Thread 714238471

We're one month away. Let's do this, EUbros. Remember that ideally we need to go over the number of sigs in case some of these get thrown out later.

No background shenanigans and not the same poster so now jannies have no excuse. If they delete this thread it's provably because they just don't want /v/ to discuss SKG. In which case, spam this shit nonstop until they give up. If Dall-E threads are allowed, this is allowed too.

I think signing an initiative to stop developers from being kikes is a good thing.

>Weekend: Pizza posted, nonce was deleted and threads were allowed to continue
>Today: Monkey gore and entire threads deleted
There is something fishy going on. Hiroshmoot must've cleared a cheque

>714238216
This unironically has made the most sense to me this entire time. It being less about preserving EU games but moreso creating a universal standard seems like a really good initiative. Thanks anon

how long will this one last before it gets swarmed with monkey gore.

also why would someone have that much videos of that?

>>714238669
>This initiative isn't even certain. It's just to get EU Government to bother looking at it
>Non-EUs can't sign it
You're correct here, /vt/umor
>>EU devs won't be able to EoS a online-only game without significant heads up to potential customers
>EU devs can alternatively EoS a game without issue should they provide a feasible way for consumers to host their own servers
Incorrect here, /vt/umor. It's not "EU devs", it's anyone that wants to have their game on the EU market, which for all intents and purposes means everyone. This is similar to Europe forced gacha games to have lootbox clarity in their regions so now every game has it everywhere, or how Australia forced Steam to allow refunds so now everyone can refund games on Steam.

Mods are completely inconsistent with what rules they enforce its no wonder people fucking hate them.
When is this site going to tackle the problem of Leto and the 'Ecker supplying all known spammers and shitposters with their proxies.
Legitimately we get rid of those two and the entire site improves over night.

>>714238471 (OP)
post the links

>>714238634
Earlier today the threads were kinda overflowing.
By that I mean there were multiple threads occurring at once and people entering unrelated threads to bring up SKG.
It feels less like someone being paid off and more like people are just tired of being spammed with it.
Unironically, the same thing happened with the piratesoftware stuff.

>>714238702
Because jannies are lazy and just delete threads that get spammed with that shit. It's a thread killer. Retarded jannies don't realize that they just incentivize gore posting.

>>714238765
Too bad. This shit is important and now there's 3 threads on the SKG catalog because jannies are retarded and deleted the one we are using. This will keep happening unless they get a clue.

If necessary, delete the overflowing threads so that there's only one on the catalog. That's obviously the best thing to do. But there SHOULD be ONE in the catalog, and jannies aren't gonna force people to stay quiet about this. We're one month away from the deadline.

>>714238863
>Too bad.
Kinda, yeah. It's why the threads are being deleted from what I can tell.

>>714238889
They'll keep getting made, then. This shit is bigger than the janny's non-salaries now. And that's a good thing.

>>714238706
based

>>714238471 (OP)
If this week proves anything, spite is a better motivator than goodwill.
Keep hating Pirate Software.

>>714238471 (OP)
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVNxAVal1U

The people who are against this sort of thing are just the "lol, I like to watch the world burn, stay mad" types, right? I don't want to believe people genuinely believe this is a bad thing because they actively want to protect big corpo. Excluding Nintendo fans, cause their special brand of big corpo is totally their best friend.

>>714239062
Yes. Same retards that shill AI.

>>714238539
it's entirely that because only the vidyabutts LARPer and their ilk have that garbage shit around their images that just paints a bigger target on them to get their threads deleted
the fact the LARPer keeps constantly avatarfagging to steal clout speaks volumes

In the last 12 hours

Jacksepticeye made a post supporting SKG

Penguinz0 made a video supporting it

So did some ordinary gamer

r/gaming pinned a thread about it (it had 47 million subscribers)

It's kind of insane how this niche topic exploded with normalfags

Alright, so if this thread lives, it does look like the jannies were only deleting the threads cause they knew it was some ban evader faggot that was using SKG as an excuse to keep spamming, which is understandable.

But obviously it was a bit confusing for the rest of us. Some transparency would have been nice there, lads.

>>714239141
The first threads were normal without the background, dont know why those were deleted

Someone needs to hack pirate software website to where the buttons just redirects to SKG website

>>714239338
>Why are threads getting deleted made with a honey pot proxy that keeps getting fingerprinted
Many such cases

>>714239062
To be fair many of the people supporting it are like
>idc but fuck Jason Thor Hall lmao signed

WHAT THE FUCK

>>714238863
at this point one should be pinned and the rest pruned for containment. It's crazy how people don't know how to keep this shit from becoming another shitstorm. Or maybe that's the plan.

>>714238471 (OP)
Jannies should just pin the thread and allow discussions to centralize into that thread. Instead they're acting like a bunch of butthurt queers who forgot to dilate. God I hate the people who run this site.

We all finally have a chance to improve ONE (read: 1) thing in this god forsaken industry where a million things are wrong with it and stupid ass jannies are having a dilation session like little pussies.

I swear to god, the janny fag who keeps spamming CP and gore to create a pretense for thread deletion needs to be quartered and hanged.

ITALY STATUS: REDEEMING ITSELF
I KNEW YOU HAD IT IN YOU, PASTABROS
I LOVE YOU

>>714239479
LINE GOES UP

>>714238471 (OP)
The soggy cereal video is so fucking good lmao. I have no idea how people can continue to defend pirate after that.

>>714239168
this is totally epic for the win

>>714239664
Luxembourgfags should be embarrassed rn

>>714239479
GET IN LOSER, WE'RE SAVING VIDEOGAMES

We are on track to beat yesterday's record. Same time yesterday it was only at 5k signatures

>>714239479
HOW DO I BUY THIS STOCK

>>714239681
Yeah he's got the best one so far
I didn't even know about that oculus ashes of creation clip where he sharts the bed super hard then blames others
kino

>>714238471 (OP)
Tranny mod about to delete this thread

>>714238863
>If necessary, delete the overflowing threads so that there's only one on the catalog. That's obviously the best thing to do. But there SHOULD be ONE in the catalog, and jannies aren't gonna force people to stay quiet about this. We're one month away from the deadline.
Sounds like this is exactly what they did btw
Good
Thank you, jannies
MODS = GODS

Fuck the vidya butt posters for poisoning the well.

>>714239783
My money is on 80-85k today.
Hopefully we get the 100k.

>>714239719
Unironically yes

>>714238745
the latter doesn't seem to tolerate illegal content at least. the former outright changed the Submit button so it said "Post CP" once.

>The EU parlament guys will just take a quick look at the petition and not do anything about it since they have more important problems to solve.

>Its better to not waste time signing it.

>>714239902
I can imagine Ross putting that faggot furry in a headlock right about now

>>714239859
>poisoning the well
OR mods should've left the first thread up without touching it. Deleting it over and over again was asking for trouble

>>714239902
mmm i want that pale feminine arm inside my tight bussy

GAS GAS GAS

>>714239992
/r/equesting someone with better photoshop skills than me editing the Sam Hyde pic for this.

>Pirate tries killing stop killing games
>All it does it save stop killing games
>Stop Killing Games kills pirate software

>>714239719
>millenials are saving video games
why cant zoomers do it? Is it because they are already too brainwashed and love being ass raped by big corporations?

>>714239964
Reminder that 11 months ago, just at the first surge of votes, Ubisoft got scared into adding some sort of offline mode for The Crew 2

>>714239964
The first part is true but the latter part isn't. It's better to sign it so when, inevitably, nothing happens, people grow even more jaded and cynical which helps hasten the collapse of these decrepit bureaucracy states, kind of like the Soviet Union or the Ming dynasty. In fact it'd be best to spam initiatives like this for all sorts of basic easy things, just to force the bureaucrats to openly ignore them.

>Destiny supports this
>Asmon support this
Literally pic related

>>714240084
unironically how will piratesoftware ever recover from this? his internet career is over

>>714240039
which sam hyde pic? the one he took with the minor he groomed and fucked?

>>714239783
It actually seems like it might hit the goal this week or early next week. I never would have expected this turnout.

>>714240148
He will survive thanks to YouTube shorts which is watched by 8 year olds and no one reads the comments of. Everything else is over though

>>714240185
This one

>>714240140
trying to turn consumer protection into a partisan issue is retarded

>>714239783
>this much support in so little time
What is the probability that most of these signatures are fraudulent and this whole initiative ends up getting thrown out at the finish line for that very reason? I'm a bit worried how fast things are going.

A week ago, I was annoyed at the faggots saying that the literal who Pirate Software was responsible for killing the movement, which was such obvious bullshit it was hilarious. Ross himself obviously did not do a good enough job at promoting the campaign.

I will, however, concede that it seems like this movement is gonna succeed off of the back of this whole e-celeb drama, which is funny. Guess e-celebs and kiwitroons were finally good for one thing. The only way this shit could be promoted properly is if it was to make fun of some fatass. Weird how the world works. We need to have someone to hate to not shoot ourselves in the foot. This is probably a similar logic as to why I see so many AI shills on /v/. They're more worried about annoying the trannies than saving vidya from slopfication. In other words, we need some tranny to become a big AI fan for /v/ to get better about the AI jew question.

>>714240208
Even after the Penguinz0 video I thought it probably wasn't going to succeed but now that it's being talked about on mainstream EU news in pretty much certain it will

Commies get the fuck out

IMPORTANT POST

Just incase you get swayed by mouthbreathing retards who seemingly can't read in any capacity.

THIS BILL IS NOT FORCING DEVS TO SUPPORT A GAME FOREVER.
It is clearly asking that when devs decide to pull the plug on online services they:

A. Provide a set of server tools for people to run their own servers and be able to connect to servers.
B: Leave the game in a state where it can be played offline without a reliance on the online servers.

That is literally it. No, it's not asking devs to support the game forever. Only corpo bootlicker shills are thinking that.

>>714239358
that would actually be epic

>>714239062
I don’t like big corpo, but I like sweeping, open-ended government regulation even less. So I am against this silly shit on principle

People don’t even know what they’re voting for. The whole discourse has devolved into eceleb drama

>>714240237
I think the one where he's with the minor he groomed and fucked would be funnier.

>>714240084
Tbf Pirate would've succeeded if Ross hadn't addressed it last week. Which is on Ross to be sure, but it was pretty touch and go.

>>714239168
PewDiePie also came out to say people should support it.

>>714240365
This. Wanting steam to give out refunds is evil!

>gordon freeman saves gaming and kills some retard's career
Weird timeline

GIVE ME YOUR WAR FACE

>>714240365
If it wasn't for government intervention Steam would have never offered refunds, is that what you would have wanted?

chilling Kony 2012 vibes

>>714240185
>>714240371
thus begins cp shit.

>>714239664
How exactly does this work? Does every single country need to reach the threshold? What happens if everyone but, say, Cyprus, does it? Does it automatically fail or what?

>>714240427
>he could have prevented this timeline if he had just used his mana potion

I bet Pirate seethes at Ross now and sees him as his ultimate enemy. A random smiling dufus is who this ferret fucker now sees in his nightmares.

>>714240365
I hate both government and corporations. If I can force one to neuter the other? Good.

>>714240537
7 countries need to meet threshold which was already passed
just need the 1 million total now

>>714240537
>Does every single country need to reach the threshold?
no, only 7 countries and overall 1 million

>>714240365
Open-ended government regulation forced kike companies to:
>Allow people not to get saddled with cookies tracking them
>Show people the real odds of all lootboxes
>Allow steam games to get refunded

Your "muh ebul gubnment should stay out" narrative has been entirely dismantled by now. It's obviously on a case by case basis. And this is another case where they are to our benefit. Also, if you're a mutt, which you likely are cause only you would give a shit about this sort of talk, the fuck do you care? We Europeans are brunting the """flaw""" of having the government act while you get the benefit of SKG succeeding.

>>714238471 (OP)
>EUbros
its 4 AM in EU you retard, please kys

americans are retarted

it's really weird that only right-wing grifters support this movement

>>714240632
EU has way more neets than USA does thanks to their free gibs healthcare system. Important to make sure to catch those guys too for this.

>>714240365
>I like it when gaming companies can milk me for all my worth

Mutt

>>714240632
>4 am
>Still 13k signatures today alone
BASED

>>714240632
akschually it's 6am in most of the countries

>>714240673
Destiny and Penguinz0 are liberal

>>714240673
It doesn't matter who supports it. This is a bipartisan movement that only serves to benefit you in the end.

>>714240632
Helloooooooooooo, nurse

I never understood what people get from defending corperations being able to fuck them over.

>>714240365
The reason you have a PC and not cardboard connected with cables and tape is because of government regulations preventing companies from shitting on a plate and selling it to you. They have to hold up to a certain standard that currently is very low for videogames.

>>714238539
How do you know... unless you are coordinating with them!

>>714240489
I have never refunded a game, and never will. That’s not even a good comparison, though, since it was targeting a very tiny group (game distribution platforms) instead of literally all video game developers of all sizes.

>>714240779
this nigga uses greenshot instead of sharex

>>714240802
because muh freedoms. we should have the freedoms to get butt fucked by big corpo. now stop asking questions and vote republican.

>>714240851
>I have never refunded a game, and never will
congratus?

Pirate Fagware must be feeling like shit right now.

>>714240140
You mean the commie pervert guy who said he's Irish but has a jewish last name, and whose dad worked for Disney?

Seriously? Hold on I need to double check what Ross is saying.

>>714240851
>nooo that doesn't count because... umm because... because THAT WAS JUST TARGETING PUBLISHERS.

Okay so all the game devs gettng fucked by having to show real odds of lootboxes doesn't count too?

Save some boot for the rest of us damn.

>>714240851
>I have never refunded a game, and never will
I do not comprehend the mutt mind. What makes you think this is a flex?

>>714239964
ohnonono EU bros we lost again

>>714240802
Because HURR DURR I HAVE AN IRRATIONAL HATE FOR LE GOVERNMENT SO I WOULD RATHER CONTINUE TO GET FUCKED IN THE ASS, DAILY, BY CORPORATIONS OVER LETTING THE GOVERNMENT STOP THIS TRANSGRESSION ON MY RIGHTS
Some 'people' do be like that

>>714240851
>Im a corperate dick rider.
Yeah we can tell.

>>714240949
doubt it. An extreme narcissist like him would sooner believe the world is wrong before he admits to making a mistake.

>>714240851
>I have never refunded a game, and never will.
what the fuck am I reading? You're proud of keeping a piece of shit game on your librabry when you can literally return it and make the devs go bankrupt

>>714241013
God, shit like this actually makes me proud of being European
Easily the most based thing we've done in the past century
Not that this would ever affect me cause I'm an Androidchad, but still

>>714240523
sam hyde would endorse it

>>714240561
gonna laugh when the furry faggot sues sites for harboring targeted harassment

>>714239964
Actually if this reaches 1 million.
They have to debate it, come up with a legislation and then vote on it.

They can't just ignore it and dismiss it.

>>714240802
One day I will be the big corporation and I want to reserve the right to fuck everyone else over.

>>714241076
Why would I buy a game if it’s shitty?

>>714240851
>I have never refunded a game
Fair enough.
>and never will.
Why is this a conviction for you? That doesn't make any sense.

>>714241093
>They can't just ignore it and dismiss it.
they can

>>714240242
This. I hate to doompost but the ratio is way too high, concernerly high. It doesnt feel natural.

>>714241134
They cannot. They legally have to respond to it within 6 months.

>>714241102
same but in reverse. i already am the big corpo and am fucking you over. now go, keep resisting, my little shill.

>>714241093
You don't think career politicians won't be able to skirt that by just pretending to debate or half-assing the entire thing? I have zero faith in anything coming from this honestly.

>>714241142
>It doesnt feel natural.
It's american hours, they don't know what its like to have rights

>>714241134
Unfortunaly not as it's a citizens initiative.

They have to actually debate it and respond to it within 6 months.

>>714238765
There are people getting paid, yes. The threads became swarmed with shills days ago to the point they posted child pornography, fat men and even copy-pasted their same arguments against SKG.

Threads become more normal does not change that there is money involved.

>>714241130
how would you know its shitty if you haven't even played it?
Are you one of those subhuman retards that never experiment and only buys the same type of game over and over again?

>>714241168
no requirement to do so

>>714241186
>The threads became swarmed with shills days ago to the point they posted child pornography, fat men and even copy-pasted their same arguments against SKG.
i'm tired of this schizo shit. the real explanation has been posted several times.

>>714240851
>and never will
??????????????
wtf

>>714241192
Yeah, there is.

>>714241185
>wanna debate this?
>nah
>dismissed.

>>714241192
It is a requirement as it falls under a citizens initiative. It's not a standard petition.

>>714240242
>>714241142
Over here in Portugal you need to sign with your ID and a bunch of personal information that basically makes it so that it's very hard to get away with it.

But apparently in countries like Germany and, notably, Finland (with their 308.66% vote, where apparently literally over 1 in 200 people from the country have voted for this), all you need is easy information like a name and address, which could in theory let you just spoof your neighbours.

I am a bit worried about that.

>>714241254
they can ignore it
there's no penalty for ignoring it

Why /v/ is the contrarian party now?

>>714241192
Anon, the entire european comission gets a multi million dollar fine if they don't respond. Are you baiting?

>>714241309
Always was newfaggot. Fuck your internet "activism"

>>714241343
>taxpayer money down the drain
they're used to it

>>714241308
>Corpo slop enjoyer mutts thinking they know anything about EU law.

https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/how-it-works_en

Either way, they meet with EU politians and they talk about it.

>>714241295
>literally over 1 in 200 people from the country have voted for this
Yeah not a good look at all. So many votes are going to thrown out it's absurd.

>>714241372
Amazing copes

>>714241309
viral marketing firms and "current thing" grifters doompost or contrarian post here to see what stupid fucking talking points generate the most engagement in (you)s. Then they take those talking points over to other sites where they can make money off the engagement.

>>714241392
i'm not reading all that shit

>>714241436
Amazing cope

Yeah I pretended to be retarded in order to get this shit passed. Welcome to the finding out timeline bud

>>714241372
what?

>>714241013
Huh, I wonder how this is going to pan out in practice. I never liked Apple's walled garden approach and as such never purchased any iPhone. If this means I would have some real freedom in terms of what software I install and where I get it then I might actually consider getting an iPhone when I upgrade. Do you have to jump through any hoops if you want to write your own apps, even if you don't intend to publish them? My current phone is 6-7 years old, I should probably get a new one before it breaks down on me.

Honestly hilarious that you idiots harassed Rivals of Aether devs because PirateSoftware has a thin thread of a connection to the development of the game.

>>714241518
do you know whose money it is?

>>714241093
>come up with a legislation and then vote on it.
That part isn't required. If they deem the issue a nothingburger they can throw it out before any voting can happen. Read the ECI FAQ, it's all there.

>>714241526
Apparently EU are already going after Apple for making it EU only.

>>714241543
in the wise words of furry queer:
>eat my ass

>>714241543
>attributing anything to /v/ collectively
you must be new here

>>714238471 (OP)
what's the current count eurobros?

>>714241545
theirs? who the fuck else

unless you're doing a roundabout argument of "hurr durr their money comes from our taxes so its actually our money!" shit, which would make you one fo the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.

>>714241543
>you

What obscure dead online games do you guys miss? For me it was the Zomg mmo from GaiaOnline

>>714241473
Intentional or not safe to say without him, this whole movement would've been dead in the water. People needed the eceleb drama and somebody to hate just to do something about this. It's not enough for people to do something good for good's sake. They need to do it in spite of an enemy, and Pirate Software played the perfect one.
So if this shit passes, be sure to thank Thor for his involvement!

>>714241660
760,000

The petition could result in nothing, but having threads about it on /v/ for a month and spending like 5 minutes signing a petition online is a very worthy cost for a relatively high (Let's say at least 30% chance) of changing the industry for the better.
The fact is the European Union loves easy wins like these that let them be pro-consumer. It's a very easy way for them to finally be seen as the good guys on SOMETHING.

>>714241543
All furfags yiff in hell.

>>714241543
>Rivals of Aether devs
legit who

>>714241727
Kino. Keep it up

>>714241697
For me it was the whole Reason this petition started.

The Crew.

1st game was fucking amazing. Had a nice story to it. Felt unique you know.

Then Crew 2 came out and it was obvious they just want to copy Forza Horizon.

>>714241627
Haven't read anything about that but I can imagine the EU will say 'NOPE' to Apple wanting to disable it if you're outside of the EU for longer than 30 days

>>714241142
Yeah. I'm just going to hope that it can significantly go over 1 million so that it'll still be in the clear when any fake votes get discarded.

How does hurting corporations in a hissy fit benefit me?

>>714239479
GOTTA GO FAST

>>714241697
Asherons Call, but the old version

>>714238634
leto's cabal hates this for some reason

>>714241809
Yeah the concern for them is "What if a EU citizen moves abroad. They should still have access to other app stores."

>>714241751
devs of an indie smash clone

>>714241819
>How does game preservation help me, a gamer?

>>714241697
for me its renegade
oh wait, its back because EA released the source code so the fans work on the game as they would not.

>>714241697
Fable 3

>>714241890
>They released it 2 months ago
God, even if the petition fails, just the movement it got already had positive waves
Based

We all know among gamers, gamers cheat.
The fanbases of these YouTubers pushing it... are they even legally allowed to vote.
If you combine these two. How big are the odds that a large majority of these votes are null and void, not even accounting for people putting in their information wrong or doing the signing wrong too.
inb4 shill I did sign it a year ago

>>714241890
EA is based?!

>>714241781
Well I hope you have some solace knowing that your games sacrifice will save many others

Guys I think we should stop making fun of maldy. I just found out he used to be a super hacker who hacked power plants for the US government. He claims he can find the code cave and remove the polymorphic of your OS. God knows what else he can do

>>714241949
It's a good thing that we seem to be clearing the milly with at least a couple of weeks of buffer time, then. The more signatures over a milly, the less a chance this fails when votes get thrown out.

>>714241473
Did he really say that?

>>714242008
If anything he's gonna quintupledown on saying everyone else is wrong and he's right.

>>714239479
Pump it.

>>714241716
>Intentional or not safe to say without him, this whole movement would've been dead in the water.
I agree. It still would've failed if he didn't keep being a retard with everything he did these past 12 months

>>714242076
>the phone call that saved video games

>>714239479
>totally organic movement, guys :^)

>>714241697
battlefield 1943
transformers war for cybertron and fall of cybertron

>>714242008
he will 100% take some form of credit for it passing saying it wouldnt have without him even though he didn't support it

its the kind of faggot he is

>>714241890
Why did they do it?
>EA released a fully recovered source code for its several classic titles, which include several Command & Conquer games, and added Steam Workshop Support for some of the more modern games.
>The code has been released under the GPL license for the following titles: Command & Conquer, C&C: Red Alert, C&C: Renegade, and C&C: Generals. With the release of the code, the company encourages the fans to create content and support the games, keeping them playable for future generations. You can find the code for the projects on EA's GitHub.
>Another novelty is the highly anticipated Steam Workshop Support that will be available for C&C Renegade, C&C Generals & Zero Hour, C&C 3 Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath, C&C Red Alert 3 & Uprising, and C&C 4 Tiberian Twilight. EA has also updated all the Mission Editor and World Builder tools, which allows for publishing maps directly to the Steam Workshop. Apart from this, the company has added another update, which had been "another wish from the community for almost 15 years": the launch of a C&C Modding Support pack. It contains the source Xml, Schema, Script, Shader and Map files for all the games that use the SAGE engine.

>>714239725
Luxembourg has 0.26% signatures per capita. That's higher than Poland.

>>714239664
where do I see how much each country has signed like in picrel?
>Bulgaria 68%
unfortunately the locals don't understand that even singleplayer games rely on a server as a form of DRM and having it means you can't just go to zamunda and pirate that shit, I suppose if you convince them that it'll make cracking games easier they might sign.

>>714241869
It's not an indie game. PirateSoftware's publishing company, which he is the director and co-founder of, is publishing it. It's not an indie game. It's also a live service game.

>>714242225
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

>>714241697
drift city and exteel

I think the whole “all games must be playable forever” thing is too broad to be enforceable. At most I can see this adding a few lines to EULAs about service dates and that’s it. So nothing will change.

>>714242124
I'm genuinely curious by what you're trying to imply with this. What do you think this means?

>>714242329
I think you're incapable of reading and should kill yourself.

>>714242329
>“all games must be playable forever”
Who are you quoting? that's not what the initiative is about.

>>714239479
Ross did say in one of the first videos that the movement was gonna happen in spurts, but it didn't realize it was gonna be this ridiculous. I thought for sure a few months ago that the movement was dead on the water. I was regretting having bothered convincing my friends to vote on it.

EuroGODS WON!!!
AmeriSHARTS lost!
Big Corpos LOST!!

>>714238471 (OP)
fuck you commie

>>714242443
I'll ask you this
Why would you regret trying? even should it fail, the time spent on it would not have been wasted, what little time you have spent

>>714242429
Is that not the ideal outcome? Note that that isn’t the same as “devs must support the game forever”. I’m not as dumb as Thor is,

>>714242493
Lets not stop at 1m as they might throw some out

>>714242476
but its an american that created all this

>>714241295
Finland has a lot of terminally online English speakers who knew of this because they followed English content creators, plus content creators there supported it. It's possible there's fake signatures but I don't predict it to be more than 10%, if it gets to 1.2 or 1.3m it should pass.
Signatures have always come as a result of interest in the campaign, either at the start, and now after RoachSoftware got exposed and a lot of dramatubers jumped on it, and recently big creators like PewDiePie and Jacksepticeye. My own country is like this, was below threshold for a long time but passed like 3 days after recent events, and where I live requires an ID number.

>>714242443
t. someone who never held a stock

>>714242564
it would be ideal, but it's an unrealistic expectation

>>714242476
>AmeriSHARTS lost!
>Big Corpos LOST!!
Nice tautology

If you have twitter account don't forget to spread #stopkillinggames hashtag. I, personally, already did my part.

>>714242329
Fellow pro killing games supporter here. Technically SKG doesn't push for that. They're only trying to enforce some restrictions on the IP owner's rights to arbitrarily destroy copies of games.

SKG is still in the wrong because any restriction on private property rights is communism. Ownership rights include the right to destroy and must be respected.

>>714242667
heh

>none of this momentum would have been possible if Thor just accepted some blame for the WoW wipe.
Cosmic dominos, and the cause/effect, are insane when you get the chance to perceive it.

>>714242564
ideal maybe but not what people are asking for

>>714242694
His name is Jason.

So long, gay judas

>>714242329
i think your a crony ass bitch who should hang himself then get butt raped by a reptilian martian.

This has already been discussed and addressed multiple times by both the official petition and various people that actually have technical expertise in the field. Take your concern trolling and shove it up your axe wound, you tranny.

>>714242690
>they are just trying to force developers to develop a certain way
literally fascism
>YOU ARE DESTROYING GAMES BY PULLING MULTIPLAYER SERVERS NOOOOO
fuck off commie

>>714242694
Truly goes to show how far a simple "Sorry" or "Thank you" goes in every day life. Truly a heartwarming story.

Are "US vs Euro" posters false-flaggers trying to incite infighting?

>inb4 only said false-flaggers reply to my post

>>714242690
If I make a wooden chair, and sell it to you, then its not my wooden chair anymore, its yours.

Corporations don't have any rights to the games they sell to europeans.

SKG is one step in the right direction, and the next step would be to revoke all this fake ownership corporations have over europeans.

Jews like you will be hanged.

>>714242652
Precisely. The realistic expectation (if anything comes of this at all) is that the EU dribbles out some weak regulation regarding license agreements and companies comply in the barest minimum way possible.

>>714238669
>Still avatarfagging as Ina
>instead of an actually good vtuber like pic real
cmon son

>>714242690
The second you sell your product is when that right of yours should end. If you feel your right to destroy something is so important, make a non-commercial game or fuck off.

I, I CAN'T STOP BUYING ONLINE DRM'D GAMES
HELP, GOVERNMENT, I'M RETARDED

don't buy it
don't support Steam
Piss on Steam

>no, no Steam is fine
as always, hypocrites

>>714242838
>retarded analogy
- have gym membership
- gym closes down, because not enough customers
-. you scream that they have to stay open, and that they are destroying gyms

>>714242779
I would call him that to spite him, however I had literally no idea what his name was before Thor. Maybe I'll say Jason/Thor.

>>714242784
>time to derail this movement too lol

@714242882
This is what mental illness looks like.

>>714242847
should set your expectation higher than that fucking low, they have a good record of actually meaningful change when it comes to consumer rights things

>>714242784
Those two need to die already

>>714242882
who are you strawmanning

>>714242868
>literally just a generic as fuck anime cat girl but with a fish's tail instead of a cat's tail

>>714242950
>no, no, no, don't call Steam out for being online DRM and banning games therefore destroying games
>Valve is okay
HY-PO-CR-IT-E

>>714242940
>retarded analogy
Let's see yours
>- have gym membership
That's a service, not a product.

Retarded analogy. Didn't even bother reading further.

what da hell

>>714242690
If you sold the game to me, then it's mine, not yours. And you shutting it off infringes on my private property.
>b-but WoW subscription
That's a different story, I get told the exact date when my access will end.

>>714242814
I'm on your side moron, I'm just trying to make the actual arguments as to why SKG is wrong instead of lying and misrepresenting SKG like you are. If you haven't noticed, misrepresenting SKG hasn't been working so great after a certain eceleb drama event.

>>714242838
A game is not a wooden chair. A game is a service.
>>714242870
Games are not products, games are services.

>>714242940
Gyms sell a service, Games started as selling a product then morphed into the legal grey area of selling licenses while still persisting with the vocabulary and appearances of purchasing a product.

>>714242940
gym membership is explicitly a subscription-based service

>>714243007
If Valve takes a game off the store, anyone who previously purchased it will still have access to it.

>>714242979
Steam is pure online DRM, therefore it should get banned in EU.
Steam is literally destroying games, but of course you defend it, because you are retarded.

>>714243010
>a service
yes, exactly like Steam-slop
but continue making yourself the village idiot

>>714238702
Notice how the lowest of the lows always target what they believe is a "decent thread" and never stay on other board where the quality is generally low. Probably because if they did, they wouldn't get the reaction they'd want lol.

>>714243045
STOP THE COUNT

>>714243056
A game is a product, not a service.

>>714243045
FINNS CAN'T STOP BEING BASED

>>714243045
finland must REALLY want it to get through if they're going that far, what the fuck

>>714243091
That has nothing to do with this.

>>714243045
They should lower the age of consent next

>>714243056
>no, no, you see this doesn't affect developers at all
you are the liar here

>>714243080
no updates, game breaks, no updates, therefore GAME DESTROYED BY (((VALVE)))

>but noooo, that doesn't count, poor Valve
retard

>>714243056
>>714243091
a pair of troglodytes arrived, please kiss

>>714242948
>>714242974
This is the first good thing that Grummz faggot has ever done. Asmongold is being a grifter about it too. Obviously they only joined in now when everyone else already did most of the work, but fuck it, their support is welcome. Get the retarded anti-wokers in on this shit as well. Every vote helps.

>>714238634
I've been noticing the first too. I was just lurking on here and then there like 2 threads with cropped CSAM and then two instances of webms depicting it in a stone toss among us thread. wtf?

>>714243045
HOLY FUCK

FINLAND WON, THAT EXPLAINS THE 300%+

>>714243167
it does
if you care about games not being destroyed, you would be against Steam too, because that's exactly what they are doing.

they push online DRM onto every single game.
fuck you and fuck them

>>714243189
>no updates, game breaks
From what?

>>714243253
Genuine question, how old are you?

>>714243045
jesus christ
the finno-korean hyper war of legends reigniting

>>714243253
??? Steam implemented offline mode because of EU regulations.

>>714243045

will they bring the mirka 2 servers back online?

>>714243189
Oh, you're a pro-SKG false flagger trying to discredit the pro killing games arguments. Just so you know, even if your initiative passes the threshold, it won't actually change anything. The EU will look at it and then throw it out with a non-answer.

>>714243265
from (((Valve))) forcing you onto another operating system, dumb ass.
stuff breaks, developer won't update banned game is gone, you dishonest liar

>One week of eveleb drama already earned more votes than 11 months of honest campaigning

Honk honk

>>714243327
It's not retroactive

>>714243056
Some of these are services. Some of these are products. Can you tell which is which?

>>714243139
>>714243045
>Finland
IT'S PAYNE

>>714243361
Truly clown world, call me Pogo.

>>714243325
>offline
they force you onto new PCs, that's what they are doing. And then stuff breaks, idiot.

if this was an honest petition, they would ask for a Steam ban.

>online DRM by developer
NOOOOO
>online DRM by Valve
YEEESSSS

*HYPOCRITE*

>>714243361
The irony is that it tooks Ross 11 months to respond to Jason because Ross was explicitly afraid that eceleb drama would damage his honest campaigning efforts.

>>714241473
>doesn't click on a mana gem
>we end up in the timeline where SKG reaches 2 million votes because everyone hates this retard
Unironically the villain we needed.

>>714243045
the EU's digital commissioner is finnish. i think the initiative would land on her desk if it goes through
https://commission.europa.eu/about/organisation/college-commissioners/henna-virkkunen_en

>>714243243
it's leto's cabal, known for a fact to be them both because they fucking admitted it and the people that help run his shit were getting mad at them about it because people were noticing who was responsible

>>714238765
i bet 4chan doesn't have a thread merge feature like other imageboards lmao

>>714243391
All of them are services. Some just happen to not have the necessary digital rights management set up to enforce the IP owner's legal right to control their own private property.

>>714243045
With finns you win

>>714243430
or he could be responsible because he is the commissioner for consumer rights
https://commission.europa.eu/about/organisation/college-commissioners/michael-mcgrath_en

>>714243253
hey retard, see what happens when you turn off your internet and try running a game from steam

>>714243349
Being in a working state at EoL doesn't include problems that occur from hardware/operating systems evolving, neither Valve nor the devs would be responsible for future proofing the game because that is nigh impossible.

>>714243484
>some (all) just don't lock you out and don't brick your device, unlike Valve
There is not a single console that does what Valve is doing.

Steam-slop should get banned in EU.

>>714243421
and? how does that deny the fact offline mode exists thanks to EU regulations? Back in the golden age of Steam, you couldn't access your games if you were in Offline-mode. Why? Because you just couldn't, you needed to go online until the game loads before you could go offline.

Europe changed that.

>>714240459
>Oh they're gonna have to glue that ferret fucker back together, IN HELL!

>>714238471 (OP)
euros be like "OMG GOVERNMENT WE NEED MORE LAWS PLEASE REGULATE THINGS HARDER!"
lol
lmao
Why are they like this?

What the fuck does DRM has to do with this

>>714243327
is that even a real game

>>714243519
o-okay

>>714243045
old enough to vote old enough to this kills the american

So was Brexit retarded then? I wasn't aware you could get some signatures and the EU is required to look at it. There's nothing like this at all in the US. All we can do is call our senators about a bill already in progress and it still does nothing.

>>714243519
it says "update pending, can't start"

>>714243524
the NES is "EOL" too, but games still work fine on it, cope dishonest Steamie

why can't someone just fuck over piratesoftware directly?

>>714243430
>>714243045
It probably has to do with the zoomies complaining they can't vote on this issue, they complained so much the ministers got hold of it and decided to let them vote on their silly videogames.

>>714243592
It's tangentially related to the question of live service because dependence on a central server is one of the best forms of DRM possible.

>>714243567
fuck the commie EU

>>714238471 (OP)
>initiative passes
>publishers get BFTO
>eu then passes regulation on product quality where if a game runs like shit on day one it gets revoked so you dont get broken games that take weeks to be playable
>eu also passes regulation that prevents publishers from cutting up pieces of games to sell later
>eu passes more regulation that addresses MTX
the future is now...

>>714243628
The NES doesn't have online

Be real with me bros... could it have been saved or was it a licensing nightmare?

>>714242338
he's just repeating things like a monkey, he has no clue that signatures require an ID

>>714242868
Literally who?

>>714243734
>online DRM is bad
Glad that we agree
Steam should get banned with their illegal online DRM

Same is true for the SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii, Wii U and Shitch 1, dishonest Steamie

>but but but

>>714243686
>no refutation, just resorts to calling it "commie" again
every time. did the playbook your boss hand to you tell you that 4channers talk like that?

>>714243735
All those franchises are owned by Cartoon Network, or Warner. There wasn't any licensing, I can imagine.

>>714243686
Europe is winning the culture war, you could shit and piss your pants about Steam for 50 years, and yet you won't change shit.

Europe? In 20 years gave you offline mode, and steam refunds. In less than 10 years, Europe will hit Steam again.

How many wins do you have against Steam? How much have you changed? Let's see if your hate for steam has helped you accomplish anything at all.

>>714240365
You're a hypocrite because this is a case where actual citizens are the ones asking for regulation, which is the entire point and their right as citizens to exercise that power, at the same time you sit on your ass while the big corpo you pretend to dislike are lobbying for regulations that help them

>>714243516
>>714243430
>finland has over 300% of the vote threshold
>digital commissioner and commissioner of consumer rights are both finnish
BLESSED BY FINLAND

Kill all vtrannies

>>714243423
Ross is too good for his own good, but you don't get that many hosted people these days.

>>714243753
FUCK THE LGBTQ EU

>>714243831
>commissioner of consumer rights
no, he is irish

>>714243827
Big corporations lobby for regulations that are good for society as a whole, populist movements lobby for destructive regulations.

>>714243790
Which ones of those get updated hardware released yearly, which of those are constantly changing their operating systems

>>714241142
EU mainstream news and french, German and Spanish YouTubers finally started talking about it
That's why

>>714243626
brexit was 100% retarded but they realized that after it was too late to stop it

>>714241192
and why would they choose to ignore it? it sounds like a bunch of potential fines (free money) on big, foreign-owned companies
it's not like they actually care about "more important things" as everyone keeps saying

fuck... it only applies retroactively I should've released my indie game already. Well fuck I'm not gonna add mod support and dedicated servers to my game now.

>>714243817
Online DRM not banned therefore irrelevant
Valve create e-waste doesn't bother the (((EU))) either
>wow, we get refunds
I got refunds 30 years ago for physical gameboy games
cope

>>714243735
>licensing nightmare
>all the licenses are owned by the same company

>>714243948
Are you making an always online live service indie game?

>>714243923
>forgetting the based Italians
The Italian stocks rose to nearly 100,000 votes in one day.

>>714243948
Just don't sell in the EU

>>714243904
go die to a drone lol

>>714243649
He's a double-digit IQ narcissistic smug asshole with a chip on his shoulder. He's practically impenetrable unless you somehow affect his IRL relationships or physically assault him.

>>714243908
ah

>>714243946
>free money
that's your money, retard.
your money goes into the pocket of the criminal corrupt EU.

>trick customers with Steam DRM
>should they get fined, you don't get any of that money
>welcomes it anyway

>>714243951
>I got refunds 30 years ago for physical gameboy games
And 20 years ago you lost that right when Steam took over.
And 10 years ago you got that right back, thanks to the EU.

You're welcome.

>>714243519
okay, i did and it works
what now

>>714243626
Brexit wasn't retarded, but bongoloid politicians made every single wrong decision they could

>>714243045
>Finns weren't even using their full power
AIIIEEEEE MY KNEES ARE MOVING ON THEIR OWN

>>714243997
>developers never use 3rd party libraries or services

>>714244072
>And 20 years ago you lost that right when Steam took over.
no, I stopped playing games on (((PC))), retard

physical means ownership means refund and selling
none of that is possible on (((Steam)))

>>714243519
>can still play my rpgs in offline
ur a retert, ok! OK!

>>714243948
what's your fucking problem dude? Every well known (and respected) indie dev is pro SKG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIZLyap0iNU

>>714243948
Nice larp

>>714244129
>Denuvo games (recommended by Valve) don't count
Steamie coping and lying

>>714244179
disgusting brownoid thumbnail no thanks

>>714244032
>He's practically impenetrable unless you somehow affect his IRL relationships or physically assault him.
so what you're saying is...

>>714244179
>respect

>>714243948
I think the world will be fine without another quirky earthbound clone about depression.

>>714244128
>no, I stopped playing games on (((PC))), retard
Closing the door doesn't make the fire outside go away. Surely you understand this right?
>physical means ownership means refund
If ownership means refund then Steam is ownership.

SKG infringes on private property rights. Games are intellectual property (IP). Intellectual property is not sold as a product, it is a service that is accessed by licenses, which can be sold as a product. When a license has its access revoked, the ownership of the license is not affected. Therefore, the property rights of the consumer is not infringed. However, if restrictions are placed on the IP owner's ability to control access to their property, then their property rights are infringed.

>>714244060
did you know that a fine doesn't just happen and then the government says "okay, it's fine now :)"
if they continue to be in breach of contract then the EU will keep fining them millions of euros over and over until they get their shit in order
do you have any concept of how the law works?

>>714243948
Good riddance

>>714241697
8th Day, it was a russian Fallout-inspired MMORPG.

>>714244268
it actually does
not giving Steam any money is based
you supporting Steam is retarded and hypocritical

>>714243626
Of course it was retarded. The UK can't change who their neighbours and primary trade partners are. Neither can you make UK consumers prefer cars by Tata Motors instead of Vauxhall. Many regulations which the EU will implement will also be implemented by the UK just to keep trade barriers and costs of doing business down. Except now the UK just has no ability to partake in negotiating them.

>>714244129
press the play button....

Sorry, lads. I've been falseflagging as a bootlicker in these threads. Partly because I'm a (You) addict, partly because I know that it makes people angrier, which will make them work harder to make this go through. Keep up the good fight.

>>714244293
>the law
fictional construct that doesn't mean anything
>fine
paid by you, the moron.
Developers will just raise prices.
>until you comply and wear a mask
fuck you commie

>>714244225
His name is Balint, EUROPEAN (caucasian, and white) indie game developer.

>>714241697
It's not obscure, but I really miss SC:Blacklist's SvM, 5v5 was extremely fun, sure I can play SC:DA's SvM which is 3v3, but 5v5 is just enough to have fun with a gruop of friends.

Can someone from he EU sign for me?

I'm from America we don't have rights here and are serfs to corporations

>>714243948
It's gonna be years before it takes effect if it actually gets passed.

>>714244338
yes, we will fight Steam and Valve
FUCK VALVE

SIGN THE KILL STEAM PETITION

It's 7 in the morning, how the fuck is it up 15k already today? Is it botting?

>>714244320
that has nothing to do with the fact the EU punches Steam left and right and you've done nothing in 20 years.
There's nothing based about doing nothing.

>>714244382
>European
>chink
choose one

>>714244430
most europeans wake up at 5 AM, specially during summer.

>>714244430
you cant bot it unless you have access to a lot of EU citizens personal data

>>714243423
Honestly it probably would've, we might not had this large final push where major creators are clowning on piratesoftware

>>714244373
>fictional construct that doesn't mean anything
being fined millions of euros means something to an entity whose sole purpose is making money
>Developers will just raise prices.
EU fines are based upon a percentage of a company's yearly earnings, they could start charging $500 for a video game and it wouldn't make a difference
>>until you comply and wear a mask
what?
>commie
nevermind, you made it too obvious

>>714244435
>punches
>Steam still has invasive online DRM
>Steam still creates e-waste for no reason
>Steam is still anti-customer
>Steam only allows a refund within 2 hour time frame, which is ridiculous (GOG has no DRM, and allows 30 days)
wow, yeah they are really doing something.
it's nothing.gif

>>714244509
oh lol that was pointless, eh whatever

>>714244179
because it used to be labor of love and now it's an expectation again if it becomes law

>>714244509
based?!

>>714244330
it werks... woah... such power...

>>714244548
>No, I'm not a LGBT commie
>just comply to our LGBT demands
fuck off
>use my pronoun or pay up
fuck you

>>714244509
>>714244562
Rinny....

>>714244509
hacker, ban him
@jannies @grok

>>714243710
Uuuuh, let's not get ahead of ourselves, bro. This is already good by itself, you don't need to start dreaming up wacky shit.

>>714244608
now try a denuvo game
denuvo is recommended by Valve
weid that your EU doesn't do anything about that

>>714244554
And what have you done to correct the record? Be honest.

>714244614
m8 this is too low-effort for engagement bait, you gotta try harder
never in a million years would anybody believe you're being genuine

>>714244284
What makes you think people care about your jewish mumbo jumbo? Intellectual property can bite my ass.

>>714240148
He will just ignore it. It didn't happen. It's been obvious for a while that this guy operates on a different plane of reality and our facts don't apply to him.

>>714239664
Based Italians at it again.

EU is waking up now. Make it happen bros. Save video games. The US is cucked beyond repair you're the last bastion.

>>714244671
I'm not supporting Steam.
The EU is supporting Steam as well as LGBT.
Weird that the EU doesn't ban LGBT, but embraces brainwashing children, so that they cut their genitals off.

>yfw you are living timeline where america goes to war for israel but ross saves vidya
jesus christ

we wont even be alive long enough to enjoy it

>>714244565
No shit, the big corpos took that labor of love and wiped their asses with it, and served it back to you, the customer. Now, even if you hate it, you will be forced to love your customers or else...

>>714243519
What do you think the Steam Deck is, anon? Do you think I can't play it on a plane or something?

>Wake up
>already 15 fucking thousand votes

>>714244736
>dead games
>but I buy that slop anyway
choose one
>I support online DRM
>noooooo, online DRM
schizo

>>714244668
>denuvo is recommended by Valve
That has been debunked

>>714244668
>denuvo is recommended by Valve
Is it?

>>714244741
fuck off leto

>>714244765
Yes, you can't.
Show me Resident Evil 4 Remilk on a planel, you pathetic liar.

>>714238539
Not your personal army

>>714244819
>Google lying as always
>no source
I got the source for you, you retarded freak.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/drm

The Steam wrapper can and should be used in combination with other DRM solutions
The Steam wrapper can and should be used in combination with other DRM solutions
The Steam wrapper can and should be used in combination with other DRM solutions

>Google lying
>Steamie commie lying
every
single
time

>>714244330
This is mental retardation. Steam does have DRM, yes, but its to the developer's discretion if they want to use it. Some just release their game as is on steam without any crap - meaning you can just launch the .exe without an problems, even copy the game, paste it onto a flash drive so you can play it on the go without any issue. It's all up to the developer if they want supplemental DRM implemented. Again, this entire movement isn't as complex or demanding as some retarded ass game dev shills are leading you to think. The motherfuckers just don't want to do the bare minimum work to facilitate their game to function past its end of life, because they want you to still stay subscribed to their services as big publisher see you as potential revenue to sell MTX, DLC, etc; or so past game doesn't compete with future product.

>>714238471 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1cn0V1ZNndPU

>>714244741
>I'm not supporting Steam.
And have you changed something, anything at all? Did you even start an European petition?

You're aware only in Europe your opinion would be heard, right?

>>714244846
>Remilk

>>714244919
>you can download games from Steam website via any browser you want
you can't.
stop lying, Steamie
you need to install the DRM spyware, therefore there are ZERO DRM free games on Steam slop.

>>714244939
shit ai voice

pirate software is such a faggot, yjk he was so smug when coming up with that name for a channel

>>714244789
I WONT vote with my wallet
I WILL vote with my EU citizenship
You WILL provide an EOL plan
Cheers

>>714244946
yes, I don't get fucked over.
I don't care about retards like you.
I hope Valve fucks you in the ass even harder.

>>714244903
>can and should be used in combination
This is just telling devs that if they add extra DRM they should go through the wrapper, it isn't recommending any

>>714244991
>blatant strawman

I made a post in this thread that I regret making after getting btfo'd. I'm so embarrassed I don't even want to link it and give it more attention... Please forget you saw that bros...

230k signatures sounds feasible, but that means theres less gamers that havent signed already
can the goal be achieved?

this board would be improved so much if there was poster IDs and I could ignore these shitposters.

>>714245013
"this games servers will at least be up until 2026, have a nice day"
>yes, I will give money to Valve for this slop
>no, I'm not a retarded homeless freak

>>714244515
hmmmmmmm so big corpos that have all the PII data could pass any EU law

>>714245075
I haven't signed yet

>>714244991
he didn't say that

PIRATE SOFTWARE IS MOLD MAN PLANT
>PIRATE SOFTWARE IS MOLD MAN PLANT
PIRATE SOFTWARE IS MOLD MAN PLANT
>PIRATE SOFTWARE IS MOLD MAN PLANT
PIRATE SOFTWARE IS MOLD MAN PLANT
>PIRATE SOFTWARE IS MOLD MAN PLANT

ROSS MINDCONTROLLED HIM USING SHROOMS LONG AGO
FALSEFLAGS AND DRAMA WERE PLANNED LAST RESORT STRATEGY TO BOOST PETITION SIGNS
HE IS OUR PUPPET

>>714245075
Dude it's getting 70k signings a day.

>>714244903
It says right there, right before the quote you used.
>We suggest enhancing the value of legitimate copies of your game by using Steamworks features which won't work on non-legitimate copies (e.g. online multiplayer, achievements, leaderboards, trading cards, etc.).
WE SUGGEST using Steamworks. Period, end of line.

>See Using the Steam Wrapper with Other DRM for more information on combining the Steam DRM wrapper with other DRM or anti-tampering solutions.
This part is not being suggested by Steam. Just documentation about it in case anyone is interested.

>>714244846
I don't own RE4, or any Denuvo game for that matter.

>>714245062
>if they add
IT LITERALLY RECOMMENDS USING ADDITIONAL DRM, ESPECIALLY DENUVO.

Stop lying, you dishonest Steamie freak

>can and should be used in combination
>CAN AND SHOULD
>SHOULD BE USED
RECOMMENDED

You are lying
Google is lying
Commies are lying, as always.

>>714243450
There's always a lull when it's mentioned, weird.

>>714245079
Flags you can't choose will filter out a lot of it by itself, none of them would be smart enough to figure out a VPN

It's breached 770k.

>>714245059
>I hope Valve fucks you in the ass even harder.
Then why are you campaigning against Valve? I thought you wanted to protect me. If you want me to get fucked over, shouldn't you be pro-Steam then

>>714245075
it's only 7:30AM in europe and we already got 15k

>>714244991
What are you even trying to articulate here, do you even know what your position is? Your initial premise is that you can't play games on steam without being online - this was refuted. Your next rebuttal was DRM - this was refuted, it's optional, and is on a dev to dev basis.

>>714245068
>nooo, don't post truth about Steam
>that doesn't count
>I would have installed the spyware anyway

>>714245135
he said there would be DRM free games on Steam, THAT IS NOT TRUE. Every single game subscription REQUIRES you to install DRM spyware onto your PC.
THEREFORE THERE ARE NO DRM FREE GAMES.

There are DRM free games on itch.io and on GOG. Not on Steam.

Stop lying.

>>714244284
>the IP owner's ability to control access to their property
>their property
This is where the EU draws the line. Once you've sold a license for a product to a customer it is theirs. Because digital content is such a new thing and politicians are old retards it's being very slowly implemented, but digital content like movies, music and video games that let you make a one-time purchase to use it ad infinitum are generally being considered as legally closer to products.
There really is no real-world analogue for what SKG is trying to prevent. The closest thing really is a company coming into your home and physically destroying the product you purchased. But obviously that's not perfect because with digital content there is some degree of upkeep on the side of the seller. For many games this isn't an issue but some have online elements that companies just don't want to spend any money on maintaining nor are they willing to pay devs to make the game accessible after they take servers down.
Ultimately, SKG is trying to make it so the EU steps in and tells publishers that - as part of their development process - they need to have an end-of-life plan in place for any games which require it. Whether that means releasing server tools, making the content available offline or just not making live service games at all doesn't matter. What matters is that customers continue to have access to a functional version of the digital content they paid for.

>>714245150
What does this have to do with the initiative?

>>714245160
>I can't read English
ok console friend

>>714245154
>STEAM DRM RECOMMENDED
>ADDITIONAL DRM ALSO RECOMMENDED
>no, no, no they don't recommend that at all
t. ESL retard

>CAN AND SHOULD BE USED IN COMBINATION WITH DENUVO
cope

>>714245150
Piratesoftware wants his mushroom if you know what I mean.

>>714245237
Browser is also DRM by your definition.

>>714245160
By singling out the "can" and "should" you are misrepresenting what is being stated, "in combination" means they are only focused on how the drm should be implemented, not that it should be.

>>714245303
>>CAN AND SHOULD BE USED IN COMBINATION WITH DENUVO
who are you quoting, it doesn't say that

>>714245167
people being aware of him increases the risk of glowies actually noticing the illegal shit he's got going on

>>714245212
because I want Valve to die and Steamies to expose their mental retardation, because it's funny to laugh about Steamies.
>oh wow see I can refund a game within 2 hours
>within 2 hours
>within
*LMAO*

based

>>714245364
>>714243045

>>714245357
So you like that we buy games on Steam then? You want us to keep supporting Steam?

>>714245228
>optional
>can't download "drm free game via browser"
>optional
>just install the DRM spyware
fuck off, retard
adults are talking here

>>714245318
no, it's not, dumb fuck.

>>714240325
and thats retarded .
1.nobody is gonna develop,test and bother with a server emulator to keep people playing offline
when business goes belly up
2.nobody is gonna drop thousands up millions upon millions lines of code so people can steal their in house code
3.even if point 2 and point 1 can be magical made real nobody is gonna maintain the emulator anyway
in short the whole thing is retarded and as usual you guys are tech illiterate and want what isnt feasible like 5 years old that want a candy but cant have it.its funny to me that you think that complaining enough will create a perfect world,an utopia that is real only in your heads

>>714245357
It's within 2 hours for no reason. You can get refund for good reasons after 2 hours.
Can you refund Mario Kart World after the random straight line update?

>>714245364
Yesterday was july 1st
yesterday was the finland vote flex too, coincidence?

>>714245339
it says that Steam DRM should not only be used, BUT IN COMBINATION WITH ADDITIONAL DRM LIKE DENUVO

Stop lying about your online DRM hell called Steam

>>714243045
TOTAL CORPO FINNDOM INCOMING

>>714245427
I accept your concession

Bros... I couldn't resist the urge to post in this thread again and got btfo'd AGAIN... How will I ever recover from this..?

stop feeding the retard strawmanning about steam

>>714245415
>buy games
>Steam
choose one

haha, another mentally retarded Steamie
look at this fool
>buy games on Steam
hahahahaaa

>>714243045
What the actual fuck?
Are we witnessing history?

>>714245452
does he know?

>>714245462
I can refund/sell even 15 year old Wii games, cope.
>good reason
>Master Valve decides on that
simp

>>714245545
Be honest, should I and all of my friends keep supporting Steam or not?

>>714245540
Steam is part of the problem.

>>714245452
>nobody is gonna develop,test and bother with a server emulator to keep people playing offline
Not being asked for
>nobody is gonna drop thousands up millions upon millions lines of code so people can steal their in house code
How are private servers done now?
>nobody is gonna maintain the emulator anyway
Not being asked for either

>>714245237
>THEREFORE THERE ARE NO DRM FREE GAMES.
>Buy Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
>Copy the content onto flash drive
>paste contents onto your laptop
>play without steam authentication
woah

>>714245586
>my commie EU will fund the bankrupt business for sure!!!
>yay, communism

>>714245596
you got no friends, commie tranny

>>714243045
>Binland hit 300% without using its full strength
>It's actually feasible for them to hit 400% with this

>>714244614
nothing wrong with being gay, commie

>>714243045
>give teenagers rights to vote
This is unironically bad for them though.

>>714245576
more comments like this please
you're going to make my cringe quota

retards, stop feeding the spammers

>>714245609
>How are private servers done now?
by reverse engineering the game, not by forcing companies to give you their source code including 3rd party source code, fucking commie

>>714245452
>Im fucking retarded
The post.

>>714245237
i can play battle brothers without steam after buying it from steam.

>>714244919
>the fucking dvd/vhs/tv trolley
lmao

>>714245647
>doesn't want the EU, the only organization in the entire planet capable of striking Steam, to exist
>doesn't want gamers to stop supporting steam
With each post you sound more and more like a Steam marketeer.

>>714245592
Post receipt nintendo anon

>>714245646
>>Copy the content
how did you get "the content"?
Like on GOG with any web browser.
Or did you install the DRM spyware Steam client and thus have to endure online DRM slop?

Be honest and stop lying, avatarfagging freak.

>>714245647
does he know?

>>714245649
every eligible Finn will have signed it by July 31

>>714245646
Can you download it without the Steam client?
>no
Wow that really activated my almonds!

>>714245691
So if consumers figured it out, why can't devs make it possible without them needing to reverse engineer it?

Try and find another friend or colleague to sign today. We're not done at 1M

>>714245718
>after buying
>Steam
choose one
how did you download it?
via web browser like any software, or via the Steam spyware DRM client?
>well uhhhh

be honest and STOP LYING, freak.

>>714241697
Loadout
PvP shooter that had really fun weapon customization

>>714245592
I guess that's a no for Mario

>>714245013
you're fucking embarrassing
leave you pathetic child

How have we gotten 16k overnight? This is suspicious. I hope these aren't fake votes that'll get thrown away.

Alright, what is going to be the final finngod per capita?

>>714245525
this is not video games. please get back on topic. we're discussing important things like how to save this stupid hobby.

>>714245747
What's your browser?

>>714245731
>customers have no control over Steam
Stop giving Valve money, and Steam goes away.
Simple as that.
>no, no, I need my commie government to do something like banning online DRM, which they haven't or making sure Valve doesn't create millions of e-waste PCs, which they also haven't
>but they forced the caps of bottles to be fixed, that's good for the environment
mindless drone

>Called PIRATEsoftware
>has the most corporate boot licking stance possible on the entire internet

can someone fucking explain this to me

>>714245849
100%

>>714245851
blame leto's cabal of pedos and spammers

>>714245483
Steam allows for all kinds of shitty third party DRM. Fuck Steam, GOG for life!

>How are private servers done now?
>what is reverse engineering?
>what is filling the server formulas with random code and values based on observation until feels "right"?
stupid tech illiterate motherfucker i was about to ask what you guys are asking but now i dont need to because you are fucking retarded

>>714245692
i accept your concession

>>714245883
you've never seen an ironic username before?

>>714245796
>I deserve the source code
you don't

>>714245883
He named himself that so that people trying to pirate software get funneled to his channel.

>>714245837
The Youtube boomers (Pewdiepie nd Jacksepticeye) took a stance on SKG.

>>714245883
>privateer software

>>714245869
not Google slop
not Firefox slop
not spyware
cope

>>714245923
We already have it

>>714244393
Yee haw little American. I signed for you just now. This is your written and formal proof of support you can show to your friends

>>714245667
>tfw your on the same timeline as gays who want to save video games

>>714245989
no, you don't
>I will just create a server farm to host Fortnite NA East myself
you don't

>>714245883
He wants his name, company and games to show up when you google "pirate software", and once "the pirates" realize his games are always online then they would be forced to buy his slop.

That's what he was thinking.

>>714245876
I stopped giving nintendo money but they start milking retards with $80 paid online games.
>retards deserve it
ok but it's not going away

>>714245876
But you said I deserved Steam.

I'm glad everyone is uniting for this. No culture war brain rot, no ragebaits. I'm proud of you /v/

>>714246036
If you paid money for it then you do

>>714245976
What is it? Post download page with itch.

Now that the thread is done, why wasn't this one deleted when a billion other ones were before this?

>>714245883
All about SEO and looking good

>>714246056
mario kart is playable offline, cope you dishonest steamie

>>714246118
>usa central time 0:44

>>714241473
>so unlikable it causes a million people from several different countries to join together and pass real-world legislation
holy fuck this is hilarious

>>714246118
its because of the power of friendship. we defeated the gore spammers, the cp spammers, and the avatarfaggotry, as well as corporate interests.

>>714238471 (OP)
https://voca.ro/1oeb1NGMtboZ

>>714239725
It seems 4230 signings is the minimum threshold for any country. In terms of population Cyprus>Luxembourg>Malta.

Don't forget 1m is not the end, there is probably anywhere between 5 and 10% fake signatures I would imagine, if not more.
Should probably aim for 1.2m or more to be safe.

>>714246109
nope
>I will just get business IPs with 100000 Gigabit upload
you don't

>>714246037
Who would search "pirate software" rather than "pirate Photoshop" or "pirate FL Studio" or whatever?

Less than 17k signatures today, it's already dying.

>>714246037
genuinely retarded

We need a tiktok campaign to reach the normalfags.

>>714246163
>mistaking paid networking as online only
>implying MKW will be the only one at $80
>didn't refute
reading comprehension?

>>714246102
except for leto's cabal

>>714246281
well? ur gonna do that right?

>>714246220
wat

>>714239664
>Meds being lazy subhumans
Total mediterranean death

Im going to miss these threads so much bros. Literally pic related.
Except for letofags. Go fuck youruselves and never return

>>714246315
Qrd?

>>714246284
>paid networking
offline, no internet required
cope steamie
>but my internet access is free
doubt.jpg

>>714246118
if you see threads where the op pic has a bunch of multicolored squares around it, that's a banevader trying to get around jannies

>>714246354
>meds arent tech illiterate and retarded
another victory for us

>>714246346
you need that to host Fortnite NA East, retard.

>>714246281
If you start it I'll give it a like with my cooking account

>Nintendo fanboys is trying to sabotage SKG on /v/
I an not even surprised

go to twitter and post #stopkillinggames in 10 minutes

>>714246360
look up unrealskybox on KF for more detailed info, but tldr: gay furry pedo that's directly responsible for most of why the site is so shit for the past few years through supplying free proxies to the site's worst posters and helping to create the pron embed plague from a while back

>>714246365
>$80 for an incomplete game
cope

>>714246328
I don't even have an account

>>714246436
>Nintendo
Suddenly it's making a lot of sense, their precious little company is going to be most affected by this.

1 MIL ON JULY 4TH
TRUST THE PLAN

>>714246420
Consumers can pay for servers themselves, they don't need Epic's

>>714246456
>hashtag commie
>hashtag EU-will-save-us
>hashtag I-buy-slop-all-the-time
>hashtag Steam-DRM-is-great

>>714246492
>incomplete
Steamie assumes that his situation with broken crap games would apply to everyone else

it's fully playable off the physical cart.
I know you never experienced that, Steamie.

>>714246510
>just buy such an internet access line
>it's dirt cheap
lmao
>we don't need Epic
they got the servers, stupid commie

>but but Epic needs to give me their whole server farm
t. commie

>>714246571
>what are game key cards

>>714243735
Would've been still playing its retro form if it weren't for that crafting obsessed furfag.

>>714246662
>Did I say Mario Kart?
>I meant gay key cards
Choose one, crying dishonest Steamie

>>714246610
>it's dirt cheap
Who said that, if people really want it they'll be fine paying for it, why do you think they're paying for fortnite in the first place.
>they got the servers, stupid commie
And then they shut them down
>but but Epic needs to give me their whole server farm
But but they don't

>>714245672
I don't think the ECI regularly gets initiatives teenagers would care about, and in the end it's just more work for the government if they vote on something stupid that they'll throw out.

>>714245345
i have a hard time believing they don't, especially with the partial dox.

>>714246662
Steam:
>can't sell game

gay key cards
>can sell game

Imagine the horrible ass gay key cards being better than Steam slop.

it's like dog shit better than Steam hahaha
And Steamies defend the big Valve turd.

>>714239664
I'm ordering a pizza RIGHT NOW

>>714246767
>HA, we will just fund it ourselves
>HA, we will sell cosmetics to fund it after Fortnite was shut down because of lack of income
Commies are retarded, as always

>>714246571
>can't play pvp game with friends living 2 blocks down without paying for wifi again
>game is good
nintendo brainwash is too good

>>714246715
He didn't say Mario Kart

>>714246845
>we will sell cosmetics to fund it
That's a completely separate bag of weeds that would have to be looked at if it actually did happen. Selling mods hasn't been a problem for corpos before though.

>>714246935
actually you can LMAO
Shitch supports local multiplayer with no internet-slop
Unthinkable for a Steamie

>>714246994
he did

>>714246785
>bought keycart
>not working without nintendo DRM
extra steps for digital is good when nintendo does it