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How did they manage to create such a soulful game? It's like every color is in the right place.

>>714359886
and music was even better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4VjMquy8Lc

>>714359886
Different standards and sensibilities. A lot of stuff from that time that seemed bog standard then might look very different now in the perspective.

>>714359886
Yea it's all fucking puke colors. Like your soul.

Quick! There's no time to explain!
Post your very best HoMM memes!

>>714359886
>simple to start dificult to maser gameplay
>Fairy tale ascetic
>Neat music
>simple plot
Also not many games in that genre
Which is why Heroes 5 tried to emulate it. With various results

>>714359818 (OP)
>Home...
It's spelled HoMM retard

>>714360910
When is puke ever bright green? Short of drinking a kale smoothie and up chucking I don't get it

What do we think of Olden Era?

>>714361028
i have crossover art

>>714361175
will pirate and play for 2 weeks

>>714361175
i think its not out yet

Fuck yes OP was just thinking about pirating this masterpiece again. Is the campaign worth playing?

>>714361309
>Is the campaign worth playing?
Not OP but yes, the campaign is good and so are the scenarios.

Take me back

Tierlist purely based on how much I like the factions. Hopefully Bulwark will be better than Factory was, it feels like it was designed for the campaign's lore above all else. Having the mechanic able to repair machines yet the only new machines in this faction are a suicide drone and the tier 7 unit is a big waste.

>>714360079
>Battle start
>Enemy centaur captain turn
>Enemy centaur captain good morale
>Enemy centaur captain attack your tier 1/2 range creature
Would you accept this bullshit or turn back time?

>>714361175
the devs seem to be properly autistic when it comes to gameplay
but I don't like gorgons with anime girl faces, the unit designs are too close to 5 instead of 2/3/4
>>714362000
I used to like Rampart but right now I think it's boring as fuck. Dungeon and hitting a good dwelling is where it's at

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>>714361028
And this

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>>714360910
Reported for underage

>>714359886
It's actually bad and this is just nostalgia

>>714362987
Holy crippling autism

*finds angels and wins*

Ekhm...

I only play original HoMM III and not this disgusting Horny Abyss mod because I can't stand mod attempts at "balance" aka "no fun allowed, here is nerf to everything that was fun".

>>714362494
Dungeon feels great to play though I can't give it S tier because the dwelling gimmick is pure rng, without a way to relinquish dwellings you end up going months being offered random creatures from other factions you can't stack.

>>714362987
>Games have to be realistic
Just no

>>714363128
Based, I'm the same, I don't like "Balance" in video games, it usually means neutering and removing all fun.

>>714362987
>what are you milling
Your autism.

>>714363128
I just didn't like the new faction additions.

>>714361309
Yes. It's advisable to start with campaign. It introduces units gradually. Perfect introduction to factions units and gameplay. Start it, and you'll fall into it and end it when leaves start falling from the trees.

Tired of pretending homm5 isn't shit.

>>714363054
Just going to climb this observation tower that is small than i am right now

>>714363643
And what's bad about it?

>>714363671
Your fat ass isn't climbing anything

>>714363054
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>>714363621
I'm pretty sure he's just joking judging from the fountain criticism
Ancient Rome had fucking fountains

>>714363054
indeed...

>>714359818 (OP)
I have a HOMM3 mod for Civilization 3. It's so good it could hae easily been a retail release.

Comfy beyond imagination.

>>714361175
I'm cautiously excited. People in comments under their videos are weirdly cynical about designs and I'm not sure why, but I also liked how H5 units looked so perhaps that's on me. Ideally I'd want them to not try and make H3.5 but instead try something new that has H3 mechanics and "feel".

>>714363128
>>714363478
>"balance" aka "no fun allowed, here is nerf to everything that was fun".
You are retarded. They just buffed underpowered skills that noone used like eagle eye or most of the unit specializations, which are objectively good balance changes

That being said, I hate the new towns, which is the reason I don't play HotA much. If they can't design towns with the same quality and artistic consistency as the original ones then don't shoehorn them onto the game, you are dragging down the general quality of the game.

>>714363729
Loading times while waiting for the ai to take its turn.

>>714361219
I don't remember squires looking like that

soon we can go home, bres

>>714363729
Janky, looks like shit, barely works, awful UI, have to use a third party tool to find out skill progression.

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>>714364183
This picture is a perfect example of how graphical fidelity decreases visibility. I'm hoping that normal genned maps wont be so claustrophobic.

>>714359886
They didn't try to overcomplicate the designs.

Look at the shit that was HOMM5 and beyond. Every design is some World of Warcraft abomination with creatures having dozens of bling and wielding pink dildo swords. It would make more sense to hire those units only to kill them, and using the gems in their armor to pay for Dragons and Titans.

HOMM Old Era is having the same problem as well.

>>714359957
The author of the HOMM music looks like Vin Diesel. I'm not kidding. He's bald, completely jacked, and if you put him in front of a piano he plays fast and furious.

>>714359818 (OP)
>overrated autismcore with gamebreaking spells
>>714363729
>form-over-matter snoozefest
I'll pass, only peak for me please

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>>714361175
Looks like generic mobile game crap with typical modern game low contrast hard to distinguish visuals.

>>714361028

>>714362741
Flame Shield at least is decent (or at least very annoying), and Hypnotism can be useful.

But yeah, given how expensive the mage guild is, this is suicide tier.

>>714361219
>genshin enjoyers have a great taste in video games
Based

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>>714364654
Lmao

>>714364124
The pirate cove town actually did fit the HOMM art style (iirc they used monsters from Might & Magic or something?). Did they add other ones since?

>>714361175
All the previews so far show semi-static town screens, ie. a looping static video. This is an issue.
Heroes 5 had the best town screens, I wish they could go back to that. You could rotate it around in 3d and it had some great special effects for its time. Some of the towns did look silly, but the castle was fantastic.

>>714359886
>Prerendered backgrounds, prerendered animations, everything always looks exactly how they wanted it to

vs.

>3d engine that renders imagery on its own in realtime without complete supervision like in modern games

>>714362987
I dunno, I don't like coming back to things I'm nostalgic for because my memories of the thing are often better than the thing actually is, but HoMM3 I've been playing regularly for over 20 years and it's still as fun as ever

>>714364893
Based, "balance"-fags shown the door

>>714359886
>It's like every color is in the right place.
Game artists back then still pulled inspiration from reality instead of just using other art (pixel or not) as references.

>>714362987
This is a game board, it's not meant to have realistic scale or lighting, in fact later games trying to make it into an actual bird's eye view map completely miss the design point

3D BAD
2D GOOD
simple as.

>>714363950
it was a joke but people getting defensive about it is funny aswell

>>714359886
They hired actual generalist artists who were just commissioned to work on a video game. Not people who studied in college to become video game artists.

>>714359818 (OP)
Never played a M&M game before.
What is the best starting point?
Do I need to be slav?

>>714366780
fuck off, it's not for you

>>714366780
HOMM3 is generally considered the best, the previous games have a "prototype" feel to them compared to 3.

>>714366780
>What is the best starting point?
Heroes 3, 4 and 5 are good starting points but this also means that if you start with one of those, you may not enjoy others
Heroes 3 have this advantage of active community, especially mod community

>>714366873
I appreciate the sentiment and say shit like this
I'm thinking the game is for me

>>714361237
There's a playtest.

>>714367036
sexo

>Play HOMM3 first time
>"Ok cool lets pick up these items and resources, maybe recruit some troops"
>10 turns later enemy AI arrives at my fort and kill me with 10 dragons
>ALT+F4

>>714367187
Skill issue

>>714361175
Sex with chocolate sorceresses.

>>714367187
was this some kind of bullshit fuck you custom map?

>>714367357
Looks like a soulless mobile game ngl

>>714367406
How would you even make a turn-based strategy game without mobile game allegations in the current year?

>>714367472
artstyle?

>>714367472
>How would you even make a turn-based strategy game without mobile game allegations in the current year?
By not having that soulless garbage art direction. Jarring as fuck.

>>714367406
you cant escape that with homm. mobile games base themselves on better games. does this look familiar to you?

>>714366780
3 is the classic and not exactly balanced but definitely the most rounded and complete game. It has so many learning resources + active mp & comminity + active modding scene, so still has a lot going for it.

>>714361028

>>714359818 (OP)
>no live service
>game has had the same stale boring meta for 20 years
this game is peak example of why stop killing games is evil and needs to be stopped

I like Factory, it's goodTower.

Ahem
I want to FUCK naga queens
That’s all, have a good day

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>>714368201
>no retaliation
She won't let you cum even after she's finished

>>714361175
Unit models look bad visually, and so does the UI, but the devs do seem to know what they're doing, and they're working with the community, so I'm hopeful.
Though the game was supposed to release in Q2 already, and now it's delayed until an unspecified date, unfortunately.

>>714361028
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>>714359818 (OP)
*Homm

>>714368347
fucking hell this got me

>Play HOMM3 first time
>beat the main campaing
>"that was easy, let's see how good is the shadown of death campaings"
>can't get past the second Rampart map
I wasn't prepared for this spike in difficult.

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>>714361175
>What do we think of Olden Era?
I've actually played the early build on one event a few months ago, so I'm cautiously excited. IMO, it will never beat 3 in its atmosphere or 5 in its town screens, and I'm not too optimistic on the story, but the game itself is functional and they are clearly trying to do the best with their questionable budget. Then again, 7 was supposed to be "The best of" game and we know how that turned out in the end. Also, IIRC, some of their employees or associates were caught shilling on R*ddit, which certainly soured the game for me a bit.

>>714368201
>I want to FUCK naga queens
Very based. I personally love Medusas just a smidge more but Nagas are objectively superior choice.

>>714368996
Shadow of death is the easy campaign, armageddon's blade is the real difficulty spike

>>714359886
HoMM3 really gives me boomer vibes, like they took inspiration from what a 60 year old at the time would call fantasy aesthetics, the sound design wouldn't be out of place in a slot machine

>>714367187
skill issue.

>>714361175
3 babies hate it but i think it has potential. especially because they use actual old lore and comtent from mm8

>>714368540
This is so incredible.

>>714368996
I remember getting utterly destroyed in the second mission of every starting SoD campaign as a kid.
Then I replayed it at 23 and it wasn't that bad. The key point is you need to be playing aggressively, not just enter those fights your guaranteed to win with minimal losses.

>>714364183
Disgusting plastic-toy style.

>>714366780
play from might and magic 6 up to 8. if you feel brave 4 and 5 are also great

What game please no meme

>>714359818 (OP)
oh shit a homm3 thread
count me tf in
its been ages since ive played and im afraid to get back to it since im gonna suck so much ass because i forgot 90% of the mechanics and how to play

>>714369081
Honestly I never expect them to top HoMM3, even if it were somehow possible, I think some people are too jaded -and rightfully so in some areas- to acknowledge it if a better game were to actually come out.
The videos and their ability to listen to feedback makes me more optimistic than I thought I'd be and it's good to hear that actual people trying out the game comes away from it with an overall positive feeling.
>Also, IIRC, some of their employees or associates were caught shilling on R*ddit, which certainly soured the game for me a bit.
I personally don't care too much about it. I'm sure they are very passionate and it got the better of them or something.

>>714368201
BASED
But for me it's pixies.

>>714368350
Could be worse.

>>714369067
implying I'd want to pull out

>>714359818 (OP)
This game was to slavs what Dragon Ball was to hispanics and american blacks.

>>714369553
not saying it doesn't have potential, but Ubisoft fucked up every Heroes game so far, and this one has the same mobile game tier art style and the town screens seem to be prerecorded again.

>>714359818 (OP)
I can't get into HoMM3, no matter how often I've tried. The artstyle, monster designs, music and sound effects are so fucking bad compared to HoMM2.

>>714369919
Dogshit taste

>>714369721
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 or HoMM3 for short.

It became an instant cult classic especially in eastern and central europe.
If by some chance you'll like what you experience, you're boarding a train that will never let you go.
If someone were to argue that HoMM3 is among the best games of the entire history of video games, I could easily agree.

>>714359886
Reminder that Bonita Long-Hemsath, the long time key artist who also worked on Might & Magic RPGs, never worked in video games again after New World Computing closed.
Of other lead artists for HoMM3 and it's expansions, Joseph McGuffin who also was art director of HoMM4 is still in the industry and currently works as a creative director at Creative Assembly and Phelan Sykes went to work on Everquest and it's spin-offs but seems to have quit the industry in 2008.

>>714369081
>>714368201

>>714369226
>armageddon's blade is the real difficulty spike

>those missions in Dragon Slayer where you fight hundreds of bullshit dragons
>every single fight ends with me blinding the last remaining enemy stack and resurrecting my whole army
good times

>>714369919
Used to think the same when I was 10 and mom bought it mainly for herself. It grew on me after a while and the gameplay improvements are massive, though I'd still agree 2 looks better.

>>714364183
What is this, they remaking one of the earlier Heroes games?

>>714369767
>But for me it's pixies.
Based taste

>>714370437
Check out fheroes2 if you have not, it is engine rewrite for Heroes 2 that adds better quality of life and other sensibilities without messing with the balance and core experience.

https://ihhub.github.io/fheroes2/

>>714364654
>First Aid Elemental

>>714366780
HOMM 5's first base game campaign is absurdly simple and easy to learn from.

>>714361028

>>714370245
She looks like she fucks young wizard apprentices

Ahem

3 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 7

Is it true that you have to know how cheese the AI to minmax everything to beat the fan made campaings?

>>714371090
Depends on the mission

>>714371090
You have to play extremely optimised, I can think of at least 1 example in campaign and at least 2 of the new scenarios I've played where you need to know the exact maths of damage given/taken and splitting stacks in to exact numbers. It's pretty few and far between though and not particularly deterring.

>>714371090
Which ones anon? That's like asking
>Is it true that you have to know how everything in the game and its history to beat chess puzzles?
If you're asking specifics, like Horn of the Abyss for example, then no.

>>714369767
>I think some people are too jaded -and rightfully so in some areas- to acknowledge it if a better game were to actually come out
That's a fair point - I played 3 when I was maybe 8-9 so it's hard to remove the nostalgia from accessing the game objectively. I chatted with some older anons who played earlier HoMMs first and they say they prefer the gameplay mechanics and artstyle of those games over 3.
>pixies
Great pick if you're just looking at the spritework but aren't they... you know, small, lorewise?

>>714371090
>Is it true that you have to know how cheese the AI to minmax everything to beat the fan made campaings?
Depends on which one you're thinking of and what difficulty you're playing on but generally yes.

>>714371090
you have to do that even in some of the official campaigns

Why is Armageddons blade campaign dialog so lengthy? I liked how pithy the original was. The but the campaigns are much better in quality. Dragon slayer should be every gamers rite of passage

>>714371374
>I chatted with some older anons who played earlier HoMMs first and they say they prefer the gameplay mechanics and artstyle of those games over 3.
Yeah. It's not impossible to top that nostalgic feeling when combined with an otherwise fantastic game, but I think it is pretty damn hard.
>Great pick if you're just looking at the spritework but aren't they... you know, small, lorewise?
I guess? I think I've long headcanon'd them to be human size in H3 because of sprites and pixies in H5.

>>714362987
NPC post

>>714361175
I have no idea what that is.

>>714371362
Earlier HotA campaigns with Cove can be beat playing in the same way one would play SoD campaigns. Completing "Forged in Fire" on Impossible will require you to utilize the mechanics of the game to their fullest. Of course, "Forged in Fire" with all of its specific encounters isn't anywhere as insane as something like "Pathfinder" from what I understand.

>>714371374
>spritework

clopclop
clopclop
clopclop

>>714371374
>aren't they... you know, small, lorewise?
That is why they are melee units with no retaliation, it is supposed to simulate a horde of tiny faeries swarming and pestering units (hot in a way).

>>714359818 (OP)
A lot of HOMM(3) appeal would be completely ruined if released nowadays because minmaxing autism will optimize all the fun out of the game. We never realized how good we had it.

>>714372270
>swarm of pixies on your dick
imagine

>>714361028

>>714371090
There are some fan made maps which maximize autism (one wasted movement point and you are dead, you have to defeat armies with just 1 creature and 1 spell, etc). But those are few and far between.

the most cheese I know is shit like abusing blind + Clone + Ice Ring to lock down the enemy so the battle cannot end, then cloning your hundreds of Archangels and using Resurrection with the clones, then Ice Ring to kill the clones and repeat, until you've resurrected your 20000+ troop army. This wouldn't be feasible with the Resurrection spell, but with 500+ archangels and 1000+ mana, it's possible.

This happens rather frequently but mostly because they are completely linear XXL sized single player maps against 7 AI.

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>>714367642
Whats wrong with this artstyle? It looks almost exactly like homm5 and I haven't heard anyone call it a mobile game

Okay, okay.
We know nagas, pixies, succubi, dark elves and maybe even medusas are hot, but what about spiders?

>>714372460
>because minmaxing autism will optimize all the fun out of the game
I assume you're not familiar with Homm3's contemporary pro scene and/or competitive gameplay?
People literally count how much move points they have as well as every single ounce of HP their fucking imps or skelengtons have in battle and so on. It's turbo autistic and minmaxxed out of the wazoo

for me? its homm5 haven theme.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrp1hEtU0ys

>>714371374
>Arent they small lorewise?
And?

>>714371846
>picture

is that a pixie? Looks more like a Nymph to me

>>714371919
This is existential horror to me, the fact that normies are like this.

>>714373093
>but what about spiders?
I'm freaky enough to say yes, as long she doesn't sacrifice me to Asha.

>>714374314
>Looks more like a Nymph to me
That's because in classic mythological fantasy they would be. Maybe Dryads if we're being super autistic about it.
H5 just called them pixies for who knows what reason, possibly due to having pixies in previous games.

>>714367187
>play Homm 3 first time
>encounter few gold dragons on my way
>ask my friend if I should fight them with my pikemen and crossbowmen
>sure bro, your pikemen fill keep the dragons at range while the crowbowmen shoot them
>all my men die in turn 1, killed by five dragons
Granted I was 11 at the time but I got bamboozled pretty hard

>>714374591
Fair enough

>>714373093
I'd smash and you're gay if you would not as well.

>>714359818 (OP)
дoм*

>>714373135
>contemporary pro scene and/or competitive gameplay
That's the autismo scene, you can safely ignore those fuckers.

>>714376330
so then if the game came out today you could also ignore all the autists that would allegedly minmax the fuck out of this game.

I wish homm5 had as good map generator as homm3 has
that's my main problem with 5, lack of maps to play

>>714378739
I always thought that 3's map generator overuses portals. Still, it absolutely has played a part in giving the game an infinite lifespan.

>hota factory campaign
Unironically the best homm3 campaign by far

homm3 and homm4 are the two games I ALWAYS have installed on my PC at all times
literally all the way from me being a child in the 2000s to now being a manchild, I still play those two here and there

>>714378984
I didn't feel like it, now VCMI does that as it doesn't have a limit on number of portals and will reuse portal models to further confuse you

>>714378984
This, portals should be rare and impactful, not dime a dozen making the navigation a confusing mess.

>>714378739
>lack of maps to play
I agree with the generator thing, but come on
https://www.maps4heroes.com/heroes5/maps.php
there's over 900 fan maps for HoMM5

>>714379152
> Not speed running them since you are already re-playing them like autists.
Hmm?

>>714379989
Speedrunning bad and gay
Comfyplaying is superior

>>714379893
but how many of them are "normal"? no story thing, no tryhard puzzles

>>714374463
same
its scary with how many retards we share oxygen with

>>714364039
keep talking anon that sounds cool, love me some civ3

post moar homm3 artwork, love the older high fantasy style. always loved the og warcraft style and preferred warcraft's choices when it came to typical fantasy tropes/races/designs/etc but I'm trying to expand my horizons when it comes to high fantasy.

>>714379080
It's the best campaign at the expense of the faction in regular gameplay. What was supposed to be a factory faction ends up with a mishmash of animals and cowboys because the campaign demanded there be a civil war.

>>714364039
What's the mod called?

>>714384175
Fuck you steampunk wild west is a severely underused trope and factory is peak kino because of it

>>714384175
it could have been forge...

>>714384429
I'm fine with the wild wild west aesthetic. It's the armadillos, worms and Coatls taking up half the line up I take issue with.

>>714362987
>might and magic doesn't have the technology for water pumps

>>714363729
Style turned way too warcraft.

>>714366780
>a M&M game
That's not what the thread is about. It's a Heroes thread, they're very different games.

>>714384856
No worse than the mess that's Cove or Tower

>>714369919
It would have worked much better style-wise if it was set on a different world instead of just a different continent. But I never had this problem at this severity. III is easy on the eyes and the music is still pretty good.

>>714385775
cove has just 2 nonhuman units and all perfectly fit thematically

>>714372460
As long as you don't play MP with anyone who isn't already your friend you'll be fine. Which, unsurprisingly, is still true with other LAN games.

>>714386074
>pirate faction
>two pirate units
>one random witch unit
>one water elemental unit
>one discount dragon unit
>one lizardman unit
>one snake unit
Four out of three are nonhuman and one of the human units aren't even a pirate

>>714386517
oh yeah I somehow forgot half of the rooster haha

>>714378831
Sorceress has bullshit OP start. Especially if the dwarves join.

>>714387154
she is not playable

>>714387583
Figures. I no longer remember the non-campaign maps. Didn't like them much due to time limits. I can win time limit maps just fine, just don't like them.
That's still a very unbalanced start. Worse than the purple's even. And wizard (blue) is straight up fucked unless he's allied with others. Still would probably be dead weight.

>>714387832
think only green, blue and orange are playable? I only remember green

>>714384429
we couldve had forge but hota team had to sniff their own farts like all modding teams that get a crumb of success and butchered it into this abomination

>>714388587
Good fucking riddance forge always looked like shit.

>>714386517
its not a human pirate faction retard, its like saying rampart is an elf faction. they did a good job compared to factory

>>714388806
Alright so where are the nonhuman pirates in the pirate faction

>>714388774
you have shit taste so kill yourself retarded secondary

>>714388806
do you know anything about mythology? you know since heroes 3 is heavily based on that. every single unit screams sea and pirates. the only unit i dont like are nixes. the rest is good

>>714389275
turns out im the retarded one since i replayed to myself instead of >>714389040
nice

>>714364614
I loved both. H3 for its pure soul. H4 for its fantastic hero skill system and multiclassing.

>>714378739
Ans the biggest maps are still too small.

>>714389183
>uuhh i want ugly shit tier sci fi in my fantasy
Retard

>>714393225
>fantasy
lol

>>714371374
>aren't they... you know, small, lorewise?
sounds like a perfect match for my dick

>>714362987
You are retarded. If you want realism go outside

>>714359818 (OP)
Why does all the pixel scaling in this game feel fucked up? It's like they're using mixels or something

>>714396117
Because the original screencap was zoomed in or it's from some reslopper.

>>714364614
based

1.Is Songs of Conq good ? ( i will pirate dlcs)
2.What are best HDmod setting for 1920x1080 to still get that artstyle gold.

>>714397472
1 nah, I despise that they put limits on how many units hero can have
2 that's what I use, close to the vanilla while also making some use of bigger monitors we have today

>>714397964
Nice game looks good what are other grievances you have with Conquest ?

Why didn't they go on creating new interesting factions in the sequels.

>>714398586
They saw the backlash on Forge and overcorrected by always giving nerds just basic fantasy.

>>714398553
unreadable map was another one
honestly I played like 3 missions and never looked back

>>714396936
>>714396936

try https://heroes3wog.net/heroes-4-basic-mod-download/

>>714378831
How do you get perfectly stitched full map shots like this?
fheroes2 doesn't have a map to image exporter does it?

I just want a pit lord boyfriend...

>>714362987
Correct observations, in the past we had cool chad horses and plenty of treasure to pass around.

Why didn't Sandro just pay Crag Hack? He could have fucking easily gotten away with it

>>714401117
my favourite homm5 unit. love the design

>>714401769
Necromancer fucking shits aren't known for their honor or intelligence

>>714401769
No money left over after child support.

What do Heroes chads think of Age of Wonders?

>>714359818 (OP)
Pretty crazy how the third entry hasn't been surpassed yet. And don't get me started on that new gsme that's coming out, it looks like a crappy mobile game, and in general, the art style doesn't look appealing at all.

>>714361175
Suxxx

>>714366780
No, but it helps.

>>714361309
campaigns are great, buy you REALLLY need to check out the HOTA campaigns and Factory's campaign. These are a real treat for good HOMM players

>>714374603
>bamboozled
well, he was kinda right if you'd have tactics and enough army or fighthing against low amount of dragons, but yeah

>>714403254
The factory campaign is unironically the best campaign in the game, the cove campaigns are a bit hit and miss in my opinion

>>714359818 (OP)
I know this map, there's something hidden behind the castle.

>>714361175
it looks good but at the same time like a mobile game which is the biggest red flag.
t. never played a HoMM only AoW and are looking into trying a HoMM, maybe OE if it turns out well received.

>>714371689
>lengthy
>armageddon's blade
bruh, wait till you play factory's campaign

Vampire lords are 100% balanced.

>>714404001
Yeah, some maps from cove's campaign are literally just so ridiculously hard, it's funny. Still like them a lot, they really did great with utilizing potential of maps with huge water territories. They play excellently with this specific faction.

But factory's campaign is just the greatest. The lore was also amazing, talking between Kastore and Frederick in the tombs were my favourite parts. They did cool thing with difficulty options. Up until then, an impossible difficulty was like a 'default' mode considering how most of the campaigns were easy-mid to go through. But here this difficulty actually matters, which is awesome. Robots kind of suck, though, no wonder you get gazillions of them in the final mission of the game kek

>>714361175
looking very good. I have played 2,3,4 and 5. ignored the others, this one looking really good.

>>714369767
based

>>714404823
As they should be

>>714405665
The robots are kino, get more engineers.
Also i love how many "puzzle" battles the campaign has, with otherwise shit tier spells being the key to victory.

panzelfklein

>>714361028

>>714398729
IV is full of "just advanced enough" mechanics up to borderline robotics. Everything past IV was made by someone else so doesn't count.

I can give you Eagle Eye

>>714361028

>>714361028
Of course

>>714361028

I cant even beat the game on the easiest mode..

Let's get started

I liked heroes 4 more than heroes 3. That feeling of only needing your heroes to slay entire armies was insane.

>>714402371
>What do Heroes chads think of Age of Wonders?
I've only played AoW3 but I liked it. I heard the earlier games are pure sovl, but I never got to playing them.

>>714359818 (OP)
why isn't songs of conquest way more popular?

>>714397472
It'll pass the time. Charming feel but dubious in places.

>>714361219
>>714413817
Angels may Have sewn the seed of me having an Ambush fetish
AND POSSIBLY FEET

I remember playing that lotr fanmade map with 3 friends hotseat
Good times

These look good
I'm cautiously optimistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuJcFPZ-6EI

>>714413817
>troglodyte mushroom patch from III's Dungeon

>>714413891
Im a humble pikeman not a monk explain the dubious thing.

>>714370789
when playing stronghold i pray for these spells, instead i get shit like stone skin or water protection

Any modern turn-based tactic with funcional multiplayer that can run in potatoes? Can't convince my friends to play homm so maybe something more recent makes them like the genre

>>714362987
>fountains 800 years before the water pump
no, this one's fine if you know the setting

>>714359886
>>714359886
White men creating games for other white men.

>>714411168
I liked that Heroes were actually present on battlefield with benefits and drawbacks

>>714415452
For me it's that you start maps poor as shit without troops or the resources to buy dwellings and can't buy another hero without more cities, so the first few turns are very determinant, which I don't like much.
Buildings don't have dedicated spaces. This allows you to build multiples of the same dwellings and specialize. But my efficiency brain usually ends up skipping half the roster due to it.
"Large building" spaces are very few, and the research ones are strong, so you rarely buy ultimate unit dwellings (and if you get there, you're usually cleaning up the AI anyway, which is... not very good.)
I find the gap between hard and very hard on campaigns too much.
They have a hard-on for small breakout maps (did I mention the first few turns are so determinant?) which is not what I enjoy in Heroes.
Still, I put a bunch of hours in it.

>>714416806
HoM&M games were literally made for Mrs. Van Caneghem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i44VEJpNKg
Fortress have really epic theme for swampfolks

>>714402371
worthy competitor

>>714417159
It's not. They play differently.

>>714363257
never pick up a different faction's buildings on the map. Iirc if you can find the dragon's building on the map thats a free dragon every week

>>714372946
>expert artillery
such a waste on a top tier hero

>>714361175
desperate attempt to squeeze some money from their dead series by pandering to boomers

>>714413817
>>714414085
>>714414161
>>714414205
>>714414245
>>714414261
>>714414362
I love V so much, it's unreal. I genuinely mean it.

Shame about the shit engine, and the delayed patch, and the gpu driver issues, and the shit AI, and the long delayed 5.5 mod... fuck. So much potential

>>714361041
Heroes 5 was...strange. It wasn't bad. It wasn't Heroes 3, though. If it was like, a spin-off, I'd rate it a lot higher. I actually played a lot of it and enjoyed it quite a bit truth be told.

>>714417383
do they really?

>>714370453
basically

>>714359818 (OP)
Fortress is still my favorite.

>>714366780
Unironically, 5 is a great starting point, but 3 is a better game. 4 is good too, just its not 3.

>>714422962
1. Adventure map.
1.1. Creatures:
No stacks.
Can have multiple heroes in the same party.
Up to 7 parties can participate in the same battle.
Conflicting alignments might cause a party to rebel (become neutrals that move and do things).
Units can be swimmers, floaters (hover), flyers, tunnellers. Mountains can be crossed by flyers, underground can be dug out by tunnellers.
1.2. Towns:
Income affected by terrain.
Buildings can be destroyed, including by spells. Occupying party can raze a town entirely if it is strong enough.
Populations that are at odds with your kingdom's alignment may even rebel.
Ruins (razed town) can be reanimated into an undead town.
1.3. Spells:
Can alter terrain.
Can permanently (with mana upkeep) summon creatures. Most are usually not obtainable through other means.
Can place permanent (mana upkeep) enchantments on creatures and towns. And even the entire current world they are cast on.
Can damage creatures.
Can resurrect or reanimate creatures.
1.4. Diplomacy:
Actually exists, unlike HoM&M. Somehwat primitive but still. Alignments matter quite a lot.

2. Combat.
2.1. Creatures:
Have movement points that can be spent in discrete quantities.
Remaining number of attacks per round are determined by remaining movement points. Same with retaliations.
Ranged attacks can be completely blocked by obstacles.
Ranged attacks can hit unintended targets.
All attacks have chance to hit.
Lots of varied special abilities, some creatures have more than one. Heroes tend to end up with ten or more.
2.2. Towns:
Instead of only one progressively better defensive structure you get an attacking upgrade, a defensive (anti-magic) upgrade, and an enchantment that is placed on defenders.
2.3. Spells:
All non-global spells can be cast in combat too. Both damage and enchantment.

I think I'm forgetting some differences still.

>>714422962
Oh, right, dynamic quests by the four spirits. And some creatures can grow into better ones upon gaining enough experience points to become elites.

>>714424717
And ruins can obviously be rebuilt. And towns can be build just from nothing by a pioneer. And outposts can be built. And roads too. Ships are also actual units that can participate in combat.

Will heroes be integral part of battles in the upcoming HoMM game and not just "decorative" elements?

what the hell is a kronberk?

>>714402371
Age of Wonders 1 is pure sovl
Age of Wonders 2 is objectively really good but I struggled getting into it because I just found Shadow Magic to be incredibly ugly to look at and for no other reason
Age of Wonders 3 was good
Age of Wonders 4 is probably the best 4x in years although there isn't much competition. Great game and the tons of content we've seen released since game dropped have really helped to flesh this game out. Some questionnable changes to heroes since release though.

>>714424717
Oh, right, non-summoned creatures have gold upkeep. So no hiring over 9000 of whatever and running around with them. Ran out of gold - they start leaving.

I really don't get how some can play both for even 15 minutes and consider them the same type of game.

>>714397472
its...mediocre

>>714414261
damn nigga u gay

>>714362987
I'm so fucking tired of this place holy shit
So tired of faggots who legit think being balls deep in endless layers of irony pretending to take a post like this seriously or not is the height of pastimes
No one will ever like you
You are not funny