Just pirate the game lmao
There, I solved this "issue"

>just commit a felony bro
glowfaggot thread

>>714299153 (OP)
Go ahead and play pirated nfs 2015

>>714299153 (OP)
>pirate game
>still requires centralised server to function
>pirated game is just as nonfunctional as genuine copy you paid for
gg, no re

even as a pirate you should sign this shit

>>714300032
wait, you can't?
I thought every game (except denuvocucked ones, but who wants to play them anyway) was pirateable in 2025

>>714300245
eh... give me an example
if this does not go through, what game would I not be able to enjoy?

>>714300316
Nope. You can't play it. You have to buy the game and there is no other way to play it. It's not the only game that is like this. I can make a bigger list for you if you want

>>714300316
you're such a dumb nigger you don't even understand what this shit is about
just shut your dumbfuck mouth

>>714300430
>I can make a bigger list for you if you want
Sure, NFS 2015 isn't in high demand anyway

>>714300505
ok I checked, it's an online game, not a big loss

>>714300716
ok I checked, you're a dumb nigger who just wants to inject themself into conversations they don't understand
why? I guess you're the loneliest man in the world.

>>714299153 (OP)
> pirate always online game

>>714300413
every game that will release in the future dependent on calling back to the dev/publishers servers in order to function

companies do this so after a game stops being profitable they can pull the plug, so their new product no longer has to compete with their old stock

basically, every single game with these types of systems implemented made in the future
but any changes in law will probably not apply retroactively

here's a WIP wiki some people volunteered to gather games on but it isn't really in a good state yet
the main problem is preventing more damage in the future

>>714300536
True. Same as anthem or temtem.
Assassin's Creed games are somewhat broken
you cannot reach 100% completion, and you don't get many features because servers are dead and nobody gives a fuck about making pirated ones. Even when servers aren't dead, for example black flag, The kenway fleet doesn't work for 5 years or so because ubisoft fucked something up with a worthless update and broke it.
You basically cannot pirate online modes in EA games while it's possible with basically any other game without denuvo (excluding fucking temtem)

>look it up
>it's just crying about online games
>file preservation
>pirate and emulate it all

>>714300026
copyright infringement is not a felony

>>714301552
if the centralised server can't be emulated, (wich the devs/publishers never share)
you are not able to emulate and pirate them

i can still play unreal tournament 2004 even though the game isn't for sale anywhere and epic no longer cares

games with the aformentioned style of dependency on centralised servers this campaign is all about, this isn't possible

I just found a loophole

>Sell game with lots of bullshit promises
>Rake in $$$
>Drag it out for a year
>Put the $$$ in safe bonds or 4% yield
>Oops sorry we can't delivar because we're OP and no you can't keep the game we'll KILL IT and refund you
>**Without interest
>Made money off of the interest and killed a game
>Feelsgoodman.jpg

>>714301972
It's safer dealing with commodities.

Is he right?

Sure, OP!
Let me know where I can pirate The Crew. I really would love to play it again!

>>714302169
>imagine giving a fuck about The Crew

>>714301972
that's just a normal scam, you're far from the first guy to think of it

why, my peanus weenus of course :)

hahah! :D

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahah

Reason why game companies stop killing games - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahah!

>>714302290
Imagine trying to shift the goalpost like a retard while also not understanding how to use meme arrows. Where can I pirate The Crew?

>>714302169
>The Crew
why do you expect online games to continue functioning indefinitely?

>>714299153 (OP)
Shalom!

>>714301762
unless you're in a shithole like japan

leto's cabal has arrived with their retarded strawman arguments again

>>714300026
downloading is not a crime in my country althoughbeit

>>714302723
Exactly. We expect products that are sold to people to work as products and not services.
You don't want to host the servers no more ? We will host our own.
Nigger.

>>714302723
It's mainly a single player game so yes.

>>714302723
Yes.

>>714299153 (OP)
>Initiative passes
>Pirate software stream cuts off just as it passes the required numbers
>One week passes, Ross stand before the EU commission wielding a large axe
>He announces that there was a hidden binding cypher in the initiative
decoded it states "Ross Scott shall BEHEAD one sacrifice of his choosing for the gaming gods to be sated in exchange for unlimited server works."
>Black bagged person dumped out from doorway
>Its Jason
>Pleading for his life (in his real, high pitched voice), while Ross looks on with a scowl.
>Ross whispers into his ear
>"What do you want me to do"
>Jason silent closes his eyes and takes a deep breath before being cleaved in two, with one majestic swing. All of parliaments knees give out, forcing them to kneel.
>Gaming is saved.

>>714302290
>can't see the obvious slippery slope
Can you pirate Diablo 4?

>>714302895
>We will host our own
sure you will you poorfaggot lmfao
>>714302946
then pirate it?

>>714303227
>then pirate it?
The game doesn't exist anymore you troglodyte. That's the fucking issue.

>all the talk about how it's not gonna do anything last thread
Lol it's afraid

>>714302829
here's the thread on KF /threads/unrealskybox-leto-unicodefag.128989/

thread's a little funny because it seems like the sharty is mad at him too now, not understanding that he's one of them

it is pointless to make actual argument against /v/edditors, this is an echo chamber of retards and grown men permanently stuck at age of a 13yo kids that do not actually even play or care about games much at all, they only care about trends and drama

>>714299153 (OP)
Guys this is a nothing burger, it's slowing down already, only 115137 sigantures so far today, well never make it at this rate

>>714303348
why?
it wasn't popular enough to have anyone crack it?

>>714303180
>"What do you want me to do"

>>714300413
https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
These are the games that will, or already have been axed by publishers. The initiative is only targeting games made after it passes though. Making it retroactive would be ideal but you have to pick your battles on this kind of shit apparently. But the bigger franchises listed here will have entries in the future, and would be protected under whatever law comes to pass from SKG

>>714299153 (OP)
yeah dude like just pirate the MMOs and the always online games like dude why don't people just do this dude? are they dumb dude?!?!

>>714303589
you do not get it bro, piracy le does not work because some irrelevant piece of shit game nobody even cared enough to copy game data of and i will never play in my life or think about except when to use in this argument :)

>>714303646
that's just a list of goyslop haha
games that people care about will get preserved, dw about it

>130k left
>we got 116k today alone
>it's still 2 hours till midnight
T O M M O R O W

>>714300026
>>714299153 (OP)
doesn't matter, publisher will copyright infringement your server and you're gone. stop killing games will prevent this

>>714299153 (OP)
but this will kill Steam, so that's great.
Sign the petition, kill all Steamies.

>>714299153 (OP)
You can't pirate a service. This movement won't lead to anything.

>>714303646
I mean who's gonna be in charge of reviving a dead game with a defunct studio for example?

>>714304019
>stop killing
will kill indies, you retarded mong

>>714304003
you know that no eci has ever resulted in a law right?
politicians aren't going to think twice about passing a law to "save le videogames"

>>714303708
ive been doing this exact same thing for longer than you have been living likely, been playing wow on pirate servers for decades

>>714303979
I'm going to worry about it and I'm going to make it your problem.

>>714300413
Any game that requires a central server to play.
If you pirate that shit all you can do is boot up the launcher.

>>714304265
great, let us kill Steam.

>>714300026
mutt moment

>>714304197
which ones you shitslurping faggot retard?

>>714304398
Steam would be unaffected.
The law only comes into effect when support is dropped.

>>714304493
all indies that include multiplayer servers
>sell 5 copies
>NOOOO, YOU NEED TO KEEP SERVER UP FOREVER

>>714304398
holy shit! steam would have to include an executable that you can launch without steam up!
this will kill steam!

>>714304197
are you pirate software? lol

>>714304571
which ones? what are their names? you dumb nigger
>>714304398
Steam games work offline and you have no penis

>>714304541
games rented on Steam REQUIRE the central Steam-slop server.
Therefore this will destroy Steam, which is the only good thing I can think of.
>the law
lmao, you think they will pass a law, better: a law exactly how you want it LMAO

If they pass anything but gas, it will be a law that protects big corporations and fucks over indies, just like Steam.

Gotta love the opposition to the dark and terrible future where you as the consumer might potentially own the games you buy and play them indefintely. It truly is such a terrible thing to do give the consumer such power.

>>714304201
>ignores the multiple times where it has

>>714300026
do amerisharts REALLY???

>>714304201
don't talk about shit you have no clue about you retard

>>714304657
>fuck indies
kys

>>714303839
>irrelevant piece of shit game
>made by Ubisoft
>got 2 sequels
>the series is among their top 10 highest earning franchises
lmao the cope

>>714304728
>REQUIRE the central Steam-slop server.
No they don't you dickless faggot tranny.

>>714304824
how will it affect indies, little snowflake?

>>714304571
most indies use peer to peer connection you retard

>>714304679
>offline
no, they don't.
stop lying Steamie.
for example at random it will request internet servers. when the game crashes it will request internet servers, when there is an update it will request internet servers etc.

just a small little indie mom and pop central server live service game please understand

>>714304730
I don't mind the law going through, it's just redundant to sweat yourself over something so inconsequential as "not playing some age old boomer slop till the end of time"

>>714304857
okay, give Valve money and then download the game WITHOUT THEIR SLOP DRM client.
Go on.

>>714304942
why are you making this shit up? I literally used steam offline a few days ago while travelling. just kill yourself you absolute human mulligan

>>714304728
>Therefore this will destroy Steam, which is the only good thing I can think of.
It won't because the law doesn't apply to games that are supported and are playable.
Not to mention steam could just remove that DRM anyway if they were to shut down.
It changes literally nothing with Steam apart from the fact that Steam may decide to not allow every random central server connected game to be sold there.

>>714300026
you wouldn't copy and duplicate a car while leaving the original intact would you?

>>714304735
>>714304805

>>714304919
Match making servers are also servers, retard.

>>714305034
If I bought a game from steam why would I download it from a different place? That makes no sense. But if steam goes offline (like it does every Tuesday) I can still play my games

>>714304942

>>714305046
stop lying, Steatroon.
>i was traveling a few days ago
no, you didn't. stop lying.

>antisteam baiting retard has returned

>>714299153 (OP)
>Download a brick bro

What is the point being made here exactly?

>>714305049
>because the law doesn't apply
link to that law, you retarded mongoloid.
>Steam will remove all DRM
LMAO
they are not your friends, plus they can't, plus THEY themselves pushed for their DRM and additional DRM like Denuvo on top.
You think they would remove it?
They could already allow direct downloads via browser, but they want their spyware installed everywhere.
You can't even filter for so called DRM free games.

Gabe laughs at retards like you. He thinks you are stupid cattle.

>>714299153 (OP)
This is protecting the same type of normalfag that wouldn't know if a game is always online before buying. They wouldn't know how to pirate, even if that was a viable solution.

>>714305232
why don't you just open steam and look at the offline mode yourself instead of cutting your dick off in anger while the whole thread laughs at you?

>>714305153
t. ESL ChatGPT

>>714305360
I wrote exactly what happens when you actually use that slop, you retarded moron. It doesn't work.

>>714305360
this retard did the same string of retarded bait yesterday, ignore him

>>714305315
>what are private servers

>>714305314
These threads are a reminder that we do not hate trannies and furries enough.

>>714305441
wow what a retarded sperg. sorry about your brain condition bro

Pasta bros, we were ahead... how the FUCK did we get beat by Slovakia?

>>714305472
>just give us all your source code bro

>>714305584
not even remotely close to the same thing but actually, yeah they should make the source code public if a game shuts down. better than burning it like the library of Alexandria

>>714305559
>lies
>doubles down
>no arguments
anyone who actually tried to use Steam slop "offline" for weeks or months, knows that it doesn't actually work. But trannies like yourself use it to lie.
Similar to "game sharing", which is in reality "account sharing" and you get booted as soon as "your friend" plays anything, which is completely retarded.

>>714303180
Jason would not go silent. His last words would be
>b-but my dad worked at Blizzard

>>714299153 (OP)
He literally answered this a year ago:
>Piracy will save us
https://youtu.be/VIqyvquTEVU?t=246

>>714305584
Well if they close down the game forever, they're not using that code anymore. Why not let people put it to use?

So is this the official shitskin list of the EU?

>>714305345
>link to that law, you retarded mongoloid.
Read the initiative, it's not my problem if you can't read.
>they are not your friends, plus they can't, plus THEY themselves pushed for their DRM and additional DRM like Denuvo on top.
And it doesn't matter until they decide to cut support, same with other DRM.
I usually buy from GoG when I can because I am concerned about it but this and that are mostly unrelated issues except when the end of life shit is considered, and only then will the law that the initiative is trying to instate apply.

>>714305674
>yeah they should make the source code public
hahaha
kys, commie

>>714300026
You are such a fucking pussy. I bet you think the fbi will kick your door down after a pathetic letter from your ISP.

>>714304197
i can't even think of the last indie game i played that used dedicated servers with no options to host games yourself
almost all MP indies include server-hosting tools or are P2P in the first place

>>714305746
>Turks and Slavs
Yes.

>>714299153 (OP)
>87%
It's fucking beautiful man

>>714305741
>they're not using that code anymore
I see you are not a software developer.
>every developer writes every game from scratch
lolol

>>714305808
Copyright law is already anti-capitalism, it's a state enforced monopoly

>>714305134
Peer to peer connections do not use servers you fucking troglodyte. Have you ever played an online game with your friends in your life?

>>714305770
>And it doesn't matter until they decide to cut support
lmao, you have no clue how companies work, you retarded fool.
plus if bankruptcy is a way out of that, then exactly that will get used.

>>714305874
Yeah, that is such a niche case.
I can name literally one and it wasn't even a game I was interested in, it was a game a friend demanded I try.
>>714305808
Libertarianism is as kike controlled as Marxism is. All big Libertarian thinkers are kikes themselves or were tutored by them.

>>714305983
>you have the right to your own work
>that's that's a monopoly
found another commie retard

>>714306050
>plus if bankruptcy is a way out of that, then exactly that will get used.
It would be pretty funny if every online game made a new publisher just to file for bankruptcy at the end of service

>>714306050
>lmao, you have no clue how companies work, you retarded fool.
Yeah I do. They will comply as they have complied with all other laws that they have been forced to.
>plus if bankruptcy is a way out of that, then exactly that will get used.
No they won't do that for many reasons, first of which being it is obvious fraud

>>714306029
brainlet, tell me how the clients find another, you dumb fuck Do they search through all available IP addresses, or is it *gulp* a central match making server?

>>714306170
for corporations that's not a problem, and it would make sense
they already hire developer studios and then close them down after a few games.

Of course for indies that's fatal, because they don't have 100 lawyer scum on the payroll.

>>714306237
Depends on the game

>>714306237
QuakeLive uses a community matchmaking server. That's all that needs to be supported. The dev doesn't even have to run it themself

I cannot wait for Thor to be btfo
I genuinely don't understand his motive for going against the movement (Other than being a genuine retard who has 0 reading comprehension)

>>714306136
why can't you just compete in the market naturally? if you made it first then surely you'll be making it the best
that's usually the case anyway, the ones who get in early on something are the biggest success cases (coke, microsoft, ford, etc)
why do you need the government to step in and tell businesses that they're not allowed to make something just because somebody else did it first?

>>714306236
>No they won't do that
who? the corporations? lol
or your EU commies? lol

>>714306237
come back when you played more than 5 indie games on steam

>>714306391
>That's all that needs to be supported.
>play Fortnite using peer to peer
lmao
>just rewrite dedicated server games to peer2peer
brainlet

>>714306412
>why can't you just compete in the market naturally?
Libertarianism assumes that the best product will automatically win when historically this is untrue.

>>714304728
>it will be a law that protects big corporations and fucks over indies
That's what you/your kind said about refunds too. Strange that indie devs, who typically produce standalone games without server dependencies, seem to be doing better than ever.

>>714306557
So you're saying that when Fortnite shuts down and you lose all your Peter Griffin skins, that's a good thing?

>>714306412
>why can't you just compete in the market naturally?

>be me
>be indie
>work 5 years to create superb game
>sorry, no copyright
>so on one side 10/10 PCiggers steal your game legally
>and on the other side Valve sells your game and grabs all profits also legally
you are a retard.

>>714306431
>who? the corporations? lol
Yes

>>714306464
>on Steam
I'm not a filthy subscriber lol

I'm surprised there are people on /v/ that don't support Stop Killing Games. I guess there will always be boot lickers.

>>714306774
It's not that people want it to fail, there's just no point

>>714306682
sounds like you should have made a better game
maybe you should pull yourself up by your bootstraps next time instead of expecting daddy government to come save you

>>714304571
no the devs release server binaries for the players to use
they don't have to keep the servers up themselves, that's the players responsibility

>>714306680
fun fact: Fortnite only exists because PCiggers are PCiggers

>>714306690
I will tell you a secret, underage
Parcel delivery companies do exactly that. They outsource the delivery boys to sub-companies, so they can pay them like shit and treat them like shit and the big parcel delivery corpo officially has nothing to do with it.
that's reality.

>>714306851
>pull yourself up by your bootstraps
that's physically impossible you mongoloid

>>714306774
95% are just shitposters, 4% are giga-contrarians and 1% are pro-SKG pot-stirrers trying to keep discussion going

>>714303979
Some niggas care about The Crew, and it won't stop it from getting bricked. "It's not games I care about" only get you to the point where the practice becomes so prevalent (because let's be real, from a business perspective, having a game require a centralized server is great: it's antipiracy, easy patching, data gathering, all bundled in one feature) that it impacts the games YOU care about.

>>714306850
>it's not that I want to be butt fucked but why bother saying no?

STOP THE COUNT

>>714306774
I'm surprised there are people on /v/ that support Steam. I guess there will always be boot lickers.

>>714306772
makes sense why you'd have an uninformed opinion

>>714306969
>it's antipiracy,
welp, now I don't support SKG

>>714306949
uh oh stinky, non-american detected, opinion discarded
maybe don't talk about commies when you're living in a commie country

>>714307039
*signs the petition*

>>714306895
>just give us proprietary code
fuck you commie

>>714304398
In a perfect world.

>>714306774
Mostly is bad actors and hyper capitalist ideologues mad that strict worship of capitalism isn't rational and is putting the cart before the horse. No economic theory should be applied 100% of the time because that always leads to inflexibility, both Capitalists and Marxists are too retarded to understand that and society yo-yos between the two because they are sadly the biggest voices in society.
>>714306946
What does this have to do with anything? Parcel deliveries are based on manual labor so any cost to get the package to the destination as cheaply and fast as possible is considered acceptable.
Preserving a game/product is an all or nothing issue and you can easily track down the people responsible.

>>714304201
Oh oh oh, put that in the "YOU ARE HERE" chart!

>>714307059
I didn't buy The Crew on Steam.

>>714304119
If I'm buying a service, then I'm buying a service for a specified duration. If the outcome of this campaign is that EA is forced to advertise "Rent Battlefield 1488 for X years, for 79€", then it'd already be a success, albeit a weak one.

>>714306851
>PCiggers don't steal everything
they do.
and Valve already grabs the mots from indies because they can. They would grab 100% if they could.

>>714307090
holy illiterate

>>714306774
It's a contrarian board.
Anything that makes sense is brigaded against

>>714303646
>listing f2p games
They don't owe you shit
>listing mobile slop
No one gives a shit
>"AT RISK" designation for tons of games that aren't actually at risk
This might be the most disingenuous shit I've ever seen

>>714303381
one thing i love about these threads is the butthurt and fear from corpo shills and their eternal goalpost moving

>>714307270
What do you expect from these bad faith faggots?

>>714307073
>you have to get fucked in the ass and bleed from your anus to know that ass fucking is bad for you
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>>714307284
Why do you discord shills keep replying to your own posts?

>>714307259
if you made a better game then people would be willing to pay for it
or are you going to keep falling back on daddy government to save you, commie?

>>714306136
Copyright doesn't protect work, it protects ideas and concepts, which it's human nature throughout history to borrow and build on.

Did Dante violate the copyright of whoever wrote the bible?

>>714307153
most games are in a few popular game engines, like 90%+ of games can have their proprietary code read anyway, the only difference is now you can read the server-side code too
you still own the rights to the code, you just can't stop players from playing the game, you can sue if anyone is monetizing it instead of providing it for free

>>714307361
it's almost like that's why this initiative exists
to stop the ass fucking altogether

>>714307201
>creating a game is just typing on a keyboard for 5 years
>that's something completely different

>track down people
and then what, commie? you want to murder them too, fucking psycho

>>714306774
I dont like shills spamming my board with e-celeb gossip and shit that doesnt matter.

>>714307478
The wannabe janny is here. Keep applying, champ!

>>714307214
good, so it's a non issue.

>>714307404
>would be willing to pay for it
BS, PCiggers steal literally everything.
anything except Denuvo games, because they can't.
That's where all the games as a service and online DRM comes from.

I say kill all PCiggers.

NINTENDO DO SOMETHING

>>714307478
>stop killing video games doesn't matter
>on the video game board
begone, shill

>>714307478
I don't like shartyfags spamming my board with the same frog picture for 15 fucking years but here we are

>>714307478
if you don't like it leave
this is a videogame board
a potentially very important videogame initiative is on-topic

your frognigger image isn't

>>714307448
But it won't ban Steam, so it doesn't solve anything.

>>714307570
then it sounds like you've got your solution: privately-owned DRM that will rape performance and keep your IP safe
so do you really need daddy government to enforce copyright for you?

>>714307450
>and then what, commie? you want to murder them too, fucking psycho
Force them to fulfill their obligation?
Libertarians are all for doing this when there are unpaid debts, why exactly is it an issue for the other way around when the government is acting on behalf of a consumer?

>>714307679
i dont play steam
i play games that i get from steam

>>714304197
god I wish, petition to kill indie games when?

>>714299153 (OP)
Thank you for volunteering to supply cracks for every game being released moving forward, OP. So gracious!

>>714307668
commie activists are off-topic in here

If you hate gacha games don't sign this petition.

>>714307570
What does Steam have to do with anything?

The Crew is unplayable on every platform. Even on console. Where Gamestop is still selling copies. Furthermore, it was sold on Ubisoft own launcher on PC, and it's offline there as well. Steam is irrelevant.

>>714307478
/stop killing games/i
/stopkillinggames/i
/SKG/i
there, just removed 90% of the threads for you

>>714303180
>Pleading for his life (in his real, high pitched voice)
kek

>>714307697
>privately owned DRM
>no copyright
choose one, retard.

>>714300026
TOTAL AMERIMUTT DEATH

>>714307758
you're welcome :)
here's my site: www dot fitgirl-repacks dot com

>>714307295
>They don't owe you shit
Yes they do. The digital purchases you make in f2ps are still purchases. They are digital goods and the same rules are going to apply.

>>714303979
Yeah yeah it's real cool that you don't care about anything
>>714304168
As long as the dev has an EoL plan for the game (which is all the initiative asks) then they should be able to implement it if they go out of business. If shortsighted devs or publishers don't plan for that it's on them.
>>714307295
>they don't owe you shit
Not a good reason to have no EoL plan or offline support
>no one gives a shit
"I don't care" =/= "no one cares"
>This might be the most disingenuous shit I've ever seen
It's not as well explained as it should be, but if you used your brain for five seconds it makes sense in context. "At risk" means the game has no stated EoL plan or offline mode, and will be rendered unplayable the moment the publisher decides to axe it. Jason isn't sending his best, is he?

>>714307786
>Where Gamestop is still selling copies.
Is Gamestop Ubislop?
>it doesn't work
I don't care.
>Steam with its invasive online DRM is irrelevant
ban Steam
Steam literally blocks you from using your devices and thus in long term also destroys games.

>>714307875
I'm not seeing The Crew here. For some reason I can't find Overwatch either.

>>714307478
>videogames board
>crucial videogame industry matter is unrelated
Invest in some rope and ask chatgpt how to tie a noose

>>714307478
Based

E-celebs is not vidya related

>>714307949
Sorry, I only crack good games haha :3

>>714307854
why? DRM is just anti-piracy software or files to check in with a central server, people are always trying (and failing) to crack games that use it
it's a much better solution than the big government commie shit you're supporting

You will keep seething until bump limit lol

>>714304201
All the ECIs that passed the 1mil threshold have actually resulted in either new laws or improved enforcement of the existing ones.
As for SKG - the EU Commission has actually ALREADY adopted part of their ECI in their recent guidance on purchase of virtual currency and digital content, considering of 7 core principles where principle 6 is reserved to ban terms of contract that allow publishers to unilaterally take aways access to purchased content.

The EU is already onboard with this.
They are already working on it.
The ECI passing would serve to dramatically ACCELERATE it; but regardless of it passing or not, the train has left the station and it is picking up steam.
It is only a matter now of how quickly it will pick up steam, and at what exact speed it will ram into the walls the industry will try to erect to fortify their position.

>>714308026
>no copyright
>everyone is legally allowed to steal everything
>but software will still be made because I say so
>effective DRM will still be made because I say so
you are mentally retarded

it's like allowing everyone to steal literally everything and then being surprised that literally all stores close down, going
>you should have offered better products durrrr

This is actually happening holy shit, moldman did it.
The reckoning is happening and its going to be glorious. After the precedent is set with videogames it's only a matter of time this happens for all software and hardware.

>>714308009
Do you think this anon will be able to put two and two together?

>200 post in 1h30
it's over we lost /v/

>>714308094
You already lied in the first few words

>>714308009
So then where is Overwatch?

>>714308184
It's a handful of discord shills spamming

>>714308161
>>no copyright
>>everyone is legally allowed to steal everything
Just say you are using it to train ai. That now allows you to steal whatever you want.

>>714308164
>the commie EU will be glorious
lmao
yeah, they surely protected the citizens from the mask and vaccine Nazis, oh wait they are the corrupt mask + vaccine Nazis

>>714303646
>No player base
Oh yes, this will be a terrible loss for mankind

>>714304627
>Valve has literally promised since day one that if Steam is under threat of going under, they would release something capable of keeping games that depend on Steamworks APIs tied to an active Steam infrastructure, working. Or would release something that would patch out the server dependency.

Yeah- this won't affect Valve in the slightest.
They are actually probably one of the sole companies that have consistently advocated a proper EOL plan.

>>714308234
Overwatch is shit, try again.

>>714300889
I'm that strange creature. It was delicious.

>>714307764
>initiative to strengthen consumer property rights
>communism
there are no individual property rights under communism, you retard

>>714307934
I'm just saying that there's good reason to chase something practical over something ideal like making the policy retroactive.

>>714308026
>unchecked corporate control of the shit we buy is better than government regulation
Americans actually think this. I gotta apologize on behalf of my retarded countrymen

>>714308161
>>but software will still be made because I say so
>>effective DRM will still be made because I say so
yeah? why wouldn't it? if anything DRM would be even beefier since there would be no laws preventing piracy so developers would be far more incentivized to put effort into protecting it themselves
you think just because laws don't exist that people are just going to roll over and let people steal their work? no, they'll just enrich a private company via DRM fees (as god intended) instead of paying taxes to the government to protect them (commie shit)

>>714308373
>a proper EOL plan.
>hello mr. judge?
>yeah, I got this screenshot signed with "Steam staff"
>yeah, no source, but it says there is a plan
>mr. judge, hello?
>hello?
>I got this screenshot, that's basically a contract like the SUBSCRIBER AGREEMENT I agreed to, which says the opposite
Steamies are mentally ill.

lmao Maldy Fagtree is so ass blasted he's spamming his diaperfur

>>714308447
>strengthen consumer property rights
>property
>Steam
>can't sell any game
>can only refund for 2 hours, and if you refund too much you get banned
>strengthen
lol

>>714307478
Then why don't you leave? Pay with your time (wallet), it's effective anyways right?

>>714308536
It's honestly really funny how the people against the initiative are CP-posting gore-spamming furry faggots.

>>714303646
good luck getting fucking koreans and chinks to play along with this retarded faggotry
>bing chink you BETTER do as I say or else...
they will just not release their games in the west, simple as

>>714308496
>yeah? why wouldn't it?
Your goal is Africa, where everyone steals everything.
>but they will still work for nothing in return
LMAO

>>714305345
>plus THEY themselves pushed for their DRM and additional DRM like Denuvo on top.
Valve's developer documentation literally states Steamworks is not to be counted on as DRM, and only serves as a basic ownership check for legitimate customers not actively endeavouring to pirate. They state they will never actively support hard DRM, because it goes against their philosophy that you counter piracy more effectively by simply giving a better service than the pirated game, and DRM actively harms that philosophy by making the service more shitty. They literally tell developers and publishers that if they still want to persist in adding additional DRM, they will have to do so via third-parties, and that though Steam won't block it - they also don't condone or actively support it.

>>714308687
>these are the """common sense""" sane Libertarians
Joke Jewish ideology

>>714308687
Point to where CP and gore is in this room.

>>714308820
you want to save it that badly? check previous threads

>>714306393
>I genuinely don't understand his motive for going against the movement
He has a side-gig working for a publisher that is actively involved in bringing to market live-service games.

That proprietary code shit is such a bullshit argument.

>Buy a table
>The screws have a proprietary patent
>The screws get rusted and fall
>Want to buy new screws? fuck you, they're proprietary

Hopefully this initiative changes this bullshit practice, or at least forces developers to look for other solutions other thah MUH PROPRIETARY CODE

fuck off ferretfucker

>>714308094
>All the ECIs that passed the 1mil threshold have actually resulted in either new laws or improved enforcement of the existing ones.
was wondering how this works, feels good man

>>714299153 (OP)
>just pirate the game retard
>big company still requires you use their servers

>>714308740
>They state they will never actively support hard DRM
So Denuvo, which they recommend, isn't hard DRM then, lmao

Also stop lying, freak.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/drm

The Steam wrapper can and should be used in combination with other DRM solutions.
>should be used with other DRM solutions like Denuvo


>no, no, their DRM doesn't count
if it wouldn't, why not allow direct downloads via web browser?

>>714308820
You really want that CP huh?

>>714308891
>it's somewhere else
meds

leto lost
lole

>>714308820
>>714309021

so this is the step up from the cp posting. instead of trying to get the thread deleted they try to drive anons away instead with diaper ponies

>>714309061
the gore is above your post now.
only a matter of time, pedo, get excited!

>>714309075
>I posted that myself
not falling for your shit.

>>714299153 (OP)
Pirate mag and play it, lets see you do it retard.

>>714308893
Oh, I thought he just had a twitch fanbase and a failing indie game

the concerted effort to drown out this video game discussion is the creepiest shit I've ever seen on this board

>>714309164
>I just posted it, do I get a cookie now
meds
nice false flag

THE FAGGOTS ARE AFRAID

DON'T LET UP

KEEP SIGNING BROS

JASON DIDN'T STOP US
CP DIDN'T STOP US
GAY PORN DIDN'T STOP US
PONIES SURE AS SHIT AREN'T GONNA STOP US

>>714308198
All the ECI results are public and searchable on the EU's online portal for ECIs.
So you should easily be able to produce evidence with a hard link to show it isn't doctored, right?
In short: Proof or GTFO.

>>714309174
>>714309305
>the gore poster doesn't exist
>okay it exists but it's actually you
literal dementia lmao

>>714309319
it allows fake IDs, sign with fake IDs.

>>714309319
NOOO
STOP SIGNING SAR
STOP SIGNING RAIT NAO

the fact that these people just happen to have a collection of diaper pony porn tells a lot about them

>>714309280
Hey check out this initiative to make it so developers are required to leave the game you played with in a playable state
>autists on /v/ fight tooth and nail to shit on it

>>714309451
Their whole goal is to destroy discussion through any means, typical Jewish tactic.

>>714309458
>fucks over indies
yeah, I think this is anti-indies and evil.

Nothing will happen

>>714300316
You have to pirate their servers as well

>>714309458
At first I figured it was corporate shillbots but the gore and furfag shit makes me think it's legitimate mentally ill people
I hope they get help one day

>>714309486
it is just like /pol/ has been saying for the last few years. drown out the content anons care about and turn the board into something unappealing to make people stop frequenting it

>>714309546
Yeah, all those indie live-service games with no end of life plan, those guys are getting totally screwed

>>714309280
It's absolutely insane how they can go full SHUT IT DOWN mass coordinated spam/slide tactic on a thread, and then the next one they start pulling the "nobody cares about this" "you're not actually going to achieve anything" demoralization shit as if they didn't just admit that they're obviously SCARED AS FUCK.

Just goes to show how scummy these fuckers are, they have zero qualms about causing as much chaos as possible all so that they can save a few cents on their bottom line.

You don't hate publishers enough.

>>714309546
>indies will have to not shit up their game with DRM or release their server hosting software when they drop support for the game
oh no, indies are done for

Do (You)r part. For vidya.

>>714308963
Same page:
>The Steam DRM wrapper is an important part of Steam platform because it verifies game ownership and ensures that Steamworks features work properly by launching Steam before launching the game.
>
> The Steam DRM wrapper by itself is not an anti-piracy solution. The Steam DRM wrapper protects against extremely casual piracy (i.e. copying all game files to another computer) and has some obfuscation, but it is easily removed by a motivated attacker.
>
> We suggest enhancing the value of legitimate copies of your game by using Steamworks features which won't work on non-legitimate copies (e.g. online multiplayer, achievements, leaderboards, trading cards, etc.).

>>714309486
Streisand effect, every overly emotional bait post and "consensus cracker" post where they try to ape the language here without context gives me more satisfaction. It's afraid.

>>714309663
>indie has multiplayer
>YOUUU NEED TO SUPPORT IT FOREVER
>indie is already broke thanks to the 30% Valve tax
>indie is now bankrupt
>all games go offline
anti-gaming, this is

a hit dog will holler

Reminder that dev companies are botting the numbers to de-legitimize the initiative. Don't get your hopes up on raw numbers alone.

DO NOT FOLLOW THE PATH OF THE SERPENT: >>714309412

THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM FOR NON-EUROS AS SOLDIERS IN THE MOLD MAN'S MEME ARMY

LET NOT THE TEMPTATION OF FORGERY SWAY YOU FROM THE PATH BROTHER, OUR VICTORY SHALL NOT BE FALSE AND FLEETING BUT JUST AND EVERLASTING

>>714309821
Epic fanfic bro

>>714309647
That is the tactic, yeah. It only works in smaller fringe communities though, or ones they can control, 4chan will never die so long as people come here for their hobbies unless mods decide to ban most speech.

>>714309750
The steam wrapper CAN and *SHOULD* be used in comination with OTHER DRMs.

therefore fact 1 (your lie)
>Valve considers their DRM, DRM
therefore fact 2 (your lie)
>Valve recommends not just using their DRM, but also LOCK IN plus ADDITIONAL DRM like Denuvo on top

>>714309829
You mean you fags tried botting and got caught, retard

>>714309821
Are you legitimately retarded?
literally all they have to do is release their server hosting software

>>714309943
that shit won't get caught until the verification phase

>>714309892
"The median lifetime earnings for indie games on Steam are quite low, with many games earning less than $4,000"

Stop lying, Steamie

>>714299153 (OP)
Everyone on about SKG but what about SKGM, Stop Killing Games Music. I wanna jam out to soundtracks more than I wanna play games these days. Let the music play.

>>714299153 (OP)
>taking for granted for crackers to remove not just the usual DRM fare like Denuvo or Steam
>but also to make a single-player game that connects to a central server for gameplay information that really shouldn't be online not need to connect to a central server
Besides, isn't it communism to expect crackers to do that shit for free for you?

>>714299153 (OP)
Reminder these discord shills are using bots to spam here

>>714309973
>use 3rd party software
>YOU JUST NEED TO RELEASE THIS AND BREAK YOUR NDA and also break copyright
>gets sued
>even more bankrupt
you must be retarded.

>>714309821
all games relying on servers already have local versions for development purposes. you need that to, you know, develop the game

>>714310029
>DUDE think of all those poor starving indie devs making ALWAYS ONLINE games!

>>714309829
>Reminder that dev companies are botting the numbers to de-legitimize the initiative.
Which would be funny. The EU actually monitors their systems for abuse and if they find a disproportionate high number of rejected votes due to identify fraud, they will start digging. If they find a connection to certain services-for-hire they are going to launch investigations and if they find ties to the actual industry, then the industry is going to find itself cooked.

>>714310131
>Fortnite has a local version that works without any server connections
LMAO
you have zero clue how game development works

>>714304265
That's not what piracy means. If it's not cracked so it can be run independently from any developer influence then it's not pirated. Yes, you can claim that you downloaded the encrypted game installer but if it doesn't work then you basically did nothing.

>>714309821
The e-celebs don't want you to talk about that

>>714310182
>DUDE, VALVE FORCING EVERY GAME INTO AN ALWAYS ONLINE GAME IS LE GOOD GUYS

>>714307370
who?

>>714309941
>Still hasn't rejected that they recommend against adding DRM and instead recommend adding value-added services to make pirated copies less valuable.
Concession accepted.

>>714309821
>Games go back to kino server browsers
fuck yeah

>>714309829
>>714310183
>devs get a bunch of third-worlders to sign in order to delegitimize the campaign
>Euro governments are forbidden from questioning whether Pajeet Krishnakata is an ethic German name
>petition passes with no scrutiny

>>714299153 (OP)
>just get virues bro

kys

>>714310130
Why are you getting angry about an unrealistic fantasy scenario that you made up?

>>714310234
not without server connections. to develop everything related to server connections they need to be able to run
multiple instances of either a dummy server or a local server for development and testing

>>714310417
>Euro governments are forbidden from questioning whether Pajeet Krishnakata is an ethic German name
They are, however, not forbidden from looking at IP addresses.

>>714310523
>"Why are you looking at IP addresses? That's pretty racist of you. Are you implying that these proud peaceful people aren't the True New Europeans?"

>>714310239
>Yes, you can claim that you downloaded the encrypted game installer but if it doesn't work then you basically did nothing.
There you go, this is the point I am making.

Stop the count!!

The context of this "Save Games" movement is really funny because it only relates to super shitty MMOs and shooters. I'm not against it but damn these people have extremely shit taste. Just imagine the neckbeards crying over their level grinding lootbox game getting shut down.

>>714310393
>they recommend against
t. ESL

it LITERALLY says *CAN* AND *SHOULD BE USED WITH MORE DRM ADDED

they are not only recommending their DRM, but also additional DRM on top. That's what these evil pricks are literally saying.
On top of the store lock in.

They are worse than Microsoft.

>>714310752
OH NO

i went to take a shower and it was on 87% after showering now it's on 88%
we're golden

>>714310841
>super shitty MMOs and shooters.
the game that started it was a racing game that you can play entirely single player
why are you so against people playing the games they bought?

>>714310752
>b-b-b-b-but

>you aren't allowed to kill games I own anymore
OK, everything is now a freemium title with all content besides the horrible basic bitch experience locked behind a battle / content pass that is streamed from our servers :)

>>714310505
>developers have no server in their LAN
lmao
>dummy server
>because that's how game development works, you don't really need any server

>>714310841
>"This problem doesn't affect games that I personally like"
>"But what if it did?"
>"I don't understand. I just told you that it doesn't."

>>714310841
We have to deter these nigger devs/suits from making worse shit in the future by putting the rules down now.

>>714311019
KEK

>>714310917
>bought
>Steam
choose one

>>714311003
>okay, we will turn literally everything into a subscription now, even officially, on Steam you are already not owning anything, but subscriptions
>NOOOO, NOT LIKE THIS
brahahaa

>>714310098
You are going to own your games and you are gonna like it.

>>714311121
>we
>big daddy goverment, yes you are corrupt, but you will help us with bing bing wahoo, right?

>>714299153 (OP)
can't pirate an online-only game, lil bro

>>714310917
>the game that started it was a racing game that you can play entirely single player
So what's the issue then?

>why are you so against people playing the games they bought?
I said I wasn't. It's just hard to sympathize with these people. It's like trying to support gambling addicts. Like yeah, I guess it's their choice to play the slot machine...

>daddy EU will make my boo-boo better
oof
this monkey's paw is going to be brutal if this goes anywhere

>>714299153 (OP)
keep botting we're doing it tonight bros

>>714311134
>choose one
I'll choose both.

>>714311241
You are the dumbest retard on Earth

>>714311004
usually they run an instance of the server on each workstation working on something requiring it. version control would be a real mess otherwise

>>714311136
you are gonna subscribe to everything and you will like it.

I hope these 1 million people will get leaked and murdered in the most brutal ways.

ross scott looks like a pedo

>>714311285
"buy" is redefined in the subscriber agreement, which you signed btw, as subscribing.

Why are all these losers crying so hard? Is somebody paying them?

>>714311320
that makes zero sense.

>everyone has their own server
>everyone changes their own server
>if we don't do that, we would run into a mess
??????????
>everyone has their own version of the game
>everyone changes only their own version
>it would be a mess if we did it in a non retarded way
???????????

>>714311241
The issue is they're retards who have no arguments

moldmob keep winning

>>714299153 (OP)
but wouldn´t that be .....

PIRATE SOFTWARE

>>714311503
what do you think version control is?

>>714307764
commie activists talking about vidya would still be videogames

this is about consumer rights
if that's communism, sounds good to me

>>714311406
EULA's get superceded by law and are worth nothing if unfair to customers

>>714311134
I bought a physical copy of The Crew and now I can't play it. What does Steam have to do with this?

>its cheap
>its easy
>its free
>its good for developers, actually
>its not a problem

>>714311406
The discord shills are not going to like this lel

>>714311019
Totally different because you aren't asking a silly nonsense hypothetical. You want to treat it like an inevitability and you want me to take up arms. Call me when it actually DOES happen.

>>714311502
most if not all of it is leto's cabal trying to kill the threads for unknown reasons

Ross lives in Poland and has a Polish wife, how can I possibly trust him?

>>714311581
version control: you check in your changes.
And then the game gets recompiled for everyone.
and then the server gets recompiled for everyone.
dumb
fuck

>>714302668
>Why wouldn't want to eat shit?
Ah, wakatta

>>714311589
>consumer rights
>EU
lmao
it's like rubbing a monkey paw

just don't buy online DRM slop, boycott Steam. There, I solved it for you.

>>714311684
you don't push that version without making sure it works on the current version, which you do exactly how?

>>714311769
I don't think you rub a monkey paw like it's a genie lamp

>its easy, just do it
>its cheap to do, I know better than you
>the eu says you have to
>it doesn't create any extra work
>just release the binaries

>>714311592
post photo with timestamp
otherwise nice larp
>INTERNET REQUIRED INTERNET REQUIRED
nice larp

>>714311806
since there are multiple people working on interconnected things

>>714311823
>nooo we don't want to work or support our products just keep giving me money!
post nose

>>714311806
>push that version
>making sure it works on the current version
???????????

>>714311592
>crying over 11 year old shovelware
do gamers really...?

>>714311334
You should start a petition for that if you want it so bad.

>>714302290
>appeal to triviality
cool argument bro

I got 8 people to sign it

>>714311823
>I HAVE TO MAKE GAMES UNPLAYABLE WHEN SUPPORT ENDS!!! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!?!?
No.

>>714311406
While this was always true it's worth noting that the disclaimer being clearly displayed like that only happened after skg hit the news a year back or so, they clearly know if this passes it's going to effect them personally.

>it isn't about intellectual property
>they did it in the 90's, so that means you can do it now
>I don't care about the enterprise network solution you pay $2000 a month for, just re-write the game to work on my home pc
>Software licenses aren't real anyways, the EU says so
>Why would I read that? It's illegal in the EU anyways

>>714311592
Doesn't really sit right to me to ask government to intervene because you couldn't read the neon sign telling you all you needed to know with "REQUIRES INTERNET."
Shouldn't have supported this garbage in the first place.

This is the all time high score to beat.

>There is less to go than we made today alone

>>714310752
Let me remind everyone that it was 49% like a week ago. Took 6 months to collect 490k votes and we will get another 510k within 10 days of Ross's video.
Complete Roach Defeat

140k end of day?

>>714312148
You wailing is unsightly. You fucking lost.

>>714312161
but I'm connected to the internet.
it doesn't say "REQUIRES US TO NOT TURN OFF THE GAME SERVER" and it's not a subscription service for them to discontinue

>>714312095
good job anon

>this won't create more work for you
>the EU isn't notorious for impenetrable bureaucracy, that's a myth
>compliance and QA for software sunsetting won't cost anything, don't make things up
>even if it did it would be cheap and we deserve it
>I don't care about your margins
>all software developers, especially game developers, are super rich corporations, so I hope you get hurt
>but it won't hurt, because its cheap and easy to just release the binaries
>also host the software so we can keep downloading it whenever we want, or you also have to give us ownership of the code so we can host it
>software licenses aren't real stop bitching

>>714311592
>know that the game is internet only
>know that the game has microtransactions
>buy it anyway
People really backing this "Ross" guy?

>>714312148
@grok who is this sister quoting?

>Guns cock
Kill games

>>714312319
that just means it will be invalidated for obvious botting

>>714299153 (OP)
>Just pirate the non-functional software

>>714312441
Okay, I'm connected to the internet and I want to play the game.

remember when games for windows live shut down a decade ago?
many publishers removed gfwl from their games (ie. dark souls) while some just let their games die

>>714312132
no, the disclaimer was added because there was a law passed IN THE US.
It has zero to do with this mentally ill petition.

>>714311678
>earns big youtube bucks
>went to a country developed enough to have all the necessary amenities and poor enough to have no niggers
Um, based?

>>714312390
It doesn't require internet for no reason, it requires internet because it's a live service game connected to servers, don't pretend to be retarded.
Shouldn't have supported this trash of making always online single player games. I remember when Diablo III had input lag in single player depending on how high your ping was. This is unacceptable. I only played it when it hit consoles because that was not the case there.
Supporting this kind of retarded bullshit and then begging the government to save you is just really ugly. That you need to pretend to be retarded to make yourself a victim makes it even worse.

>>714311406
>too stupid to read the fine print
>steam makes the print larger so you don't miss it
>proclaim that something changed suddenly

>>714312390
post timestamp and BACK OF THE BOX
>no, no it just requires internet for no reason
t. brainlet

>>714311769
I dunno man, "all phones need the same charger cable" went pretty great.

>>714299153 (OP)
I dont get why after 20 years of this shit gamers decided to wake up one day and attempt to have taste.

>>714311678
>nation with strong defense that hasn't been driven down over the decades.
>next to no niggers. threw incoming refugees back to belarus
>polish jank games
what's there not to love?

>>714311959
It's about principle. You wouldn't understand.

>>714312827
>muh shitphone

>>714312868
they wouldn't care unless somebody they hate was against it(roach prime), and thats a fact

>>714312148

>>714312868
they still keep on using Steam-slop.
they are retarded.

>NOOO I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL I CAN'T PROVE A POINT BY BOYCOTTING I NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO GET INVOLVED NOW SO I CAN HAVE MY GAME TIME

>>714312737
fallout 3 became unplayable without modding for almost a decade until it was patched for steam instead of gfwl

>>714312390
disingenuous horseshit, I hope a boatnigger murders you with a machete

>>714312737
I member

>>714312737
I'm glad they preserved Dark Souls instead of letting it die but goddamn the online with GFWL was so much better. Connectivity just worked. Wish the replacement wasn't so bad.

>>714312503
Sure it will be, anon. For sure.

>>714311769
a small intelligent minority boycotting does not work
using a governmental body that already exists to get some good things done instead of solely leaving that to lobbies actively trying to fuck you over is retarded

>>714311823
>its easy, just do it
I don't care if it's easy or not
>its cheap to do, I know better than you
I don't care how cheap it is, also not an argument
>the eu says you have to
would be based if true
>it doesn't create any extra work
it probably will, more effort than ACTIVELY and INTENTIONALLY creating your games to depend on servers the publishers and developers have to maintain THEMSELVES? I doubt it
>just release the binaries
based sure, whatever it takes
we have to go back to the old norms that videogames were sold under for years and therefore are still completely playable

>>714313101
fo3 was always unplayable

>>714312796
It's about truth in advertising. If I pay a subscription then I understand that it can and will end at some point. If I buy a game it should work.
If they want to start redefining some of these purchases as "one time subscriptions for 10 years" or whatever, then I will concede.
And I'm sure you love when the government saves you from my rapedick
I find your condescending to be much more unbecoming

>>714313089
good

>>714311823
THINK ABOUT THE POOR MULTI MILLIONAIRE COMPANIES!!!!

Just back up the games you buy on Steam to a secondary hdd, with cracks or whatever the game needs. We all know Steam will cease to exist at some point.
Multiplayer games? They're shit anyway

>>714313078
Steam is a great service, I think it's more retarded to not use it. But it is definitely a problem that a game you can easily get elsewhere deosn't really see any sales until the late Steam version is approved. This is just fucked up.

>>714313213
>be high IQ
>care about retarded NPCs

>government
>good things

Why are there so many publisher cock suckers on this board?

They are all literally pic related
<---

>Walmart now requires full body search? Brah just go somewhere else lol
>All stores now take blood and stool samples?
>dude just grow your own food, why are you concerned about it? lmao

Fucking drones.

Apologize.

>>714312958
>he doesn't remember the time before smartphones
you need to be 18 to post here

>>714311823
You will do it whether it's hard, expensive or even impossible or not.
Or you will go to jail.

>>714301762
Neither is illegal immigration

>>714313425
mama mia...

>>714313271
>EU will arrest Satanyahoo and Epstein passengers any minute now

>>714313425
New white™ country dropped

>>714313425
Took youse long enough

>>714313362
>great service
>locks you out
>forced invasive DRM
>forced spyware
>expensive lootboxes

>>714313425
>behind even romania
at least you got there in the end

>>714313425
molto bene

>>714313431
ChatGPT gets confused

>>714309458
I don't think the real posters seem to be that much in a disagreement even. It's literally some (hopefully) paid bot spamming against it and everyone taking the situation seriously being in favor of SKG.
The flood of new signatures doesn't lie. You need to identify with proper credentials to put your name there.

>>714313425
Congrats but you guys still have the lowest per capita. The percentage thing is easier with big countries and harder for the little ones.

>>714313468
>Italian
>White

furry roach trannyfucker faggot bros...i don't feel so good

>>714313425
finally

>>714313383
Americans.

Can't wait to see the Amerigolem corpos kneel to EVROPA.
Again.

>>714313680
I accept your concession

>>714311823
>It's like, so impossible, ignore that we used to do it
>It's expensive, I can't pay forever! How absurd!
>Regulations are evil because they just are okay!
>Think of all the work I would have to put in to keep my end of the deal
>I have to shut it down and make it unplayable or they wont buy the next badly put together product

>>714307017
>see a place called "Buttfuck House"
>enter it
>WOOOOOW how I supposed to know I was going to get buttfucked?
Just don't buy shit games (which is what every online only game is) and you won't have this problem.

>>714313771
I'm a burgerclap but I would sign if I could
good luck eurobros

>>714313425
Eeeeyyyy bada bing!

>>714313425

>>714313715
Unfortunately we are a very old country with an average age of 46.8

>>714313746

We're fucked. And I don't just mean the cocks we take every night. These fuckers are going to prevent game studios from rightfully taking away our licenses we didn't BUY.


REEEEEEE

LEAVE PUBLISHERS ALONE!!

>>714313771
hmm, i wonder who started this initiative...

>>714313839
>See a place called Buttfuck House
>pay to go inside
>sorry, the buttfuckers have left. You cannot get buttfucked here. No refunds.

>>714313896
>free speech
>Steam-slop
choose one

>>714299153 (OP)
You wouldn't download a car

>>714313918
Finland's average age is 44

>>714313562
A lot of visual novels are cheaper on Steam than directly from the devs, because they don't bother to implement regional pricing and Japan has some retarded game prices sometimes.
On Steam they have to go out of their way to not have regional pricing, and they don't because they don't mind supporting it, they just don't care enough to implement it themselves.
Easier payment processing makes a big difference too with some credit card companies deciding they don't want you to buy anime titty and blacklisting some websites.
It's a shame but it's still more often than not the most convenient way to get many games. I draw the line with "you literally can't buy it on Steam and you're still waiting for the Steam version? That's retarded."

>>714303180
Kek.

>>714313947
>our licenses
lmao

>10k left to 90%
They are going fast.

>>714299153 (OP)
>Previous thread has some butthurt American claiming they were for this but Europeans were against it
It's a fucking European petition you cheeseburger chomping retard.

>>714313958
Ross is pure of heart, soul and moss.
He's one of the rare good ones.

>>714300026
OP is probably just Brazilian

LESS THAN 4000 PER DAY

>>714313996
>implying

>>714314141
ross is benevolent mold like penicillin

>>714314063
>regional price locking le good

>89%

do we know where Ross' dad worked? because Jason's worked af Blizzard.

It's not like any customer wins anything by leaving loopholes open for corpo fuckery. why are people trying to sell it as the "freedom to get screwed over"?

this is thor when you don't sign the petition

I got 5 on petition being done by Sunday

The literal only thing I know about Finland is they like this anime a lot.

>>714314386
Hopeanuoli, my childhood...

>>714314359
It's not a law. It's an initiative to start the conversation on higher level with actual experts.
It's very well worded, the fewer objections the better. Even if it forces devs to just live you map to walk around it's a success. You can build on that.
Nigger.

>>714314386
is this like their version of warriorcats?

>>714314386
I think they really like coffee for some reason too

>>714314516
I think moreso even if EU is like fuck you or lax about the whole thing, it sends an adequate signal for the oldheads to further tune out. I've got 1500 steam games, I don't need one more that is actively trying to dick me

Please let Ross stand before EU parliament. It would be so so fucking funny

qrd on his name? is it jason or thor?

>>714314532
>bear gets shot in the head
>doesn't die
>goes crazy from the pain
>goes on a killing spree

>>714314386
its a classic

>>714314386
PLÄTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yg63oNDcGU

>>714314701
It's Jason. If you call him that he will also explode and I hope some youtuber does it.

>>714303646
>all this fucking slop i’d never want to play anyways including free gacha which this supposed law wouldn’t preserve anyways
>all this shit listed as fan preserved to pad the list
>all this shit listed “at risk” without actually being at risk

>>714314701
Jason "Thor" Hall. His middle name is possibly Thor, self identifying by the name Thor, middle or otherwise is gay thoughever.

>>714314701
No one is named Thor in real life.

>>714314770
early finnish youtube crap was kino

>>714313368
So your saying I can take the free stuff and avoid being fucked if I'm smart about it

playing games after their time with your friends is one of life's greatest joys tbqh. you're missing out if you've never gone back and played some shit like timesplitters

they don't want you to sign it

>>714314774
In what way are they not at risk? There is no stated contingency for "if servers go down" or "if we stop supporting this game". That's at risk

>>714313425
you blew the pineapple right off my pizza

>>714313425
Thank you pasta

>>714314785
he also self-identifies as the director of strategy for a shitty games publisher so he protects his paycheck from skg

>>714314774
Opinions of capeshit eaters matter a lot.

>>714314918
That started showing up once the bot reports became credible

>>714314785
His middle name is actually Thor, his dad is a huge nerd
It's incredibly cringe to make people call you that, regardless of what's written on your birth certificate

>>714314532
Kill Bill with a bear and dogs. It’s a brutal revenge story.

>>714313425
https://youtu.be/cyIYD4JDLfQ?si=42m7FNfy7paRkHZd
TOTAL
ITALIAN
REDEMPTION

>>714314683
>it sends an adequate signal for the oldheads to further tune out
Note that Ubi already said that they will implement offline mode to the other The Crew games. It's something.
Btw the Crew is a nothingburger tier game, what if something actually relevant like Diablo 2 or 3 died like that?

>>714314812
NUH UH THERES THAT LIFTER GUY WHO.....son of a bitch, I thought his name was Thor Hafthor bjornson. Hes also a fraud

>>714314386
NYT SAAT NÄHDÄ MIKSI MINUN NIMENI ON HOPEANUOLI
https://youtu.be/3RBqHDRW3-8?si=AYO0Zb2--ZVOBmxy

>>714314698
He won't, he's not an EU citizen and he's not formally in charge of the initiative. Officially the two guys in charge are Daniel Ondruska (Slovak) and Aleksej Vjalicin (Lithuanian) and a few other members from across Europe.

>>714315081
Its a nothingburger to you, but to someone else it's their favorite game, or the game that helped them cope with their dad dying or some other thing. Brass tacks its a game that was killed that didn't need to be

>>714315262
>missed out on moldman in a suit

>>714314918
enter your info manually

>>714302169
You can't pirate a service. You can't own a service. I hope your little movement was at least fun for you because it can't accomplish anything because it's not possible. What you will be getting , if anything, is an entirely different game than you purchased to begin with.

>>714312796
>it requires internet because it's a live service game connected to servers
Except there is no good reason for it to be a live service game when it's mostly a singleplayer game, obviously aside from the publishers wanting you to then buy the next game like a good goyim. If it was an MMORPG with a monthly subscription, sure, now you have an argument for both "it needs to connect to a central server" and "you don't have a reason to own the game and play it at anytime, you only have access to it for a month".

>>714299153 (OP)
source code should be free for all games

>>714313425

>>714314701
Gaming Judas.

>>714315382
I know, I didn't mean to shit on it, I just mean it's not culturally relevant, it's not really a BIG game y'know. So publishers may be like "woah such a big deal for such a small game? Better watch out"

>>714315529
>than you purchased
So we agree that I purchased and therefore legally own the game you are STEALING from me

>>714314701
Maldavius Figtree.

>>714315636
You can just live in China or Russia or N Korea if you want that, you know that right?

>>714313425
Erm... based?

>>714315519
no

>>714313368
>high IQ can't have a meme in a proper resolution
lmao
Libertarians have to be the most braindead people on the planet, though I suppose they share that with Marxists

>>714315545
Even in a case you mentioned: just release tools for private servers bruh.
Like imagine Mojang suddenly going "Now nobody can't play Minecraft, even on single player" in 2030. There's bajilion Minecraft private servers.

>>714315752
I agree to none of those. Point still stands even if the game was free. Try again.

>>714315917
But you said I purchased the game, your own argument isn't coherent

>>714314647
half the year for them is basically nighttime 24/7 because of the aurora borealis, it's obvious they like coffee because it keeps them awake during night season

>>714312796
>Supporting this kind of retarded bullshit and then begging the government to save you is just really ugly. That you need to pretend to be retarded to make yourself a victim makes it even worse.
the damage is already done
this has already become industry standard

so now this will actually will get shit done and improve the situation
you do want to improve the situation and prevent problems like this from being even more widespread in the future right?
right?

>>714313109
I don't care about it being deemed disingenuous or not, it's still a practice that is incredibly hostile to consumers that requires intervention or else companies will continue to sell their games like this more and more to make more money and not compete with old product that they already sold to you

there are insufficient laws that cover this to situation to prevent customers from getting fucked over
so we're asking for it

>>714313425
grazie mille

>>714316002
is this some US propaganda or what

>>714314925
>>714314978
>doesn’t outline if a game could or couldn’t be fan maintained and just throws it on the list to say LOOK LOOK THIS GAME COULD DIE ANY MINUTE

>>714315986
It is. The argument is coherant whether the game was purchased or free. Why did you even purchase the game instead of pirating it if your goal was to preserve the game and keep it forever?

>>714316128
trying to derail discussion with with european politics that has nothing to do with videogames

>>714316204
Opinions of pedophiles matter as much as capeshit eaters.

>>714316002
wtf i just voted again

>>714316095
uh oh the pirate software dickriders aren't going to like this post

Why not just not buy from developers that kill their own games?

>>714316316
try that

>>714316095
anon seemed to have forgotten to reply to this >>714313368 retarded phoneposting indian

>>714316289
uh oh meltie

>>714316316
why leave it up to the developer if they want to screw you or not?

>>714311823
>its easy, just do it
>its cheap to do, I know better than you
It is and I do.
>the eu says you have to
Should not have begun doing it.
>it doesn't create any extra work
2-3 minutes.
>just release the binaries
Yep.

>>714316092
>because of the aurora borealis

>>714316416
>At yesterday's rate, the goal will be reached in 4 days (by 7/6/2025)

>>714316316
i see it more as a way to stop normalfags from enshittifying video games

>>714316448
It is their product. They should be in power to do anything they want with it. If they decide to kill it then so be it, see who will buy a new game from them.

>>714316612
>enshittifying
You were born with autism.

>almost 140k votes today
HOLY FUARK

>>714316661
you will own nothing and you will be happy

>>714316686
not an argument

>>714316713
The browns have spoken

>>714316661
>They should be in power to do anything they want with it.
lol no

>139,975
didn't make it to 140k by the end of the day lmao

you have LOST

>>714316316
Because poor people don't have wallets to vote with so they want to brute force kill games they don't like. Like I get it, they're perpetually stuck in the late teen edgy joker phase. But they should at least admit they are anarchy freaks instead of le hekin lawful good palidin.

>>714316552
Look, I don't know WHY it happens, but I know it DOES happen.

>>714306952
What percentage are the actual corporate shills that get paid to post here?

>>714311823
Why did it work for decades before today? Why do single player games need always online DRM. Why must every game have external mandatory server connections? Why do you believe you can take away my property? The manufacturer that made the the ladder in my basement don't get to take it back because they can't keep manufacturing, and you don't get to take the video game I bought either.
It's not my problem. It isn't a retroactive initiative. Unfuck your future games.

>>714316661
We'll harm the million dollar corporation, mutt.
We'll hurt them. They bottom line won't go up as fast as it is now after this. They're gonna have to save for an extra week in order to buy another ferrari.
We'll win. Deal with it.

>>714316997
Less than the percent of libertfagians and ancaps being paid to shill here.

>>714316896
>if you want consumer rights you are poor and edgy anarchist joker teen

ok but why is Ross so ugly and why does he have a wife while I remain a virgin

>>714316901
The aurora borealis is a phenomenon that occurs when solar radiation hits the atmosphere. The reason it's night for six months near the Arctic circle is that the Earth rotates away from the Sun

>>714317069
do you go outside and have a job?

>>714317069
Because he’s a man of action unlike you. Women like proactive men

>>714316778
pablo, I....

>>714317017
Why indeed

>>714317061
>still can't be honest with his own personal beliefs
Grim.

>>714317069
because he looksmatched while you want a 10/10 asian wife

>>714317118
yes and yes

>>714317069
Just be yourself bro

>>714317069
He has a heart of gold and his wife is made out of moss.
>>714317158
>looksmatched
How ugly is she...?

>>714306952
55% pro-SKG and 45% anti-skg shills paid by Microsoft, sony

>>714317118
FUCK

>>714317208
>How ugly is she...?
idk I've never seen her, I just assumed he looksnatched

>>714316661
Why not just make it so they can't do that?

>>714306774
it's leto's cabal of schizos, pedos, and spammers

>>714317208
>moss
but won't his mold get jealous? stuck between moss and mold

>>714317318
They're one single moss, it's all the same.

>>714316896
Let's humor your take
what if a bunch of rich retards RUIN things for EVERYBODY.
So we make legislation to fix this stopping EVERYONE from being fucked over,
(mind you, INCLUDING these rich retards),

that would still be good right?
you're not a mindless corpo bootlicking dumbass actively trying to spread misinformation for things that benefit even yourself right?

(unless you're being paid to spread it or desperate for (you)'s, wich would be beneficial for you i guess)

>>714317171
do you have friends?

>>714317210
corporate psychophants would never promote anything pro-consumer, retard

>>714317520
yes but they are already married

I'm 39

>>714317069
ross is cute caveman ugly not unfuckable incel ugly

>>714317442
Does this hypothetical include The Crew? Because that's not how things went down with The Crew and you know this and still cried.
>you're not a mindless corpo bootlicking dumbass
Better than a mindless ancap anarcy hekin epic jokester trying and failing to grandstand on morality. I see right through you.

>>714317626

>>714317606
Damn I don't even know what events you could go to to meet women at that age
Maybe a painting class?

>>714317784
It won't happen again. Seethe about it, corponigger.

Binland quickly on their way to 400%.
Whitest country on earth.

i'm honestly confused about the high number of signatures per capita from finland. it hasn't been in any news and i haven't heard anyone even mention it and our zoomers don't seem like they would give a shit

>>714317898
I'm not the one tallying how much my ideology is seething, ancap shill. I'm just cackling watching you fail to collapse capitalism, again.