Thread 714201681

TOBY HAD TO MAKE THE BEST CHARACTER OF HIS GAME (SPAMTON) GAY TO NERF HIM

>>714201681 (OP)
Tenna > spamton

>>714202262
We dont like [[Trash Heaps]] in this part of the catalog...

>tries and fails to make another spamton
>makes the real spamton gay
rape temmie chang in front of toby for thag

>>714201681 (OP)
Why does this surprise you? Undertale has always been ultrawoke.

good, make it gayer

>>714205098
>rape temmie chang
sorry im not into prepubescent asians

they were just business partners

>badge on the bunker
yup yup, sans is actually part of the cops and saved toriel from her EVIL child

>>714205631
I really hope these stay as inoffensive references and Tobias doesn't try to pull some "multiverse" shit. It's the worst kind of story.

>>714205809
>it's raining somewhere else
>the place where it rained
>right after, sans enters
sorry, anon.

>>714202780
whirrrr get creamed

>>714205809
Its already canon only truly delusional retards like yourself believe otherwise.

>>714205631
Couldn’t save Undyne kek

I want Elnina
I want her

>>714206062
>Thing has not happened
>IT IS ACTUALLY CANON XDDD
Yeah, more reason to don't pander to mentally-ill hyper aggressive schizos like yourself. These kinds of references are good and all but you really don't want to target your fandom with it.

>>714206304
Toby wouldn't leave a true hero out to pasture. Next time we see her she'll be rocking battle scars with a smile on her face.
...right?

Undyne is a JOBBER

>>714205631
Is undertale the bunker's dark world

Finally beat chap 3 & 4 so I can open a thread for the first time. I feel like I missed half the game
>Missed the chap 3 shadow crystal because I thought it would be incorrect to kill the monsters in the video game while on a pacifist route and the door locks when you come back around to it
>Missed half the dialogue in town at the start of chap 4, including returning to castle town, because you're immediately locked into the dark world once you walk near the church
>Found no eggs, no chocolate, no onion
Please tell me the changes are negligible and I didn't miss much

>Toby managed to turn one of the most popular ships into one of the most decisive in one scene
I kneel

>>714207373
did you at least get the mantle and the diner scene?

I have a friend who's finally playing undertale for the first time with the steam sale, has anyone got that old meme of flowey shitposting on /v/ saying something like "you can't spare toriel killing her is the only way to get through the game" and grinning
i know one of you lads has this gem tucked away somewhere

>>714207521
I did not get the mantle because I didn't complete the video game. The diner scene with Susie I did get

The Knight is Kris' severed hand

>>714205809
Sans and alphys literally talk about about alternate universe in undertale

>>714201681 (OP)
Yup, I'm thinking Krusie gonna win

>>714201681 (OP)
How many times he's going to make freedom leitmotif for players to understand that your choices DO matter and prophecy CAN be broken and Krusie WILL happen?

>>714201681 (OP)
Spamton was always a whore.

>>714207373
It would be funny if the Pacifist route and the Shadow Crystal route are completely separate.

>>714205631
It's obvious Sans was saving Toriel and his teasing for Kris is because he knows the kid is up to no good.

>>714206304
>>714207136
She's just a cop in Deltarune. Yeah she acclimated pretty fast, but her first enemy encounter was the Knight.

>>714207373
>not beating the knight no mantle
The fight's more fun that way

>>714207373
Sorry. Kris will backstab Susie in Chapter 7 because you missed the Krusie date.

>>714208269
This made sense to me logically until I looked up the chap 3 secret boss after it became clear that I had missed it. It still makes sense to me logically.
>>714208371
I thought it was a scripted unbeatable fight
>>714208426
I did not miss the Krusie date. Is this /v/'s favorite scene?

>>714208567
Kino

Do you have the freedom sauce anon?

>>714208819
Ja

>>714208354
She's too good at spear spam to not have seen combat, Undyne is a grizzled veteran of the controversial war on humanity

>>714207839
>susie likes everyone equally
shipfags are going to get btfo when she friendzones everyone

>>714208819
Got a glass full of it on a coaster

>>714208537
If you load your save you can keep retrying against the knight, it's very much doable especially with revives and heals.

>>714207839
>Kris only reacts to Susie's Tea

>>714207839
Noelle's reaction to ralsei tea makes me think he really is just a plush or something similar in the light world and means absolutely nothing to everyone besides Kris and Susie. I was surprised that Tenna even acknowledged him so much, since lots of characters in chapter 2 went out of their way to ignore ralsei altogether

>>714207136
>fighting for survival in the bunker is how DR!undyne loses her eye

>>714209058
How much can you go back in change within one save file after beating chap 4?

How high were the chances Kris ended up being a school shooter if they didn't have to deal with all the prophecy and dark world and knight bullshit going on

Stop calling every fight that gives you the slightest bit of difficulty harder than sans

>>714209058
The sword hallways without the mantle have to be done flawlessly without being hit once

>>714209143
Yeah the way Berdly and Noelle regarded him is still very strange

don't forget
kris is a boy (female)

>>714209256
Sans is the easiest enemy. Why wouldn't it be harder than him?

Carol final boss confirmed.

>>714209186
And most of her hair.

>>714209236
Idiot. There's no guns in Deltarune.

>>714201681 (OP)
Is Toriel REALLY a terrible mom?

>>714209419
if deltarune was peak it would end with (you) pummeling this slut and raping it stupid

>>714209505
She's a slut.

>>714209505
Not terrible, just not what Kris needs

Wild how Toby got away with Sans, Papyrus, Toriel, Gerson, Undyne ( Papyrus told her), Asgore and Flowey/Asreil know what a human actually is and fucking works with deltarune

>>714209236
>How high were the chances Kris ended up being a school shooter if they didn't have to deal with all the prophecy and dark world and knight bullshit going on
Morbidly High, given how shit his life was even before (You) arrived. I 100% believe he would had killed someone if he didn't bond with Susie or had (You) possessing him.

>>714208954
Susie is clueless about romance. The main thing why Krusie will happen is that Kris interested in Susie and they interact and bond as soulmates, while Noelle has weird obsession over her that is discouraged by Carol and Catti

>>714209615
>implying (I) won't
Trust the plan, Kris is long overdue for rape correction, the second we get our vessel back it's over

>>714207839
>susie likes everyone
>noelle REALLY likes susie
>kris likes susie more than their old childhood friend
>kris doesn’t really like ralsei
>noelle and ralsei feel nothing towards each other
Sounds about right

YOU LOST IT ANON
YOU LOST IT.

>>714209808
What are you trying to say anon

>>714209505
Yes
>Mom ditches son.
>Son is scared and think she's in danger, searches for her with his friends.
>Unable to find her. Walk home in the rain after dark with his friend.
>Comes home to see his mom falling over drunk and "dancing" with some literal who who was an ass to them earlier. She met Sans just 2 days ago.
>Mom doesn't ask where son was. Was not worried about him being out late. Did not even tell him she was home.
>Friend is disturbed by this. Had built up an image of a good caring mother in her head that has now been shattered. Is unable to stick around and goes home.
>Mom tells son there's food in the fridge for him.
>There isn't it
>Is forced to listen to them "dance" (have sex) when he's trying to sleep.
>His parents are divorced and he misses his dad btw.

>>714201681 (OP)
Please, I am once again begging for somebody, anybody, to post the image with the "vague chapter 3, 4, and 5 spoilers" that accurately predicted the among us stuff in chapter 4 months before it came out. I don't care if it's not actually real, I just didn't save it the first few times I saw it and I've been kicking myself ever since.

>>714207839
There's a reason it becomes rotten.

>>714209749
>Not terrible
LMAO Just look at Kris's room. And the blood stain that she didn't notice is the cherry on top.

>>714209116
>>714207839
Total Krusie Victory

>>714210046
I get off from waging in 5 hours if nobody posts it by then I've got you

>>714209505
Ignoring the sans ntr memes, hanging out with some random you just met and inviting him into your home to drink with is incredibly fucking uncomfortable for a kid, and she didn't give a single fuck. Let alone every other time when she got mad at Kris for stuffing his face/not being as good as his brother. She's objectively a prick.

>>714201681 (OP)
Saying it again because I got harassed again: I am a Catholic and my best friend worked on Undertale. I work every day so the legacy of UTDR is ultimately Catholic, befitting it being given to the former Pope. After not getting to join the Homestuck or Undertale teams due to them becoming associated with lgbtq and leftism, I have formed a wide variety of artistic projects featuring horrible monsters for my best friend. You will all be owned. Fuck gays
>>714205202
Not true, I will explain the epic heterosexual narrative of the characters my best friend drew soon.

>>714209505
>leaves a giant bloodstain on her kid's floor
>keeps nasty wet fur in the drains, only cleans it up when she brings a guy over
>let a guy eat her kid's dinner
>doesn't seem all that concerned that her kid was out all day when the weather turned bad
It feels like the theme is casual negligence.

>>714209858
She's so clueless that she wing man for Ralsei to get Kris or giving the choice between Noelle and Ralsei at the end of chapter 2. She just thinks no one likes her like that even though Noelle is right there.

>>714210046
>>714210046
https://vocaroo.com/17VOskFldZq4

>>714209923
Undertale:
> most monster don’t know what a human is the ones who do are in 3 categories
1. Literally old enough from the monster human war [asgore, toriel, flowey, Gerson]
2. Was told what a human looks like one way or the other [Undyne by Papyrus, Alphys by human media via garbage]
3. Knows what a human looks like (because they’re from deltarune) [Sans and Papyrus]

>>714209505
>makes no attempts to understand kris
>doesn’t bother questioning why there’s a bloodstain near kris’ bed
>openly favors asriel over kris
>too busy fucking the town janitor to notice her child was missing for a day

>>714209207
What do you mean

They call him Dr. Sex

Female Kris niggas are the kind of faggots who play Egames where the only way to the scenes are by losing with the female main character

>>714201681 (OP)
>character interacts with another character
>"THEY'RE FUCKING"

it's being almost a month, how is the first month of WAITing going, anons?
possibly 17 more are coming

>>714201681 (OP)
Did you guys felt for the bait? Got bamboozled by red herring cliffhanger and though Toriel gonna get stabbed?

Let me just tell you already which subplots are also fake red herring that Toby fools you into believing

>Carol is not only not evil, she's also not involved with the Knight. Nothing she actually said is suspicious or malicious. Toby tries to make you think she's a mastermind and the Knight

>Suselle is not actually wholesome UndynexAlphys 2.0. Toby make you think that, but based on Catti and Carol (who we know is good) her involvement with Susie is actually dangerous

>game starts with telling you choices dont matter but its obvious by freedom leitmotif every chapter, that choices will influence the ending and romantic options

There are also obvious misdirection shenanigans when it comes to the Prophecy, but theres too many variables to really predict what exactly is being subverted. Very likely that there are 3 heroes and another girl who isn't the hero.

>>714210610
The varieties of people who don’t understand friendship, or even any human contact at all, are sad.

>>714209058
So who's Sonichu here?

>>714210573
https://youtu.be/G0sORVBL4kM?si=yn3wc6HDA2hZzsrh

>>714210665
>romantic options
nigger they're middleschoolers

>>714210665
why is she calling kris

>>714210665
Asgore being hinted at having a major role seems like the new red herring so far

>>714210796
(You)

I love her

>>714209505
Kind of. She's obviously trying with Kris, and it's clear she does love him, but she doesn't understand him and is a bit on the neglectful side with him. Her bringing Sans home, on it's own, is not a bad thing - she is divorced and lonely, if she wants to move on, she has that right. But if she wanted to spend time with Sans and build something with him, she needed to talk about it with Kris first, because bringing another man into their home is a huge upset for what Kris is used to and he should have been given a chance to voice his concerns about her dating again. Maybe she didn't mean for her little party with Sans to come off as anything romantic, but that's entirely the point: she's not thinking ahead about how her actions affect Kris. She's not a BAD mom, but she's not being a good one, either.

>>714210665
Agreed on Carol, she’s a woman trying to keep her life together while her husband is on death’s door, her oldest daughter is missing, and her youngest daughter is flirting with the town’s most notorious delinquent. All the while she’s mayor of a city filled with absolute incompetents on the eve of the biggest festival of the year. She’s just stressed, she’s not some magical malevolent force.

>>714210546
The post implied I can reload my save to beat the knight, but I've already completed chapter 4. Can I still go back or would I need a new save?

>>714210046
I'm thinking freedom leitmotif will have it's GRAND FINALE in chapter 7 where all the dark crystal owners break the normal route and we enter FREEDOM ROUTE where choice matter

>>714210665
Noelle is evil, not Susie. Noelle doesn't deserve someone like Susie.

LGBTQ be like:
>wtf? A friendship based on actually liking each other instead of material gain, social connections, and power in society?
>This is SO GAY! The gayest thing ever!

>>714210818
>he never experienced teen love
i'm terribly sorry for you

>>714210818
Good thing they're aren't. They're highschoolers.

>>714211004
I fucking hate how common this mind set is

>>714201681 (OP)
Did I miss something or is OP just headcanoning things like the faggot he is?

>>714210906
not being a gud mom is being a bad mom

>>714210906
>But if she wanted to spend time with Sans and build something with him, she needed to talk about it with Kris first, because bringing another man into their home is a huge upset for what Kris is used to and he should have been given a chance to voice his concerns about her dating again.
lmao imagine letting a fucking teenager decide whether or not you date. pure reddit

>"They are minors!!"
>Teens are the prime age for experimenting with love and sex
>Act surprised that hormanl teens are acting like hormonal teens WHILE the one acting surprised is most likely a hormonal teen
The internet just makes people stupid

>>714209615
you fell into his trap
she is going to be raping (you)

>>714205809
Anon, you're way too late for that. The DELTA RUNE is in Undertale and an NPC asks you if you've ever met "Suzy." Sans goes to Grillby's before dying in Undertale's G route and he appears in Deltarune having just moved into town with Grillby's but he crossed out the name.

>>714210596
only retarded nips like loss scene h-games
i enjoy the ones with pregnancy mechanics myself

>>714210847
He's an old friend who often went to Holidays to play piano, obviously Carol would like him and for him to help Noelle with Dess cope

>>714210818
the shipping still will happen, even one sided Suselle is still romance, and Toby literally implememented teases into the game

>>714210851
Red herring is him being involved as a bad guy with dark crystal, but its more likely he work with the Knight rather than Carol

>>714210954
Yeah, making her act like she's just homophobic who hate Susie and with nefarious comments to Kris was TOO MUCH of a red herring, especially with katanas on the wall.

>>714210906
>Her bringing Sans home, on it's own, is not a bad thing - she is divorced and lonely, if she wants to move on, she has that right
Tell 'em, sister! WOMEN ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN!

>>714211268
Post tits slut

>>714210973
It implies chapter 6 has some freedom route intro. "The air crackles with freedom" is the closest it get to breaking the prophecy. Especially with "puppet being release"

>>714210628
somehow it doesn't feel as bad as with ch2, probably because we have a rough release date instead of near radio silence for a year until the sweepstakes, and then nearly three more years of waiting

>>714210957
Loading the completed chapter 3 save lets you instantly refight the knight if you die. If you don't wanna replay chapter 4 I think you can get the crystal from the cliff in Castle Town in chapter 4 after beating her.

>>714210998
She's not evil, but she's messed up. We didn't notice, because we think Toby is just making some "spank me daddy" jokes where Noelle is being comically masochistic over Susie

>>714209505
>>714210906
She's not a mother, she's a whore. She's literally fucking a stranger she's only known for two days. As soon as Kris disappeared from the house, she started boozing and fucking.

>>714211661
I need more sufferkino

The "tail of hell" is the bead toy at the hospital.
Icing Berdley will stop the tail.

>>714211757
S-She's fast

>>714211562
GoR is almost always so garbage
>Lose to see a scene
>It's actually harder to lose than win
>Add an auto-lose button to remove tedium
>Losing now has no weight because you can just do it yourself any time
also based spoiler, those are always heavily underused

>>714210973
Thanks anon, I've been asking for this in the last like...3 threads in a row and I had almost started to gaslight myself into thinking it wasn't real.

>>714211838
What did Kris say to make Susie run off crying like that?

>>714211004
LGBTQ
>real love is being lesbians, doesnt matter if it's toxic, abusive, sister complex etc

>>714211565
Anon stop being retarded. Expecting anyone, man or woman, to simply not date after a divorce is unrealistic. I didn't say she should act like a fucking slut, I said that taking the first steps towards finding someone new is not the problem - the problem is that she's ignoring the emotional wellbeing of her son by not talking about it with him.

"Flower man trapped in asylum" is referring to the fact that Asgore is mentally stuck in the past.

>>714211757
I wish I could be that neighbor.

>>714211757
I'm in danger

I love the tiny detail that Kris and Susie presumably have no clue what their school project is supposed to be about. I couldn't imagine it any other way.

>>714211835
>If you don't wanna replay chapter 4 I think you can get the crystal from the cliff in Castle Town in chapter 4 after beating her.
What? You can just fight bosses on previous save files and get the crystal? No way

>>714201681 (OP)
You can still fuck the tv in your own dark world, he'll be simping for you

>>714210973
>Noelle gets wings
She finally breaks, huh? I just hope its ME cucking her with Susie what triggers her schizo phase

files.catbox.moe/38gpzw.png

>>714212041
either he agreed with her and that spooked her because she was bullying another unwanted kid, or she was already crying and kris pointed that out
either way i think it directly leads into susie meeting toriel on at the bench, it fits too well for it not to be what toby was going for

why are they like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA

>>714201681 (OP)
>acting surprised that the two tumblr sexy men were gay for each other
Tricky Tony knows what he’s doing

>>714209505
No, most anons on /v/ have mommy issues and are being hyperbolic.

>>714212013
Post my special MAD alert if you need something, I try to keep screencaps of schizotheories.

>>714212152
You are tasked with getting this dragon thing an A, what do (You) do a project on?

>>714212081
>I didn't say she should act like a fucking slut
That's exactly what she's doing though. She's only known Sans for 2 days. She literally jumps on a stranger's cock. But that's not surprising since Rudy said that Toriel was a party whore back then.

>>714210973
This HAS to be Toby right? Hasn't he posted on /v/ before?

>>714211835
Can you access castle town from the end of chapter 4? The school was locked.

>>714205809
i will only accept it if sans deltarune doesn't get sent to undertale
i just can't see how that can be pulled off in a satisfying way

>>714201681 (OP)
I liked Rouxls

>the ending reveals how Sans connects the timeline between Undertale and Deltarune but Deltarune is the sequel
How do you make it work?

>>714212354
the best ways to commit crimes and eat moss

>>714212436
>"Heh, Kris, your mom is such a slut... One time at a party, she got so drunk she blew literally every man she could get her big hands on! Whoo, man! Good times!"

>>714212278
i love the knight cups niggas like you wouldn't believe
those are my homies

>>714212457
I don't see how else these would be so accurate.
He definitely posted on 4chan but not under his own handle obviously.

>>714212041
"True"
He always answers things briefly and it's the most effective way to make Susie realize she said something she shouldn't have.

>>714209419
I respect you, FemKrisbro. Even if I disagree.

>>714212556
>"Yeah Kris she was a whore with a capital H! Do you know what a butt chug is Kris? No? Well one time I saw your mother butt chug a whole keg, before that I only saw a pledge take six! Anyways she went ballistic, stripped down to her skivvies and sprinted out on the campus. Once she started streaking campus police couldn't stop her so they had to call the REAL cops... Anyways, that's how she met your father!"

>>714212041
"Is that what your parents did to you?"

>>714212501
No.
You can reload your save file and a path to the castle town will appear, but most of it will be blocked off.

Monster souls aren't supposed to be upside-down. The "monsters" in Undertale are just darkners and that's why their hearts are inverted.
Actual monster souls like Susie would have their hearts rightside up.

>>714201681 (OP)
I love Tenna

>>714211661
>>714211963
Artist name?

>>714212789
I'm gonna say it.
The threesome subplot was highly unnecessary.

>>714212737
>retcons it like how it was retconned monster could bleed in deltarune but couldn't in undertale

>>714212041
"I hope so."

Noelle is a bitch she clearly fetishizes Susie

Toriel is whoring again....

>>714212830
thats anything involving Rouxls

>>714212920
That whole character could have been an email.

>>714212191
Yeah Seam has dialogue that hints at it in chapter 2.

>>714212436
>She literally jumps on a stranger's cock.
no she literally doesn't, she makes stupid puns with Sans until Susie tells them to shut up

>>714212457
The way Toby is based with memes but not vulgar is also making me think he actually posted it

>>714212830
The Roulxs shit is bordering on undertale Alphys levels of forced at this point. He was fun during the first two chapters if only because he was brief.

>>714209419
How fucking DARE YOU!!!!
Yes I headcanon Noelle as trans, yes I headcanon Susie as a pansexual queer lesbian who cuts herself, but how DARE YOU misgender Kris!!

How would (You) react if she ends up with Ralsei?

>>714212830
come on dude it was funny
also Rouxls is a based retard

>>714212830
honestly i thought it was rouxls' funniest bit
it also helps that he doesn't overstay his welcome
star walker at the end of it sent me

>>714212705
But enough to where the chap 3 shadow crystal can be obtained? I might try that then, it's the only major thing I'm missing unless there are eggs or anything else I don't know about

>>714213094
erm, male and female are sex, not gender
you can't choose or change those

>>714213095
well considering neither susie or kris has a dick, someone needs to be able to give them kids
may as well be the fluffy boy

>Rouxls
>Could potentially break the game mechanics with his "The Rules" shit
>He's too dumb to exploit it
I'm telling you guys he is going to be vital in chapter 5 or in the 4th wall game breaking moments

>>714213095
She should become a lot more closer to him in the later chapters in that case instead of clarifying that he's just a friend all the time or shipping him with Kris like she does in ch1 (if you build the thrash machine as the kiss model) and ch3.

>>714213146
>it also helps that he doesn't overstay his welcome
funny cause Chapter 3 is where he's at his most prevalent

>>714213181
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj7KptqLWMA
If this mechanic works though, it should be there in chapter 5. Definitely get the shadow crystals.
I hope the eggs don't lock you out of some very good shit because I missed a few

>>714213095
I’d kneel as both krusie and susellefags go ballistic over getting cucked by the twink gote

>>714213039
>no she literally doesn't, she makes stupid puns with
Tell me why their voices are speeding up. And why are the sounds of their words so short? It sounds more like short moans. They're two drunk adults. They're obviously fucking. Toby knew what he was doing with that scene. He's the King of Ero Games after all.

>>714213095
Like how? She would walk around in Lightner world with a plushie? Also her giving him a noogie was very symbolic for littlebrother zoning him like Lancer. There also too much pity party over him with the room furnitures, tea part and wanting him to get friends on the festival. It also doesn't have anime surprise shipping moments like pic related

>>714210973
If this is real I would bet money on the reveal that Ralsei is the headband/Kris’ monstersona being the focus of chapter 6. It would mean that the party has (in some sense) really only consisted of Susie and Kris the entire time. That Kris’s growing affection for Ralsei is indicative of his personal growth and ability to love himself. That Ralsei’s personality is the kind of person Kris always was but could never express, or was perhaps smothered by whatever trauma he dealt with in art therapy. That Susie’s kindness and gentleness to Ralsei is a sort of tangential softness towards Kris, the only other person in her life who can relate with her isolation.

>>714213039
>puns are a play on words where they mean two things at once
>making puns is the same as making sex, making the very puns themselves puns

>>714209419
How would you react if Toby revealed that kris was just a girl who called herself “non-binary”

>>714210973
This is BS BTW.

Rouxls SUCKS
I HATE HIM
You could remove him and the game becomes better

>>714212829
On the corner brodie

>>714211358
Only xitter troons care about the ages of drawings.

>>714213095
Honestly sad because that would only happen out of grief and anger that Kris and Noelle are hiding things from her, and she picks the dude who outright tells her he isn't real because a fantasy is better than her reality.

>>714211835
This doesn't work for the Knight's crystal.

>>714213685
Don't know how I missed that

>>714213608
i'd be cool with it
although preferably the whole 'non'binary' thing would stem from toriel not understanding humans and not from kris caring about pronouns of all things

Newfag playing through the first time, kinda surprised that I see so much stuff about (you) being some evil bastard that ruined Kris' life on other sites and shit
Have niggas been operating under that take for years? lmao

>>714213463
Sounds like it'd be better to just let it play out and decide once it's all said and done

>>714213039
Are you 10 years old? It's a T-rated game. Of course he can't show them fucking. Do you know what an allegory is? They're fucking.

>>714212830
It's foreshadowing, (we) are getting a battle throuple, Kris fulfilling the role of guy nobody likes

>>714213095
As hard as I try, I can't imagine any chemistry between them. Feels like trying to hook up Rouge the bat with Tails. There is just no good complementing traits between them.

>>714213873
Because they either self identity with Kris or hate themselves. These are also the first people who would get rid of meta stuff from Toby's games if they could which defeats the purpose.

>>714213095
It would be based even if Krusie is better.

>>714212830
It's foreshadowing for how the Sans/Asgore/Toriel subplot will resolve.
Namely that Toriel will get annoyed with Sans and rejoin Asgore, and then they both accept Starwalker

>>714213590
We can go further and just make it that Kris is actually hallucinating everything, and that he's just a human in human world lying in the hospital and that Susie and Noelle don't actually exist, and he's recovering after his parents divorce

>>714212041
I HATE TV

>>714213873
This fanbase is retarded. Ignore them.

>>714213095
I feel like it's basically impossible because Ralsei won't survive to the end, but even if he was going to I don't really get why people think their relationship is anything more than good friends.

>>714213983
I like the metaslop, but my favorite part is that you can interpret it both being allegorical or literal. It works on both ends.

Who was Ralsei talking to here

Is fluffy boy going to have a happy ending or not?

>>714205098
>and fails
nah

>>714214060
Toby would be so based if true.

>>714214374
you, the player (gay)

>>714214141
I think making the connection that Ralsei must be an object of tremendous importance to someone to manifest so clearly in the fantasy dark worlds isn’t a stretch. It’s like not seeing the parallels between Queen/Carol. The idea that the trips into fantasy are in effect a form of therapy for the characters isn’t even subtext, it’s the whole theme. Kris having a difficult to discern personality that’s actually expressed through another character isn’t the same as ‘they were dead the whole time’.

>>714214141
>It was all in le head
Toby isn't a cheap writer.

>>714214374
Doctor WD Gaster

>>714214397
>dumbass ralsei stared at the sun directly midday

>>714213608
>Toby self insert as Kris
>Kris sleep in shared brother's room where its against norms for girls ti sleep in male bedroom
>all of his costumes are male
>his prophecy icon is male with male hips
He's a man, stop coping with your troon fetishes.

>>714213541
Anyone else notice this?

>>714213873
To be half the fanbase is now shitposting about (YOU) trying to get kris laid and kris being a lil shit about it. The other half is playing snowgrave where you actually are ruining kris’ life for the funnie

>>714211838
I love edgelord Kris. The "I'm not a dream" line was also great.

>>714214397
Infinite suffering for the goat!

>>714214374
Kris.

>>714214679
In the game files this sprite is called "KNIGHT_SLASH"

>>714212041
"You're crying."

>>714214608
>Kris sleep in shared brother's room where its against norms for girls to sleep in male bedroom
Would it really shock you if toriel made her adopted daughter sleep with her brother (especially since they don’t HAVE a spare room)

>>714214631
he's a goner

>>714214491
Yet he refuses to monetize the main 3 characters, as if they are tied to some trauma

post yo'u're hours

>>714214631
waddahell, why did he go all gooner there

>>714214397
FFTY.
Someone probably should've warned him

>>714212278
This reminds me of the Sprout Mole village from Omori.
And it's not only the cops that remind me of sprout moles, but the music too.
When I first heard that jingle at 00:26 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA I immediately thought of a similar jingle in the Sprout Mole village theme:
check 00:26 in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zha0Yb126o

>>714212041
>you’re crying
>I know
>wouldn’t be the first
>like you?

>>714214608
kris being anyone's self insert goes against what kris is all about, this includes toby
toriel cannot into humans, and kris wears asriel's old clothing because toriel can't be bother to buy stuff for kris
ralsei's prophecy is inaccurate, you can also argue that susie looks male as well
how is kris being female a troon fetish? she's not mtf, she's just kris but female

>>714214862
Like 3 and a half to get through chapter 1.
Haven't played any today.
t. newtard

>"Stay away from my daughter you filthy fucking Dyke!"
Jesus Toby...

>>714205631
>>714212515
>>714212540
Sans Undertale being from Deltarune is a pretty obvious misdirect. Sans in Undertale does come from a DR-esque world, but the Sans we see in Deltarune comes from UT.

>He is "new" in town
>He winks when he says he has no idea who (You) are
>His story is literally just Grillby's
>He doesn't know who Toriel is in Undertale, but that's obviously not the case in DR
>If he barely knows any of these people (as he is new in town), why does he try so hard to go back? Also, wouldn't Frisk recognize, say, Toriel in the picture?

Always remember Sans is the character most closely related to Gaster. Whatever reason Gaster had to bring (You) to the world of DR, likely also attracted Sans. Hell, they might be working together somehow.

>>714214862
Like 27 hours or something

>>714215049
Heck took you so long

>>714214060
Does this mean Elnina's a whore

>>714214801
Kids normaly dress up and change clothes from pajamas and are naked in the morning. Its the main reason sibling of different gender don't want to share the room. Toriel would sooner make Asriel sleep on the couch

>>714215070
Mine's over 30, there's a lot to read and shit

>>714214989
deltarune will never have homophobic slurs, toby hates those
it would be more accurate for carol to call susie a drigger, since toby is cool with racism

>>714207839
Fun fact. There's code that changes Kris drinking Ralsei's tea to 100 if you tell him it's okay not to smile.

>>714214948
>"Like you?"
That one goes way too hard, I feel like Susie would actually throw hands over that.

>>714215070
Mostly having the game in the background while I do other things. That and throwing myself into the brick wall of secret bosses

>>714214950
You will never be a woman and neither will Kris. If you want to self insert as a girl then play Baldur Gate 3 and fulfill your fetish

What did Carol Holiday mean by that?

>>714212354
Mating compatibility between monsters and humans

>>714209505
Not really. She obviously loves Kris, but she fails at understanding him at a fundamental level and instead of working on connecting with her son she just coddles him to try to make up for the issues he has.

My stance might change depending on what happens in the morning of Chapter 5. If this bitch lets Sans do whatever the fuck in their house then abandoning team Toriel.

>>714215171
Maybe “you too, huh?” Would be better

>>714215206
That Kris is a friend of the family and that Carol might as well be his second mom?

>>714215206
She wants (Our) hot, throbbing [HeartShapedObject]

I loved intruding into Kris's private life by forcing them to return to art therapy and get me an egg.
I will love even more when I can discard Kris like a used condom and use my CUTE vessel!!

Did you guys replay chapter 4 and memorized the piano puzzles?

>>714207839
I agree with Toby that this was a dumb idea to implement in Deltarune

>>714212830
It single handedly gave renewed strength to the Noelle/Kris/Susie and Ralsei/Kris/Susie shippers.

>>714215330
I've never seen this but I've seen when Kris gets pissy we memorise the piano piece and fucks the second to last note up

>>714215070
>>714214862
Mine's almost 37 hours. And this is after replaying chapter 3 and 4 and only taking like 3 tries for the mantle and 1 for the knight. The knight originally took me a whole day.

>>714215330
Wrote them down, Kris is a faggot for not letting me do the big one on my own

Reminder: Love Triangle plots fucking SUCK AAAAAAAAAAASSSS

>>714215203
i don't want to be a woman, and imagine thinking that toby will ever confirm kris one way or the other
stop thinking about trannies, it's bad for your health

>>714214948
>I know
I feel that'd be the most interesting, and it's not unlikely considering that it's seeming that Toriel never cared that much for Kris

>>714214862
Mine's 19 hours

>>714215146
Horseshi -

>>714215423
I'm angry there's no reward for doing the piano segment flawlessly, instead Kris always fucks it up at the end without even any unique dialogue as a result

>>714214867
he gets sick when you make him kill 8-bit susie and ralsei

>kris would rather let (YOU) mindrape their childhood friend than just rip you out and reveal your existence to Noelle
What the fuck does kris need you for to keep you a secret?

>>714215330
I replayed it but of course I only did the puzzles after discovering the solution again in the playthrough. I enjoy playing the game, so it's not like I want to check my old notes get it over with.

>>714214989
It such an obvious misdirection. Like literally Suselle being coded as another Undyne/Alphys is such a win for Toby when he trigger the explosion and take majority of fandom by surprise.
There is no way he would make Susie another Undyne. he is fucking with shipper's expectations.

>>714215361
When did he say that?

>>714215484
You don't have to be a woman, just say that your vessel is a guy with a fat cock.
Mine likes the color green

How old are Asriel and Dess anyway? are they still early adulthood or they are closer to their 30s? I'm not entirely sure, they clearly are in their 20s

>>714215526
>>714215146
That seems like it would've been so cool only for him to cut it out because it'd be "too much work"
Come on man...

>>714215586
to seal the final fountain after he and carol cause the roaring to get dess back

>>714215146
>100
>while Kris already has Susie on 120 in chapter 2
weak power level

>>714215676
Early 20s.They're not that much older than Kris or Noelle.

>>714213095
Not much of a surprise since Ralsei ask you to bring her "ice cream" when you talk to him in Chapter 4 instead of closing your eyes

>>714210818
I don't know why but for some reason one of the easiest and fastest ways to troll my to death is people saying characters are way younger than they actually are.

One of the classmates is a god damn waitress they cannot be a single year younger than 16. Kris probably has his learner's permit at minimum considering all the jokes about him driving something in the light world.

>>714215676
Assuming he went to college immediately after high school he could be anything from 19 to 24.
Dess would be the same age but dead kids don't age.

As soon as (we) get used up Kris is gonna turn that knife on (us)

>>714215725
>Noelle at 70
Kris hates that bitch kek

>>714215206
People should replay chapter 4 and mentally replace her "mischevious evil face" with happy Catty face and you will notice how much it change the entire dynamic. She is too also a big misdirection from Toby to fuck with expectations

>>714215482
This is why they poke fun at it with this

>>714215829
For how long has she being missing anyway?

>>714215586
I mean would anyone actually believe him if he said he was being possessed?

>>714213094
Yeah, I feel like that's the actual core of the pushback on the 'nonbinary Kris' thing. It's not just that it's weird gender shit, it's that it's weird gender shit you MUST AGREE WITH OR YOU ARE A BIGGIOT WHO MUST EXILE YOURSELF TO SIBERIA.

Look, I've always been of the stance that "mental gender" is quack science founded on faulty data and serial child abuse, so I am kind of naturally predisposed to think the entire thing is dumb. But I'm also not your fucking dad, and neither is anyone else in this retarded fanbase. If you want to take an angle of interpretation on a deliberately ambiguous character, that should be your right.

But that doesn't mean you suddenly have the authority to go around demanding things always be done your way or else.

And what do you know, that's exactly what is being done. See entire accounts solely dedicated to threatening people on Xitter over this. See the Wikipedia article nonsense. See that cringy subversion shit where they feel the need to slip it into unrelated discussions/fanworks so they can virtue signal and then act like a victim if someone is bothered by it.

>>714215676
asriel is college aged now and the way he's talked about, he's probably in his first or just began his second year so between 19 - 21, dess disappeared god knows how long ago, she could've disappeared when she was younger than kris and susie are now for all we know
a lot of people's perspective on them has been warped by fanart pushing their ages up for shipping behaviour even when set prior to dess's disappearance

>>714215858
(I) TANKED Kris's impotent trashcan melty that knife won't even scratch me

Is Sans fucking Toriel worse for male Kris or female Kris?

>People still learned nothing from all the Friend inside me/Mike/Knight bullshit
>They still don't accept that the story isn't as deep as their schizo theories make it out to be

One day you'll learn.

>>714215918
7 years based on what berdly says about her book being overdue
That's long enough for the age gap to not be weird for Kris to date her

>>714216009
Oyakodon for both

>>714215859
He is distant after Dess shit. Noelle on the other hand became a crazy bitch wanting to fuck a bully that openly use physical violence on Kris instead of telling Alphys in order to save her childhood friend

What was your reaction to this scene?

>>714215985
Dess was at the very least, old enough to make band concerts, so she possibly could have being older than even Asriel

>>714215146
Surely Kris' tea reactions would change regardless of the choice (You) made there, unless Kris' tea reactions have always been the soul and not him...

>>714216009
Male Kris, a young man seeing his mother slutting it up is absolutely devastating psychologically.

>>714216050
well what do YOU think the story is smart guy?

>>714215985
TBF, toby implied that dessriel were fucking with the sweater and retainer in her room, and implied that they were doing the weed.

>>714214989
Based Carol.

>>714216089
>Lol
>Lmao

>>714216089
smile and optimism, gone.

>>714215206
>husband on deathbed
>recently divorced himbo housekeeper
she wants to be nice to kris so she can monkey branch on to asgore if/when rudy dies

>>714216089
Didn't think much of it, sans and Toriel being a thing has been implied ever since the date with sans in Undertale.

>>714216056
that was asriel's book retard

A lot of people seems to think Asriel will be a chill dude when returning but what if instead he was a lot worse and does a complete crash out?

>>714216105
Kris adjust to YOUR choices and take it as his own. This is why he protests when you say that you will never play piano or that you can't play instruments or when you say you will go with Berdly to the festival

>>714216089
It's bad, but I am sick of the circlejerk surrounding, it's getting old.

>>714216254
I would suck his dick right away

>>714215985
>Dess probably disappeared at age 12-14, when Kris was at most 7
I don't think Desscels can recover from that one.

>>714215970
Its so common now for youtube comments to be talking about Kris and says he, then some commenter ineveitably goes *Kris' pronouns are they/them"
Then either the original commenter pathetically apologizes, or the whole comment chain gets derailed with everyone (justifiably) getting pissed off by the woke warrior's comment

I definitely feel like there's a lot less tolerance for this than there was back in the day. Everyone was expected to call Kris they back for chapter 1 but now it's kinda 50/50

When are artists drawing more Monster Kid cockvore art?

>>714205809
>I really hope these stay as inoffensive references and Tobias doesn't try to pull some "multiverse" shit
Why do you think Undertale was such an magnet for AUtism in the first place?

>>714215206
>use katanas to slice cakes
>obsessed over christmas accessories and christmas carols
She's just a quirky lady being framed as malicious by Toby. Nothing to see here.

>>714216089
you been asking the same question for 4 weeks now and the answer is always the same
this shit is fucked

>>714207637
Very late response, but this one?

>>714215326
We LOVE cute Vessels.

>>714216009
my doujins tell me that femkris would be more affected by asgore being ultra cucked all the time

>>714209505
She's not as overbearing as her Undertale version was with Frisk. But at the same time, she's very hands-off like a typical RPG protagonist's mother.
She doesn't seem too concerned with her kid having a knife and didn't notice the bloodstain near the bird cage in Kris's room.
Asgore being a mediocre dad is also apparent; seems like he doesn't make too much of an effort to directly go to Kris. They just meet up by chance.

>>714216415
I don't know, maybe they're gay or something?

>>714213095
Unfathomably based

>>714201681 (OP)
I don't think people fully grasp the significance of this page and of the implications in placing a part of (You) in Noelle.
Chapter 1 has not applicable, but why is even it there in the first place if it's entirely unapplicable?
Chapter 3 is "not applicable but..." if you hold left. Is this implying going back to it later? There is a cut Shadow Crystal description describing "Undyne frozen in a block of ice."

This is the reason I mention this is placing a part of (You) in Noelle
People think it strictly confers control, but it has far greater meaning considering save points and being able to read other character's thoughts.

What's stopping you from completely ensnaring her in the same manner as Kris and dragging her to previous chapters to break the game??? Nothing in 3 is outright Snowgrave, everything there is the same between both routes outside of some Eram dialogue about Kris enjoying what you two are doing.

>>714215012
why would Sans leave his perfectly happy end of UT?

>>714216089
>Huh, this is the most animated I've ever seen Sans and Toriel's sprites

>>714209505
Absolutelly not, she's loving and actually seems accepting of Kris and his quirks even if she doesn't fully understand him.
I don't understand people bringing up the bedroom, either, it's not her fault Kris refuses to decorate.

>>714212847
It was stated in undertale but never stated in deltarune, making sans bleeding at the end of a genocide route insane

>>714215676
Asriel seems to around Burgerpants age, who was 19 in Undertale.

>>714216050
Friend inside WILL be vindicated in chapter 5

>>714214631
I really think they were just lazy and didn't update the sprite colors for the TV glare in every scenario. These sprites are used when you kill miniRalsei and miniSusie, and that place has a brighter screen to justify this brighter face color.

What is the Angel’s desire?

>>714216254
There's many hints at resentment for Asriel, from the way Kris bedroom is empty to how Susie is elevating Kris above his brother. Giving his belonging to Kris, encouraging Kris stealing money from him, in church calling Kris the "cooler brother".

Feels like how kids defended Eddy from Eddy's brother. Asriel might be either an asshole or in bad terms with Kris

>>714216593
after chapter 8 the timelooping will start and the entire story will change based on your decisions. but the twist is that the story will still end the exact same way each time no matter what.

>>714205098
If you take the ultimate meme yuppie as part of the inspiration for Spamton, then him being a bit of a fucking homo underneath it all wouldn’t surprise you.

>>714216593
Something is also leading me to a loop conclusion, the prophecy room in Sanctuary 3.
It repeats myriad pictures in different positions over and over as if unending. Every panel all together in a collage repeated.

The room with "The Girl Finding Love" is also coded to be completely random. You can have multiple hearts or just 1 in a random order.

>>714216593
>Nothing in 3 is outright Snowgrave
That is a good point I hadn't really considered. Everyone figured the 3 being big but hidden just meant "the lengthy minigame where you kill everyone... in zelda" but that doesn't really count as an actual weird route

>>714210973
>people still keep posting this when the majority of chapter 3 and 4 is wrong
>theres no purple soul fight
>ralsei isnt sus
>theres no rook or bishop
>knight isnt even near chapter 3

>>714216781
Finishing Deltarune and turning the game off condemning the lightners to non-existence

>>714216593
Chapter 3 is "not applicable but..." if you hold left. Is this implying going back to it later?
Kino theory but it seems more likely that it's supposed to reference the sword route
>not really a wierd route but teaches you how to do it
>pretty big part of the chapter otherwise
>holding left is a reference to holding left to force little kris back on screen to spook kris

>>714216514
Bro don't post art like that I'm not even bricked up I'm bouldered up bro

>>714216593
>placing a part of (You) in Noelle.
It was a rape metaphor but we did not literally impregnate Noelle with a piece of the SOUL
The red dot is just her finger bleeding after we penetrated it with the ThornRing

>>714216089
>Wow, people are really going to be mad at this LMAO.

>>714210665
>>Carol is not only not evil, she's also not involved with the Knight. Nothing she actually said is suspicious or malicious
She tells you to go to the church tonight, which is where the knight is. She also calls Undyne a sacrifice.
>her involvement with Susie is actually dangerous
They might be destined to kill each other or something. In the prophecy, right before the end, one of the triangles and the "angel" in the Delta Rune are cleaved and falling away.
>>game starts with telling you choices dont matter but its obvious by freedom leitmotif every chapter, that choices will influence the ending
It's most likely in reference to the prophecy being set in stone. But like with every single story ever with a prophecy, it can be "misinterpreted."

>>714210818
Kids don't typically become depressed and rebellious until after puberty ends.

>>714215676
Assuming Burgerpants is the same age in both games, they'd be 19. Asriel went off to college and hasn't come back yet, so he's at least 18.

>>714215958
I mean if he yanked his soul out and it just scurried away then yeah maybe

What would be the most kino shock plot twist to happen?

>>714216089
Combination of:
>I should feel bad but this is fucking hilarious, poor Asgore
and
>damn I really wanna hear Dummy! again

>>714216951
triple agent kris and he's been /ourguy/ all along

>>714216882
>so mad Toby posted spoilers and retconned your shizo theory

>>714216820
i think it's just that everybody always compared asriel favourably to kris, and then here's susie doing the opposite for once
i don't think asriel and kris are on bad terms, and if kris does resent asriel in any way it's probably a major source of self loathing

>>714216820
I don't think so, Kris actually do think very kindly of Asriel, but my guess is that he actually left the house during a very bad conflict and in a very bad mood, probably the same event that left Tenna traumatized and finalized the divorce.
Something happened.

>>714216865
Clearly "The Girl That Finds Love" is applicable to both Noelle and Susie, but something to consider is the impact of Noelle instead of Susie.
Susie would just reset time with the power of the SOUL, this is already hinted by a cut opening and her dialogue about an unending story.

What would Noelle do though? Would she use the meta knowledge to peel back layers and change things? It seems that you would be able to control her, right? Use her to change what was set in stone in previous chapters?

>>714216686
No, the cowboy will be the Yellow Flower instead.

>>714216050
There is no Knight bullshit.
Mike is a result of people misinterpreting a joke.
Friend is clearly something between Gaster and Flowey. It's probably Seam's stuffing and either working for or against him.

>>714216534
Personally I got a sense that Kris has a stronger sense of connection with Asgore than Toriel, but isn't really able to connect with him much anymore due to the divorce. Sure, Asgore doesn't constantly try to spend time with 'em, but between Kris being in the custody of his ex-wife and being a late(?) teen on top of that, a degree of estrangement is kind of expected.

We'll have to see come Chapter 5 though.

>>714217114
This leads me to notice 2 other things, chapter skip stars that appear after beating them once. This is deliberate, Toby is prepared for you to skip around and replay chapters at key points to do different things. The question will be what you do, and the significance in or out of Snowgrave.

>>714216942
>She tells you to go to the church tonight, which is where the knight is. She also calls Undyne a sacrifice.

literally not. Shadow voice is not Carol. She doesn't use this voice when speaking with Kris in Snowgrave route. Stop falling for fucking basic baits like a tourist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D7ySqmpXko

>>714217182
Toby's gotta reference UTY in some way when he does the flower shop chapter

>>714216926
Gooner Vessel Goon.

>>714216820
Kris prays for Asriel at the church in a monotone voice that Susie notices, which makes me believe that it’s one of the few times we hear THEM speaking and not us. I can’t imagine that’s indicative of resentment.

>>714216534
>she's very hands-off like a typical RPG protagonist's mother
I'm pretty sure typical RPG protag mothers are either dead or at least well aware their child is the hero. Plus for what Toriel knows it's an almost normal world not an RPG from her perspective if you're comparing it to some FF/DQ or Pokemon like games.

>>714217269
And the second thing is this cheeky little fucker knowing that you are unfamiliar with this place after creating a new save without previous save data on Chapter 4. I fully expect save hopping to be a feature at this rate with grave and hopeful implications.

>>714216951
Asriel bringing home a human girlfriend from college. She takes one look at Kris and is visibly unnerved since humans don't have red eyes and don't move or sound like that.
Maybe the story plays around with the notion of "humans have souls, but Kris never did..so what IS Kris?" after that.

Deltarune epilogue LEAK

>>714217340
Toriel in Undertale is so neglectful her children go through with a suicide pact without her realizing it.

>>714216951
susie villain

>>714217414
Lastly, the schizo map during Jackenstein has multiple paths with cut off entrances and skip sequences between the pictures. Toby could be fucking with us again but these symbols are super on the nose.

>>714216882
Bishop is Titan.

>>714217319
C'MON MAN

>>714216050
When people started relating “Friend Inside Me” to Deltarune I thought it was about info we already knew, aka (You) living inside Kris, and that people were just doing it as a joke.

who the fuck keeps a katana in their kitchen

>>714216457
Holy shit what an absolute boy, thanks mate appreciate it

>>714213095
I'd be fine with it, I already have Noelle.

>>714217576
Carol

>>714217486
Should've just poisoned the pies and send the souls to Asgore.

>>714215206
I genuinely would not be surprised if it Carol cared more for Kris’ wellbeing than Toriel at this point even if for selfish reasons

>>714217472
>Asriel bringing home a human girlfriend from college.
Based!

>That nigga Rudy banged a bitch like Carol
>He had TWO KIDS with her
How did he do it?

>>714217549
Not feeling much like a friend of Kris honestly. Its just Ralsei and Susie for us.

>>714217576
I have a viking sword in my kitchen that I use to cut watermelon

>>714216089
>Huh, good for them
and then
>Asgore is going to kill Sans next chapter
I had no idea it would turn into a neverending shitstorm

Sans is such a lucky guy

>>714217704
he was funny
you'd be surprised how easy that makes things for a couple

>>714212041
Also feel that "I know" works the best.

>>714217714
>ralsei
yeah, a great friend talking behind our back about us

>>714217531
I don't have more gooner vessels but I do have gray Frisk.

>>714217513
Actually 1 last thing, item descriptions and variables. I already mentioned the cut "Undyne in a block of ice" dialogue from the Shadow Crystal.
What I now want to draw attention to is the myriad variables and "cut half" of the game that has a ton of Noelle item dialogue and weapon descriptions.
She recognizes unused items and has descriptions for everything in chapters she doesn't even appear in at this point. I don't think this is just for a one time reappearance later. Recognizing unused meta items has huge implications too.

My final ultimate schizo theory is that a different side of the game is being made in parallel with what we have now and the entire game and all its variable triggers will be connected with the final update. NG+ or chapter hopping with different character compositions.

>>714216089
Was thinking a) this will give the annoying shippers a field day, b) why is sans here wait is that wine? is she drinking? c) this bitch is getting drunk whilst her weird autistic monkey child is out unsupervised in the dark, d) if i get an opportunity to kill sans i'm taking it regardless of any consequences i'm so bored of this cunt

>>714217576
It was a gift from the Ketsukanes

>>714217704
If noelle's dad didn't get sick with that illness and Carol's work as the mayor I guarantee you noelle would have like 2 or 3 younger siblings

>>714217114
So, what, we have three timeloopers in Kris, Noelle and Susie?

To be honest, Chapter 1 changes due to Susie loop could be interesting since Ralsei is NOT in the loop, so there would be 2 variants: OG Chapter 1 where Susie blows off Ralsei, and Timeloop Susie who would treat him like before she looped, except Chapter 1 Ralsei has never met Susie so their dynamic might be different

Honestly I think Susie would be really heartbroken if Kris/player is given options to pretend to not remember her either, Susie having to think her choice of looping the timeline has cost her the relationship she originally had with Kris and she has to build it all from scratch again would be a big oof

>>714217859
You mean like he does with Susie or does she not count even when people pair the two?

>>714217704
He bagged the baddest bitch by being nice and funny

>>714216050
I'm currently batting 90% accuracy with my predictions. So I'll keep schizo posting. Shame i don't have a youtube channel.

>>714216929
>rape metaphor
I can't help but fucking roll my eyes at this now.

I wonder if Noelle will have any more unique expressions for Snowgrave

>>714217114
Now that's interesting!

>>714217576
bro holiday

>>714216089
>These Toriel sprites are cute
>She's kind of a shit mother though huh

>>714217107
I could absolutely see him storming off to leave town if he was already 18 when the entire thing went down, but I'm not sure the timeline works properly.

Regardless of how he left though, unless Asriel's return is relegated to the end of the story with no room for detail, it's going to be a trainwreck.
>Mom's turned drunk and is seemingly fucking strangers
>Dad's broke, living off the generosity of the neighbors and obsessed with The Incident still
>Brother(Sister?) is depressed, acting weird, disappears for long periods without explanation, and is hanging out with the town delinquent (Azzie'd be doomed if he actually met Susie, but without actually meeting her...)
And to top it all off
>Everyone is still obsessed with his old dead girlfriend
Even if everything has been going perfectly at collage for him (which I kind of suspect it won't), he's got a hell of a situation to return to.

>>714216942
>She also calls Undyne a sacrifice.
Gonna be so fucking funny when this is some shit like "sacrificing cover" and Undyne is in on it or some shit

>>714216929
>The red dot is just her finger bleeding after we penetrated it with the ThornRing
explain why you can move it then

>>714217704
He unironically banged a baddie and fixed her (Asgore tried and failed)

>>714218059
>Girl invites her friend into her room, alone
>They reconnect and share an intimate moment
>Suddenly they reveal a side of themself she's never seen before
>They slowly back her into a corner
>She's terrified but just can't bring herself to say "no"
>They finally grab her and penetrate her
>Visual of a rose losing its petals
There is simply no way to know what Toby Fox meant by this

>>714217883
ok that one's not that hot

All of the sans memes are fucking hilarious because in order to get experience to kill sans, you would've had to kill Toriel first.

>>714217114
Noelle and Susie are going to fuse together to become a rival soul that steals our vessel, and we will have to fight them with Kris.

>>714218317
I think it's totally possible the entire thing's going to end up being a joke. Like maybe they're just hiding a festival prop for Asriel inside the bunker or something.

>>714217982
NTA, but I think Susie might already be looping. She just doesn't remember.

>>714218059
>noelle begs for you to stop has you “pierce” her with your “thorn” causing her to bleed and originally causing a flower to wilt
Well what the fuck are we supposed to take it as

>>714218031
Post your predictions.

>>714212830
Rouxls was the funniest part of the chapter next to Tenna, and flaws is what separates Elnina/Lanino from the gay music trio.

>>714217704
>Rudy gets his wife pregnant TWICE
>Asgore gets his wife pregnant once and then adopts a child
We know who the better husband and father is here

>>714218361
It's over. Btw the artist for the Gooner Vessel is Enigi09.

>>714214779
And guess who gets knighted just after doing this?

>>714218663
I hate Enigi because his shit is so boring it almost feel like he's a AI image generator given flesh

>>714215330
>You entered the codes knowingly.
Loop theory bros get vindicated more and more every day

>>714214950
well yeah he's not "the player's" self insert because he's someone's self insert already

I finally got around playing Undertale for the second time for true pacifist. Deltarune blows it out of the water

>>714214631
Ch. 3 really brought Kris out of his safespace.

>>714217549
>toys coming to life in the Dark World
>shitpost meme that's just an homage to Toy Story
>Ralsei spoonfeeds this point home in Ch. 3
>fans still don't get it

Fans never learn if they know they can double-down on the next episode.

>>714217576
Get a load of this baka gaijin not keeping an honorably forged samurai sword as part of their cutlery.

>>714217269
>The question will be what you do
replay on all three savefiles, find every place where the flavor text diverges, see key points where cinematics/side quests branch off, etc

>the significance in or out of Snowgrave.
I'm of the belief that you'll have to do some Weirdrouting/Snowgraving to build up Noelle at points, but know when to stop in Ch2 or know what to say to ease off the Weird route in Ch4.

>>714216089
"Holy based, but what bad timing"

>>714218778
I thought that was just supposed to imply that Kris knows how to bypass the parental controls for his TV.

>>714218330
>explain why you can move it then
Not him, but you can do that?

>>714217576
Toby Fox
He cooks with a katana
My sources? OmoCat

How’s Tony going to top raping the doe

>>714217759
>plays rouxls' theme when hes not with us
yeah kris is ok with this nigga

>>714217793
Sans has 1 HP. Whoriel may accidentally kill him during sex.

wouldn’t fucking an anthro girl just feel really hairy and weird

>>714216089
Vindicated me hating Sans since I was a teenager in real life...
But at what cost?

>>714219009
How do you rape someone as a bottom?

>>714219009
the doe raping kris

>>714218405
kek, genofags can never win

>>714219009
she's going to rebel against us once she's strong enough

>>714218105
The world is not ready for S Noelle.

>>714218775
Kinda agree, but for me it's because he just does Chara but not Frisk (female) porn.

>>714216951
Gaster confirmed but not as some Interstellar entity but as a scientist trying to study the dark worlds

>>714218258
samesies

>>714217530
knife/knight's sword is obviously Kris, we will fight him while inside Susie

>>714216865
if loop theory is real I would put all my chips in Susie being the Knight. The antlers would be some sort of memento from Noelle and whatever happened to make her become the knight.

>>714219009
She takes the soul for herself and we start playing as Noelle instead of Kris

Okay but what if:
>Check Sans
>2 HP

>>714219156
He's both? Literally entry 17 was Gaster creating a Dark World. No idea who sealed it tho given you need a human soul.

>>714219049
sleeping puts your HP over the max

>>714217476
Berdly's concubines awaiting the first hatchling, heartwarming.

>all these whoriel memes
>no lightsaber sans cock
this is bullshit

>>714219227
I don't think you can increase your HP without also increasing your LV, so that instantly puts him on my radar for killing Dess

>>714219227
He's still a lazy shit that always does his attacks in the same order. Also he can only dodge one hit at a time... and it's a lot harder to evade AoE.

I'm betting the CH5+6+??? dark world is the entire fucking town, which receives a Mode 7 overworld.

>>714218405
I can kill Sans at level 1. I'd just rape Toriel. There's no point in killing her.

>>714219249
wait what if deltarune is a dark world inside of undertale and the "angels heaven is closing that dark world"

>>714219070
Yeah, people notoriously hate hugging pets and stuffed animals.

>>714219458
You don't get sweaty doing either of those activities

>>714219380
Lightsabers are for Frisk.

>>714219429
>no comic sans

>>714219249
Well, there's a Human Soul in Undertale that's gone unaccounted for...

>>714218516
With the wilting flower removed as it now is, that's just stabbing someone.
Like if you hold someone down and pierce them with a thorn they would indeed be telling you to stop, that's just a depiction of a non metaphorical situation

>>714219009
At the festival date in Chapter 5 Noelle is going to ask for YOUR name and want to learn more about YOU
Toward the end of the Chapter you're going to find another ThornRing in the Flower Dark World and Noelle is going to put it on Kris's finger. This culminates in YOUR name replacing Kris's on the UI with Kris broken in as your vessel

>>714219227
Absolute sans kino tier list

GOD TIER

>chapter 5 opening with "its a beautiful day outside" speech
>sans calls the red soul in the cage a "cool bird"

GREAT TIER

>combat situation with sans (either light world or dark world), he inexplicably has something ridiculous like 9999999999 HP and is considered a tank
>sans enters a dark world, his clothing changes in a small way (pink slippers, or a different shade of blue for his jacket)
>sans is from a THIRD universe

SHITSTORM FOR WEEKS TIER

>go downstairs when chapter 5 starts, the song "sans." is playing instead of the home theme
>asgore vs. sans
>asgore hits sans so hard his HP permanently reduces to 1

OKAY TIER
>sans is a timecop and only got closer to toriel to stop (You)

>>714216089
>What was your reaction to this scene?
Why? Why did Toby add Mom NTR to the game?

These are the only possible, narratively supported personalities for Asriel:
A) Embarrassing dweeb : Supported by the dopey wallpaper, implied fear of Dess, Yoshi and then Magical Girl fixation, and being off in college.
B) Resented abuser : Implied by Tenna saying the family is fighting and other dialog about him, Kris insisting Ralsei looks nothing like Asriel, and Kris always having been prone to outbursts and being second potato in the Dreemurr household
C) Dead : Supported by almost everything, from Alphys saying Kris can't talk to Asriel despite both of them having cellphones to Susie making fun of his kiddy wallpaper to having no memories of him as an adult to his childhood deodorant still being in the medicine cabinet, all photos of him being childhood photos, etc, etc, the more you look the more you will find this goat has ceased to be

>>714219694
dont forget
>The Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans is a deltarune song

>>714219694
Okay tier is canon except against Kris.

>>714219663
Would be too based, never gonna happen.

>>714219432
Wouldn't make any sense because shouldn't Kris and Susie turn to stone when they enter another dark world?
>>714219596
Chara's? Didn't Asriel fuse with it and then it dissipated along with Asriel?

I CAN'T BELIEVE CHARA DID THIS

Susie...

>>714208271
>lets undyne get kidnapped to save the town bicycle
why?

>>714219763
Why the fuck would both Asgore and Toriel keep up the "he's at college" bit though?

>>714219694
>>go downstairs when chapter 5 starts, the song "sans." is playing instead of the home theme
Toby WILL do this just for the joke and you WILL like it

>>714217472
>Asriel bringing home a human girlfriend
>Its fucking Frisk

>>714218358
>>714218516
I just can't take that seriously, it's clearly not what Toby's intention was considering he changed it twice. (You) made Kris stab her with a thorn for reasons we don't understand yet.
Of course she's going to be weirded out by the mind reading voice occupying her friend that wants to put a thorn in her finger.

If it's le implied rape, that just makes me think it's going to be a lame Genocide retread instead of something genuinely interesting and filled with potential.

>>714220117
>Asriel comes home
>Is a flower with a goat mask and no one notices

>>714219697
>Suselle is Childhood friend NTR
>Soriel is Mom NTR
Both will be subverted by Krusie and Asgore getting his honor back in chapter 5. Trust the plan, trust in Gerson, trust in freedom leitmotif, trust in Tobert

>>714219380
>no lightsaber sans cock
Wdym?
https://files.catbox.moe/nzssdh.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/0eiqof.png
https://files.catbox.moe/vqp58f.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/umcx8k.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/a62sli.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/u0s9qi.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/j5fp6e.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/ggjefz.png

>>714220165
>it's clearly not what Toby's intention was considering he changed it twice
he folded against the slight pushback from twitter/bluecry

>>714219396
That's an idea people have had for awhile since festivals are also a kind of escapism, but so far dark worlds have been limited to basically one room, so it's hard for us to say it's even possible. We already know Chapter 5 is going to take place in the Flower King and Chapter 6 should logically take place in the Shelter. The question is how exactly this plays out. Toby had Susie deliver some clunky dialogue/reasoning in Chapter 4 which basically amounts to "Asgore isn't the Knight but knows all three codes to the Shelter." I assume Chapter 5 will be about comic books and you'll rescue/stop Asgore, and with him now realizing what dark worlds are you'll clue him in on the Shelter situation, and he'll give you the codes, which will be Chapter 6. It could be that all this stuff will be resolved in Chapter 6, but Rudy starts dying at the festival and Noelle, after also learning about the dark worlds from being in the party with us again, creates one to try and save him. Somehow, Catty, Catti, Jockington and the bunny shop girl end up in a dark world. This will probably involve the prophecy's finale (which is about Noelle, not Susie).

>>714220048
Coping mechanism, bad parents who keep lying to Kris and themselves, trying to spare Kris whose intelligence they constantly undermine from the pain he went to art therapy for, who knows maybe his body is at some university while they try to figure out what happened to him.

I CRAVE GOAT BUSSY

>>714219763
Why would Bratty mention hitting on Asriel in front of his brother is he was dead?

>>714220224
Two jak references was more than I was expecting

>>714218906
Could be either or really, but you're probably right to a degree

>>714209505
>doesn't give a shit about her kid disappearing for a whole day
>lets a complete stranger eat her son's breakfast and place his own shit inside the fridge
>fucks said stranger so loudly her kid literally can't sleep and Susie has to intervene and tell them to shut the fuck up
The fact that people out there try to defend her is the funniest shit ever, especially cause you know if the scene was exactly the same but her sprites got replaced with Asgore they would be demanding his head on a spike.

>Asriel started to prefer the magic using swords woman
>Dess is a magic using swords woman
It's like poetry

>>714216089
You dropping this yesterday was like a loredrop

>>714216089
My reaction was the following:
>ehhh.....
I mean, come on, it's late, it was raining, and instead of worrying about her child, she brought some jerk home that she's just met to drink and dance with. Come the fuck on. If Kris, the troubled youth, ends up sticking their knife in Sans's eye socket, it will be understandable.

>>714219432
It makes more sense the other way since Undertale is obviously supposed to be a video game, like humans sealing the monsters in the underground is like humans putting monsters into a video game, and the barrier is a gray rectangle, like the opening of a SNES. Also, every time the heroes enter a dark world, they do so by jumping in and falling; you also have to fall into a hole to get to the Underground.

>>714220324
That being kept up by the entire community is too damn stupid for me to take seriously.
Asgore's dumb ass would forget the script half the time. Even if its true it would be such as an asspull.

>>714216089
mild chuckling

that said i understand why certain people may find this scene traumatizing

>>714220354
>>714220489
Why should the whole community know?

>>714220423
Virtual pussy does shit to dumb motherfuckers

>>714219694
>>asgore hits sans so hard his HP permanently reduces to 1

this is me

>>714220426
>The hamster inside Susie's head suddenly deciding to work that wheel and make her realise that her words made this entire scene several times worse for Kris

>>714201681 (OP)
>Says Spamton is the best character while posting the actual best character in the OP
What is this cognitive dissonance

>>714209505
I did not know sans reminds /v/ of their chad stepdad

>>714220603
A solid amount would.
Asgore was pretty notable in their police force, Toriel is one of the town's 2 teachers, and they are chummy with the mayor.
The entire clergy would know, likely. Its too crazy to assume not a single person wouldn't mess it up. Especially the cats they are dumb as fuckin bricks.

>>714220117
Kino.

>>714220267
I doubt it, it's arguable that the shattering thorn is even worse than the rose if you're a pornsick zoomie that sees sexual innuendo in everything.

>>714220603
Susie shittalking Asriel with Kris as cooler brother and Kris acting like a happy gremlin over his dead brother would be retarded. The focus is clearly on Dess, while Asriel is another Papyrus absent meme character

>>714220424
Let the man have his eldritch undead waifu

>>714220426
We need to kill Toriel

>>714220217
Based implied Flowisk.

>>714219763
Wait fuck that would make too much sense on why Dess is working to spread the dark world, why Asgore is in on it, and why the dark world NEEDS to spread for Asgore to have his family back. They set up Gerson being dead for a fucking reason, this plot revolves around someone being dead trying to be revived

>>714220165
There's no implication that you literally made Kris sexually assault Noelle, but the subtext that you're forcing yourself (through Kris) on Noelle is very clear. The Weird Route being framed as you forcing Kris and Noelle into an abusive relationship (and YOU directly taking some twisted interest in Noelle) was already established with what happened in Chapter 2.
>We're not friends, we're "something else"
>"Noelle will ride with me"
>Implicitly threatening and intimidating her
>NO, I GET IT! IT'S YOU AND THAT [Hochi Mama]! YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU!
>MAKING [Frozen Chicken] WITH YOUR [Side Chick]
>Every major event pushing the route forward has involved literally putting a ring on her finger

>>714220837
This implies Chara did genocide and not the player kek

>>714220354
>>714220489
>>714220772
>>714220795
the theory was ALWAYS "only kris knows"

>>714219763
>B) Resented abuser : Implied by Tenna saying the family is fighting and other dialog about him, Kris insisting Ralsei looks nothing like Asriel, and Kris always having been prone to outbursts and being second potato in the Dreemurr household
This is literal headcanon, everything you brought up is completely unrelated to the idea that Asriel somehow abused him
The family fighting was Asgore and Toriel breaking up and Kris being a little shit that clogged the toilet with bath bombs

>>714220693
Jewish nose

>>714220693
Interesting shape
Here is me

>>714220693
Humans sucking (my) sovl cock.

>>714220338
susie...

>>714221000
Don't fucking reply to me humanfag gook

>>714220868
It's not literal rape in the sense that you made Kris whip out his cock and stick in Noelle but the analogy of raping her soul is the most blatant and unsubtle thing imaginable

>>714220901
Chara DID destroy the world in genocide.

>>714221057
>Ad hominem
Pajeet-sama, teach me

>>714220868
i like the combat but this game gives me huge Evangelion vibes in the sense that kris is just a pussy who allows himself to get cucked and eventually gets so desperate he becomes gay

>>714220997
I would (You)

Imagine their date on the festival

>>714220901
>chara needs the player to do genocide
>the knight needs kris to help open dark fountains

>>714221063
Imagine how violated noelle must've felt realizing you can read her thoughts

>>714220842
No. Kris needs to fuck Toriel and get Sans out of the house. That'll fix everything.
https://files.catbox.moe/24ke64.jpeg

>>714221063
Exactly, everything you're doing is "violating" her.
Not even just what you made Kris do, you're even inside her head reading her thoughts.

>>714210973
I don't understand what the chess pieces, the angel (besides being loosely related to the church theme), and the bullet are referring to

Virovirokun...

>>714216089
>are you fucking kidding me

>>714221370
Chara watched genocide and very rarely acted on their own, but yeah, (you) did it

>>714217472
That would've meant Asriel moved on from Dess, and I don't think that's the case.
>A crying and crying and crying boy

Who's the better family, Dreemurs or Holidays?

>>714220837
>posting the edit

>>714220440
>sticking their knife in Sans's eye socket

>>714221282
>fuck Toriel
Imagine the number of STDs. Though I'd probably risk it, too.

>>714221370
>Charafags still think they're clever by pointing out the player is the one behind the player actions.
Chara still supported and encouraged everything.

>>714221459
She probably has so many stds

>>714221459
ViroviroKUNNY

>>714220868
>>YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU!
Then the next line is
>YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [Hyperlink Blocked]!
[Hyperlink Blocked] = LOVE, in both a romantic and Level of Violence sense

>>714212278
>Ever Higher
HEY WAIT A MINUTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVPmUpN_W3o

>>714221459
>humanized
ruined

>>714221569
holiday, for everything Noelle has gone through, at least she isnt a self-imposed eunuch

>>714221458
There was also the angel doll in the basement

>>714220107
Joke fight with Sans playing Megalovania except it's flipping pancakes

>>714221574
>Reddit already is censoring our memes.
Good job bringing in the original, anon.

>>714221458
Purple and bullet were probably game mechanics like Green heart and arrow defelction in chapter 4. They were cut from finished product. Angel is refering Deltarune winged symbol and prophecy.

>>714212278
>Susie and Kris' headbobs
God damnit thats cute

>>714221658
They also ignore that Chara will outright ignore Genocide if you spare Snowdrake, or run away from Lesser Dog. You can kill as much as you want until nobody's left, but Genocide literally cannot happen unless you fulfil her esoteric desires.
>Feel free to spare or run away from any monster you want
>As long as you kill X amount per area
>Except for this specific list of monsters. Spare or Run Away from a single one and you're a failure.

>>714216951
Papyrus is the dark knight pussywhipped by carol, but chapter 5 is undyne giving him a hero's spirit

>>714221658
>>714221872
Nice argument, however:
UOH CHARA CUNNY CUTE AND FUNNY CHILD EROTIC PLAP PLAP PLAP

>>714222065
I remember this fag's art from way back in the peak Undertale days
he drew Chara as male

isn't chara supposed to be a boy?

>>714222065
Based. We love human cunny here.

>>714221872
I feel like a dumbass for realizing that the only reason Snowcuck gets a special note is because of how he’s programmed into the game relative to the other enemies

updated charafag md5 filter https://files.catbox.moe/hwc2t1

>>714221082
The player is responsible for Genocide, Sans outright says he knows you're the kind of person that just does it cause you know you can, that route is the player's fault.
>>714222167
fucking kill yourself humanfag gook

>>714222118
This looks lolish to me.

This is true

>>714222245
explanation?

>>714221658
>You.
>With your guidance.
>I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.
Chara was just along for the ride.

>>714222258
>FilterBITCH.

>>714222118
>>714222134
>But but but but MALE
You fail to realize just how little this matters to me
>>714222167
Good!

>>714222271
>gookschizo was the true "dindu do nuffing" Charafag
VERY telling.

>>714222586
KEK

>>714222353
Toby prefers right btw. He wants to be Japanese.

>>714222586
based

Weird route enjoyers: enjoy buck-breaking a virtual character
Normal route enjoyer: posts eluding to fucking kids
amazing

>>714222586
kekaroo

>>714222586
Nice

>>714222586
Add the yellow crucifix eyes

>>714222397
Basically on a regular mechanical level you can run away from enemies on Genocide and it won’t abort the run, so long as you still kill enough of however much the total is per area, but Snowdrake is weird because he’s a unique enemy that’s a random encounter instead of being some kind of scripted fight, so if you do something like kill multiple of whoever normally gives you the highest EXP/gold and run away from Snowdrake whenever you encounter him here and there, you still have to make sure he’s the last one you kill in Snowdin or else the route aborts automatically, hence the gameplay reminder

>>714222692
Both is based

>>714222134
Chara’s a murder boy(female)