Thread 714273309

A certain major gaming site will soon post an exclusive reveal of a huge expansion for Dragon's Dogma 2. It's not just a DLC, the base game is also getting a substantial free update that will go out to everyone at the same time as the expansion release.

First, the free update for the base game world.
>Loot overhaul - better gear can be found and chests have a random factor. Includes new gear
>A few new creature variants (not new types)
>Spawn points overhaul - less spammy and non-boss spawns now have random enemy selection
>A small number of high level dungeons have been added
>New QoL options, such as auto-continue dialogue
>Hard Mode

The DLC
>brand new snowy region similar in size to Vermund
>new enemies
>includes a sprawling dungeon, significantly larger than BBI
>designed to be highly replayable with both enemies & bosses having a random factor
>2 new vocations
>a few new skills for all vocations
>COOP has been added, but only within the DLC dungeon area

DD2 was a massive disappointment, accept that and move on. Coping will get you nowhere.

>>714273309 (OP)
Prove it or eat my ass

>>714273309 (OP)
I want to believe you but... WY not show this during their showcase?

True if big

Dragon's dogma has yet to get a sequel so im not sure how there'd be dlc

>>714273742
I'll show you something big
fetches OPs mom

>>714273309 (OP)
Let it go

>>714273309 (OP)
I don't think I can forgive them even if they improve and fix EVERYTHING

>>714273309 (OP)
God I wish, but this is bullshit.
Have a kot anyway.

>>714273309 (OP)
appreciate the effort of making it somewhat believable but nah man, all hope is gone

>>714273309 (OP)
Thatd be cool, but Capcom has moved on from this and hasnt updated it with anything, so its not true. I dont expect they are going to shadow drop this sort of thing if they were working on it, DD has been out for over a year, and Capcom has mentioned nothing of an expansion or even content, the game is effectively finished, unfortunately.
>turns out, DD2 is one of their best selling games of ALL TIME outside of their tentpole franchises
>do nothing with it
I swear its out of spite, they never wanted to make this, Itsuno did, and hes no longer there, so they no longer have to humour him.

Are you the rift guy or any of these shill YouTube faggots? This is pathetic, you living failure, you child.

>>714273309 (OP)
This is the saddest thread I've seen in months...

>>714274258
did they really bully Itsuno out of the company? both Hirabayashi and Tsujimoto sound like a pair of meanies.

>>714273309 (OP)
>Dragon's Dogma fans
>tags: [rape] [mind break]

BERNIE CAN STILL WIN

>>714273309 (OP)
DD2 is unironically a worse game than DDON

>>714273505
It's MGSV all over again

never in my life was i more wrong than in predicting capcom to be the last bastion of triple A Good Games.
that said, I enjoyed Punk Duck's video on this game. Maybe his magnus oppus
https://youtu.be/8xtQ2STDEq8

>>714273679
Maybe they want to give it it's own platform if real?

Actually thinking back, didn't IGN have a full month of exclusive DD2 reveals before its release?

>>714275361
>Maybe they want to give it it's own platform if real?
that's how the initial reveal went by. IIRC at TGS they had a separate panel to reveal DD2 right at the end of it.

>>714274756
Capcom turned to shit a good while ago. For a moment it seemed like they were getting better but now they're shit again. The company is more profitable than ever even though it deserves to be dragged behind a shed and shot.

>>714275551
I thought this right after DMC5 was released, and I was still riding high off the PC port of World

>>714276285
Not coincidentally right before the video game market was overwhelmed by third world shitskins desperate to spend their newfound first world income on status (lol) symbols like gaming pcs and AAA video games

>>714273309 (OP)
and it's raining post toasties

tig if brue, but I think I'll stick to Dragon's Crown

>>714274436
Seems like he was a guy that wanted to go bigger and bigger with his ideas, and Capcom wants to just stay in their lane and only give a budget to household name titles and nothing else. They took his ideas and canibalized them for their pet projects, and then when they gave him the opportunity to make the thing for himself they seem to have just cut him off and then said "well, looks like your ideas werent so good after all" and he seemingly left mid development and just formally left after the game came out. It was always his intention to leave before DMCV, the whole reason he stayed was because they proposed he could make fucking DD, and then they shafted him on it.

Monster Hunter has AI teammates with different behaviours now btw.

>>714273309 (OP)
>COOP has been added
This is all DD2 really needed to be better than the first game
>but only within the DLC dungeon area
FUCK
Either way I hope you're not making this shit up I need something to sink a bunch of time into.

>>714276471
>and he seemingly left mid development
first time hearing about this
>Monster Hunter has AI teammates with different behaviours now btw.
I hope Tsujimoto gets run over by a bus

>>714274509
Having played both I disagree. DDO is MMO grind shite, even on the tweaked servers to boost XP gain it is a slog, sure it has lots of content and more variety, but its also a fucking MMO grindfest where you repeat the same content over and over to grind out levels and an "MMO story" where nothing you do matters. I do not want DD to be that. Take the grand missions and dungeons and some of the mechanics like how mage casts spells and put it in an actual singleplayer DD game, shit, add the coop component to the grand missions and dungeons only where you can play with another person and their pawn. As it is now its just a light show of particle effects with people doing attacks and you cant see shit other than the health bars. Its fucking gay MMO shit anon.

Unironically, if you like DDO play Black Desert Online, you might like it.

>>714276938
>Unironically, if you like DDO play Black Desert Online, you might like it.
how's the combat and exploration both in overworlds and dungeons? that's all I care about

We already know this from the leaked Capcom documents from last year. Their time table has been adjusted likely since Dragons dogma was only minor success and not a Monster Hunter World level of success.

>>714273309 (OP)
None of this will happen

>>714277083
>since Dragons dogma was only minor success and not a Monster Hunter World level of success.
they must be fucking mad if they were expecting a half-assed game of a niche IP to sell as much as MHW

>>714273309 (OP)
>still has denuvo on it
Hard pass

>>714273309 (OP)
All of this is happening + (You)'ll be getting a raise and a cute gf during the next few weeks. Enjoy life anon!

>>714273309 (OP)
>snowy region similar
Nice try, but seriously, get help.

>>714273309 (OP)
This is the 3rd or 4th "leak" and each said completely different shit

height slider status?

>>714273309 (OP)
Don't do this, anon, do you think it's fun to mess with my feelings?

>>714273309 (OP)
Dont' fucking get my hopes up, I don't want to be disappointed

>>714273309 (OP)
Are they going to fix the main quest? No? Then fuck off

>>714277615
OP wouldn't lie

>>714273309 (OP)
>Capcom addressing the problems of the game and fixing them
>For free
Let it go man, it is fate

Just fucking let it go you animals

>>714273309 (OP)
NIIIICEEE!
Can’t wait for more DD2 blast kino.

>>714273309 (OP)
just stop this and kill yourself man, it isn't funny any more
make up some shit for an actual living game that people play and want content for

>>714277080
Its action combat as oppose to the standard MMO fare of tab targetting and waiting for auto attacks, the combat is actually pretty good. The world is generic fantasy, but its fucking huge and nicely detailed, especially for an MMO that is quite old. The comabt isnt as fast paced and grounded as DD but its certianly more involved.

Also has an impressive charactrer creator like DD.

>>714273309 (OP)
Anon, I also love DD2, but all that copium fried your brain.

While we're pretending we don't live in the worst timeline, we may as well also pretend CAPCOM has also suddenly revealed that they greenlit MML3 for the Switch 2 and will be providing a copy of the canceled 3DS demo as a pre-order bonus.

I hope people remember that in 4 years time and theres no more DD content let alone an expansion for DD2, Capcom said they consider DD a keystone franchise and paid out investors early because of it. I want people to remember that companies will put information like that out there just to look appealling at the time to investors and know youll forget it.

DD deserved better than this, I just want a game like this that isnt so lacking in ambition. Ive come to hate roll slop Soulslikes, but thats all the action RPG is now.

>>714273309 (OP)
Why now? Why not three months ago?

>>714278148
ty anon, I might check it out. I also hope picrel is good and gives me a nice adventure fix.

>>714273309 (OP)
let’s fucking go.

>>714273505
well, I personally had a blast.

>>714278581
I've seen this picture before.....it must be a year ago

>>714273309 (OP)
It's just a fucking remake of the first, with a very short "secret chapter"
The game also doesn't work without going through several hoops. This shit is so fucked. Japs are turning jeet-tier

>>714273309 (OP)
While I drink DD2 hopium daily and rewlly like the game, they won't announce any DLC for a while.
They've got RE9, Pragmata, and Onimusha to promote.

It would serve them better to have it announce once at least one of those are out the way.

that's bullshit but i believe it
i will support you in manifesting

DDfags, I feel for you. I’m still waiting on Capcom to fulfill their end of the promise and fix Lost Planet 2 and put it back on steam.

>>714278685
well yea, I was in the comfy DD2 threads back when it first released.

>>714273309 (OP)
So can someone spoonfeed a faggot and explain what DD2 did wrong? As an outsider looking in- It just looks more of the same.

It's also DD1 is game whenever I lurk threads about why it's great 90% of the discussion is moreso on the story/writing than actual mechanics and gameplay, similiar to Cyberpunk.

>>714279386
its a niche game that got a sequel and when the sequel ended up being the same niche gameplay from the first, normal faggots started shitting and pissing their skirts.

>>714273309 (OP)
we are officially entering MGSV Caramel-tier schizophrenia

>>714279115
The good times...

>>714278767
Nah, you're a fucming retard. They have -nothing- between now and the end of the fiscal year. They need a late Q3 or Q4 release for Holiday 2025 and haven't announced anything.

>>714279386
>>714279496
it has nothing to do with being niche, the game sold 3M copies quite fast until bad word of mouth started spreading.
Reasons for the game's failure:
>MTX up the ass
>none of the first games faults were fixed: still low enemy variety, still easy as piss
>worse story than DD1
>worse characters than DD1 with barely any charm to them
>clearly half-finished

>>714279496
This

>>714279386
A bunch of people who didn't really like the original so much as they liked the idea of a game that's similar but superior in all respects got mad when DD2 was merely "more DD1" instead of their overblown faggot dream game.

>>714279675
>They have -nothing- between now and the end of the fiscal year
RE9, which is very bad news for the RE bros

>>714273309 (OP)
>source: my crack pipe

>>714273505
OP is most likely a fag, but with a serious expansion like dd1 had then it could definetly improves but wont be better than dd:da

>>714279843
RE9 is late Feb. They have nothing between NOW and the very very end of the fiscal year other than Street Fighter and Monster Hunter updates.

>>714277437
We are so fucking back!

>>714279936
>RE9 is late Feb
japan's fiscal year ends in April 1st

>>714280016
Yes and late Feb leaves them with 30 days in the fiscal year. They're dropping RE9 there to try to pad the overall fiscal year as most jap devs do. That still leaves like... 7 fucking empty months with no new major releases. DD2 DLC would fit perfectly.

>>714279386
It was very clearly rushed out the door.
The story/quests is lackluster and poorly thought out.
Missing areas and caves/dungeons that end abruptly or go nowhere.

People just wanted a finished dragon's dogma and they couldn't deliver - probably because crapcom couldn't stop pushing for an early release.

If DD2 released in 2015 people would be treating it like it
s citizen kane

>>714279386
It's not really a bad game. It's just that DD1 was something special for reasons that are hard to explain, and the fact that DD2 somehow managed to feel backwards compared to it was really distressing for people who bought into the hype.

For every step it took forward, it took two steps back. It seems like they had a shit ton of really ambitious ideas that they were unable to polish enough (or at all, really) until they shined. The whole thing just feels like squandered potential from start to finish, *especially* for people who were fans of the first game.

why do Dogmatroons make up fake "leaks" so often? i feel like i see one every week

>>714273309 (OP)
never ever

>>714280284
The way it is now, it's a worse game than DD:DA. The only genuinely good thing about it are its graphics, which are admittedly gorgeous.

>>714280386
>more/better -everything- [biomes, vocations, cities, sidequests, monsters]
There is nothing squandered about it. It's literally just retarded niggers who are like >"actually without BBI I think Dragon's Dogma is gay and lame"
Literally just thirdies who never played base OG DD1

>>714280652
DD:DA is an expanded release with DLC packed in nigger. If/when the DD2 dlc hits then the comparison will be valid and not a moment before.

>>714273309 (OP)
silly

>>714279675
Now think about that. TGS is in september, that is the last major showcase of the year, do you honestly believe that that is where they are going to drop the annoucement and have it release by december at latest?

>>714280896
Yes the last stop on the Copium Express is TGS or Gamescom.

>>714273309 (OP)
so true, we're also getting a collab with Pragmata

>major gaming site
It's gonna be IGN isn't it? They had loads of exclusive stuff for DD2 before its release

>>714273309 (OP)
Is this before or after Konami releases Chapter 3 for MGS5?

>>714281107
hope theres a MH Wilds colab. two blasts of a game linking up.

Dragon's Dogma 3 releases in 2 weeks!!

>>714280681
I never played the base game so I can't speak for anons who have. But there really isn't much of an excuse for them releasing DD2 without something at least a little similar to BBI.

>more/better -everything-
There is literally less of everything except land mass. Even the number of crafting recipes was significantly less lmao. The only thing the giant fucking map did was completely ruin the game's pacing. The reason I loved DD1 was because it really felt like I was going on a grand adventure and exploring the world never felt dull to me. Exploration in DD2 is a fucking chore.

>>714280968
I wish I had your optimism. The lack of updates for DD2 shows they have just moved on, or, that htye are holding onto that content that wouldve been updates so they can drop it in one major package when more eyes will be on it, rather than bits and pieces in updates after the games relevance.

I dont want this to be the end of DD for sure, but I think this is it.

>>714276520
>if you want COOP, you have to buy the base game AND dlc
That is 100% a capcom move, they know FOTM coopers who didn't buy DD2 at release as it wasn't coop will now pay up

Also didn't the leaked dev build have code related to a multiplayer area? Might be something that was always planned and developed, but cut before release.

>>714281440
>There is literally less of everything except land mass
No. There isn't.

>kill 30 seagulls
Isn't a a quest and the bestiary is objectively bigger.

It mogs DD1 in all respects other than filler quests like escorts and signboard "kill 20 rabbits" dogshit

>>714281709
>lack of updates
They have patched it several times over the past months. Little performances fixes and shit but it shows the devs are still active on it

>>714273309 (OP)
>dd2
Oh yeah, THAT blast happened.

>>714273309 (OP)
i quit when i hit that fucking mountain town
>goblin fight #23432545
>ogre fight #16

Why do Dragons Dogma fans behave like sad vagrants

>>714281985
yeah they even patched the character creator demo, for whatever reason. Thing is, Capcom's still paying for Denuvo which is my only current source of hopium.

>>714281960
No it was some "endless tower" and "the moon". Which is not in the game but is in the trailers suspciously.

>>714281985
That seems like plugging holes on the ship rather than doing anything with it. The most substantive update was adding casual mode, the opposite of what people are asking for, but again, that could be because its going to get packaged in something major where more eyes would be on it. Same with the distinct lack of cosmetics DLC. They could sell it piece meal when noone is playing the game, or they can put it in the expansion/update for the game and make it a big deal that they added lots of new stuff, which would be a pretty smart way to go about it.

>>714282072
Shitposts eh? I shant deny, they have their uses.

>>714273309 (OP)
It is finally happening Dogmabros! We are about to have a blast once again!

>>714282103
They're not "still paying" for denuo, they buy 2 year licenses to slap on all their new games now. But with that up early next year, it does make sense if they reveal the DLC this summer/early autumn and release it later in the year before the license expires.

>>714273309 (OP)
Cool wish list. None of it matters until they fix the character creator.

>>714273309 (OP)
calling it now, this is probably some jewtuber post that he will reference in a youtube video about how a totally real leaker posted on the dangerous forums of 4chan that DD2 is gonna be SAVED and isn’t literal abandonware
probably the Rift

>>714282719
>They're not "still paying" for denuo, they buy 2 year licenses to slap on all their new games now.
https://youtu.be/2G1YXm2QYaI

>>714273309 (OP)
chat is this real? I sure hope it is.

>>714282267
>That seems like plugging holes on the ship rather than doing anything with it
Nah. The sales of the game wouldn't be improved by the shit they were doing

This is the sort of patch notes we saw this year.
>Fixing issue where the resistance index of some enemies and NPCs towards some status anomalies wasn't reflected correctly.
This isn't the kind of patch that makes them any money. This is the kind of patch you push out because you're working on a different branch of the software but found some fixes.
>They could sell it piece meal when noone is playing the game, or they can put it in the expansion/update for the game and make it a big deal that they added lots of new stuff, which would be a pretty smart way to go about it.
Yes which is why the DLC seems likely and possible still.

>>714282267
the moon was from a screenshot and the endless tower was from a dev talk about DD1, im talking about the leaked dev build of DD2 that got out post-launch. I coulda sworn there was specific wording references to "multiplayer" found, but coulda just been someone shitposting.

>>714282885
I believe it.
DD2 was a financial success for Capcom after all.

TWO MORE WEEKS
TRUST THE PLAN

>>714273309 (OP)
I actually liked DD2 but I am doubtful that an expansion or big update will happen. Itsuno left and Capcom seems to be prioritizing Monster Hunter, they don't really give a fuck about DD anymore. I hope I am wrong though.

>>714282051
and it shall happen again.

>>714273309 (OP)
will they fix the atrocious performance?

>>714274258
What the fuck is with this history revisionism?
>>turns out, DD2 is one of their best selling games of ALL TIME
Game literally only sold 3m thanks to capcom massive mrketing campaign(even RE and MH weren't shilled as hard as this), it happened in first month and then sales dropped off so hard, it's hilarious
>I swear its out of spite, they never wanted to make this, Itsuno did,
Yes, and they obviously never game Itsune retard handler, this is why itsuno's "genius" decisions like
>less active abilities, because fuck situational abilities from first game
>fuck random loot and exploration
>fuck having story that makes even little bit sense
>fuck having endgame
Ruined entire experience

>>714283334
Capcom ain’t buying you a new pc
no matter how much you cry lil bro.

>>714283095
a financial success in that they gave it a budget of 3 noodle pots and a farewell bow to itsuno. Imagine what DD2 could've been if they actually gave it some proper investment & support

>>714281985
>bestiary is objectively bigger
Here's a Reddit post that goes through the number of enemy types in each game:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1bskcw9/enemy_variety_list_dd1_vs_ddda_vs_dd2/

Pic related is the summary of his post in case you're afraid of opening the link.

>>714280764
Saying that DD2 can't be compared to DD1 until they release a DLC is absurd lmao. I didn't buy DD2 at launch because I expected it to be a worse game than the one they released 10 fucking years earlier. Less vocations, less enemies, less inventory items, less equipment slots. There is no justification for any of this besides "we ran out of time but had to pubrish the game anyway, prease understand."

>>714276471
>Monster Hunter has AI teammates with different behaviours now btw.
Mh had them since rise, game that predates dd2
Itsuno just was lazy and wanted to make them more "cinematic" compared to even first game pawns.

>>714283504
DD2 was a financial success for Capcom and thats a fact. everything you wrote is nothing but cope and schizophrenic head cannon.

>>714273309 (OP)
Still having a blast

>>714283814
based blast haver

>>714283334
It's been over a year, and Wilds is fucked too.
They can't do anything, the engine is complete shit.

>>714283814
THE WIND IS PUSHING ME

>>714283814
THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEEE

>>714283949
works great on my machine (base ps5 model)

>>714273309 (OP)
Nice. I bought the game expecting to hate it but I loved it.

>>714284020
Yes yes I bet you're enjoying that 480p sub 30 fps, you console faggots don't know any better.
But some people have higher standards.

>>714273309 (OP)
Sure buddy.

>>714283504
>Imagine what DD2 could've been if they actually gave it some proper investment & support
What more could they possible give to it outside of better director?
Shit had more people working on it than MH World/
DD2 had unprecedent marketing campaign
Capcom really wanted it to be their next core franchise, but Itsuno and his insane decisions like "no random loot, people hate exploration" killed game

>>714284213
whatever helps you cope bro.
here I am having an absolute blast with DD2 and Wilds on my base ps5 and 180hz ips monitor, while a miserable nigger like you cant enjoy shit and you daily existence is pure seethe.

>>714283596
>Here's a Reddit post that goes through the number of enemy types in each game:
It's wrong so... Nice try dumdum
>Saying that DD2 can't be compared to DD1 until they release a DLC is absurd lmao
No, it's common sense. One cannot rightly be upset that a base game without expansion lacks in content when compared to one that does.
> I didn't buy DD2 at launch because I expected it to be a worse game than the one they released 10 fucking years earlier
Yes, you're an ignorant retard who didn't realize DD:DA was the "GotY Edition" and doesn't represent the baseline DD experience.

>Less vocations
Objectively false lmfao
>less enemies
Also false
>less inventory items
Might be true, haven't looked at items
>less equipment slots
This is a fair complaint.


>There is no justification for any of this besides "we ran out of time but had to pubrish the game anyway, prease understand."
The justification is that half your complaints are factually, numerically wrong lol and the rest are weakened by the fact that you expect a game without DLC to be as feature and content rich as one without.

>>714284398
Capcom literally said it was a success and is now a core franchisealongside RE/SF/MH and no amount of revisionism changes that

>>714276471
>he left mid development
Source? Google's AI outright says that's false, and it doesn't look like there are any information that verifies that.

>>714278998
I forgot about Lost Planet, that's another game I loved that Capcom has completely abandoned.
Why are nips like this?

>>714276471
why do anti blast having tranny faggots feel the need to constantly conjure up tales and myths and soap opera dramas surrounding Itsuno san’s (God bless his soul) deputy from Capcom?
so strange man.

Is it not a bit late for a DLC? it's gonna be near the 2 year point before it comes out.

ER had a 2 year wait, but it also had 25 million sales before the DLC launched while DD2 has a puny 3 million. It's not a big player base, so would they really put the effort into making such a big expansion when so few bought the base game? If it's mostly cut content then it could make sense I guess, which is always possible if they have unused enemies etc.

>>714284869
*depart lol

>>714283596
>Here's my breakdown of the bestiaries
>Oh btw I didn't count dozens of enemies because I have arbitrary rules I'm going to follow so that I can set out to prove the conclusion I intended to prove rather than simply follow evidence
>At the time of making the list he hasn't even gotten to Battahl
LOL
M
A
O

>>714273309 (OP)
I too sometimes overdose on the copium my guy

>>714285337
why wouldn’t it be true? DD2 was a financial success for Capcom after all.

>>714283745
I dont think anyone can say the game didnt sell, the problem is that it was dissapointing despite this. The game definatley feels like its missing swathes of things you expect to be there. The second half of the game is practically non existant, Battahl and the volcanic region seem like complete wastes of time in terms of development, like they got to that section of developing the game and run out of time and had to just wrap up, but it took away from developing something more concise.

>>714273309 (OP)
It's dead bro let it go.

>>714285452
Capcom obviously does not care, they said that statement in the heat of the moment at the height of sales.

>>714283596
>>714285118
That guys post is wrong, in reality DD2 has about 20 unique enemy types and 60 including variants, which is BARELY above vanilla DD1. So he's wrong, but the enemy count is still objectively shit for a $70 game and far lower than what other recent RPGs offer.

>>714285480
>well the game did sell well but it was disappointing because *shit faggot opinions*
ok faggot we heard you but still having a blast.

>>714284592
Oh wait, you're right. DD2 has 10 vocations (including Warfarer) and DD1 only has 9.

>Yes, you're an ignorant retard who didn't realize DD:DA was the "GotY Edition" and doesn't represent the baseline DD experience.
That's just a huge cope on your part. As far as I can tell, CAPCOM isn't going to spend another dime on this franchise. Them teasing absolutely nothing and Itsuno retiring means that half-baked shitshow they released last year is the final legacy of Dragon's Dogma.

>>714285587
>other recent RPGs offer
other recent RPG enemies don't have as much behaviors and attacks as DD enemies.
but yeah DD2 lacks enemy variety for sure.

>>714285587
>which is BARELY above vanilla DD1
Correct. But it is above DD1. So the claim is invalid and people should shift to

>I want more enemies
not
>The old one had more


>That's just a huge cope on your part
No it's just a simple fact. I don't expect every new sequal to be better than it's predecessor with DLC included. That's dogshit retard logic for toddlers. Within 3 or 4 sequels you'd end up with ballooned scope so bad that calling the budget "AAAA" would be euphemistic.

COPIUM BROS

>>714285587
>which is BARELY above vanilla DD1
Correct. But it is above DD1. So the claim is invalid and people should shift to

>I want more enemies
not
>The old one had more

It proves the hate is mostly perception, rooted in bias and not reality.


>>714285708
>That's just a huge cope on your part
No it's just a simple fact. I don't expect every new sequal to be better than it's predecessor with DLC included. That's dogshit retard logic for toddlers. Within 3 or 4 sequels you'd end up with ballooned scope so bad that calling the budget "AAAA" would be euphemistic.

>>714285648
Youre not dissapointed with the regression of customization and that they didnt learn to add difficulty options and not use static spawns like its still a 360 era game? I like the game but some of the stuff they lifted directly from DD1 were not good things, they were things that shouldve been imporved rather than treated as features of the franchise.
>walk everywhere
>static spawns
>major complaint of the first game is it was too easy
>make this game easier
>people want more classes
>add clown classes that are useless
>people want more end game content
>remove all end game content entirely
Simple things could make this game better.

>>714286210
Every class is useful

>>714285480
>mfw spending a ton of gold to buy that fancy house in Battahl
>it's completely fucking pointless and actually inconvenient to use for sleep
At this point, the DLC might as well be a massive overhaul patch kek.

>>714273309 (OP)
stop doing copium
get some help

>>714273309 (OP)
one can dream

>>714274574
It really is. People are assblasted for non-gameplay reasons about a game that is largely more fun than previous entries because they're recidivists that can't accept change. They also out themselves for not understanding basic game design principles, failing to recognize restructuring of player power. There's even parallels where performance improving in major post-release patches aren't being talked about, and there was a huge stink about microtransactions that don't affect the way any sane person will play the game whatsoever. It's a great comparison honestly.

>we could've had Deep Down, a well developed DD2 and a return to form for MH with under water combat and everything
>instead we have this DD2, MH Wilds and Pragmata
How can a company like Capcom fuck up this badly?

>>714273309 (OP)
This was somewhat believalbe until the co-op part. There's no way that would ever happen and they'd have to add in such a framework to the game that would require a complete overhaul. God I wish this was even slightly true though.

>>714287781
It wouldn't take an overhaul at all.

You do realize DMC5 has a co-op level right? They'd just have to polish and port that feature over [it would be easy, that's why RE Engine exists, sharing assets across projects with low cost and low effort]

>>714285480
I was actually really enjoying the game right up until you hit that point where the game just decides "shit, were out of time, time to wrap up" and it all just starts to end and you realize there is no more content, youve seen literally everything, and yet half the fuck fucking map is still not cleared. Stuff like the hidden thieves village, finding the elf village and the paths to the forgotten battleground was all rad as fuck discovering and just playing through, same with the all the side quests there was, they were very well done, like how you can rebuild a small village and keep coming back to it to have more interactions, and none of it is marked on the map, that was all great and promising. Then when you hit battahl for content the game just chokes out and theres almost nothing there, all that sort of design philosophy from the previous area is completely abandoned and theres nothing now. I dont even think there is anything but the class quests on the volcanic island and Battahl only has like 3 quests.
>put Nidia on the cover
>shes not relevant at all to anything and you speak to her like 3 times
Wheres the rest of the game man, if the rest of the game was like the first half it wouldve been pretty good. It just hits a point where you feel like youre half way through the game and thats actually when it decides its time to just finish it.

>>714286894
>New Game is a paid dlc option
>"no sane person is complaining about this, you just don't understand game design"
kys

>>714273309 (OP)
Literally nobody outside of /v/ ever cared about this game

>>714285994
Anon, are you being retarded on purpose or something? CAPCOM didn't realize DD1 needed BBI until after BBI was released and suddenly their game became more popular. After that, they marketed expansion along with the base game because they needed people to know that it's not the same shitty game anymore-- it's the better version that everyone likes.

It's not like BBI came out AFTER Dragon's Dogma 2. CAPCOM would have to be genuinely retarded to think anyone would want to play, let alone *BUY* a game that they themselves expect to be shitty without DLC. No one bought DD2 expecting it to remind them of how shitty DD1 was before BBI lmao. Except maybe you, I guess.

>>714288089
And people who literally did not play the game making things up. That's every game on /v/, though. Stay mad, retard, the adults are having fun.

>>714288325
>I'm a retard who doesn't know how to set expectations and am a fake fan of DD to boot
Jesus anon, just close the tab

>>714288174
its a very niche series.

>>714288056
this
I thought people were fucking around or just speed ran the game when people were saying they beat the game under 12 hours because I was enjoying all the content the first half of the game had
I was taking it slow and enjoying the side quests
then you get to the desert and it’s like you just hopped onto a slide that takes you to the end of the game
it was jarring how different the desert felt in design, even the end game where you’re trying to stop everything from being consumed by the Brine felt more content heavy than the desert

>>714273309 (OP)
My wife is shy.

>>714288712
>people who played DD:DA and loved it aren't *real* fans
Being a Dragon's Dogma elitist doesn't make your shitty opinions any more valid, anon. I'm sure CAPCOM is glad that reasonable consumers like yourself don't get upset when they release obviously rushed disappointments that they never plan on improving.

Now that Dragon's Dogma fucking died and the funeral pyre ashes have settled it is time to admit that pawns are a failed relic of the past that have no place in a game that could simply just have normal Coop, especially when said pawns are not any smarter than they were 7 years ago

>>714289378
It is crazy how good the lighting and shadows look in DD2 and MH:Wilds.

>>714289895
I've always thought pawns were a really cool idea. Them being really hard to train (or I guess really easy to fuck up) is something that I found to be appealing.

The pawns in DD2 felt a LOT more useful, but also like they were operating with a lot of guardrails. You had to treat your pawn in DD1 like a legit pet if you wanted it to be genuinely competent.

>>714289925
Say what you will about RE Engine, but it looks damn good.

>>714290682
The fact that you could not fucking order fighter pawns to do the launchpad on command and instead had to pray for them to actually understand they need to do it was already egregious

>>714273309 (OP)
THIS TIME FOR SURE FELLOW ARISENS!

>>714273309 (OP)
did they ever fix the retarded performance issues that were in the game from tying every single NPC's movements to the CPU?

It's impressive how in a game with like 70+ monsters the ONLY decent fights were the drakes cause they didin't melt in 4 microseconds the first time you meet them

>>714290951
it should have been her game

>>714290832
Yeah stuff like that really sucks about pawns.

>>714290951
Remember how there were supposed to be many other special monsters like the sphinx
I fucking remember.

this game gives me so many weird boners all the time.

>>714292507
your weird

>>714274574
>newfag trying to revise history again

>>714289925
It really is.

>>714295098
>the pawns going crazy around anon doing the "demo walk™" running and lotting stuff.

I love those goofballs, Dogma is such a soulful pair of games.

anyone pretending that trickster & warfarer are worthy of being called vocations is knowingly lying to themselves and everyone else. Trickster is a joke at best, and warfarer is the equivalent of tapping > or < in souls to switch from daggers to an ultra greatsword, it's a "vocation" in name only.

And both are made worse by the fact that if you're playing the game as intended, then by the time you get them there's very little "game" left and there's no NG+ scaling. It would be better if all 3 of the battahl vocations were moved to vermund so you can get them earlier without unnaturally rushing to battahl.

And while you're at it, give me back my Mystic Knight so I can LARP a holy paladin again instead of this tryhard mystic spearhand it's actually pretty cool, just want MK back and nothing beats a classic holy paladin aesthetic

>>714296372
>mkfag being retarded

post ignored

>>714297105
>no argument

shitty "vocation" defender ignored

What the point of leaking? You can't even get personal clout, as you obviously would want to avoid being identified as the leaker. I just don't get it. Is it just about knowing something other people don't know, and then just NEEDING to let someone else know that you know what they don't know?

>>714293237
Are you implying MGSV wasn't a huge disappointment, one of the biggest in decades?

I wanna put my peepee in the Sphinx

>>714273309 (OP)
I'll take some of your copium tanks anon.

>>714273309 (OP)
FUUUUUUUUUCK yea!!! so hyped.

You tried this bait already

>>714273309 (OP)
I believe him yo
https://youtu.be/CYk2nA-Suzs

>>714278998
>tfw fan of LP, DD, and MH.
This sucks.x2mdr

>>714283596
>Citing reddit
You fucking retard, never do that shit again.

>>714273309 (OP)
I know this is fake because there are dummied out DLC/cut content doors all over the map and you don't mention them. You can even noclip past some of them and there are half-finished dungeon layouts inside.

This game was such a waste.

>>714273309 (OP)
so we still can't mount the Sphinx? It's nothing.

>>714301759
take your meds

>>714301908
SPHINX SEX

>>714283602
>MH had them since rise
nigga Rise was the last game why the fuck you bringing that up like it's important information when it's a recent entry

no-one asked for or wanted AI companions

>>714273309 (OP)
DONT FUCK WITH ME

>>714273309 (OP)
who gives a shit

>>714303613
me

>>714303613
me too

>>714303613
Me.

>>714301932
what did he mean by this?

>>714303613
hey I care quiet a bit

>>714273309 (OP)
That is some fantastic news, OP. Been waiting for this.

>>714301908
only if you're unworthy

>>714273309 (OP)
Wasn't this game like so painfully average that people didn't really even care enough to shitpost about it?

>>714273309 (OP)
>huge expansion for bad game
OMG, CAN'T WAIT YOU GUYS

>>714273309 (OP)
remember the sticky?
so yeah, uhm... THAT happened.

>co-op only in DLC dungeon
Why can't the fucking Nips do co-op correctly?

>>714301932
they're really there

>>714273309 (OP)
lmao such a blatant lie. dd2 is dead, capcom will not redeem it in anyway since they like to fail and lose money.

Guys if it was a lie he would have said Adds layered armor it's real

>>714303613
me.

>>714310559
?

>>714311045
why wasn't something like this the game cover, instead of the "we want the dark souls audience, even if the game isn't like dark souls at all" one?

>>714273505
Meh people said the same thing about DD 1, it took a literal decade for DD 1 to get popular after its released after a few memes that you romance a loli.

>>714311047
>GAME JOURNALISTS ARE DOGSHIT UNTIL THEY FIT MY NARRATIVE
kek

>>714273309 (OP)
any word on the release date? Itsuno probably wont have a hand in it but I am sure the rest of Capcom will show respect to his legacy.

>>714274756
>I enjoyed Punk Duck's video on this game. Maybe his magnus oppus
like fuck I'm gonna watch this shit for almost an hour

>>714273309 (OP)
>dongma
>COOP
Try putting in some effort next time.

nice. when they remove denuvo in 8 months it should be in a pretty good state.

>>714277083
There wasn't a leak last year.

>>714273309 (OP)
Bro... let it go already

>>714312030
Who are you quoting?

>>714273309 (OP)
I want to believe.

>>714273309 (OP)
k, keep me posted.

>>714318809
>he missed the quests
ngmi

>>714296372

The problem I have with mystic spearhand is that a lot of its cool abilities don't work on the big bosses and the problem I have with trickster is some of it's abilities are so essential to how it fights that they'd never realistically not be in your skill-list, which is an extension of an overall issue with skill quantity limitations.

>>714296372
>if you're playing the game as intended,
then you're playing as a warrior

>>714311283
It took a decade for DD1 to get popular, not for DD1 to get good, dumbasss.
no one cares if its popular, they care if it's good

>>714311283
I liked DD1 because I bought it for $5

>>714319967
dont worry anon, you’ll come around to having a blast with DD2 once your favorite fagtuber claims it as “le hidden gem no one played” in half a decade from now.
I’ll save this post to prove that I, have always been a true blaster and not some secondary mindless drone like you.

>>714273309 (OP)
Why do you have to lie like this and get my hopes up.

Itsuno was everything that was wrong with DD desu, so with him gone it's only upwards. DA and DDO weren't by him so that's why they were good.

>>714273505
FPBP

I see this and I go peak medieval European inspired fantasy aesthetics, what about you?

>>714313149
It's cute you imply you have anything better to do with your life for an hour. Also, do people not have games to play that let them listen to stuff in the background?

>>714320628
hey everyone look at this secondary.

>>714320332
>check out TheShillHunter video the post is about
>they removed every single negative comment
sick of paidfaggot shills so much

>>714320628
>human
[x] - doubt

>>714273309 (OP)
I liked the design of the Sphinx, truly creepy. Shame about the voice though,

>>714320996
you should see the tranny temper tantrum meltdown he did on Twitch when people mildly criticized the game, he was a full living embodiment of the "shut up and consume product" meme. Hope someone has that VOD

>>714273309 (OP)
if i can't have sex with sphinx i don't care

>>714273505
Everyone knows it's part 2 that determines if Dragons Dogma is good.

>>714303613
me, anon, I care...

the problem with dd2 was they went quantity over quality. the world felt much more bland than ddda, and I believe that is because there was more of it. I remember all the areas of ddda, whereas dd2 is just to much of the same stuff before you get to new stuff. large open worlds are no fun of you have to actually clear the whole thing looking for your quests and collectible coins.

>>714273309 (OP)
god let it be real I miss my cat

I will never, EVER get hyped for another game ever again. Holy fuck DD2 was such a letdown.

>>714273309 (OP)
As much as I love this idea, Crapcom will never do it.