Indie devs be like

Also Jevil from Deltarune

so sorry nintendo didn't get the chance to trademark all those concepts
next time they will surely do so

>>714959036
So... what...? What did you say...

>>714958423 (OP)
>>714958423 (OP)
>>714958423 (OP)
I've never played Undertale. Does it live up to the hype?

>>714959709
Yes it's really nice, definitely play it. Don't kill anyone and you'll get the true ending.

>>714959709
It's not. It's boring retro rpg. Nothing exciting. Nothing good looking. All the jokes come off cringe and awkward. It's only popular due to the sheer autism of its fanbase of mentally ill people.

>>714959036
nintendo dropping the bid for the lorax franchise was the dumbest thing they've done in recent memory

>>714959940
Also you're asking for trouble speaking about it in good terms here.

>>714959709
Yeah, it's great short experience. Not without its flaws, but it's a very genuine and sincere story.

>>714960076
I remember that post and I’ve never played Undertale

is this the thread

>>714960229
'fraid so

>>714958423 (OP)
>I'll make the OP as criticism of the game I really want to make a thread of
>this will surely fool those jannies this time!
KYS

>>714958423 (OP)
Anon now looking through autistic patterns: Level IMPOSSIBLE

Next you will tell me Toby stole from Omori, too

>>714960229
yep

>>714959709
After playing Deltarune it might be boring to have similar story but without Susie or any romance route at all. In the end you play as some 8 year old child and not a teen after puberty

>>714960326
Based He/Him Chadposter

>>714958423 (OP)
Where are the unity/unreal punching trees slop?

>>714959709
its endearing. the games be spoiled to hell and back so most of the shock factor is gone and its alot more simple than deltarune but i'd be lying if i said i didn't still like it

>>714960364
Kralsei is even more fucked than Ralsus. Not only a fucking imagination that can't cross into Lightner world. But he also look like Asriel and will make everyone cringe if they ever started dating in any route.

>>714960540
Ralsus isn't a real ship anon

>>714960498
Now that i think about it. How did Dess and Susie able to make a dark well without having human Soul? Can literally anyone make it by accident at any time?

>>714960580
Just like possibility of Susie ending up with Ralsei

>>714959709
No, it's one of those things vastly overhyped by a fanbase that it hyper specifically panders to, that fails to realize no one else finds these things so appealing

>>714960229
does anyone have more art (preferably with no gay porn) with this kind opf artstyle

>>714960637
Human/Monster dichotomy is not as important in Deltarune as it was in Undertale. Monsters bleed, don't seem to do any magic in light world and don't appear any weaker than humans. Soul is required to enter Dark World, therefore every Lightner must have it. Kris is the only exception we know of - he seems to have lost his original soul somehow and has to use a replacement. Dess is some weird corrupted thing so we can't assume anything.

>>714960137
>it's a very genuine and sincere story.
Ehh? It's a self aware meta criticism on JRPG design and the way people play games filled with post-ironic humor, rugpulls, memes, and creepypasta shit, not what I'd call genuine and sincere, in fact quite the opposite

>>714960975
>rugpulls
The biggest rugpull it had was the fact that it was actually a genuine and sincere story about empathy and not a "cute thing is actually a horror" type of game.

>>714961158
>it was actually a genuine and sincere story about empathy
Not really
>and not a "cute thing is actually a horror" type of game.
This is definitely what it was

>>714960580
IT'S REAL TO ME

>>714961348
>Peppa Pig is not real...

>>714961364
If this was canon, we would play as Noelle and Suselle would get an actual development. Susie isn't interested in bullying girls and Berdly is too snitchy and annoying

>>714961204
Ah, so that's what kind of discussion it's going to be. You're going to say whatever you want without backing up your points and then just go "nuh-uh, I'm right" every time someone tries to argue.

>>714960637
Channelling your will into the blade implies you can't make a fountain without intending to. And if Queen is correct then any lightner could do it, they don't have to have a human soul.

Alternatively Queen is mistaken and only someone with the determination generated by the SOUL can do it (would be an explanation why team roaring want us) and Susie was able to because being a part of the party gives her access to the determination we generate.

Alternatively alternatively Susie was able to do it because being all wilful and determined seems to be her main character thing.

>>714958423 (OP)
I'm STEALING and there's nothing you can do abour it! Hahaha ha! Lmfao

>>714961579
i mean presumably susie would also be a guy in this so discussions here would basically amount to "which monster should our femcel meatpuppet get dicked by?"

>>714961364
>that berdly
that description makes her oddly more cute

there's zero point in innovation when your garbage fanbase will eat it up either way.

>>714959709
Either way just be careful with the rabid fanbase

>>714958423 (OP)
KIMBA THE WHITE LION??

>>714961364

>>714962382
is this loss

Jesus Krist

>>714958423 (OP)
Toushin Toushi kino

>>714961451
She's real in our hearts, anon. The muddy puddles were just a metaphor for the tears we've shed.

>>714958423 (OP)
It would be based if Ralsei was more like Arthur.
Hope we see his annoying little sister in chapter 5.

what's next for them

>>714958423 (OP)
I have indieslop fatigue

>>714963631
Bringing the child to the world that will be the MC for a Mother 2 esque world quest game.

>>714958423 (OP)
>toby ripped off… himself

>>714958423 (OP)
>be like
i have ebonics fatigue

>>714958423 (OP)
This would be alright if you didn't shove pomni garbage into it

>>714958423 (OP)
Which translation/patch of OFF should I play?

>>714963489
You mean Lancer?

>>714963997
>the red dot at the end of Ch4 is actually suppose to be the rape baby inside noelle
LETS GO

>>714965250
I choose
>Mari
>Dess

>>714958423 (OP)
China is successful because they're allowed to copy others.

Remember when people thought we’d fight the “how to draw dragons” girl in Ch3?

>>714960326
>Already downvoted to hell on e6 last I checked at 3 in the morning
Lmao

>>714962906
It's frost

>>714967680
fross

>>714967784
lass

>>714966085
to be fair it would've been hilarious.
>solo fight against the dragon
>its literally just a pinup girl
>kris is sweating the whole time because he's dead if susie decides to walk into the room

Is this the Deltarune thread?

>Indie games be like
>Only post 5 games

There are like 10 indie games released a day. A lot of garbage, but also a lot of good stuff. That doesn't mean they're all the same. Like, in the old days they made the same game and did a lot of marketing to convince us that it was different. And I'm talking about gaming gen 1-7. Pre-indie days were smokeshow

>>714968210
Just don’t tell the Jannies

>>714968374
in case you havent noticed, this is a stealth deltarune thread so that the jannies dont orbital strike us.

>>714962382

>>714968514
Aye aye!

>>714968514
Chara's a nigger...

>>714958423 (OP)
Reminder that every retard who's creating huge expectations about Toby Fox's "fever dream," crazy 4th wall breaking, save hopping, multiple ending bullshit will be sorely disappointed.

>>714969019
Depends what you mean by that. It is bloody obvious that the game that Deltarune is now is massively different to what Toby originally dreamt.

>>714966085
Tobias is a fucking hack for not having her

>>714964008
They're making these arguments in bad faith, it's controlled opposition.

WHERES PAPYRUS

>>714958423 (OP)

>>714964008
Where

>>714969019
True. Just look at everyone who thought we would travel back to Chapter 1 to get the Shadow Mantle.

anyone think it's weird how everyone makes jokes and videos about asgore having run over dess
but lose their mind at toriel getting drunk and dancing?

>>714970002
How hard would that have really been to actually do?

>>714970170
For Toby? Almost impossible. Each Chapter is treated as a different game.

>>714970487
What's stopping toby from going back to an older game and making a change to it? It's basically making use of the shadow crystal system that's already in the game.

>>714970816
The Shadow Crystal stuff is just one item. Toby would need to actually write new code if he did the "time travel" theory anons love saying here.

>>714970873
Actually you can already get multiple shadow crystals through that method. It really isn't a stretch to then get multiple shadow crystals and a cloak.

>>714959709
It's not for you, you are not allowed to play it.
/v/ forbids you from playing it.

>>714971062
But people wanted stuff like a different ending to the King fight.

>>714959709
It's not good, but you should play it anyway

what's the end goal for krisp?
he gets dess back, and then what? life just goes back to how it was before she went missing?

>>714959709
Yes. I still think it’s better than Deltarune. You should try it.

>>714960498
>its endearing
it really isn't

Good morning, I love Susie

Something that I’ve seen absolutely no one comment on is that at the end of the backstage mini game, you mimick the knights movements exactly. First you kill Tenna, then move to the right, and then finally move down to the bunker immediately after
Kris and the Knight pose similiarly in many, many instances. At first I thought that this was because Kris admired Dess/Knight, the second mantle game suggests something else however. In it there is a black deer transformed into a shadow-monster that copies your exact movements. This must be viewed in conjunction with the events of mantle game 3.
In game 3 mini-kris copies the Knights future actions before they even happen
You kill Tenna
Continue going to the Right
And then you head down into the bunker
Then you head inside of the bunker against your will and meet Eram.
At the end of the chapter the bunker opens for Kris so this happens as well.
This all happens after the mantle game. But how did it know what would happen?
If Kris poses were simply copying Dess why does the Knight act exactly like he did, bit by bit? Maybe Kris's original soul is in Dess. It has been suspected by many that only those with souls remain as lightners in the dark world and can go back to the light world. A dark world could revive Dess, but it couldnt let her leave it. So Kris tried his best to save her. But it ended up twisting her, we don't know what happens to monsters who absorb human souls in deltarune, the facts are different.
If Kris's soul is in the Knight it would explain how he can either see or plan out what the Knight does before it happens.
Lastly I would just like to mention that dark worlds created by monsters seemingly are reversed with different colours and a different structure, as evidenced by the fountain Susie made. That would imply that the other fountains were made by those with human souls. So how does the Knight have a human soul? Well, you know now.
The Knight even has an eye where Kris has a soul.

>>714972301
I believe that the Knight is Kris's original SOUL processing Dess. The one we control was implanted and doesn't "fit him".

>>714972301
>It has been suspected by many that only those with souls remain as lightners in the dark world and can go back to the light world.
I didnt have the space to say this in the original post so let me elaborate
The phone call in act 4 makes it obvious that Kris absolutely needs to have his soul in the dark world even though he can seemingly move just find without it in the light world, even running around and being extremely agile while lasting for extended amounts of time. He even sleeps without the soul when he wants to. So why does he need it? Is it merely to seal the fountains? Possibly, that is one confirmed usecase.
But what if it is because soulless beings cant live there without issue. Something to chew on

>>714958423 (OP)
I'm not Sonic, I'm my original character, Sash Lilac.

NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
THAT SUSIE AND ME
DO IT IN HER ROOM EVERY SUNDAY
TELLS HER WE'RE DOING HOMEWORK
WHILE WE'RE IN A DARK WORLD
STILL SHE'S ON HER KNEES AND NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW

OH, NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
SO DON'T TELL NOELLE
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
SO DON'T TELL NOELLE

ON A PHONE CALL TELLS ME TO GO FASTER
NOELLE'S LISTENING MIGHT AS WELL BE GASTER

OH
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
SO DON'T TELL NOELLE

I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE'S SO TRUSTIN'
WHILE ON MY HEAD SHE RESTS HER CHIN
SHE WANTS TO WEAR THE DINO-SUIT
THIS IS KINKIER THAN THE WEIRD ROUTE
RALSEI MIGHT JOIN AND SHE KNOWS NOTHING, NOTHING

NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
SO DON'T TELL NOELLE
CAUSE NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
NOELLE DOESN'T KNOW
SO DON'T TELL NOELLE

>>714958423 (OP)
>Arthur
KEK

>>714972301
Very good post, anon. I agree that the Knight must have Kris's OG SOUL as well. It would explain her sheer power, and why she looks like a mixture between Lightner and Darkner. I wouldn't be surprised if Kris is promoted as the next Knight once we leave him.

>>714958423 (OP)
The knots people tie themselves into trying to imply Undertale/Deltarune is some kind of sin against game design and sincerity are always funny to see.

>>714960878
>it's one of those things vastly overhyped by a fanbase that it hyper specifically panders to
japanese people? *raughs*

>>714972301
>Lastly I would just like to mention that dark worlds created by monsters seemingly are reversed with different colours and a different structure
I think the point there is that making a dark world based on a dark world is a degenerative process. If someone who first saw Susie's Dark World tried to recreate that Dark World themselves, it would get even more distorted.
My main evidence is that the thematic portion of the Second Sanctuary seems heavily focused on how unique each state of mind is. You can't have the same dream twice, you can't return to a dream after it ends, thinking about an event again INHERENTLY alters your thoughts on it. If the point of it being different were to show that Monster Dark Worlds are different, I feel Toby wouldn't have made one of its major themes something that so obviously connected to Deltarune's conception, the idea of trying to recreate or return to a dream.
>In game 3 mini-kris copies the Knights future actions before they even happen
My personal theory is that the more removed you are from "reality", the more the Prophecy takes hold. The trip to the Isles of Northernlight happened entirely inside the Dark World version of a video game. The reason Minikris so easily fell into the same actions as the Knight is because the Prophecy, in essence, flowed particularly strongly there, and following it became the path of least resistance.

Very interesting posts ITT. The Knight carrying a human SOUL is very likely now that I think about it.

>>714972969
Kris is going to be influenced by Oersted in Live a Live. Mark my words.

>>714974963
Toby already said that was his influence in an interview.

The Hero

Toby likes Sans btw. /v/ lost.

>>714975779
Why are you obsessed with an eceleb

>>714975863
Where do you think you are?

>>714975779
>2015
He's grown.
Now he writes Sans as a rapist.

>>714975612
Just had a thought. What if the cool-headed sword wielding persona that Kris takes on isn't actually him but us? And when (if) Susie becomes our new host she'll end up becoming like that instead?

>>714975863
>eceleb
That's the creator of these games.

>>714976059
No that's clearly the creator's fox.

>>714958423 (OP)
looking at trash like e33 which dog shit parry combat and the most cliche indie game story to ever exist.. i am glad most indies choose to do 2d pixel art games.

>>714975779
maybe he loves it 'cuz he knows it'll get people invested when he writes Sans doing questionable things

>>714975976
Then the real question is what Kris would be without us, since if we side go with Susie he'd be neither the Girl nor the Cage.

>>714958423 (OP)
>No you can't have a character with a tv head because someone did it before
Nothing is 100% original, not even close to that

>>714977383
Wasn't there a theory a day or two ago about Kris having maybe seen the Prophecy in the Bunker, and wanting to remove himself from it? If the SOUL is the nexus of human fuckery and ability to mess with fate, Kris shoving his somewhere it didn't belong just to try and not be "in the prophecy" could explain some things.

>>714960364
That's not what you do with dolls, Ralsei...

How do you think the weird route is going to end?

>>714960540
>But he also look like Asriel
I like how Toby specifically took time in chapter 3 and 4 were say you're wrong.

>>714978046
In Kris' opinion
Other characters' first impressions are that they look essentially the same

>>714976059
So an eceleb

>>714978509
not any more so than Todd Howard is

>>714977663
All of Chapter 3 is a direct reference to TV Dinnah

>>714963631
A loveless marriage built upon toxic co-dependency due to being the only people who could possibly understand the fucked up shit they went through. Every so often there’s brief glimmers of the relationship they had as kids until the image of that bloody ring causes it to come crashing down

>>714977383
Kris isn't the hero. He's the Knight with blackened knife. He forced himself to be the cage and Dess is a replacement knight.

>>714978046
And Susie thinks a photo of Asriel is Ralsei + Photoshop. Kris going "nuh uh" about a topic he's emotionally charged on is way less evidence than that.

>>714978559
Todd's fame doesn't come from internet shenanigans

>>714978681
... Doesn't it?

>>714959709
it's retarded gimmicky slop for gay children

>>714978731
No

>>714963631
Abusive marriage or growing more distant from each other.

>>714959709
It was genre defining when it was released, issue is that everyone start copying it, so now almost every other RPG that allows non-violent options ties in being violent with bad ends and what have you.
If you hate that normally you'll despise it there.

>>714978865
... argument.

>>714978883
>It was genre defining when it was released
What did it do that its inspirations didn't already do

Had a dream last night about Ch 5, Spamton was being consumed by something, and you had to save him by giving him the banana. You could only do that by breakdancing on a one minute timer.

>>714959709
No, it's impossible for it to live up to the hype, and part of the reason people latched onto it is because it was a one-man indie game with rock bottom expectations. The best way to play Undertale is with no expectations at all. It's a quirky one-man indie game, don't go into it expecting anything more.

>>714979086
>KRIS!!! THEY'RE [Taking the furniture]!! I NEED A [Little yellow treat]! DO [The Macarena] YOU [$!$!]

>>714963631
A loving marriage where they finally admit their feelings for each other and have enough kids for a sleigh

>>714978954
The moral of "you don't have to kill anyone" was novel, plus the amount of interactive stuff you can find around was also praised a lot.
It put focus on a story with twists and turns and on original gameplay.
If by
>inspirators
You mean OP's picture, pretty much gave the player freedom?
Other RPGs used to have a pretty linear story, go from point A to B, kill who we tell you to kill, spare who we tell you to spare.
Undertale reworked it with you being able to be as homicidal or as peaceful as you cared to be.
You can't exactly spare random mobs in Paper Mario or Cave Story.

It's not necessarily a good or bad thing, for example I prefer games a bit like Underrail myself, where there's pretty much 1 ending and you have to murder everyone that doesn't surrender (and isn't carrying shit I want).

>>714979086
>>714979313
jej

Your slop, sirs

>>714960540
>But he also look like Asriel
kris doesn't seem to think so.

>>714979543

>>714958423 (OP)
I can handwave alot of OP's junk. Comparing Dedan to Papyrus is retarded because they're nothing alike, inspired doesn't mean copy.

That fucking said. Tenna stinks of 'I want a digital cirus funny man too'.

>>714979086
Now this is real schizocore.

>>714979636

>>714979656
Tenna is way better than Caine though, let's be honest.

>>714979656
Problem is, the "digital circus funnyman" set of tropes is way older than any of the examples in OP. Tenna is an archetype.

>>714979730

What video games does Kris play?

>>714979636
Let me guess - she is the one who gets Requiem

>>714979515
Moon did it first, you were just too underage to know it

>>714979850
The Legend of Zelda, obviously

>>714979850
Nowadays? He doesn't plays anymore. That's why he goes on /v/

>>714979487
Frisky rocks that outfit desu.

>>714979909
Have any other games had the Player / Player Character dichotomy of the Soul and Kris expressed as literally as in Deltarune

>>714980257
Undertale.
Mindjack.

>>714979909
That's an exact example of what he's saying though? There's no real choice, only how much of it you want to do.

>>714979656
Big difference is that Tenna is actually funny.

>>714979515
>>714979909
Toby himself was open about how his quirky one-man indie project was heavily influenced by multiple sources, the trick is that his influences were old enough that all of the Homestuck teenager fanbase never played them and so thought his game was novel.
Culture is cyclical and it's why "originality" is a meme. Just rip off stuff old enough that zoomers don't know what it is, simple.

>>714980358
Pacifist runs have existed since forever

>>714980105
How would maid Kris respond if you ask him to do a make delicious spell?

>>714979523
>no curtains
shit

>>714979736
>>714980382
Caine works for the show. Everything is meant to be wacky. I think Tenna right after Spamton (And by extention another MTT styled gameshow guy) feels like a repeat. Still funny though.
>>714979789
True. I mean I've lost track of how many characters are just 'normal dude with tv head'.

>>714979523
I finally understand abusive boyfriends now.

>>714980334
Undertale's player isn't as clear as Deltarune. There's just Chara and Frisk as characters.

>>714979086
That's child's play to my Spamton-adjacent dream from 3 years ago.
>Decide to build a video game-themed amusement park, except the characters are real.
>Only problem: me and my friends need a lotta fucking money, and now.
>My solution? What any sane man would do in this situation.
>Compromise an undisclosed foreign country's (probably Iran or Iraq) defense headquarters with ransomware, funnel money from their military budget to us, and all while impersonating Spamton (ironically, I'm also writing a cybersecurity essay as I'm posting this).
>Park construction goes well and fast, and various video game characters show up to start their jobs.
>All thanks to my "logistics".
>But it doesn't last forever.
>Eventually, the foreign country removes the ransomware, trace my IP to the park's location, and boot me from their network.
>My pretext as Spamton is dropped as I start actually panicking, but try to keep my loss of the park's "construction budget" a secret from my friends.
>Park construction is complete and we're days from the grand opening, weren't it for severe fog.
>Then someone, somehow, notices squads of fucking fighter jets from said foreign country are en route to bomb the place and my ass to hell.
>Before we start freaking out, we remember the video game characters.
>The fighter jets emerge from the fog over the park,only to be ambushed by, of all characters, the fucking aliens from Space Invaders.
>I shit you not, Duel of the Fates from Phantom Menace starts playing in my dream as the jets enter dogfights with the little 8-bit fuckers, and they actually take down most of the jets.
>Mission leader starts panicking just as the dream's perspective goes into a shoulder view of the REAL Spamton NEO blowing him and several other tangos out of the sky with Big Shots.
>Dream then fast forwards to me recounting this entire story to parkgoers in a disney world railroad-type ride.
>Spamton himself is in attendance, adorned in park merchandise.

>>714979909
MOON doesn't really give you a choice, even if you don't collect all the monster souls the game doesn't really care about that.
MOON itself isn't as subversive or up its own ass as Undertale about it outside of the intro. You're left to just befriend everyone.

>>714980409
Yeah and making a game wherein you legitimately CAN choose to kill or spare individuals, regularly, as a systemic thing, is entirely different from a game where the goal is to save everyone, or one where the goal is to just get through and you coincidentally don't have to make any kills.

>All these guys having actual schizo dreams
>Meanwhile all I get is riding a rollercoaster with Susie and Lancer

>>714980257
Baten Kaitos is probably my favourite example of player/protag dichotomy, even if the game itself isn't my favourite.

>>714980780
Not really

I decided to put the skeleton brothers in my autism project. Papyrus is fine, but a bit more serious. Gaster is perfect. But I can't get Sans' personality right at all. I seriously just wrote down "YOU GENOCIDAL SNOWGRAVING WHORE" in the script and I can't think of anything better.

>>714980846
everyone else gets schizocore dreams
you just get kriscore dreams

>>714980780
Deus Ex and MGS reward players for not killing anyone

>>714980846
The benefits of having a smooth brain, I’m jealous

>>714980257
Vangers had very similar plot where the game explicitly was a remote control system created by an in-universe characters. But the entity you controlled was completely featureless and shown no mind of its own, the interesting part of Deltarune is that Kris has his own ideas and agendas and he can even overrule (You) to certain point.

>>714980951
Re-read all his dialogue again, anon. You can do it.

>>714980758
Moon is more honest about it and a true pacifist game, UT is a cynical exploration of the concept that goads and tricks players into killing characters so it can hold it against them even after attempting to reload to avoid it

>>714980739
Anon's dream isn't a chore to read, that's for sure.

Why does Kriselle always get the best art?

>>714981314
suffering builds kino

>>714981314
Sufferkino and rapekino

>>714981248
>Undertale tricked me!
>Undertale is shaming me for killing characters I didn't want to kill!
You are told to spare things without a yellow name if it doesn't seem like ACTing works. This causes dialog to start in the first fight where it's relevant.
>b-but you're told to fight things until they're weak!
Within the context of a game where the whole point is "the monsters act like characters", you got the impression you were supposed to beat people until they were willing to leave you alone?

>>714981314
Because Angstchads keep winning

>>714981314
Women like it, and female artists always have that certain style that really fits this pairing.

>>714980758
>MOON itself isn't as subversive or up its own ass as Undertale about it outside of the intro
MOON's ending is one of the most "Up its own ass" things I've ever seen in the game. Seriously, the fact that they scrapped the Dragon's Road "endless cycle" ending for "GO OUTSIDE AND STOP PLAYING VIDEOGAMES, YOU'RE RETARDED FOR CARING ABOUT THIS WORLD YOU LOSER :^)" is one of the most insulting things I've ever seen.

>>714981530
None of that matters to what I said though

>>714958423 (OP)
theorytards please consult the graphic

>>714981704
>soul is not (you)
unbelievably retarded image, try again

This will be Noelle on Chapter 6's Weird Route.

>>714981748
watch when chapter 5 arrives and the soul becomes yet another character for the narrative outside of (You)r control

>>714958423 (OP)
Toby being inspired by yuusha shit like Ares from Brandish is based and he should do it more.

>>714981248
>so it can hold it against them even after attempting to reload to avoid it
someone post the "fell for flowey's bullshit again" award

>>714981748
the soul glows without your input, try again

>>714981615
What you said is obviously wrong, as Undertale is one of the least cynical games of its generation. I'm just approaching the "why".
>it tricked meeeeeee...
It's above your video game "reading level". It expected you to recognize the red herring for what it was.

>>714981814
Are you one of those ‘third entity’ retards?

>>714981814
If Toby does that, I lose all interest in this game immediately, because that would completely destroy the entire narrative that's been built thus far.

>>714980951
>YOU GENOCIDAL SNOWGRAVING WHORE
Just double down on this for maximum CATHARSIS.

>>714981869
>What you said is obviously wrong
It's not
> as Undertale is one of the least cynical games of its generation
It's extremely cynical
>>it tricked meeeeeee...
Projecting

The charges, officer?

>>714981704
Trying to fit deltarune with the trinity is real cool but I dont think separating the player from the [heart shaped object] was the best idea.

>>714981938
>it's not!
It is. Your failure to understand basic aspects of video games doesn't mean anything about Undertale.

>>714981814
This hack writing to the max
Almost Spec Ops: The Line tier player bashing
Only way that toby would do this if the soul is stolen and (You) have to create a new one

>>714981968
ALL ships? Well, don't mind if I fucking scooby-dooby-do!
Undyne/Harry Du Bois

>>714981938
>no arguments outside of "n-nuh uh!"
shit dude i'm not even the guy you're arguing with

>>714959709
It's actually decently funny, you'll get a few laughs from some lines but if you browse the internet just a bit in the last decade you'll quickly catch all the shitty dialogues that got over-memes to death.
Gameplay is minimal, the ultra easy bullet hell approach gets old realy quick. Genocide undyne and sans are mostly considered difficult in comparison to most of the piss easy game.
A single run is 5 to 6 hours so it's a short investment anyway.
The soundtrack is an actual masterpiece and only the biggest cum gazzling contrarian on this board would pretend otherwise. Everything is conveyed through reoccuring leitmotiv giving the whole soundtrack an almost opera-esque narrative progression. Saying it's bad because toby reused his own work or copied some chord progession proof this board do not know what is art on a fundamental level.

>>714980846
>>Meanwhile all I get is riding a rollercoaster with Susie and Lancer
Why is that a bad thing? It sounds fun

>>714981814
this would actually destroy Deltarune's narrative harder than snowgrave or Undertale's genocide route did and stain toby's reputation

>>714978046
Anon.
Everyone literally thinks they look exactly the same except for Kris.
Someone who knows asriel more than anyone else.
Even if "kris" Is right, it took someone who's known the guy for more than a decade to spot the differences.
He's gonna be slightly taller ralsei, probably with different colors though.

>>714981248
This is what I like about Undertale

>>714981248
>UT is a cynical exploration of the concept that goads and tricks players into killing characters so it can hold it against them even after attempting to reload to avoid it
why do only brown people hold this opinion

>>714981314
Is suselle an abusive relationship that involves a cosmic entity? Didn’t think so

>>714981314
Combine edgy + shipping and people go crazy
Geniune kino art keeps coming
>>714981809
this pasta was discontinued right?

>>714958423 (OP)
>anon discovers the concept of inspiration

Pizzarina is so perfect

>>714982187
Because only brown people have enough of a victim complex to see a character obviously intended as a shithead being a shithead about something "meta" and take it as a personal attack.

>>714982194
Why is the Spy there?

>>714981748
>>714982006
I'm not a ThirdEntityfag, but it's pretty clear that the soul is a distinct entity in-universe that we have a connection to, but that Kris can use independently of us when that connection is interrupted, such as using it to seal the TV World fountain without us.

>>714982268
what is the line that separates inspiration from imitation
the line that separates creation and stealing

She ruined them

>>714981748
SOUL being their own character would be based and it would destroy theoryfags.

>>714982187
>>714982361
You're dumb and racist. You don't speak on behalf of all the brown people online, and how they view UT/DR.

>>714982389
>moxxie: kris, the vessel
>blitzo: soul, the thing controlling the vessel
>spy: (you), the player who is sending the orders

>>714966085
We'll return to the Kris-House dark world later.

>>714982590
You don't destroy theoryfags. If the game disproves their theory they will just theory their way around it.

>>714982570
>Dess is the one who started Susiebowl and all the shipping wars in the community are her fault

>>714982039
It's not

>>714982090
>>714982187
>>714982361
Look at it this way
>two people claim to be animal rights advocates
>one person sets up an animal exhibit where you can pet them, play with them, see what they're like personally
>then the person explains that animals have feelings and rights too and that it's cruel to kill them for fleeting pleasures like meat, furs, leathers etc
>hurting the animals is not allowed

>other person sets up a stand with a button that promises free stuff
>whoever presses the button gets told it will kill an animal in order to obtain the free burger/fur/leather item necessary etc
>if the button pressers say "I would like to retract my button press to save the animal" they're met with "too late it's already dead you monster"
>every button press actually kills an animal
It's very hard for me to take the second person's animal rights claims seriously as they come off more as a cynical psychopath interested in toying with people rather than actually making a point about saving animals, anyone actually interested in animal rights would never create a way for people to easily kill animals

The existence of a way of raising animal rights awareness without killing them, automatically makes any exhibit where killing them is possible and even encouraged more cynical than the non-lethal one

>>714982684
>woodyfags explaining how their theory was actually for Ch5 the whole time

>>714982684
CORRECT

>>714982684
Those three anons disagree with you.
>>714981904
>>714982045
>>714981814

>>714979656
Tenna was first conceptualized back in fucking 2016

>>714982101
>The soundtrack is an actual masterpiece
You have not played enough games in your life

>>714982513
Processing. The more you understand something, the less you have to imitate it. Tenna has only surface level similarities to the characters he's being compared to, showing a high level of understanding.

>>714982858
Literally everyone disagrees with theoryfags

third entity worked in undertale where the focus was not specifically your relationship to the player character but wouldnt work again in deltarune where that is the focus. imagine if oneshot or off had a third entity and it wasnt literally (You) controlling niko or the batter. it would be shit

>>714982101
>Everything is conveyed through reoccuring leitmotiv giving the whole soundtrack an almost opera-esque narrative progression
This is lazy as hell though, the leitmotifs are reused everywhere with no thematic relation

>>714982927
Well, these anons do seem like they would abandon the game if their theory of player and SOUL being the same is right.

>>714983031
imagine outing yourself as a legitimate tertiary

>>714981968
Everything and nothing is canon, except Undertale Yellow.
>>714982125
It isn't, but I can't help but feel like I could do better. Maybe I need a life-threatening case of whatever Tobert had to cook up Deltarune.

>>714983030
There's no Third Entity in Undertale, just Frisk and Chara. I assume people who think the SOUL is their own character don't believe the player is diagetic.

Third entity niggas on their way to completely miss the point of deltarune:

>>714982807
Oh, so you're specifically saying the game is a bad and cynical argument for pacifism? That's funny, given the game isn't meant to be an argument for pacifism at all. The fact that you can do it and it has the best outcome is because it is the most obscure thing to do. The fact that you can kill everyone and it has the worst outcome is because it is the most obvious thing to "try" if you're out of other ideas. The moral stance of the game isn't about fucking pixel rights.

>>714982807
*beats the melanin out of your skin*

>>714983240
>>714983248
>missed the point entirely
That's what I get for trying to educate third worlders

>>714971090
PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

>>714982894
You have no listened to enough opera you scum.

What’s next for the fun gang?

>>714983312
Your point was that Undertale is cynical because it doesn't make the point you wanted it to about violence against video game characters.

>>714983120
Yeah the main hopes and dreams leitmotif sure is fucking thematically relevant in the shop theme because uhhhhh

>>714983401
Your point was that Undertale is not cynical because you really really liked it when it released when you were 13 years old

>>714983398
>susie a janny
a fate worse than death
she would be better of as a physical education teacher

>>714983521
It's not trying to make a point about whether you should feel bad about killing video game characters so it isn't "cynical" for it to let you kill them.

>>714983371
>comparing UT's bleeps and bloops to opera

>>714983398
>Jockington
>wanted for manslaughter in at least 3 states

>>714958423 (OP)
the spider girl was made by a kickstarter backer

To be fair, the amazing digital guy is just your average "tumblr sexy man"

>>714983521
I think it's interesting that everyone that acts like this always never posts with images, like you're desperately trying to cover something

>>714983680
Oh yeah
That girl
Uh... The girl that said she would use Muffet in other things outside of Undertale
That girl...
So what is she doing now with Muffet?
Hopefully something and not just leaving Muffet sitting in the corner doing nothing for years now.

>>714983654
Composition matters way more than instrumentation if you're not at the far extreme of one at the expense of another.

>>714983843
And UT's composition is rather meh

>>714981704
There are times the soul gets called both Kris's soul and Your soul

>>714983736
not him but wtf do you even mean by that?

>>714983654
>He doesn't know
https://youtu.be/srZdDAJbHfc

>>714958423 (OP)
The Once-ler comparison is fuckin killing me

>>714983896
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0nIKvtJoCc

>>714982807
I can't help but disagree because nothing really dies when you play a video game. Someone who reloads after killing Toriel might feel cheated, or they might be motivated to try and get the best ending, and the best ending leaves you pretty satisfied. Life has that kind of trial and error too
Undertale is truly cynical, of course, because it knows you'll come back soon for the rest of the game you bought

>>714983426
>why would the ultimate endgame boss comprised of every character in the game’s soul (minus one) who can feel all of their hopes and dreams(tm) use the leitmotif commonly used to symbolize the peace and optimism of the underground as a whole
sure is a mystery

>>714983654
Yeah, it's silly, right? The Undertale soundtrack is obviously more enjoyable than opera. Not even joking.

>>714983736
>Gon(er)dola

>>714983826
I remember the artist that did Muffet got into some controversy for drawing nsfw for her webcomic, dunno if it will have effects on future Muffet appeareance

>monster bleed in deltarune
>monster doesn't bleed in undertale
imagine how bloody the underground would look like if they did

>>714984000
Yeah this word salad proves my point that leitmotifs in UT are used fucking randomly

>>714984082
>monster bleed in Deltarune
Why are humans the ones "made of blood" then? Why is that considered a special human trait by a monster toddler? Sure toddlers are dumb but it feels overcomplicated for that dialogue to be put into a game where monsters do in fact bleed.

>>714984117
sure, now run back to the tendie thread

>>714984080
>muffet being left to rot in the abandoned OC shadow realm craving for [Freedom]

>>714983996
>I can't help but disagree because nothing really dies when you play a video game
True, but UT's entire pacifist point hinges on the idea you buy into the fictional characters as real people, to the point of messing with save files to drive that point home if you try to reload after killing them, you don't have to believe that the characters actually die but the game wants you to, Toby even tried to make the game delete itself after a genocide run in an attempt to involve even more real world consequences into it

>>714984237
Maybe humans are made of blood and monsters are made of blood + stuff that makes you dust on death

>>714984346
UT and DR are tendie games though, Toby loves suckin em off, he delayed the latest chapters so he can shill Nintendo's new console with their release

>>714984080
We'll never see that lovely spider again, will we?

I don't think Monsters are made of magic in Deltarune.

>>714983401
The whole reply chain started with a discussion of the purity of Moon's pacifism vs UT's

>>714984237
>Why are humans the ones "made of blood" then?
Monsters are made of ONLY magic in Undertale and that is part of their being, its like briging the question of what do they eat and also if can they get MEAT when the monster race is the only thing underground.

>>714958423 (OP)
The little king story/moon rpg is straight up criminal

>>714983638
see >>714984572

>>714984572
The reply chain started with someone calling Undertale a cynical work because of how it treats pacifism.

>>714984080
A bunch of tumblr children getting their panties twisted over a nsfw webcomic isn't going to mean shit to the King of Ero Games.
It's simply a case of "Toby doesn't want the UT characters to overshadow the DR characters" + "no point paying to bring an UT character in for a cameo."

>>714984082
it would be a very different genocide thats for sure

>>714984665
A cynical take on game character pacifism, that enables and even tricks players into killing characters, vs Moon that just doesn't let you do it

>>714984586
>Monsters are made of ONLY magic in Undertale
Yes, and a child bringing up what humans are "made of" is clearly meant to remind you of this concept. Monsters turn into dust when they die, unless there's a crematorium somewhere past the police tape.

>>714962382
Why wouldn't his own mom know he's in the hospital? They're in a small town and parents always put themselves down as contact information for if anything happens to their child when they're born as a baby.
>>714964357
The original French with a French-to-English dictionary or the first patch.

>>714984931
Shutup Susie

What's next for Noelle?

>>714984931
Use your tongue when you bite my face, Susie

>>714984931
Humans are not "made of" blood in real life. We're made of flesh and bone, with blood running through the body. The dumb kid thinks humans are just walking blood bags.
There's a ton of "this really doesn't make any sense" if DR monsters are the same as UT monsters, but people like you who insist they do only have one single line from a dumb kid to latch on to.

>>714984829
>cynical take on game character pacifism
And that makes the game overall "cynical" because...?
>tricks players
A common challenge is figuring out how to accomplish what you want to. If you wanted to save Toriel your first try specifically, you had every opportunity, you just blew it. The game isn't guilting you and it doesn't want you to never kill a game character again, it's an evil character mocking you for failing to do what you wanted to.

>>714984586
>if can they get MEAT when the monster race is the only thing underground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPdyaH2WgUo

>>714985006
Noelle will get stronger.

>>714981748
>soul is not (you)

unless you look like a pixelated heart irl, then yes that sprite is not you lol

>>714959709
It's a fun sincere little game and it's dirt cheap on sale. If you don't like it you're not losing much.

>>714985141
>The dumb kid thinks humans are just walking blood bags.
... and Occam's razor says that this is probably for a simple reason, like "he was taught blood is a human exclusive substance".
>There's a ton of "this really doesn't make any sense" if DR monsters are the same as UT monsters
When did I ever say they're the same? They can have magic-powered biology without having the ability to cast fireballs.
Susie is the only monster other than that kid who's mentioned blood in any serious capacity, and Susie doesn't know shit.

>>714984237
humans are 100% meat
undertale monsters are like 95% magic 5% meat
deltarune monsters are more meat but still enough magic that they turn into dust
to a kid monster, humans being a bunch of walking bags of blood that all look basically the same would sound weird when your neighbors are shit like ghosts, mike wazowski, and fire elementals

>>714984829
it's too bad the turdie logic doesn't work when even the game itself doesn't actually think this should apply to the real-world kekypow

Humans are like mostly made of water
Monsters are likely mostly made of magic
sounds about right to me

>>714984372
Does Undertale's "pacifist point" exist
I think it has much more interest in your reflecting on your own desires than IRL pacifism

Sometimes I feel like an ESL learns a term for the first time (e.g. "cynical") and shoehorns it into contexts that only makes sense under their perception of how they think English works.

>>714985629
>Does Undertale's "pacifist point" exist
No, Toby is fully self aware that none of this shit is meant to be taken literally, it's just a game with a niche premise

>>714985214
>And that makes the game overall "cynical" because...?
Well the reply chain even further up started with an anon claiming UT's was genre defining for its pacifist gameplay, so I would say if such a core part of the game is cynical we can call the game a cynical game

>A common challenge is figuring out how to accomplish what you want to. If you wanted to save Toriel your first try specifically, you had every opportunity, you just blew it.
There's still an intentionally programmed trick in the fight that makes her die in one hit if her health is below 50%, an exceptional case in the whole game, that was placed there for a reason

>The game isn't guilting you and it doesn't want you to never kill a game character again, it's an evil character mocking you for failing to do what you wanted to.
To go back to the animal rights analogy, the equivalent would be the person with the animal-killing-button not directly condemning button pressers for killing animals, but rather putting a person in a mascot suit there and instructing them to berate anyone that presses the button, while telling everyone the mascot suit is an evil character and that they, the organizer, don't personally care if anyone presses the button or not, still a pretty cynical and kind of schizophrenic thing to do that doesn't reassure me about their animal rights goals

>>714984529

>>714984372
>UT's entire pacifist point hinges on the idea you buy into the fictional characters as real people
Undertale makes no such point and does not have any such expectation. The reason the characters get sad when you kill them is so they're harder to kill if you're still attached to them. Undertale's point is about finding what you enjoy in a game and not feeling like you have to see every part of any one thing you like.

>>714985405
Occam's razor says a dumb kid is just a dumb kid. The alternative is that Susie is a super special creature who doesn't know it and thinks all monsters are the same as her even though she's been in Hometown long enough to realize that's not the case and knows about monster funerals even if you don't read the book about it.

>>714985775
people get asshurt over the term "media literacy" but the sheer amount of people who don't realize that Toby never intended for this to be hailed as some hallmark of real-world values is proof that the term is justified

>>714985405
Then why does Susie bleed, anon
You think she's half-human don't you

>>714985534
>>714985629
>>714985775
>>714985879
Making a game about being nice to game characters while not caring about game characters yourself is pretty cynical

>>714959709
It doesn't live up to the hype, because the internet overhyped it to hell and back, but it's definitely worth playing. That being said, go in and play it how you want to, not how anyone says you should.

>>714985871
I wonder if it's worth getting. I normally prefer having more money than more defense, but this must be a situational item

>>714985879
>Undertale's point is about finding what you enjoy in a game and not feeling like you have to see every part of any one thing you like.
By making it so there's correct and incorrect ways to play depending on what you want to see?

real poopy joe here, i actually quite like deltarune.

>>714984441
fuck off nigger, UT/DR arent tendie games because they're actually fun and dont require cultists to pretend they are.

>>714986039
you sound like a failed gaslighter that tried to do this charade with multiple people you knew IRL, failed each time, and now you're stuck on 4chan simulating the same gimmick 24/7

>>714959709
No. It's entirely held up by the "humor." Playing it's just boring.

>>714985817
>an anon claiming UT's was genre defining for its pacifist gameplay
That anon was simply wrong. UT wasn't "genre defining". Nor was pacifism one of the points. It's purely a delivery mechanism for the real point of the game.
>There's still an intentionally programmed trick in the fight
I do not believe a single person who kept attacking until her health was at 50% would've stopped even if she was at like 5%. The point is to make it clear that you can't "whittle her down".
>putting a person in a mascot suit there and instructing them to berate anyone that presses the button, while telling everyone the mascot suit is an evil character and that they, the organizer, don't personally care if anyone presses the button or not
... do you think Disney endorses the behavior of every villain they've ever made a costume for? Christ anon you're stupid.

>>714986039
How would you get that point across if you don't give the player an opportunity to be awful to them? If you just make a game where you have no other option but to be nice, then you'll just end up with revers Spec Ops. It's the free will in Christian interpretation - you can't be good if you don't have an opportunity to be evil.

>>714986098
3+4 gave us enough high power items that most of my money gain in chapter 4 was just selling stuff. Like I'm not going to need another sword for Kris while the Black Shard exists, same with an Axe for Susie while the Hammer and Devilknife exist, etc.

>>714985945
I find all those "the game is punishing me for killing everything" threads/posts really funny
you actually get rewarded with greater challenges to overcome and more content, but the video game characters being, well, in character and telling you you're evil and a monster is somehow supposed to be a direct insult to the player or something
some people are so alien to fiction it's unreal

>>714986029
I think part of the reasoning why people believe Susie is half human is that this would imply that humans and monsters Fuck which is really hot

>>714986098
I have shitton of money anyway, I'll just grind a bit and get it when I'll be replaying chapter 4.

>>714986149
Oh, no, any part of the game is fine if it's what you want to see. But someone who feels upset about their having killed characters despite thinking it was what they wanted to can gain something from the experience

>>714986149
... yes? I don't know how this sounds like an "own" to you. Of course, depending on the content you find enjoyable and engaging, there are right and wrong things to do. This is true in every game ever made. How else should it work?

>>714986098
It's probably best to equip during secret and chapter boss fights so that you can make back your earnings on regular encounters. Or you can just negate that with the Dealmaker and Silver Cards.

>>714983894
I think he's inferring that whenever someone is playing the role of a chronic disingenuous shitposter, they'll stop using images for a couple of hours as they fire off their gimmick on all cylinders

>>714986178
You sound like you ran out of arguments and are resorting to ad hominem

>>714986349
>>714986383
Then why trick players into doing something they don't want and prevent them from course correcting

>>714982737
What the fuck happened to Ralsei

Between Flowey and Mantle, UT/DR has made it clear that the a/v/erage poster is incredibly easy to gaslight

>>714986029
Simpler than assuming I could cut the fire elemental and get ordinary red liquid blood.

>>714986404
Honestly? Based. You're right and always right, and the thread graciously concedes to your divine providence.

Why does it need Noelle to become stronger so badly?

>>714986098
For the time being it's one of the better items since the only other armors that give 5 defense is the Tenna Tie (which also gives you -2 magic) and the Dealmaker.
You can very easily make this money by simply selling the ton of shit you already have or just not skipping encounters. For example I had around 16k by the time I got to the fountain and I didn't even grind. It might honestly get powercrept in the very next chapter but whatever since getting money is easy as hell, even if you're a huge hoarder like me

>>714981586
Thanks you for telling me, I will now drop Moon.
You've helped me to save time, anon. Thanks you.

I will NEVER respect ANY game that tries that shit of a message on me.

>>714986294
You sound like you're projecting, the point is that a game containing that sort of circus in the first place means it's extremely cynical and jaded

>>714986589
Because she can.
And because she can, she will.

>>714986589

>>714959709
it's gay

>>714986491
To be clear, we're talking about killing Toriel?

>>714986519
Jokes on the both of them, I was always retarded.

>>714986636
every accusation is a confession btw

>>714986491
It does neither of those things. If you don't want to see content relating to Toriel's death then don't attack her.
>BUT THEN HOW DO I WIN?!?!?!?
Shit man I dunno, if "I need to win and see more" was more important than "I don't want Toriel to die" then I guess you didn't want her to live that badly.
>THAT'S A TRICK
Explain how.

>>714960540
>cringe if they ever started dating in any route
Any homo dating in public is cringe.

How the fuck is kris carrying around the dealmakers as apart of their ball of junk?
Did they download abunch of spam emails to a usb drive? But spamton's like, the spambot itself, so they downloaded the spambot off the computer? Is that a thing you can do? When you download something you aren't literally moving it, you're making a copy of it. Is the Spamton we have a clone then?

>>714986491
Because it's a very short indie game where reloading and resetting are plot points. You "course correct" by doing that.
It's also why Deltarune is so heavily chapter-based, because you can go back to previous chapters and get optional items like eggs and shadow crystals and later chapters will act like you always had them so you don't need to do a brand new playthrough for them.

>>714981586

>>714986227
>I do not believe a single person who kept attacking until her health was at 50% would've stopped even if she was at like 5%.
That doesn't change the fact the trick is objectively coded into the game so the Flowey scene can go off for most players
>... do you think Disney endorses the behavior of every villain they've ever made a costume for?
Disney movies are passive entertainment and not comparable to this case

>>714986589
kris has too much control, if noelle becomes our new vessel we can do another genocide route

>>714986796
it's dark in kris' pocket

>>714986732
don't reply to low effort posts

>>714986731
kino cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA&list=RDDxPHMcpuYeA&start_radio=1

>>714959709
I liked it. The gameplay is pretty varied, and dev has knack for writing jokes that land consistently.

>>714986261
You do it like Moon and get a non-cynical pacifist game, or like UT and get a cynical pacifist game, or like Spec Ops and get an extremely cynical pacifist game

>>714982075
How very Disco of you.

just started playing this, does lancer ever die? im on ch2 and dont want to play if lancer dies.

>>714981586
what low LOVE does to a mf

>>714986796
if you interact with the computer lab trashcan after sealing cyber world, it says theres a bunch of printed out spam emails stuffed in it, thats assumedly spamton and his dumpster. so to answer your question he probably just took the printouts and absorbed it into the junkball

>>714986738
>It does neither of those things
It does, she's the only character in the game that's guaranteed to die after one hit when her health drops below 50%

>>714986910
i will always love these cup knights
heavy patapon vibes from them too

>>714963631
They're gonna roleplay the entire Emergence manga.

>>714986978
Lancer is Lancer

>>714986956
So did you ever realize I've been using an LLM to reply to your posts yet

>>714986978
Lancer lives. For now...

>>714984237
The better question is why does *Susie* have blood?

>>714986652
>kris is frisk (loves pie, houses the player)
>noelle is chara (consistently breaks games, enjoys the evil route, had to get all the [rare cats] because she could even if it came at the cost of all her other digital cats)
i dont want to believe the "actually, noelle is the evil shithead and kris is scared of her" theory but the game makes it really hard not to.

>>714986796
> * (It's a recycling bin.)
> * (Looks like someone accidentally printed off a lot of useless emails.)

>>714958423 (OP)
glad I'm not the only one who thinks Ralsei looks like Arthur.

>>714986732
Confession of what? I haven't made a game with conflicting morals

>>714986796
It's a microSD card with Spamton's program on it.

>>714986863
>so the Flowey scene can go off for most players
... who wanted to not kill Toriel but were too stone cold dumb to realize attacking kills people.
>Disney movies are passive entertainment
That's why I said costumes. The villain costumed actors still act like bad guys. Does Disney endorse them?

>women are self inserting as noelle during snowgrave
once again i aint surprised by female degeneracy

>>714987047
It does not. The characters you attack are hurt and killed. How is this a trick? It's the mechanics doing as described.

>>714986978
No

>>714982825
TRUST THE PLAN
OR ELSE I'LL BE THE FRIEND INSIDE YOU

>>714959709
It's either a boring game or a fairly challenging fight (literally for just two fights)
The plot is pretty bad except for pacifist

>>714987127
you keep replying to posts that get under your skin despite trying to disassociate

>>714987264
The animation was cool and all but it sounds like nothing toby would actually make.

>>714987051
>Always climbing to a high place to find a princess
They're just like me

>>714987153
Eh, it's the same deal as with men loving femdom. People are just lazy shits and want their partner to do all the job in the bed.

It will be a kino moment when Susie opens up to Kris about her tail.

>>714987137
>... who wanted to not kill Toriel but were too stone cold dumb to realize attacking kills people.
Which doesn't change the fact her battle has this uniquely coded condition
>That's why I said costumes. The villain costumed actors still act like bad guys. Does Disney endorse them?
My animal rights evil mascot simile didn't mean to imply the organizer endorses the evil mascot, but rather that the organizer is cynical for creating that situation, so yeah I'd say Disney is a pretty cynical company for supposedly condemning their amoral villains yet using them as funny characters in their parks

>>714987102
Sure, but how the fuck are Lanino and Elnina in castle town when Tenna leaves?
They're not objects, they're part of Tenna kinda

>>714987292
You sound like you're projecting

I can't tell what this guy is on about desu, I think his end conclusion is that he thinks everyone except himself is cynical and he's the arbiter of all morality ever

>>714984237
Susie only bleeds in the dark world (yet)

>>714987381
She will only do this with Noelle. Sorry bro

>>714986812
>Because it's a very short indie game where reloading and resetting are plot points. You "course correct" by doing that.
Sounds like the exact opposite thing you'd want in such a game

>>714987381
>options are "compliment it" and "sure is short"
>if you compliment it, Susie gets flustered and clams up
>if Kris insults it, she snaps back at him then they bond over being two freaks

>>714961364
Noelle would be a giga chad if male, she's already as close to a Stacy as you can get even if her preferences are weird.

>>714987507
KEEP replying dog, you have no idea how many tasty (You)s I've been gobbling up

>>714987464
They went from being the weather channel to being weather apps.

>>714977383
>Then the real question is what Kris would be without us,
Pure gremlin energy. The chill vibes he normally gives off is our doing.

>>714958423 (OP)
It's funny you bring up Caine because that voice became popular from Spamton fan videos.

>Is hours late
>immediately jobs and gets sent to the rape sacrifice dungeon in the bunker
What went so wrong with Cuckdyne?

>>714987204
It does though, since there's an exception for that fight only

op be like

So what happens if you try opening a Dark Fountain on a Titan

>>714986796
downloaded spamton on his phone duh

>>714986519
I trust that suttly Mantle with my life, therefore she is right about everything

>>714987753
The Roaring
Duh

>>714987614
>sure is short
Lol, this would be cute

>>714987558
>asks Noelle time and time not to bring up her tail
>Noelle does it anyway
Yeah nah, just by doing that she confined herself to the chair already

>>714987650
They can just do that?

>>714987753
It would be extremely painful

>>714987517
funny enough I would call his behavior irony poisoned

>>714958423 (OP)
>Anon discovers tropes and stereotypes

>>714960076
somebody post the copypasta

>>714987772
(You) and Kris will suffer immensely for your incompetence.

>>714981968
Hussie also did that

Post art where Noelle has a long face

any lucid dreamers itt? can someone dream up a better plot for this game?

>>714987878
Why not? The top weather apps are usually from companies that started as TV channels.

>>714987420
>uniquely coded condition
Which changes nothing about how the fight plays unless you're not really thinking about the game at all, in which case you shouldn't care about the outcome.
>so yeah I'd say Disney is a pretty cynical company for supposedly condemning their amoral villains yet using them as funny characters in their parks
Holy fucking shit. So people being able to engage with something interactively means the person who made that experience endorses the experience? No. Fundamentally no.

>>714988005
Well, I've seen this in my dream back during chapter 2 days, maybe you can use this somehow.

>>714987701
Have some faith in her anon
the MOGGED knight will be HUMBLED by OFFICER UNDYNE
ARRIVING ON THE SCENE

>>714988050
two twins fall into the underground and we play as only one of them. We sacrifice the other and escape by killing a boss monster who's unmentioned in Undertale because idk lol. We have the red soul and they have the green

>>714987558
Noelle is trying and trying but she's only forcing herself on Susie.
The right one doesn't have to try.

>>714988153
>Which changes nothing about how the fight plays unless you're not really thinking about the game at all, in which case you shouldn't care about the outcome.
Which changes nothing about the intent of the fight as made apparent by the unique code
>Holy fucking shit. So people being able to engage with something interactively means the person who made that experience endorses the experience? No. Fundamentally no.
No it means they're cynical, which is exactly what I stated in the previous post

>>714986491
To have the player question what it is they want to see

>>714988283
Susie deserves better than N*elle

>>714961364
Femkris raping Noel is hot.

>>714988283
Yeah bro Susie’s tail just wags for no reason around Noelle

leaked Ralsei light world

>>714988348
I wholeheartedly agree

Chudyrus

>ctrl+f "cynical"
>31 results

>>714988454
>susellefags still autistically count how many times Susie blushed around Noelle while Krusiechads have scenes like this (followed by an indirect kiss no less)

>>714988560
I want chud papyrus so much just because it would be so fucking funny if toby does it right

>>714988494
What's with the people leaving interface on their art lately? Is it an anti-AI thing?

>>714988454
She in general hides her tail so we cant really tell how often and why she does it. Probably does that when happy and excited.

>>714988617
Optional scene. Not important

>>714969575
Meow meow mew wouldn't be trans in DR, would be funny if she was though, like talking about her successful transition and she's just posting selfies of her true female coochie (it just has scars painted with shitty red markers)

>>714981968
Krisusie chads WE FUCKING WON!!!

>>714988617
the blush is what sells the scene

>>714986516
He became Colombo.

>>714988765
Only optional scenes matter.

>>714959709
/v/ pretends to hate it for internet cred so naturally it's good.

>>714988685
I think these are screenshots from fucking iPads or something. I would imagine it's such a pain in the ass to crop a picture, save a file, and then post in on twitter that a lot of people just take screenshots for cropping photos. This is just a theory though.

>>714958423 (OP)
Do i have good taste for not liking any of these trash designs? I don't know what type of person you have to be to be into the art style of deltarune its like something a middle schooler would think is cool.

>>714988964
Who's the character on the right?

>>714988964
All this time I thought Kris wanted to get drunk on communion wine.

>>714972301
Insert Piccolo's theme here

>>714989103
Thanks for posting

>>714972969
This is just Soul Reaver Raziel with extra steps. Replace the z with an s and you can rearrane that name to spell Ralsei

>>714989167
According to my parents, when I was given sacramental wine after baptism, I yelled "More!"

>>714989196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dhS-H7THzA

>>714989196
Love these two chuuni retards

>>714978002
final fight with Berdly waking up from the coma coming to to kill us in either the dark world or light world with megalo strike back playing

>>714989167
I thought it was wine at first too. What is the red and yellow stuff anyway? I never went to church

>>714979850
Postal 1 specifically, as a tik tok incel would

>>714983351
>sonic & knuckles final boss playing in the distance.

im in the camp that this is all one big attack on titan reference where kris is the knight and he's timelooped somehow.

or it's asriel timelooping himself with ralsei.

>>714990159
It blows my mind how much chemistry they have despite not even being able to talk.

What would the sex between them be like?

>>714983654
Undertale's music is better.

>>714981854
Kris takes slight control of the soul in the chapter 3 secret section when (you) try to go to the bunker, succeeding to push us back, even if for a short while, so he has some semblace of control of the soul

>>714988454
noelle is the only one who's staring at susie's ass hard enough to notice the two (2) times she did it around her
we have no idea if susie did it any other time, and given how low energy the noelle interactions are that got susie's tail wagging, i'd bet that the scenes where susie's actually having fun it's going crazy

>>714990723
Awkward.

>>714990951
I can imagine herself propelling herself like a helicopter with how fast it would wag

>>714986519
Mantle was right about Kris being a shit.

>>714986978
Lancer lives. Based taste.

>>714987091
Ralsei says Kris favorite is chocolate. Tenna was wrong.

>>714991179
He said that about very specific piece of chocolate that came from Asriel's jacket.

>>714988560
This would be kino. Papyrus is always the best character.

>>714990613
Will Kris be KEKED like Eren?

>>714969575
His fedora design is going to get redone into being a salaryman gettup because he's working a grueling remote job to pay for his brother's weird business hours and finance his girlfriend Muffet's bakery.

>>714991179
>Ralsei says Kris favorite is chocolate. Tenna was wrong.
Kris coughs to signal to you that the right answer is pie, dumbass.

>>714991507
Yes, but it’s ok because he can be with Berdly!

>>714991557
>Papyrus is fedorafreak

>>714991617
Kris also coughs at the end of the Knight battle

Papyrus is a rude right winger neckbeard with an affinity for my little pony, basically the average 4chan user

>>714991759
damn hope he doesn't catch a cold in chapter 5
we were walking in the rain too

>>714989346
wtf I'm in the middle of playing the games rn (currently on Blood Omen 2)

>>714990613
oh hey i remember those memes

>>714991617
So that we would pick what Tenna thinks is right.

>>714991646
>Gayshit.

was this really meant to be a rape allegory?

>>714990725
You are underage

>>714993458
Either way something was FORCED onto her. So yes.

I wish you all a janny-free day.