Thread 714257103

soul vs soulless thread

>>714257186
Main menus are a lost art

>>714257186
Wait was his ponytail meant to be feathers this whole time

>>714257519
Much better. Does it come in girl (female)?

>>714257103 (OP)
Your words are as empty as your soul

>>714257103 (OP)
most of the changes are pretty good. but the half tone and swirly clouds should have stayed.

>>714258045
Paldea's Pokémon Centers make sense in the context of that game, but it all still suffers from the vast majority of the region being outdoors with nothing indoors to do.
Not even the gyms are indoors.

Nintendo loves turning the saturation down.
Other companies love the piss filter.

>>714258858
Why do they hate colors so much?

>>714258858
>Crash
>Nintendo
am I missing anything or are you specifically referring to Switch ports?

>>714257626
I think right would be... fine if the monster was twice as big

>>714257186
dudes expression on the right says it all

>>714257103 (OP)
Bottom image looks more like paper than top image. Bottom is better.

>>714259018
>am I missing anything or are you specifically referring to Switch ports?
I said Nintendo loves turning the saturation down, other companies love the piss filter.

Crash has the piss filter.

>>714259542
kind of agree. could use more vibrance in the colors though

>>714258615
Spyro is such an unfortunate example. The remaster has amazing details and, for the most part, looks like the original was meant to.
But the color palette is just fucking awful and completely disconnected from what the original was supposed to look like.

Why are nostalgiafags so pathetic and delusional? Is it arrested development?

>choco mountain
>chocolate coloured mountain
>chocolate boulders

>2025
>choco mountain
>light mud

>>714257431
Aye...
https://youtu.be/w5u8jyPIrIY?si=bJ_bfqtblPCuBsmE

>>714259617
to be fair, it looks like mud in both cases

>>714257519
She (male) became human. After 2 sessions of cock & ball torture?

>>714259620
bro just kys, the aoe remakes/remasters are pure soul upgrades

>>714259689
perfect. WAS THAT SO HARD NINTENDO??

>>714259542
I dislike Nintendo's insistence on making everything in Paper Mario made out of paper, as hypocritical as that may sound.
To me, the "paper" theme was meant to be more reflective of its storybook quality rather than any kind of craftworld theme, as well as an explanation for the original's sprites on top of 3d environments graphic style that made it easier to render.

>>714259938
Color grading is a lost art

>>714258615
That sky looks fucking awful in the remake.

>>714258308
Ff7 rebirth is honestly full of soul. The score is good, characters are lovable. Japanese quirky humor is still here. The only bad part about it is the ubisoft-y open world. Had they just shortened the open world sections to a minimum, game would be a 10/10 (although not sure where they would fit the battles)

>>714259542
Even if I agreed (I don't), the context of the TTYD remake is what makes the change insulting. They wasted even more dev time to produce a product that very few actually wanted. We don't need remakes for good games. A better world would have seen a cheap, digital port of the original and a proper sequel developed for Switch.

>>714262462
Possible winner of the thread here

>>714257103 (OP)
But both ttyd games are soulless

>>714258615
I think bottom looks better

>>714263578
Right
Left
Left
Left
Right

>>714258308
based

>>714257186
>>714257519
>>714258045
>>714258090
>>714262462
Agreed

>>714262764
Mario has always been pretty arbitrary from an aesthetic point, but 3D World really was bad about it. It might as well not have had a world map because the world themes didn't fucking matter at all.

I think Wonder did a good job with world themes that felt somewhat fresh while still distinctively Mario and actually tying into the world themes at least.

>>714258615
could use some better lighting to highlight some areas I guess but it's not too bad

>>714264552
the fuck did they do to Diddy's eyes? and his cap no longer has the nintendo logo or it's just smaller and it's hidden?

>>714259587
Nah, the remake is too detailed and ends up looking a generic Illumination cartoon. Granted Spyro 2 and 3 probably go well with that aesthetic, but the original Spyro was very dream-like and serene. The simpler visuals work a lot better in that context.

>>714264683
Not even the same Jonker

>>714257103 (OP)
Oh do I got something for this thread WOAH

>>714264552
Rare's DK was too masculine-coded. They needed to soften him up for Nintendo's new audience of women and fags.

>>714264712
The butt looks nicer in the remake

>>714264348
this

>>714262764
>Isolated obstacle course in a vacuum
To be fair that's literally the trope for challenge stages in 3d Mario since Sunshine, even the odyssey ones were like that despite using some theme from the stages

>>714258615
Lazy faggots in spyros world stopped cutting the grass

>>714264712
Yuffie is the singular upgrade to anything in FF7R, I don't know how this happened but I'm grateful for it after what happened to Tifa and Aerith.

>>714264712
holy soulless

>>714264619
>>714264683
the "ugly" and "rough" aesthetic is a dying art. new generation mostly hate ugly/old looking things. pretty soon every game is just going to be bland generic supermodels like most if not all korean games whether you like it or not

>>714265030
Is this nigga actually getting nostalgic for Nicokado Aloy and Man-Jaw Mary Jane?.

>>714257103 (OP)
bottom does the paper artstyle better

>>714259575
What if I turn up the saturation on my tv or monitor instead?

>>714257103 (OP)
normally i think this comparisons are kind of forced but thi genuinely looks worse

>>714257103 (OP)
Honestly, who are remakes like this even made for?
>literal children
>secondaries who missed out
>autistic fanboys who are addicted to consumption
That's all I can think of, and in my mind, these audiences would arguably be served just as well by a more simplistic port. The remake strategy seems strongly weighted towards corporate interests, rather than vidya enthusiast interests. That rings especially true for Nintendo's remakes that rarely sell for reasonable prices. For reference, whether you love or hate the concept of remakes, it's hard to bitch about someone paying $4 for something like the Crash Trilogy Remake (current sale price).

>>714264881
funny how the logo matches up with the quality of the game eh?

>>714264905
That's Beep Block Skyway though (4-3)

>>714258090
both are soulful, in different ways

>>714265230
You can't sell a normie a game that doesn't have NEW GRAPHICS because that's all they care about when they buy a game that they don't even know is a remake

>>714264712
honestly the top looks just fine. but absolutely nothing compares to 90s computer graphics

>>714265230
There's a ton of faggots that refuse to play old games until they get a worse looking worse performing version of them

>>714265404
Jesus, is this a remake of a mobile game spinoff?

>>714258858
>Nintendo loves turning the saturation down

>>714265432
I'm not even sure what was the point in redrawing this

>>714262462
>nigger turns into an aggressive demon pig
Nintendo used to be… based?

>>714265432
>Left
Chink-Coded
>Right
White-Coded

>>714259689
>>714260756
>>714257103 (OP)
>Fast and snappy menus are also a lost art

>>714265353
>>714265442
It's just crazy to me that people don't connect the dots and realize they are paying more for less.
>pay full retail for old game
>company makes more remakes
>fewer resources go towards new games
Not only are you paying more for what is usually a subjective upgrade, but you're encouraging vidya companies to produce fewer new games.

>>714264876
What is the problem with that anon?

>>714265646
I noticed this with one of the Pokemon games and stopped playing.

>>714265671
>you're encouraging vidya companies to produce fewer new games.
That's already happening because new IPs are too risky. Barely any game devs seem capable of making a new, resonating IP anymore so the choice is between constantly worse sequels until the IP becomes unprofitable, or remakes.

So basically SOVL means a lower resolution quality so your brain fill the gaps, and a more chibi/anime/cartoon style, coupled with more hand crafted detail on the textures, plus a more baroque GUI and menues?

because that's what I get from this thread.

>>714265865
Better use of color and more purposeful art design in general. Remakes usually are made by shovelware companies who are incapable of any level of artistry

>>714265905
>Cortex's tower still in the background
>big spooky rock spikes
>danger sign being very similar
I don't get what's the problem, is the mist? is because it's missing the mist?

>>714265646
this is the most frustrating part. in this day and age menus should be snappy. but it seems like theyre just doubling down on animation effects. hogwarts legacy takes way too long to open the map for instance. i dont know how you can be a dev and think thats a good thing

>>714257186
What happened to artists?

>>714265796
True, but that's a separate issue. Using Nintendo as a reference, they have been putting less and less effort into most of their existing IPs. I mean, why bother? It's much easier to pad your library with overpriced ports, unfinished games, and expensive DLC. The new sequels aren't just redundant. In many cases, they're flat out downgrades.

>too risky
That may apply here, as well. Companies have become increasingly risk adverse to the detriment of their product.

>>714265865
Soul is when the devs put in that little extra push. When games all look play the fucking same, with the same art style and lighting and interface and control scheme, it doesn't feel like a product made out of passion but obligation.

A unique interface that looks good, flows well *and* doesn't just look like black semi-transparent boxes with a generic white serious font? Sign me up. A cartoony game that doesn't look like Fortnite? Sign me up. Gameplay that experiments and tries new things instead of the same shit everyone else is peddling, even if the end result isn't as polished as Yet Another Third Person Cinematic Game Made By A Director Who Wishes He Worked In Hollywood or Another Goddamn Ubisoft-Tier Open World Where We Really Hope Repeating The Same Mission 50 Times Makes You Feel Like The Game Was Worth 70 Bucks? Yes please.

>>714265865
It means made by people who care, that have a vision and are passionate about executing it

Now that I think about it, young people aren't even aware that making every piece of media as bland as possible for maximum global appeal is a relatively recent phenomenon, sure media has been selling around the world ever since globalization was completed, but there was no real way to know what global markets wanted or thought about what you were making until mass internet adoption and smartphones gave everyone a voice

Now kids born with smartphones in their hands think it's completely normal to cripple your artistic vision for maximum appeal and accessibility, if they have a vision in the first place

>>714265275
>EVERYTHING KOJIMA DID, DOES OR WILL EVER DO IS GOOD
>EVERYTHING KOJIMA DID, DOES OR WILL EVER DO IS GOOD
>EVERYTHING KOJIMA DID, DOES OR WILL EVER DO IS GOOD

>>714266191
Original has souless colors while remake has soulful colors

>Smash 4 Pirate Ship Omega Form with Ultimate Pirate Ship Omega Form

The Pirate Ship Omega got gutted harder than any DLC character when transitioning to Ultimate from Smash 4.

Is this why people use the Skull Emoji a lot? is because they miss Smash 4 Pirate Ship Omega?

here's SOUL

>>714262329
kek underrated

>>714266191
I think what you complain in that witcher screenshot, is just the modern trend of flat internet GUI design.

For some reason all designers are now taught that being flat and simple like they are designing for webdev interfaces.

Seems a trend similar to the memphis globohomo school of design.

I like minimalism and I read some of those books, and I understand the appeal, but at the same time I think it gets generic when is what is expected of everything.

>>714264521
>>714264552
>>714264581

>>714265865
>it's just your imagination goyim

>>714266504
She became blonde...

>>714266425
>for some reason
It's just to save cost. Designing skeuomorphic interfaces takes 10x more time, especially if you want to make them accessible.

>>714266504
>Forced to talk to Giratina instead of cute hebe
soul suckingly soulless

>>714266269
I posted that image specifically to counter the
>more chibi/anime/cartoon style
claim from the post I was replying to, the "more chibi/anime/cartoon style" soulful examples in this thread aren't good because they're "more chibi/anime/cartoon style", that just happens to be how they were envisioned, in contrast The Witcher was envisioned as a grim and grounded eastern European fantasy so the sequels making it more cartoony was the soulless downgrade

>>714266425
It's more than just the UI, see above

>I think what you complain in that witcher screenshot, is just the modern trend of flat internet GUI design.
>For some reason all designers are now taught that being flat and simple like they are designing for webdev interfaces.
The reason is what I said was the reason, maximum global appeal and ease of use, started by Apple making billions on dumbing down technology to Fisher-Price levels and successfully selling iPhones worldwide, now everyone is dumbing down all their output hoping to sell everything worldwide and not offend anyone, whereas in the soulful media era most creators were only working with their immediate environment and feedback in mind, and just distributing their stuff worldwide hoping it sells, not really having a way to know what people thought about their stuff elsewhere unlike today

>Seems a trend similar to the memphis globohomo school of design.
It's literally in the name "globo"homo

>>714266651
Not really, at best it can take a week to make if you want it to be full handpainted.

I think the real reason is that the artists that can make the skeumorphic interfaces are more expensive.

There's not real cost now to produce expensive interfaces now that AI exist.

>>714266008
I thoguht the mist was an edit so checked myself and yes that's probably why anon is pointing it out.
That and there are little details like the bridge posts being different and the spikes not being that threatening. Or maybe that it looks like some unity engine game.

I remember Crash 2 having a lot of comparisons like level intros no longer being Crash warping in but instead dropped in because apparently shaders are a lost art.

>>714265865
Of course, and that's why you've won at life and are posting on 4chan.
For a more serious response which you don't actually want:
>lighting, often baked into textures
>colour
>having a world
>look good
as opposed to
>default engine lighting
>desaturation, "colour theory" and browns/greys/blacks
>a blank, empty void with the protagonist stood next to minimalist/metro/placeholder UI elements
>looking shit
And there are many other things that can be noticed by simply using your eyes.

>>714264881
Might as well post the Resident Evil logos too

>>714266760
what's funny is that is more accurate to design using ornaments, like literally copy pasting patterns from a book like grammar of ornaments than to design a flat minimalist piece.

All cultures loved ornament, and is only a 20-30 year trend on the west to get rid of ornaments.

If you see all non modern media, and specifically all media from non western cultures, even today, they tend to have lots of ornaments.

It's even innacurate to make a "global" style being minimalism when a real historical global style should be ornamented.

>>714264621
This. The spyro remake is definitely nowhere near as nice looking as the originals, but it's not bad at all and is probably one of the better remakes ever made.

>>714265230
Not all remakes are bad anon

>>714258617
Once again, changing something as simple as the lighting in this scene completely ruined the entire creepy atmosphere the original created.

It's embarrassing that the remake never understood this. But then again, they weren't trying to were they? It was a guaranteed profit no matter how unfaithful it was.

>>714265010
You can blame giraffe blowjob on that one

>>714266823
>>default engine lighting
>>desaturation, "colour theory" and browns/greys/blacks
>>a blank, empty void with the protagonist stood next to minimalist/metro/placeholder UI elements
>>looking shit
Negro, this is not a globohomo shit.

This is literally not knowing how painting theory works.

Mudded brown and mudded blacks, no saturation, default lighting, are 2D painting issues.

Literally any art book of color theory and light will teach they're painting issues.

>>714267093
I like Diablo 2 Resurrected, it was a fun remake... specially because you could press a single button and turn the new graphics into the old classic ones and just play the original D2

>>714267027
6 still looks like a guy giving head to a giraffe

>>714267027
it's like the logos got all same-y around 2019 unless it's a brand new mainline title, like REVIII or Requiem
>>714267093
>Majora's Mask 3D
>TTYD Remake
whoever made this should play more non-nintendo games, SURELY there's some definitive remakes there.

>>714267027
Resident Evil 0's logo is my favorite. Just brutal.

>>714266425
Corporate likes it because it's cheaper and devs like it because it lets them hide and not put themselves out there to be criticized. Someone might say they don't like minimalism but the dev is protected because it's a trend and not something they created. You'd think those type of people shouldn't be in a creative field but they are all over the modern industry.

Pic related is a game based in feudal Japan but you would never know from the sterile modern ui.

so basically this picture is SOVL?

>>714259905
yeah they're rare examples of good remakes

>>714257103 (OP)
Is there a legitimately soulful game that's been released in the past decade?

>>714259617
the ground looks worse on the right but the mountain looks more chocolate-esque

>>714267743
Yes. But most people don't know what soul is so they just default to calling everything soulless.

>>714259617
>>714267814
It didn't look like chocolate in Super Mario World.
It didn't look like chocolate in Super Mario Kart.
It didn't look like chocolate in Mario Kart 64.
It didn't look like chocolate in Mario Kart DS.
It didn't look like chocolate in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
It didn't look like chocolate in Mario Kart World.

>>714267093
While true for most of the games in this pic, there's
>OoT3D, only real advantage is taking less time to take your shoes on and off for the water temple, worse in all other aspects
>MM3D, butchered art direction with little to speak of in advantages
>TTYD goes either way, remake is more true to the paper aesthetic and has the Prince Mush fight they cockteased you with in the original but never happened, but it's 30FPS and has worse color gradation and menuing
>WWHD does have the way less laborious triforce fetch quest but it goes too hard on the bloom and the new lightning doesn't mesh well with the models

>>714267180
>negro
>globohomo
>painting theory
>painting issues
Why are catposters like this?
Soul is real and you refuse to accept it by saying "Oh the artist is just bad now" as if that's not what every anon in this thread just told you that's what they mean by soulless.

>>714267093
lots of horrible outsourced demakes there

>>714264712
thanks doc but this seems more than usual

>>714268054
my argument wasn't that soul isn't real.
but is more a symtomp of lack of skills rather that soul not existing.

>>714267027
>Code: Veronica
>you actually enter Veronica as a code in the game

>>714268204
If you agree then why are you arguing?

>>714267743
BG3

>>714266491
JIMMY NO
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU

>>714267761
>top: wrist in strained forward for no reason
>bottom: wrist in a relaxed position

games are made by people with no experience

>>714262718
Not at all, because the bottom looks nowhere near that bright on actual hardware.

>>714268323
I'm just having a conversation, negro.

>>714265373
looks like a cheap mobile game

>>714265010
desu the pal/jp logo always used the same font, dont know why the american boxarts changed them up

>>714268915
I like how you read the game I mentioned and decided to ignore the rest of the comment

>>714269210
>dont know why the american boxarts changed them up
soul

>>714257103 (OP)
They both look soulless to me, the bottom one less so

>>714262462
It's a shame that the final boss had such shit lighting, OOT3D is superior in almost every other area

I miss Mithra so much.

>>714258045
Fuck it hurts

>>714264581
>Still seething about green eyes

>>714267998
OoT3D has a bossrush and 2nd quest, so it can arguably stand alongside the OG even with the fucked lighting. MM3D is total dogshit, I haven't even looked at it since I beat it.

>>714265373
>when they kill your franchise but you’re paid too well to turn down the cameo
Looks like Mark Hamill promoting the Star Wars Sequels.

>>714258615
Bottom looks better

>>714262462
It's a fucking slideshow in the original, it doesn't matter how SOULful it is, it's unplayable

>>714270268
And then they stole her design and used it with the new Harley Queen and basically became much more popular

>>714258938
Colours and saturation is childish

>>714269070
the second one is more spooky cause its uncanny as fuck
Like actual nightmare fuel

>>714265865
No, it's not just a "fill the gaps" thing. It's about putting care in the end product.

>>714265373
>>714265404
I unironically like reboot camp.
My only complaints are:
>max’s design and voice actor
>really bad audio bugs from time to time when using speedup
>remixes of the super co power theme sucks, generally not a problem cause the new co power themes are great and the super co power themes only play on factory stages
>the plastic toy looking models
Everything else looks great, I especially like the new character designa, with the exception of Max.
Sturms redesign in particular is phenomenal

>>714270431
you don't need more than 15 fps

>>714266425
Easier to design
All the others games do it too
Adaptable for all stupid screen resolution

It's so boring. I hate it. Every website uses that and it's so fucking boring. Zero creativity.

>>714265865
Usually means better coloring and lighting and even sometimes more and better detail.

>>714257103 (OP)
>Make highly stylized game with an art style that holds up just fine
>Remake it anyway
What's the point?

>>714267434
what game is this?

>>714257958
TTYD switch is full of jeetsoul that would make even microsoft blush

>>714271820
And up until recently with metroid prime, the games that do show their age and could use a proper remake have the absolute bare minimum put into them like Twilight Princess

Look how they massacred my wife.

>>714267743
Kid Icarus Uprising although it’s a 2012 game

>>714272313
your wife looks exactly the same

>>714259575
>lets start adding filters to make our games dull looking and foggy that will sell for sure!
why are game devs like this?

>>714271862
https://ca3gamedev.itch.io/kaliina-final-version

>>714272313
>soul
>nusoul
>fakesoul
>soulslop

>>714266548
all great

>>714265030
You're kind of mistaken. Men can't look manly (i.e. older and rugged), but women sure can.

>>714271112
right looks pained to be alive

>>714265865
artistically designed textures vs procedurally generated pbr materials

>>714258045
>poke gas station
it looks like total shit as well
holy fuck GF is so fucking incompetent

>>714265709
Gas yourself. Nigger loving kike

>>714265865
Nigger

>>714267743
outer wilds

>>714266298
Horrible

>>714265709
That boy has a dumb haircut and his parents allow it

>>714269935
No

>>714262462
I don't remember top being THAT dark, you can't see shit

>>714267093
Absolutely loved Super Star Ultra.

>>714266425
Easier to make them with vector graphics so they can scale. You can make more impressive stuff with vector graphics but you'd have to put effort in, which they don't want to

>>714269549
>muh green eyes
>Sonic is a head taller, has larger eyes, hands, feet, a smaller torso, grey soles on his shoes, and longer quills
fuck you disingenuous faggots who keep parroting this meme, I don't even mind Modern Sonic but he's clearly intentionally designed differently than Classic Sonic
>it's not a big deal autist
if it's not a big deal then why did they change his design?

>>714258617
One weird thing is how sexual she is appearing in the new scene. The first scene darkens so much with the only light aspect being her face so you focus on it but it looks creepy because you can't see her eyes. Her body is darkened and positioned in a weird way that it feels off looking at her and what she's wearing seems very unappealing.

The new scene by comparison almost gives femdom vibes by being able to perfectly see her face and her false smile along with how her body is positioned in a way (along with the leaning) that makes her bust very apparent along with the jacket and shirt showing the top of her breasts slightly. Even her hands are in a more sensual way as opposed to the original that feels more natural like her hands would naturally rest there as opposed to the newer one which feels somewhat forced.

Could be intentional or perhaps I'm just horny but either way, original better.

>>714258045
3D pokémon is one of the most soulless thing I've ever seen.
It looks like an amateur mod of an indie japanese game.

>>714265169
It'll look bad, because you don't want to just blank increase saturation. You'll end up with piss yellow roads and the like.

>>714265516
but why

Why can't the sky be blue and grass be green

>>714278596
>CLOUD Spires
>in the CLOUDS
>"what if we turned the clouds into jagged rocks instead tho"
Soul massacre

>>714265709
Hey doctor goldsteinschmittbergmanovitz.

>>714278596
I would give my left nut for the OG Spyro trilogy on Steam.

>>714271959
>wavy sun in front of mountains

What the FUCK

>>714265709
Kill yourself. This will never be your site
>>714265516
Anti soul gas is a crime

>>714257519
Why would you want cock and ball torture a second time anyway?

>>714267743
Hi Fi Rush

>>714278596
Um, sweaty, these "Cloud Spires" you speak of were always supposed to be a floating concrete prison. You didn't understand what you were looking at back then, mmkay?

>>714257103 (OP)
They made the dialogue soulless too

>>714262462
Post MM 3D bosses, what the fuck where they thinking.

>>714277102
>if it's not a big deal then why did they change his design?
so he could look more adult. a good move, honestly.

>>714266035
The usual problem.

>>714278658
This just looks like a bad YouTube clip
Use actual game footage

>>714280193
>the strong, silent type
why did they turn Bowser into Tony Soprano

>>714257519
>cock and balls torture can fix furries
it really makes you think

>>714258090
It's not just souless, the art is worse.
People just thought it looked good because OOH MORE POLYGONS.

>>714280641
It's true. Life drawing isn't taught at colleges anymore.
I had to go to a completely unrelated place for it.

>>714266548
I like middle the most but right its ok.

>>714259575
What am I even looking at on the left?
Because that isn't Super Mario Kart played on SNES. The pixel count is impossible.

>>714259542
That's the issue. Paper Mario wasn't supposed to have everything made of paper, it was supposed to be a pop-up story book. The "make everything look like an arts and crafts project" BULLSHIT started with Sticker Star, and everyone hates Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami King.

We want REAL Paper Mario back.

>>714262462
I do agree with this one. The fact that you can barely make Ganon out in the original just makes the fight more intense.

>>714267743
Cuphead?

>>714267743
Yeah, DKC Tropical Free-
>Released 11 years ago
FUCK

At least there's:
Subnautica
Hollow Knight
Octopath Traveler 1
Octopath Traveler 2
Rabi Ribi
Hi-Fi Rush
Splatoon 3

>>714258090
There are people that unironically recommend twin snakes over the original. They may even be among us now.

>>714278509
>>714258615
I genuinely think the remake looks better in almost every comparison I've been shown. This is the one exception

>>714282483
same

>>714282196
>Octopath Traveler 1
>Octopath Traveler 2
My brother.

>>714265516
World looks fantastic in motion, though. It's gorgeous when you actually play it. The fog in the distance really helps draw your eyes towards the important things in the immediate.

The soullessness from World comes from the dogshit Intermissions that you're forced to play on that all universally suck ass. I wish Nintendo would just let us play the tracks since those are actually good (except for Koopa Beach).

>>714262764
Super Mario 3D World organizes the worlds by difficulty rather than themes. That's why every world has a ton of variety in level themes. It also makes the game feel incredibly chaotic since you go from level theme to level theme without any connections.

>>714264308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbAp6pd3dfI

>>714264792
she's 13

>>714271112
thank you. i've been looking for this pic forever.

>>714266679
I would rather talk to Giratina than a woman no matter how cute that woman is.

>>714271959
no artistic vision

>>714283495
she's not real, and her game released in 1997, so she has been existing for 28 years

>>714267093
>MM3D
I'll give you the rest - hell, even OOT and WW because though they fuck up the art style a bit they're at least better to play - but MM3D is a disaster.

>>714267093
Super Star Ultra is the greatest remake in the history of mankind. It's the only remake that improved on the original in every single way with literally 0 downsides. The ONLY thing I could think of is that multiplayer is a tad more difficult since you need a 2nd DS instead of just a 2nd controller.

>>714283808
yes that's been posted already >>714264552

>>714282663
Octopath is divisive, but I fall on the SOUL side of the argument.

>>714272313
TitS Remake looks the best.

Falcom's only good series is Ys. Trails sucks.

>>714283958
World's looks so much better unironically. 8's Moo Moo Meadows still looks the best thoughever

SOUL

>>714284482
SOULLESS

>>714262462
In some cases you have to consider the difference in playability on a tv vs a handheld. Handhelds tend to have low quality screens and need to be playable in varied lighting conditions, to visual quality tends to take a hit as a result.
I also see a lot here where a game intended for a crt is being compared against one intended for an lcd.

>>714266035
artist back then
>probably made game in his room as hobby with his friends or had same basics and apprenticed to some great OGs to hone his skill
>goes outside,travel and has an actual hobby(not just vidya) to take inspiration from
>no rules, imagination is the limit
>tries his best to maximize the limited resources of the console using their own engine

artists now
>went to game dev school, his professor are noidevs whose credential is he read the software's help files and/or watched youtuber talk about vidya.
>his life experience is twitter
>drag and drop whatever is available in UE/Unity

>>714267743
Bug Fables. If you wanted to see a game iterate on TTYD's mechanics while gaining an identity of its own, there you go

>>714284681
8 > World > Wii > 64

JUST

>>714284992
when you outsource to india

>>714266035
The people that design these were absolutely mind broken by Elden Ring being successful despite simple, snappy menus. I loved seeing it.

>>714265030
The gall of the fucking gacha board daring to say this like you aren't the problem.

>>714264881
>>714267027
Looks to me like there's a pattern of 6 being a mistake.

>>714267197
I always appreciate that feature. Red Alert 2 remake when?

>>714266187
Nobody did the battle frontier anyway.

>>714283838
It kinda fucked up the soundtrack and some of the prerendered backgrounds. The 3D cutscenes are also inferior to sprite-based ones. But, I can forgive all of those for providing twice as much new game.

>>714267093
Whereas I was glad to be able to play it again, I wasn't all that happy about some of the changes in Mario RPG. The dialog change like removing the Bruce Lee line (the replacement isn't bad, its just I'd prefer a 1:1 with graphical changes). The inclusion of the super move thing that builds up over time for team attacks making it easier than it already was. Marios overall look just looks super awkward. Everyone but Mario and Peach look fine. Those 2 just look super squished down, so I wish they did a bit of extra leg work and adjusted his model a bit to look more proportional. And give Peach her neck back.

>>714257103 (OP)
>less detailed textures
What in the...

>>714282360
i do, if somebody says they got filtered by mgs I say try tts because it's funnier almost to the point of being a shitpost, and also way easier
mgs2's mechanics are peak, but shadow moses blows out big shell big time, ergo tts is kino
seethe tho i'm here for it

>>714267093
In a perfect world, games like Super Star Ultra and Heartgold/Soulsilver would be the standard for remaking old titles yeah.

>>714286851
One image is an incomprehensible blue puke, the other is a screenshot of Spyro on an ice level

>>714287020
Looks more like an incomprehensible greyish puke to me

>>714257626
i dont understand why riot changes the characters like this. you cpuld just update the visuals of the old model and give him the new abilities instead of just deleting old and making a new chaeacter with same name

>>714281074
>going to life drawing events in your hometown or nearby
>copying and referencing anime sex art online
>pirating resources or getting them off somewhere like the /ic/ megathread
>social media marketing bigger than ever
Yep. An actual art education is literally free if you’re willing to put in the effort.

>>714274686
>>714278778
>>714279078
Why are white men so fragile?

>>714259575
nintendo loves their anti soul gas

>>714270805
I don't wholly disagree with you, but being as 99% of the time you spend is looking at the map or unit animations, you don't want those to look like a shitty phone game. I still think a lot of the original sprite work for the COs also looks better but that's more a case by case basis.

>>714286098
The soundtrack is improved upon in some areas IMO. The new music is great too.

Agreed on the cutscenes, though.

>>714286753
>Netflix adaptation

>>714287496
Uh, said events I mentioned are not free.

>>714280193
The image that kept me from buying this shit.

>>714283838
SSU would be a perfect 10/10 if it wasn't on the DS. The SNES controller was better to handle than a DS, so I have to dock a point off Ultra for that. Still great though and emulates perfectly fine.

>>714288823
I did buy it and enjoyed myself but I'm very tired of Treehouse's bullshit and wish someone whipped them into shape. I miss the days NoE got their own English TL.

>>714264712
I would be ok with the top if they didn't just change her from talentfully balancing on the finger of the statue in Wutai to some generic nowhere location.

>>714267743
You have to look to indies and single A games. Maybe a handful of AA games like E33

>>714264747
It's YOUR fault.

>>714286396
Not seethe-worthy yet, but I don't agree with that reasoning. I struggle to comprehend how someone could be filtered by MGS. They either need to try harder or quit video games.

>>714259620
this is a capybara

>>714266018
It's a constant frustration for me with MH. They always want to do useless long animations for any UI interaction, that makes the whole menu navigation a slog

>>714257186
more like SOULLESSSTORM amirite

>>714258045
The new pokecenters lack soul for sure, but admittedly it's a lot more streamlined to just walk up to a desk outdoors

>>714294136
You know what would be even more streamlined? Having a Pokecenter in your start menu

>>714288823
I didn't even need that as motivation to skip the purchase. Can't believe those retards thought a TTYD remake was the correct appeasement for fans of the original gameplay style. It's just another failure to deliver in my eyes.

>>714294909
it's mind boggling to realize that there are people who defend this remake

>>714264712
only boomers hate the remake

>>714294897
If there was any game in the history of games that did NOT need a remake it is TTYD. Art style and design of original is literally perfect.

>>714262764
Mario has always done le wacky obstacle course in the sky for their games. It's just part of the theming at this point

>>714270659
this, the kenshin one, and the hunter x hunter one legit make me so angry

>>714258090
Right is better

>>714282360
You never played it

>>714257431
blame ux designers and the need to appeal to normies
anything that seems too nerdy or weird gets cut
something like the original menu in the original abes odyssey would be deemed to be too detailed

>>714299759
No it wouldn't. That's just nonsense made up by lazy UI designers and fed to suits

>>714294679
They couldn't even afford anti-soul gas in the foreground and had to put it behind the trees instead

>>714300201
it would
trust me
when dealing with the masses your visual communication needs to be crystal clear
thats why everything is so flat
its a business choice

>>714294909
>game characters don't age with their games-

>>714300490
That filters like 0.001% of the masses and is a downgrade for the remaining 99.999%. AAA devs have underestimated the average normies for decades now. It's like how they think yellow paint is essential, meanwhile shit like elden ring sells gangbusters.

>>714295371
Yeah I remember it having rabid defenders on release

>>714257547
yeah they evolved from birds which is why he turns into birds or something

>>714257103 (OP)
Both look good and are just different.

>>714300490
This is why yellow paint exists.

>>714262462
Lighting is definitely superior in the original but I think overall the art design in the remake/remaster whatever you wanna call it is faithful to the original.

>>714265646
>right-click -> Playback Speed -> 0.5x
...to see it more clearly.
There's a big difference in how early the menus accept input to let you advance.
I'm not saying if it's better or worse. There's valid points for both -- in the case of the slower one, you're trying to avoid accidental clicks from skipping important info.

>>714294136
I don't care, it's not worth it

>>714257103 (OP)
>lets make the paper grass shinny
wtf?

>>714303264
The fuck are you talking about?

>>714303264
Shiny = betterer

>>714278509
It's quite interesting that they removed the fine ornaments, like the one on the well. Those can give so much personality. They polished those surfaces, making them flat without any character. It is like erasing the personality of something or someone. Simply deleting what was written on those stones, erasing the culture, erasing the past and meaning. It is now just an ordinary crude well, built by no one special.

>>714257103 (OP)
Soul and soul.

>>714257186
>>714257626
>>714258045
The OP image was debatable but yeah, there's no defending these.
The Nunu shit still annoys me especially.
>>714257519
This one's fine. Kinda.
I like both.

>>714298725
I did play it. At the time I loved MGS and the idea of playing it in better graphics seemed great. I was an edgy teenager so I was particularly looking forward to seeing that Grey Fox hallway scene. Oof.

>>714257626
>>714287443
>>714304968
riot only makes significant changes on unpopular characters
see how characters like annie and master yi are the same after decades, if a character changed too much it's because no one found them appealing so they had to be changed

>>714257626
>big yeti becomes some fat faggot chinese dragon shit
death to Riot

>>714284581
underage panty quest > the rest
also
>not putting bootlicker warfare under government series

>>714265010
Graphic design in general is so much worse now.

>>714269273
You can't undo the main menu and char select shit with legacy graphics.
Enjoy your ugly fag art.

>>714269549
At least his arms aren't fucking BLUE!!!

>>714257103 (OP)
The only bad thing about the remake is the new music other than that it’s great

>>714305841
And sometimes they will selectively delete a character and replace them with an AI prompt that everyone hates.

>>714278509
>>714278596
>>714286753
so why do the people who scream about artistic integrity and keeping the original vision intact always stay silent when it comes to this shit

faggots bitch and moan when it comes to AI images taking people's art as reference (as much as I get it) but it's still totally okay for companies to let new millennial devs do this shit and 'improve' on the original instead of just taking the original and upscaling it?

WOWIE THE GRAPHICS LOOK SO MUCH MORE BETTERER AND PRETTIE AND OMG THEY DADDYFIED THE DRAGONS AND THE ENEMIES DON'T LOOK LIKE UGLY MUPPETS

it's not a remaster then. it's visual unity asset barf on what was already a visually inspiring and magical game that used limited technology to make something great.

I remember the first image was used for a good point someone posted about a while back, something about like 'the minimal usage of visuals being a great framework for a whimsical magic fantasy setting being lost in translation', but I can't find the post again

>>714267093
>ww hd
It ruined the art style, and cutting down the tri force quest shit doesnt solve the games actual problems

>>714271112
Reunion ruined every design

>>714257103 (OP)
Is it true they gave Vivian a penis?

>>714264453
Texturing is a lost art

I was told that due to international audiences, logos have all been redesigned to have basic Arial looking fonts and no decorations in order for people who aren't too familiar with english typography to immediately recognize whatever dumbass brand they're trying to sell. That's why all these big businesses changed to generic logos in order to appeal to more foreign interests.
I don't remember where I heard this from so I could be dead wrong, but it sounds correct and I'm not changing my mind any time soon

>>714267743
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk

>>714310250
Partially what you said, but also with the rise of smartphones, businesses wanted people to glance at their phones and have immediate recognition. When every logo was still made in the Frutiger Aero style, a solid block with a soft gradient stood out. The irony is that, now that every company has shifted to the generic blocky logos, they suffer from the same problem but in reverse.

>>714302256
>important info
>the item gets thrown back into the world for pickup again
literally no consequence to keeping this streamlined, stop talking about shit you know nothing about

>>714267761
r.fog 0 removes anti soul gas btw
pop in is rampant and it still looks like shit

>>714258232
>Paldea's Pokémon Centers make sense in the context of that game
Genuinely curious how you came to this conclusion. I played to the first gym before dropping SV and I have no understanding of any of the design choices. It's like they set out to make the most unlikeable world ever created, and then took it out of the oven way too early.

>>714310996
Agreed this is great
Best song;
https://youtu.be/nJqTkqyiOHI?si=12jSyQ-Zdzqyg-hL

>>714262462
>The lightning strikes illuminating Ganon
3D is embarrassing

>>714312109
>in this specific case, it's fine!
Oh. Can you think of a case where fast-clicking would put you in trouble, or do you suffer from aphantasia?

>>714262764
This is why I utterly despise 3D land and 3D world, the levels are so unimmersive.

>>714313193
>yeah an extra atmosphere would suck shit here on earth but the moon would love it!
Why am I supposed to be the one deflecting away from a solved mechanic made worse by thinking of other game?

>>714308847
You're annoying.

>>714309485
>gave
Always was. Did most of his porn not tip you off?

>>714313219
>the levels are so unimmersive
Yeah that's so unlike a mario game

>>714262462
I give OOT 3D a pass because it was meant to be played on the tiny 3DS screen, possibly outdoors.

>>714310996
It aint as good as JSRF but it got close
>the momentum was off, being on the skateboards or whatever never felt like you were actually on wheels you just stop too fast like you're running or walking
>too trick heavy for a simple trick system, needed more platforming in its stages

But it was still rad

>>714281482
It's probably an emulator with options enabled that improve mode-7 visuals.

remo is rome. peschi is fish. thöse half masters? xD knew what they wear döink
all the new dreck dönt. Ähkzzept that trenTiNö X D

>>714257103 (OP)
I don't understand why every Paper Mario past Super has made it a point to emphsize how "fake" the world is, with its paper craft. No, shit, that's what makes it charming, you don't get points for saying how fake a puppet show looks, it's supposed to, it's a fantastical story that embraces what it is, and your head fills in the gaps.

>>714257103 (OP)
>soul vs soulless
*old vs new

>>714305841
poppy was way more interesting before they changed her skills. After change, I just deleted game

>>714267196
>what the fuck is readability who fucking cares JAM MORE LIGHTS IN MORE LIGHTS = MORE GOODER GAME

>>714316756
Good writing is when you point out the obvious with a smug grin

>>714259686
>golden age
>Assassin's Creed in the thumbnail

>>714257103 (OP)
the longer you look at it the worse it gets

>>714267761
Top looks better and I'm tired of pretending otherwise

>>714265275
spaz

>>714269549
Amen sister

>>714317840
it was back then

>>714262462
In my 30's but will never understand how people can like the top one more other than nostalgia or just trolling.

>>714264876
Why do I get so horny seeing this

>>714318310
That's the only one I've played though.

>>714318532
saar

>>714317694
The original FF7 would have wanted it this way.

>>714258617
stencil shadows are literally lost technology

>>714278949
The sun being in the foreground is canon to Mario

>>714306628
Left looks like a blueberry
Right looks like a blueberry I want to wreck my anus

>>714266548
1>3>>>>>>2 desu

>>714262764
I fucking hated that world in DKTF. The "le telling le story!!!" creates levels with shit flow, nonsensical obstacles, and poor readability. The best levels in DKTF were the K-levels, the bonus world, and the earlier levels that were more just theming.

>>714258617
left: FMV kino
right: gmod model poser

>>714267743
Sonic Mania

>>714313219
>the levels are so unimmersive.
Mario games are never immersive, every 3D mario game has the "bunch of shit floating in the void"

>>714287443
to make it appealing to chinkoids and gooks

>>714278834
You would just be paying for emulation. They're never gonna do a native port

>>714282663
even if theyre soulless by the old standards, but by todays standards they are literally the most soulful games ever.
Think about how fucked that is. How these games which would be considered mostly "good" back then are considered god tier now because games have gotten so shit

>>714275114
this, if outer wilds was a PS2 game, /v/ would literally never stop talking about it (they already never stop talking about it)

>>714300960
maybe it's ok for some people to be lost, maybe they'll learn something

>>714313464
So you do have aphantasia (lack of imagination).
In some hypothetical game with an ultra-fast menu response like that, you could end up using an unwanted consumable item during a battle; skipping dialogue that gives out an important location that you need to go to (though that'd probably be repeated upon you interacting with the character again, if there's such a chance); other situations that I can't think of while writing this.
Letting the user click away menu screens without some safety delay might result in accidents. That's the point of having the response be slower, you're trying to avoid accidents.
But I did get offended at your "shit you know nothing about", so go fuck yourself.

>>714257103 (OP)
Mario RPG is the soul
Paper mario is the souless

>>714326027
They're both soul

>>714325978
>but other game
Dobson, is that you? The menu pause doesn't work well for paper mario you dumb fuck and who fucking cares if you dream up a scenario where it does? It doesn't change the fact that they enshittened it for no reason in a game where it worked flawlessly.
The accident is immediately rectifiable in paper mario. I don't fucking care if it doesn't work for mario teaches typing.

>>714267975
This. Track is fun but I've always thought it was a complete failure thematically wise.
They should've just went the obvious route and put a bunch of candy around. Might have made it more memorable too.

>>714284992
Thank fuck you only need an old CD Key to play online WC3 and not reforged. Though fuck does it feel awful to play the campaign on Reforged, only to suddenly be disconnected for no reason or have some of the enemies turn invisible.

>>714326665
There's so much to shit on in the rework, it's like you see something new each time it's posted
this time it's
>dock posts completely disappear when the fish collides with them

>>714271112
So this is the power of outsourcing

>>714309419
No.
Dio is perfect and you know it.

>>714326665
IM GETTING A NARCISSISTIC INJURY

>>714264453
look how they massacred my boy

>>714261016
>Ff7 rebirth is honestly full of soul.
you are a shit eater

>>714257519
You oughta go full furry with men, Kemonomimi only works when they're women.

>>714258615
Has anyone done at least a replacement of textures and skyboxes to be closer to the original? I've seen some unfortunate geometry changes that don't feel like they understood the actual stage, but that's harder to fix

>>714269497
You monkeypawed us into wasting an entire race slot in fucking Hrothgars.

>>714287496
You gotta pay for life drawing models anon chan

>>714264652
the remaster looks kinda bad but you're retarded if you think the top doesn't look worse

>>714258308
You didn't even show tifa's original tits. If you want to complain about the tit size at least show the original you fag.

>>714282360
Say that again...

>>714264453
Can't show skeletons, it upsets the Chinese.

>>714265373
>>714265404
>>714265432
This game was in development hell do to outside forces so it really never had a chance.

>>714267093
>MM3D
>Wind Waker
I'll kill you

>>714317902
highly retarded

>>714262462
I am always shocked how people rightfully shit on MM3D, but give OOT3D a pass

>>714257186
Baby's first unreal engine game kind of menu on the right side
Is it really that difficult to at least have the character in some level or something else, something that isn't a black void

>>714265516
jesus

>>714257103 (OP)
okay now imagine the top is the new one and the bottom is the old one. you'd have the same fit

>>714318231
2010s were truly an awful time for sonic

>>714333080
I'm still mad about this one

>>714334075
The main issue IMO is that the original just didn't need a remake, not really. Something like metroid zero works, because it was such a leap in tech you can't make these types of comparisons.
But modern tech has stagnated, so remakes just end up being expensive upscales.

>>714332282
i love that he has jiggle physics on his ass

>>714257103 (OP)
I have such an intense dislike for remakes and remasters it's unreal

>>714335512
it's like every piece of good old media ever made has to go through the great soulless filter of modernity

>>714262462
One of the most kino moments in video games, ruined by such a simple change to lighting.

>>714334075
probably, but that's because one is a remake of the other
if the ttyd remake was a sequel in that style I'd still be upset they're pushing the paper realism meme but I would think it looked good, but because the realized visuals of ttyd already exist in the original ttyd, the remake's just seems dumb

>>714335512
Oh fucking hell, that looks awful

>>714333354
>Retarded for liking saturated and colorful environment

>>714257103 (OP)
>IF THEY DON'T REMAKE THE GAME EXACTLY 1:1 I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF
if only there were something you could do if you wanted to play the exact same game, but I just can't think of anything.

>>714335678
I give twails of mana a pass because it was clearly made on a shoestring budget.

players hate this! learn this one trick to make your game soulless! [click now]

>>714266008
What's plain to see is that the danger sign has less paint spread, which in the original could have been seen as being written in blood or at least in haste evoking a sense of either urgency or seriousness, to something carefully and slowly crafted with no care in the world. The old one's bridge starts with distinctly-Tiki structures. The new one's pillars could be mistaken for something electrical. First thing that came to mind was a coil.
This is not a deal breaker for me, it's more of an outlier.

>>714333960
This is a good example. I dont think the new is necessarily bad but there's just so much more sovl in the original. Even just how the armadillo turns; the remake you can see the path and rotation that has been set for it. The original just looks more natural.
Imperfection = sovl

>>714336014
I swear this shit annoys me more than basically anything else in vidya at this point. there's absolutely no fucking need for it
it's as if not a single person in the industry is a classically trained artist anymore and understands contrast and how to make an actually pleasing image

>>714258045
>"Yes Mayor I agree, let's put the hospital next to the convivence store."

I fucking hate remakes/remasters. All they do is try to replace the original game and convince everyone that the original is literally unplayable, just because it doesn't have homogenized console controls and 4k/144fps visuals.
Just tint the screen slightly blue and add some fog and most people will just eat that shit up.

>>714269070

Game?

>>714336249
OSRS to RS3 would be a better comparison here, chronicles is going for its own thing.

>>714336310
savage

>>714280193
>he's so clumsy in heels!!
>lots of intense folks down here
>lunkhead
these lines are so gay

>>714336218
best part is when they say 'just play the original if you don't like it!', ignoring the fact that the remake / remaster often replaces the original listings as the original game gets taken down from stores, the remake will show up first in search results, and if it didn't get removed then the remake will stop the original being ported to newer platforms (like the original DeS not appearing on the PS4 or PS5)

>>714335835
it looks like ass, you can't just say "saturation good" when the colors are ugly. you can fix the washed out look on the bottom pretty easily if you really cared but it looks fine

>>714286136
We also lost the Card Heart symbols sadly

>>714305841
Poppy's visual rework is OK but man they absolutely lobotmized her. Her new lines bummed me out so much it was the final straw in me dropping the game for good.

>>714336562
How did I never realize this? I noticed the heart with peach, but that's always been her thing, and I noticed the spade with mario, but didn't put the rest together.

>>714336482
It's also a Ship of Theseus situation. Every time you remake a game, you basically create something new, which will be used as the basis for the next time it's remade or ported. Slowly, but surely, erasing the original, bit by bit.
I guess I don't really care for remakes/remasters, but make the original title available.

>>714335756
Don't tell me people actually defend that popeye shit character models from the original?

>>714336719
yeah

>>714264712
Can someone explain what it is that makes the bottom look more aesthetically pleasing? Same with those old Mario 64 renders. Not even modern CGI compares to them

>>714264581
Why did they give him hentai quills?

>>714336849
The high contrast shadows, simpler textures and models just look clean and neat. It's also as simple as nostalgia, whether you played the games or not.

>>714265129
It pisses me off that the majority of people who played Demon's Souls did it through the remake, and this is what they had to put up with. Worse yet, they think it's an improvement

>>714284352
cope.

>>714336218
They were fine, in my opinion, until they decided they had to censor or change stuff because people wouldn't be able to handle it. Of course, I was thinking about the Kingdom Hearts remasters when I said fine, but the PS3 one had a broken final boss in KH2 and there were missing sounds. Roxas didn't just use Ventus's voice clips in the original version. But since it got a PC release, we have stuff like ReFined.

>>714258045
Would have been the GOAT pokecenter if this was based in California

>>714335678
Playing the fan translation multiple times, I hate how some names got changed like

Hawk becoming Hawkeye
Navarre becoming Nevarl?
Carlie becoming Charlotte
Isabella becoming Belladonna

The location names and others are way worse. Perhaps I played the fan translation too much

>>714335842
>YOU CAN'T SAY MY SHITTY REMAKE LOOKS LIKE SHIT
Looks like shit, sorry.

>>714334960
original metroid sucks without a map
>inb4 b-but you make your own
I don't feel like lowering the controller to draw a goddamn map on grid paper

>>714337409
Speaking of Kingdom Hearts I do like that Re:Chain of Memories adds a Zexion fight that wasn’t in the GBA original

>>714337462
are the mana games good?

>>714336030
There's no fucking way this is real

>>714266035
Templates happened.

>>714337695
you'd be surprised

>>714266035
The Witcher 3 is 9/11 to game design

>>714294221
Fuck it, just remove health bars.

>>714336849
Original is her standing on a giant statue carved on a cliff above her hometown, demake is just a generic forest that they might have ripped from somewhere real. og pre-renders have harsh contrasting shadows and a otherworldly feel that is interesting to look at, modern graphics evokes nothing from the viewer, you could replace Yuffie with a real girl and the image would blend in with a million real life pictures on instagram nobody would notice.

>>714257103 (OP)
Og > remaster > remake

Every time, only exceptions are on handhelds

1 or 2?

>>714269472
>OOT3D is superior in almost every other area
no it fucking didn't plenty of other places that were supposed to be dark or at least dim (like basically all adult temples) were blown out in the remake

>>714267743
there really is only one I can think of

>>714338589
The only places it actually matters are the Shadow Temple and Bottom of the Well. Everywhere else looks better and all the character models look better

>>714267093
HGSS and ZM are the only two that belong. HGSS because they are actually that good and ZM because it might as well be a different game.

>>714338301
1

>>714338971
forest temple looked especially shitty and this was a problem all over the game, you might be what's really soulless

>>714335756
I love the chibi models in the og and the colorful but still grimy prerendered backgrounds. Always disappointed whenever people dump on the original games visuals.

>>714335932
I used to cope about 1.22 but its just not worth it, and im a brother nier guy. I prefer the og and its not close.

>>714339348
The top looks better. Darker lighting only actually mattered in those two dungeons I mentioned and the final boss.
I bet you think the new castle town is horrendous even though the original is one of the shittiest prerendered background of the generation and looks awful

>>714338156
locking multiplayer until you beat story mode is such a fucking retarded idea

>>714339694
(you)

>>714336849
Every single detail matters more in the bottom. Nothing went to waste, far more handcrafted. Its like looking at a gorgeous painting of a mountain, vs a real life picture.

>>714339613
>*pees on your game*
now we're talking

>>714257103 (OP)
super soul

>>714336849
I wish I had the words but it's just better in every way, even the model somehow lol.

>>714264712
>>714267196

>>714272717
they claim it adds depth or some shit but I can look out my fucking window which leads to a view across a river into another country with oceans and mountains to the left and there isn't any fucking anti-soul gas

Excellent thread!

multiversus "open beta" vs "full release"

>>714257519
They made a cock and ball torture two?!

>>714337609
play Metroid Planets then

>>714336218
If the game has bloom, get rid of it, if it doesnt have bloom add it. Make millions of dollars instantly because consoomers are fucking retarded

>>714264712
This is one of the most flattering pics of 7r, in a vacuum i would say it looks really good but it cant compare to the original
>>714340041
This one is a little eh
>>714267196
Interesting image but completely different vibe

>>714262764
this is bait by the way

>>714264487
They fumbled the hud so bad in ggst it should be talked about more. And they havent fixed it in the many seasonal updates either.

>>714333354
based fog enjoyer

>>714342768
I actually am a fog enjoyer and I have a phd in soul/soulless.
some fog = good
some fog = bad
simple as

>>714336758
how about the unique look of the original elevator compared to the bland new elevator

>>714318532
Because you're Jewish.

>>714318478
you had to be there

>>714264881
I love the III logo. Why was alpha excluded though?