Thread 715051447

>pay raises
>AI protections
>control of their image and likeness

voice actor stans, we WON

>>715051447 (OP)
mafia cult

>>715051447 (OP)
I give it a year before they're on strike again. Which won't matter because they were all working during the strike anyways.

PAY VOICE ACTORS TO VIRTUE SIGNAL WITH YOUR CHARACTERS AND FRANCHISE ONLINE

>american VAs will now plague every game again
fuck.

Why should I hire VAs and not just make Banjo Kazooie noises out of edited free samples

https://youtu.be/K-alVW-ldyA
https://youtu.be/ci8dIpNcyEY

>>715051447 (OP)
and this is why you join a union

We really need more Debra Wilson voice acting in gaming. There just isn't enough of her in there. She's in like what; over 100 roles? Let's make that 500.

Great news, everyone!
You can hire Gianni to voice degenerate furry porn for you since he's desperate for more money and had no respect for himself to not straight up just dive into online prostitution!

>>715051447 (OP)
What's stopping devs from hiring people who aren't part of that? Oh yeah, nothing. Retarded devs gonna be retarded and keep hiring terrible burger VAs anyway because of nepotism instead of rationality and then they will cry because the budgets keep increasing and gamers don't want to pay $100€ for a game when their rent has gone up 50% in the past few years but their income didn't.

>>715051447 (OP)
Is that logo of the hand clutching the controller AI? I can't tell

>>715051860
wait, there's fully voiced furry porn? where?

Cool, I'm still never using dubs, playing woke shit games, or playing generic western trash anyway

>>715051701
Because apparently people won't like that if the reception to Yooka-Laylee is anything to go by.

>>715051971
What a retard.

>>715051971
The only official product i heard LK in was Tales of Zestiria where he jumpscared me as the fucking pope, i had to do a triple take.
So if anything, it's better if he stays out of official dubs.

>>715051963
>where?
https://furry34.com/post/340084

Game called Anthro Heat. He voices a sissy robot lizard.

>>715052010
I'm glad AI will replace these faggots.

>>715052171
>He voices a sissy robot lizard.

>>715051447 (OP)
Meanwhile the rest of the world that isn't america doesn't give a shit. No good games come out of america anyway. It's all europe and japan.

>>715051601
this is her now btw. she's begging to be given more roles to reach whatever threshold the union arbitrary assigned for her to finally be eligible for health benefits from them... which she hasn't had at all in the whole past decade she's been part of sag.

i miss when gameboy games made little beeps as though the text was being written out in real-time.

>voice actors
It's 2025. 5 years since 2020, the year of THE future, and you still want your fictional characters manually voiced by other human beings?? Why let your character be LENT a voice by some idiot when you as their creator can give them their OWN voice through modern day technological advancements? Their. OWN. VOICE.

Voice ACTORS are officially IRRELEVANT. Respect your creations more, breathe YOUR life into them instead of letting others do it for you.

>>715052010
>accidentally admitting that "natural speaking voice" would betray the facade
Well, when you put it like that, it sounds absolutely embarassing, doesn't it?

>>715051919
Those va will get blacklisted and never be allowed to do a union job.

>>715052253
Yes, he is gay.
Just look at him now.

>>715052353
I don't know which one >he is supposed to be

>>715052353
He also paints his nails, for whatever bizarre reason.

>>715051447 (OP)
>he thinks VAs won anything
lol
lmao

>>715051447 (OP)
>We won
By losing all their jobs to Brit VAs? I mean I guess.

So they're just not going to hire any SAG workers.

>>715052331
You're not allowed to tell them this means they have absolutely ZERO emotional range either, because that would be discriminatory. :^)
it would be funny if it weren't sad
(it's still kinda funny)

>>715052417
I for one am welcoming the new Ace attorney setting of Liverpool.

>>715051447 (OP)
>got replaced by cheaper European VAs across the industry
>likely lose roles to them for future casting
>won
kwabs

The last thing these talentless queers need is a pay rise. Companies aren't going to waste money compensating a bunch of already overpaid middle-aged bulldykes to train AI on their shrill, croaky voices when it's cheaper to export the role to overseas talent.

>>715052679
Rejection by both worlds logic, simple as.

>>715052679
so close to understanding, yet so far......

>here's what union voice actors actually want you to sign before hiring them onto a projects
Meanwhile, indie ones alone do not of this crap.
You can just agree on payment, schedule then, then having it all done and ready without even having to sign any kinds of contracts.
You just verbally agree to each other and trust that neither is going to fuck each other since you know you're both just people trying to get by and get some work done.

>>715051860
He's a fag but isn't his involvement in that already years old by this point

>>715052337
Voice acting is not a job

>>715051701
Because there was a period where almost every single indie game did that and the Banjo Kazooie-voice fatigue is kicking in hard and nobody wants to hear that shit again for the next decade.

>>715052171
>sissy
based
>robot
ehh
>lizard
disgusting

>>715052859
I don't have new material to post aside from him interacting with tranny related shit on BlueSky and supporting violence towards those who oppose them.

It's just fun to bring up the shit he used to write on Twitter, especially since he nuked his whole account to try and escape the kind of retarded stuff he said on there. But the screencaps of it still remain.

>>715051447 (OP)
Great now voice actors are going to be twice as entitled and annoying.

>>715052010
>>715052679
>Voiced a character universally hated and gave a performance so bad that it harmed the reputation of the game
I don't think anyone who knows who Sena is will ever listen to the opinion of that retard.

>>715053171
And jobless

Based unionized workers winning again. Anyone who doesn'tike this is unironically a scab bootlicker.

>>715051701
I unironically want more games either like this or just has generic clicks.
I want to be able to imagine and interpet the characters voices and not have it ruined by 'voiced by Twitterhandle McFaggot' for the 9000th time

>>715051919
>keep hiring terrible burger VAs anyway because of nepotism
I don't doubt they have connections, but I also believe management is retarded enough to believe that paying 10x for a "well-known" VA will result in 15x the sales because that's how it works in movies (I'm not sure if it still works)

>>715053427
they didn't win shit

Who cares? Thank to their strike studios simply started to hire people outside the US. Amerimutt voice acting is dead

>>715053232
who did he or she voice

>>715053817
>>715051601
>>715052298
apparently she got a role as the ENG dub voice of the narrator in that shitty Y0 Switch 2 port.

>>715053817
>>715053817
i totally understand hiring influencers but holy shit, how fucking grim

>>715053679
i kinda want a AAA game, like the whole package but it's voiced by pajeets
imagine if the nu god of war was voiced by them

>>715053741
The tiger from FF14 that /v/ shitposted about last year, apparently so bad even normalfags hated the character
Never played it, but I recognize this scene from the threads about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8e_akq7iYM

Can't wait till AI replaces them

>>715053878
>yakuza
>eng dub
Why?
Literal waste of money.

>>715054017
wow holy shit

>>715054017
It was so bad they tried to salvage it by having some lines re-recorded and put in one of the patches, but it's still an atrocious job overall.

>>715053741
Wuk Lamat in Dawntrail. A character so bad it made me skip cutscenes, and I've played the game and loved every expansion since 1.0. I also haven't played the game since September last year it's that bad

>>715051447 (OP)
vidya voice acting was at its prime when it was just nerds voicing their characters

>>715051701
Just try to make it sound less like cock gargling and you're good.

>>715051447 (OP)
I unironically prefer programmer voices to the average professional voice actor in videogames.

>>715051701
i've seen more games ruined by VA than improved by them
i think Undertale/Deltarune is the way to go where everyone has their own sound

>>715054017
What the fuck, this sounds like one of those bad mid-2000s fandubs

Why is it so bad? Did they have budget left to get actual actors?

>>715054210
Apparently 50% of all anime watched on netflix are dubbed

>>715052506
Eat your fish and chips, apollo.

>>715051447 (OP)
All it took was exposing the voice actor union as a racketeer group and turning away every gacha developer from the US VA scene. What an overwhelming win.

>>715051447 (OP)
The most random no-name VA outside NA shits all over the most popular NA VA's.
It's an untapped gold mine outside of the generic NA shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nAW7EsevM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqj_jStUJQc

>>715054598
>Half of Netflix users watch anime in japanese
That's better than I expected

Most companies seem to do just fine working with non-union voice actors. Turns out speaking into a microphone isn't a rare skill that justifies organized labor protection.

>>715054758
And they'll try their hardest to make sure these people never get roles again
They rightfully belong to beloved top donator and member, Troy Baker

>>715052831
>here's what union voice actors actually want you to sign before hiring them onto a projects
>you
Are you a gaming studio exec anon?

>>715055819
>complaining about a free You

>>715055819
they're handing out contracts like that for even indie creators, as long as the project is like 30 minutes in length or so and considered "full-length" they will ask for residuals and other dogshit.

>>715051447 (OP)
How many publishers play ball with them after strike?

>>715051971
Someone post his wife.

>>715052010
>Westoids grew up watching cartoons where voice acting is dominated by theatrical voice acting
>anime and most non-toon video games prefer natural speaking voices for a lot of lines
>"THAT'S DISCRIMINATION"
Why am I suddenly losing sympathy

>>715051447 (OP)
>Get hired by no one anymore
kek

>>715051447 (OP)
>Fuck over companies for a year
>Force them to pay you more if they hire you in exchange for fucking them over
>IF they hire you
Yeah that is going to go over extremely well

>>715054017
Sounds good, why were people crying about this?

>>715051782
What makes a faggot that gets hired to voice literal nobodies on literal nothingburgers this overconfident?

>>715051914
And companies used to hire people to shoot striking workers, but that shit was a long time ago.

>>715051919
The union uses insidious tactics to flip non-union jobs to working with the union. So yeah, you can try to hire non union actors, but that doesn't stop them from being pressured into joining the union (or get blacklisted from all union jobs) or striking on behalf of the union even though neither you or them are union members.

>>715054017
to be fair XIV has always had bad english VA so having a tranny voice a girl isn't that much of a departure from their usual garbage.

>>715052010
Tranny

>>715052313
>and you still want your fictional characters manually voiced by other human beings
Actually I don't want my characters voiced at all.

>>715051447 (OP)
English voice acting will go extinct before it becomes good.
I'm so glad that VA in my language is performed by qualified professionals that don't make everything about themselves and don't make every character sound the same across every form of media.

>>715054412
There still hasn't been any voice acting better than JC Denton.
I'm assuming JC is supposed to sound autistic.

>>715051601
I always thought Nintendo avoided voice acting unions like the plague, and would dump someone the moment they joined a union?

>>715052679
>I don't know if you're refusing to hire me because you think I'm a man or because you think I'm a woman but it's one of those two
Maybe you just aren't any good at it.

>>715054389
>*Tranny voice* SCHPHEEEEENNNNNEEEEE!

>>715051447 (OP)
We?

>>715052313
I dunno, man, I just listened to the grok4 livestream and when they had it do voices it didn't sound any better than the AI voices of a few years ago.

PAY VOICE ACTORS FOR WHAT THEY'RE WORTH!

>>715056938
>anime
>natural speaking voices

>>715057263
hubris

>>715057873
they have the same worth as jannies

>>715051447 (OP)
It was never about AI

>>715051447 (OP)
Did he post this before or after he was done jerking off Kojima?

>>715052409
>He also paints his nails
ahh yes, standard issue early behaviors on the "confused autistic person - troon" pipeline

>>715054017
this is the "Kal-El no!" of VA performances

>>715051782
If he is so super booked and doesn't see himself getting replaced any time soon, why is he raising such a big ruckus over this matter? Is he insecure of what he is saying?

>>715054591
Kate wants every fictional culture to be based off the real thing, so they hired americans from Atlas talent based in LA. Sena had his demo reel listed under female in the interactive section of their site, and thats literally the only female voice he can do, look up his own demo reel on youtube, its all male roles minus Wuk. Anyone listening to it with 0 context would think its some husky older spanish woman. But its just some skinny white dude doing the only voice he can do. I have to imagine they made a mistake when they picked that

>>715052298
>Probably paid tens of thousands in dues at this point
>Doesn't even have healthcare
kek

test

>>715051971
ATTENTION DUELISTS

why is this board so autistically against voice actors?

>>715051447 (OP)
what did they win? Tons of people lost their jobs forever because of the strikes. Look at the mess it left in Hoyo games.
And who the fuck is "new interactive media"? Clearly it ain't Hoyo.

If they consider this a victory... these fuckers are clowns.

>>715062610
>why is this board so autistically against voice actors?

Nobody is against voice actors. You're free to celebrate your "win" as you please. We're free to talk about how much you've actually lost in reality. We're keeping it real while you're acting like you won a war

No company has to agree to the union demands. You have no leverage to force any company to do jack shit. They can just fire you and hire people elsewhere. Voice actors act like celebrities and thought fans would side with them. But in reality, they're all replaceable.

>>715051701
Theres honestly retards out there that don't like it. I remember I was playing Okami on the ps2 in college, and some guys were annoyed at the chirping voice acting. These are probably the same type of retards that defend voice acting in Fallout 4 and don't like silent main characters

>>71506261
Half of the posters on this board are actual bootlickers who will fight tooth and nail to have companies release as much slop content as possible

>>715064130
Shitty voice actors are worse than no voice actors.

>>715053643
I know at least a few people that refuse to play games if a well known VA is in the game because they are just that tired of hearing their voice and it instantly brings them out of the game.

>>715063164
>We're keeping it real
Probably the funniest post here coming from a bunch of weebs who wish they were Japanese every single day and often LARP as AGP anime girls online.

>>715051701
>red humans bark in binary and machine screaming at each other
>space Egyptians are voiced like theater performers now
>we were denied the kino of Admech binary vs Oldcron chitters and static whispers

>>715051971
Why didn't Prozd have this problem.

>>715052010
>in your natural speaking voice
But why would that matter? It's called voice "acting", right? You can either do a voice the devs/director likes and you get hired, or you can't and that's it. Or the director has shit taste or whatever and you get something like Wuk Lamat, but the problem isn't whether the voice is real or not, it's that the acting is shit.
It's like not hiring Jon St. John to be Duke Nukem because the actual guy doesn't sound like Duke Nukem when he speaks normally. Like no shit, he's a voice actor. Doing voices is his job.

>>715054591
Some woman from twitter wormtongue her way to localization leas and inmediately started to hire americans for VAs instead of british

>>715054591
>SE hires a western localizer and diversity consultant
>she gets her tranny friend nepo hired in to voice the main character of the expansion
>we get performances like in the video
>expansion tanks

>>715065703
Doesn't ProZD just do skits?

>>715063164
I just don't understand why the shitty VAs think they are the center of the game development process instead of it being a product where the costumers matter the most.

>>715057432
americans could make great voice actors. unfortunately, the profession gets no respect. only failed actors who didn't make it to broadway and/or hollywood take up the mantle, so mediocrity abounds all around

>>715056938
The Anime voice is atrocious

>>715059141
Because some people are morally outraged over things that don't affect them directly, because they are moral people, unlike you. You're just a stupid pajeet who doesn't understand morality.

>>715051447 (OP)
so games will be good now, right?

>>715054598
Brown and black people exist anon. Also dubbed doesn't just mean english

>>715066670
>But why would that matter?
because it's a tranny. being honest is like trying to get a rabid dog to drink water.

>>715068721
That is, unfortunately, the truth.
In the Anglosphere, voice acting is the lowest caste of acting. It's what you do when you've failed everything else.
In Japan, it's the highest caste of entertainers. From voice acting, they can jump to literally anything else.
In the Spanish and Portuguese speaking world, voice acting is only done by real actors and the people who do it are highly recognized and respected. It's not like Japan but these people have prestiege.

In English, when there's a very high profile movie(like pixar or dreamworks), they hire hollywood actors. Because there's no A-List voice actors. There is only trash that voices everything, equally bad.

>>715053878
What narrator? The one who recaps between chapters?

>>715053817
xQc walked Adin Ross to interview Donald Trump in his car.

>>715062610
Because the brown mongrel hordes are incapable of empathy.

>>715052010
What's the problem tranny :)

>>715069825
>In Japan, it's the highest caste of entertainers.
pfffffffft. hahahaha. fame aside, most of them work 2 jobs. only a chosen few at the very top manage to get paid well enough to survive. in the rest of the cases, they have to become pop stars or TV personalities and build a following on the side and live off album sales and event tickets or face starvation

>>715069825
sad and true
the only prolific American VAs are either dead or old

>>715051447 (OP)
Won't matter in 10 years when all VA is AI anyway. Not that I want that.

>>715051601
Trans lifeline is a literal scam and this bitch killed the series with her character

>>715069825
To be fair, when a lot of games and films are hiring A-list american actors its because they are doing it to leech the fame of the individual. When kojimbo hires Norman Reedus to do voiceover for a highly detailed model of Norman Reedus in the hit game "Norman Reedus and the Fetus Deleteus", he isnt expecting Norman Reedus to 'act', he is expecting him to exist.

>>715054598
that's not what it said

it's:
>50% of all netflix users watch anime
>90% of the anime users watch it dubbed
so it's almost all of the anime watchers

>>715070741
>killed the series with her character
Blame Kamiya. If he didn't make such a character the voice actress wouldn't be needed.

>>715070532
Jap VAs can actually sing and perform and hold charismatic interviews and actually form fans around them and if you talk to some new VA they all have some older VA as idols in the same way you can see actors do. It has nothing to do with international releases but if you think about it, Japanese voice actors are the most famous Japanese internationally, if you watch anime you certainly know who Kugumiya Rie is for example or at least heard her. I only know about Italiano Castrato because of his infamy, in fact I never heard his voice ever kek.

>>715069825
I think any chance of a burger VA scene with any prestige died all the way back when animation became synonymous with low budget Hanna-Barbera kiddy fare.

>>715070928
normalfags are tainting the medium. japan should have gatekept the firthy gaijin by denying dubs

>>715070532
Anon thats the point. JP VAs hold side jobs as pop stars and TV hosts. EN VAs would systemically slaughter their entire family to reach those positions.

>>715069632
Even the most hood nigger alive watches anime subbed, it's actually white people who watch dubs because they don't know how to fucking read, or can't look at the anime girls and subtitles at the same time.

>>715071424
White peepoo taking more and more L's

>got AI protections, guaranteed rights to their own images and raises
so they won and got everything they asked for

>>715052253
>picrel
I can confirm it is very gay after jerking it off and slapping its ass about 50 times.

>>715072120
ok if you won then stop crying 24/7

>>715072120
Literally nothing stops companies from just hiring outside the guild in the global market. Also, as soon as AI gets good enough, you can bet all new IPs and titles will be using it over these overpriced cocksuckers.

>>715051447 (OP)
>voice actor stans, we WON
You mean replaced. Since the 2013 strike several game publisher completely avoid working with union voice actors, especially the japanese publishers who see dubs of their games as secondary expenses. Capcom in particular has gone full anti-union work.

>>715072472
>as soon as AI gets good enough
they'll replace shilling pajeets with entirely 100% automated LLM messages and you'll die in the streets alone gasping for air as your languishing body gives out

>>715051447 (OP)
Good luck stopping AI from just generating new voices better than the garbage American "voice actor" shit out.

>>715057309
Still completely normal and daily occurence in third world countries

>>715051447 (OP)
>>715072120
>everything they asked for
lol no. SAG wanted exclusive rights to MiHoYos VA stable but China didn't bend the knee. "AI protections" is SAG signing their talent away exclusively to Ethovox, an AI company they made a deal with, and not third party AI companies that they have no financial stake in. VAs are still fucked, but at least they''re being fucked "ethically". Rent is getting tough and a lot of their VAs were likely getting disgruntled doing side gigs for pennies. This is just SAG capitulating and painting it as a victory. They basically made their talent more expensive to hire without the guarantee that devs will be forced to hire them. UK/EU actors are about to find a lot of work.

>>715072472
I think random AI voices are a temporary thing. What I think will happen is that companies will make voicebanks, similar to what Vocaloids are. But only for voice acting. But think dozens or even hundreds of them.
So that when a voice becomes popular, they can have it returning for more games. And it also helps keeping it consistent between games and over a large game.

Didnt the SAGs and FAGs dump the voice acting and make fun of them like 3 or 4 years ago? I remember them saying voice acting isnt really acting.

>>715073517
even zundamon sounds unnatural. you won't be able to replace human talent

>>715073517
You only need a few full voices, a bank of 10s clips of thousands of voices is enough to do conversion on the base sets. The issue with text-speech ai right now is that it's exactly that. You need it trained on text that has inflection/pacing/emotion data mixed into it and then you'll have an extremely robust tool.

>>715051919
Scabs?

Unions usually work with fucking mafia types to intimidate harass and beat Scabs into submission.

Not saying they'll sic Tony soprano on them. But I BET you they will try to witch hunt and try to dig up any piece of dirt to get a scan fired and most definitely dox and run some discord coordinated character assassination campaign.

>>715073587
>even zundamon sounds unnatural. you won't be able to replace human talent
You know shit can improve, right? The tech doesn't just stay the same. https://youtu.be/zv_IoWIO5Ek?si=CtIpuL49Ww63OhS7

>>715073587
Zundamon is made for singing, not for prose. Same with every Vocaloid and similar stuff.
None of those were made with AI, either.

>>715053878
Why would there be a female narrator in a game about Yakuza?

>>715070532
>they need to hold jobs like pop stars and tv personalities
That proves that they are a much higher caste of entertainer in Japan.
Bruh, have you ever seen a western voice actor that was also a pop star or tv personality?

>>715052831
Video game studios don't control fiscal policy so why are they responsible for overcoming the effects of inflation for their contractors?

>>715069886
>>715074176
Yes. The few story scenes in the game that weren't voiced or animated and just sort of showcased as more of "recap" or some shit have (pic related) have been made audible via the use of a female narrator.

>>715051447 (OP)
I have no idea what SAG-AFTRA even is. 99% of the voice actors I listen to are Japanese, Korean or recorded their lines 20 years ago.

>>715074148
>british accent
>most wooden delivery of a neutered british accent imaginable

>>715070532
>pfffffffft. hahahaha.
How does anyone write like this and not want to kill themselves?

>>715056938
>>anime prefer natural speaking voices for a lot of lines
Nigga what?
Japan hate female natural voice so much even the fucking cashiers and office ladies are expected to use cutesy voices 24/7. The average female 7/11 staff member has de-facto more voice acting experience and practice than even top-of-the-line burger VA.

>>715052024
That's not why people disliked Yooka-Laylee.

>>715052679
He isn't just rejected for "voiceprint" logic.
He is rejected because he suck at both.
He is also rejected because his very being is a giant "do you really want a massively mentally ill employee" question.

>>715077007
ok sweaty would you prefer written onomatopoeia?
>*spits drink* *mocking laughter* voice actors in japan earn pittance
I hope that doesn't trigger fragile snowflakes like you

>>715069286
>moralfagging
This right here is why no one takes VAs seriously

>>715052831
>Meanwhile, indie ones
Were do you go to find good & cheap voice actors?
Making an RTS right now, realized a lot of great RTS actually had fucking great voice acting on their units, but budget is like three fiddy.

>>715078159
Fiverr. I'm not even kidding

>>715078159
Fiverr, Upwork, Voice123, Voices.com, castingcall.club

Haggle with them. Ask what they're willing to work for first I guess, then see if you can agree to a bit cheaper. They may agree out of virtue of actually wanting to get hired and have some actually recorded experience for what they're doing. Also they might be willing to work for cheaper if it's some kind of project they happen to be interested in, idk.

>>715051447 (OP)
why don't more studios use VA companies like that Bong one Fromsoft use? It's actual stage trained actors and they sound far better

>>715079962
Up-and-comers are and the Japanese/Euro studios seem to be shopping around as of late. I think SAG just has an incestuous relationship with established burger corpos like EA and Activision. Dollars to donuts they're paying friend prices and not the exorbitant rates SAG is actually demanding on paper.

>>715079962
>why don't more studios use VA companies like that Bong one Fromsoft use?
It’s probably going to change in the future and I look forward to American voice ”actors” seething on Twitter about Bong VAs stealing their job.

>>715051701
People actually REALLY hate that. If you’re going to do that make it something similar to undertale where it sounds like bleeps and bloops.

>>715059141
Because corpos will tank the quality of entire projects using and manage to take the slop that is mainstream gaming into super slop the likes we have never seen.

>>715079962
>It's actual stage trained actors and they sound far better
British actors tend to have a lot of experience with voice acting since radio dramas are a still a thing there. Hayley Atwell previously did work for Big Finish, who produces audio dramas based on Doctor Who.

>>715078304
>Big Man Tyrone becomes the narrator
Wouldn't be the worst choice all things considered.

>>715051447 (OP)
>union
Ew

>>715081734
>crashes the company with no survivors
>gives themselves a generous payday
>rinse and repeat
It just works

So what stops developers from just using AI voices and not working with the faggot voice "actor" union?

>>715062610
imagine giving a shit about a union that completely has walled a garden of only a small handful of actors who somehow are the only ones who find themselves in like 90% of video games.
The same actors, in all the same fucking animes, in all the same video games. You just can't fucking escape.
There was a time they'd just get anyone who'd have the voice they were looking for in the 2000s. Now SAG being a union basically keeps out upcoming actors because FUCK THEM thats why.

>>715086201
Why use AI voices at all?

>>715086589
>The same actors, in all the same fucking animes, in all the same video games. You just can't fucking escape.
None of those guys are union though. Many VAs get replaced every time they go union. No point in paying the extra dough when you can just hire someone way cheaper.

>>715068827
>>715057913
I genuinely don't respect people who say they "prefer" anime dubs because nine times out of ten it's done in the awful fucking "dub voice" and the remaining tenth it's still inferior to the sub. Maybe in the 1990's you'd have a point but that is not the time in which we are living.

>>715086597
Because you're a cheapass and the audience are pigs who will swallow that shit up. Think of the people who actually watch capeshit.

>>715086767
>No point in paying the extra dough when you can just hire someone way cheaper.
unions ask everyone to join to stop just that. scabs are despicable

>>715086807
>Because you're a cheapass and the audience are pigs who will swallow that shit up. Think of the people who actually watch capeshit.
If actual VAs are gonna be entitled and unprofessional as fuck, then I'll gladly use AI.

>>715086201
Hypothetical boycotts. In reality? Nothing. 99% of users don't care and if your game is good they'll play it anyway.

>>715056938
Cute of you to assume it's "theatrical vs natural acting" and not because the tranny hides his natural speaking voice.

>>715086597
So you dont have to deal with the voice actor union and their ridiculous demands

I appreciate how cunty voice actors showcase just how damaging and fucking awful social media is. They went from being a relatively respected field to being yet another sad sack of pathetic twitter creature cocksuckers. It doesn't help that politics and nepotism/cronyism is still at their core and has been for decades, but we're not supposed to call it out.

Good luck to any of you still living in a fantasy world where you can become the next troy baker or some shit. VA niggers gatekeep that shit harder than elite government pedos that gatekeep the epstein list. The move has always been to hire random theatre actors, they perform better and just want their paycheck and not to become micro-celebrities like most current VAs want. Fuck them all.

>>715086597
Same reason why you gut 75% of the company to replace them with AI. Money.

>>715086597
Because you want voice acting and AI voices are getting unrecognizable from humans? Why wouldn't you want to use AI voices? You're the one being weird there.

>>715066670
You know how some documents will ask for your signature AND your name in a clear font? It's like that.

>>715052298
Reminder that one of the main reasons universal healthcare died in the Clinton era is because unions campaigned against it because it'd remove a reason to join a union.

>>715054576
Yeah, as long as your game isn’t going for visual realism there’s not much reason to have voice acting. The advantage of abstraction.

>>715088040
It's also economically impossible
We make fun of Canada for having to wait 6 months for a critical surgery but the US would be way fucking worse

>>715051447 (OP)
All this stupid strike did was nuke all their credibility and good will. Also they lost all their Genshin contracts

>>715086201
AI voices sound like abysmal dogshit with 0 tone fluctuations.

>>715054758
God, Izaro is easily one of the most memorable parts of PoE. 10/10

>>715088769
Yes yes we have heard it before, just like how AI is too retarded to replace anyones job. And how it was too retarded to generate decent images.
Now its too retarded to make a good voice.

(now you will cope and claim it cant do office work, coding, or generate images but everyone knows you are wrong)

>>715051447 (OP)
I don't get it
If I make a videogame and I want it to be voiced, am I forced to hire these union-associated clowns? Can't I just hire some randoms that I think are sufficiently talented for the job and just be done?

>>715089407
You can hire whoever the fuck you want. If you want to hire someone in the union, you gotta respect union rules.

First this. Now SKG?
Gamers really rising up and getting everything want this year huh? Good for you lads.

>>715079962
Most European devs do

>>715088769
This was the case 2 years ago. 1 years ago we had AI voices near impossible to distinguish to real humans, though a little bit tone deaf. Nowadays we have perfect or near perfect AI voices.

Get on with the time, grandpa. The very issue is that AI voices work _too_ well, we wouldn't be discussing the subject if the tech wasn't mature.

>>715051447 (OP)
join our extortion racket or else

>>715077592
America used to do this shit. One of the good things about the women's lib movement is it mostly killed the "baby doll" voice that got popular with women after Marilyn Monroe. My aunt kept it and it was so fucking annoying having a conversation with her. Everything sounded insincere.

>>715065703
Toei and Konami got LK (and TeamFourStar) blacklisted by various companies.
t. someone in the know

>>715089407
You can hire who you want, but in the USA, SAG-AFTRA is basically a mafia protection racket for actors. Union members are only supposed to work on Union jobs, so unless you want to pay Union wages (usually higher), you can't hire Union members, unless they want to take the risk and work a non-Union job.
Outside of the USA nobody cares lmao.

>>715088539
It'd be cheaper than the shit we have under Obamacare (I've worked in a doctor's office. The overhead the insurance companies add is insane.) but rural communities would probably get screwed.

>>715051447 (OP)
I really hope this doesn't mean they're adding the EN voices to characters missing them in some slop I play.
EN dub VAs are 90% worthless and the few exceptions are often literal whos that actually tried.
And voice acting in general is the least important part of any game barring I guess VNs.

>>715051447 (OP)
>voice actor stans
Don't exist. No one gives a fuck about voice actors. I couldn't name a single voice actor and I've heard of troy baker.

>>715066670
because if you need emotional range and youre straining your voice by masking what you really sound like then you cant do the scenes asked of you, see sena bryers laughable performance at the end of dawntrail

>>715088539
>wait six months just for the doctor to recommend euthanasia

>>715092284
canucks are so goddamn lucky. I wish I could get euthanasia as an option

>>715051447 (OP)
>STILL resorting to bullying tactics
Absolutely rotten "industry"

>>715051447 (OP)
I nor many people here would give no fucks if the entire western voice acting industry collapsed. I cringe whenever i hear dub VA. there are like 2-3 "good" VAs in the entire industry but they've been present for so long & are so oversaturated It breaks immersion hearing their voice(johnny yong bosch for example)

>>715051701
Hollow Knight did that and everybody loved it

>>715079962
Square Enix uses a British VA company for the EN dub of FFXIV, and the game has had mostly good to amazing voicework for most of its run
Funnily enough, the last expansion was the first one to go for American VAs since it was supposed to be the "native american" expansion, and the voicework is mostly garbage. Also the main character of the expansion, a female furry catwoman, is voiced by a troon in the EN VA, and his voicework is just fucking awful. It has the usual tranny intonation. You know the one

>>715051447 (OP)
You say that, but they've all been permanently blackballed from Hoyo games.
Not sure this is a big win at all.

Reminder that 2B's voice actress was a scab YouTuber VA before Nier Automata

>>715094845
I'm generally pro union, but I don't give a fuck about VAs/actors. it's an entirely superfluous industry that is criminally overpaid & contributes nothing to society

>>715095716
I miss the days of 80s/90s anime dubs where they hired stage actors instead of "professional VAs"

>>715051447 (OP)
So will he speak out against everything Microsoft owns considering they fired thousands in order to increase investments in ai? Of course not, he's gonna promote them and their games like a lapdog either way lmao. Fucking virtue signalling mongoloids

Videogames shouldnt have voices most of the time, your mind voice feels more immersive than hearing some mediocre VA

>>715051447 (OP)
The what? Can't say I noticed.

test

>>715051447 (OP)
You lost your jobs.

>>715052024
Everyone loves Deltarune and most of the sound effects and voices are stock sounds

I assume the future is some jew owned company hires actors to donate their voice to them and all video game companies then have to license their ai voice tool to make cutting edge video games, and obviously its done outside of union regulations while all the companies wanting to make products using voice acting are bound by them.

>>715051447 (OP)
They didn't though, their union works like a ponzi scheme where everyone pays into it and only a few actually benefit from it. Also, they managed to burn everyone in the process of this shitfiesta, so more people will be hiring cheaper VAs overseas that don't come with all the drama and bullshit that American union VAs tend to bring.

>>715052010
What is he even talking abo-
Oh it's a tranny thing isn't it

Yeah now games will cost even more ya dumbasses

>>715052409
>>715053059
>tfw I watched Gianni becoming more woke and turning into a antifa psychopath as the years go by
If it wasn't for Ultrakill, most people would've never heard of this dude.

>>715097764
the games would be flat out better if companies were allowed to freely use the voice acting to fix stuff using AI tools, which is what the union wanted desperately to stop from happening
like how they were mad fortnite had a dark vader using a dead actors voice to dynamically produce voice acting for answers an llm made, they hate the tech flat out

>>715051860
Who the fuck cares about MALE lewd voice acting?

>>715051919
Nothing. Countless devs hire non-union actors. This has been a thing for ages. There's a reason games eventually stopped having Yuri Lowenthal, Steve Blum, Brian Bloom, and Nolan North in every single game like they were a package deal.

>>715097826
>ultrashit
The only reason anyone knows him is because he does/did bad impressions of the only John St. John role anyone cares about.

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>>715091086
Yeah this would be really annoying to hear in my native language but foreigners should definitely do it because it makes them sound a lot better when I can't understand what they're saying.

>>715054017
What accent is this even supposed to e

>>715062610
1. Most of the big names in the VA industry are left wing, /v/ mostly leans right
2. These VAs behave like faggots, endless demands, blacklisting non union VAs, and a general lack of professionalism (ie yongfag seething about Drumptf)
3. They treat the job like a high school clique, or like indians, they don't value actual talent, only if its someone they know or like on a personal level, it's basically a small community where only a few people get work and anyone trying to get in gets sabotaged
4. They support cancel culture
5. There's plenty of examples of good voice acting markets around the worl, like Latam or Japan, where new talents are valued and their personal thoughts and opinions are kept to themselves, this makes americans look terrible by comparison

>>715051447 (OP)
Face scanning technology was a mistake

>>715079962
cause amerifats are anti art and actually think "The Anime Voice" sounds good enough
The stark fucking difference between the usual Souls voice acting and the english Sekiro dub, which was handled by Activision, is proof enough

kinda crazy how the same 5 - 10 people basically get 90% of all VA gigs when there are literal thousands of no-name trained actors that would do the same VA for a fraction of the price and would be just as good as if not better than the unionized faggots who screech on twitter all day.

>>715077007
Not being an irony poisoned zoomer who's terrified of anything they could be called "cringe" for helps.

>>715091086
>I HATE when women sound feminine
ok buddy

>>715079962
Because only autistic retards like hearing bad british voices doing monotone line reads.

>>715054017
i genuinely didn't realize the character was meant to be female until i heard the other non-american VA's holy shit

based

>>715076505
it sounds EXACTLY like modern american VAs you faggot
it's not good but it's perfectly fine for replacing those retards

>>715104813
It's shit, AIJeet.

>>715107664
EXACTLY like modern americans VAs

>>715054598
nobody "watches" netflix, they just have it open in the background while doing other shit so it's obviously going to be dubbed

>>715051447 (OP)
Why do worker rights upset 4trancels so much?

>>715051447 (OP)
>lose the most lucrative and low effort jobs in the entire industry
>won
kek