https://danieltan.weblog.lol/2025/07/stop-killing-games-and-the-eu-when-activism-meets-legal-reality

>>714467783 (OP)
>Reposting Thor's tweets.
Its all so tiresome...

>Countries with fair use or fair dealing doctrines (like the US, Canada, and UK) have provisions to cover the preservation of games via modding and emulation
So it was a nothing burger all along and all the games are still available in the US. Phew.

>>714467783 (OP)
>Burgers are going to spend freedom day crying about this
Based EU!

>>714467947
Isn't that what the 4th is to begin with? Just crying about England in the form of celebrating the signing of a document?

>>714467783 (OP)
>ackshully current law allows corpos to fuck your ass
>i guess SKG is fucked and stupid, because current law says so!
>what do you mean, just change the law? YOU CAN'T DO THAT!

>>714468226
Its not just that, its also a celebration about seizing land from the injuns.

>>714468424
Ah yes, can't forget about that.

>>714468361
it's like that's the point of this initiative, change something

>>714467783 (OP)
What part of this makes it impossible to preserve video games as an enforced industry standard? You don't have to rewrite copyright law to do it. Even Ross admits that there'll probably be concessions if it passes but the only thing unfeasible about such a regulation is implementing it in games that aren't developed with it in mind.
As it stands the blog is crying about ownership, not thinking about the fact that being able to take away a full price purchase from you for any or no reason (blizzard) or forcing you to destroy shit you bought with zero recourse (ubisoft) is unfair to the consumer and you could remedy that with simple and workable product regulations.

>>714468361
Whoever typed that up missed an opportunity to jam in ''I'M A SUPER HACKER I WORKED AT BLIZZARD'

>>714468594
>filename

>>714467783 (OP)
>look at the titles of the other articles
>all about AIslop
opinion discarded stay on your shitty blog

>>714467783 (OP)
You can't just try to make your government change the law!

>>714468226
No, it's a day about hot dogs, hamburgers, and fireworks. We also laugh at England and tea. The only reason Americans cry about England is seeing the disaster it's become when rapists get off because of Islam and their skin color while white people get thrown in jail for years because they said something mean one time on the internet.

>>714468361
>Tibet
He would never piss off his Chinese Commie Overlords by mentioning it as it's own place.

>>714467937
This has nothing to do with always-online games being taken down, though. If an always-online game has Denuvo and gets taken down, it would have to be cracked to preserve it and that's illegal in those countries.

>>714467783 (OP)
why were game journalists silent about this whole thing?
they could have easily turned this into Gamergate 2.0 and dramatically killed the entire movement, instead they left one youtuber and the single point of failure for the entire opposition.

>>714467783 (OP)
>Countries with fair use or fair dealing doctrines (like the US, Canada, and UK) have provisions to cover the preservation of games via modding and emulation.
How do I play the crew?

>>714468812
Gaming journos are concerned about women having big titties in games, not about having said games be offline forever.

>>714468648
That guy seems to be run of the mill lolbertarian
>just vote with your wallet bro
> just make your own server infrastructure bro

>>714468812
>they could have easily turned this into Gamergate 2.0
not really? Gamergate was about social issues from the beginning, this never was.

>>714467783 (OP)
kek, fucking knew journos will start with this shit once the threshold is met.

>>714467783 (OP)
This entire article is just rage bait. It has to be

>>714467947
what haven't they been crying about recently?

>>714467783 (OP)
If current law covers everything then what's the actionable way to get The Crew running? Bang your head against the wall for years hoping to piece together a working bypass like the guys trying to revive Darkspore?

>>714469041
Dunno why they would be crying. tTrump just passed the BBB

>>714469051
Probably. We're hoping that devs will just be kind enough to drop server code or at least wont face legal backlash for doing so. Sadly the movement isn't retroactive so some games may just be lost media at this point. btw did any other anons play a game called Nanovor? That was my first taste of an always online game dying.

>>714469103
I’d be crying too if a bill passed that’s going to fuck me in the ass

>>714467783 (OP)
Americans just can't accept the reality of the situation

>>714469051
Just purchase the rights and hire people to restart it?
Fucking poor people always begging the government to do things when all the tools are available to them.

>>714467783 (OP)
i too think you shouldn't even try

>>714469223
If I had that money I'd just lobby to fuck over the corporation instead with it.

>government overreach
it's actually hilariously deranged that Americans have been convinced that the government protecting THEIR rights is overreach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bgoezd6Q2M&list=RD1Bgoezd6Q2M

>>714467783 (OP)
>Software developer talks about law.
Yeah, Sorry, I don't believe you.
There's a sort of 'bandwidth' issue with certain cross domain stuff. Polyglots exist, yes, but I've never known a Software Engineer who could accurately explain how the law works or explain why certain cases turned out like they did.

>>714467783 (OP)
Who the fuck is Daniel Tan?

>What SKG is asking for isn’t consumer protection—it’s a fundamental rewriting of intellectual property law, contract law, and the entire legal hierarchy that governs digital commerce. They want consumer convenience to override copyright protection, which is legally impossible under EU jurisprudence.
>a fundamental rewriting of intellectual property law
Whole man, no need to convince me, I already support it!

>>714469379
Just anarchists and LOLbertarians.

>>714469387
kino everytime

>>714467783 (OP)
Shills will be next on the cross once we get to nail down the game publishers.

>>714469387
I left wow on cataclysm... Did Dire maul became a raid or something? I remember it was a 5-man party..

>>714468812
Because
1. The industry ordered them to not give coverage, as anyone with a working brain would immediately agree.
2. They never recovered from the first round and are a perpetual laughing stock, any attempt to be the face of opposition would backfire horrendously.

>>714469379
The running theme is that all government regulation is bad but it basically ignores the fact that corporations will lobby for you having no rights and regulatory capture anyway. For some reason the morally correct thing to do is to do nothing and not counter lobby because how dare you try to use the government to your advantage.

>>714469881
imagine if Americans realized corporations were just mini-governments with less meritocracy and more nepotism

>>714468361
>what do you mean, just change the law? YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
Getting real "you can't change a constitution!" vibes off this.

>>714469207
The only people crying about it are bureaucrats and the people/companies who depend on gibs

Why are random bloggers trying to play the EU Commissions role?
The Commission is required to respond to an initiative with a million valid signatures and they can determine it's already covered by existing laws or would be incompatible with the treaties (constitution) as they have done in the past. Then it's up to the EU Parliament and EU Council to pass it into law.

>>714467783 (OP)
This has fucking nothing to do with DRM why are these people so stupid

>>714469513
Just some chink.
https://profile.omg.lol/danieltan
https://dev.to/danieltanfh95

>>714467783 (OP)
Literally who?

>>714470107
If a game depends on a first party DRM server and the company shuts it down it absolutely has to do with DRM.
The question will be how third party servers are handled.

>>714470253
>Singapore

>>714468226
I can't believe they let the government change the law like that, fucking commie bastards

>>714470094
Nobody has kicked their teeth in and made them realize that they have expertise in a very narrow field. A farmer might know about servers because they set up their automated irrigation systems, which is sometimes going to be really hard chink in the pride of a backend dev. There are a lot of people in the EU parliament that have STEM degrees, and devs don't know enough about the real world to realize that.

>>714469852
It's WoW Classic Hardcore, so if they die during the dungeon, they die forever. They were gearing up to do the Raid Hardcore. Pirate ditched his team when they fucked up a pull. He was a frost mage and was talking all about how they're the hero class and they save everyone. The moment he was needed, he panicked and ran away.

https://youtu.be/u0pJjp4UkFA?si=bEAW-ospQnf0D3cw&t=204

>>714467783 (OP)
>get 1 milly signatures
>jews kvetch
>europeistan union declares 99% are fake
>skg tossed in the garbage
it's their world, you're just living in it.

What a retarded article. He's essentially acting as if current law is immutable and trying to paint the people asking for things to change as bad and uneducated.

>>714467947
>he posts excitedly while thinking of USA nonstop
lol

>>714469881
Yeah, at best you might get someone who is like
>yeah that's bad...and I don't want to make it worse!
Which you'd think is just an appeal to the status quo, but what it actually means is that you just make it easier and easier for corporations to continue raping you.

They're just obnoxious fags who think they're eventually going to become a corpo and reap the benefits.

>>714467783 (OP)
Why can't people just fucking understand this shit.
This has fucking NOTHING to do with DRM goddamn it. A game could keep Denuvo on forever if they wanted, it wouldn't matter as long as I can fucking play it. The issue is the game having to connect to a server once it's on, like the Crew or Diablo 3, or games that are online only without a single player option like Overwatch. The DRM itself is irrelevant. What matters is games not phoning home to a server for single player, or having single player AT ALL dev'd in.

>>714470932
>The DRM itself is irrelevant
it's not if for some reason Irdeto goes under, thus rending the Denuvo servers permanently offline.

Meanwhile at the EU parliament

>Reichkansler Machiavelli, you are presenting ze STOPKILLINGGAMES proposal?
>Yes honorable member of the house of commerce. Please, if I may have everyones atten-
>DENIED
>Ayieeeeeeeee! Pasta la vista hombres *ACK!*

>>714467853
>Reposting Thor's tweets.
>Its all so tiresome...
its thor himself, he lurks on the threads to try and sabotage SKG, and now, to cope with loss.
he was here yesterday

>>714470932
>SKG isn't about the explicit purposes outlined by its creator, it's about whatever bullshit I think it is

>>714467783 (OP)
>legal-reality
thats why it needs to change

>>714468812
Game journos are too busy trying to stay alive and keep the management at bay from replacing them with AI for them to care about this.

>>714468812
there are none left

>>714468812
I'm already starting to see a few articles comparing SKG to Gamergate now that it actually passed 1 million.
I think it really is over for the movement.

>The movement is essentially asking for rights that don’t exist while ignoring the extensive protections that already do.
This is actually painfully stupid as a line. A very much desired outcome would be if EU clarified existing legislation to utilize this protection. It's a guy that didn't bother to check the basics but still feels strongly about the subject. I think everyone does that mistake once in a while but everyone should avoid doing that.

>>714470932
if all drm gets flushed into toiled along with it, even better

>>714471123
what a fucking slip up lmao wish i was there

>>714468424
Found the deranged white-hating racist

>>714470997
In that scenario they'd have to remove the DRM regardless for separate reasons.
>>714471163
>SKG is about what I say it is
This isn't what you want it to be no matter how much you meme.
The ONLY THING SKG outlines is that games need to remain playable after EOS. Nothing else is demanded because it isn't requesting specific legislation, that would then be the parliament's job.

>I find it ultimately ironic that the reason why Stop Killing Games has to exist in the first place is EU laws. Countries with fair use or fair dealing doctrines (like the US, Canada, and UK) have provisions to cover the preservation of games via modding and emulation.
This is just the first paragraph and it already sounds like an idiot who doesn't actually play or even follow news of video games. And the rest of the article reads like all those "Actually, it's impossible for consumers to host servers because microservices and containers..." arguments that do nothing but try to obfuscate the issue even though there are living examples that prove them wrong. This chink has no idea what he's talking about.

>>714468812
>Why did Communist journos not sabotage a communist initiative
Are you retarded?

>>714467783 (OP)
>Nooo you can't do this because it's against this nebulous and ill conceived law!
>What? Change the law? B-b-but... That's... you just can't OK?
You people are some of the world's most boiled frogs, you have no idea that the shitty way things are can just be changed if you simply stop accepting it.

>>714467783 (OP)
>weblog.lol
Moot was right. You HAVE to go back

>>714468812
Honestly I think it just happen to fast for them to react, the drama video from two weeks ago was too lowbrown for them to deal with but once it pick ip full steam two weeks it was already too late to stop it.

>>714468885
>building preservation tools as a community
But can't companies sue you if you do that and take down what you built?

>>714471637
It's especially hilarious considering some EU countries have looser copyright standards than the US. There's countries where you can make an adaptation and show the middle finger to the original author.

>>714471884
Yes. See: Nostralius.

>>714468812
There have been a handful that covered it, but yeah. Given how much buzz it's generating, journalists have been deafingly silent in comparison.

>>714467783 (OP)
Ok

>>714471846
It helped that supposedly, the movement was floundering. They probably thought nothing of it until the sudden spike of interest in the last few days. By then, the movement had already passed the required threshold and then some. Still though, the silence from the media is still weird despite everything.

>>714467783 (OP)
SKG will never pass because of the extra burden it will place on the indie developer community.
>Many marginalized developers—whether part of the LGBTQ+ community or working in underrepresented racial or ethnic groups—operate in environments already strained by limited resources, smaller teams, and systemic barriers to funding.
>“If these proposals become law without nuance,” said one Zurich-based queer indie dev who wished to remain anonymous, “we could be forced to release server code or build fallback systems we don’t have the budget for. Larger studios might weather that. We can’t.”

>>714469387
don't like this kind of music

>>714467783 (OP)
ah, i see the gaming lobby is already preparing to fight this, huh?

>>714472135
What indie dev has a large multiplayer game. I can not think of one.

With all the studios closing and now the threat of SKG....lets hope this kills games for good. Amen

>>714472135
>we don't have the budget to release server code
Huh

>>714472135
>said one Zurich-based queer
stopped reading there
should have started with that

>>714472135
>the extra burden it will place on the indie developer community
There is like no extra burden on indie devs whatsoever. Because indie devs have no need for planned obsolescence and don't benefit from it.
It's actually more work than not to make a game that doesn't comply with SKG than to make a game that does. Online games pretty much comply with SKG by default. It requires extra steps to surgically remove LAN options and whatever else.

>>714472283
the poor indie devs have to budget to make server code in order to release it

>>714472135
lmao
It really is insane that people seriously think this will hurt indie developers.

>>714472135
When's the last fucking time indie devs even DID MMOs or online only vidya like hero shooters for fucks sake?

Pirate will win
SKG will lose
It's already decided

>>714472135
>“we could be forced to release server code or build fallback systems we don’t have the budget for. Larger studios might weather that. We can’t.”
You can just let the players host the servers. It's cheaper than having an external online server. Fuck. In the alpha and pre-alpha days of Minecraft, long before Microsoft purchased Mojang, the only way to play the game was through peer to peer locally hosted servers.

>>714472335
I'm going to go further. If there's an indie dev scummy enough that this impacts them, GOOD. Fuck them. It's good for everyone that their career was nipped in the bud.

>>714472317
>>714472335
Prepare for more articles like these over the next few weeks, the gaming media wants SKG fucking dead.

>>714472317
this, so much this

>>714472453
I don't really know the first thing about it but that Brighter Shores game was pretty popular for a while. No idea how it handles the MMO part.

>>714472135
this movement won't have truly made it until we have articles like this

If you signed your name for #stopkillinggames, just know that you are siding with nazis and bigots

>if this law passes I might have to stop putting human feces in the food I make, how will I survive as a small business?
>If this law passes I might have to start putting functional brakes on the cars I sell, I'm just a small indie mechanic, how will I survive?
>If this law passes I might have to stop remotely disabling the software I sold, I'm just a zurich-based queer! This is literally killing trans kids!

>>714472645
Nice, was hoping the trannies would keep away from this and I'm glad they did.

>>714472660
You don't get it do you? The poor indie devs will starve if you won't let them save time by engineering kill switches into their games.

>>714468973
>Journos
Is literally a nobody blog, A LITERAL BLOG FROM A RANDOM FAT FUCK WITH NO VIEWS

Can't wait until its rejected and I'll laugh at you losers

>>714468361
>FUCK YOU
No, that should be
>EAT MY ENTIRE ASS

>>714472645
Guys we found who to put in that stonetoss meme.

>>714473046
PIRATE SOFTWAREGODS WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH

>>714472821
That is what constitutes a journalist, yes.

>>714473503
No, that's being a blogger.

>>714473558
Yes, journalist.

>>714467783 (OP)
Holy fucking shit the journalists are actually doing it!
>As the #StopKillingGames campaign accelerates toward its goal of influencing legislation across Europe, America, and beyond, questions are emerging about its unintended consequences—especially for independent and marginalized game developers. While the movement has been hailed by consumers as a pivotal push for digital preservation rights, critics caution that poorly crafted regulations could disproportionately burden the very creators the indie scene celebrates.
>Many marginalized developers—whether part of the LGBTQ+ community or working in underrepresented racial or ethnic groups—operate in environments already strained by limited resources, smaller teams, and systemic barriers to funding.
>“If these proposals become law without nuance,” said one Zurich-based queer indie dev who wished to remain anonymous, “we could be forced to release server code or build fallback systems we don’t have the budget for. Larger studios might weather that. We can’t.”
>Beyond the technical demands, some worry about the creative toll. Ephemeral formats such as alternate reality games, one-time live experiences, or experimental multiplayer mechanics—often favored by marginalized voices seeking new modes of expression—may no longer be viable if permanence becomes a legal requirement.
>“There’s power in games that exist for a moment in time,” said artist-developer Kofi Adu from Berlin. “Mandating preservation could stifle a whole genre of digital storytelling that thrives on impermanence.”

Can someone explain to me whether signing the petition will make me trad chad chud or woke virgin onions?

>>714473779
If you sign it, you're a tranny commie supporter

>>714473779
You're singlehandedly killing the videogame industry.

>>714473702
>Will hurt troons, gays, and minorities
I already said I was in favour of it, they don't need to sell it to me again.

>>714473702
this is fake and you made it up

>>714473702
nice headcanon, GPT-san.

>>714473779
If you sign it, you're a gamer. If you don't, you aren't a gamer.

What's the deal with this smear campaign? This is obviously artificial, several threads all at once. Corpos release their bootlickers and employers squads?

>>714473963
The industry wasn't expecting it to actually reach 1 million. Now they are going full force, trying to equate SKG to gamergate

>>714473046
You wouldn't be spending all that time lying and seething if you thought that this would be the most likely outcome, corpo-san.

>>714474015
Well, I guess then I will enjoy their delicious tears while I still can.

>>714468973
Seems they're trying to D&C Euros and Americans to try and stop the spread.

>>714474126
Whether SKG wins or not, there will be a lot of amazing drama to laugh at for the next few weeks.

>>714468526
>What part of this makes it impossible to preserve video games as an enforced industry standard?
The companies don't make money off video game preservation

>>714471123
can't even stop thinking about himself enough to make a post in third person.

>>714467783 (OP)
Literally who?

if this passes I can just wait for online games to go offline and play them for free
DEATH TO GAME PUBLISHERS

>>714473935
>>714473937
Journalists use AI, what else is new?

>>714474643
anon is not a journalist, and his text is not from anywhere. He made that up for (You)s

>>714474320
That's inaccurate. Games with proper end-of-life plans would still playable and would just be left up for sale. They don't want to do that because then they'd have to compete with themselves, even if it only marginally impacts their sales for new games. The Crew was killed because they think it will get people to move on and get The Crew 2. They might have considered keeping The Crew alive but not sell it anymore, but then that play to get people to move on would be even more obvious and be bad PR.

>>714469223
>Just purchase the rights and hire people to restart it?
Are you people retarded or something?

>>714468885
this guy is retarded. people do try and make their own modded skyrim or lotr or private server. people do support indie games, i mean look at expedition 33. and what does that get us? absolutely nothing. companies sue private servers and those modded projects, they ignore the indie success and still fuck you over. why does this retard ignore reality?

>>714474738
>The Crew was killed because they think it will get people to move on and get The Crew 2
Anon, The Crew 2 released 7 years ago.

>>714470253
>singapoor
wait a minute
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/714149372/#714159842
this faggot posts here
OP is just him shilling his own shitty article
KWAB

>>714475235
My bad. I remember the shutdown was near the release of a new game, but it was with the third game and not the second.

>>714469223
>Just purchase the rights and hire people to restart it?
>publisher tells you to fuck off and buy a copy of their new game in the series/genre
wow anon, that sure worked a wonder

>>714471884
It depends.
If its just for say drm then no.

>>714467783 (OP)
His blog is nothing but corporate bootlicking. Fuck that

>>714467783 (OP)
While the SKG initiative sound like a good thing - if it goes through it's likely going to be used as an excuse to massive increase the baseline price of games across the board (now they have forever server costs to account for etc).

I haven't been following any of this shit ngl, but has this occurred to no one? I just see a lot of people bitching about game price hikes in the end.

>>714467783 (OP)
Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a softball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.
You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket.

>>714475905
>what if gaming companies use this as an excuse to have shitty business pracitces
listen to yourself

>>714475905
because it doesn't matter, if a publisher wants to raise prices they'll just do it and use any excuse, if this doesn't go through they'll raise prices anyway and just use a different excuse

>>714475973
>Games are not physical products you can "own".
then what the fuck is UNO, check mate atheist

>>714476048
>listen to yourself
I am listening to myself, anon. I'm saying that in practical life people will really care more about short term price hikes than the long term scope of this preservation initiative (even though the latter is clearly good). I foresee people really caring about price more when all is said and done. That's all.

>>714476197
The price hike will happen no matter what because gamr devs are massive jews, not because we got a law approved to stop them from killing their games.

>>714476197
The price hike has already been happening, and independently of SKG: games are starting to be sold for 100 bucks now

>>714476325
>The price hike will happen no matter what
I don't think most people have even considered this though, that's the thing. They expect this to pass and prices to remain the same from what I've gathered from reading the occasional thread about this, plus posts on twitter. There's no talk about price impact.

>>714475905
>Price of games dramatically increases for goyslop during an upcoming global recession
>Revenue drops off of a fucking cliff
>Hundreds of slopstudios die overnight and thousands of slopdevs are forced to put the fries in the bag.
>Aka this gay industry gets the death it rightfully deserves.

Or

>Devs bring back basic features like being able to locally host servers and actually good games don't have to die because some corpo faggot wanted to bolt online servers to a functioning product.

Either way I win.

>>714475905
>I haven't been following any of this shit ngl, but has this occurred to no one?
Yes, but any attempt to bring it up is just met with
>YOU'RE AMERICAN YOU'RE A GOY
>JUST SIGN THE PETITION
>THAT WON'T HAPPEN IT'S VAGUE ON PURPOSE

>>714476776
Kill yourself at your earliesr convenience.
>>714476478
And the relevance is? I fail to see why it matters whether people can rub two braincells together to know jews gotra jew and it wasn't the fault of a law to protect consumer's rights.

You know what would actually be funny? If this shit passes and it's just reasonable reform that requires bare minimum honesty and nobody has any issue following it unless they really go out of their way, which is more than likely the actual outcome.

>>714467783 (OP)
A victory against right-wing extremism.

>>714477072
>And the relevance is? I fail to see why it matters
Calm down, catty. I agree with the sentiment behind SKG, I'm just saying that I think people will freak out over price later if it passes because they don't do much second order reasoning.

>>714476776
>the price will go up
Funny how this is only used when people want good things to happen. I never hear complaints about prices going up because the ceo wants a new yacht.

>>714477292
Clearly, neither do you. People will have bafflingly stupid takes no matter what. You are a good example of this. Anticipating bad takes is one thing but worrying about them is extreme neuroticism.

>>714477371
Anything to demoralize the cattle and stop them from remembering they have rights.

>>714477371
>I never hear complaints about prices going up because the ceo wants a new yacht.
Literally every plen complains about this CEO indulgences lmao, what?

>>714477090
Yeah. I really don't think this is going to be such a big deal in the end.

>>714475905
Price hikes are already happening with zero excuses given, you WILL patch games with online components to work after EOL by force of law.

>>714467783 (OP)
>I find it ultimately ironic that the reason why Stop Killing Games has to exist in the first place is EU laws.

>>714477448
Anon so passive aggressive he sounds like he's in pain because he's sitting on his own prolapsed asshole attempts to post word "neuroticism" without irony. Wew.

Anon why are you such a gay fagget

>>714475905
Does it matter at this point though? They already hiked the price right now and they don't even bother making up excuses for it.

>>714475905
who cares dude? the prices are already on the rise. with or without this new law we will be paying 80 dollars per game.

your argument is a non issue

>>714477663
Since you asked so directly, I'll escalate for a moment.
I can call you a neurotic retard to your face. You're just so fucking insecure that even slightly pointed comments tick you off like this. In your condition, having a vagina and period would be an improvement.

Now, how about you just accept that I might have a point that you're being neurotic about a "what if" scenario that might not even come to pass.

>>714475905
>I haven't been following any of this shit ngl, but has this occurred to no one?
It occurred to the guys who made the initiative, since the entire point is that the players will be able to host servers, if the devs decides to no longer do so.

>>714467783 (OP)
>>714474126
>>714474317
>Takes advantage of consumers
>Consumers get fed up
These guys really think we were born yesterday and that they hold the moral high ground.

>>714477914
>I can call you a neurotic retard to your face.
Anon you struggle to maintain eye contact irl stop playing. Everything about this post is nervous fight or flight response. You literally adrenaline spike just posting through text.

>>714467783 (OP)
Hey Ferrett fucker. Go kill yourself.

>>714473963
They're doubling down because no one's falling for it anymore.
Consumers won.

>>714467783 (OP)
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE IMAGINARY GAY WORDS ON PAPER THAT WERE CHANGED 999 GORILLION TIMES BEFORE... THEY MUST STAY THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE... UHH.. WE WANT TO FUCK YOU OVER!!!
Frau get me de corpo azz penetratar 3000

>>714475905
>forever server costs
u wot m5

>>714469207
They don't cry because of that because they only care about Zognald Trump "winning", or they delude themselves into thinking they will enter the 400k income bracket in the next 4 years.

>>714474320
Funny thing is they do, all the remasters and remakes are proof of that. Nu-devs are just too short-sighted and retarded to realize it.

>>714478157
If you don't have anything to say, that's a pretty silly way to show it.

>>714467783 (OP)
SKG are the "sovereign citizens" of gaming

>>714478452
I'm a silly goose sometimes, sir

Daniel Tan, your article is shit. I looked at your other posts (all are retarded btw), especially this one:
https://danieltan.weblog.lol/2025/06/password-derived-signature-authentication
You just invented a worse form of server-side credentials as specified in webauthn.

>>714468812
Because SKG has universal support unironically.

>>714475905
> it's likely going to be used as an excuse to massive increase the baseline price of games
NIGGER they already bumped prices from $60 to $80 and they had NO EXCUSE. If AAA raises prices again, they are going under and I can't wait for it to happen.

>>714475905
>now they have forever server costs
Now they don't, you retard who didn't read anything yet shits out his worthless nigger opinion.

>>714475905
>(now they have forever server costs to account for etc)
great bait made me reply

>>714478635
Wow that was pretty rude.

I have feelings ya know

>>714472081
>>714472023
I agree, something is being cooked, and it ain't good.

Expect some made up drama or backlash like calling ross a pedo or something very soon.

>However the core controversy is not even this: it’s about asking the government to legislate and regulate how games are even made.

...yeah just like any government regulation about everything ever? What the fuck is this retarded shit, I couldn't be bothered reading past this

>>714478531
Not for long. Game journalists are turning this into another Gamergate. All thanks for Asmongold and Elon Musk voice their support for this movement.
Trannies are going to retroactively hate this now.

>>714478724
I sincerely doubt that because Ross always seemed like a guy that keeps off the grid. Any attempt to paint him as a child diddler or a rapist would need some substantial proof since he lives in bumfuck nowhere with his fujo wife, and only really interacts with fans through emails and the comments section.

>>714478816
You should be allowed to take money from people with no recourse. It's their fault for trusting you.

>>714476478
>I don't think most people have even considered this though
You are a goddamn fucking moron. People considered this since the very beginning. Initiative doesn't force devs to run servers forever. That's the most common first misunderstanding people have, the difference is people actually read FAQ but you skimmed the topic, didn't read anything on SKG and now you think everyone is stupid
>wow nobody thought of that thing! I am so smart, I am smarter than everyone!
What an arrogant and ignorant faggot you are jfc.

>>714478852
He doesn't need to be a pedo to be called a pedo.

Just fake some logs and claim he was trying to fuck a 17 years old.

>>714467783 (OP)
debunkers are cancer

Over 3 hours of comfy talk with ross, rossman and a successful game dev (matthew has frequently been a guest at moore's law is dead)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd2_FvvqyR0&t

>>714478932
Unless they do it in the next week, it might be too late to stop the movement.

>>714468812
When it looked like SKG might quietly fail, they didn't cover it because they were afraid of the Streisand effect (best case for the publishers was people not being aware of its existence so writing hit articles against it might have backfired).
Now that it's not the case anymore and this ship has apparently sailed, you'll probably see more articles equating it to Gamergate, Musk, chuds and incels in an attempt to poison the well in advance.

Remember that game journalists aren't actually journalists, they're the vidya industry's willing bitches.

>>714475905
For single player games, its as simple as releasing an official crack when they decide to discontinue their DRM servers (they can still have their DRM servers while they decide to keep them).

For online multiplayer games, they could prepare beforehand to just add the ability for players to create their own local servers (something that was done in the 90s and 00s) while they still can keep their own official servers with their own terms if they like. There's bound to be some roadblocks for this case, naturally, especially for games that were thought to use their own servers. But it's not something impossible in way that it can't take a few steps at a time.

>>714478989
The game dev dude barely spoke which is a shame because he actually did sound like he knew what he was talking about for once unlike Louis's friend.

Why do retards not understand that it doesn't matter what laws protect corporation rights in the USA?
They want to use uniform marketing strategies for maximum profit worldwide. No one wants to model their entire monetization scheme around a model that is only legal in the US. They want to make a product they can sell everywhere, especially if it's a digital one.

>>714468506
>>714468594
>>714470056
>>714473196
You dare question my arcane knowledge on this subject? I think it is time for you to die.

>>714478907
I couldn't imagine how miserable the average /v/ native must be. Imagine main-boarding this place.. The average anon here is so comically tense and ready to freak out at the drop of a hat. Even if I say multiple times that I think SKG is a good idea, they still rage like I'm trying to tank it. It makes /pol/ look downright normal.

Gamers in general are emotionally dysregulated retards ngl.

>>714472251
Among Us.

>>714479467
>comes in, brings nothing of value, pretends everyone else is the problem
Are you a woman?

>>714479467
What's up with you saying something retarded and acting like the victim when you're called a retard? This isn't soccer.

>>714474320

>that ick feeling she gets when she sees you sign SKG

>>714479552
The histrionics that I'm seeing in response to my innocuous speculations are more hole coded than any of my posts are.

>>714479467
Nobody cares about your outlook on SKG, people fling shit at you, because you make factually incorrect and harmful statements that were explained hundreds of times over, yet you think yourself smarter than everyone for being uninformed. Just shut the fuck up man, stop whining you got rightfully called out

>>714475905
>(now they have forever server costs to account for etc).
nigga

>>714473558
>>714473651
>CO-FFEE
>BE-ER
kek
The old Simpsons is so all encompassing in its references.

>>714479760
>Nobody cares about your outlook
>people fling shit at you, because
Judgment via consensus. Another hole coded post.

>>714468716
Good morning SAARS

>>714479894
Retard or troll

>>714475905
>>714475905
>now they have forever server costs to account for etc).
No they don't. All they need to do is give players the tools to host their own servers. That costs nothing, every single multiplayer game in existence used to have dedicated servers.

>>714479135
You know what? I miss AI bots for multiplayer modes. Despite some meager exceptions, game companies don't do that anymore. I believe it's one of the better ways to make multiplayer games alive post-EoS.

>>714479989
Neither, I am your friend.

>>714479467
>Gamers in general are emotionally dysregulated retards ngl.
Feel free to leave at anytime. Nobody forces you to post here.

>>714480035
I'm only friends with retards

>>714479552
Jewish probably.

>>714480035
I am not friends with women and you cry like a bitch all thread

>>714479092
It's pretty unnerving looking at the silence desu. They never stopped talking about gamergate back then, but suddenly, here we are with something that actually has bipartisan support, and a popular one at that, suddenly it's all crickets.

>>714479817
>unironically advocating for buying the same game twice

>be me
>visit a restaurant as a kid with my parents
>eat a good hamburger
>20 years pass
>turns out that the owner of the restaurant has died
>NOOOOO STOP KILLING FOOD, I'M ENTITLED TO EAT THE SAME BURGER I TASTED AS A KID!!!!

>food analogy
How to reveal to everyone that you're trans.

>>714480343
>copy the recipe and make that burger forever at your own leisure
and that's why I signed SKG

>>714467783 (OP)
>shills his own blog for clicks
kys daniel

>>714468361
>what do you mean, just change the law? YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
Lawmakers are fairly unwilling to change the law though. Just look at the constitution. The last time it got updated was the addition of the 27th amendment in 1992.

>>714467783 (OP)
>direct link
Kill yourself.

>>714480987
The contitution isnt normal law

>>714467783 (OP)
Lol wtf "legal reality", the hell?? Are politicians unable to change laws now, all of a sudden, or what?

>>714467947
Truly, the EU lives rent-free in their head. kek.

>>714481357
as a sovereign citizen I do not bow down to your legal fiction

>>714481118
of course he put a direct link it's his own blog

>>714480025
Yup, if there's no one to play with, at least you can have some fun with bots.

Reached first overdrive goal.

>i-if only we had trusted the corporations more instead of the government...

>>714481456
It's literally their job to change the laws. Where's the fiction here, exactly??

>>714472135
>Conveniently ignores contemporary EU Acts in the digital space already contain exclusions and waivers for small businesses to prevent this problem from occuring.
Goddamned corpocrate sycophant cocksuckers.

>>714481876
I do not recognize their legal fiction

>>714480025
when I was a boy I played all of Quake 3 arena offline vs bots, it even had cutscenes.
Beating Xaero was a rush

>>714482623
that's fine, it makes no difference what you recognize or don't

>>714475317
lmao you're right. Dude talks just like the blog post. What a fucking retard.

>>714467783 (OP)
>IT'S DEBOONKED DEBOOOOOOOOONKED

The gall of burgers crying about imaginary communists or people larping as them while also accepting shit like " Israel will tell us when they finish finding the terrorists" is astonishing to me. I have been watching Metokur for over 10 fucking years, i love Jim to death but it feels like on his death bed his sight is getting shorter and shorter, he had no comments on whatever bullshit is going on in "his presidents" head. As a person who is not a burger but sided with drumpf i was massively disappointed about what happened not even a month ago. I Wound't be able to celebrate my country's freedom day knowing how fucked up everything is. How can you not be ashamed to know that you, as the so called most powerful country in the world, have been said "sit down, shut up, we will invade whatever we want and when we finish we will tell you what to say". This is fucking crazy to me...will they find those testing facilities in Turkey? How about in the middle of Europe? At this point anything goes.

I'm glad people got motivated enough to at least try to do something about the state of gaming while americans are in their fantasy land where they fight trannies and commies.

>>714472135
It will pass simply because its a way to get money via fines from companies if they don't comply, is the good thing of using their greed against other jews

>>714467783 (OP)
Jason is such a fucking retard

>>714467783 (OP)
What the fuck do you expect? The SKG kids are like every other gamer, fucking clueless dipshits who know nothing. Even going past the legal aspect, their technical understanding (or rather, lack of) is hilarious. These retards think because they hosted a server for a 25 year old valve game they are now experts. They think modern game servers are just an exe you drop on your laptop and bam, game server. No modern AAA game does anything like this anymore, it's all client instance nodes for AWS and Azure dynamic resource servers. No retard gamer could even figure out how to use it, and even if one did, these servers are run off a myriad of third party middlewares that they have no legal right to redistribute to gamertards.

They should have just hoped they never got the signatures, because it just dying off would have been a lot less embarrassing than what's coming. An EU discussion that lasts 15 minutes, they ask 1 expert to weigh in, they all realise gamers are entitled retards and drop the petition. For some reason the SKG retards seem to think getting the signatures just means they already auto-passed a law or something.

>>714484363
Ok lil bro, L-ratio dab on your face

>>714467783 (OP)
Entering the bargaining stage hey?
While amusing, i would like to remind you that you fucking lost.

>>714472821
Shalom saar

>>714484363
You alright Maldivious? You still coughing up blood?

Rossissies can't stop losing lmao

>>714471123
New DSP in the making

>>714467937
except for nintendo of course, you'll get sued for legally trying to emulate since you broke their encryption to be able to play games

>>714470847
>When we laugh at the US for a recent defeat it's rent free
>When you have a holiday where you cry about the European nation you came from hundreds of years later that's totally not rent free though
What interesting logic!

>>714471123
>>714484242
SO interesting how he gets so defensive about the ferret fucking allegations when they aren't even public knowledge. It's almost like he's trying to hide something.

>>714484363
How does that boot taste?

the ferret rapist is on track to become a chris tier lolcow

>>714467783 (OP)
Just apologise to Ross and OnlyFangs. Not "I'm sorry you felt that way about what I said about Ross", actually say "Ross, I'm sorry for calling you a used car salesman, facetiously soliciting you to a rimjob and slandering the aims of the SKG initiative". Take a good look at the way you act towards those around you because you are a thoroughly ugly person.

>>714471123
Is he aware enough to realize he's a lulzcow?

>>714467783 (OP)
>literalwho burger retard (not even a lawyer) commenting on EU consumer law
not reading this dogshit xD

>>714471123
It's really funny but that's the most obvious pretend to be another person kind of post.
And no I'm not defending that pirate retard.

>>714485234
Cope more xister Jason Hall.

>>714484876
>>714471123
It's so funny to watch this unfold.
It's very easy for him to make this all go away and even keep some of his infamy. But his ego seems to be unbelievably massive. Is there no rational people in his circles to give him some decent advice?
I am willing to bet that Ross would throw him a life raft if he asked.

>>714485448
Jason Thor Hall has torn down every olive branch extended to him and stuck them up his ass.

I have no idea how Pirate can even deal with whatever is happening. Trolls are shredding him, grifters are tearing him apart with videos, people who want to support the initiative use him as a platform. His own defense mechanisms are overwhelmed. At this point going undercover wouldn't help. Please dont say that he should say he is sorry, it wouldnt help at this point

I wish this initiative was as corpo ass devastating as these fuckers like to pretend it is. Is letting people locally host servers for an Overwatch or a Concord really that fucking onerous? Like it'd be great if it was government overreach that caused EA to have to stop making Fifa every year because now they have to support every yearly release forever and ever. Seeing faggot devs get raped by big daddy goverment would be great but this clearly isn't that.

>>714467783 (OP)
This is no Legal Eagle.

>>714485618
He should start shilling crypto

>>714485618
How many times have people tried to earnestly extend an olive branch over this and he's told them to basically eat shit and die for not uncritically agreeing with him?

It's had to have been at least like 4 or 5 times now at this point right?

>>714485710
How would that help his mental state.

>>714485742
At this point i wouldn't trust anybody near me, thinking that they might just be on the pitchforks side

>>714485618
DSP and Chrischan were lolcows and they still thrive as streamers.
Any publicity is good publicity and this gave him a massive boost.

>>714485758
He can use the money to buy and shove a golden dildo up his ass.

can Thornelia even walk anymore?
there were some pictures from his former roomie with walking sticks and walking frame alongside his dildo
something about bones being fucked up, I am leaning towards torn anus

>>714467783 (OP)
>words words words
laws should work for the people. I don't give a single fuck about the legal ramifications or practicality. sick of this jewdiciary, lawyer bullshit society.

>>714468812
Every game jurno loves it and supports it in my euro shithole

Let's go Hungary to >100%

>https://stop-killing-games.keep-track.xyz/

>>714485893
I..wouldn't want to live the lives of these people..and i work with mentally deficient kids

>>714472135
>let players host their dedicated servers
>problem solved
wow i can't believe every online game suddenly exploded overnight

>>714486313
>1.1 million

What massive number is this going to end on by the end of July?

>>714486313
better late than never I suppose
alma

>>714485618
>>714485834
>Please dont say that he should say he is sorry, it wouldnt help at this point
Yes, it would.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nogc3OoJOnU
Lately here he's been like
>I apologised to Ross on Twitter BUT (everyone ignored it) or (people keep attacking me) or (I wasn't wrong about anything I said)
Even here he's lording himself over others with the 'woe is me' victim complex garbage.

When has he EVER stopped being an asshole, be real and taken accountability for his actions? He should take off the stupid bass boost voice filter while he's at it.

>>714484805
What defeat? this was an initiative started by an American, saved by American influencers and supported by American gamers

>>714481681
GOING EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!

>>714467783 (OP)
>danieltan.weblog.lol
who the fuck gives a shit lmao

>>714486541
I mean...

>>714485618
>I had a knee-jerk reaction at the start and then i got stuck in because of my massive ego and combative personality. I didn't want to misrepresent, for that i apologize
That's it. That's all it would take. He doesn't have to denounce his opinion about the initiative itself. If it happens in a public discussion with Ross, it would diffuse most people shredding him.
I think Ross would do it.

>>714486594
Your comment is doing the same thing he is doing and thats why im saying that it wouldn't matter.
>I am sorry but i am a victim
>He will be forgiven if he says he is sorry AND takes the bass off
The second part of both these statements is unnecessary.

>>714486890
They're not going to keep the rate. 2 million is more realistic and still an achievement since the largest number of signatures an initiative got was 1.9 million.

>>714486594
Piratesoftware is literally bleeding out of his asshole because trolls are getting to him. Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

jasonsissies....
how do we stop the rape

>>714487082
The whipping and rapes will continue until morale improves.

>>714487082
I mean...this is ridiculous

>>714487082
How do I get tens of thousands of (you)s telling me to kill myself all at once? All I've ever gotten was like... 5 and that was here. Please I need the attention.

>>714487082
>>714487151
The disgusting behavior of the SKG community is exactly why I no longer support it. It's just fucking gamergate at this point. You don't just swat a streamer just because he dropped some truth nukes about your shitty movement.

>>714487198
ridiculously based

>>714487198
reaping and sowing
xhe did the sowing, but couldnt handle the raping

>>714487198
This faggot's miserable existence being ended by himself or a cop seems pretty based

>>714487082
What horseshit that he gets "tens of thousands of death threats a day". Even 1/8 of that is unlikely

>>714487252
Are you gonna keep posting this until you get a (you)?

>>714487252
Shut the fuck up Jason or his groomed discord victim.

>>714487151
Beyond based

>>714487310
It's the best chance they have to silence this campaign.

>>714487310
Nobody is sending him death threats. He's a lying little ferret fucker.

>>714467783 (OP)
I genuinely don't understand being against this,
it's literally only a bad thing for big publishers and corpos that want to milk shit infinitely on their own terms and hold IPs hostage and indies don't have access to the same resources nor would indie games likely ever end up being 'unplayable' to the same degree as an always online service, and even then you're just dealing with likely one or a handful of people

>>714487545
Pirate has connections to the big publishers because he's a nepo-baby. He's pretty much the only retard on the internet against it because his ego won't allow him to be wrong on his stance. Very insightful case on how narcissists operate.

>>714487523
But people seem to harass him.
Why would anybody do that other than to tarnish SKG's reputation?

>>714487828
He's had skeletons in his closet for about 10 months now. People already didn't like him, this was a boiling point for many to start ripping him to shreds.

>>714467783 (OP)
>wait, a dev can't just buy 3rd party code and then distribute it to everyone?
>YOU DON'T SAY

trans arc when

>>714487545
jason is leeching off of his father who has a stake in GAAS
that is all there is to it, he is acting in personal interest

How about Stop Trooning Games?

>>714487924
It's like they learned nothing. Personal attacks are the worst you can do in this situation.

>>714487976
>won’t somebody please think of the loicences

>>714487010
The last one is separate, but it goes hand-in-hand with his hollier-than-thou "I worked at Blizzard, I know this because I worked at Blizzard, did you know I worked for Blizzard, I'm better than you because I worked at Blizzard" attitude which causes him to annoy or hurt people he interacts with.

He's completely arrogant, has zero humility and an attitude problem but he's not cognisant enough to see it at all. That's why everyone hates him.

>>714488110
>Personal attacks are the worst you can do in this situation.
Well it's making Pirate age by about 20 years and cough up blood so I'd say it's working.

>>714487924
>He's had skeletons in his closet for about 10 months now
more like 10 years+
every. single. community. this guy was a part of, eventually marks him as persona non grata
from the degens at Second Life, EVE online , WoW and now even Twitch/Youtube
with egomanics like this guy, it's just a matter of when

>>714467783 (OP)
Imagine claiming you are a 20 year industry expert hacker-man and then shipping code like pic related. Don't you have a ferret to rape?

>>714488214
Working for what, labelling SKG as a harassment campaign?

even for the standards of /v/ OP is a huge faggot that got assraped extra hard
i bet this didnt turn out the way you thought it would, when no one even read your shitty little blog faggot

It is going to happen. Relax. You are just a good greedy jewish company in a very bad EU world. Now spread for me. I’ll be gentle.

>>714488315
/v/ and Twitter is the ones harrassing you Jason, not SKG or Ross. You need to get that boogieman out of your head.

>>714488393
They are doing it in association with the campaign. The media isn't going to care who the main actors are.

>>714488536
Who gives a fuck what the media cares about? Gaming Journalists have no credibility.

>>714487976
Shouldn’t have made the game with 3rd party licences or designed it in a way that does not allow to change the used library then :^)

>>714488651
They still have immense power over the left (eg Europe).
Trannies are going to wake up tomorrow morning hating SKG

>>714471123
>2015+10
>People still falling for mozartposting

>>714488813
troons hate him too so idk man, nothing is going to save pirate from this hole he dug himself

>>714487976
Retard. Once the law is in place, everyone including the 3rd parties will know about it and will have to comply. New clauses will be added on contracts to account for distributing stuff at end of life. It will be standard practice. And the engineers will solve any edge cases.
This was never an engineering problem. You lost

>>714467947
What does this have to do with the US? I think you just like whining about the US.

>>714488813
>jews forced to sell games instead of scam
>shit games die
>trannies mad
So a TRIPPLE win?

>>714473963
Even if this bombs I'll forever laugh at the fact that a bunch of no life losers forced these faggots to drag their asses in court to deny.

>>714488651
It's how the public will perceive the campaign.
There's nothing to gain from harassing an opponent. I'd imagine it's a false flag from those that want the thing to fail. It does a better job than the "debunking".

so is it not going to do anything or is gonna ruin the industry? have the shills reached a consensus yet?

>>714485618
The thing is, even if the SKG movement failed, the internet blame will be all on him with how much he went on record trying to kill the movement and the whole chatter about the vote bots. Dude should've just kept quiet the moment the movement picked up the pace.

>>714488813
No, they won't, because they already rightly hate Pirate Software for his own actions.

>>714489071
The public will perceive Piratesoftware as a bad actor based on the eceleb takes and nothing more. You act like Ross himself is calling for the harrassment, when it's people's own /v/olition to go out and insult this nigga and drag him through the mud and gravel until he's bleeding out of his mouth and dickhole. That's how the internet has always been and always will be if you became hated by it.

>>714475905
>games will get more expensive
Was gonna happen anyway, they'd rather burn this planet to the ground then give an inch to straight men.

>>714488121
>just ignore your NDA, copyright and everything else
>just go to prison lol and bankrupt lol

>>714468812
You know why

>>714467937
>rovisions to cover the preservation of games via modding and emulation
>a month doesn't pass when some modder or emulator maker gets hit by a lawsuit in the US
This is a fucking joke.

>>714481681
Literally Super Saiyajin. Now on to SSJ2, SSJ3 and SSJ4. The fourth bar should be orange.

>>714488776
>hey indie
>just create literally everything yourself
>lol

>>714488987
>yes, fuck 3rd parties, all your shit will get distributed to troons too
I doubt that.

>>714489353
Should have thought about EoS plan in advance then. Scammed people - go to prison, simple as

>>714489353
You're going to prison for colluding to commit fraud in discord desu

>>714489320
That's how we got ethics in video game journalism back.

>>714489367
>we are preserving these brand new Shitch games, which we copy around a week before release
>hurrrrrrrr

>>714487198
Yeah, attention whores like him will make up just about anything for a crumb of pity, they just can't help doing it

>>714489571
>file bankruptcy instead
>it's over
lol

>>714488915
Let them have fun anon

>>714489604
>strawman

>>714484602
holy shit did he really say this?

>>714489520
It's something that will be known when they enter the contract with the developer. If their middleware has some secret sauce they don't want to give away, that's something for their programmers to deal with. If they can't other companies will take their place.
Again, you lost.

>>714489782
>that that doesn't count
it was the final straw that made Nintendo go after emulation PCiggers

before that:
>hurrrr we are preserving Pokemon
>look at me, I'm a youtuber, I totally purcha...downloaded Pokemon into this emulator durrr
>wow, it's SUPER BUGGY (in my shit emulator)
all these youtubers should get sued for blatantly lying.

>>714470516
>EU parliament that have STEM degrees, and devs don't know enough about the real world to realize that.
they should get somebody better then because the EU tech market is fucking dead currently thanks to these faggot pedophiles in the EU

>>714467783 (OP)
abolish forever copyright. down with jewy corpos!

>>714489921
If I bought the game I should be able to play it however I fucking please.

>>714489832
>hurrr everything should get released to the public
>because
muh commies
fuck off

>>714489985
You bought a copy of the game, that doesn't give you complete control of the property.
And yes, those are two different things.

>>714489985
>If I boughted the game
>if
>I boughted it 1 week before release for totally sures

>>714484602
>eat my entire ass
Why does he keep saying that? Disgusting person.

>>714489353
PLAP PLAP PLAP GET FINED GET FINED GET FINED

>>714490030
>playing it on PC instead of shitendo is "taking complete control"?

>>714490061
Kill yourself, retarded nigger.

>>714489427
I know you retards have no idea what you’re talking about, neither programming nor gamedev, but in fact you very well CAN design around the fact that a library you are using now will not be suitable after EoS and you will have to replace it with open-source alternative or worst case scenario do something yourself. And this is not a hard thing to do either unless you are a super retarded developer or you dont care about doing so in the first place and now need to rework the whole project because you wanted to scam people out of their purchases

>>714490068
I will bankruptcy instead
>we will sue yo...oh

>>714489993
> everything should get released to the public
Precisely what is needed for the game to work without the developer's support.
Your seething is so fucking amusing.

>>714490065
It's an American thing, they're weird.

>>714480987
Not sure how burger laws work but changing the constitution is usually significantly harder than simply changing regular laws

>>714489674
you will provide data to general archive upon release. just like movies and music
makes sense it should active right when you start asking money, not when you want to stop

>>714490117
you are the PCigger stealing everything.
I'm just telling the truth about your dirty hands.

I guess the checks for the (((journalists))) finally came through? Pfhaha.

>>714480987
The USA is pretty unique in that it views its constitution more as a sacred religious document than a legal one

>>714490030
If he bought a copy of the game, he should have control over his copy of the game, or he should be recompensed with his full money back.

>>714490119
>just use a different library, for example one of these broken buggy open soruce ones
>this is not a hard thing to do
>except now the game is totally broken and buggy

>>714490117
>>playing it on PC instead of shitendo is "taking complete control"?
Yes, yes it is. You bought a copy to play on a specific piece for hardware and while you can make a backup of it you can't access said back up unless the copy you bought is damaged and irreparable.
I'll never understand why you America's can't grasp this.

>>714490210
I never played a shitendo game in my entire life, kill yourself, cuck. I bought and own more official game copies than you and all your retard zoomoid friends combined.

>>714490146
and the commie drops his mask

>>714480245
>buying same game twice
>a game that was previously F2P
>a game you can just wait for a 90% sale
>a game you can just pirate if you don't want to "double dip"

>>714490303
>retarded corposhillspeak
Rope pronto.

>>714490181
>just like movies and music

>>714490271
>free2play
>get my money back
Okay, here I give you 0 bucks back
>nooooo, not like that

>>714490271
>he should have control over his copy of the game
And he does.
To do what he wants he would need more than what he has which requires another licence different to the one he has.
>he should be recompensed with his full money back.
That would imply he received a damage product which he clearly didn't.

>>714480987
>Just look at the constitution.
changing corporate law is not the same as changing the consitution

>>714490343
>HE'S A COMMIE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO RUN THE GAME WITHOUT A SERVER CONNECTION
You sound like dipshit and probably look like a dead fish out of water.

>>714489674
>file bankruptcy instead
>ip rights get taken away as a compensation and source code released as to comply with the law
Whats the endgame

>>714490362
Yes anon, basic law is "corposhillspeak".
It couldn't possibly be that you're not very smart.

>>714489520
If the current license holders refuse to bend a little someone else will come along with a better product to fill the gap. It might cause roadbumps in the short term but the market is so competitive it makes finding alternatives easier.

>>714490421
>just give me the source of your whole game
FUCK OFF COMMIE THIEF

No one in this thread is debunking what is said in Dan Tan's article. Are you anons, per chance, ignoring the fact that Daniel might be right?

>>714490498
Don't need that to host servers, retarded monkey.

>>714490453
>ip rights get taken away as a compensation
>sue EU for unlawful repossession of property
What's your endgame here?

>>714490453
no, IP rights were boughted by another company before bankruptcy
>no, you need to give us game of bankrupt company because you own the IP
that makes zero sense
btw. source code and server code is lost, my bad, good bye

>>714490030
Actually I can modify software I purchased however I want. I just can't distribute it.

>>714490343
Open sourcing parts of your code is standard practice for decades now and even the biggest companies in the world do it. And as i told you already, they might not even have to do that if their engineers are good.
Preventing companies steeling from their customers and cementing strong property rights is the opposite of communism
You are a mentally ill parasite and you lost.

>>714484805
>reaction image from American media
Everytime

>>714490515
There's nothing to "debunk" there because the article gets things wrong in the first three sentences and I stopped reading it after that. The writer of that article knows nothing about copyright or EU law and the process of retaining, repossession or relinquishing of intellectual property rights.

NOOOOOOOOO
STOP WANTING TO OWN THINGS. THINK OF THE POOR MULTI TRILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES.
COMMIES COMMIES COMMIES.

>>714490127
>IPs are forcibly sold to pay the fine during bankrupcy proceedings
>Whoever owns the IP must now comply with EU law or financially buck broken.

Man either way you slice it things end on PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET FINED GET FINED GET FINED GET FINED.

>>714490595
>Open sourcing parts of your code is standard practice for decades now
braahaha
you are full of shit
>but but shit ID software

>>714490515
It's an SKG thread. All they can do is make up strawmen and reply to themselves over and over like so
>>714490498
>>714490546
Because they don't understand the thing they're supporting enough to actually argue in its favor

>>714490558
Sue with what money exactly?

>>714490279
Yet again, so you dont ignore half of my post:
You can design around the fact that you will need to change proprietary library to an open source one day. At worst you’ll get a couple of edge cases to fix.

>>714490661
no, IP does not equal game
also source code and server were lost, common in video development
good bye, no we wont return calls.

>>714490498
disingenuous faggot.

>>714490396
>muh free2play
>>nooooo, not like that
Yes, literally like that. SKG is about games sold as goods, disingenuous retard.

>>714490593
>Actually I can modify software I purchased
Legally you can't and that goes for both Europe and America, people just don't really care because it's generally harmless.
Either way we aren't talking about modding

>>714490749
your post is retarded, you have no clue about software development
>just switch to another physics engine

>>714490558
>unlawful repossession
You filed for bankruptcy, that makes it legal.

>>714490727
Anon, you don't need money to start the process

>>714490814
no, it's specifically about free2play games, which is on another level of retardation

>>714471505
Found the deranged history-ignoring hillbilly who denies that we stole this land from people who were already here.

>>714467783 (OP)
Oh, of course.

>>714467783 (OP)
Leftoids sucking multi billion dollar cock 24/7

Why the fuck are there like 30 threads for this shit at all times it's not that interesting

>>714491039
commie shills trying to push it, but they fail
their anti-gaming shit fails hard

>>714490943
I'm starting to think this furry fuck was a pro SKG plant all along because people are just signing and disregarding arguments just to get back at him and it's not like he made good points in the first place.

>Just give up, you'll never make a difference
>We are too important and powerful, we will take what we want and you will deal with it
>You will never get the signatures and if you do get the signatures it will kill videogames in EU
>You got the signatures, but they will never make it a law >>>You are here<<<
>So what if they made it a law, it is unenforceable and companies will never change their ways
>Companies might have changed their standards to continue selling games in the EU, but that doesn't mean that you won, it was going to happen anyway!
>SKG was the best thing to have happened to videogames, I was supporting it since the very beginning

>>714490770
At this point you're getting the US government involved which will guarantee lead to PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET FINED GET FINED GET FINED GET FINED.

>>714491178
>noooo, we will shoot you if you don't find the server code

>>714490936
You need money to maintain it. And if you filed for bankruptcy ,it is completely lawful to repossess your assets if you cannot pay your outstanding debts or comply with the law. Do you have any idea what you're talking about here?

>>714491039
>>714491128
It's a corporate backed campaign to convince people to buy more new games while also demoralising them. Into believing that not buying does nothing.

>>714468716
>seeing the disaster it's become when rapists get off because of their skin color
I thought you were shitting on England for a second there, then you described America and how white people get away with pretty much anything as long as they're rich. Weird that you mentioned Islam though, being as that has nothing to do with anything.

>>714491271
no, it's a commie campaign to destroy gaming, especially indies.

>>714491220
>Get held in contempt of court
>Piss of judge by being an annoying faggot
>Go to jail and literally get PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET BOI PREGNANT GET BOI PREGNANT GET BOI PREGNANT

Anon we've gone from figurative buck breaking to actual buck breaking now.

>>714473702
>le poor heckin small businesses
who cares, how about you create something of value like opening up a kiosk?
fucking pampered morons

>>714491340
>it was real in my mind

>>714487075
Both guys are very ugly.

>>714490937
imagine not being able to read

What? You want to keep the things you bought?
Literally GOMMUNISM.

>>714491252
>You need money to maintain it.
You don't, the fees happen at the end.
>it is completely lawful to repossess your assets
It's not, the onus is on the owner to sell not on the government to take. If you have enough in liquid assets you may not even have to sell to pay off any debts.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you.

>>714490558
>sue EU for unlawful repossession of property
It is lawful since it is your property and you have to either sell it to someone who will be obliged fulfil law requirements or give it up to the state for it to be sold by the state. Sorry, that’s how the bankruptcy works if you want to file for that.
>>714490564
>no, IP rights were boughted by another company before bankruptcy
You’re forced to sell it to the state then and the state handles its sale to someone else. It is usually also the shittiest offer you’re going to get
>no, you need to give us game of bankrupt company because you own the IP
“Noooo, i wrote off all my belongings to my wife you cant take them!!” tier argument
>btw. source code and server code is lost, my bad, good bye
Which makes your situation even worse because now you actually cant sell that IP and can’t pay off the fine, so you’re probably either getting a way worse offer on the bankruptcy, or your bankruptcy is getting denied and you’re going to jail

>>714491314
It doesn't matter if you're an indie dev or not, any "online only" game is developed and tested in a local, and later closed environment. The tech to make the game instance run in single player or on a local network is there from the word go, because that's how these games are developed. A game that just simply can't run locally doesn't exist.

>>714491446
manko

>>714491481
>It is lawful since it is your property and you have to either sell it to someone who will be obliged fulfil law requirements or give it up to the state for it to be sold by the state. Sorry, that’s how the bankruptcy works if you want to file for that
See >>714491460
It's completely unlawful for it to be forcibly repossessed.

>>714491481
>commies try to force companies even more to do exactly what they say
>yooooouuuu can't sell your IPs
>yooooouuuu have to give everything to the commie EU

>>714491647
sounds based

>>714491503
>local environment
>with servers
you are retarded, got it
>no, no you see these servers are totally optional

>>714491418
That's because you'll cough up the money before it ever comes to that. Or enable offline functionality.

>>714491162
Honestly wouldn't surprise me. Every time that guy opens his mouth it's just another 500 word essay on why actually it's fine for publishers to brick your game and you should thank them for the privilege. Dude's so consistently wrong it starts looking deliberate. Either a plant or terminally stuck in contrarian gear.

>>714491710
for a commie, who will soon get a bullet in his head, sure.

>>714491730
Did you know that your PC, your phone, your car, even your fucking fridge, is hosting various servers?

>>714491753
It's a noble sentiment to think that someone would go to such lengths to create himself into a villain just to boost a cause. But I think in this case he really is just a retard.

>>714491730
Damn you're right, local server instances have never existed. Fuck! You got me there with that brilliant argument, there's no way a private individual could host their own server! And they especially couldn't rent server space to host the instance, either! Damn, if only I'd thought of that! There's just no possible way for an open source community effort to run something as demanding as, say, WoW on private servers. It just can't be done, goddamnit!

>>714491852
>your fridge
no
>your phone
ha, I'm not retarded, only pebs have these shitphones

>>714491845
Who will give me the bullet?

>>714491481
>You’re forced to sell it to the state
No, it's direct to your debtors if you have to sell to settle those debts.
Also please learn what equity means.

>>714491902
>I will just host Fortnite on my private PC lel
>that's what Epic is totally doing
retard
R_E_T_A_R_D

you know what exists?
development SERVERS
test SERVERS
and
production SERVERS

This kills the shill.

>>714491753
Maldavius is just a nepo baby industry shill, who was part of the industry, and whose daddy was part of the industry, and both count being part of the corporation as their proudest moments. Sucking the corporate boot is literally in his blood, and he'll do it, no matter what kind of dumb shit he has to spew.

>>714492006
I mean, yeah it does kill skg shills.

>>714492004
All hosted on an aging Dell in a closet.

>>714491601
>It's completely unlawful for it to be forcibly repossessed.
It is completely legal, you either sell it yourself or gov sells it on your behalf. What that post means is that the government cant take IP from you without compensating you for it. You are still forced to sell.
>if you have enough liquid assets
The responsibility to release the EoS plan will be tied to IP owner. If you still own IP after the bankruptcy you’ll still have to release the EoS version. If you sold the IP, the one who purchased it will have to release the EoS version.

>>714492004
I know! I agreed with you! There's no possible way for anyone other than a studio to host a community server, or anything stupid like that! It's just impossible. No way you can just RENT server space, maybe finance it with ads, and use those to run the game. It just can't be done. Completely outrageous to think that one could simply take the server binaries and transfer them to another server. Utterly ludicrous! I mean damn, those industry servers are just so damn special, you couldn't possibly ever duplicate that. And really, I don't think there's even a single example of a game that is hosted on private servers, or where the server architecture was reverse-engineered in order to provide private servers to play on. And any games where the official servers have been shut off? Fucking dead in the water, not a single one has ever been revived through a community effort. Just plain impossible.

skiggers longing for the good old days when the only thing standing in their way to free stuff was fatguys and gore

>>714492278
>not just running the server on your PC

>>714490940
stop worshipping losers libtard

>>714492387
No, DUDE have you not been paying attention? It CAN'T be done! It's fucking impossible! That other anon said so!

>>714492568
It's over...

The port was 27015 by the way.

>>714490940
Indians stole land from each other. Indians even allied with English and French armies to help them conquer other Indian tribes. Indians weren't even the first people on the continent. Clovis people from Europe got here first.

>>714491647
You will not be allowed to scam people no matter how hard you try, jew.

>>714492494
It's not a "liberal" point of view to acknowledge history, brainlet.

>>714491970
Anon, if you can’t pay off a debt to the state, who do you think your debtor is

>>714492278
>indie can't afford to pay for servers because of lack of income
>just do ads, brah
I got an idea, let's change all multiplayer games to a subscription model.

>americans get the rights the EU is willing to fight for
kek

>>714492648
>Clovis people
...who the fuck do you think the American Indians were descended from? Do you think the Clovis just up and left and then the Indians sprung up out of the soil? Fucking moron.

>>714492387
>my PC has a gorillion of RAM
doubt
>and 5000 cores
doubt

>>714492756
Oh, I think I get it. You're just genuinely too young to know about community servers financing themselves with ads. You should close this tab, you need to be 18 to use this side, buster!

>>714492841
Gorillion for you maybe.

>>714492667

>>714492835
Clovis and Indians have no genetic link. The Clovis died out from a continent-wide natural disaster. You know nothing about this subject.

>>714467783 (OP)
>Original user solution: "Force developers to keep all games playable forever, provide deployment documentation, and ensure players can never be locked out"
>Reframed solution: "Extend right-to-repair to games and permit non-commercial use of copyrighted assets for preservation"
>The second approach is more actionable, legally coherent, and works within existing frameworks. It addresses the core need (game preservation) without creating impossible obligations for developers.
This pseud is actually parroting Thor's false narrative and then presents the actual demands of SKG as his own idea, he's high on his own farts.

>>714492865
>Fortnite is using a hl-server.exe

>>714491340
>GET BOI PREGNANT GET BOI PREGNANT GET BOI PREGNANT
why are skgtrannies so unhinged and deranged

THE NAME IS THOR, SAY IT

>>714491647
>>yooooouuuu have to give everything to the EU
based. corpos have proved time and time again that they're incapable of storing their source code and assets properly. it's high time they were given to a library and archive with the solemn task of preserving them for posterity

>>714492841
It's a commonly held misconception that server hosting requires powerful hardware. On the contrary, in most cases running a server is less resource intensive than running the client of whatever game you are hosting. Having said that, I think my ram would hold up, even if my CPU is getting old.

>>714467783 (OP)
Give me an archive.is link or i won't read the article op....

>>714475905
>if it goes through it's likely going to be used as an excuse to massive increase the baseline price of games across the board

I doubt it, but even if it does, fine

I'd gladly start paying 100 - 120 USD for games if there were a guarantee that they'd work offline or the community was able to work on private servers or modified builds without risk of being sued

>>714493047
Jason

>>714493096
You need 2 TB of RAM minimum and 8 CPUs on a single motherboard. You SKGtrannies are retarded

>>714492975
It's running the UTds exe instead

>>714492912
>the leader of the only branch of EU government that is not elected likes jews
>EU parliament(elected) calls gaza genocide
>Most of council do too
Gee I wonder

>>714493096
>Fortnite NA West runs on a 10 year old Dell

>>714493212
>You need 2 TB of RAM minimum
For what data?

>>714493212
Moron. You can host multiplayer servers on dogshit hardware from 20 years ago. 4chan is hosted on old Dell servers from 2010.

>>714493308
lmao

>>714493273
Fortnite NA West has to host millions of people, something an average Joe won't have to do if he wants to play with his lads, or with the local community. The hardware requirements are steep due to having to scale the project vertically. By itself, Fortnite would not be difficult to host.

>>714475973
What the fuck is a book, a TTRPG, the average board game then you stupid fucking nigger.

SEETHE burger! seethe!

>>714493367
>save the game
>well only for hundred people lol
>and with the same content over and over again lol
you make no sense

>>714493367
>Fortnite NA West has to host millions of people
Not true.
Their MTX database cluster might, but each game session instance doesn't hold more than a hundred people at a time.

>>714467783 (OP)
Can I get a QRD on all this shit? I haven't visited /v/ in months because I got tired of the jews ruining every game and nothing excites me anymore

>>714493456
You are just lacking in intellect, that's not my problem.

>>714493464
I'm just being generous in my assessments.

>>714493456
What here makes no sense?

>>714493096
>>714493367
cultured gentlemen
>>714493456
>>714493212
low iq techlet retards, usual on /v/eddit

>>714493516
summed up in this pic
TL;DR commies are retarded

>>714484602
is this real?

>>714493532
the goal is not met, therefore it's retarded.

Here are the specs of a fortnite server hosting multiple games at the same time
https://instances.vantage.sh/aws/ec2/c4.8xlarge

>>714493516
EU petition that asks all developers to provide an EoS patch that will make the game playable even after the official servers are shut down just passed. It will be presented to EU government and in half a year they have to give a response. Some (((people))) are seething

>>714493714
The goal is met since the game is playable.

>>714493714
>people that want to play the game can self host and play the game
How exactly does this not meet the goal?

>>714493827
Oh, I see. So nothing's gonna happen an we're gonna get fucked (as usual).
>petition
>just passed
Why the fuck would the jews listen to a petition

>>714475905
With the presence of EoS features, they can price their shit up as much as they want, since by the end of it, you can still get your pirated copy that will work.

>>714493894
no

>>714493516
it's an initiative to stop corpos from pulling the plug on games. basically it aims to stop publishers from taking down games and/or their online components. it applies to both retail and live-service games
tl;dr games should go back to the half-life, CS, warcraft 3 era

>>714493963
Because for all its flaws, the EU is heavily pro-consumer.

>>714493935
>100 people can play it now
>that meets the goal
>without Fortnite content updates, just play the same until your eyes bleed
>that meets the goal

>>714493963
It's not a petition, it's a government initiative, on the same legal level as voting when it comes to the seriousness of its implementation when it gets the attention of the government body.

>>714494057
Yes. That's all this is asking for.
>>714494057
>>100 people can play it now
100 times however many people choose to host

>>714494008
>Counter-Shitted
nope, boring as fuck and gambling

>>714493963
It is to EU government and is legally binding(as in they must provide a response and reasoning for the response)

>>714494117
>legal level
>it's a mandate
So nothing then.

>>714494057
Yes? The game works after the servers are shut down, people who want to play it can play it. Where is the problem?

>>714494057
Yes, that meets the goal. And what's up with that arbitrary "100 people" mark? Would it be okay if it was 4 x 255 people instead?
>Fortnite content updates
It's a feature complete shooter. It has all the content it already needs.

>>714484363
lmao look at the replies
the meltdown when SKG gets tossed out of parliament after being skimmed through for 5 minutes is going to be biblical, like nothing /v/ has ever seen, the meltdowns on youtube and shitter are gong to be even better

you people know next to nothing about EU law, server architecture/binaries, how modern online games function, or legal precedent

>>714494131
that makes no sense.

also
>Fortnite does not make money anymore
>Troons totally hosting servers
>Troons now ask for a donation subscription to fund it all
>turn free2play game into a paid game

>>714494132
counter strike 1.6 doesn't have lootboxes or microtransactions. what the fuck are you talking about you dumb zoomer

>>714494187
It's more than anyone else had done so far for the sake of videogames. You'd think that an industry that makes more money than movies and music combined would not permit for its most profitable bodies to cultivate a market where they can take away the product from the consumer at any given time after money changed hands, but what do I know?

>>714494252
Are you unable to envision multiple "Fortnites"?

>>714494210
>it works
>it only has 50 players
choose one

>>714493691
I don't know the validity of the pirate tweet, but the code is from yandere dev.

>>714494287
that was shit too
>play the same shitty maps over and over and over again
only NPCs would do that.

>>714494295
>"the industry" makes every game and every indie is a millionaire and no studios get closed down

>>714494287
He wasn't yet alive when 1.6 was a thing. Or 1.5

>>714494305
Child, even as low as 32 people per server would still be a functional playable state.

>>714494305
Original fortnite only works for 100 players at a time, whats your point here

>>714494298
that would even be more retarded.

>>714494394
>patch Fortnite so that it's a single player Battle Royale
>yay, goals were totally met

>>714494384
>xir needs her dopamine hit every week with new slop to be engaged
over for zoomies

>>714494384
CS had a wealth of user generated content, if you played the same maps, that was your own fault entirely.

>>714494440
>at a time

>>714494463
It has always been a shit game with RNG spread
shit content shit gameplay and fucking boring
also tons of cheaters, because Valve doesn't care

>>714494457
Oh I get it now - You don't understand what a server is.
You think there's only one "Fortnite" capable of existing. Only one Instagram, One tiktok or whatever else you barely comprehend.

Automated Matchmaking has been the death of zoomer gaming.

>>714494567
That was only a problem on the official servers, perhaps you should have joined a local community that curated the servers. Or made and hosted your own where you would ban the cheaters whenever they showed up.

>>714494567
>it was o-only the same f-five maps!
>ok, so what if it had countless community made maps, th-they all sucked!
holy mindbroken shills batman

>>714494567
>at a time
You’ve seen more than 100 people in one lobby? Because community server is just that, a lobby that restarts after the game ends

>>714494460
>wanting new content is le dopamine
I know you are used to Valve slop and you are used to Valve being fucking lazy, but not every game dev is this shitty.

If Counter-Shitted was made by Epic, it wouldn't have
a) removed a paid game
b) pretended that meme grenades make a new game
c) would get new maps every few months
d) would get new content almost every 2 weeks
e) no loot box shit
f) no selling the same shitty game over and over again
just imagine how much fun that would be.

>>714492135
>or gov sells it on your behalf
No. That's unlawful, it's not their property or even responsibility to repossess, the responsibility falls on the debtors. This isn't something you can argue
>will be tied to IP owner
Not how that works either. Having a property doesn't mean you have the assets and/or legal responsibility.
Also if you don't have the money but still own the property you wouldn't be under legal obligation to spend what you don't have.

>>714494743
>only 100 people play at one time
right now it says 80k people are playing zero build only

>>714494752
>pajeet shill ranting about things he wasn't even alive for
lel

>>714494795
>That's unlawful
as if the commie EU would care about that.
They froze the bank accounts of private Russians and want to grab that money, which will probably be the last thing they are going to do.

>>714494838
>still thinks the game is a single server
I should have seen this from the start.

>>714494838
And how many people are needed to fill one zero build lobby?

>>714494850
>Steamie crying
sad

oh and
>g) get free games every week

>>714494838
I would HIGHLY recommend you just take the L here and stop posting my guy

>>714494752
>she's still talking about csgo

>>714493516
>people asking EU for pro-consumer laws
>Americans go absolutely apeshit because any form of pushback against billion dollar corporations is literally communism

>>714494925
the point is that a single server does not replicate Fortnite.

>>714494928
okay, let's go with your retarded claim

>Fortnite now has a server browser
>sorry, this single loby is full
>sorry, this single loby is full1
>sorry, this single loby is full2
>sorry, this single loby is full3
>sorry, this single loby is full4
>sorry, this single loby is full5
brilliant

>>714495089
forcing software developers to develop a certain way is literally communism

>>714469223
I already purchased the game, and i woud like to play that game.

You niggas act like we woud need 2 server farms the size of an nuclear plant and an actual nuclear plant to power a 10 year old server.
The guildwars niggas keep their game alive for 2 pennies a day.
The only reason shit gets EoS is because they want to sell you a new(shittier) Version of the same ass game or some black suit fucked up and tanked the company.

Mark my words, we will soon buy renting licenses, you will own nothing.
Because we didnt care enough to fight back.

>>714495101
>>sorry, this single loby is full
The world's most popular game is going to have *many* servers.
Even dead games with no more than a dozen active players still have a hundreds of empty lobbies waiting for someone to join.

>>714495179
YOU KANN NOT DO THAT
JAWOHL
HEIL LEYEN

>>714495101
Usually if the game can’t be joined mid session you wont see lobbies that are full/mid-session or you will have a flag to filter them
>all lobbies are full
Just host yours then?

total live service death

>>714487249
Kill yourself. Hope this helps, anon.

>>714495281
>just spend $5000 per server
>we will fund it with ads
you are retarded, got it
>no central server
okay, so you need to enter 100000 IP addresses manually, what a brilliant idea

>>714495303
>filter them
without a central server involved?
are you going back from your original goal posts?

>>714495989
>$5000 per server
Pennies, actually. Your shitty phone can likely run a 32-man server.

>>714496064
You dont need (((central))) to filter, just the server browser and server’s ability to send its status.
>going back on goal posts
In what way

>>714496064
>without a central server involved?
Hosting a master server list for other servers to report to requires a fraction of the resources of hosting a lobby.

>>714496161
>pennies actually
https://instances.vantage.sh/aws/ec2/c4.8xlarge

>>714496220
>server browser
>which gets all the IP addresses through black magic

>>714496320
This runs shitton of lobbies at once, community server will run 1 at a time

>>714496161
and who will pay for Easy Anti Cheat?
>but well we will just drop it
So the totally preserved game will be full of cheaters and hackers

>>714496408
DNS

>>714496408
Hosting server list is 0.000001 bux per millenia and most community servers would like to be on as many server browsers as possible. You can also enter IPs manually and the browser will save them