TOBY HAD TO MAKE THE BEST CHARACTER OF HIS GAME (SPAMTON) GAY TO NERF HIM
>>714202262We dont like [[Trash Heaps]] in this part of the catalog...
>You're gay now, that's my special attack!
>tries and fails to make another spamton
>makes the real spamton gay
rape temmie chang in front of toby for thag
>>714201681 (OP)Why does this surprise you? Undertale has always been ultrawoke.
>>714205098>rape temmie changsorry im not into prepubescent asians
they were just business partners
>badge on the bunker
yup yup, sans is actually part of the cops and saved toriel from her EVIL child
>>714205631I really hope these stay as inoffensive references and Tobias doesn't try to pull some "multiverse" shit. It's the worst kind of story.
>>714205809>it's raining somewhere else>the place where it rained>right after, sans enterssorry, anon.
>>714202780whirrrr get creamed
>>714205809Its already canon only truly delusional retards like yourself believe otherwise.
>>714205631Couldnโt save Undyne kek
>>714206062>Thing has not happened>IT IS ACTUALLY CANON XDDDYeah, more reason to don't pander to mentally-ill hyper aggressive schizos like yourself. These kinds of references are good and all but you really don't want to target your fandom with it.
>>714206304Toby wouldn't leave a true hero out to pasture. Next time we see her she'll be rocking battle scars with a smile on her face.
...right?
>>714205631Is undertale the bunker's dark world
Finally beat chap 3 & 4 so I can open a thread for the first time. I feel like I missed half the game
>Missed the chap 3 shadow crystal because I thought it would be incorrect to kill the monsters in the video game while on a pacifist route and the door locks when you come back around to it
>Missed half the dialogue in town at the start of chap 4, including returning to castle town, because you're immediately locked into the dark world once you walk near the church
>Found no eggs, no chocolate, no onion
Please tell me the changes are negligible and I didn't miss much
>Toby managed to turn one of the most popular ships into one of the most decisive in one scene
I kneel
>>714207373did you at least get the mantle and the diner scene?
I have a friend who's finally playing undertale for the first time with the steam sale, has anyone got that old meme of flowey shitposting on /v/ saying something like "you can't spare toriel killing her is the only way to get through the game" and grinning
i know one of you lads has this gem tucked away somewhere
>>714207521I did not get the mantle because I didn't complete the video game. The diner scene with Susie I did get
The Knight is Kris' severed hand
>>714205809Sans and alphys literally talk about about alternate universe in undertale
>>714201681 (OP)Yup, I'm thinking Krusie gonna win
>>714201681 (OP)How many times he's going to make freedom leitmotif for players to understand that your choices DO matter and prophecy CAN be broken and Krusie WILL happen?
>>714201681 (OP)Spamton was always a whore.
>POV: You come home after a tiring battle in which you and your friends almost died. It's 2:00 a.m, you're tired and want to sleep.
>>714207373It would be funny if the Pacifist route and the Shadow Crystal route are completely separate.
>>714205631It's obvious Sans was saving Toriel and his teasing for Kris is because he knows the kid is up to no good.
>>714206304>>714207136She's just a cop in Deltarune. Yeah she acclimated pretty fast, but her first enemy encounter was the Knight.
>>714207373>not beating the knight no mantleThe fight's more fun that way
>>714207373Sorry. Kris will backstab Susie in Chapter 7 because you missed the Krusie date.
>>714208269This made sense to me logically until I looked up the chap 3 secret boss after it became clear that I had missed it. It still makes sense to me logically.
>>714208371I thought it was a scripted unbeatable fight
>>714208426I did not miss the Krusie date. Is this /v/'s favorite scene?
Do you have the freedom sauce anon?
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>>714208354She's too good at spear spam to not have seen combat, Undyne is a grizzled veteran of the controversial war on humanity
>>714207839>susie likes everyone equally shipfags are going to get btfo when she friendzones everyone
>>714208819Got a glass full of it on a coaster
>>714208537If you load your save you can keep retrying against the knight, it's very much doable especially with revives and heals.
>>714207839>Kris only reacts to Susie's Tea
>>714207839Noelle's reaction to ralsei tea makes me think he really is just a plush or something similar in the light world and means absolutely nothing to everyone besides Kris and Susie. I was surprised that Tenna even acknowledged him so much, since lots of characters in chapter 2 went out of their way to ignore ralsei altogether
>>714207136>fighting for survival in the bunker is how DR!undyne loses her eye
>>714209058How much can you go back in change within one save file after beating chap 4?
How high were the chances Kris ended up being a school shooter if they didn't have to deal with all the prophecy and dark world and knight bullshit going on
Stop calling every fight that gives you the slightest bit of difficulty harder than sans
>>714209058The sword hallways without the mantle have to be done flawlessly without being hit once
>>714209143Yeah the way Berdly and Noelle regarded him is still very strange
don't forget
kris is a boy (female)
>>714209256Sans is the easiest enemy. Why wouldn't it be harder than him?
Carol final boss confirmed.
>>714209186And most of her hair.
>>714209236Idiot. There's no guns in Deltarune.
>>714201681 (OP)Is Toriel REALLY a terrible mom?
>>714209419if deltarune was peak it would end with (you) pummeling this slut and raping it stupid
>>714209505Not terrible, just not what Kris needs
Wild how Toby got away with Sans, Papyrus, Toriel, Gerson, Undyne ( Papyrus told her), Asgore and Flowey/Asreil know what a human actually is and fucking works with deltarune
>>714209236>How high were the chances Kris ended up being a school shooter if they didn't have to deal with all the prophecy and dark world and knight bullshit going onMorbidly High, given how shit his life was even before (You) arrived. I 100% believe he would had killed someone if he didn't bond with Susie or had (You) possessing him.
>>714208954Susie is clueless about romance. The main thing why Krusie will happen is that Kris interested in Susie and they interact and bond as soulmates, while Noelle has weird obsession over her that is discouraged by Carol and Catti
>>714209615>implying (I) won't Trust the plan, Kris is long overdue for rape correction, the second we get our vessel back it's over
>>714207839>susie likes everyone>noelle REALLY likes susie>kris likes susie more than their old childhood friend>kris doesnโt really like ralsei >noelle and ralsei feel nothing towards each other Sounds about right
YOU LOST IT ANON
YOU LOST IT.
>>714209808What are you trying to say anon
>>714209505Yes
>Mom ditches son.>Son is scared and think she's in danger, searches for her with his friends.>Unable to find her. Walk home in the rain after dark with his friend.>Comes home to see his mom falling over drunk and "dancing" with some literal who who was an ass to them earlier. She met Sans just 2 days ago.>Mom doesn't ask where son was. Was not worried about him being out late. Did not even tell him she was home.>Friend is disturbed by this. Had built up an image of a good caring mother in her head that has now been shattered. Is unable to stick around and goes home.>Mom tells son there's food in the fridge for him.>There isn't it>Is forced to listen to them "dance" (have sex) when he's trying to sleep.>His parents are divorced and he misses his dad btw.
>>714201681 (OP)Please, I am once again begging for somebody, anybody, to post the image with the "vague chapter 3, 4, and 5 spoilers" that accurately predicted the among us stuff in chapter 4 months before it came out. I don't care if it's not actually real, I just didn't save it the first few times I saw it and I've been kicking myself ever since.
>>714207839There's a reason it becomes rotten.
>>714209749>Not terribleLMAO Just look at Kris's room. And the blood stain that she didn't notice is the cherry on top.
>>714210046I get off from waging in 5 hours if nobody posts it by then I've got you
>>714209505Ignoring the sans ntr memes, hanging out with some random you just met and inviting him into your home to drink with is incredibly fucking uncomfortable for a kid, and she didn't give a single fuck. Let alone every other time when she got mad at Kris for stuffing his face/not being as good as his brother. She's objectively a prick.
>>714201681 (OP)Saying it again because I got harassed again: I am a Catholic and my best friend worked on Undertale. I work every day so the legacy of UTDR is ultimately Catholic, befitting it being given to the former Pope. After not getting to join the Homestuck or Undertale teams due to them becoming associated with lgbtq and leftism, I have formed a wide variety of artistic projects featuring horrible monsters for my best friend. You will all be owned. Fuck gays
>>714205202Not true, I will explain the epic heterosexual narrative of the characters my best friend drew soon.
>>714209505>leaves a giant bloodstain on her kid's floor>keeps nasty wet fur in the drains, only cleans it up when she brings a guy over>let a guy eat her kid's dinner>doesn't seem all that concerned that her kid was out all day when the weather turned badIt feels like the theme is casual negligence.
>>714209858She's so clueless that she wing man for Ralsei to get Kris or giving the choice between Noelle and Ralsei at the end of chapter 2. She just thinks no one likes her like that even though Noelle is right there.
>>714210046>>714210046https://vocaroo.com/17VOskFldZq4
>>714209923Undertale:
> most monster donโt know what a human is the ones who do are in 3 categories 1. Literally old enough from the monster human war [asgore, toriel, flowey, Gerson]
2. Was told what a human looks like one way or the other [Undyne by Papyrus, Alphys by human media via garbage]
3. Knows what a human looks like (because theyโre from deltarune) [Sans and Papyrus]
>>714209505>makes no attempts to understand kris>doesnโt bother questioning why thereโs a bloodstain near krisโ bed>openly favors asriel over kris>too busy fucking the town janitor to notice her child was missing for a day
>>714209207What do you mean
Female Kris niggas are the kind of faggots who play Egames where the only way to the scenes are by losing with the female main character
>>714201681 (OP)>character interacts with another character>"THEY'RE FUCKING"
it's being almost a month, how is the first month of WAITing going, anons?
possibly 17 more are coming
>>714201681 (OP)Did you guys felt for the bait? Got bamboozled by red herring cliffhanger and though Toriel gonna get stabbed?
Let me just tell you already which subplots are also fake red herring that Toby fools you into believing
>Carol is not only not evil, she's also not involved with the Knight. Nothing she actually said is suspicious or malicious. Toby tries to make you think she's a mastermind and the Knight>Suselle is not actually wholesome UndynexAlphys 2.0. Toby make you think that, but based on Catti and Carol (who we know is good) her involvement with Susie is actually dangerous>game starts with telling you choices dont matter but its obvious by freedom leitmotif every chapter, that choices will influence the ending and romantic optionsThere are also obvious misdirection shenanigans when it comes to the Prophecy, but theres too many variables to really predict what exactly is being subverted. Very likely that there are 3 heroes and another girl who isn't the hero.
>>714210610The varieties of people who donโt understand friendship, or even any human contact at all, are sad.
>>714209058So who's Sonichu here?
>>714210573https://youtu.be/G0sORVBL4kM?si=yn3wc6HDA2hZzsrh
>>714210665>romantic optionsnigger they're middleschoolers
>>714210665why is she calling kris
>>714210665Asgore being hinted at having a major role seems like the new red herring so far
>>714209505Kind of. She's obviously trying with Kris, and it's clear she does love him, but she doesn't understand him and is a bit on the neglectful side with him. Her bringing Sans home, on it's own, is not a bad thing - she is divorced and lonely, if she wants to move on, she has that right. But if she wanted to spend time with Sans and build something with him, she needed to talk about it with Kris first, because bringing another man into their home is a huge upset for what Kris is used to and he should have been given a chance to voice his concerns about her dating again. Maybe she didn't mean for her little party with Sans to come off as anything romantic, but that's entirely the point: she's not thinking ahead about how her actions affect Kris. She's not a BAD mom, but she's not being a good one, either.
>>714210665Agreed on Carol, sheโs a woman trying to keep her life together while her husband is on deathโs door, her oldest daughter is missing, and her youngest daughter is flirting with the townโs most notorious delinquent. All the while sheโs mayor of a city filled with absolute incompetents on the eve of the biggest festival of the year. Sheโs just stressed, sheโs not some magical malevolent force.
>>714210546The post implied I can reload my save to beat the knight, but I've already completed chapter 4. Can I still go back or would I need a new save?
>>714210046I'm thinking freedom leitmotif will have it's GRAND FINALE in chapter 7 where all the dark crystal owners break the normal route and we enter FREEDOM ROUTE where choice matter
>>714210665Noelle is evil, not Susie. Noelle doesn't deserve someone like Susie.
LGBTQ be like:
>wtf? A friendship based on actually liking each other instead of material gain, social connections, and power in society?
>This is SO GAY! The gayest thing ever!
>>714210818>he never experienced teen lovei'm terribly sorry for you
>>714210818Good thing they're aren't. They're highschoolers.
>>714211004I fucking hate how common this mind set is
>>714201681 (OP)Did I miss something or is OP just headcanoning things like the faggot he is?
>>714210906not being a gud mom is being a bad mom
>>714210906>But if she wanted to spend time with Sans and build something with him, she needed to talk about it with Kris first, because bringing another man into their home is a huge upset for what Kris is used to and he should have been given a chance to voice his concerns about her dating again.lmao imagine letting a fucking teenager decide whether or not you date. pure reddit
>"They are minors!!"
>Teens are the prime age for experimenting with love and sex
>Act surprised that hormanl teens are acting like hormonal teens WHILE the one acting surprised is most likely a hormonal teen
The internet just makes people stupid
>>714209615you fell into his trap
she is going to be raping (you)
>>714205809Anon, you're way too late for that. The DELTA RUNE is in Undertale and an NPC asks you if you've ever met "Suzy." Sans goes to Grillby's before dying in Undertale's G route and he appears in Deltarune having just moved into town with Grillby's but he crossed out the name.
>>714210596only retarded nips like loss scene h-games
i enjoy the ones with pregnancy mechanics myself
>>714210847He's an old friend who often went to Holidays to play piano, obviously Carol would like him and for him to help Noelle with Dess cope
>>714210818the shipping still will happen, even one sided Suselle is still romance, and Toby literally implememented teases into the game
>>714210851Red herring is him being involved as a bad guy with dark crystal, but its more likely he work with the Knight rather than Carol
>>714210954Yeah, making her act like she's just homophobic who hate Susie and with nefarious comments to Kris was TOO MUCH of a red herring, especially with katanas on the wall.
>>714210906>Her bringing Sans home, on it's own, is not a bad thing - she is divorced and lonely, if she wants to move on, she has that rightTell 'em, sister! WOMEN ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN!
>>714211268Post tits slut
>>714210973It implies chapter 6 has some freedom route intro. "The air crackles with freedom" is the closest it get to breaking the prophecy. Especially with "puppet being release"
>>714210628somehow it doesn't feel as bad as with ch2, probably because we have a rough release date instead of near radio silence for a year until the sweepstakes, and then nearly three more years of waiting
>>714210957Loading the completed chapter 3 save lets you instantly refight the knight if you die. If you don't wanna replay chapter 4 I think you can get the crystal from the cliff in Castle Town in chapter 4 after beating her.
>>714210998She's not evil, but she's messed up. We didn't notice, because we think Toby is just making some "spank me daddy" jokes where Noelle is being comically masochistic over Susie
>>714209505>>714210906She's not a mother, she's a whore. She's literally fucking a stranger she's only known for two days. As soon as Kris disappeared from the house, she started boozing and fucking.
>>714211661I need more sufferkino
The "tail of hell" is the bead toy at the hospital.
Icing Berdley will stop the tail.
>>714211562GoR is almost always so garbage
>Lose to see a scene>It's actually harder to lose than win>Add an auto-lose button to remove tedium>Losing now has no weight because you can just do it yourself any timealso based spoiler, those are always heavily underused
>>714210973Thanks anon, I've been asking for this in the last like...3 threads in a row and I had almost started to gaslight myself into thinking it wasn't real.
>>714211838What did Kris say to make Susie run off crying like that?
>>714211004LGBTQ
>real love is being lesbians, doesnt matter if it's toxic, abusive, sister complex etc
>>714211565Anon stop being retarded. Expecting anyone, man or woman, to simply not date after a divorce is unrealistic. I didn't say she should act like a fucking slut, I said that taking the first steps towards finding someone new is not the problem - the problem is that she's ignoring the emotional wellbeing of her son by not talking about it with him.
"Flower man trapped in asylum" is referring to the fact that Asgore is mentally stuck in the past.
>>714211757I wish I could be that neighbor.
I love the tiny detail that Kris and Susie presumably have no clue what their school project is supposed to be about. I couldn't imagine it any other way.
>>714211835>If you don't wanna replay chapter 4 I think you can get the crystal from the cliff in Castle Town in chapter 4 after beating her.What? You can just fight bosses on previous save files and get the crystal? No way
>>714201681 (OP)You can still fuck the tv in your own dark world, he'll be simping for you
>>714210973>Noelle gets wingsShe finally breaks, huh? I just hope its ME cucking her with Susie what triggers her schizo phase
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>>714212041either he agreed with her and that spooked her because she was bullying another unwanted kid, or she was already crying and kris pointed that out
either way i think it directly leads into susie meeting toriel on at the bench, it fits too well for it not to be what toby was going for
why are they like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA
>>714201681 (OP)>acting surprised that the two tumblr sexy men were gay for each otherTricky Tony knows what heโs doing
>>714209505No, most anons on /v/ have mommy issues and are being hyperbolic.
>>714212013Post my special MAD alert if you need something, I try to keep screencaps of schizotheories.
>>714212152You are tasked with getting this dragon thing an A, what do (You) do a project on?
>>714212081>I didn't say she should act like a fucking slutThat's exactly what she's doing though. She's only known Sans for 2 days. She literally jumps on a stranger's cock. But that's not surprising since Rudy said that Toriel was a party whore back then.
>>714210973This HAS to be Toby right? Hasn't he posted on /v/ before?
>>714211835Can you access castle town from the end of chapter 4? The school was locked.
>>714205809i will only accept it if sans deltarune doesn't get sent to undertale
i just can't see how that can be pulled off in a satisfying way
>the ending reveals how Sans connects the timeline between Undertale and Deltarune but Deltarune is the sequel
How do you make it work?
>>714212354the best ways to commit crimes and eat moss
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>>714212436>"Heh, Kris, your mom is such a slut... One time at a party, she got so drunk she blew literally every man she could get her big hands on! Whoo, man! Good times!"
>>714212278i love the knight cups niggas like you wouldn't believe
those are my homies
>>714212457I don't see how else these would be so accurate.
He definitely posted on 4chan but not under his own handle obviously.
>>714212041"True"
He always answers things briefly and it's the most effective way to make Susie realize she said something she shouldn't have.
>>714209419I respect you, FemKrisbro. Even if I disagree.
>>714212556>"Yeah Kris she was a whore with a capital H! Do you know what a butt chug is Kris? No? Well one time I saw your mother butt chug a whole keg, before that I only saw a pledge take six! Anyways she went ballistic, stripped down to her skivvies and sprinted out on the campus. Once she started streaking campus police couldn't stop her so they had to call the REAL cops... Anyways, that's how she met your father!"
>>714212041"Is that what your parents did to you?"
>>714212501No.
You can reload your save file and a path to the castle town will appear, but most of it will be blocked off.
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Monster souls aren't supposed to be upside-down. The "monsters" in Undertale are just darkners and that's why their hearts are inverted.
Actual monster souls like Susie would have their hearts rightside up.
>>714212789I'm gonna say it.
The threesome subplot was highly unnecessary.
>>714212737>retcons it like how it was retconned monster could bleed in deltarune but couldn't in undertale
Noelle is a bitch she clearly fetishizes Susie
Toriel is whoring again....
>>714212830thats anything involving Rouxls
>>714212920That whole character could have been an email.
>>714212191Yeah Seam has dialogue that hints at it in chapter 2.
>>714212436>She literally jumps on a stranger's cock.no she literally doesn't, she makes stupid puns with Sans until Susie tells them to shut up
>>714212457The way Toby is based with memes but not vulgar is also making me think he actually posted it
>>714212830The Roulxs shit is bordering on undertale Alphys levels of forced at this point. He was fun during the first two chapters if only because he was brief.
>>714209419How fucking DARE YOU!!!!
Yes I headcanon Noelle as trans, yes I headcanon Susie as a pansexual queer lesbian who cuts herself, but how DARE YOU misgender Kris!!
How would (You) react if she ends up with Ralsei?
>>714212830come on dude it was funny
also Rouxls is a based retard
>>714212830honestly i thought it was rouxls' funniest bit
it also helps that he doesn't overstay his welcome
star walker at the end of it sent me
>>714212705But enough to where the chap 3 shadow crystal can be obtained? I might try that then, it's the only major thing I'm missing unless there are eggs or anything else I don't know about
>>714213094erm, male and female are sex, not gender
you can't choose or change those
>>714213095well considering neither susie or kris has a dick, someone needs to be able to give them kids
may as well be the fluffy boy
>Rouxls
>Could potentially break the game mechanics with his "The Rules" shit
>He's too dumb to exploit it
I'm telling you guys he is going to be vital in chapter 5 or in the 4th wall game breaking moments
>>714213095She should become a lot more closer to him in the later chapters in that case instead of clarifying that he's just a friend all the time or shipping him with Kris like she does in ch1 (if you build the thrash machine as the kiss model) and ch3.
>>714213146>it also helps that he doesn't overstay his welcomefunny cause Chapter 3 is where he's at his most prevalent
>>714213181No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj7KptqLWMA
If this mechanic works though, it should be there in chapter 5. Definitely get the shadow crystals.
I hope the eggs don't lock you out of some very good shit because I missed a few
>>714213095Iโd kneel as both krusie and susellefags go ballistic over getting cucked by the twink gote
>>714213039>no she literally doesn't, she makes stupid puns withTell me why their voices are speeding up. And why are the sounds of their words so short? It sounds more like short moans. They're two drunk adults. They're obviously fucking. Toby knew what he was doing with that scene. He's the King of Ero Games after all.
>>714213095Like how? She would walk around in Lightner world with a plushie? Also her giving him a noogie was very symbolic for littlebrother zoning him like Lancer. There also too much pity party over him with the room furnitures, tea part and wanting him to get friends on the festival. It also doesn't have anime surprise shipping moments like pic related
>>714210973If this is real I would bet money on the reveal that Ralsei is the headband/Krisโ monstersona being the focus of chapter 6. It would mean that the party has (in some sense) really only consisted of Susie and Kris the entire time. That Krisโs growing affection for Ralsei is indicative of his personal growth and ability to love himself. That Ralseiโs personality is the kind of person Kris always was but could never express, or was perhaps smothered by whatever trauma he dealt with in art therapy. That Susieโs kindness and gentleness to Ralsei is a sort of tangential softness towards Kris, the only other person in her life who can relate with her isolation.
>>714213039>puns are a play on words where they mean two things at once>making puns is the same as making sex, making the very puns themselves puns
>>714209419How would you react if Toby revealed that kris was just a girl who called herself โnon-binaryโ
>>714210973This is BS BTW.
Rouxls SUCKS
I HATE HIM
You could remove him and the game becomes better
>>714212829On the corner brodie
>>714211358Only xitter troons care about the ages of drawings.
>>714213095Honestly sad because that would only happen out of grief and anger that Kris and Noelle are hiding things from her, and she picks the dude who outright tells her he isn't real because a fantasy is better than her reality.
>>714211835This doesn't work for the Knight's crystal.
>>714213685Don't know how I missed that
>>714213608i'd be cool with it
although preferably the whole 'non'binary' thing would stem from toriel not understanding humans and not from kris caring about pronouns of all things
Newfag playing through the first time, kinda surprised that I see so much stuff about (you) being some evil bastard that ruined Kris' life on other sites and shit
Have niggas been operating under that take for years? lmao
>>714213463Sounds like it'd be better to just let it play out and decide once it's all said and done
>>714213039Are you 10 years old? It's a T-rated game. Of course he can't show them fucking. Do you know what an allegory is? They're fucking.
>>714212830It's foreshadowing, (we) are getting a battle throuple, Kris fulfilling the role of guy nobody likes
>>714213095As hard as I try, I can't imagine any chemistry between them. Feels like trying to hook up Rouge the bat with Tails. There is just no good complementing traits between them.
>>714213873Because they either self identity with Kris or hate themselves. These are also the first people who would get rid of meta stuff from Toby's games if they could which defeats the purpose.
>>714213095It would be based even if Krusie is better.
>>714212830It's foreshadowing for how the Sans/Asgore/Toriel subplot will resolve.
Namely that Toriel will get annoyed with Sans and rejoin Asgore, and then they both accept Starwalker
>>714213590We can go further and just make it that Kris is actually hallucinating everything, and that he's just a human in human world lying in the hospital and that Susie and Noelle don't actually exist, and he's recovering after his parents divorce
>>714213873This fanbase is retarded. Ignore them.
>>714213095I feel like it's basically impossible because Ralsei won't survive to the end, but even if he was going to I don't really get why people think their relationship is anything more than good friends.
>>714213983I like the metaslop, but my favorite part is that you can interpret it both being allegorical or literal. It works on both ends.
Who was Ralsei talking to here
Is fluffy boy going to have a happy ending or not?
>>714214060Toby would be so based if true.
>>714214374you, the player (gay)
>>714214141I think making the connection that Ralsei must be an object of tremendous importance to someone to manifest so clearly in the fantasy dark worlds isnโt a stretch. Itโs like not seeing the parallels between Queen/Carol. The idea that the trips into fantasy are in effect a form of therapy for the characters isnโt even subtext, itโs the whole theme. Kris having a difficult to discern personality thatโs actually expressed through another character isnโt the same as โthey were dead the whole timeโ.
>>714214141>It was all in le headToby isn't a cheap writer.
>>714214374Doctor WD Gaster
>>714214397>dumbass ralsei stared at the sun directly midday
>>714213608>Toby self insert as Kris>Kris sleep in shared brother's room where its against norms for girls ti sleep in male bedroom>all of his costumes are male>his prophecy icon is male with male hipsHe's a man, stop coping with your troon fetishes.
>>714213541Anyone else notice this?
>>714213873To be half the fanbase is now shitposting about (YOU) trying to get kris laid and kris being a lil shit about it. The other half is playing snowgrave where you actually are ruining krisโ life for the funnie
>>714211838I love edgelord Kris. The "I'm not a dream" line was also great.
>>714214397Infinite suffering for the goat!
>>714214679In the game files this sprite is called "KNIGHT_SLASH"
>>714212041"You're crying."
>>714214608>Kris sleep in shared brother's room where its against norms for girls to sleep in male bedroomWould it really shock you if toriel made her adopted daughter sleep with her brother (especially since they donโt HAVE a spare room)
>>714214491Yet he refuses to monetize the main 3 characters, as if they are tied to some trauma
>>714214631waddahell, why did he go all gooner there
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>>714214397FFTY.
Someone probably should've warned him
>>714212278This reminds me of the Sprout Mole village from Omori.
And it's not only the cops that remind me of sprout moles, but the music too.
When I first heard that jingle at 00:26 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA I immediately thought of a similar jingle in the Sprout Mole village theme:
check 00:26 in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zha0Yb126o
>>714212041>youโre crying>I know>wouldnโt be the first >like you?
>>714214608kris being anyone's self insert goes against what kris is all about, this includes toby
toriel cannot into humans, and kris wears asriel's old clothing because toriel can't be bother to buy stuff for kris
ralsei's prophecy is inaccurate, you can also argue that susie looks male as well
how is kris being female a troon fetish? she's not mtf, she's just kris but female
>>714214862Like 3 and a half to get through chapter 1.
Haven't played any today.
t. newtard
>"Stay away from my daughter you filthy fucking Dyke!"
Jesus Toby...
>>714205631>>714212515>>714212540Sans Undertale being from Deltarune is a pretty obvious misdirect. Sans in Undertale does come from a DR-esque world, but the Sans we see in Deltarune comes from UT.
>He is "new" in town>He winks when he says he has no idea who (You) are>His story is literally just Grillby's>He doesn't know who Toriel is in Undertale, but that's obviously not the case in DR>If he barely knows any of these people (as he is new in town), why does he try so hard to go back? Also, wouldn't Frisk recognize, say, Toriel in the picture?Always remember Sans is the character most closely related to Gaster. Whatever reason Gaster had to bring (You) to the world of DR, likely also attracted Sans. Hell, they might be working together somehow.
>>714214862Like 27 hours or something
>>714215049Heck took you so long
>>714214060Does this mean Elnina's a whore
>>714214801Kids normaly dress up and change clothes from pajamas and are naked in the morning. Its the main reason sibling of different gender don't want to share the room. Toriel would sooner make Asriel sleep on the couch
>>714215070Mine's over 30, there's a lot to read and shit
>>714214989deltarune will never have homophobic slurs, toby hates those
it would be more accurate for carol to call susie a drigger, since toby is cool with racism
>>714207839Fun fact. There's code that changes Kris drinking Ralsei's tea to 100 if you tell him it's okay not to smile.
>>714214948>"Like you?"That one goes way too hard, I feel like Susie would actually throw hands over that.
>>714215070Mostly having the game in the background while I do other things. That and throwing myself into the brick wall of secret bosses
>>714214950You will never be a woman and neither will Kris. If you want to self insert as a girl then play Baldur Gate 3 and fulfill your fetish
What did Carol Holiday mean by that?
>>714212354Mating compatibility between monsters and humans
>>714209505Not really. She obviously loves Kris, but she fails at understanding him at a fundamental level and instead of working on connecting with her son she just coddles him to try to make up for the issues he has.
My stance might change depending on what happens in the morning of Chapter 5. If this bitch lets Sans do whatever the fuck in their house then abandoning team Toriel.
>>714215171Maybe โyou too, huh?โ Would be better
>>714215206That Kris is a friend of the family and that Carol might as well be his second mom?
>>714215206She wants (Our) hot, throbbing [HeartShapedObject]
I loved intruding into Kris's private life by forcing them to return to art therapy and get me an egg.
I will love even more when I can discard Kris like a used condom and use my CUTE vessel!!
Did you guys replay chapter 4 and memorized the piano puzzles?
>>714207839I agree with Toby that this was a dumb idea to implement in Deltarune
>>714212830It single handedly gave renewed strength to the Noelle/Kris/Susie and Ralsei/Kris/Susie shippers.
>>714215330I've never seen this but I've seen when Kris gets pissy we memorise the piano piece and fucks the second to last note up
>>714215070>>714214862Mine's almost 37 hours. And this is after replaying chapter 3 and 4 and only taking like 3 tries for the mantle and 1 for the knight. The knight originally took me a whole day.
>>714215330Wrote them down, Kris is a faggot for not letting me do the big one on my own
Reminder: Love Triangle plots fucking SUCK AAAAAAAAAAASSSS
>>714215203i don't want to be a woman, and imagine thinking that toby will ever confirm kris one way or the other
stop thinking about trannies, it's bad for your health
>>714214948>I knowI feel that'd be the most interesting, and it's not unlikely considering that it's seeming that Toriel never cared that much for Kris
>>714214862Mine's 19 hours
>>714215423I'm angry there's no reward for doing the piano segment flawlessly, instead Kris always fucks it up at the end without even any unique dialogue as a result
>>714214867he gets sick when you make him kill 8-bit susie and ralsei
>kris would rather let (YOU) mindrape their childhood friend than just rip you out and reveal your existence to Noelle
What the fuck does kris need you for to keep you a secret?
>>714215330I replayed it but of course I only did the puzzles after discovering the solution again in the playthrough. I enjoy playing the game, so it's not like I want to check my old notes get it over with.
>>714214989It such an obvious misdirection. Like literally Suselle being coded as another Undyne/Alphys is such a win for Toby when he trigger the explosion and take majority of fandom by surprise.
There is no way he would make Susie another Undyne. he is fucking with shipper's expectations.
>>714215361When did he say that?
>>714215484You don't have to be a woman, just say that your vessel is a guy with a fat cock.
Mine likes the color green
How old are Asriel and Dess anyway? are they still early adulthood or they are closer to their 30s? I'm not entirely sure, they clearly are in their 20s
>>714215526>>714215146That seems like it would've been so cool only for him to cut it out because it'd be "too much work"
Come on man...
>>714215586to seal the final fountain after he and carol cause the roaring to get dess back
>>714215146>100>while Kris already has Susie on 120 in chapter 2weak power level
>>714215676Early 20s.They're not that much older than Kris or Noelle.
>>714213095Not much of a surprise since Ralsei ask you to bring her "ice cream" when you talk to him in Chapter 4 instead of closing your eyes
>>714210818I don't know why but for some reason one of the easiest and fastest ways to troll my to death is people saying characters are way younger than they actually are.
One of the classmates is a god damn waitress they cannot be a single year younger than 16. Kris probably has his learner's permit at minimum considering all the jokes about him driving something in the light world.
>>714215676Assuming he went to college immediately after high school he could be anything from 19 to 24.
Dess would be the same age but dead kids don't age.
As soon as (we) get used up Kris is gonna turn that knife on (us)
>>714215725>Noelle at 70Kris hates that bitch kek
>>714215206People should replay chapter 4 and mentally replace her "mischevious evil face" with happy Catty face and you will notice how much it change the entire dynamic. She is too also a big misdirection from Toby to fuck with expectations
>>714215482This is why they poke fun at it with this
>>714215829For how long has she being missing anyway?
>>714215586I mean would anyone actually believe him if he said he was being possessed?
>>714213094Yeah, I feel like that's the actual core of the pushback on the 'nonbinary Kris' thing. It's not just that it's weird gender shit, it's that it's weird gender shit you MUST AGREE WITH OR YOU ARE A BIGGIOT WHO MUST EXILE YOURSELF TO SIBERIA.
Look, I've always been of the stance that "mental gender" is quack science founded on faulty data and serial child abuse, so I am kind of naturally predisposed to think the entire thing is dumb. But I'm also not your fucking dad, and neither is anyone else in this retarded fanbase. If you want to take an angle of interpretation on a deliberately ambiguous character, that should be your right.
But that doesn't mean you suddenly have the authority to go around demanding things always be done your way or else.
And what do you know, that's exactly what is being done. See entire accounts solely dedicated to threatening people on Xitter over this. See the Wikipedia article nonsense. See that cringy subversion shit where they feel the need to slip it into unrelated discussions/fanworks so they can virtue signal and then act like a victim if someone is bothered by it.
>>714215676asriel is college aged now and the way he's talked about, he's probably in his first or just began his second year so between 19 - 21, dess disappeared god knows how long ago, she could've disappeared when she was younger than kris and susie are now for all we know
a lot of people's perspective on them has been warped by fanart pushing their ages up for shipping behaviour even when set prior to dess's disappearance
>>714215858(I) TANKED Kris's impotent trashcan melty that knife won't even scratch me
Is Sans fucking Toriel worse for male Kris or female Kris?
>People still learned nothing from all the Friend inside me/Mike/Knight bullshit
>They still don't accept that the story isn't as deep as their schizo theories make it out to be
One day you'll learn.
>>7142159187 years based on what berdly says about her book being overdue
That's long enough for the age gap to not be weird for Kris to date her
>>714216009Oyakodon for both
>>714215859He is distant after Dess shit. Noelle on the other hand became a crazy bitch wanting to fuck a bully that openly use physical violence on Kris instead of telling Alphys in order to save her childhood friend
What was your reaction to this scene?
>>714215985Dess was at the very least, old enough to make band concerts, so she possibly could have being older than even Asriel
>>714215146Surely Kris' tea reactions would change regardless of the choice (You) made there, unless Kris' tea reactions have always been the soul and not him...
>>714216009Male Kris, a young man seeing his mother slutting it up is absolutely devastating psychologically.
>>714216050well what do YOU think the story is smart guy?
>>714215985TBF, toby implied that dessriel were fucking with the sweater and retainer in her room, and implied that they were doing the weed.
>>714216089smile and optimism, gone.
>>714215206>husband on deathbed>recently divorced himbo housekeepershe wants to be nice to kris so she can monkey branch on to asgore if/when rudy dies
>>714216089Didn't think much of it, sans and Toriel being a thing has been implied ever since the date with sans in Undertale.
>>714216056that was asriel's book retard
A lot of people seems to think Asriel will be a chill dude when returning but what if instead he was a lot worse and does a complete crash out?
>>714216105Kris adjust to YOUR choices and take it as his own. This is why he protests when you say that you will never play piano or that you can't play instruments or when you say you will go with Berdly to the festival
>>714216089It's bad, but I am sick of the circlejerk surrounding, it's getting old.
>>714216254I would suck his dick right away
>>714215985>Dess probably disappeared at age 12-14, when Kris was at most 7I don't think Desscels can recover from that one.
>>714215970Its so common now for youtube comments to be talking about Kris and says he, then some commenter ineveitably goes *Kris' pronouns are they/them"
Then either the original commenter pathetically apologizes, or the whole comment chain gets derailed with everyone (justifiably) getting pissed off by the woke warrior's comment
I definitely feel like there's a lot less tolerance for this than there was back in the day. Everyone was expected to call Kris they back for chapter 1 but now it's kinda 50/50
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When are artists drawing more Monster Kid cockvore art?
>>714205809>I really hope these stay as inoffensive references and Tobias doesn't try to pull some "multiverse" shitWhy do you think Undertale was such an magnet for AUtism in the first place?
>>714215206>use katanas to slice cakes>obsessed over christmas accessories and christmas carolsShe's just a quirky lady being framed as malicious by Toby. Nothing to see here.
>>714216089you been asking the same question for 4 weeks now and the answer is always the same
this shit is fucked
>>714207637Very late response, but this one?
>>714215326We LOVE cute Vessels.
>>714216009my doujins tell me that femkris would be more affected by asgore being ultra cucked all the time
>>714209505She's not as overbearing as her Undertale version was with Frisk. But at the same time, she's very hands-off like a typical RPG protagonist's mother.
She doesn't seem too concerned with her kid having a knife and didn't notice the bloodstain near the bird cage in Kris's room.
Asgore being a mediocre dad is also apparent; seems like he doesn't make too much of an effort to directly go to Kris. They just meet up by chance.
>>714216415I don't know, maybe they're gay or something?
>>714213095Unfathomably based
>>714201681 (OP)I don't think people fully grasp the significance of this page and of the implications in placing a part of (You) in Noelle.
Chapter 1 has not applicable, but why is even it there in the first place if it's entirely unapplicable?
Chapter 3 is "not applicable but..." if you hold left. Is this implying going back to it later? There is a cut Shadow Crystal description describing "Undyne frozen in a block of ice."
This is the reason I mention this is placing a part of (You) in Noelle
People think it strictly confers control, but it has far greater meaning considering save points and being able to read other character's thoughts.
What's stopping you from completely ensnaring her in the same manner as Kris and dragging her to previous chapters to break the game??? Nothing in 3 is outright Snowgrave, everything there is the same between both routes outside of some Eram dialogue about Kris enjoying what you two are doing.
>>714215012why would Sans leave his perfectly happy end of UT?
>>714216089>Huh, this is the most animated I've ever seen Sans and Toriel's sprites
>>714209505Absolutelly not, she's loving and actually seems accepting of Kris and his quirks even if she doesn't fully understand him.
I don't understand people bringing up the bedroom, either, it's not her fault Kris refuses to decorate.
>>714212847It was stated in undertale but never stated in deltarune, making sans bleeding at the end of a genocide route insane
>>714215676Asriel seems to around Burgerpants age, who was 19 in Undertale.
>>714216050Friend inside WILL be vindicated in chapter 5
>>714214631I really think they were just lazy and didn't update the sprite colors for the TV glare in every scenario. These sprites are used when you kill miniRalsei and miniSusie, and that place has a brighter screen to justify this brighter face color.
What is the Angelโs desire?
>>714216254There's many hints at resentment for Asriel, from the way Kris bedroom is empty to how Susie is elevating Kris above his brother. Giving his belonging to Kris, encouraging Kris stealing money from him, in church calling Kris the "cooler brother".
Feels like how kids defended Eddy from Eddy's brother. Asriel might be either an asshole or in bad terms with Kris
>>714216593after chapter 8 the timelooping will start and the entire story will change based on your decisions. but the twist is that the story will still end the exact same way each time no matter what.
>>714205098If you take the ultimate meme yuppie as part of the inspiration for Spamton, then him being a bit of a fucking homo underneath it all wouldnโt surprise you.
>>714216593Something is also leading me to a loop conclusion, the prophecy room in Sanctuary 3.
It repeats myriad pictures in different positions over and over as if unending. Every panel all together in a collage repeated.
The room with "The Girl Finding Love" is also coded to be completely random. You can have multiple hearts or just 1 in a random order.
>>714216593>Nothing in 3 is outright SnowgraveThat is a good point I hadn't really considered. Everyone figured the 3 being big but hidden just meant "the lengthy minigame where you kill everyone... in zelda" but that doesn't really count as an actual weird route
>>714210973>people still keep posting this when the majority of chapter 3 and 4 is wrong>theres no purple soul fight>ralsei isnt sus>theres no rook or bishop>knight isnt even near chapter 3
>>714216781Finishing Deltarune and turning the game off condemning the lightners to non-existence
>>714216593Chapter 3 is "not applicable but..." if you hold left. Is this implying going back to it later?
Kino theory but it seems more likely that it's supposed to reference the sword route
>not really a wierd route but teaches you how to do it>pretty big part of the chapter otherwise>holding left is a reference to holding left to force little kris back on screen to spook kris
>>714216514Bro don't post art like that I'm not even bricked up I'm bouldered up bro
>>714216593>placing a part of (You) in Noelle.It was a rape metaphor but we did not literally impregnate Noelle with a piece of the SOUL
The red dot is just her finger bleeding after we penetrated it with the ThornRing
>>714216089>Wow, people are really going to be mad at this LMAO.
>>714210665>>Carol is not only not evil, she's also not involved with the Knight. Nothing she actually said is suspicious or maliciousShe tells you to go to the church tonight, which is where the knight is. She also calls Undyne a sacrifice.
>her involvement with Susie is actually dangerousThey might be destined to kill each other or something. In the prophecy, right before the end, one of the triangles and the "angel" in the Delta Rune are cleaved and falling away.
>>game starts with telling you choices dont matter but its obvious by freedom leitmotif every chapter, that choices will influence the endingIt's most likely in reference to the prophecy being set in stone. But like with every single story ever with a prophecy, it can be "misinterpreted."
>>714210818Kids don't typically become depressed and rebellious until after puberty ends.
>>714215676Assuming Burgerpants is the same age in both games, they'd be 19. Asriel went off to college and hasn't come back yet, so he's at least 18.
>>714215958I mean if he yanked his soul out and it just scurried away then yeah maybe
What would be the most kino shock plot twist to happen?
>>714216089Combination of:
>I should feel bad but this is fucking hilarious, poor Asgoreand
>damn I really wanna hear Dummy! again
>>714216951triple agent kris and he's been /ourguy/ all along
>>714216882>so mad Toby posted spoilers and retconned your shizo theory
>>714216820i think it's just that everybody always compared asriel favourably to kris, and then here's susie doing the opposite for once
i don't think asriel and kris are on bad terms, and if kris does resent asriel in any way it's probably a major source of self loathing
>>714216820I don't think so, Kris actually do think very kindly of Asriel, but my guess is that he actually left the house during a very bad conflict and in a very bad mood, probably the same event that left Tenna traumatized and finalized the divorce.
Something happened.
>>714216865Clearly "The Girl That Finds Love" is applicable to both Noelle and Susie, but something to consider is the impact of Noelle instead of Susie.
Susie would just reset time with the power of the SOUL, this is already hinted by a cut opening and her dialogue about an unending story.
What would Noelle do though? Would she use the meta knowledge to peel back layers and change things? It seems that you would be able to control her, right? Use her to change what was set in stone in previous chapters?
>>714216686No, the cowboy will be the Yellow Flower instead.
>>714216050There is no Knight bullshit.
Mike is a result of people misinterpreting a joke.
Friend is clearly something between Gaster and Flowey. It's probably Seam's stuffing and either working for or against him.
>>714216534Personally I got a sense that Kris has a stronger sense of connection with Asgore than Toriel, but isn't really able to connect with him much anymore due to the divorce. Sure, Asgore doesn't constantly try to spend time with 'em, but between Kris being in the custody of his ex-wife and being a late(?) teen on top of that, a degree of estrangement is kind of expected.
We'll have to see come Chapter 5 though.
>>714217114This leads me to notice 2 other things, chapter skip stars that appear after beating them once. This is deliberate, Toby is prepared for you to skip around and replay chapters at key points to do different things. The question will be what you do, and the significance in or out of Snowgrave.
>>714216942>She tells you to go to the church tonight, which is where the knight is. She also calls Undyne a sacrifice.literally not. Shadow voice is not Carol. She doesn't use this voice when speaking with Kris in Snowgrave route. Stop falling for fucking basic baits like a tourist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D7ySqmpXko
>>714217182Toby's gotta reference UTY in some way when he does the flower shop chapter
>>714216926Gooner Vessel Goon.
>>714216820Kris prays for Asriel at the church in a monotone voice that Susie notices, which makes me believe that itโs one of the few times we hear THEM speaking and not us. I canโt imagine thatโs indicative of resentment.
>>714216534>she's very hands-off like a typical RPG protagonist's motherI'm pretty sure typical RPG protag mothers are either dead or at least well aware their child is the hero. Plus for what Toriel knows it's an almost normal world not an RPG from her perspective if you're comparing it to some FF/DQ or Pokemon like games.
>>714217269And the second thing is this cheeky little fucker knowing that you are unfamiliar with this place after creating a new save without previous save data on Chapter 4. I fully expect save hopping to be a feature at this rate with grave and hopeful implications.
>>714216951Asriel bringing home a human girlfriend from college. She takes one look at Kris and is visibly unnerved since humans don't have red eyes and don't move or sound like that.
Maybe the story plays around with the notion of "humans have souls, but Kris never did..so what IS Kris?" after that.
>>714217340Toriel in Undertale is so neglectful her children go through with a suicide pact without her realizing it.
>>714217414Lastly, the schizo map during Jackenstein has multiple paths with cut off entrances and skip sequences between the pictures. Toby could be fucking with us again but these symbols are super on the nose.
>>714216882Bishop is Titan.
>>714216050When people started relating โFriend Inside Meโ to Deltarune I thought it was about info we already knew, aka (You) living inside Kris, and that people were just doing it as a joke.
who the fuck keeps a katana in their kitchen
>>714216457Holy shit what an absolute boy, thanks mate appreciate it
>>714213095I'd be fine with it, I already have Noelle.
>>714217486Should've just poisoned the pies and send the souls to Asgore.
>>714215206I genuinely would not be surprised if it Carol cared more for Krisโ wellbeing than Toriel at this point even if for selfish reasons
>>714217472>Asriel bringing home a human girlfriend from college.Based!
>That nigga Rudy banged a bitch like Carol
>He had TWO KIDS with her
How did he do it?
>>714217549Not feeling much like a friend of Kris honestly. Its just Ralsei and Susie for us.
>>714217576I have a viking sword in my kitchen that I use to cut watermelon
>>714216089>Huh, good for themand then
>Asgore is going to kill Sans next chapterI had no idea it would turn into a neverending shitstorm
>>714217704he was funny
you'd be surprised how easy that makes things for a couple
>>714212041Also feel that "I know" works the best.
>>714217714>ralseiyeah, a great friend talking behind our back about us
>>714217531I don't have more gooner vessels but I do have gray Frisk.
>>714217513Actually 1 last thing, item descriptions and variables. I already mentioned the cut "Undyne in a block of ice" dialogue from the Shadow Crystal.
What I now want to draw attention to is the myriad variables and "cut half" of the game that has a ton of Noelle item dialogue and weapon descriptions.
She recognizes unused items and has descriptions for everything in chapters she doesn't even appear in at this point. I don't think this is just for a one time reappearance later. Recognizing unused meta items has huge implications too.
My final ultimate schizo theory is that a different side of the game is being made in parallel with what we have now and the entire game and all its variable triggers will be connected with the final update. NG+ or chapter hopping with different character compositions.
>>714216089Was thinking a) this will give the annoying shippers a field day, b) why is sans here wait is that wine? is she drinking? c) this bitch is getting drunk whilst her weird autistic monkey child is out unsupervised in the dark, d) if i get an opportunity to kill sans i'm taking it regardless of any consequences i'm so bored of this cunt
>>714217576It was a gift from the Ketsukanes
>>714217704If noelle's dad didn't get sick with that illness and Carol's work as the mayor I guarantee you noelle would have like 2 or 3 younger siblings
>>714217114So, what, we have three timeloopers in Kris, Noelle and Susie?
To be honest, Chapter 1 changes due to Susie loop could be interesting since Ralsei is NOT in the loop, so there would be 2 variants: OG Chapter 1 where Susie blows off Ralsei, and Timeloop Susie who would treat him like before she looped, except Chapter 1 Ralsei has never met Susie so their dynamic might be different
Honestly I think Susie would be really heartbroken if Kris/player is given options to pretend to not remember her either, Susie having to think her choice of looping the timeline has cost her the relationship she originally had with Kris and she has to build it all from scratch again would be a big oof
>>714217859You mean like he does with Susie or does she not count even when people pair the two?
>>714217704He bagged the baddest bitch by being nice and funny
>>714216050I'm currently batting 90% accuracy with my predictions. So I'll keep schizo posting. Shame i don't have a youtube channel.
>>714216929>rape metaphorI can't help but fucking roll my eyes at this now.
I wonder if Noelle will have any more unique expressions for Snowgrave
>>714217114Now that's interesting!
>>714216089>These Toriel sprites are cute>She's kind of a shit mother though huh
>>714217107I could absolutely see him storming off to leave town if he was already 18 when the entire thing went down, but I'm not sure the timeline works properly.
Regardless of how he left though, unless Asriel's return is relegated to the end of the story with no room for detail, it's going to be a trainwreck.
>Mom's turned drunk and is seemingly fucking strangers>Dad's broke, living off the generosity of the neighbors and obsessed with The Incident still>Brother(Sister?) is depressed, acting weird, disappears for long periods without explanation, and is hanging out with the town delinquent (Azzie'd be doomed if he actually met Susie, but without actually meeting her...)And to top it all off
>Everyone is still obsessed with his old dead girlfriend Even if everything has been going perfectly at collage for him (which I kind of suspect it won't), he's got a hell of a situation to return to.
>>714216942>She also calls Undyne a sacrifice.Gonna be so fucking funny when this is some shit like "sacrificing cover" and Undyne is in on it or some shit
>>714216929>The red dot is just her finger bleeding after we penetrated it with the ThornRingexplain why you can move it then
>>714217704He unironically banged a baddie and fixed her (Asgore tried and failed)
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>>714218059>Girl invites her friend into her room, alone>They reconnect and share an intimate moment>Suddenly they reveal a side of themself she's never seen before>They slowly back her into a corner>She's terrified but just can't bring herself to say "no">They finally grab her and penetrate her>Visual of a rose losing its petalsThere is simply no way to know what Toby Fox meant by this
>>714217883ok that one's not that hot
All of the sans memes are fucking hilarious because in order to get experience to kill sans, you would've had to kill Toriel first.
>>714217114Noelle and Susie are going to fuse together to become a rival soul that steals our vessel, and we will have to fight them with Kris.
>>714218317I think it's totally possible the entire thing's going to end up being a joke. Like maybe they're just hiding a festival prop for Asriel inside the bunker or something.
>>714217982NTA, but I think Susie might already be looping. She just doesn't remember.
>>714218059>noelle begs for you to stop has you โpierceโ her with your โthornโ causing her to bleed and originally causing a flower to wiltWell what the fuck are we supposed to take it as
>>714218031Post your predictions.
>>714212830Rouxls was the funniest part of the chapter next to Tenna, and flaws is what separates Elnina/Lanino from the gay music trio.
>>714217704>Rudy gets his wife pregnant TWICE>Asgore gets his wife pregnant once and then adopts a child We know who the better husband and father is here
>>714218361It's over. Btw the artist for the Gooner Vessel is Enigi09.
>>714214779And guess who gets knighted just after doing this?
>>714218663I hate Enigi because his shit is so boring it almost feel like he's a AI image generator given flesh
>>714215330>You entered the codes knowingly.Loop theory bros get vindicated more and more every day
>>714214950well yeah he's not "the player's" self insert because he's someone's self insert already
I finally got around playing Undertale for the second time for true pacifist. Deltarune blows it out of the water
>>714214631Ch. 3 really brought Kris out of his safespace.
>>714217549>toys coming to life in the Dark World>shitpost meme that's just an homage to Toy Story>Ralsei spoonfeeds this point home in Ch. 3>fans still don't get itFans never learn if they know they can double-down on the next episode.
>>714217576Get a load of this baka gaijin not keeping an honorably forged samurai sword as part of their cutlery.
>>714217269>The question will be what you doreplay on all three savefiles, find every place where the flavor text diverges, see key points where cinematics/side quests branch off, etc
>the significance in or out of Snowgrave.I'm of the belief that you'll have to do some Weirdrouting/Snowgraving to build up Noelle at points, but know when to stop in Ch2 or know what to say to ease off the Weird route in Ch4.
>>714216089"Holy based, but what bad timing"
>>714218778I thought that was just supposed to imply that Kris knows how to bypass the parental controls for his TV.
>>714218330>explain why you can move it thenNot him, but you can do that?
>>714217576Toby Fox
He cooks with a katana
My sources? OmoCat
Howโs Tony going to top raping the doe
>>714217759>plays rouxls' theme when hes not with usyeah kris is ok with this nigga
>>714217793Sans has 1 HP. Whoriel may accidentally kill him during sex.
wouldnโt fucking an anthro girl just feel really hairy and weird
>>714216089Vindicated me hating Sans since I was a teenager in real life...
But at what cost?
>>714219009How do you rape someone as a bottom?
>>714219009the doe raping kris
>>714218405kek, genofags can never win
>>714219009she's going to rebel against us once she's strong enough
>>714218105The world is not ready for S Noelle.
>>714218775Kinda agree, but for me it's because he just does Chara but not Frisk (female) porn.
>>714216951Gaster confirmed but not as some Interstellar entity but as a scientist trying to study the dark worlds
>>714217530knife/knight's sword is obviously Kris, we will fight him while inside Susie
>>714216865if loop theory is real I would put all my chips in Susie being the Knight. The antlers would be some sort of memento from Noelle and whatever happened to make her become the knight.
>>714219009She takes the soul for herself and we start playing as Noelle instead of Kris
Okay but what if:
>Check Sans
>2 HP
>>714219156He's both? Literally entry 17 was Gaster creating a Dark World. No idea who sealed it tho given you need a human soul.
>>714219049sleeping puts your HP over the max
>>714217476Berdly's concubines awaiting the first hatchling, heartwarming.
>all these whoriel memes
>no lightsaber sans cock
this is bullshit
>>714219227I don't think you can increase your HP without also increasing your LV, so that instantly puts him on my radar for killing Dess
>>714219227He's still a lazy shit that always does his attacks in the same order. Also he can only dodge one hit at a time... and it's a lot harder to evade AoE.
I'm betting the CH5+6+??? dark world is the entire fucking town, which receives a Mode 7 overworld.
>>714218405I can kill Sans at level 1. I'd just rape Toriel. There's no point in killing her.
>>714219249wait what if deltarune is a dark world inside of undertale and the "angels heaven is closing that dark world"
>>714219070Yeah, people notoriously hate hugging pets and stuffed animals.
>>714219458You don't get sweaty doing either of those activities
>>714219380Lightsabers are for Frisk.
>>714219429>no comic sans
>>714219249Well, there's a Human Soul in Undertale that's gone unaccounted for...
>>714218516With the wilting flower removed as it now is, that's just stabbing someone.
Like if you hold someone down and pierce them with a thorn they would indeed be telling you to stop, that's just a depiction of a non metaphorical situation
>>714219009At the festival date in Chapter 5 Noelle is going to ask for YOUR name and want to learn more about YOU
Toward the end of the Chapter you're going to find another ThornRing in the Flower Dark World and Noelle is going to put it on Kris's finger. This culminates in YOUR name replacing Kris's on the UI with Kris broken in as your vessel
>>714219227Absolute sans kino tier list
GOD TIER
>chapter 5 opening with "its a beautiful day outside" speech>sans calls the red soul in the cage a "cool bird"GREAT TIER
>combat situation with sans (either light world or dark world), he inexplicably has something ridiculous like 9999999999 HP and is considered a tank>sans enters a dark world, his clothing changes in a small way (pink slippers, or a different shade of blue for his jacket)>sans is from a THIRD universeSHITSTORM FOR WEEKS TIER
>go downstairs when chapter 5 starts, the song "sans." is playing instead of the home theme>asgore vs. sans>asgore hits sans so hard his HP permanently reduces to 1OKAY TIER
>sans is a timecop and only got closer to toriel to stop (You)
>>714216089>What was your reaction to this scene?Why? Why did Toby add Mom NTR to the game?
These are the only possible, narratively supported personalities for Asriel:
A) Embarrassing dweeb : Supported by the dopey wallpaper, implied fear of Dess, Yoshi and then Magical Girl fixation, and being off in college.
B) Resented abuser : Implied by Tenna saying the family is fighting and other dialog about him, Kris insisting Ralsei looks nothing like Asriel, and Kris always having been prone to outbursts and being second potato in the Dreemurr household
C) Dead : Supported by almost everything, from Alphys saying Kris can't talk to Asriel despite both of them having cellphones to Susie making fun of his kiddy wallpaper to having no memories of him as an adult to his childhood deodorant still being in the medicine cabinet, all photos of him being childhood photos, etc, etc, the more you look the more you will find this goat has ceased to be
>>714219694dont forget
>The Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans is a deltarune song
>>714219694Okay tier is canon except against Kris.
>>714219663Would be too based, never gonna happen.
>>714219432Wouldn't make any sense because shouldn't Kris and Susie turn to stone when they enter another dark world?
>>714219596Chara's? Didn't Asriel fuse with it and then it dissipated along with Asriel?
I CAN'T BELIEVE CHARA DID THIS
>>714208271>lets undyne get kidnapped to save the town bicyclewhy?
>>714219763Why the fuck would both Asgore and Toriel keep up the "he's at college" bit though?
>>714219694>>go downstairs when chapter 5 starts, the song "sans." is playing instead of the home themeToby WILL do this just for the joke and you WILL like it
>>714217472>Asriel bringing home a human girlfriend>Its fucking Frisk
>>714218358>>714218516I just can't take that seriously, it's clearly not what Toby's intention was considering he changed it twice. (You) made Kris stab her with a thorn for reasons we don't understand yet.
Of course she's going to be weirded out by the mind reading voice occupying her friend that wants to put a thorn in her finger.
If it's le implied rape, that just makes me think it's going to be a lame Genocide retread instead of something genuinely interesting and filled with potential.
>>714220117>Asriel comes home>Is a flower with a goat mask and no one notices
>>714219697>Suselle is Childhood friend NTR>Soriel is Mom NTRBoth will be subverted by Krusie and Asgore getting his honor back in chapter 5. Trust the plan, trust in Gerson, trust in freedom leitmotif, trust in Tobert
>>714219380>no lightsaber sans cockWdym?
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>>714220165>it's clearly not what Toby's intention was considering he changed it twicehe folded against the slight pushback from twitter/bluecry
>>714219396That's an idea people have had for awhile since festivals are also a kind of escapism, but so far dark worlds have been limited to basically one room, so it's hard for us to say it's even possible. We already know Chapter 5 is going to take place in the Flower King and Chapter 6 should logically take place in the Shelter. The question is how exactly this plays out. Toby had Susie deliver some clunky dialogue/reasoning in Chapter 4 which basically amounts to "Asgore isn't the Knight but knows all three codes to the Shelter." I assume Chapter 5 will be about comic books and you'll rescue/stop Asgore, and with him now realizing what dark worlds are you'll clue him in on the Shelter situation, and he'll give you the codes, which will be Chapter 6. It could be that all this stuff will be resolved in Chapter 6, but Rudy starts dying at the festival and Noelle, after also learning about the dark worlds from being in the party with us again, creates one to try and save him. Somehow, Catty, Catti, Jockington and the bunny shop girl end up in a dark world. This will probably involve the prophecy's finale (which is about Noelle, not Susie).
>>714220048Coping mechanism, bad parents who keep lying to Kris and themselves, trying to spare Kris whose intelligence they constantly undermine from the pain he went to art therapy for, who knows maybe his body is at some university while they try to figure out what happened to him.
>>714219763Why would Bratty mention hitting on Asriel in front of his brother is he was dead?
>>714220224Two jak references was more than I was expecting
>>714218906Could be either or really, but you're probably right to a degree
>>714209505>doesn't give a shit about her kid disappearing for a whole day>lets a complete stranger eat her son's breakfast and place his own shit inside the fridge>fucks said stranger so loudly her kid literally can't sleep and Susie has to intervene and tell them to shut the fuck upThe fact that people out there try to defend her is the funniest shit ever, especially cause you know if the scene was exactly the same but her sprites got replaced with Asgore they would be demanding his head on a spike.
>Asriel started to prefer the magic using swords woman
>Dess is a magic using swords woman
It's like poetry
>>714216089You dropping this yesterday was like a loredrop
>>714216089My reaction was the following:
>ehhh.....I mean, come on, it's late, it was raining, and instead of worrying about her child, she brought some jerk home that she's just met to drink and dance with. Come the fuck on. If Kris, the troubled youth, ends up sticking their knife in Sans's eye socket, it will be understandable.
>>714219432It makes more sense the other way since Undertale is obviously supposed to be a video game, like humans sealing the monsters in the underground is like humans putting monsters into a video game, and the barrier is a gray rectangle, like the opening of a SNES. Also, every time the heroes enter a dark world, they do so by jumping in and falling; you also have to fall into a hole to get to the Underground.
>>714220324That being kept up by the entire community is too damn stupid for me to take seriously.
Asgore's dumb ass would forget the script half the time. Even if its true it would be such as an asspull.
>>714216089mild chuckling
that said i understand why certain people may find this scene traumatizing
>>714220354>>714220489Why should the whole community know?
>>714220423Virtual pussy does shit to dumb motherfuckers
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>>714219694>>asgore hits sans so hard his HP permanently reduces to 1
>>714220426>The hamster inside Susie's head suddenly deciding to work that wheel and make her realise that her words made this entire scene several times worse for Kris
>>714201681 (OP)>Says Spamton is the best character while posting the actual best character in the OPWhat is this cognitive dissonance
>>714209505I did not know sans reminds /v/ of their chad stepdad
>>714220603A solid amount would.
Asgore was pretty notable in their police force, Toriel is one of the town's 2 teachers, and they are chummy with the mayor.
The entire clergy would know, likely. Its too crazy to assume not a single person wouldn't mess it up. Especially the cats they are dumb as fuckin bricks.
>>714220267I doubt it, it's arguable that the shattering thorn is even worse than the rose if you're a pornsick zoomie that sees sexual innuendo in everything.
>>714220603Susie shittalking Asriel with Kris as cooler brother and Kris acting like a happy gremlin over his dead brother would be retarded. The focus is clearly on Dess, while Asriel is another Papyrus absent meme character
>>714220424Let the man have his eldritch undead waifu
>>714220426We need to kill Toriel
>>714220217Based implied Flowisk.
>>714219763Wait fuck that would make too much sense on why Dess is working to spread the dark world, why Asgore is in on it, and why the dark world NEEDS to spread for Asgore to have his family back. They set up Gerson being dead for a fucking reason, this plot revolves around someone being dead trying to be revived
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>>714220165There's no implication that you literally made Kris sexually assault Noelle, but the subtext that you're forcing yourself (through Kris) on Noelle is very clear. The Weird Route being framed as you forcing Kris and Noelle into an abusive relationship (and YOU directly taking some twisted interest in Noelle) was already established with what happened in Chapter 2.
>We're not friends, we're "something else">"Noelle will ride with me">Implicitly threatening and intimidating her>NO, I GET IT! IT'S YOU AND THAT [Hochi Mama]! YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU!>MAKING [Frozen Chicken] WITH YOUR [Side Chick]>Every major event pushing the route forward has involved literally putting a ring on her finger
>>714220837This implies Chara did genocide and not the player kek
>>714219763>B) Resented abuser : Implied by Tenna saying the family is fighting and other dialog about him, Kris insisting Ralsei looks nothing like Asriel, and Kris always having been prone to outbursts and being second potato in the Dreemurr householdThis is literal headcanon, everything you brought up is completely unrelated to the idea that Asriel somehow abused him
The family fighting was Asgore and Toriel breaking up and Kris being a little shit that clogged the toilet with bath bombs
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>>714220693Interesting shape
Here is me
>>714220693Humans sucking (my) sovl cock.
>>714221000Don't fucking reply to me humanfag gook
>>714220868It's not literal rape in the sense that you made Kris whip out his cock and stick in Noelle but the analogy of raping her soul is the most blatant and unsubtle thing imaginable
>>714220901Chara DID destroy the world in genocide.
>>714221057>Ad hominemPajeet-sama, teach me
>>714220868i like the combat but this game gives me huge Evangelion vibes in the sense that kris is just a pussy who allows himself to get cucked and eventually gets so desperate he becomes gay
Imagine their date on the festival
>>714220901>chara needs the player to do genocide >the knight needs kris to help open dark fountains
>>714221063Imagine how violated noelle must've felt realizing you can read her thoughts
>>714220842No. Kris needs to fuck Toriel and get Sans out of the house. That'll fix everything.
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>>714221063Exactly, everything you're doing is "violating" her.
Not even just what you made Kris do, you're even inside her head reading her thoughts.
>People still think Chara did genocide
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>>714210973I don't understand what the chess pieces, the angel (besides being loosely related to the church theme), and the bullet are referring to
>>714216089>are you fucking kidding me
>>714221370Chara watched genocide and very rarely acted on their own, but yeah, (you) did it
>>714217472That would've meant Asriel moved on from Dess, and I don't think that's the case.
>A crying and crying and crying boy
Who's the better family, Dreemurs or Holidays?
>>714220837>posting the edit
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>>714220440>sticking their knife in Sans's eye socket
>>714221282>fuck TorielImagine the number of STDs. Though I'd probably risk it, too.
>>714221370>Charafags still think they're clever by pointing out the player is the one behind the player actions.Chara still supported and encouraged everything.
>>714221459She probably has so many stds
>>714220868>>YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU! Then the next line is
>YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [Hyperlink Blocked]![Hyperlink Blocked] = LOVE, in both a romantic and Level of Violence sense
>>714212278>Ever HigherHEY WAIT A MINUTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVPmUpN_W3o
>>714221459>humanizedruined
>>714221569holiday, for everything Noelle has gone through, at least she isnt a self-imposed eunuch
>>714221458There was also the angel doll in the basement
>>714220107Joke fight with Sans playing Megalovania except it's flipping pancakes
>>714221574>Reddit already is censoring our memes.Good job bringing in the original, anon.
>>714221458Purple and bullet were probably game mechanics like Green heart and arrow defelction in chapter 4. They were cut from finished product. Angel is refering Deltarune winged symbol and prophecy.
>>714212278>Susie and Kris' headbobsGod damnit thats cute
>>714221658They also ignore that Chara will outright ignore Genocide if you spare Snowdrake, or run away from Lesser Dog. You can kill as much as you want until nobody's left, but Genocide literally cannot happen unless you fulfil her esoteric desires.
>Feel free to spare or run away from any monster you want>As long as you kill X amount per area>Except for this specific list of monsters. Spare or Run Away from a single one and you're a failure.
>>714216951Papyrus is the dark knight pussywhipped by carol, but chapter 5 is undyne giving him a hero's spirit
>>714221658>>714221872Nice argument, however:
UOH CHARA CUNNY CUTE AND FUNNY CHILD EROTIC PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>714222065I remember this fag's art from way back in the peak Undertale days
he drew Chara as male
isn't chara supposed to be a boy?
>>714222065Based. We love human cunny here.
>>714221872I feel like a dumbass for realizing that the only reason Snowcuck gets a special note is because of how heโs programmed into the game relative to the other enemies
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>>714221082The player is responsible for Genocide, Sans outright says he knows you're the kind of person that just does it cause you know you can, that route is the player's fault.
>>714222167fucking kill yourself humanfag gook
>>714222118This looks lolish to me.
>>714221658>You.>With your guidance.>I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.Chara was just along for the ride.
>>714222118>>714222134>But but but but MALEYou fail to realize just how little this matters to me
>>714222167Good!
>>714222271>gookschizo was the true "dindu do nuffing" CharafagVERY telling.
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>>714222353Toby prefers right btw. He wants to be Japanese.
Weird route enjoyers: enjoy buck-breaking a virtual character
Normal route enjoyer: posts eluding to fucking kids
amazing
>>714222586Add the yellow crucifix eyes
>>714222397Basically on a regular mechanical level you can run away from enemies on Genocide and it wonโt abort the run, so long as you still kill enough of however much the total is per area, but Snowdrake is weird because heโs a unique enemy thatโs a random encounter instead of being some kind of scripted fight, so if you do something like kill multiple of whoever normally gives you the highest EXP/gold and run away from Snowdrake whenever you encounter him here and there, you still have to make sure heโs the last one you kill in Snowdin or else the route aborts automatically, hence the gameplay reminder
>>714222134Charaโs a murder boy(female)
I LOVE CHARA!!!! trans btw
I miss UT gookfrisk posting
>>714222586>NO REPOST>NO AI TRAINING>ASK PERMISSION
>>714222586>Toby STILL prefers the people who draw the right.
>>714222930>discord filenamegood bait
>>714222654>>714223014It is superior, after all
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>>714221282>enigiAbsolutely halal
>>714219481How does the church interpret the line about Lancer saying "toothpaste" and "boy"?
>>714221282>kris willingly having sex with a woman>kris doing anything of value without the soulits like we're playing two totally different games. he seems to be the most pathetic person in existence.
>>714223197Kris is the average white man, complexion and all
>>714222586Finally someone says it, I was getting so annoyed by the watermarked up shit constantly getting posted
>>714220117>big hands>smileshehe
i still wanna know who the OG artist of these are so I can suck his or her cock
>>714223341>her cock:transheart:
>>714219009Pushing her out of the Ferris wheel.
>>714223275yeah unlike the based chad browns crying their eyes out on /pol/ 24/7 about a "genocide"
>>714222353I can like both.
>>714223282What can a man say, I love me some cute humans!
>>714223419so i can fuck his or her cunt
>>714223562Human supremacy. Jap supremacy.
>pedoposting without a noelle in site from them
curious...