*ruins pc gaming*

>destroys all competition just by being a better product
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>714467386
Yes I would rather download patches from websites. Yes I would rather buy physical boxes of pc games. Yes I would rather use websites with community forums. Yes I would rather visit fan pages for mods. Yes I would rather find outside ways to communicate with my squad mates. Yes you’re trans.

>>714467552
I forgot to add, Yes I would like to filter third worlders and zoomers by doing all of the above.

>>714467308 (OP)
PC gaming would be nothing but 3 dudes in a garage games without steam. And you would have to mail order their game because there would be no distribution system. You seriously have no idea how much on life support PC gaming was from 2005 to 2009.

It's crazy how valvegans whine so much about anti consumer practices while sucking gaben's cock and thanking him for completely destroying game ownership on pc
Now computers don't even use disks anymore because pc physical media is dead and all their money "buying games" goes into online licenses

>>714467867
why in the living fuck would i ever want to store 1000 individual disks in my room

>>714468163

>>714468163
>room
get your own place, faggot

>>714468163
hows having a physical disk any different from copying files on an ssd

>>714468441
only if you can cook and clean

>>714468352
hows storing a physical disk inside a little box any different from copying files on an ssd

>>714467552
Nobody would be selling for you to buy, cuz they could make way more on consoles.

>>714467867
Do you think disk drives only existed for video games or something?

>>714468616
for starters, we're talking about steam so you need your account to get through the drm, otherwise these files are worthless unless you resort to piracy, which kills the point of buying anything on steam

>>714468768
video games are the only thing keeping disk drives alive to this day

>>714468775
DRM is not mandatory on Steam any more than "CD has to be in the drive" was mandatory on CDs. There are games on Steam you could just copy to another computer and play without Steam running. Granted that means the game can't have mandatory dependence on any Steam APIs, which is up to the dev.

>>714468775
kek
so you think valve will take your account away?

>your account to get through the drm
physical media also has drm

>>714468829
That's irrelevant. Disk drives and CDs were used for more things than just video games and all those use cases have also gone completely digital.

>>714468352
>implying disks can't have invasive DRM
Sony got sued like twice for covertly installing extremely persistent spyware/malware on PCs using disks to play music to prevent piracy.

>>714467308 (OP)
>nintendo trannies seething about steam thread #8765332489909765444567

>>714469281
>nintendo seething out of nowhere
switch 2 sales really mindbroke steam deck users

>>714467308 (OP)
That's not StarForce, SecuROM and Games for Windows LIVE.

>download game from steam
>copy steam emulator dll into game folder
>burn game folder to disc
how is this not the same thing as physical

>>714469062
>There are games on Steam you could just copy to another computer and play without Steam running
you mean like 0.1% of games, the fact that you have to act like this is the standard shows you have no point to make and have to resort to being disingenous

>>714469519
>use piracy methods to run the game
so no point in paying steam for it, you're already pirating anyway

>>714469519
>disc
why copy consolists? it is much more practical to put it in a pendrive

>>714469643
if PC physical media was still alive you would be here asking no disc cracks

>>714468163
Because disk usually come with some goodies, i have GTA 5 physical edition with map of san andreas and los santos, Fallout 4 had perks poster. I want that goodies not just the disc

>>714469842
thats all dust collecting junk

>>714467867
I thank gaben because he created a platform that distributes game files for me to pirate (and own forever)

>>714467552
>>714467658
how many grey pubes ya got uncy

>>714469607
I didn't act like it's the standard. DRM free games on physical media like CDs wasn't the standard either, genius or did you unironically think that back when we had CD physical media on PC, that we could just take the CD out of the drive and play the game? Cuz that's not how it worked. Even some pirated games needed the CD to be in the drive.
If devs implement DRM, then there is DRM - simple as that. All I said is that you don't need to implement DRM on Steam and there are plenty of games that don't.

In fact here, a game I bought on Steam, copied from 1 computer to another and then ran without Steam running. I do have Steam installed on that computer so the first line in console shows what it would look like if it was in fact running, but as far as the game is concerned Steam doesn't even exist because the game is on system wine which has no access to any functionality related to Steam. I could write this game on magnetic tape and play it 100 years from now.

>>714470119
you made great points but I have to disagree with everything you just said because you posted a vtuber game

>>714470225
Well my bad. I ain't got anything else installed I know to be DRM free. (only got 3 games installed right now)

>>714469651
it is not... pendrives are more expensive

>>714470074
you should thank those who make cracks and bypass drm, not gaben
however you can thank marcin and michal for gog

>>714470972
>more space
>reusable
>compact
>dont need a disc drive
worth it

>>714467867
Shut the fuck up about physical media already. It literally does not matter if your game comes on a round slice of plastic or as 1s and 0s over the internet. The real enemy is DRM, and I'm convinced physicaltards are paid by denuvo to distract us from that.

>>714471083
>more space
less space per bitcoin spent
>reusable
irrelevant since you're using it for archiving purposes
>compact
usually more volume than a COMPACT disc
>dont need a disc drive
most computers have a disc drive

>>714470089
ive had gray pubs since i was like 15

>>714470119
Unrelated but how do I get my prompt to look like picrel? Is it a feature of zsh or just some terminal theme? Kind of new to Linux.

>>714467552
No one is preventing you from creating those websites / physical boxes / community sites right now, and trying to sell them / make them popular. Thing is you won't, because no one wants that shit any more. They want Steam, no one wants to "go back" to your lost childhood dream of how shitty everything used to be.

>>714471438
That's Starship prompt. You can use starship with other stuff too, like fish or bash. Or hell, powershell.

>>714471537
Looks nice. Thanks anon

>>714467552
If you still want physical, then go back to being a console peasant, you oldfaggot.
Pc gaming is all about digital hoarding nowadays. Where the fuck am I to keep all these digital games(pirated and backups) if had them on physical? I need a warehouse to keep them.
Steam has its own skeletons in its closet, but it has saved pc gaming, and boosted linux popularity. Any victory against Microjeet is a good thing in my book

>>714467552
Yes, you wouldn't get to do any of these things if Steam hadn't existed. Without Steam you would still have all your games in digital form, just spaced out across 4 launchers. Nigger.

>no you don't get it, without valve, gaming would be a perfect communist utopia where we all hold hands and own boxes

>>714472603
relax, rajesh

>>714467308 (OP)
Just remember: Valve was the one that won.
Out of all the game devs that would've been the first to make a (hopefully universally inoffensive) game storefront on PC, it was Valve that did it first and edged out the competition.
I don't mean this to sound like they're saviors or that Steam is the best thing ever, but damn near all the competitors except maybe Itch/GoG are shit tier, so I'm glad we got Steam instead of Origin or EGS.
The worst, yet still possible, outcome would've been that all the game devs would run their own stores even more than they do now, so you'd have a launcher for basically every dev.

That said, piracy is still #1 if you live somewhere where they don't hound the shit out of you for it. Fuck launchers and DRM and all the added bloat that comes with modern PC gaming.
As long as Valve continues to remain relatively hands-off (and as long as my ISP continues to absolutely hound me at all times to make sure I don't torrent), I'm basically fine the way things are right now. Cheap shit on sale on Steam, Kemono/F95 for everything else.

>>714472889
Calm down, Gaben cocksucker.

>>714467867
Yeah, its not like adobe and other software companies, and streaming services played a role in killing physical. Its all Gaben

>>714473507
NO ARGUMENT HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING STUPID!

>>714467308 (OP)
>Ye olde retard Boomer thread
Its time to shut down your winXP desktop and get on with the times, gramps. Your arguments itt make you sound like you have early stage dementia

It's becoming a bloated early access landfill

>>714471243
stop taking meth

>>714468163
>1000 games
>that's 3 years of nonstop gaming if you play 1 every day
at least lie with dignity

>>714467552
>wasting time builds character

>>714474886
How about you try not being a fucking casual?

>>714467308 (OP)
We've reached the point where I can safely say the people who post these threads are certainly not old enough to ever remember a world of PC gaming before steam.

>>714468775
Use Goldberg you retard
You replace one file and they become perma offline copies

>>714475072
>t. didn't play 90% of games in steam library and the other 10% played for 25 minutes each

>>714475123
>le steam saved pc gaming
stop spamming this lie people actually believe it just like they believed 6 gorillion

>>714475230
nice projection bro

>>714475432
>no u
not argument against absolute truth
nobody fucking plays 1000 games in any meaningful way unless your for playing is 25 minutes as I said

>>714467552
>Yes I would rather download patches from websites.
You wouldn't be able to because they'd just make a launcher for their own products with a storefront and you'd be stuck with a launcher for every developer like Rockstar games launcher!
>Yes I would rather buy physical boxes of pc games
You wouldn't be able to because the technological progress of disk space and bandwidth available to the average consumer would've driven publishers to digital only with their own launcher regardless of steam!
>Yes I would rather use websites with community forums
You wouldn't be able to because social media, Teamspeak, Skype, and Discord would all eventually kill them anyways irregardless of steam!
>Yes I would rather visit fan pages for mods.
And you still wouldn't as aggregate sites for multiple games like Nexus would kill almost all the fan page communities, and the ones that did exist for games like Rune are now all dead because eventually the 80 year old boomer that ran it croaks and all that content is lost forever!
>Yes I would rather find outside ways to communicate with my squad mates.
And this is why you wouldn't be able to use websites with community forums! Because everybody did this anyways!

>>714475230
Video games didn't become a thing three years ago, Einstein. A non-casual faggot can easily play a thousand games or more in their lifetime.

>>714474886
>what is hyperbole
Nep posters are still retards, I see.

>>714475292
back in my day you either had to find the game in store, which means if its not new, or in the bargain bin, you wont find it, or find it on a weird launcher that takes a week to verify your payment details, and emails you a CD key, and either physically mails you a CD, or lets you download the files over multiple days, and i really hope no-one in your house needs to use the phone in that time.

>>714475515
Alright kid, that's great.

>>714475640
Lucky fat old bastard I look like him and never got a chance like that

>>714472889
>just spaced out across 4 launchers.
One of the main advantages of PC gaming used to be that it wasn't centralized and controlled by one company.

>>714475292
You are the one who posted that statement, It's almost like you didn't even read the post I made.

>>714475612
nigger nobody gave a shit about buying online game except americans before 2010s
everyone else either got their pc games from stores and owned it forever or pirated it
stop spamming the same old lies

>ruined
lol
if it wasn't steam it would be microsoft or someone even worse
you think anyone else would've branched out to linux? or how about the drm? you think anyone else would keep it paper thin and bypassable by copying something from a single zip file?

>>714475640
shes borderline fat too, i give it 2 years and will look like a whale compared to that guy

>>714475603
Even knowing what that character's name is makes you a retard as well.

>>714475912
You must be a manlet with how much all of your posts are reaching.

what a pointless thread

>>714475872
steam may as well be microsoft considering it was made with microsoft bucks from fomer microsoft millionaires
gaben only pushes open source crap now to avoid microsoft's wrath in case they make steam incompatible or something. he is just afraid of his old masters blowing his ass.

>>714476015
That was my first post, I just hate weebs.

>>714467308 (OP)
>new game releases
>msrp 90 usd (because of muh "plastic expensive" and the corporate fags would do it unironically)
>limited copies
>the game gets scalped shamelessly too
>real price is ~200 usd
we live in a better timeline actually

>>714467552
get a load of this fucking boomer lmao, how are you're knees holding up unc? how are you're kids?

Valve winning was the good timeline for PC gaming, trust me

>>714476095
Then you're a newfag because that character was spammed a lot in the early 2010s.

>>714476065
>he's doing objectively good things that anyone can benefit from for free but it's bad because he's not doing it for charity

>valve winning is good because what if microsoft?
>look inside
>two founders of valve are ex microsoft millionaires
do steam drones?

>>714475823
Im Autralian mate.
90% of games never ended up down here unless you went through shady webstores.
shit dude, WOW came out in the early 2000s, everquest was PRE 2000, and the M.U.Ds me and my mates used to play on before even that all had paid memberships, or a one time fee for playing.
"only Americans cared about the internet before 2010" fuck off, what are you 12? "i wasn't born then so no-one else existed"
stop being mad that no-one gives a fuck about epic launcher even though your favourite game fortnite is on there.

>>714476254
yes, ex-microsoft employees were ahead of the curve in knowing how cancerous that corporation is

>>714467308 (OP)
Everyone likes to joke about the Steam monopoly but I genuinely believe it's the primary reason you don't see more PC users emulating games. If you needed to put more effort in to play different games you would see more people experimenting but when everything you want is one click away so it makes people too lazy to look for interesting things online

>>714476254
>if you left a cushy job at microsoft you agree with microsoft
frogposter intellectuals everyone

>>714476160
>My sireee chud, you've wasted less time on this website than I have. I shall demonstrate my superior intellect by naming pedobait anime characters then get defensive about it.

>>714476312
>>714476365

>>714467552
>DUDE, I FUCKING LOVE CREATING ACCOUNTS ON 10 DIFFERENTS FORUMS JUST TO DOWNLOAD PATCHES AND MODS!
>I FREAKING LOVE DOWNLOADING FROM RAPIDSHARE AT 50KPBS CAPPED SPEED!
>I FOOKING LOVE DEALING WITH POWER TRIPPING FAT LARD MODERATORS!!
>I FUARKING LOVE DISK ROT!!!
I FAAAAKING LOVE WASTING MY TIME JUST TO SET UP A SHITTY 10 HOUR GAME!!!

>>714476254
>Gabe Newell's last year at Microsoft was 1996, when he co-founded Valve Corporation with Mike Harrington.

The most recent OS at that time was Windows 95 for the public, and I'm going to wager you've never actually touched it in your life zoomzoom.

>>714476557
what are you doing posting on /v/ gramps?
you are 50.

>>714476487
>lose
>c-c-cope COPE COPE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
imagine being a fucking neanderthal thinking people are cardboard cutouts with set personalities

>>714467867
I don't understand you anti-gabens. Steam is a perfectly fine platform. It has some issues, like not range banning all russians from dota, but the store page is perfect. It's the best way to shop for vidya because I get to see actual user reviews with proof they actually played the game.

>>714476615

>>714476641
they're tendies who are butthurt about the steamdeck, nobody else has any real problem with valve

>>714476613
>LE MICROSOFT MILLIONAIRES
>LE BAD
>LE RUINED PC GAMING
>never even used Windows 95

Yep, really showing that you're an expert of what PC gaming was before steam

>>714476641
>spending real money on steam in 2025
RUN

>>714476254
i hate valve but to claim they are in bed with micropoo is insanity, Gabe literally made his own linux based OS because microsoft wants to fuck his storefront over .

>>714476665
i accept your concession given your nonexistent rebuttal

>>714476709
>"I am 50 and I defend daddy gaben from mean anons"
very based of you gramps
this is (You)

Don't worry, eventually it will die (like all services) and we'll be back to square one

>>714476613
I'm here to learn zoomer speak so when they come to shit on my lawn I can yell: you have no rizz, your drip doesn't slap, and it just hits different to tell yall this vibe of yours smells like a skibidi toilet. Take your chicken jockeys and unalive yourself you dead aaaaah incels.

>>714476423
You wanted to lord over me for something as trivial as knowing the name of a character and now you're mad I'm calling you about some other trivial thing. Welcome to the website, newfaggot.

>>714476723
What are you even on about you schizo?

>>714467552
go take a shower, faggot

>>714467867
You can't be too harsh on those retards. They also believe that creating account and adding valid payment method is somehow "easier" than just downloading a game.

>>714476870
You are wasting money on software you can get for free instantly and you call me schizo?

>>714476815
>>714476613
Based grandpa dabbing on them zoomzooms

Rather "saved pc gaming". I remember how pre-Steam I could only curse when many less popular or indie games were out of my reach because local publishers would only sell what would guarantee profit. When Steam started to accelerate, I could suddenly get all those more niche games like Slytherine 4x and other strategy games.

>>714476939
>Shovelware was out of your reach
Good

>>714476920
Are you a russian subhuman or something? I'm not downloading your pootin botnet proxies. cyka blyat you fag

>>714476838
When you'd transition, troon? Or, should I call you "Lilith"?

>>714476813
only way digital monopolies are dying is if we get another Teddy Roosevelt who really, really wants to piss off some billionaire cryptofascists.

Hard to see happening any time soon when unlike the railroad, oil, and steel, most of these digital monopolies run control over information and social engineering.

>>714476990
good goyim
support the people that hate you

>>714471083
For archival, they need to be loaded and powered up regularly or they'll fail. It's best to use HDDs (put them in USB sleds or something for ease of use), as they can sit for a lot longer while still being viable.

>>714477058
gaben isnt even in that picture you moron blyatnik

>>714476984
>NOOOO YOU CANT PLAY GAMES I DON'T LIKE REEEE

Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw.

>>714476801
You dumb faggots never can come up with a valid alternative.
>consoles
I don't want to play at 720p30.
>Epic
Same shit, worse launcher and experience.
>GOG
Same shit, worse launcher (or worse experience without the launcher) and no games.

Just wait for another dot-com bubble shitshow, and POOF, your shit is dead
>Inb4 2big2fail
lol

>>714477124
Don't care.
Not paying for video games.

>>714477148
The reason those companies collapsed is because they didn't have a sane business model. It was just "we'll have a site...ON THE INTERNET!" Pets.com couldn't figure out how they were going to ship 50lb bags of dog food economically.

>>714477036
Hello? The bot's broken.

I will not buy a 100-200$ cd bwo

>people say Steam saved PC gaming
>PC gaming pretty much died the moment Steam got popular
Someone elaborate what people mean when they say that steam saved PC gaming

>>714477479
What the fuck is your definition of died

>>714477479
They are lying.
I don't remember needing fucking steam to enjoy warcraft 3 or half life or counter strike.

Pre steam
>insert disc to play or download from MALWARE.com to launch without
>basement bin at the store cheapest option. only absolute shit in there (for $10 minimum)
>go to devs website for patch (if there is one)

Steam made it cheap and easy and they did it before the big boys were even thinking about the idea. They're about the best we coulda got. And if you dont like it you've got the equivalent of the old days in piracy.

>>714477172
you aren't paying for anything since you have no money

>>714477172
>I don't pay for the games I liked and completed
Actual turbofaggotry
You deserve to see trannies in your favourite games

>>714477632
How do I talk to you then?

>>714467308 (OP)
It was fucking dead and was getting dogpiled further with shit like Microsoft paying to keep exclusives off it.

Imagine installing a modern game off disc. That'd be ungodly.
>>714477479
PC gaming was dying, as Epic and others completely abandoned it due to rampant piracy as well as retailers not wanting to carry PC games due to units sold.
Valve stuck with it, and kept promoting Steam. Eventually, publishers started dumping their games on Steam, and noticed sales that were significantly stronger than what they got with physical games before. Suddenly everyone comes crawling back. Now you have Sony starting to give up on console exclusives and publishing their shitware on PC. Outside of Nintendo's first party bing bing wahoo, the PC market offers the most at the highest quality possible.

>>714477479
It got saved for people who still play games.

>>714477703
>shitware
Fuck you, sony games are one of the finest in the industry

>>714477703
>they saved it by having publishers forcing you to play their games on a DRM platform
>ignore the fact the moment Steam got popular was when EVERYONE abandoned PC gaming
Yes anon, it was steam and steam alone that made people go back to PC gaming. Lets just ignore the fact that every single one of the most popular PC games were and are not on Steam.

>>714477672
good question Im sure comrade pootin is dying to know why are you are dodging the draft

>>714477804
DRM is optional on Steam, and you keep making this argument, but you're a faggot. It's up to the publisher. There are games that are DRM free on there right now.

>>714477874
no sir
not paying a dime to gabe jewell

>>714477893
So I can buy games on steam and install games on steam without having to download steam and make an account on steam?

>>714477334
Your mind is broken, tranny.

>>714477978
Can I buy games on disc and install them without having to buy a disc drive?

Steam drones are like jews. They always spam the same talking points "le steam saved pc gaming" like jews do with 6 gorillion but when you point out the truth they feign ignorance and tomorrow they don't remember anything and keep spamming the same old lies again and again.

>>714478082
Are you actually trying to make a comparison between a disc driver(hardware) and a DRM program (software) that collects and sells your data?

>>714478090
>the truth
the truth is that they're literally the most benevolent company you could have filling that position and you have to be a retarded anarchist to believe pc can go back to tiny communes

>>714477804
>the fact that every single one of the most popular PC games were and are not on Steam.
>and are not on Steam.

lol

>>714478204
>f2p botted game that is still not one of the most popular PC games
your point being?

>>714477978
>what do you mean i have to go to a bank and make an account to have a card

>>714478201
Willing partners with Sweet Baby Inc and other DEI companies, actively injecting Steam with politics. Read why that is bad here.

Helped mainstream gambling lootboxes & microtransactions into the video game industry.

Rakes in 5-10+ billion USD in revenue operating a corrosive 80%~ monopoly over the PC market with it's unjustifiable 30% cut, only hires a handful of staff of which|most|are|wildly|incompetent|children|at|best and vastly overpays them. Valve having no shareholders being a private company, where does all of the money go? No one knows.

Engages in widespread censorship ranging from banning legitimate reviews to suppressing review scores just because they're gifted &/ not directly bought on Steam to frequently manipulating|game|review scores to banning reviews pointing out DEI to ghost deleting certain words to engaging in discriminatory moderation to banning game developers under false pretenses and much, much more.

Operate Steam with extreme hypocrisy, abandoning human-powered moderation for things being put on the platform except for their own games or threatening 2d game developers over uncensor patches while allowing other games like Outcast 2 to have bloodied, visible genitalia.

Integrated the use of the horrible anti-consumer scam DRM Denuvo into Steamworks despite the CEO citing piracy as a non-issue.

Banned all avenues of downloading mods outside of the dysfunctional Steam Workshop. This was done as an attack on their competitors (GOG, etc) that usually got some mods this way but this has also crippled things for server owners and even regular users that want to stop mods from updating (and breaking) themselves which can't be disabled.

Want me to keep going? You'll forget all of this tomorrow anyway.

>>714478303
You could use cash, but you'd get arrested on the way out for being a drug dealer.

>>714478270
You cannot find any game that gets higher numbers than CS2 daily that isn't out on multiple platforms, while CS2 is a PC exclusive.
>B-B-B-BOTS A-A-AND V-V-VALVE C-C-C-CoOKS T-H-HEIR O-O-OWN B-B-BOOK
hoooooooooly COPE

>>714478082
You don't need to create an account or pay with digital payment method which by the way requires your real personal information to by a disc drive or a disc. You can just go to store, pay in cash and leave, and nobody has any data on you.

>>714478373
Minecraft

>>714467552
>retards actually replied to a strawman for hours and somehow their arguments were all still wrong

>>714478340
>Willing partners with Sweet Baby Inc
Searching for posts that contain ‘"Willing partners with Sweet Baby Inc"’. 4 results found.
>>714478383
You're on camera, and the cash has your fingerprints. Now explain how I'm going to buy games in a brick and mortar store when they aren't sold there anymore.
>consoles
I don't want to play at 720p30 low.
>lawl ur puter dun dew 4k lawl I mad @ u 4 playin' games at 4k165 so I lie n say u no play @ 4k lawl ruffles have ridges le mayonnaise lawl lawl lawl lawl lawl

>>714478446
>Minecraft
Bedrock Edition
Minecraft: Bedrock Edition (only Minecraft on most platforms and in-game) refers to the multi-platform versions of Minecraft developed by Mojang Studios, Xbox Game Studios, and SkyBox Labs and based on the Bedrock codebase. The latest version is 1.21.82.
Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition Xbox 360 (Final version: TU75)
Minecraft: Xbox One Edition Xbox One (Final version: CU58)
Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition PlayStation 3 (Final version: 1.84)
Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition PlayStation 4 (Final version: 1.95)
Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition PlayStation Vita (Final version: 1.84)
Minecraft: Wii U Edition Wii U (Final version: Patch 43)
Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition Nintendo Switch (Final version: 1.0.17)

>>714478340
>Rakes in 5-10+ billion USD in revenue operating a corrosive 80%~ monopoly over the PC market with it's unjustifiable 30% cut, only hires a handful of staff of which|most|are|wildly|incompetent|children|at|best and vastly overpays them. Valve having no shareholders being a private company, where does all of the money go? No one knows.
Private company bad? what the fuck kind of argument is that

>Engages in widespread censorship ranging from banning legitimate reviews to suppressing review scores just because they're gifted &/ not directly bought on Steam to frequently manipulating|game|review scores to banning reviews pointing out DEI to ghost deleting certain words to engaging in discriminatory moderation to banning game developers under false pretenses and much, much more.
Steam has the most transparent review system of any platform, letting you know the hours played and whether or not the game was refunded. They aim and highlight when games are brigaded.

>Operate Steam with extreme hypocrisy, abandoning human-powered moderation for things being put on the platform except for their own games or threatening 2d game developers over uncensor patches while allowing other games like Outcast 2 to have bloodied, visible genitalia.
Dont put cunny in your game dont get banned. simple as

>Integrated the use of the horrible anti-consumer scam DRM Denuvo into Steamworks despite the CEO citing piracy as a non-issue.
Devs choice

>Banned all avenues of downloading mods outside of the dysfunctional Steam Workshop. This was done as an attack on their competitors (GOG, etc) that usually got some mods this way but this has also crippled things for server owners and even regular users that want to stop mods from updating (and breaking) themselves which can't be disabled.
Dont buy steam game dont get steam mods? Sounds fair to me

I don't use Steam because I don't support Sweet Baby Inc

>>714478512
>4 results found.
and your point?

>>714478453
Imagine being a coward who replies to the OG post while my reply goes without a response
(Because Steam killed NONE of those things)
>>714475517

>>714477804
pc gaming died in 2005-2006 while steam only got popular in 2011

>>714478667
So it's a pasta, and you're just getting started. Nobody reads those books, schizo.

>>714478565
Yes anon Minecraft has a lot of port to other system, but sure lets play your game.

League of Legend

>>714478738
>League of Legend
now wheres your source on their daily active player count in 2025

>>714476095
>Ana Valens
posting an article written by an insane tranny that wants to put women in camps where they're forced to breed with penis having trannies isn't very convincing

>>714478734
and i have to reformat that shit everytime when one of you steamdrones make a bad faith argument in chinese cartoon discussion forums because?

>>714478201
No they aren't, look up what they've been doing to fan mods recently (despite their entire company being built on stealing work from modders)

>>714469423
>StarForce
>GFWL
exist thanks to valve giving publishers ideas
>securom
no games used it before steam came out

>>714478839
There's no point in pasting it, because nobody's going to read a reddit-spaced schizo rant that's longer than moot's penis (the post is approximately 4 inches on my monitor).

>>714478340
>Willing...
they also have an option to outright disable seeing fag games ever again and they're literally telling you what games have fag shit without you even needing to look at them
also nice copypasta with a nonexistent hyperlink retard

>Helped...
maybe don't play shit that has it? do you really feel FOTMed by seeing cosmetic shit? are you really that fucking weak?

>Engages...
>why aren't you allowing devs to positively review bomb their games?

>Operate...
fair but then again literally everyone does that

>Integrated...
yeah, why aren't they strongarming devs instead of letting them make retarded mistakes of their own volition

>Banned...
what the actual fuck are you talking about? skyrim? hello?

>>714478906
>fan mod is just a cs clone using cs assets and engine
>this would not be good for cs2

Gee I wonder why they wouldn't allow it

>>714477978
What kind of weird retardation is that? Why would you want to buy it on Steam if you don't want to use Steam or have an account on Steam? Buy it on something else. This is full retard.

>>714478790
Riots launcher, which is just a lol launcher has more users than all of steam

>>714478906
>why aren't you letting me fork a game you own the rights to and are updating

honestly i'm only a fan of internet service monopolies if the company in question is

privately held and behaves somewhat neutrally (not good or bad)

gaming fragmenting like online streaming services is just retarded, i much rather have spotify and steam regardless if they hold a monopoly

>>714479042
>it's ok when valve does it

>>714478613
>Dont buy steam game dont get steam mods? Sounds fair to me
It's not Steam's game to decide where the mods come from. They can fuck off.

>>714479140
>Steam is estimated to have 120 million monthly users
Source.
Wait, you don't have one

>>714478793
>I recognise the name of that deranged tranny!
Does it ever fucking end...

>>714478984
There's 2 securoms. There was a passive one that was just a disk check with intentional bad sectors in specific locations (like cdilla and safedisc). The shitty intrusive one came after Starforce, I believe. They saw Starforce as a success because it was such a bitch to circumvent, and wanted to catch up.
KotoR 1 and 2 are both examples of passive SecuROM.
>>714479203
Source mods can be installed manually, but most are distributed through Steam since everyone playing those games has it anyway (and it's easier/safer).

>>714477978
>why doesn't valve waste time building another guest one time checkout for schizos that are perpetually butthurt against them and would pirate anyway?

>>714479020
>make a short statement
proof?
>make a detailed statement
i'm not reading that

there is no winning with you bad faith posters

All anti steam argument boil down to
>Ok but what if hypothetical of steam taking away everyone's games happened
and then pretending like the entire industry wouldn't collapse in on itself due to rampant piracy
You think valve is willing to motivate the average consumer to figure out how to pirate? Because that's the assumption of your argument. They aren't going to kill the goose that lays golden eggs just to make chicken nuggies retard

>>714479203
>Banned all avenues of downloading mods outside of the dysfunctional Steam Workshop. This was done as an attack on their competitors (GOG, etc) that usually got some mods this way but this has also crippled things for server owners and even regular users that want to stop mods from updating (and breaking) themselves which can't be disabled.

That's weird because I've modded plenty of my Steam games with mods off of the Steam workshop. In fact most of the mods for games I play come off the Steam Workshop, so I am not sure what you could possibly be referencing here

>>714479203
Steam doesn't decide where mods come from. You can install them from wherever the fuck you want.

>>714479343
No I don't want to use a DRM service that works with Sweet Baby Inc, has some of the most woke devs in the industry and sells my Data

>>714479535
>valve is... le woke
yeah, remember when they completely ignored all the leftoids wanting them to support nigger riots years ago? oh wait, you were still learning to read back then

>>714479283
only because its a particularly loud one that's very vocal in its faggot journalistic circles at vice but also horrible at opsec so all of its degeneracy is very out in the open
said breeding farm fantasy was just posted on its twitter for all to see during a twitterspace or whatever they're called
iirc its currently privating everything after getting shit on for just making up shit about some vtuber that was sponsored by a video game

>>714479643
>bought out the wokest game studio in existance (Campo santo)
>donates money to democrats
>bans anime game on Steam because it's "problematic with anime boobs" while allowing gay furry bara porn
>started the "desexualization" woke trend before it was even a thing
>works with fucking SWEET BABY INC
>their company is one of the most diverse studios out there, the VP is an indian
>LGBT+ sales and more
>cancel people over #metoo bullshit

>yeah, remember when they completely ignored all the leftoids wanting them to support nigger riots years ago?
See pic

Want me to go on?

>>714479934
>I'm not crazy
>posts an image with a fuckton of text like a crazy person would

>>714479990
>tweets
>fuckton of text
learn to read saaar

>>714479934
>no you see an individual employee equals the whole company releasing a pr statement about niggers

>>714480050
>nooo they just bought the extremist leftist studio for fun and hired a single dev with extremist views for fun chud!

>>714480176
>you should only ever hire someone if you 100% agree with them politically

>>714480247
yes anon if you hire someone that's an outspoken Nazi you are probably a nazi.

>saved gaming

>>714480036
I'm not reading that pic.
>>714480398
But since "Nazi" just means "doesn't support sex changes for infants," hiring Nazis seems like the thing to do.

>>714480398
>your talents don't matter, only your views
go outside for once holy fuck

>>714480517
Nobody cares about China. Black Men Wuzkangs was a flop.

>>714467308 (OP)
EGS ruined pc gaming

>>714480707
but it's literally dying and chinks are itching to take timmy out the back and shoot him for wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on something that still isn't making money

>Using steam
why do you guys support Sweet Baby Inc?

>>714480885
TWO MORE WEEKS SAAR AND IT WILL DIE!

the woke right loves Valve

>>714480890
SBI only works on games. Valve doesn't make games, so they're trolling SBI.

>>714481050
>anti steam jeet is pro epic
lmao
timmy went from completely buying out games to begging devs to please come to his garage sale we'll take a 0% cut
the money is clearly drying up

>>714478373
>COPE
?

>>714480398
>you are probably a nazi
Probably?

>>714481181
>anti steam jeet
>>714480036
Anon, Steam IS the jeet store.

>>714481181
Not him but I prefer the level of curation epic has on their store, it feels like steam did 15 years ago.

>>714481193
Hey, Cyrex.

>>714467552
>another zoomer larping about the "good old days" he wasn't even alive for
What is wrong with your generation? Seriously?

>>714481564
>zoomers weren't using PCs in 2010
We're literally 30 retard

>>714479934
>a tech company doesn't support my Klan bullshit
So, a positive? Hey, why not just install the bible belt game shop platform for Klan games... oh wait, that's right

>>714481275
are you going to pretend that epic users aren't just third worlders and zoomers that go there for free games everyone else already bought?

>>714467308 (OP)
Were you even alive before Steam was operating? They were grim times.

>>714481676
Show me some of the indian devs working on epic.
The fucking vice president of Valve is indian for gods sake.

>>714481610
I switched to Steam in 2007, and it was dominant. The writing was on the wall for physical games even then. The heyday of all the bullshit was the mid 90s through the mid 2000s.
>downloading patches from 3dfxmania.com (which became 3dfiles.com)
Fuck all that.

>>714481793
So basically yet another thing KEKllennials blame zoomers for? Why are you faggots allergic to accountability?

>>714481740
you do realise this is public information right

>>714482263
>nonsensical response
SIR
DO
YOU
SPEAK
AMERICAN?

>>714481793
Well I remember the GameSpy shutdown and having to patch Halo CE and BF2 to keep playing them. My copies of Mass Effect and Dragon Age required getting patches from EA's site. Steam wasn't all encompassing until the 2010s.

>>714482540
Yeah, but around 2007 was when everything started becoming available on Steam, and then 2010ish was where they looked at the sales and wondered why they were gambling on boxes and discs when they could pay fees only on actual sales.

>>714482440
Stop blaming the world because you're a failure to launch, fat, insufferable 40 year old virgin. That's all you need to understand, gramps.

>>714483416
>suddenly, the undercover cool guy on the nerd forum reveals himself, advertising hominy grits

I love Valve but I wish they'd stop trying to chase another multiplayer microtransaction cash cow.
Dota2 was a rare fluke, maybe a once in a 50 year fluke.
The next 'innovation' isn't going to happen with games, just like the next innovation won't be a repeat of Steam's origin story of digital distribution, because now digital distribution is commonplace.
They should just dedicate a small team to periodically releasing single-player coop games, I guess something like Halflife: Alyx but not under a gimmick peripheral most people can't afford.

>>714467308 (OP)
>>714467867
>thanking him for completely destroying game ownership on pc
Game ownership was going to disappear one way or another. Digital distribution was a pan-industry trend. We were lucky Valve won out and not any other company.

>>714475292
Stupid underage zoomer

>>714475823
Europe is an irrelevant market, Steam saved PC Gaming in America which is what matters.

>Steam bad thread
>"but why is it bad?"
>...

There's no point to these. The contrarian argument is basically nonexistent or reliant on "muh monopolies" which doesn't hold up.

>>714467867
>NOOOOOOOOO you don't own your games because... because you can't resell it
seethe
i'd rather have an infinite copy and so would pretty much everyone who actually likes games they buy and isn't poor enough to the point where they'd earn more money selling games than actually working

>>714467308 (OP)
*creates linux gaming*

>>714484115
It's because of the DRM, so use Epic (saar) which has functionally identical DRM, because it's good when the saars who pay me do it.

>>714479934
Steam is the only reason anime games got popular on PC.

>>714484115
It's bad because it destroyed game ownership on PC

>>714484330
LMAO

>>714484360
Can't own shit if PC is a dead platform you dumb nigga.

>>714468441
Room-Fags are everywhere these days, anon.
Especially in America where they have to share space with 5 other people who can barely afford rent.

>>714484379

>>714484360
"Ownership" is this vague concept that doesn't mean anything.
>it means I have my games and they can't take them
I have that as well. It's called piracy.

>>714484429

>>714484493
>>714484429
>>714484379
Now post these games being popular on PC before Steam
oh wait

>>714484451
I can still put my copy of Morrowind from 20 years ago into any PC with a DVD drive and it'll install. Good luck doing that when Steam arbitrarily decides it won't support your setup.

>>714484360
How many (non Blizzard) physical PC games do you still own, homie? Like seriously take a picture of your collection, at best it's a stack of jewel cases with CD-ROMs that can't be read on modern systems. You have to buy a Chinese USB CD drive off Amazon just to read them, that's assuming time hasn't flaked off a tiny piece of silicon making it unreadable.

>>714484669
Why would Steam stop supporting my setup when I upgrade regularly? I play games, so I like modern hardware.

>>714467308 (OP)
NOOOO NOOOO NOT THE 50% OFF SALE!!??!!!! DONT DO THIS TO ME HOW CAN YOU SELL ME A GAME FOR 75% OFF??? FUCKING STEAM RUINING GAMING

>>714484379
Oh no pedo slop wont be released on steam. what an absolute travesty. looks like a real high quality title too ;)

>>714485429
>newfag hates anime and worships valve
makes sense

>>714485509
newfag as in been here since '08? guilty as charged

Why are piratetrannies so mad today?

>>714485509
I've been here since the site launched in 2016, and I don't care about ahneem porn.

>>714467308 (OP)
>*ruins pc gaming*

>>714475164
This
I'm so fucking sick of people treating Steam DRM like the ultimate big bad that's on par with Denuvo when it's the easiest fucking thing to deal with.

>>714484534
DT2 was a Vita exclusive that had a small cult following. It wasn't Undertale levels of popular but to say nobody gave a shit about it prior is bullshit.
>>714485429
Steam is A-OK with zoophile titles though, it's a staple of the west and western gaming! ;D

That’s not the Xbox tho

>>714467552
Based. Fuck niggers who play video games because they are pussy ass invaders who get mogged by white bois in the streets

>>714467308 (OP)
GoG is right there though. it's not perfect (some games have DRM for online) but it's there

>>714467552
>>714467658
>Yes I would rather download patches from websites. Yes I would rather buy physical boxes of pc games. Yes I would rather use websites with community forums. Yes I would rather visit fan pages for mods. Yes I would rather find outside ways to communicate with my squad mates.
>Yes I would like to filter third worlders and zoomers by doing all of the above.
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYY you fucking anti-semite. take this post down!

>>714467552
“An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity, a physicist tries to make it simple, for an idiot anything the more complicated it is the more he will admire it, if you make something so clusterfucked he can't understand it he's gonna think you're a god cause you made it so complicated nobody can understand it. That's how they write journals in Academics, they try to make it so complicated people think you're a genius”
― Terry Davis, Creator of Temple OS

>>714488509
I use GoG but $team has much better deals.
GoG was also late with their mod-workshop the best feature of $team IMO.

>>714488646
Based Terry poster.

>>714488801
GoG also releases games much later if it's not a big name hyped up title of some sort. DLC for a game I like was released like a couple of days early on Steam, before GoG. Hated it because my copy of the game was on GoG.

>>714486483
>haha wouldnt it be funny if i fucked a BEAR
is not equivalent to
>haha wouldnt it be funny if i fucked a CHILD

ones ridiculous to the point of funny. one indicates youre pedo scum trying to hide behind freedom of expression/irony

>>714488946
Couple of days is not bad, but often it's much longer than that.
This also applies for patches.
But I like not having to deal with auto-patching, if it's not broken don't try to fix it.

>mfw I remember PC gaming in the late 90s/early 2000s.
>shitty boring buggy wargames/strategy games by the assload, none of which I care about
>ugly buggy early polygonal shit requiring ridiculous fiddly setup to play
>All the ancient DOS games you want, I guess
>Said fuck this shit. Consoles offered more varied and interesting experiences, unironically, so I bought 'em all and had a blast
It's soooo much better now with Steam, it's not even funny, and now the consoles are the ones drying up in terms of variety. All the weird indie games popping up for dirt cheap, some of them fresh riffs on old favorites. All the big companies publishing on Steam, constant cheap bundles spinkled liberally with gems, and the Steam forums are full of tips and tricks on how to run old stuff like Dark Messiah. You can get newer stuff on sale for PEANUTS without worrying about viruses raping the rectum out of your digital life and leaving a gummy prolapsed shit-tail.

Steam forever, baby, all my games in one place. If I want to get weirder or older, I GOG or Itch.

>>714475823
>he hasn't tried to download 157 MBs of game over dial up only for it to fail during a powercut at night

>>714489228
>Acts like super young girls aren't universally appealing, sexually and aesthetically
Way to fucking lie, you disingenuous virtue signaling white knight nigger. Opinion discarded.

>>714489228
it was an lgbtranny stunt. if the bear had been female every single journo on the internet would have flipped his shit collectively
stop defending double standards. the industry is rotten to the core

>>714489576
Young girls (16 and above) are more appealing.
Your anigays portray girls that look like theyre 8

>>714489783
8 may be a bit young, but they sure as hell look good well before 16. I'll just say it.

>>714467552
>y-youre a troon
>meanwhile here's all this shit I do that only a mentally ill tranny zoomer with false "old internet nostalgia" would do
Yeah kill yourself unc

>>714467308 (OP)
is there even a way to burn games from steam onto a disk? THAT would be based

>>714490195
https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/
everything that doesn't have other types of drm and isn't an online game that relies on steamworks or some central server can be turned into an offline game that never asks for steam

We all know Steam is king. Who actually hates it? Some old faggot with a dusty collection of buggy 3.5" floppy games in-box? Shills for Microsoft's would-be DRM-soaked bullshit travesty of a storefront? Bitter partisans for Timmy's failed E-shop? Hell, you can even MOD Steam games.

>>714484935
The point is about ownership, you don't truly own your game if Valve is dictating how you're allowed to use it.

>>714476920
I know I could get games for free, but I'm neither poor nor a nigger, so I'd rather pay to get a superior experience.

>>714467308 (OP)
Whoops haha I meant SAVED PC gaming from microjew cancer, sorry typo.

>>714467552
They hated him because he told the truth.

>>714490894
Oh yeah, because everybody has room for a billion pieces of cardboard and plastic in their ever-shrinking domiciles, eh? Because everybody who enjoys lots and lots of media must needs build a jangled mountain of bitrotted trash out of proper worshipfulness to the principle of "true ownership."

Keep fighting for your platonic principles and your epic junk hoard, my guy.

>>714491313
>domiciles
It's a home you pretentious faggot.

>>714491374
A home full of fucking trash with a mole tunnel to the shitter, maybe.

>>714491313
GOG exists so it's not like this has to be tied to physical copies

>>714490954
>launcher bound own nothing drm up in ass buyfag cuck
>superior experience.

>>714467308 (OP)
rabbi newelstein rubbing his hands together.png. gaymers are the biggest retard consoomers to ever graze this earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgysRim_zT4&t=3s

>>714491684
Never heard of shelves?

>>714491743
GOG itself may one day die. But oh! You can download every little thing and back it up on carefully labelled SD Cards, I guess, with a hard copy index to remind you what's where? Just to say you actually own it, naturally!

Listen, we're not here forever, and there's no point in everybody wasting their lives in backing up and worrying about every tiny piece of media that exists. If it's that important to gaming posterity, some weirdo in Siberia will have a dozen copies locked up in a vault for the digital archeologists to ponder over.

For now? Enjoy the cheapness, the convenience, the relative stability of Steam and play your games NOW. Dedicating yourself to the preservation of media over the present enjoyment and discussion of it is a soul-deadening path for most hobbyists.

>>714492519
/thread

>>714492519
I feel like you're missing the point, I'm not interested in the physical object, moreso the fact that after purchase the software is mine to do as I please with. I can run GOG games however I want and they aren't locked behind DRM that changes it's system requirements every few years irrespective of the game's compatibility.

>Valve's reported profit-per-head from Steam commissions is out there, and at $3.5 million per employee it makes Apple and Facebook look like a lemonade stand

Hahahaaha, holy fuck wait I finally know who is behind the anti-Steam shilling campaign

big tech has to be pissed he fucking won

>>714467658
If anything it's the first worlders who get filtered naturally and Steam enabled them

>>714492965
Without the option for at least a nominal DRM, your store stays small, because the attraction is limited for even mid-sized publishers. Steam has gravity. It attracts everyone and everything with its Jovian pull.

>>714493158
This guy gets it. Back in the days of mega poverty I'd jump through all the hoops to get access to any video games. Now that I'm not afflicted with it, I'll only jump through hoops if the game is unusually valuable to me.

>>714484176
The funny thing is that steam DRM is a checkbox that a dev can choose to not use. There's a ton of games you can download that boot just fine without steam even running.

>>714491863
>Steam input
>Cloud saves
>Proton
>Guides
>Big picture mode
>Et fucking cetera
I'd call that a superior experience. And sure, most of those work without buying the game on Steam, but, as mentioned above, I'm not a nigger and thus I'm okay with supporting Valve so those features continue to exist.

>>714493953
Everything you mentions sucks tho except for cloud saves.

There are all kinds of things people interpose between themselves and their supposed hobbies.

>Once I get a big enough collection of books, I'll finally start reading them seriously!
>Once I collect enough games, I'll finally start enjoying them!
>Once I can find a solution to my accumulation of media that ACTUALLY affords a moral solution to the ownership issue, that's when the fruits of the hobby are MINE AT LAST!

In truth, they're all just little shuffling librarians obsessed with the highest META of their hobby, its sorting and organization. Arguing with other librarians, adjusting their shawls and their little round glasses, sneezing in the dust from their card (or TARD) catalogues.

>>714477703
>Imagine installing a modern game off disc. That'd be ungodly.
It wouldn't be a big deal if they'd knock it off with the photo realistic graphics no one ever asked for.

>>714467308 (OP)
>*ruins gaming*
FIFY

>>714467867
I don't think you get it. I buy games on Steam for convenience. I press a single button and everything just works, all my saves are backed up automatically. And the games are cheap too. I used to be a physical only fag but that was killed before Steam and consoles killed it too, it just took them longer.

>>714494379
Apt analysis. Not having a hobby, but consuming media and gear about it.

>>714494572
The gear is part of the hobby, same as cars, photography etc. Gaming just has a high proportion of poorfags that can't afford anything.

>>714494882
Wrong. Even a dirt farmer in Venezuela can afford to play some awesome games, some of the greatest games, as long as he doesn't fall into the trap of pining over ULTIMATE MODERN GRAFX. Who needs realistic peach fuzz anyway, when a nearly full range of artistic expression flowered on the venerable PS2? When the funnest and snappiest games of the current year were put together by small gaggles of autistics -- or even individuals -- in basements?

Furthermore, who needs infinite mountains of physical shit when it's stored on the Internet for you?

>>714467308 (OP)
i fight back by using the EPIC store
thanks Tim!

>>714494512
NTA but Digital Only was going to be a thing publishers chose to do on PC the minute hard drive space was no longer a premium like it used to be and bandwith speeds increased.

>>714495338
Usually he'd be doing those on burned CDs, the same thing you're crying about in the post above.

>>714494892
Sure. Steam is great, a respected, consumer-friendly, hyper-successful model that has never been matched in its sphere. It also has fewer employees than any of those other, with their huge media production arms and panopticon censorship apparatuses. Needless to say, they don't keep very man sensitivity officers on staff.

>>714495385
That client makes me do too many TFAs

>>714467308 (OP)
You'd still be able to own your games on physical media if you didn't copy that floppy in the 90s.

>>714467552
You've literally given up your consumer rights to a corporation and you don't evrn know it. So, what happens when Gabe Newell one day decides to turn off Steam? Because he can literally do that. Your entire gaming library operates on gentleman's agreement from Steam that they won't fuck you over.

>>714495535
>burned CDs
When even an Andaman Islander probably has a fucking tablet with Starlink Internet? CDs are already relics, grandpa. They're only viable in your fantasies.

I remember hating steam because it made games have DRM

>>714468352
>burn denuvo game onto a disc
>denuvo is still there
So that was a lie.

>>714469607
>you mean like 0.1% of games
Why would he mean that when the real number is way, way higher? Why are you such a liar? A goalpost moving one at that.

>>714474886
>>714475603
There are plenty of people with 1k games in their steam library in this very thread.

>>714476641
I think it's mostly one anti pc schizo. You can recognize him because he keeps trying to force really awkward sounding insults.

>>714474201
>>Ye olde retard Boomer thread
If those people were actually old enough to have been there they wouldn't be wrong about every single thing they are saying.

>>714478090
>they say stuff just like the jews
Wow, linking something to them is a killshot. Now nobody can disagree with you anymore.

>>714496204
anti steam is not anti pc, steam killed the pc and turned it into another console

>>714484669
If I want to play Morrowind right now I can do that. Steam could be down and I would still be able to play the game - in less time than it would take you to find your plastic disc.
I also know that your plastic disc doesn't have any magic on it. So if a game is unplayable in its digital form its also unplayable on your CD. "Ask the Crew". It turns out that data is a bunch of 0s and 1s, no matter if it's on a hard drive or a bluray.

>>714495726
How? With a gun? If it's all by Valve's design then why are all those big companies using way more aggressive forms of DRM than Valve is?

>>714496646
Now try installing your copy of the game without Steam. If you say >just pirate then good job proving my point.

>>714479203
What are you talking about? I think I used the workshop to install mods only once.

>>714495672
There was no other possible alternative.
It was going to be Steam, EA platform, Windows platform, gamespy, Blizzard platform etc. Steam was the best option and the option we got.

>>714467552
>Yes I would rather find outside ways to communicate with my squad mates. Yes you’re trans.
you fucked up, these go hand-in-hand
IGC remains king

>>714478613
>unjustifiable 30% cut
They do everything for you. You just fill your tax report.

>>714467552
Am I supposed to care that steam """ruined""" pc gaming for (You)?