As you continue to support AI, vidya will never surpass the peak that was 2007.
But you fags can't realise that

What does one have to do with the other?

>2k7
>peak
games were already well on their way down by then pookie

>>714449245
2007 vidya was made by humans with a passion
AI has no such thing

>>714449139 (OP)
That STALKER enemy is only in the 2009 game

L4D is a
>fun with friends
shitfest that was never good. on par with Gaylo and Call It Doody MP.

>>714449139 (OP)
All games were brown just like u

>>714449335
Humans in 2025 all suck ass, though, literally or figuratively. Besides, both can still exist simultaneously.

2007 was a very 2007 year. It has it's own specific feel to it compared to the general 2000s

>>714449139 (OP)
I'm well aware that left 4 dead 2 will never be surpassed

it's not a question of money or talent but *why* games are made now

left 4 dead 2 was made to be sold in a box for a one-time payment. it was designed to be as fun as possible from minute 1 of gameplay to minute infinity.

you try making left 4 dead 2 today the suits would be telling you to put premium currency in it and to slow the fun down so players will shell out cash

>>714449302
spbp

>>714449438
humans who suck will use AI to make their shitty games, indie or AAA

i only hope humans with a soul will make their games without ""tools""

>>714449139 (OP)
that's 2009 but you are right

>>714449335
I'm not sure if coom waifu and voice AI could develop any videogames at all.

What is the point of doomposting like this? Like >>714449695 says there is always going to be an abundance of people with passion and drive to create something of their own. AI isn't suddenly going to erase human creativity. I can see it affecting triple A releases, but they're already shit AI or not.

>>714449139 (OP)
I nevt bought the dlc on the 360 when I had the chance, now it's gone forever. It's better on PC, but it still stings.

>>714449961
they can already make games
and soulless ""humans"" will play and sell them
>>714450048
>an abundance of people with passion and drive to create something of their own
i wish this is what would happen, but i know it isn't. Real artists will become a minority

>>714450242
>Real artists
usecase?

gaming will never be the same

>>714449139 (OP)
AI will save vidya games

>>714449504
>you try making left 4 dead 2 today the suits would be telling you to put premium currency in it and to slow the fun down so players will shell out cash
This is such a standard now that it actually feels weird playing old games and seeing them as a fully finished product. It's just feels so weird seeing modern entertainment never say "We're done". The show must go on and never end.

If we're to be honest, vidya will never reach that point again anyway, AI or not. At least AI can provide a few funny shitposts before everything falls over.

>>714450048
You can study these kinds of people looking at our past. They're just luddites.

>>714449139 (OP)
I no longer care. Let it turn to more advanced stages of putrid shit. I will just play less and less. Vidya is not my sole purpose in life.

>>714451757
its been a decade since ive seen that cat

op is a fag and probably was still in diapers in 2007

>>714449139 (OP)
I mean I live through it. I started gaming in 1998 and its been hard as fuck watching your hobby go to shit. What hurts the worse is kids will never get to experience the highs of the era and will only know service and pay to win slop. They will never get to understand how cool it was stepping into 3d gaming or just the general positivity for gaming from the 90s, and early 2000s even the journalist were a bunch of nerds who loved games.

What is left for them to lash out in anger as you tell them the best times have already passed them by and now we all have left is to be subjected to corpo slop.

>>714452165
>I mean I live through it. I started gaming in 1998
You're basically a zoomer yourself, pal.
I think 2007 was already kind of the end, /v/ was already pretty pessimistic about the industry at that point.

>>714449139 (OP)
The tech industry began a steady decline after the dotcom bubble burst when normgroids started flooding the tech industry and were bringing their psychopathic masters along with them.

>>714450048
normgroids raped the industry too hard and have erased every game dev opportunity between indie (a team of 1-10 people) and AAA corpocuck shit.

>>714450242
Anyone can be a real artist. They just have to find a fun way to express themselves. For a lot of people AI has been that way and we've seen millions of people indulge in it to create art.

When it makes video games easier the same thing will happen and a ton of passionate gamers will make games, since AI will enable them.

>>714449425
And I thought I was a misanthrope. L4D is some of the most fun you can have online playing with other people. What games do you find fun?

>>714449139 (OP)
So we've had almost 20 years of video games being shit without AI. I don't think you thought your argument through.

what i want to know is what AI fags think will happen if AI is widely accepted.
do they really think that when everyone is churching out slop, that suddenly theirs will stand out?

>>714449139 (OP)
But the best game ever came out in 1999.

>>714453460
You're just letting a boogeyman live rent free in your head while ignoring what's going on in the world. AI is already widely accepted and some AI fags already do stand out(not that it matters).

>>714453658
your delusion is almost intoxicating.

>>714449335
>b-but at least its not made by AI
Not an AIfag but its gonna be grim when this cope is being used to defend 7th-8th gen slop
its like what >>714449302 said shit was and still is going downhill

>>714453717
Not even going to attempt to prove me wrong?

>>714453658
what does standing out matter if it can just be replicated?

>>714453883
its impossible to argue with someone that operates on a level of delusion so extreme that he thinks that AI is already widely accepted.

>>714454048
>gives up immediately
Okay then.

>>714453460
I count myself an AIfag and I'd say it shouldn't be 'accepted' in the way most people seem to think
It is a new tool, not a replacement for anything. It can (and should) have some uses in generating
>images
Textures, porn and artwork when properly handled+curated, maybe prototype character designs I guess
>voicework
When guided properly it can be quite versatile, as we've already seen with AI song covers. It could help when actors can't make it to the studio so they can no longer cry muh scheduling conflicts, or maybe even bring back beloved characters whose actors have passed away
>music
I don't know enough about music to know how it can help, but I know it should be able to.

It shouldn't take over game dev entirely, it shouldn't write stories or whatever the fuck, it shouldn't be completely relied upon for anything more than suggestions, searches and grunt work, but I do believe it has value as a tool

>>714454113
If it completely replaced Japanese, Korean, and Chinese developers; gaming can only improve.

>>714454258
it does... but it all congregates on india.

>>714454113
>I don't know enough about music to know how it can help, but I know it should be able to.
The hollyjews are FREAKING over AI music. It will destroy them.

>>714454113
I think the people that constantly bemoan AI just want more reasons to misery-wank and they purposefully blind themselves to its usefulness. It's a valuable tool that can be misused like every other technology. I'm pretty tired of the constant moralfagging about it, especially when it's faggots like >>714454048 that offer nothing other than demoralizing doomspeak.

1995-2005 was the golden decade of video games, this is not up for debate.

Flux Kontext Dev with 1 sample picture. The speed of AI progress is staggering. At this rate of advancements, specialized character trained LoRas may become redundant for most use cases.

>>714454724
Name 3 good PC games from 2005

>>714449302
i disagree because halo 3, mass effect, the orange box, crackdown, and guitar hero 3 came out in 2007.
2007 was a great year for gaming for me

>>714455573
Jackie Chan, Jackie Chan, and Jackie Chan.

>>714455108
I wonder when those kinds of tools will coalesce into the definitive "lora"-thing, I've seen dozens of them pop up over the years lol.
I was most impressed by NAI's though, seemed really easy to use and because it was an anime model it didn't lose the style like yours kinda did, since Flux isn't very good for art like that.

>>714455581
>The Orange Box
>Gives you 5 decent games for the cost of $20
My crude teenage mind was blown

I love AI so much bros

>>714455945
In that case I just decided I hate it now
Fuck you

>>714455945
Same.

>>714455945
>>714456326
Are there any good online AI art tools to fuck around with that don't require you to make an account? I've only ever really messed around with the chatbots. I'm guessing all of the really good stuff is using local models or a paid service.

>>714456608
I use local, a 2060 12GB is sufficient for most image models, though I'd recommend a 5060 16GB as the baseline for anyone interested getting into it

>>714456608
>that don't require you to make an account?
I doubt it but I saw this yesterday. Itmight be useful for you if they weren't lying.
https://x.com/javilopen/status/1940429274739298330
I use my own gpu since I like prompting huge boobs and creating new styles, or FFT looking stuff.

>>714449139 (OP)

>>714449335
90% of 2025 games are not made with passion so there's no functional difference.

>>714455573
F.E.A.R, Chaos Theory, Winnie the Pooh's Rumbly Tumbly Adventure JK that's a Gamecube game. Swat 4

>>714460680
>F.E.A.R
Total slop

>>714449425
ur gonna die alone lol

>>714449139 (OP)
If you have a thousand and a half then VR vidya is peak shooter. Waaay better than 2007 flatscreen shooters.

>>714460809
>calling flatpanels flatscreens
Imagine.

>>714449139 (OP)
I will use AI to develop my own animal crossing with sex and you're not going to stop me

The Last Stand ruined L4D2.

>>714460886
Imagine imagining imagination.

>>714460896
im too fat to live in the gamer cube

Them patching out infinite melee and the fucking pause button in 1 was the gatest shit imaginable.

>>714461141
what a coincidence. the last stand ruined dawn of war 2

>>714461191
Imagine being at computers.

There's no fucking way the tank salutes I have hundreds of hours and never seen that

i dont really care honestly. industry needs to crash anyway. lets you separate the wheat from the chaff so much easier. games made by passionate people will always be there and as long as you know what you are personally looking for, you can always find gold.

>>714455581
>gaylo
Embarrassing.

>>714465158
how new?

>>714465158
Halo was the first time we were able to shoot in first person, and play with other people on the internet. Please understand.

>>714455581
Gaylo, Crackdown...xbox faggots are so embarrassing lol.

>>714455581
the games were still good but far from peak

>>714449302
Gaming went to shit after 2015

>>714449139 (OP)
Peak was 1990s - 2010s.
Most games I play are from this era.
1980s feel outdated, while 2020s are TRANNY NIGGER DUDEBRO SLOP.