Thread 714855684

>Takes almost 3 years for this game to finally become good
Why is FatShark so incompetent?

>>714855684 (OP)
>still no bots

Is it actually good now? Stopped playing around when they added the first new mission and when every subsequent patch made my game run worse and worse

>>714855737
it's... very good for a $13 game, but if you paid full price you should still be livid.

>>714855718
That a good thing or bad thing?

>>714855684 (OP)
It still doesn’t look good to me. Vermintide had a lot of variety. Every time I check this game it’s someone walking down a generic heckin grim dark hallway.

What’d they add like 1 new spec? Does it have a roguelite mode yet?

>>714855684 (OP)
>both game and server performance are still complete utter dogshit

>>714856020
its bad because you can't play the game unless there's other players. even for a private game you need at least one more player.

>>714855684 (OP)
12 fucking dollars for the new DLC class , eventually my autism will compel me to cave in and complete the roster but im not fucking doin it until they drop that price

>>714857480
It’s designed from the bottom up to force cosmetics on you.
No truly private servers for you, because playing alone means there’s nobody to potentially advertise make you look like a peasant for not buying the latest rotation. It’s also why the hub is so shit and forced third person; no platforming or weird bits of the hub to discover, you have to look at the cosmetics you’re missing out on!

>>714858156
This might work if the paid cosmetics weren't shit
The best ones are either the standard-issue grunt armor or the pre-release stuff

>>714857058
>both game and server performance are still complete utter dogshit
>had 0 network lag
>running the game on last-last gen hardware
>a fucking gtx1070ti
>+60fps on low
sure it looks like ass but its very playable.

>>714855985
well put, the fact it needs a lot of mods for basic QOL like a quick sacrifice button is telling of the "progress"

>>714855737
It's basically at the point now that Vermintide 2 was at launch, minus the second faction but plus some better movement and shooting.

Might come back and give it another go.
What is some current go to builds for psyker?

>>714858690
Gameplay wise it’s around just after they unfucked the game from the winds of magic patch, but in terms of content it’s around bogenhafen

>>714858156
The cosmetics are both low effort and high price, such that it makes me wonder how even the fattest whales justify buying them. At least it means normal people shouldn't feel any desire whatsoever to buy them.
It feels like the cosmetics are a directive from tencent but fatshark being fatshark they implemented them in the way that's also the least likely to make them money

>>714858690
They released the game at least two years early, it seems. A year for the class rework, a year for the Xbox port and yet another year for the PS5 port to be where they finally should have been less than a year after release. Now they can finally get to work on the actual game!

>>714855718
I always have teammates with [BOT] by their names when I start up a mission without waiting for others to join though.

>>714858852
I don't see why would anyone come back because all of the 4 classes play almost the same.
I mean there's not much you can do, game is really limited in this sense.
I got ~40 hours out of it and even that was too repetitive.

>>714855684 (OP)
But it isn't good.

>>714860127
>because all of the 4 classes play almost the same.
If you feel like all 4 base classes are same-y then how do you feel about the devs claim that they have 12 classes in total due to the class tree?

>>714855718
it does have bots though

>>714856289
Chaos wastes came out 5 years after rat slayer 2 released, with any luck fatshit will give darktide that in 2 years but I highly doubt it considering how dumb they are

Games just get released in late alpha or early beta now and are then updated incrementally. It's what Early Access has brought about and I loathe Valve/Steam for that. That way, they can recoup development costs earlier, outsource a lot of testing and risk to paying customers. Gamers eat it up anyway. There are always enough idiots with no impulse control to buy into it.

>>714856289
It does have a new roguelite mode called Mortis Trials but it isn't nearly as interesting as Chaos Wastes

>>714861173
I ALMOST pity the CM, between having to tell people it isn't the much anticipated chaos waste and how one of the vid clearly hinting at radium weapons all to say "it's just the good ol' plasma gun"

>>714855684 (OP)
>game is mediocre and buggy
>clearly unfinished and lacking in content
>40k fans shill it
do 40k fans have the lowest possible standards?

>>714856289
>it’s someone walking down a generic heckin grim dark hallway.
40chudden love that shit, that's why their setting fucking sucks ass

>>714860941
Where? I logged in yesterday to try the new class and when i switched to private game it stll said i needed to invite other players

Then queued for 5 mins with no games and quit to play palworld instead

>>714861565
don't think you can use them on private games but they will fill in slots on a normal game if you start without a full team or if people quit

>>714861393
I don't and it's honestly fucking lazy. Hive cities aren't just dark corridors. To be fair, the game does have some varied areas, but yeah, it's too much of the same dark corridors.

The problem is that they set it in a single Hive City in the first place. They could have instead made a game where you go to different planets or at least different areas on a planet, or at least different areas on a fucking continent.

>>714855737
It's the same game

>>714858690
Still no red weapons though

>>714861262
Rad weapons wouldn't be inspiring the reactions the characters in the video are having. I think Fatshark are just THAT retarded.

>>714862401
>weapons so toxic even the skittaries fall ill
>they clearly express the symptoms of radiation
>they even have to take pills

but sure it's not RAD weapons

>>714862482
>Whoah did you see that?
>Regular gun that is designed to give you cancer

>>714861947
Hive city itself can be varied too: see Necromunda. Its just Fatshark lacking vision. In addition go edgy dark corridors there's swampy corpse pits with massive machines for grinding organic matter down to corpse starch, an old fusion reactor with gigantic sump beast hanging overhead feeding on it, a massive cargo train multiple hundred meters wide (not another dark corridor on wheels in normal sized train like in Darktide) and dark caverns lit by fluorescent fungi crawling with Genestealers to name a few.

>>714857759
I fucking love pictures like this do you have more

>>714862596
it uses radiation and is meant for mechanicus soldiers, why normal soldiers got a hold of it we don't know nor care. Maybe it was desperation but it could have at least introduced new weapons with DOTs

Gave up on this shit a while ago. Is it even worth coming back? It got boring very quickly.

>ogryn
>best class ever made
>stuck in a boring shit game
it hurts

>>714862705
some egregious parts like the crafting have been made less cancer (now takes a long time but at least you don't have RNG and the progress is shared between classes for the same weapon type). New maps are cool enough and go above "ugly factory", musics is still a banger but the servers are still eating your inputs

>>714862647
Yeah it uses radiation to poison the area. It's just that the soldiers in the video are acting as if they've been given some crazy weapons. Radium rifles are fairly mundane.

>>714862952
how the average joe knows about the weapons of the mechanicus? In universe they are told to praise the God Emperor and that's it

>>714861947
>The problem is that they set it in a single Hive City in the first place. They could have instead made a game where you go to different planets or at least different areas on a planet, or at least different areas on a fucking continent.
The whole character creator meme disposable mook idea was a mistake as well. They should have had a radical Inquisitor as their version of Olesya and that way they could have justified fucking anyone as working under him. Imperium troopers, wild psykers, skitarii, assassins, cops, eldar, kroot, even orks.

>>714859378
>Now they can finally get to work on the actual game!
>Finally release a new class after almost 3 years
So besides them now going to be adding new classes, when will they add a whole new faction to fight? Only one that makes sense is a Genestealer Cult.

>>714855684 (OP)
Now that the dust has settled, was the new class good?

>>714863325
The lore is hinting that Aeldari might be entering the game and possibly be a damn Xenos faction as there's Corsairs in the solar system in Atoma constantly trying to get the Mourningstar's attention.

>>714863724
That would be so fucking retarded that I now believe your post wholesale without a source.

>>714863724
>faction
Class*
Not faction, a Xenos class.

>>714855684 (OP)
No single player, no buy. Until I can just private match with bots, it's still a worse game than Vermintide 1.

>>714863771
Not him but here you go. There's more dialogue ending with Rannick and morrow concluding that the aeldari want a meeting.

>>714855718
it's coming anon don't worry

>>714863669
I've leveled it up to 30. The only good ranged weapon for it is the executioner shotgun. The class ultimates are whatevs. It's okay/10.

>>714863952
>2022
How did they manage to fumble such a basic feature that many other good co-op games have day 1, for nearly 3 years?

>>714863912
Imperiumchuds are gonna FREAK

>>714857759
When it gets nerfed to the ground? It's currently so ridiculously OP you have to be a total retard to play bad, and nerfs are bound to happen.
>shotgun with nearly pinpoint accuracy, carapace piercing pellets, and ogryn-tier damage
>shotgun with a shield that's better than any other main game shotgun but worse than the first shotty i mentioned (probably even better, needs testing with block/parry-related stuff)
>baton that deals tremendous amounts of damage and can spam light attacks to annihilate everything
>dog that kills specials/elites just fine, dropkicks poobursters away from you, and also doubles as an electric grenade
>unconditional +10% dmg talents, conditional talents that boost dmg are easy to use because they basically require killing, which you have no problem with
>all active skills are save buttons and give useful buffs or enhance your performance even further

>>714855684 (OP)
>Still no plague Marine boss fight

>>714864276
Death guard chuds would seethe really hard if a marine gets killed by a bunch of prison trash.

>>714864042
they simply lied, as they always do

>>714864081
>dropkicks poobursters away from you
Played it on release and it just to push them towards you.

>>714864276
I'm gonna laugh if they somehow end up adding a Space Marine class because at that point they might as well add everything Imperium related. And if they add a Xenos class like it's being hinted at, that opens up the doorway to shit like Tau and Kroots.

>>714863912
>Get an Eldar class
>One of the personalities is basically Yrliet, getting bullied by everyone, even her fellow Eldar

>>714863912
It couldn't be worse than arbites.

>>714864326
Fucking tanks get taken out by chink drones these days, comparing dick sizes doesn't matter, a gun is a gun

>>714864390
Skill issue

>>714864630
you underestimate how autistic space marine fags are

>>714863459
A new faction would make sense, but FS have taken so long to make smaller bits of content I would take more weapons or classes first unless there's also a lot of new maps and gameplay changes to go along with a new faction

>>714864326
Don't know why people are so scared of violating the sanctity of space marines when the player characters have power/plasma weapons, ogryns, and psykers. We're now in this stupid situtation where people think that space marines can only be killed by other space marines or named characters when there's a million things in 40k that can turn a space marine into paste. The again, it's nice having a 40k game where space marines are not included.

>>714863669
I think it's boring and annoying to play with but it's disgustingly strong for virtually no skill investment.

>>714863669
Lame. There's no catharsis in the new class unlike using plasma vet, flamer zealot, force sword psyker or pickaxe ogryn.

>>714864804
Would they really mind if it was like the VT2 Chaos Champions where it was a long fight of whittling down and evasion? Literally the my speed is superior meme.
>actually muhreens are supersonic fast and-
Yeah and they eat brains and spit acid, none of that wacky lore shit is actually shown on screen ever.

>>714864630
The devs have said that you're a normal guy and space marines are overpowered so you'd have no chance against them.
Please don't ask how your guy can possibly be normal when you kill hundreds of enemies every mission, that's just a thing that happens.

>>714863325
I just want an imperial mercenary ork. I don't care if it doesn't make sense in the lore, I just want an ork living in imperial society and watching the shenanigans unfold.

The next class is listed as "Broker" in the game files. The Arbites was listed as "Adamant". Likely to be the much anticipated Hive ganger class.

>>714865210
Yes they would
>actually muhreens are supersonic fast and-
that's exactly why, even though Im prety sure in the lore there are ogryns that have skull-fucked marines before

>>714865243
>Please don't ask how your guy can possibly be normal when you kill hundreds of enemies every mission
The higher tier difficuly gameplay actually isn't canon. In all the short stories they've made for the game lore the worst it gets is uprising level bad.

>>714865243
>hop over to Owlcat's Rogue Trader
>a literally who demonfucker bitch and her boytoy Inquisitor destroyed an entire Craftworld by accident
>hop back to DT
>a group of people that wield weapons that go through ceramite absolutely could not outgun and kill a single Marine because uhhh they just can't OK?!?? Their sanctity must be preserved!
So it's just gonna be like that huh

>>714865448
Inquistor destroying planets is something not unheard of. bunch of no name guys eliminating a space marine in single combat is.

>>714865385
Lore depends entirely on which side the lore is about. If it's in an imperium book a chaos terminator will shoot the shit out of an ogryn and the ogryn will tank it without noticing and punch his head off. If it's a chaos book then the world's weakest csm will shoot the eyes out of an entire squad of ogryn in under a second.
It's the same way marines go from immune to anything but anti tank weapons to being killed by a few guardsmen focus firing.

>>714865591
>bunch of no name guys eliminating a space marine in single combat is.
CSMs have been gunned down by Imperial Guard literally whos

>>714864432
if anything i can see an inquisitor and comissar classes being added

>>714864042
Bots have always existed in the game even in the pre-release early access? You just can't purposely use them.

>>714855684 (OP)
still runs like absolute dogshit

>>714865248
Blood Axes exist. They're not pro Imperium or anything but they're mercenaries that have worked for them.

>>714865645
yea with rockets and heavy weapons.

>>714865428
You still kill hundreds of enemies even on uprising though. There are a lot of bad guys in the game.

>>714865794
Sounds cool. Do they have a book or some story revolving around them?
Mainly I just want to see some planetary nobility welcoming an inquisitor and then having their jaws drop when they see orkz rolling up in the retinue.

>>714863325
Absolutely. When they announced Vermintide40k I was kind of excited. Then they presented the retarded random-grunt concept and I remembered why I don't get excited anymore. The setting literally permits almost anything, but they went with the most boring idea.

>>714855684 (OP)
>Why is FatShark so incompetent?
All Swedish game devs are

>>714865648
Unless you're supposed to be playing the most bitch tier Inquisitor that the Imperium has shit out, that class makes no sense. The rejects are already taking orders from an Inquisitor's interrogator.

>>714866000
Considering how fucking garbage the named "story" characters in Darktide are, maybe the personality void character creator was a blessing in disguise.
I'm just worried about the inevitable VT3 or smegmar spinoff.

>>714865897
It is mentioned that surviving more than 5 missions is a feat that scant few of the rejects have achieved. The 5 rejects that (you) play as are the chosen ones. They would probably become named characters in the next game.

>>714865784
>guy who is running this game on a 760 and intel pentium 3

>>714855684 (OP)
They're not incompetent, they are lazy. Like most swedes.

>>714866246
Fatshart slept so Arrowhead could go on holidays.

>>714866246
doesn't help they are also contemptful toward their playerbase and gather feedback from jewtubers

3 years later and they're still doing reworks in every major patch
what's the next rework bros

>>714860873
That was a lie because they said they were going to release new classes for free and they had released ZERO (one now, and its paid, and it is still basically the same)

>>714864890
>when the player characters have power/plasma weapons, ogryns, and psykers
Only the psyker would win, the others would get crushed to a pulp even when if they have power weapons.

>>714866761
Ogryns have molested Marines in 1v1s before.
But again, "lore" depends on who you want to wank and what plastic you want to sell this week.

>>714865243
Given the rejects have taken out daemonhosts (albeit weak ones) and beasts of nurgle, which are used as living siege weapons, a peepoo marine isn’t that much of a stretch. They’re even the slowest ones, which diminishes the single greatest advantage a marine has over normal humans and ogryn

>>714866848
Ogryns don't have the superhuman speed, automated stim injections of the marine suit and thousand other advantages that marines have over them. I'm sure in the heat of a big battle an ogryn could get a drop on a marine by mashing his head open with a big rock or something but it wouldn't happen in a 1v1.

>>714866198
i have a 12400 and RX 7600, it's a poorfag build sure but it's better than their recommended specs, yet i struggle with stutter and general instability

>>714865428
Rogue Trader references Darktide about some Arbites being a 1 man army in the Atoma district.

>>714867870
>12400
Spotted the issue

>>714868094
and darktide references rogue trader by mentioning that the mourningstar is haunted.

>>714866368
Apparently crafting or whatever the fuck with Hadron. That's getting reworked.

>>714868329
oh yeah, we're getting reworks of stuff that had already been reworked before
we're winning bros

>>714868329
Again?

>>714868553
Yes they're going to make everything more expensive so you can spend more time grinding.

>>714867274
>>714867119
>>714865591
>>714865243
Ogryn - S5. T6
Spess muhreen S4. T4
They can wank off over all manner of silly books and muh lore nonsense, but by the fuckin rules of the tabletop—the literal thing that ALL this shit is based off— the ogryn alone would delete a space marine.

>>714855684 (OP)
>still no Repentia Class

>>714870075
Doesn't matter. SM have better weapons which could deal more wounds.

>>714870620
It's unlikely that repentia would even be a skin since that would mean restricting it to body type B. It is s*xist.

>>714871135
Didn't VT already do that?

>>714855684 (OP)
sounds like an absolute success to me
the cattle buying into this are the incompetent ones

>>714871343
In VT you play as named characters, retard

>>714871514
You brainlets said the same thing regarding Arby's not being rejects

>>714871647
>fatshart completely changes their setup and ruins a huge selling point of VT to justify their character creator
>then they release a class that contradicts that very setup
Swedes...

>>714855684 (OP)
uhh, sounds like regular ass business to me?
what do you think a publisher is gonna do, have the game developed for another 3 years behind the scenes making no money, or release a minimum viable product so they can make money from retards?

good job, retard.

>>714855684 (OP)
>buff the already broken paid DLC class further into overpowered braindead territory (the dog alone now passively horde clears better than a psyker with inferno staff)
>leave several maps uncompletable due to new crashing issues
>people still disconnecting left and right
>call it a day and have 90% of the studio leave for summer vacation
classic sweeden

>>714871821
>the dog alone now passively horde clears better than a psyker with inferno staff
What's the about? When I played it on release, the dog was useless against hordes.

>>714871343
Vt characters are named you braindead coomer

>>714871919
The razor-jaw talent (8 stacks of bleed to enemies in range of pounce) wasn't applying correctly. Now whenever the dog pounces, razor jaw not only correctly applies the 8 stacks of bleed to anything within 2 meters of the dog, but this same bleed ALSO stacks properly with damage bonuses from talents. The damage bonuses that the dog gets from talents is extremely large.
The dog is also now bleeding/electrocuting the shit out of shield captains and will take out at least half of their HP even while the shield is up.
Pic rel is a havoc 37 I think, middle is me playing arbites and the other two are ogryns (vet disconnected before the end of game so not on scoreboard)

>>714871919
now the bleed talent (razor something something) actually works

>>714871919
There is a skill that gives the dog aoe bleed damage every time it pounces an enemy. Couple that with the electroshock ability and it easily deletes hordes, maniacs and maulers

>>714872317
>>714872324
>>714872391
Don't worry. The class will be nerfed to dogshit once the DLC stops selling. Typical FS tactics.

>every class gets a buff or rework
>Vet still has nothing

>>714872854
can't wait for the shitstorm

>>714860127
>I don't see why would anyone come back because all of the 4 classes play almost the same.
lol what
There are a lot of things wrong with this game and a whole fucking lot to complain about but this is completely retarded

>>714872971
>NOOO I ONLY GOT IRON WILL, BLEED GRENADE WITH RENDING BUG, INFINITE AMMO, A SHOUT AND THE PLASMA
sorry you only got the shovel, the duelling sword as good melees little nigga

>>714873074
Where's my power axe and plasma pistol Fatshark?

>>714873074
I don't like the Plasma.

>>714873135
>>714873148
then use the bolter or bolt pistol little timmy

>>714872971
Zealot is really boring to play. It's perk tree needs a rework more than anything.

>>714873206
NO
MELTA OR [redacted]

>Why is FatShark so incompetent?
Do you people really not remember Lead and Gold:Gangs of the Old West? Worst purchase I ever made, spent the majority of the 3 hours I spent in-game in the server browser trying to connect to a game, played a total of three matches, and the Gunslinger class dominated the entire time the game existed because who cares about balance.
I learned way back then to not touch anything FatShark was associated with.

>>714871821
They fixed the bug which makes the dog apply puncture on electrocution. It's not as OP against bosses anymore.

>>714870620
Considering every female face looks like a halloween mask stretched haphazardly across a bunch of potatoes, I don't mind all that much.

>>714873784
It's 40k, not your anime waifu ff14 troon game chud.

Should I buy this shit or stick to just playing L4D2 a couple of times a year?

>>714873717
I know that they fixed that interaction, but SOMETHING is still going on. I would wager the dog's damage talents being applied to the pounce bleeds makes them an order of magnitude more potent, especially when added to the electrocution dot. High havoc captains were bleeding out through their shields ridiculously quickly and easily.

>>714874151
40k is woke?????

>>714873903
the first person melee combat in the tide games is unmatched in my opinion. incredibly satisfying games. the moaning about the series generally comes from veteran players and how fatshart take forever to actually add stuff

GARNAGE SHIT GAME TRASH WORTHLESS PIECE OF POOP ON LAUNCH
FUCK THIS GAME AND FUCK YOU

>>714874326
haha typo

>>714855684 (OP)
They aren't incompetent. They just work at a leisury swedish pace.

>>714874326
It shits on every other coop game on the market, though.

>>714874326
ok killing floor 3 shill

Man /coopg/ wouldn't like this thread at all.

>>714855684 (OP)
I want to be good at melee focused Ogryn. I want to be a benefit to my team.

I am your havoc 40 psyker and I carry your team. Reply with a "thank you"

>>714864276
Wolfer got humbled so it would be simple enough for a plague marine character to be the next big threat aiding Admonition

>>714878546
>revives you for the 17th time this run (we're only 1/3 through the map)

>>714877016
Tanner was right about coopg

I honestly think this is one of the best horde shooters on the market but the game only gets good when you reach max difficulty. Everything before it is just a boring grind per character to reach level 30.
Also the stupid party system for havoc SUCKS (and leveling in havoc also sucks because it's broken and doesn't start you at havoc 14 for beating an auric mission). Why can't it have normal quick-play matchmaking like the regular modes?

>>714878714
Biggest tranny could shit on them and I would agree with him. I honestly think it's just unironic paid Fagshart shills venting there. Maybe even the devs. The amount of shit or blatantly false takes about the game is fucking staggering(they all cleared havoc 40 btw). Not even mentioning how they suck off Fagshart at every opportunity.

>>714873894
You can have your realistic, grimdark faces without making them cartoonishly ugly, lumpy, and misshapen. There's degrees here.

>>714855684 (OP)
>finally become good
where?

>>714857759
>Check it out
>12 bucks
>Charging people more to play their unfinished product
Yeah glad I quit playing a while ago.

>>714865385
My lore nerd friend keeps telling me that Ogryns are strong enough to literally rip marines limb from limb. Also from playing the Space Marine games, Marines in those games feel weaker and less competent than DT rejects.

>>714855684 (OP)
>Game still piss easy even on Auric
>Left4Dead campaign modes was harder than Darktide
Why the fuck is Darktide so easy to succeed? Why couldn't they just copy paste the 5 missions in a campaign run and where you can redo the mission if you fail?
The game is piss easy and they still lock out difficulty unlike Left4Dead.

>>714865210
Actually the furry marine in Rogue Trader ate a dude's brain, I'm surprised they actually used that ability in a modern game

>>714881609
yeah ogryns got tard strength and are latent psykers

>>714881609
DT rejects could easily take down a space marine

>>714881631
>still
They nerfed aurics to get people play Havocs and prevent shitters from getting upset that they can't beat aurics. Also, no, aside from shitty meme modes like dying from couple basic punches, L4D is not a more demanding game against computer.

>>714882196
NO HE COULD NOT
NOT MY SPECIAL BASED PLASTICMAN

>>714881609
>less competent
Some of them are, like Black Templars, which are about as retarded as the average Zealot.

>>714882505
WILL ROCK YOU!

>>714881631
show your havoc 40 clear real quick

STILL NO FUCKING ENDGAME RED GEAR

>>714882471
>>714884256
How often do you get a total party wipe?

>>714855684 (OP)
i have the free version of vermintide 2 but i never got around to it, is the game fun with bots or is it not worth trying? im assuming the online is dead

>>714885020
In Maelstroms? About half the time when the AI director isn't shitting itself and I'm not abusing my carry builds.

>>714885638
Not in Malestroms

>>714885531
It's not dead but getting matches might take a while on lower tiers. VT2's grinding just is a lot longer process than Darktide's, so you might be running around with bots before getting to the actual meat of the game.

>>714885531
Homo-kun it's far from dead, early difficulties might be but the ones which matter (legend for free then cata dlc) are lively

Should I grief and take a smoke grenade build as vet?

>>714885686
There are still AI bugs, especially in the tree mission that can cause the spawning of like unlimited ragers

>>714863669
It's extremely overtuned, expect fatshart to nerf it into the ground within a couple of weeks.

Stop giving money to Fatshark, retards.

>>714855684 (OP)
Was leveling up my arbites the other day and the game felt miserable. Aything less than havok 20 is painfully slow.

>>714885531
Only the lower difficulties are kinda barren because it's an old game and most have grinded to Legend and above already. But you can still fill a party in 5 minutes at worst.

>>714887702
Telling us that won't stop the paypigs who buy every cosmetic in the shop due to fomo

>>714879101
What are you even talking about?

>>714887695
would they tho? Ogryns are still more powerful than arbites and yet FS has done nothing to them since their rework.

>>714887702
but they make the most fun games. why would i stop giving them money?

>>714887816
He's talking to the schizos in his head

>>714885531
the increased the XP rate on higher diffs, if I remember someone with a high level could simply make you join a legend mission (you probably gonna die a lot) but at least you quickly gonna xp.

Fartshart viewed this image as a "how to develop games" manual

>>714873998
The bleed as applied twice, so it's not 8 stacks, it's 16 (which is the cap).
Also you're right, the bleed dot scales with dog damage buffs.

It's kinda broken right now, but we've had worse.

>>714887893
>but they make the most fun games.
Not even remotely close, they're garbage games that only become worse with every single update.

>>714888202
please tell us which game you find fun then

>>714888202
If they're such garbage then why are they so fun? Check mate.

>>714888242
No I don't think I will, I'm here to shit on you.

>>714863952
>2022
Almost got me

>>714861947
You could justify an entire chaos wastes like mode in a hive city, because not only are they incredibly varied, said variety can come out of nowhere due to how they’re structured.

>>714888295
just as I thought you're too scared, works everytime with your kind

Chainsword on arbites is actually bretty good. Especially if you go right side, there's so much stagger and impact shit you don't need a maul to stagger the enemies. I actually prefer it here over the zealot.

Not for havoc, but auric definitely.

>>714863669
Its absolutely not worth the asking price but the class is stupid strong pretty much no matter how you play it

>>714863724
What compels you to use that copyright name instead of the real name Eldar? I genuinely want to know.

>>714888730
you can run just about any weapon on him and do just fine
outside of vigilant autoguns I can’t think of too many pure stinkers in his kit

>>714866098
>Considering how fucking garbage the named "story" characters in Darktide are, maybe the personality void character creator was a blessing in disguise.
Yeah 100%. Remember that the characters in OPs pic are the "canon" team. You would've been forced to play an asian female zealot, black psyker, or hispanic female veteran (you can see her helmet off in some shots)
The literal only white male character would've been the ogryn

>>714863669
It's fantastic. It's similar in power level to the Ogryn.
All abilities are viable. Only 1 bad key stone. Lots of great weapons. Whoever said only the shotgun is a good ranged option is a retard. Both with and without dog it's great. And for only 12 bucks i don't feel bad shilling it. You can get the full game + DLC right now for under 30 bucks. And during a time when most games are thinking of going for 70 bucks or more. It's a cheap DLC for a cheap game. Strongly recommend.

>>714855684 (OP)
>terraria is 14 years old
>minecraft even older

>>714889174
Don't really care for the race thing, just that every named character in Darktide is agonizingly bad.
Which is incredible considering how they managed the exact opposite in Vermintide, even with NPCs

I dont even play the mission hub anymore, just Mortis Trials going for busted meme builds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoAx6468Yfk

>>714888202
Nah, DT improved in every way since release. VT2 did as well.

>>714889174
Imagine being this fragile every day of your life

>>714888730
The crusher maul is amazing on him because of his Concussive skill. Lets you abuse the Skullcrusher blessing pretty easily.

>>714889235
>Whoever said only the shotgun is a good ranged option is a retard
What are you talking about? The new shotgun has infinite cleave and can still hit a sniper on the other side of the map.

>>714889796
I've only tried the infinite bolter ammo build in mortis. Any other fun stuff you can do there?

>>714890070
>can still hit a sniper on the other side of the map.
yes it's good. But I can do that with a Ripper gun mkV.
The other weapons are ALSO good. For their own reasons.

>>714889346
>>714889928
Yeah it's pure coincidence that sgt morrow and enginseer kx9 (the only actual male characters that aren't somehow ethnic or obviously gay) are the only well written characters
You know denying your own pattern recognition skills is NOT virtue

>>714890130
for gamebreaking goofy shit
-Ogryn carpet bomber
-Psyker chained brain popper
-Psyker super electric fence
-the one you mentioned, Vet stance turret
Zealot doesnt really get any wild Indulgences
havent done Arbites yet

>>714890539
what's the electric fence? Is it a Smite thing or a that F barrier thing?

>>714890427
>enginseer kx9
how do you know he's white? I guess Sire Melk, Rannick, The Arby's Marshal, Wolfer and Swagger don't count. Go be a perpetual victim somewhere else.

>>714890661
i feel the whiteness.
My white-senses are tingling.

>>714890747
mine certainly says >>714890661 isn't white

>>714890661
Rannick is a fag, the rest are decent characters too
but yeah people just complain about hallowette, dukane, masozi because they happen to be badly written. Stop noticing things

>>714890747
>>714890828
I forgot to mention the Doctor guy who's having mind sex with Sefoni

I wish you could use the shotgun revolver for arbitrator without the shield.

>>714890874
>hallowette
Why are you talking to the pay pig store?
>dukane
Has like 15 lines in total
>masozi
No one notices or cares, Especially when Zola's VA is behind over half of them

>>714891043
>Why are you talking to the pay pig store?
Play the game

>Has like 15 lines in total
And? all dogshit writing

>No one notices or cares,
Play the game

>>714890234
Bolt pistol is king

>>714890874
Honestly I don’t mind Hallowette. The fact that Melk successfully fucks with her and makes her seethe is endearing, and sets her apart from the characters they clearly want you to fawn over.

>>714890660
yes the barrier ability.
you can get an Indulgence to get 2 extra charges for it, and you can get a different one that electrocutes and stuns everything non-monstrosity that touches it

>>714855684 (OP)
It's in a much better place now. It used to be a legit dumpsterfire that could barely be called beta, now it's a solid but mildly repetitive game. I still think it needs more gameplay variety. Add another monstrosity, another specialist, another elite, few more maps, one new weapon family per class, and I'll concede that the game is finished.

>>714861565
You litirally just turn on private game and load a match. You wont see them in the loading of a match, but as soon as you get in game, you have a team of bots.

>>714891863
>electro flail for arbite
>lightning claws for vet
>two handed chain axe for zealot
Dunno about Ogryn….
Heavy stubber and hotshot las for vet should be in too.

>>714890880
>Doctor guy who's having mind sex with Sefoni
what?

>>714855684 (OP)
the Swedish government probably mandates they get like 30 weeks of paid vacation per year or something

>>714894519
bleak, what a communist hellhole

>>714864081
that's a good thing THOUGH
all the other classes should be buffed to this level

>>714894357
she calls him handsome, is very close to him and she broadcasts her sex sounds at the end of mortis trial games. People just put 1 and 1 together.

>>714855684 (OP)
Just reinstalled the game and since you guys said auric was piss easy, I just queued into auric quick play. It was a hi-intensity shock trooper gauntlet and shit was intense. It was like havoc but without bullshit gimmicks. I'm going play more of this.

>>714896535
Fatshark catering to the "le hardcore" audience with Havoc nearly killed the game.

>>714896854
I don't know why they insist on always trying to kill the game with gated off modes. Every fucking Tide game has one.
Havoc's not as bad as weaves, and you at least don't have to pay for it like last stand, but it's still an annoying time sink to get to the good part that most can't be bothered with.

>>714897046
Havoc is worse than weaves because they balance around it imo. Now my Aurics are boring

>>714896854
I want to like havoc but it is just too steep of a learning curve. I need to spend hours on end training to learn how to tackle modifiers. For example: I know the breakpoints for damnation so I can predict whether I can kill a special or I have to take cover but recently I had one havoc match with both the green and orange enemies which means they have high health and can heal. It made the enemies into annoying bullet sponges. Don't even get me started on the gas modifier.

>>714897046
Am glad cata is gatekept by a dlc

I like most characters in Darktide but I find Masozi annoying and her stupid accent sounds incredibly out of place. Didn't some director at GW tell Mandalore that everyone in the 40K universe had to sound British? So why does this broad sound fresh off the banana boat? It's distracting and feels forced. And the worst part is even if she did sound like the rest, all of her dialog would STILL suck. I wish there was a mod to make her never speak during missions

>>714896535
Auric maelstrom with randoms is good enough for me.
The director is mean enough to throw a curveball now and then but you aren’t forced into meta setups and strats.

>>714898265
He said no Yanks allowed, but he was probably taking the piss.
They've always had space russians, swedes, germans, aussies, arabs etc, so everyone being british isn't a thing.

As for Masozi, yeah she's really distracting. Pretty much every character has a massive problem with trying too hard to make the player think they're great, but unlike the others she's just a pilot and that's it. Sure she's a combat pilot, but it's still the cushiest job in the business.

>>714855684 (OP)
>cash shop is great and will fund all the game's content, you'll see
>3 years of waiting for updates promised at release
>teehee buy our new class

>>714872971
If you're a halfway decent shot Vet is the most consistently reliable class with pretty much any talent setup (excluding Arbites from the conversation because it's grossly overpowered.

>>714898265
Masozi and Hallowette are both some sort of token funny smug woman, so it's not a surprise both their characters are insufferable. And obviously they're friends with each other.

>>714855684 (OP)
I feel grossly underpowered compared to my teammates. I'm a zealot with maxed out gear and a pretty good build who is always at least contributing and never going down but I'm seeing guys one shot carapace armored ogryn and obliterating ragers while I need to chain crits to kill them. Arbites is fucking obscene

>haven't played darktide since launch
>reinstall
>go with auto settings
>high with rtx on medium
>feels sluggish there's no way these were the settings I was using
>this new "masteries" menu runs at FUCKING 12FPS
>disable rtx
>same menu now runs at over 140fps
cursed

>>714900212
What the fuck are you smoking? Zealot is a nearly unkillable broken powerhouse, you must be using a shit build or you just don't know how to play. Arbites doesn't even come close to Zealot damage output.

>>714899782
Funny because Ogryn is just as powerful if not more powerful than Arbites yet people gloss over it. It's literally impossible to lose toughness with taunt ogryn if you know what you're doing.

>>714900457
>high with rtx
>disable rtx
Hello zoomer, welcome to our gaming forum

>>714900520
common knowledge to anyone who actually plays
post-buff ogryn is leaps ahead of everyone else

>>714900212
I know you play book zealot. It shows.

>>714900576
idgi

>>714898265
Fortunately her VA seems to have gone MIA and newer missions like the train or snow one replace her with some generic guy.

>>714900659
and yet people seem to ask nerfs for arbites more than ogryn. I wonder why.

>Usually hang out at Heresy difficulty because my friends are functionally retarded
>Last night, no one online, fuck it lets give Damnation a go
>3 Arbites and me as Vet
>Safest I have ever felt, dogs pouncing anything that gets close as I snipe off specials and suppress gunners with my bolt pistol
>Run possibly goes smoother than a lot of the ones I do with friends on Heresy
So this is what its like playing with competent people.
What is meta on Vet anyway? I usually run an almost entirely middle tree, with revive Shout and generating Krak grenades for bosses and groups of Ogryns. Upgraded tagging for free toughness regen on allies and shit.

>>714900486
When I was running the revolver I could two shot those guys with crits, I did a match with Arbites who were one shotting them consistently. I don't know how the fuck that's manageable.

>>714900710
I like the book but it's worthless with a good team so I almost never run it

>>714900818
Recency bias and overexposure, every game you play has at least 2 arbites in it right now. Ogryn were always kind of underplayed and that still remains mostly true.

>>714872971
Psyker still hasn't gotten a single new staff since release which is extra shit considering all of their actually good builds demand you use them

>>714900818
Personally I find Ogryn really awkward to play. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but it feels real stiff compared to everyone else. That might be intentional obviously, but still I like playing him less than every other class.

>>714901148
I like gunpsyker with heavy laspistol.
All of the staves bore me to tears, especially the flamethrower one even though its the meta.

>>714901058
Arbites have powerful ranged but less powerful melee. Zealot have much higher dps with access to flamers, relic blades, etc. You're just jelly that they make feel weak now even though its not exactly the case.

>>714900989
If you want good pubs, they're all in Auric (mind you there are still bad pubs there too). It's the only difficulty worth spamming.
>Whats meta on Vet
Shout. Do not take the revive talent, the reason the ability is good is because you can spam gold health the whole mission and imcreasing the cooldown fucks with that. as for guns, in my experience, the Bolter, Boltpistol and Plasma Gun(you spam the uncharged shot with this btw) are all head and shoulders better than the rest.

>>714901557
>make feel
make (you)* feel

>>714901602
>mind you there are still bad pubs there
Tell me about it. There are people in havoc who still don't stick as a team and rush like malice and get mad about others when they get downed.

>>714901602
recon las ain’t bad on him
I wish helbore was better

>>714901440
Okay.
I am just stating that they are clearly built to utilize the staves more than any other ranged weapon type and the devs have given them no new ones. I am pretty sure Sienna had gotten at least 2-3 by this point in VT2's lifetime.

>>714901071
>Ogryn were always kind of underplayed and that still remains mostly true
I've been seeing lesser psykers than ogryns in havoc these days. Maybe it's just me.

if I buy it will someone like me enjoy it?

>>714902565
why play psyker when I can play literally anything else and get similar damage output with triple the survivability
t. 500 true level psyker main

>>714863669
>Retards getting swindled into buying an overpowered class for hard cash that gets nerfed into the ground two months later.

>>714903176
I’m thinking you will enjoy it for a short period but ultimately come to the conclusion VT2 is the better game and just go back to that.
The sameyness of the maps and the destitute weapon and build variety between classes sets in after awhile. Give it a go but don’t expect your next forever game.

>>714903176
darktide sucks massive dick, I quit playing it after a year and all the new updates since then just made the game worse. Meanwhile Ive been playing vermintide for almost 6 years and still come back to it. 40kiddies will disagree because they are retarded.

>>714903765
No real roguelite mode doesn’t help.
Mortis trials were a total nothing burger, where is our chaos wastes???

>>714855684 (OP)
>Still worse than Vermintide 2

>>714887695
Fartshart is going on their 2 month long state mandated summer vacation thoughbeit

>>714903765
>40kiddies will disagree
no, VT2 is ahead by leaps and bounds and fatshark sucks fat hogs.

>>714903963
>>714904123
reinstalling, fuck darktide

>>714904443
honestly I still play DT just because I friends that do as well. I would much rather be playing VT1 or 2 instead.

>>714903517
>>714903765
yeah well I keep an eye on it but with this whole "IT'S FIXED NOW" screaming with every update I get less excited to actually try it now. Also is there any high difficulty modes like twitch 300%?

>>714904610
I hate that the /vg/ thread has been destroyed by retards when darktide came out, it went from comfy posting to constant elitist shit flinging, hate 40kiddies so much

just opened up the /vg/ thread, darktide ruined it lmao

>$40
>$15 for a single class three years post-release
>Plus a shitload of cash shop garbage
>Still as grindy as a fucking phone game
This shit should have been free

>>714904893
why don’t they just rebrand to darktide general? post about any other co-op game in there and you just get ignored.

>>714904690
if I had to guess I would say that was more fatshark dickriders than anything else, but I also stopped browsing /vg/ a few years after they made the board.

>good
>>714857759
as for me? i won't be checking out an offbrand dredd, no thanks
>>714864042
>trusting fatshart's words
>even before the tencent buyout

>>714870620
Wouldn't that just be a zealot with extra steps ?

What does OP even mean by that?
I played it for hundreds of hours on launch, did all of the cheevos and stuff and had a lot of fun.

>>714905372
Only popular enough games like Helldivers 2 and Space Marine 2 get to split, somebody has to house all the games that would otherwise get weeklong threads on /vm/.

i love everything around vermintide but i cant play it - hit/block/deflect/everything melee detection is serverside, so playing with friends in another region is impossible
darktide is far more clientside and actually lets me play the game, even if i pretty much dislike everything else about it - characters, builds, theme, etc
sad

>>714901557
That may be correct. I did solo a demonhost which made me feel special but I also pulled a demonhost which made me feel retarded so it was a wash.

>>714907043
they're both the exact same amount of serverside

>>714908203
bullshit, i literally just played vermintide to check and i absolutely am unable to block rats from hitting me unless im already walking up to them pre-blocking, while darktide has an insanely longer timeframe at 150ms

>>714907043
>Tripnigger is an actual clueless retard
What a surprise

I play ogryn, feel like Im doing good but always end up losing in higher difficulties
Is gungryn just not viable or am I shit at the game?

>>714909075
you want to take taunt for the free I Win button

>>714909075
What are your curios?

>>714908916
I mean that's down to other things probably. Not saying you don't experience that but in Darktide even swapping your weapon is serverside. Even aiming down sights is serverside. Even movement

>>714909227
Is barrage no good?
>>714909405
I didn't long get level 30 so just whatever gave me the most health

>>714905503
Pretty much, just roll female zealot, pick the extra crazy voice, equip an eviscerated, boom, repenting. Hell, story wise that's pretty much what a female zealot is, minus the belief in their own guilt.

>>714871135
male repentia outfit would be funny thoughever

>>714856289
I've played the first 8 missions and I've fought the same boss twice, done the same crescendo events multiple times and I can't tell most of the levels apart.

>>714910517
The hive underbelly missions are the worst and it feels like that’s all that ever gets into the rotation.
The desert and snow maps are at least a change of scenery but I never get to fuckin do them.

>>714903765
>and all the new updates since then just made the game worse.
how the fuck? most of the updates have literally been about adding previously missing functionalities or introducing optional content. how can any of that ruin the game?

I hate Fatshark beyond belief

what is it about this game that makes people so egotistical? Why are coms ALWAYS silent almost like there's some kinda unspoken rule to never speak? Why do I still love it so much even though I hate it so much?

>>714912068
>Why are coms ALWAYS silent almost like there's some kinda unspoken rule to never speak?
90% of the relevant information is transmitted through the game's audio engine. It basically works like a sonar and an intel device that tells you everything in advance. Voice chat interrupts this and really isn't necessary, as long as all 4 players know how to play at a basic level there's nothing that needs saying.

>>714904443
>22/26
let me guess, you didn't level the elf and the wizard?

>>714912068
typing gets you hurt because fatshark can't do pacing
talking covers up special sounds

this isn't a shotcalling kind of game anyway. Mostly when people try to shotcall I ignore it because it's not what I wanna do

>>714909795
>so just whatever gave me the most health
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GDr-eyhsSM
stack toughness as the main stat on all your curios
then put toughness as a perk on every single one
the other perks can go into stamina regen, block efficiency, and combat ability regen to your liking

>>714913096
>>714912437
it's less so shotcalling and more so when someone clutches a shitty situation or something funny or dumb happens it's dead silent.
just last night for example I clutched a 3 down through 30 ragers, two hordes of crushers and bulwarks, and a bllurgle on my ass and the only recognition is a "gj" in the elevator. It's fucking depressing.

>>714913520
what exactly did you hope for them to say

>>714913771
idk fucking something I guess.

>>714912068
>coms ALWAYS silent
i play video games to escape people you filthy normie. not everyone likes to chit chat and gossip all day

>>714913929
and they said "gj" no?
did you want them to holler on the mic like you're a streamer?

>>714913520
The people who kept playing Darktide for years have lost all emotion and most brain capacity outside of playing Darktide. It's like asking for praise from a machine

>>714913520
OOHOOOOOH ANON ANON YOU FUCKING DID IT
0POG POG AURAFARM AURAFARM FUCKINGP OGGERS DUDE YOU ARE SO GOOD I'D SUCK YOUR GIRLDICK
OH MY GOD DO YOU HAVE INSTAGRAM OR TIC TAC THAT WAS SO PEAAAK

there you happy now?

>>714904259
4 weeks*
Get it right foreigner.

>>714915584
But they need another 4 weeks of post-vacation vacation to recover from their 4 week vacation so it adds up.

>>714909075
If you want to win you should be playing Rumbler with taunt.

>>714866076
Bit late on that considering the cosmetics veterans have gotten. Besides, I will only accept a commissar class proper that plays like a team-killing BH but it somehow works.

did they change it so you can carry 2 guns at once now? I hate the dynamic they copied from ratclick where if you take a sniper type gun you are forced to rely on melee for hordes and if you take a gun that's good against hordes you're stuck with melee against bosses and shit.

>>714864326
Any space marine can get murked by an ordinary guardsman with a plasma rifle. A delta psyker is more than a match for any space marine. An ogryn is actually stronger than a space marine, just infinitely less intelligent. Our zealot actually has Sororitas-levels of faith that can manifest a miracle (Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude). An Arbites has an approximate amount of training as a Astartes and could easily take one down with prep time and the right weapons. A team of seasoned Inquisitorial Acolytes would be a good match for any lone Space Marine (wearing a helmet) in a fight.

>>714916875
The reject psyker is a pretty strong one too, s/he's got multiple disciplines under their belt and can avoid perils of the warp by just taking a breath every few power uses.

>>714901058
You can one shot a crusher with a heavy attack to the head using the dueling sword and the right build or just ordinary two backstabs. Zealot can just zip around like a twelve year old on speed one shotting everything with head and backstabs. This is faster than even an ogryn or an arbites can kill them.

>>714901058
>book is worthless
Gold toughness prevents all health damage not to mention the 10~ seconds of "nothing fights back" PLUS you get it every 25 seconds thanks to Blazing Piety
Taunt ogryn makes himself invincible, Book zealot makes EVERYONE invincible

>>714917703
Book?

>>714909075
Yes, gun ogryn is not viable on Maelstorm or 20+ Havoc without being a drag on the team. The vet needs the ammo for his gun or the zealot for the flamer. Ogryn should just be spamming light attacks to clear hordes and stagger elites with occasional rumbler grenades to stagger big groups. Vet makes range work with plasma gun or recon lasgun and stretch out the ammo but can also zip around with a dueling sword or knife to avoid getting cornered or hold their own against elites in melee. Gun ogryns can't do any of that and just eats shit, which you can't do on higher difficulties where ANY real damage is just instant death and riflemen can kill you in a single burst in less than a second.

>>714865591
A squad of ogryns would tear space marines to ribbons.

>buy it last year
>everything looks bland
>boring characters
>enemies are generic humans
>no notable elite enemies
has this been improved or what?

>>714917829
Depends on who is writing the story and how addicted they are to space marine wank.
If they really want to ham it up then the marine just uses his ultra giga mega super human reflexes to slice them all in half with one sweep of his chainsword before they can blink.

>>714855684 (OP)
>implying it's good now

>>714918138
oh totally dude
yeah
they added a fart grenade guy and

>>714918221
It always was good but flawed. Now it's excellent.

>>714857759
>>714862624
It's a distillate of the creator's perspective on the game, pure and unbound. In other words: soul

>>714917829
>A squad of ogryns would tear space marines to ribbons.
depends on the engagement
a focused ogryn in a very close range melee would stomp a space marine, even in tabletop ogryns STR mogs space marines
but add some distance and circumstances and range and it flips into the opposite

>>714918287
lol
lmao
Darkshart is a fitting name
Nomen est omen.

>>714918393
Depends who's writing. Also marines are supposedly smart enough to take whatever advantage they can find.

>>714918156
Same with eldar, space marines undergo decades of training and horrific surgeries to get to the physical level an eldar is born at, yet apparently a single company of them can clear an entire craft world no problem. But then they are the poster boys for the setting and account for 60 percent of mini sales, so can't ever show them losing too bad.

>Want different cosmetics
>Only cosmetics are Prisoner suits and the class attire but with more armor each level
>Commissary only sells recolors
This fucking sucks dick.

>>714918701
pay up goyim

>>714916835
lol

>>714918393
Should've specified, an ogryn squad in the usual darktide engagement range, aka close enough for even an ogryn not to miss or melee.

i picked up rogue trader during the sale and i cant stop fuckin playing it
i will obtain the fish waif

>>714918538
Commysar said so + emprah is watchin + they's gonna hurt the little uns
Marines are toast

>>714918994
Based fish wife appreciator. Her plus Kibbles equals THEY'RE GONNA BURY WHAT'S LEFT OF YOU IN A SOUP CAN!

>>714919041
*Unless the marines happen to be drab blue and bear toilet seat heraldry, then the ogryns get pulped in the most contrived ways possible

>>714919356
>"Extra rations for those who charge the large blue men!"

>>714918701
Do Havoc

>>714918701
You forgot the retarded requirements for most of those class cosmetics that turn the game into a second job if you want to obtain them in any reasonable amount of time. At least the priest ones look cool. I swear whoever is in charge of cosmetics must play zealot because they almost always get the best looking stuff. The current money shop ones are the first time in a while where the veteran has the best looking outfit.

>>714920142
The Arbite offerings are pretty weak but I guess there isn’t much material to go off of. The starlord getup doesn’t really do it for me either.

>>714920348
>Starlord

They're based off warhammer fantasy imperial witchhunters. The veteran head piece is even called witchhunter's hat.

>>714903765
Combat and difficulty is a lot better in Darktide. Like objectively. Way faster and higher apm.

In Vermintide you need to become a modbeast and convince your friends to do the same so you can play C3DWONS if you want an actual challenge. Or you gotta do True Solo Cata CW. Base game Cataclysm is boring as shit. Darktide just sort of comes with Havoc 40 which is on the same level as C3DWONS without the need for mods.

>>714918817
so no? what was the point of making a game about the 2nd weakest melee faction in the game universe and then forcing players to use melee weapons? why not make it a space marine game?

>>714921054
That’s obvious with the ones for the other classes but if that’s what the arbite cash shop outfit is going for too it went over my head I guess.

>>714921462
I think they were going for plain clothes detective. The only other option is undercover cop, which if that's what it was they failed miserably. Hmmmm, who's the rat, could it be the guy wearing the coat of the arbites symbol on the back and the clearly visible carapace armor underneath it? Nah, couldn't be him.

>>714898265
>Didn't some director at GW tell Mandalore that everyone in the 40K universe had to sound British?
Have you not played a single Dawn of War game? You know, where every single space marine is American except the librarian who betrays you.

>>714855684 (OP)
why are so many 40k games complete dogshit?
the setting as a medium has incredible potential but its squandered every fucking time

>>714922420
Because GW is greedy and frequently whores out the ip to literal who devs to make tons of shovelware and mobileslop.

>>714922420
The IP exists to sell minis, everything else is secondary to that.

How is the Hellbore Lasgun now after the buffs?

>>714908997
that's not a tripcode, anon.

>>714925405
Still has 2 seconds animaion before you can start shooting, that should tell you enough

arbites exterminator shotgun fucking slaps. Its not just me right?

Best arbites voice?

>>714922420
Shovelware devs want to coast by on the 40k name which Geedubz just hands out to anyone, or devs which are just incompetent despite being somewhat passionate, like Streum On

>>714927546
Do Arbites not have a lot of dialogue? I run male psyker with the calm, deep voice and I swear I have heard the same 2 conversations over and over with Arbites players.

>>714929381
because everybody runs batman I AM THE LAW voice, the riduclously gravely one.

>>714927304
so does the boltgun

>>714929539
I picked the normal sounding one, fatalist I think. The batman voice seemed like it would get grating after awhile like judge zealot.

So once you get past Auric's what even is there to work towards? I've gilded all the weapons, got all the cosmetics, and have no need for any crafting resources.

Should I do Havoc, or is there no end game loop?

>>714930230
Havoc is the endgame, yes.

>>714855684 (OP)
>Why is FatShark so incompetent?
It's snowing in Sweden

>>714930262
But what is there to gain from Havoc? Better weapons, or is it just penance rewards?

>>714930443
Sweden just passed a new anti porn law. I don't know if it's relevant but I will blame any current delays on that.

>>714855684 (OP)
>still no rats

>>714930485
Literally just cosmetics.

>>714872971
lol. the zealot's whole gimmick is having high melee damage but now the arbites stole that and made the zealot useless. both Veteran and Zealot feel like shit at the moment.

>>714855684 (OP)
I like the music.

>>714931141
No rats in 40gay. If there were any, the emperor or old ones stomped them out.

>>714870075
And in the tabletop the rejects would all die so it is irrelevant

NEXUS
FABELLOR
IMPLOREM
QUADRIGAE
IGNIFER
MACTO
PRIDEM
SATURAE

>>714936997
I genuinely don't want to see rats in 40k. I don't want to see Dwarves either, for that matter, but Deep Rock Galactic came out so GW remembered they needed to posture for their IP's rights to Space Dwarves™

>>714937634
They have dwarves in space now. They are called the leagues of votann

I honestly just enjoy DT's gameplay over VT2, even though I do wish DT had a lot of things VT2 had. I wish I played it more, but I always play alone and randos are boring to play with.

>>714938363
I know, that's what I was alluding to. GW pretty much just unsquatted the Squats because of Deep Rock Galactic. I hate their Space Dwarves, I hated them when they were Squats, and I am going to continue to hate them for as long as GW sucks at writing, so basically forever.

>>714935920
>disposal unit
>light of the imperium

>>714921194
Is it really? I've been doing H30s & 40 all day, but I guarantee I'd get shredded if I went back to unmodded VT2 right now. VT2 melee is much more mechanically intensive whereas Darktide gives the player a lot more crutches. Even the dodge in DT is better

>>714938693
>Nightsider
>Wave glider
>Transit horde
>Imperial advance
Light of the imperium is by far the most kino.

>>714938672
Based post. The problem with Leagues of Votann is they were DOA, and not just because of DRG existing. GW can't write nuance anymore-they turned what could have been an interesting faction into this bizarre "everyone misunderstood us, but we're basically superior humans with AI waifus and clone rights!" cringe-fest. At least old Squats had some charm in their dorkiness. New Votann are just sterile lore placeholders with a gacha army release.

>>714855684 (OP)
I had to wait through the god awful delay for console to get a game that was still incredibly bare bones for content and as far as I know never any explanation or reason why it took years to be released

>>714938871
not that anon, but imo darktide's melee needs to be pretty lenient because there's fuckers with laser pointers dinking the shit out of you 15 feet away and if you get hung up on a crusher or a bulwark you're gonna get shredded.
TLDR Darktide needs faster/simpler melee because of the existence of ranged fodder

>>714939160
it
was
snowing
in
sweden
chud

>>714929539
>Batman I AM THE LAW voice

Judge Dredd is and always has been the inspiration for the Arbites, not I am scared shitless of guns Man

>>714855684 (OP)
>Good
PFTHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

I buyed boughted the inquisitor cosmetic because it looked so good. I feel like a fool.

Whats some good melee options for Veteran?

>>714939738
Dueling sword is king on any class that can equip it.
If you don't want to be a metawhore power sword, chain sword, the axes, and the shovels are fine. Knives too if you want to be speedy and untouchable in melee.

>Waiting for the next game
>"Greentide"
>this time you play as an ork during a fucking WAAAAGH
>can play a fucking kommando
>can play a mekboy
>can play a nobz
>can even play gretchin riding a squid or drive a smoll tank
>can play whatever ork dumbthing
>so much possibility, so much potential
>imagine the ennemi, IMAGINE THE FUN
>fight the IG, pointy ears, nids or the blueberry ... even other orks
>hardest difficulty they send a Deathwatch Killteam randomly, the members are have specialty like the ravenguard dude is a sneaky fuck with Ligthning claw or the Salamander have a fucking flamer and a big ass hammer or the SW bark like a bitch
>I want to be a zogging ork and do some krumpin' with ma choppa and ma shoota
>I want to use red paint on armor and actually go faster in game, or make weapon pewpew real fast
>purple shit is just no texture
>need to catch squigs for hair customisation
>Praise Gork and Mork for Obese Fish to listen

>>714939738
dueling sword is #1 Riposte and Uncanny with carapace/unyielding perks to one shot crushers consistently unless your build sucks
Knife and Tac Axes are like a more balanced but still super powerful dueling sword. You're faster too
AVOID chain weapons, their special sucks and their base stats are also just worse versions of other weapons.

>>714940249
It's too kino, it'd never work...

>>714940249
Heckin yes. Waagghh.

The Arbites shield revolver combo looks cool but I don't feel prepared to play another live service game

>>714940758
the rate this game gets updates is so glacial I feel like calling it live service is a misnomer

I played this game recently again and now it feels like a 1.0.
But the story is still a non sense mess.
They wanted to make this game a fucking live service? Fatshark is a fucking incompetent kike Jesus Christ. Who is gonna buy the overpriced skins besides a few retards that decide to visit this game every 3 years where they drop major content? They should be pumping this shit every six months at least, they can't even kike right. Fucking retards.

>>714940249
Best you will get is a buggy mess with 5 classes, but now with AI voicelines so they dont have the excuse that it will take ages to record new content. But still you will have to wait 2 years for the game to be barely playable.

>>714940758
We will probably see new content next year now. Play it while there is still people interested. Forget it and only return when they decide to finally release something.

>>714939176
>but imo darktide's melee needs to be pretty lenient because there's fuckers with laser pointers dinking the shit out of you 15 feet away and if you get hung up on a crusher or a bulwark you're gonna get shredded.
That's a very good point

>>714863669
obscenely strong which is quintupled because everyones playing it I genuinely have no fear of dying like when I play the other classes and I can handle any situation
however I am having fun with the power fantasy of being part of an arbites squad as we do an underhive raid for lulz

>>714863669
I'll give you one guess as to which two are playing the new class.
10/10, it's okay.
Dog bleed bug notwithstanding, it's a very strong class. They obviously balanced with high level Havocs in mind but ended up making it far too strong for Aurics. My friend who struggles with Malice can play through Aurics without going down on Arbites, that's how ridiculous it is. As things stand, they need to either give us something above Aurics, tone down Havocs to make more shit viable in pubs, or bring other classes up to par with Ogryn and Arbites. I'd like to either see both the first and third of those options happen OR the second alone.

>>714918994
>>714919136
Mah niggas. I need to do a new playthrough and not abuse officer bullshit this time

>>714940249
Too based for this gay world sadly

>>714940249
>even other orks
Knowing fat shark that's literally the only thing you would fight.

I don't know how useful melee psyker is but man it's fun hitting scrier's gaze and just going apeshit on a horde

>>714943141
It's good in Aurics. I've never played it in Havocs though. I don't really like Psyker that much

>>714855684 (OP)
Why are veteran mains so petty? When the prospect of adding heavy stubbers to arbites is discussed they barge and beg for scraps. They also beg for a second rework. These people are so entitled.

>>714945042
Cadia's finest deserve our equal attention cake.

>>714855684 (OP)
I have ~600 hours. Have yet to open the cash shop. Best horde shooter after L4D2 there is. Ye, it crashes, ye it DCs. Show me a MP game that doesn't.

Vermintide has more polish, content, and is objectively the better game, but I can't go back to it since Darktide came out. Darktide's combat just feels way better and actually kinda addicting - at least to me.

>>714940903
It still gets updates :^)

>>714916727
I wasn't talking about commissars at all though, just inquisitors. A commissar can be made to serve under an inquisitor and it happens all the time, just look at Cain. But I cannot recall any instance of an inquisitor being made to serve under the underling of a fellow inquisitor.

Twitch Cata anyone? I need a few missions for a frame

>>714950887
Execute a downed ally for bonuses to all members of the team for rest of the mission.

Fuck whoever designed Ogryn penances. Every single one of them is a ridiculous grind.
>Get 7500 kills with heavy attacks at max stacks of whatever
>get 4500 free shots with burst limiter override. Get maybe 300 rounds progress if you do nothing but shoot the highest fire rate stubber the entire game and hog all the ammo.
>Bull rush 60 enemies despite hordes never getting that big
>Blow up 25 enemies 25 times with a single use frag grenade which fails half the time because hordes crumble when your team looks at them, often in between the time of throwing the frag and it going off.
>taunt 1000 fucking elite enemies

>>714857759
And?
What you never played Vermintide before?

>>714951364
the bull rush used to be a private penance and I can see why, you need a friend to set it up

>>714951508
does this look like 12dollars you bootlicker? Now go buy more aquilas for some chinkslop

>>714855684 (OP)
Which is more difficult ? Cata or Havoc?

>>714952308
I'd say high havoc for the sheer amount of shit the director throws at you, nothing is more cancer than twins alongside two fart bombers

>>714865591
>bunch of no name guys eliminating a space marine in single combat is.
depends who you ask, from memory commissar with a chainsword kills a CSM in hand to hand in one of the books
the lore is all over the place, you can quote something saying marines are demigods but there's also lore that has them dying to baby tyranids or whatever.

the only thing that would make me touch this gachashit again is f2p and a sororitas/inquisitor class

>>714954123
oh no please we really need you

>>714953984
There's literally an example of a marine dying to a sharpened wooden stick to the neck. If that can happen imagine what a lucky bullet can do.
Space Marine glazing has gotten so fucking tiresome. It's capeshit tier.

>>714951364
Honestly, those aren't that bad. Vet's Markman's Stance penance is the worst one by far.
>Kill x thousand enemies while at max stacks of focus
>have to stand in place for 5 sec. to reach max stacks
>team is now half a mile away and killed everything in between you and them

>>714954840
you do realize melee kills count right? Just walk like a crab and slice

>>714951364
The bull rush 60 guys achievement is the only one I still don't have. Seems impossible to get without a coordinated effort where you're specifically asking teammates to not kill anyone so you can get it

>>714954840
I got it with the bolter in mortis trial mode.
Since everyone always camps a spot, you can just blast everything that moves and steal all the ammo. Most enemies go down in one shot, and unless another vet’s on the team nobody ever uses up all the ammo you get anyway.
I got it in 2 matches

>>714954840
The annoying thing about Ogryn is that they're all kind of doable they just take 10 years and when you're doing one you're locked in that talent and can't make any progress for the other penance

>>714855718
FPBP, don't care what they change until they add in real usable and configurable bots like they promised in 2022 and like vermintide had at release. i will not babysit someone's kids just because the devs decided to force me online to engage with their public lobby and cash shop. my wallet is closed to this game and i will not boost their playtime/engagement metrics.

>>714953984
If you read Rogue Trader, the original book not the RPG you'll notice that games were supposed to be narrative and even have a GM type deal to manage it.
40k is about the story of your dudes, and everything should be taken as the bullshit someone wrote to make some faction look good. Did so and so do such and such? Probably, the galaxy is big and there's a lot of people in it.
Point is, the lore SHOULD be all over the place and The Horus Heresy was a mistake

>>714856289
>Every time I check this game it’s someone walking down a generic heckin grim dark hallway
That's what you get when you have the genius idea of having every single map have 4 different exits and entrances so you can reuse half of every map you make but its ok because you're crossing that half of it going WEST this time instead of north!
You can't even use the excuse of the game being set exclusively in an underhive because Hired Gun did the same thing but its environments still managed to be visually varied enough.

>>714956748
this game was cursed from the outset. every part of it is ill-conceived. they already had a template with vermintide - a wide variety of races and unique/storied characters working together to fight a wide variety of enemies across a wide variety of environments. so they decided to make you play as 3 generic humans and an ogryn (large human) fighting one single type of enemy (nurgle AGAIN) in one single type of environment (dark industrial corridors). it's completely insane. even if i were a money grubbing goblinoid publisher/dev studio, i'd want eldar and tau and orks in there somehow just to sell more varied cosmetics than metal plating and combat fatigues.

and then after all of that you have their disgusting live service tactics like forced online lobbies, a FOMO cash shop, and no true single player experience.

>>714956403
>>714957107
you sure do love chinks gifs

>>714957237
sorry ill use one you can personally relate to more:

>>714909075
dont listen to these tards. Gun ogryn is absolutely playable in maelstrom but dont expect arbites free win. The issue with him is that only mk 7 twin stubber really works even after the rework. I really tried making ripper gun work but its unsalvageable dogshit

In an alternate reality Darktide wasn't made by retards and you got to play Space Kerillian with access to all Eldar factions' wargear.

>>714940249
honestly hope the next game is set in AoS

>>714957453
Ripper is for pox hound waves and can opener combos. That’s pretty much it I’ve found

>>714957453
>I really tried making ripper gun work but its unsalvageable dogshit
Why couldn't they just make at least one of the variants a fucking semi auto shotgun instead of all this jank ass burst shit with tiny mag size that barely does any damage?

>>714855684 (OP)
Its just a thing now where games release 2 years before they shouldve.

>>714855718
I still dont get why people want to play with bots. Im not oppose to it but its multiplayer game, are you socially anxious or something? Same with PvP
>be loud minority
>get what you want
>play it twice and never touch it again
>devs now have to waste time balancing this shit instead of doing literally anything else
Same energy. I dont want them to have to balance fucking bots for a multiplayer game. If anything, I would only want bots to be running around as NPCS ALONGSIDE 4 actualy players so we can have battles that feel like they have some scale.

>>714861565
>Then queued for 5 mins with no games and quit to play palworld instead

This is a lie, and anyone who actually plays the game knows it. If you sit in queue for a minute or so without finding a game, it will put you into an empty lobby, and if you start the game from there it will put you in game with 3 bots.

Why are you telling blatant lies, anon? If you hate the game that much, just play something else. Why are you spending time posting about it on 4chan?

>still no sniper character
not even worth reinstalling

>>714957975
sorry, best i can do after baiting with ratling dialogue for three years is another completely average human. take it or leave it.

>>714957453
Ripper gun is fantastic, build it with melee in mind not just the shooting. The melee counts as heavy attacks for perks, and theres a trait for the weapon called "tin opener" which on one hit with it applies full stacks of brittleness when you hit in melee with it, basically removing armour from anything you hit, its fantastic for the team and making light work of bosses. It also pairs with "heavy attacks cause bleeding" as melee with this counts as heavy you can stack bleed and get benefits like "take 10% less damage per bleeding enemy in range". With the magic bullet trait there is a perk associated with it that lets you get up to 100% chance to trigger depending on recent melee kills, with the rippergun you will get melee kills and then trigger this, which also pairs well with crits as you can basically guarantee a crit with the shots you take if you get familiar with how to stack the effect.

Use the one that does automatic fire when braced and you will delete who hordes, and since its fallof range is practically non existent you can suppress or outright kill ranged enemies.

>>714939738
basic sapper shovel

>>714957975
I mean, there is, but it sucks.
>veteran
>take stealth ability and branch into "enemies ignore you for 10 seconds on leaving stealth"
>take perks to do with "farther you are the more damage you do", use stealth to get out of the way of enemies and make them ignore you
>take charge lasgun, revolver, single fire autogun, or even a plasma gun
Its doable but youre basically doing nothing to hordes.

>>714958251
>suppress or outright kill ranged enemies.
how? That shit has spread bigger than fatsharks prolapsed asshole. You need to dump half a mag just to kill one gunner

>>714957975
Sniper character is worthless in Darktide because the real meat of the game is in the higher difficulties, and the higher difficulties are too chaotic and melee for sniping to work. You can actually go try executioner's stance helbore vet in aurics and you'll soon realize you're spending 80% of time in the melee defending yourself so you might as well just focus on melee.

>>714958415
nah theres nothing that scratches that BH itch - where youre a glass cannon but can safeguard your based pub retard teams by just deleting every special and boss on spawn on cooldown with correct play

>>714957770
damn took you an entire day but you finally obliterated him

>>714958629
the ult cooldown refund got nerfed tho

>>714958597
BH is super gimped in melee, the entire gimmick is you rape elites and specials and bosses but are the squishiest + weakest melee. I'd maybe give DT a shot if veteran had a weapon that was more like crossbow on BH where its single shot and leaves you open for attacks but destroys elites in 1 shot

>>714855684 (OP)
The game still only has a single fucking tileset after 3 years. Fucking embarrassing. There is no level variety, everything feels the same.

>>714958749
havent played in years so idc, also thats chaos wastes where you got extra cdr n shit

>>714958597
there are lots of weapons that aren't viable at the highest difficulty. should they retroactively remove them from the game? also, there are a ton of ways to make sniping work: the game already has an aggro/attention system and temporary invisibility for the stealthy characters has been a thing since vermintide. the only excuse is an absence of creativity.

>>714958597
I use ES vet with bolter sometimes. It works well for ranged trash clearing mainly. A sniper could totally work if you could quickscope crushers.

>>714957975
plasma gun veteran is part of havoc 40 meta and basically plays like this

>>714958490
Theres almost no damage fall off on them for whatever reason, so even a few pellets managing to hit does near full damage unlike most weapons, just brace, and shoot centremass. Youre an ogryn, you can stand in direct fire for a bit to get a shot, there are perks like "bracing your weapon recharges toughness" which lets you just walk in the open and gun down shit even if youre getting shot. Learn when to brace with the rippergun and its great.

>>714958597
It does do work if you focus on just hunting priority targets and let your team handle everything else but that relies way too much on your team actually being able to do that. We both played this game, we both know that there is always one person who is just not sticking with the team for coherency bonuses and is trying to just run through even the highest difficulties on their own, and when they do that the hordes are getting split and you cant focus on just taking down priority enemies.

I just beat level40 havoc, I used to do it on a regular basis but after the update and the difficulty bump I was stuck at 35 for the longest time.

>>714959325
congrats

>>714959325
i can't get true survivor because my teammates keep going down. i think it need to join a discord or something sadly

>>714951364
you're 100% correct. I've completed ALL penances for ALL classes. Ogryn was absolutely the most grindy one, by far.
Zealot has the most annoying ones.
Vet is whatever, cheesable.
Psyker was the fastest one to complete.

>>714959398
I got it before the update. Condition was not going down and getting instagibbed by crushers didn't fail you. I died at least once and still got it. Shame they patched it later, dying also fails it.

i can't get back into darktide, even though i put 160 hours into it in the month of its release.
i havent touched it since. shame. vermintide 2 is just better, fantasy as a whole too.

>>714962302
40k is a setting i wish i could love in games but all of the games set in it are hyperfixated on boring ass humans with (rare and infrequent) xeno cameos. except dawn of war 1. that game was awesome. the fantasy games mix it up at least. it's just a different market, i guess.

>>714873074
>literally every "build" looks the same aka frags, ammo, shout, weapon spec
Since you instantly had a proper meltdown, I already know you're beyond brain-damaged, but roughly ~2/3rds of choices on a talent tree alone being abysmal dogshit isn't really a good look champ

>>714951508
get shit on lmao >>714951581

>>714963279
Get in line. Zealot's talent tree is much worse than Veteran's.

>>714959325
right now is probably THE best time to get to 40, having at least one arbites on your team that is anywhere near a competent player will genuinely make most havoc 40 maps easy unless you get really, really unlucky or make a huge misplay

>>714964063
can confirm i just did my first havoc 40 with 3 complete strangers all playing arbites and it was like playing aurics. nearly got true survivor too