time things get so bad that her job is on the line: It'll already be too late.

Thus is the culture of western game development

>>714107298
I still remember when people called me schizo for mentioning EEE strategy when Microsoft bought ActiBlizz, they’ve doing the same since the 90’s

>>714124160
Microsoft and Sony should have saw the boom of 2007 and 2020 as minor and not something that would last, it's these exact moments in history that is leading to their ends.

>>714124389
>remember when Jack Black was funny
on like, 2 movies, or 3 if you want to be generous
I love Nacho Libre to this day, but even back then i thought school of rock was obnoxious and cringe
then people pretended PEACHES was funny because he voiced Bowser
and the fact that he went to do the minecraft movie it's just the logical conclusion to where his
career was inevitably heading
(and he STILL hasn't shaved that shitty marx-looking beard which is just ugly to look at)

When will the Series S/X get a full hack to let it run 360 and Xbox1 isos? I have a Series S left in a cupboard I never use just in case it ever gets a full hack.

>>714122095
xbox doing poorly is not a symptom of sony, nintendo, or valve dying. death cult xbox fan behavior.

>>714124587
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, we can hope for some smaller American devs not latched to Microsoft to make a difference.

>>714122910
HD. You can trace the decline of the industry by the adoption of HD graphics. it necessitates gigantic budgets and dev times, smaller teams get left in the dust. Those who'd have otherwise been small-time devs flood the indie scene, which produces a tidal wave of shovelware. Fast forward a few years, all of a sudden games cost millions to make but their value is debased to <$0.99. Only way out is to make a more expensive game and charge more, which makes the problem worse, and necessitates even bigger, more expensive games. Forever. Until it all collapses because nobody spends on anything but the same few F2P titles anymore.

>>714124645
At some point he just quit caring. He became self-aware that his personality was a meme at this point so his humor didn't need to push any boundaries, he just had to be able to walk and breathe and he would catch Hollyjew money falling from the sky.

>>714119003
>>714119735
The Initiative is a weird one. They were formed specifically to be Microsoft's answer to Naughty Dog or Crystal Dynamics - basically making the Xbox division the sorts of big AAA moviegames that Sony had so much success with. M$ were obviously putting a lot of money into them since they started immediately recruiting staff with big name studio CVs like Insomniac, Sony Santa Monica, Rockstar, Blizzard and the original Kojima Productions. Then they proceeded to do nothing for years, have huge personnel turnover and then get dumped on to a mediocre-looking Perfect Dark reboot that has to be finished by of all studios, Crystal Dynamics, after M$ decide to close the studio.

Would love to know the behind the scenes shit that went on there.

>>714107093
It's what's going to happen to Sony's portfolio as well.
The entire triple-A economic model has outpaced itself miles beyond being able to sustain itself. 'The big two' are only now starting to realize that their race against each other to consolidate studios has only served to tied the noose around their neck. So they panic: "Get rid of it!" "Shut it down!" etc.

We are on the eve of an absolute bloodletting.

Meanwhile, GabeN is probably laughing his ass off - as Steam is thriving with indies and A / double-A titles that remain profitable and sell well enough to keep their studios and publishers afloat. He wins by having done nothing. Again.

Buying once great things only to close them down later. This is what these jewish billionaires do with your stolen tax money.

>>714122910
Shareholders started applying the infinite growth meme to video games. Also we're still feeling the after effects of COVID when developers/publishers started massively overhiring, thinking that the spike in people buying games/DLC thanks to being stuck at home would somehow persist on even after we were past the worst of the pandemic.

>>714124738
>HD. You can trace the decline of the industry by the adoption of HD graphics. it necessitates gigantic budgets and dev times, smaller teams get left in the dust. Those who'd have otherwise been small-time devs flood the indie scene, which produces a tidal wave of shovelware. Fast forward a few years, all of a sudden games cost millions to make but their value is debased to <$0.99. Only way out is to make a more expensive game and charge more, which makes the problem worse, and necessitates even bigger, more expensive games. Forever. Until it all collapses because nobody spends on anything but the same few F2P titles anymore.

I swear to fucking god, this man and the Nintendo 64 were the event horizon of the industry

>>714123575
I know what you meant. Vidya companies were NOT doing well in the 7th gen. Tens of thousands of devs were losing their jobs, dozens of studios closed, the insurmountable cost of HD development famously killed the AA market. MS lost billions of Xbox that gen too due to the RROD

>>714122095
The industry is condensing and fixing itself. This will either make or break Microsoft and Sony depending on their decisions going forward. My guess for Microsoft is prioritizing series that makes them money that offer something different that doesn't compete with their other studios while outsourcing a lot. Sony's Japan branch will gut their American branch and make more studios like Asobi returning to their roots. Both will be publishers offering something different and unique. Nintendo and Valve will benefit from this greatly.

Are you considering buying the ROG Xbox handheold?

>>714107869
Promotional game trailers, it seems.

>>714124738
I wouldn't say it's just HD, it's more of the lack of dev tool progress, chasing retarded tech, and also I blame the Internet way more for things like DLC and shit existing, which I think ruined gaming way harder. HD wouldn't be so bad if the industry just stuck with it for a little bit longer. And I think we had some very kino games by the end of the 360Wii Generation. I think it's moreso 8th that still needed some time to cook.

>>714116430
Reply to this

>>714123850

>>714124965
2007 killed the industry for the worst, 2020 killed the industry for the better. We went AAA after 2007, now we're going A and AA after 2020. The good news about this is Microsoft's and Sony's ambitions will be locked down as publishers never growing to that level again.

>>714124653
i will gladly trade my 360 for a series x when they put Burnout 3 or Halo 2 Classic in its BC library (never)

>>714107085
It's just burgers who only play dogshit like COD

How does this industry expect people to buy all of the big expensive AAA games in large enough quantities to keep them profitable? Most people are only going to buy like 3 or 3 AAA games a year now that those games are like 80 bucks or more.

>>714124976
MS still has the option of going all in on Gamepass and effectively becoming the gaming equivalent of Netflix. Sony however is in a very weird limbo state as their hardware is the only thing people seem to want but if that's the case you may as well be making budget PCs without the Playstation branding.

Everyone points to the Xbone reveal as the beginning of the end for the Xbox brand, but it started earlier than that. Really the first big crack that began to show was with Don Mattrick trying to chase the Wii's success with the original Kinect. Look at the games Microsoft were funding pre and post-2010.

I'd say Peter Moore could've saved them had he stuck around but the RRoD was on his watch, so who really knows.

>Xbox 360 was hardwired to kill itself
>This doesn't kill the brand
>Microsoft pivots all resources to developing half-baked wagglan games
>This doesn't kill the brand
>The laundry list of issues with the xbox one
>doesn't kill the brand
>likely at least 1.5 BILLION dollars spent to push 2 games with zero cultural relevance (Halo Infinite and Starfailed)
>doesn't kill the brand
Genuinely what the fuck would it take for them to go out of business?

>>714125176
Well thats what I mean. When will there be a full hack for the console to just let run whatever xbox and 360 games they want. Surely it will happen at some point?

>>714119347
>they're going to do SOMETHING.
They're unironically going to expand the PC Xbox app to be a launcher and storefront.
And compete with Steam.

>>714125360
2 or 3*

>>714125398
Are these "budget" PC in the room with us right now? 4K GPU, 16GB VRAM, Raytracing, starting at what non scalped prices?

>>714124964
The triforce doesn't have wisdom for nothing

>>714125574
>4K GPU
You're missing a hell of a lot of asterisks on that statement guy

>>714125487
they tried that with emulation on the series s, but microsoft saw people having fun, and said NO to that

>>714122308
There's just one problem with all that:
It's predicated on Microsoft knowing what it's doing.

Amazing that this limey sleazebag gets a pass with you faggots just because he was ex-Sega and funded some Japshit.

>>714125469
>>likely at least 1.5 BILLION dollars spent to push 2 games with zero cultural relevance (Halo Infinite and Starfailed)
Baby numbers
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/25/starfield-just-made-microsoft-and-xbox-a-ton-of-money/

>>714106485 (OP)
>shitty devs that make games I hate.
God it feels good to be an X-God.

>>714125752
I mean they had to cover their ass on that, having your console seen as an official emubox is fucky publicity. Gabe did the same thing with the Steam Deck and even fingered Dolphin personally.

>>714125869
people getting free trials to play slopfield until they realize it's complete slop 2 hours in, and microsoft counting those as sales, is not a cultural victory.

>>714125869
>thirdies are actually keeping xbox afloat with their 1 dollar "library access" scam to 20 year old games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQOVYnUL8ns

>>714125753
yeah that's why i made it up.

>>714106485 (OP)
>Double Fine
No good games. Dumb boomer company.

>Perfect Dark
Girlboss game with giga-jaw protagonist, DEI characters and generic gameplay.

>Ninja Theory
Girlboss the studio.

>Compulsion Games
DEI slop

>small studios are not making any impact on Game Pass subscriber figures
More like DEI girlboss slop doesn't.

>>714125992
>microsoft counting those as sales
>>714126034
Spin it however you want. Starfield made $3.9 billion for MS in revenue.

>>714126034
That's the sad state of the industry really, Nintendo's the only console manufacturer making the lion's share of their money off of their games. Xbox needs gamepass and PC and Sony is being held up by Fortnite and Genshin kickbacks.

>>714126139
>Starfield
This is xbox wide for their entire catalogue. Now they will never die, thanks thirdies

>>714125469
Microsoft (the NSA) is essentially the 4th branch of the US government so they're not going anywhere anytime soon

>buy company
>cancel their game
>fire everyone
what exactly is Microsoft's plan here?

>>714108419
My guess is what this anon says. There's probably a massive schism in Microsoft Corpos between soulless suits that want nothing to do with videogames and consoles because they got their own sectors gutted when Microsoft pushed to get into vidya VS Souless suits that only get into vidya because it's profitable and
shut down everything that doesn't print money for them or prints money for someone that's not them. Zero sum game and all that. There's probably a lot of Microsoft corpos that are salivating at the idea of Xbone wounding so they can kill it off for good. They buy and kill companies that work so they don't have competition, it wouldnt be a stretch to think that doesn't happen between subsectors of Megacorporations

>>714125768
top lad

>>714126252
absorbing literally anybody that knows how to code and then mashing them into their in house studio

>>714125398
>Sony however is in a very weird limbo state as their hardware is the only thing people seem to want but if that's the case you may as well be making budget PCs without the Playstation branding.

Add to that, the legal case against them running in the Netherlands.
Where the Dutch are trying their own bid at Epic-vs-Apple and forcing Sony to open up the PlayStation platform to third party storefronts and sideloading.
Thing is-- they're in the EU and have the Digital Markets Act on their side for it. All it takes is the EU Commission catching wind of the hub-bub, looking at the case brief and deciding to use their privilege to - despite PlayStation maybe not reaching all required thresholds - mark the platform and PSN as a gatekeeper regardless.

And then Sony is basically cooked.
They either open up PlayStation, or can bugger off out of Europe.
Europe is basically 50%~60% of their install base, so they can't afford to lose that. (Nor can they afford to give it to PC or Nintendo.)
So they're stuck. They'll have to open up the platform.

At which point, as the PS5 basically runs on a modified BSD, Valve is probably going to jump in and bring Steam and Proton to PlayStation and is going to utterly ream Sony's ass -- basically swallowing the platform and taking it from them - whole.

The fat man wins.

That's sad about double fine, now they own that legacy

>>714125768
His tenure over Xbox produced kino after kino that outdid Sony immediately after the peak of the ps2 and made Xbox a cultural force that has coasted off the goodwill of his era for 20 years.

Plus he told Yuji Naka to fuck off so he's based

So like will Microsoft just make an Xbox branded PC next gen?

>>714126252
Obtaining the IPs and then getting AI to code games for it.
Haven't you heard? 30% of all Microsoft code is already written by AI.

(Kind of explains all the shit Windows-patches, doesn't it?)

>>714106485 (OP)
>multiple studios are being shut down including; Compulsion Games, Double Fine, The Initiative and Ninja Theory
Based. When are they nuking Rare too? All of these long dead, shit studios need to go. Thats what you get for dealing with Microsoft.

>>714126353
Isn't xbox already free to put their games on the PS if they wanted to?

>>714106751
>NOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE WORKING CLASS KARL MARX SAVE ME
It would be nice to see a bunch of anons troll billionaires and ruin them.

>>714106706
Classic hebrew phenotype

>>714109181
ywnbaw

>>714107085
Americans are just special

>>714109658
Hello Tim

>>714126252
it's it's a new form of 'embrace, extend, extinguish': 'acquire, absorb, annihilate'

>>714126307
Why don't they just drop everything altogether right now? Sell what they got before it gets worse.

>>714111138
Except that's not fucking true. Westwood got bought out because they spent too much money on a failed attempt at an MMO. Then the company just got killed by EA and anyone left got rolled into EA's LA team. They were never a zombie company, they were just outright executed because EA wanted more creative control and to get rid of old heads from the studio.

>>714119897
Nobody gave a shit about performance like that zoomer. This was well before the DF dick measuring. 99% of people didn't notice or care

>>714126782
> 'acquire, absorb, annihilate'
The new triple-A, kek.

>>714106706
Prism has always been an ugly little golem

>>714126901
Because throwing in the towel means not only handing over their market share but also making the rest of MS look that much weaker. Like you have to remember that the Xbox came in as SEGA was bleeding out over the failures of the Saturn and Dreamcast and they still arguably haven't recovered their image.

>>714113563
I think the gaijin aren't allowed to legally own any public company based in Japan. But I might be wrong.

>>714106485 (OP)
What games have these studios put out in the last, say, 5 years?

what would a modern, offline, cartridge based console look like? there have been huge updates in storage technology since games went digital, but a game being complete and bug free on release is almost non existent these days, what would it take to make it work?

>>714126741
The fact that Americans abandoned Sony after the PS2 for the Xbox 360 was incredibly based. It made Sony become fiercly competitive in the American market, and that still shows today.
Meanwhile here in Europe, everyone will drag themselves through burning hot coals and fields of broken glass to get the latest playstation with the latest fifa, no matter the cost. They know we're brand loyal so they use us to subsidize the American market which is more volatile and can abandon them at any time.

>>714113563
Japan doesn't like big mergers especially when it could result in market cornering. IIRC Nintendo tried to buy out Namco a while back and that got blocked by the government.

>>714106618
>>714106673
>>714116289
>layoff drama will be in the next documentary
we gonna be eating good, boyz

>>714126252
You're assuming there's a plan. Microsoft is a colossus of thousands of people, which moves with all the speed and dexterity of a crippled panda bear. There is no plan, only today's decisions and tomorrow's rationalizations about why they were good. Every big company is like this btw.

>>714127151
I guess it's no surprise that the PlayStation brand is such a big deal in Europe considering how much emphasis they put on advertising at football games. Watch any Champions League match and like a third of the ads you'll see are for PlayStation stuff.

>>714126962
>Nobody gave a shit about performance like that
Bayonetta was literally unplayable on PS3, yes they did. It was a well known fact the PS3 versions of multiplats were terrible back then because I literally lived through that period and ignored PS3 versions for that very reason despite being an idort.

Eurogamer had the Digital Foundry guys before they founded Digital Foundry doing comparisons all the time.
https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-red-dead-redemption-face-off
TheSixthAxis directly covered the RDR1 thing.
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/05/20/read-red-redemption-ps3-vs-360/

In general there was no reason to buy a PS3 version of a multiplat unless Sony was moneyhatting content like Bamham's Joker DLC, Assassin's Creed's random DLC here and there, or the Dead Space DLC, but even then the 360 versions had constant advantages like the better version of Bamham, the AC games performing worse on the PS3 and the DLC being inconsequential at best, and Dead Space on PS3 being the worst version for a long time. Tons of EA games were piss poor on the PS3. This isn't even getting into the fact that by default the expectation with any PS3 multiplat was frame drops, muddy visuals, and no AA. Every single time.

360 also had random third-party exclusives like Bioshock, Mass Effect, Star Ocean 4, and Alone in the Dark as simple examples that PS3 didn't get until years after the fact. Even when they got ported to PS3 they were typically worse. Bioshock for example was not only at a lower resolution but ran worse despite that.

>>714106485 (OP)
>Welcome to Microsoft
>we have like a million studios and unlimited funds
>please make games, talk to other studios, develop things
>the majority of you have yet to make a game and the ones that did what the fuck are doing? why is a bloated unreal version of oblivion kicking the shit out of all of your games?
>ok, big showcase coming up and its an important time for gamers, what do we have?
>Nothing? no games? we have "outer worlds 2".
>Ninja Theory holy shit what are you even doing
>Rare you have made Sea of Theives and nothing else, just make Banjo Kazooie remake so i stop getting asked about it for fucks sake
>Playground? is the entire Fable game a mockumentary? we are so fucked
>ok Double Fine its been 4 years since psychonauts 2 lets see what we got... a lighthouse game? thats it?
>Halo Studios, im kidding i know you are doing nothing

Bomb the industry

>>714107869
cum out of someone's penis

>>714106485 (OP)
God I hate this ugly prick

>>714122765
I'd axe them too. Make Psychonauts 3, or SOMETHING EQUIVALENT, or fuck off.

>>714127778
>>714106485 (OP)
Microsoft spent so much time and money on their legal department that everything else suffered. They litigated themselves into a lack of creativity.

>>714127704
Funny you mention Bayo's PS3 port since Shu Yoshida was furious about that for years afterwards, feeling like Sega and Platinum had stooged them. Kamiya said Platinum pitched Bayo 2 to "all the big publishers", so I'd wager Sony was one of them and I could see it falling apart over that.

>>714126962
EVERYONE complained about PS3 versions since devs had to deal with the console's nightmare spaghetti code

>>714107405
They are actually releasing games constantly and in relatively short time, plus they are profitable enough because of the low scope, so their names are around every quarter. Essentially this is a case of "try to look busy when the boss is watching."

>>714124263
sadly FIFA and CoD dudebros will keep it afloat for the foreseeable future

>>714125398
They kind of already given up on that, the Game Pass era is over, these studio closures are an indication of that. We're now in the publisher era of Xbox.

>>714125768
He kept the suit out of Xbox, so he gets a pass.

>>714123575
HD development cracked the back of most companies. Every PC developer outside of Blizzard, Valve, Paradox and Stardock, collapsed or switched to making console games, like Bethesda.
>I mean video game companies in general were doing well in that gen
You were young at the time and are applying survivor bias. Valve and Nintendo were doing well enough, so they survived and you think about them today. Taito, Looking Glass and ones that were left behind are largely forgotten.

Its seems thats the nintendo and valve guy is right

>>714125752
i thought up to a point you paid (not a significant sum iirc) to get some debug app enabled and actually send and install WMD packages on your console, can't remember if it was for the One or the Series

>>714106485 (OP)
>ninja theory
hellblade was just a shit schizo walking sim flop.
>the initiative
good riddance, they were mostly made up of crystal dynamics, bioware, naughty dog, santa monica, blizzshart and insomniac devs which is the worst of the worst. also trannified perfect dark. not surprising that crystal dynamics will finish the job after how badly they butchered tomb raider.
>double fine
never liked any of their games other than the remasters of old lucasarts point & clicks
>compulsion games
sweet baby'd, good riddance

>>714122910
I think what we're seeing just now is a correction from the insanity that was the overspending of the early 2020s. Companies were being mad stupid about that.

>>714126252
crashing this industry until there's ONLY slop being offered

>>714106485 (OP)
Layoffs are too good for these devs next time take them behind the building and bury them alive

>>714109658
Most of the Valve fans left like their hardware and find Steam useful. Valve software fans largely left a decade ago since they stopped making single player games

>>714128341
shit I remember PS3 Skyrim being straight up broken

jason schrier is such a fucking hacky jew

>>714106485 (OP)
learn to code!

>>714129376
Google says you still can if you pay $20 for dev mode.

>>714109658
Because steam is the best platform. It's really that simple. nobody cares about valve's actual games except nostalgiafags, they don't really make games anymore.
imagine if Nintendo announced tomorrow that online would be free from now on, including dedicated servers; plus they're adding an overhauled review system, and you can refund any game for any reason if you don't like it after 2 hours. And all their games will have seasonal sales up to 90% off. And you can now run them on custom hardware, including handhelds and PCs. And they'll certify the games work on that hardware, also they coded their own controller compatibility layer to make sure you can use whatever controller you want, and they'll certify that works too. And they're adding a game overlay that works on every title, retroactively. And cloud saves. Oh, and you can turn all this off if you don't want it. And they did all that for free and on top of this, they force devs to lower regional prices across the board.
Imagine the absolute tidal wave of good PR they'd get. Yeah valve already has that by default. Then they get called a monopoly and everyone's baffled they're getting left in the dust, lol

>>714129784
that thing is still not full hacked. Like you cant run ISOs of 360 and Xbox 1 games.

>>714106485 (OP)
I hope they make the female lead to the new fable hot. If the game has good combat and you can romance anyone like in the old games then I would buy an xbox and the peasant pass if they did that.

>>714106485 (OP)
>Ninja Theory getting the axe
This is good news.

only the sloppest of slop will remain

>>714106485 (OP)
Why are devs constantly fired but other companies like mine have IT people doing nothing and no one touches us?

>>714124169
>Even then they still had nearly all of the portable space
AKA the shit nobody except Japan ever gave a fuck about.

>>714130616
FUCK YOU

>>714126525
As a publisher, the dutch and the British are complaining thats the ps store is much more expensive than other storefronts

>>714126516
Rare is just a brand, thats no one cares anymore

>>714130856
playstation uses the exact same rates valve nintendo and microsoft use, 30%

it's not clear how buying tons of studios to close them down generates returns for shareholders

>>714126502
Its not the case since the xbone?

>>714130828
Just call me Phil the studio killer. Has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

>>714130964
The consumers are complaining not the publishers

>>714129448
Right a bunch of people down here got into work from home dev positions but most got wiped out in the following layoffs, some were smart with the quick cash they made.

>>714125469
Nothing, Microsoft is to big to fail

>>714106485 (OP)
that's what they get for releasing garbage or simply not releasing shit at all. it's their own damn fault they're trailing and will never recover

>>714130981
well I mean a literal actual PC tower

>>714129148
what do you mean?

>>714130794
The DS was fucking huge in America, what are you on. Pokemon not needing link cables alone carried that console.

>>714127115
idk, the Switch 2? LMAO

You know first party still works like that right? Its just third party acting like the third world right now.

Unless you mean like extreme offline like with no internet whatsoever which would be cool.

I think atari could try again but idk.

>>714108469
>100% a company that will resurface as a "Ex Company"
Only MS will keep Double Fine's IP like Psychonauts locked away forever. Greedy motherfuckers are holding on to the Evil Within from Tango Gameworks; they can't even support their current dev pipeline, what the fuck can they do with it?

>>714116430
>>"But we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way."

The big mistake in his logic is him thinking the shitty games they've been pumping out were actually good.

>>714130972
If they buy the studios they get their IP, which they can use to automatically generate AI content later on. In the future MS leadership imagines, original human ideas that existed pre-LLMs are like oil, a limited resource that has to be cornered for later exploitation. Hoarding IP and datasets is what all big tech companies are after now.

>>714131595
There a guy here on /v/ thats always says "the future belongs to nintendo and valve"

>>714106485 (OP)
>Double fine will still release their game
Lol so everyone else is getting the Axe but the one studio whose notorious for running over budget to release nostalgia wannabe comedy slop gets to live?
Oh that is too funny.
>Ninja Theory
I mean they aren't the greatest, but they are far from bad.
>Crystal dynamics stays implying rare will die
I didn't know Crystal Dynamics was still alive. And Rare has sucked since games 360 so whatever.
>Only focus on major franchises

So these aren't layoffs, its reorganization.....
This is fake and gay on so many levels

>>714132404
he's probably right. Nintendo and Valve are very consistent and not reactionary like Microsoft and Sony

i'm honestly so checked out of these that I would be happy to see all the major companies burn

>>714106485 (OP)
>Double Fine
kinda shocking to see them go down like this, but when I think about it, it's not actually shocking

>>714107085
Nor me. Xbox was a console we had cause it was a Halo machine and if you didn't have Halo in school you were a queer.

>>714107298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27rfr59RiE

>>714123447
Don't get your hopes up.

Fuck you micro soft cock
With a BILLION dollar you could've funded
>15-20 AAA games like E33, lies of p, kcd2 and space Marines 2 etc
>100-150 AA GAMES
>Basically infinite amount of indie games with 1-2 milion budget
>Or any combination of those

But nah these faggots can't do any of that because they are incompetent retards with no plans
this is result of corporate greed

>>714130318
>Because steam is the best platform.
digtal only
best
lol

>>714127046
"image" is really not the thing to be concerned about nowadays, certainly not for a giant like fucking microsoft
but as far as not selling shit, it really is just IF I CAN'T HAVE IT NO ONE CAN sort of crash (with no survivors)

>>714133492
Nobody cares about plastic on a shelf bro, it's 2025 unc put the funko collection away

>>714127704
>Bayonetta was literally unplayable on PS3,
I played it on the ps3 fine

>>714133757
think I care about what you brown zoomers think

>>714133979
No, you didn't. It's unplayable therefore you didn't play it.

>>714132497
plumbers will inherit the earth

>>714106986
>imagine peaking day one of your first console

FTFY

>>714113823
>>714114317
>>714119060
What I don't understand is why corpos lead by greedy people continue to make the same shitty games and can't recognize what people want.
Stellar Blade is a mediocre game that sold 3 million copies because Eve is a bombshell. Like you can have your female lead games, just make them hot. They will sell more. Stellar Blade sold more than, I am pretty sure, every single microsoft published game combined other than shit like Call of Duty.

>>714134173
I played saw little loli bayo on my ps3 and it felt the same as mgr fuck I enjoyed bayo a hell of a lot more