Thread 715087369

>Either Sciel and Lune slept with him or kissed him on the cheek
>Monoco snuggled with him
>Esquie gave him hugs and headpats
>Alicia loved him so much that she refused on losing him by have him playing the Piano forever.
So he is a RPG harem protagonist?

And he still tried to genocide them all.

>>715087369 (OP)
I don't think the romance will be canon. And if it is it will only be with Sciel so the ending can stay more or less the same with she and him reaching out to one another in the end. The film will tell.

>>715087369 (OP)
>Gustave gets the girls in the end
>Verso plays the piano

>>715087369 (OP)
that's how his mom saw him, I guess

>>715089638
>romance
I don't think there was much romance involved. Just people comforting each other in a shitty situation.

>>715087753
oh my big chungus!
Its just like Palestine!!!

>>715087369 (OP)
Sciel slept with him because she's pretty laissez-faire and just felt like fucking him in the moment, but her entire motivation as a character is her deep devotion to her dead husband and unborn child. Lune was also tsundere for him but, I also interpreted that as her just wanted to get fucked for once while she still had the chance, moreso than any deep romance with Verso. I don't think either of them were really in love with Verso, but they were constantly in danger of dying and he's a handsome Frenchman in arms' reach so he was a pretty good option at the time

>>715089638
>the film will tell
did i miss something or is it speculation?

>>715087369 (OP)
>So he is a RPG harem protagonist?
Gustave and Verso are, in succession, the only men in the party surrounded by three babes. The other "males" are two non human goofy creatures.

>>715092831
crazy how the male characters are the only likeable ones

>has the best chemistry with his sister
interesting...

did Aline have sex with painted Renoir while in the canvas

Like I care, genocide the French

nah everyone hate verso

first thing that turned me off is after verso joins you, you talking to people in camp and you need to choose dialogue variants. and i literally cannot answer anything because i dunno who is this sad fucker, and why do i answer questions as him, this is some man with 70 years history that i don't know anything about

i think characters are not likable in this game, but they should not be likable, like in some evangelion

>>715095352
fucking kek

>>715095352
>hates that he can't grow old and die
>Maelle makes him old but won't let him die

>>715087369 (OP)
He's a high-functioning psychopath so he's good at charming people.

>>715092394
bringing up this shitskin scuffle should count as mutt's law

>>715087369 (OP)
Just another reason why he's the best "literally me" character in the last decade (at least) of video games.

>>715092394
Fucking lol

>>715092394
the canvas was promised to Alicia 3000 years ago

>>715087369 (OP)
>Lune slept with him or kissed him on the cheek
An Advantage.

>>715094336
>first thing that turned me off is after verso joins you, you talking to people in camp and you need to choose dialogue variants. and i literally cannot answer anything because i dunno who is this sad fucker, and why do i answer questions as him, this is some man with 70 years history that i don't know anything about
That's the point. The story is being delivered via an unreliable narrator.

>create a genuinely interesting and compelling setting and story
>use it as a bait and switch in favor of a second setting and story which are significantly less interesting and compelling than the first one

>>715101297
Xenoblade Chronicles did the same thing and everyone praised that shit

>>715101297
The Dessendre family fuckery is way more entertaining than PAINTRESS BAD

>>715101548
Lumiere is more than "paintress bad", anon. I was genuinely interested in hearing the details of how they're managing to keep the city alive, the societal effects of them being slowly genocided, the mishmash of their old technology with whatever scraps of magic they can get back from the continent, the tales of the previous expeditions, and the mood whiplash of what a colossal fuckup the start of the current expedition was.
They tease you with that setting, they throw in a few crumbs, and it gets almost immediately abandoned in favor of vague cryptic family drama that you have no reference point to even begin to understand until like 20 hours later.
The Dessendre fuckery isn't bad, but to me, it was less interesting than Lumiere. And the pacing of how it gets introduced was bad.

>>715101453
Xenoblade Chronicles didn't do that, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 did and plenty of people didn't like it. It certainly wasn't praised for the late game reveals.

Clair Obscur is literally just a french take on Xenoblade 3, even down to how the escapism world functions and even the uniforms the characters wear, but the reveals are done better in E33 and the ending(s) isn't as muddled.

>>715087369 (OP)
>Alicia loved him so much

Could've fooled me. Ungrateful bitch.

>>715101548
I just hate how everyone but Maelle and Verso got sidelined after Act 2. I felt like Verso should've at least had to confront Monoco and Esquie over his plan to kill them.

>>715103621
sad that the very last time any of the supporting cast is even acknowledged to exist is the paintress literally saying "who the fuck are you even supposed to be?"

Escapism bad

>>715100102
You got the analogy backwards retard

>>715105280
kill yourself nigger

>>715087369 (OP)
I just finished the game like 2 hours ago
HOLY FUCKING KINO I support france now

>>715105754
You chose the correct ending, right?

>>715087369 (OP)
>Mr 720p

>>715105536
Don't shoot the messenger

>>715101946
I was genuinely interested too, the mystery was cool as fuck and it leads you on well, and when you realize whats happening at the gommage it hits you like a truck. You can clearly see the difference in act 1 and 3 and that 1 clearly had a higher budget or just had better more crafted writing
The dessendre family was really cool but they should have went into more depth about it. Its not explicitly stated in the game but the people of Lumiere are pretty much real human beings except in a canvas. So going Verso ending you pretty much commit omnicide, they could have went deeper on that end but the writing falls off by that point

>>715105883
Of course

>>715101297
>>715101946
Just read Attack on Titan

>>715103621
>confront Monoco and Esquie
They are Verso's creations and his yesmen, they will always go along with Verso's bullshit

>>715106668
Monoco is literally introduced by him refusing to go along with Verso's bullshit

>>715101297
Nigger you weren't baited and switched, the whole setting is foundationally built on those reveals. It literally doesn't exist without the family. The essence of everything in the goddamn world is a subject they imaged while painting, how the fuck do you even hit reverse that?

>>715106668
Verso and Verso are not the same, they're Verso's yesmen not Verso's.

>>715092517
>just wanted to get fucked for once while she still had the chance
Nah it was deeper than that, the game makes it pretty clear they had a spark through music
Although both Sciel and Lune should have been more fleshed out

>>715087369 (OP)
Verso is a pretty cool guy. At first I was surprised this gray haired faggot with his sad piano theme was injected into the party. However unlike Gustave, he doesn't let Lune stop him from becoming an hero. Actually takes her with him, but not before banging her.

Verso might be one of the most handsome characters in a video game

>>715102034
Oh god it really is just Xenoblade 3.

>>715087369 (OP)
>spends literally the entire game lying to everyone about anythinhg he can
>gets all pissy when I don't give a shit that he doesn't want this life
Fuck Verso

>>715087369 (OP)
>Either Sciel and Lune slept with him or kissed him on the cheek
Never happened in my game, maybe you're a faggot.

>>715092787
There's already a film in development. It was announced even before the game

>>715103621
They are in on it.
They know about the paintress, they know about real Renoir, they know he wants to gommage everything, they know Verso wants to take her down, and they help him do so, for nearly a century.
Contrary to Lune they express zero butthurt in act III, quite the contrary. Far from confrontation, Monoco simply ask how he will convince the girls to get back on track. As for Esquie you max his relationship immediately in act III. In the final moments they agree with Verso.
By that point they've also been alive for centuries and are tired of it. Besides as the other anon said they are made from the desires of real verso, who wants to stop painting.

>>715107941
if they don't get Pattinson to play Gustave they are severely retarded

>>715108313
Who should play Verso?

>>715087369 (OP)
Astroturfed game.

Then why does Monoco care about resurrecting Noco if he's cool with Verso erasing everything?

>>715108557
>>715107979

>>715108557
his creator>his creator's painted version>his master

>>715107941
The story wouldn't work at all in a movie, plus it would be very lame. It should be something different, while still not spoiling the game which is near impossible unless they make it one of the failed expeditions.

>>715108678
How it wouldn't work? The game its a literal movie. And everyone already knows Alicia's ending will be the canon one. Unless they do some split ending bullshit where they let the viewer decide what happened

https://www.thegamer.com/clair-obscur-live-action-adaptation-sonic-movie-producers/

>>715108678
The only failed expeditions that could fill out a movie are 0 and 60, both would spoil too many major plot points

>>715108907
>Alicia's ending

I meant Verso's ending

>>715106206
They're already gone whatever you do, the best Alicia can is do replace them with weird broken puppets while she rots away for the rest of her life, which is an even worse outcome or at least certainly no better.
Sucks that neither of the two people who make it to the final room have any desire to actually carry out the mission objective but them's the breaks. Maelle might have done something constructive but Alicia is no longer Maelle.

verso gets away with so much life-ruining bullshit just because he's handsome

>>715108557
Because he still likes noco despite the fact it's copies and that he's seen many of them. He wants to see a noco one last time before the erasure.
During the last relationship rank with Maelle, Verso explain how different he thinks of death inflicted within the painted world and ending the painting itself. Monoco probably thinks the same.

>>715108313
I always see her in Sciel

act 1 was the only good act desu

>>715109040
Oh yeah, no doubt about it Verso's ending is better. My idea was that act 3 had more potential and could have been better written in a few ways honestly. Still though you can feel the game's budget lowering and panic/rush setting in behind the scenes throughout every act, at the end of the day i still liked it and it was kino

>>715109261
Esquie, Monoco and painted Alicia are on Verso's side. They also avoid disclosing any sensitive information. Retards "blame" Verso (who dindu nuffin) exclusively because of (White) man's burden while the other two are a teddy bear and a dog that can't do no wrong because mascot pupperinos and a woman.

>>715100102
Maybe if people were nicer to Alicia everywhere else she wouldn't need the canvas

>>715109860
he watched gustave die for the most retarded reason imaginable knowing full well he could stop renoir

>>715109860
ah yes, the burden of severely traumatizing his little sister by letting the protagonist die right in front of her for no discernible reason since they would have both been fully on board anyways

>>715110014
He simply didn't care. He doesn't care about anyone in the canvas besides his family and his pets. His main goal is erasing them all anyway.

Did they ever explain what the green rocks that cover all of lumiere come from? Is it a natural phenomenon or is it something Clea did or what?

>>715110272
Sorry, budget ran out

>>715107514
>tfw same facial structure as verso but brown eyes and BALD
Gangs of New York was distracting as shit to watch and so is any cut-scene with Verso and I hate it

>>715109493
>brown person with brown eyes and black hair
no thanks, nigger

>>715110457
Just get a wig bro

>>715110460
>Sciel
>White

Not with that bunda

>>715094336
>esl hates verso

>>715110547
>rethinking my life choices

>>715101297
>our world was fractured by the Big Bad™ and we're slowly being destroyed by the Big Bad™
>genuinely interesting and compelling setting and story

>>715110798
>escapism is... LE BAD! my son is dead btw
riveting

>>715110798
Unironically yes.
The world was interesting and the way in which it was being slowly destroyed was interesting.

>>715110014
>>715110086
He didn't know Gustave enough to assess he would agree with him. He had only seen him from afar. He only knew he was a strong attachement Maelle had to the painted world which was obviously against the plan. The fight on the cliffs was a golden occasion.
If Gustave had remained alive, little would change up to defeating the paintress, except Maelle would have his chroma to redraw him in act III and would be even less likely to get out of the painting (even if Gustave most likely would agree that's the best).

>>715110762
>fuck, she's just like maman

>>715110086
Maelle is not Verso's little sister and he says as much in the very cutscene you're referencing.

>>715093667
Incest is not Wincest

>>715087369 (OP)
>>Either Sciel and Lune slept with him or kissed him on the cheek
Not in my game
Verso deserves no social connections

>>715107602
They have some weirdly specific story elements in common such as "if you live long enough you get thanos snapped at a predetermined time, but if you are killed by enemies sooner you leave a petrified gray body instead".

desu i'd do everything to kill myself if i learned i was just a copy of some random woman's dead son and every thing about my life and family was some fake truman show bullshit some post-menopausal woman cooked up on a whim because she was depressed

Ehhh so. Are we gonna talk about how useless of a power is to just make worlds in paintings? Like what can you even do with it? Its not like you can at least spend too much time in them or you die. So the power is basically create worlds and life and then just kill them for lulz

>>715110272
It's paint, it's all over the canvas world, which was fractured in a struggle between two painters.

>>715108557
That's literally brought up when someone asks him why he wants to resurrect Noco right away instead of waiting until the fighting is over. He gives a coy and suggestive response about "you never know what the future brings and how much time we have left together". Pretty sure there were some side glances from Verso too, at least I sensed something was up.

>>715111654
You're talking about chroma, which the weird rocks definitely aren't

>>715087369 (OP)
Just finished the game.
>i dont want this life
Holy shit, i was not ready for this. Maelles whole ending is pure suffering kino

>>715111654
What's the difference between the green solidified goop and all the gold stuff?

>>715111617
>Create worlds where you can be anything and meet anyone, limited only by your own imagination
>Time moves slower
>useless
You're not the smartest retard are you?

>>715111825
What weird rocks are you talking about then, can you post a screenshot?

>>715111617
just paint a world where everyone is a scientist with the goal of answering some question and I've just realized I just described about 10 different books, all of which sucked ass

>>715111870
>the gold stuff
it's ART thing
>Kintsugi (金継ぎ), meaning "golden joinery", is the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery with lacquer and gold (or other precious metals). Rather than hiding the breaks, kintsugi emphasizes them, transforming imperfections into unique, beautiful features of the repaired piece. It's a symbolic art form that views breakage as part of an object's history, rather than something to be concealed

>>715111879
How does that helps you? A game developer can do the same thing minus the time slowing.

>>715112092
You're telling me the Dessendre family were weebs?

Verso ending pickers erased all these people permanently btw

>>715112182
And ill fucking do it again

>>715112182
Maelle ending pickers did, too.

>>715112069
But if Im correct how the world works, they can't just paint and make someone have a personality beyond what they can imagine. Meaning they can't just poof a scientist with an IQ of over 200 that can answer what they don't even know

>>715112160
the devs sure are lmao

>>715112265
Uh oh, a Verso fan is lying again

why didnt he just tell them verso is trying to kill them all lmao

>>715112274
The Paintress has no fucking idea who Lune or Sciel are despite the fact that she painted them. Clearly the painted creations have a mind of their own

>>715112395
He could have explained it to any of the expeditions he just non-chalantly killed.

>>715112182
The majority of them were gone by the time we got to make any choice, Renoir erased them.

>>715112405
But Aline understands every feeling they have. They're just normal people. Anyone can paint them.

>>715112462
Sciel and Lune were gommaged and Maelle restored them
>Inb4 Verso fan starts making utterly wild assumptions about how shit works
Why do Verso ending pickers want to pretend that there is no dilemma at the end? Is it cause they know they can't justify their choice knowing that there is? Is that why they need to hide behind lies?

>>715094336
You play as Verso in camp because it gives the most opportunities to learn about Verso himself through social links, as opposed to if you played as Maelle, you'd only learn about Verso when speaking with Verso.
Whether you like him or not is irrelevant; he's the central point of the story, and it's necessary to learn about his character. It makes perfect sense from a writing perspective.

>>715112395
He loved Verso and they couldn't meaningfully hurt each other until real Renoir got involved anyways.

>>715112653
Yeah, being immortal would suck

>start trying out different Maelle weapons
>equip the one that gives burn on crit and forget about it until the end of the game
>mfw I realize I accidentally killed Verso with burn damage, which he was vulnerable to

>>715087369 (OP)
>Hook up casually with one woman at most a playthrough
>"Is this harem!?"

No. I understand one may seem like a lot compared to /v/'s zero, but it's quite normal.

Maelle ending pickers
>My choice is between the Dessendre family, the ending of Verso's suffering and, on the other side of the balance, the fate of the canvas and everyone in it. This is the logical dilemma.

Verso ending copers
>EVERYONE IS DEAD EITHER WAYS. THE PAINTING IS GONNA EVENTUALLY GET ERASED EITHER WAY. NOTHING YOU CHOOSE MATTERS, OK?

Why are they like this?

>>715112737
>>715112721
nigga didn't even work

>>715112160
It would fit. Game is in semi-fantasy 1905. The French have been continuously weebs since the 1870s especially in the art world.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japonisme

>>715111617
You can bring your waifus to life. A whole harem if you want. You can use it as your going into games machine.
It would actually be the immersive experience that the metaverse and other VR scams pretended to be.

>>715087369 (OP)
Dude slept with everyone so they'd be easier to manipulate into tricking them to kill themselves.

>>715112972
Nooo they were all dead either ways!!!

>>715112838
How is that gonna help them beat the writers who apparently can do more cool shit like tricking a teenager to burn their house.

>>715101548
This.

Gothic melodrama >>> yet another post apocalyptic fantasy story

>>715113007
that's not that difficult to do

>>715113007
We don't know the full extent of the power of the painters. There's nothing in the game saying they can't do wacky shit outside a canvas as well. Just use anime logic.

>>715112405
>>715112274
The paintress didn't make any of the people in Lumiere. She made her fake family, but everyone else was born naturally due to the canvas simply having laws of nature based on the real world. They're all real humans, just born inside a different world. The "real" world in the game is probably just another painted(or "written"?) world anyway.

>>715112742
the funniest weapon is Verso's Nosaram, this weapon with energizing shots and energy master just lets you shoot like a machine gun like 20 times per turn

>>715113082
I assume she at least painted the original people, but then, yeah, they can just have kids.

>>715112742
Both Verso and Alicia are weak to fire and faced in solo duels by Maelle who relies a lot on burn damage. It's mordbidly funny. Especially when Maelle was literally the one who caused the original fire too.

>>715107514
There are many candidates above him on that list, starting with Morgana from Persona 5.

>>715113082
No, as far as I understand she did paint some of them. That's the whole reason she's protecting them from Renoir and why at the moment of confrontation she calls the party "Clea's creations".

>>715112556
Alicia had their freshly gommaged chroma and knew them well.
>she could totally bring back everyone else too
You're free to feel that way.

>>715113169
No she didn't - it was Verso and Clea's painting remember, so they would have made the original people. But by the time Aline entered, Verso's soul was sustaining the world unconsciously and had been for hundreds of years in canvas time.

>>715112817
I just wish that the Maelle ending had some semblance of a hopeful outcome for Maelle herself. I hate that giving her any hope of not wasting away in the canvas has to automatically equate to killing everyone in the canvas.

>>715113082
>The paintress didn't make any of the people in Lumiere.
She certainly painted the first generation of Lumierens, they came from somewhere.

>>715113095
For me, it’s Chevalram. Verso can easily solo everything in the game with it, and its automatic S rank ability is too good.

>>715113302
I thought there were no humans in the canvas until Aline painted them

>>715113249
She calls the party Clea's creations because Clea painted the Nevrons. Basically she took one good look at Lune and called her the N word with hard R

>>715113252
Maelle didn't know Sciel's suicide backstory. And Aline didn't know every single thing Painted Verso knew.

>B-B-B-B-BUT IT'S DIFFERENT, THE CHROMA WAS FRESHLY GOMMAGED!!!
You are making a headcanon up explicitly so that there is no dilemma at the end of the game. This is the only way you can justify your choice. You cannot deal with what the game is telling you at face value.

>>715113340
>I just wish that the Maelle ending had some semblance of a hopeful outcome for Maelle herself.
Hard to do that when she's dead and replaced by Alicia.

>>715112395
At some point he says he tried to explain things to some early expeditions and it didn't work out so he just started killing them on sight to at least get their chroma back to Aline instead of it being gathered by nevrons who are the chroma jannies of Clea.

>>715113370
MAXIMUM DAMAGE
TOO SLOW
PHANTOM STARS

>>715113436
You can literally see her pause before leaving Lumiere to gather their specific chroma which she used to bring them back

>>715113302
>it was Verso and Clea's painting remember, so they would have made the original people.
Nope, there was no Lumiere and were no Lumierens until after Aline entered the canvas. Verso painted the world, Esquie, monoco, the Gestrals, and the Grandis. Clea painted the nevrons. Renoir painted the axons and the nevrons on their islands.

>>715113436
>Maelle didn't know Sciel's suicide backstory.
Alicia, and yeah, I'm not disputing she successfully brought Sciel back. If you think she can as easily bring back a bunch of strangers she had no connection with, when the whole reason she was able to bring back Sciel and Lune was by understanding their essence, then you're free to feel that way.

>>715113483
>tfw Clea is weak against Light
>90% of Verso’s skills are light element based

I literally broke her in a single turn.

>>715113365
Yeah, from Verso and Clea, a very long time before Aline entered. Presumably there had been countless generations already.

>>715113543
Yeah, so? There is nothing saying that the chroma of the people that got gommaged years ago isn't there as well. You're making this headcanon up, and again, you're making it so that there is no dilemma at the end.
The game presents it as Verso wanting to erase Lumiere and the canvas and Maelle as wanting to preserve them. You want to try to headcanon it so that there is no actual choice here. Do you not realize how silly this is?

>>715113707
>Yeah, from Verso and Clea, a very long time before Aline entered.
Proofs?

>>715113640
>If you think she can as easily bring back a bunch of strangers she had no connection with, when the whole reason she was able to bring back Sciel and Lune was by understanding their essence
She was able to bring back Pierre. How much of a connection could she have with him?

Again, anon, we can keep arguing specifics, but at the end of each of these posts, I'll just keep reminding you that I'm actually taking the game at face value that there is a dilemma in the game as to which choice you pick, and you, on the other hand, are trying to argue that there is no dilemma, and that one of the choices is a fake choice. Just remember that.

>>715113640
>>715113252
>>715113441
This is autism and low IQ.

>>715113714
so you're saying that, actually, this scene that goes against your headcanon has no significance and was added for no reason and nobody should read into it
convenient!

>>715112182
>he thinks alicia could restore everyone as they were
Nah

>>715113870
Verso liars cannot accept that they killed people. It's cringe.

>>715113872
Anon, the scene shows Maelle restoring people. You're the one trying to go "W-W-W-WELL ACKSHUALLY, SHE CAN ONLY RESTORE THOSE... AND PIERRE... AND GUSTAVE... AND THE APPRENTICES... AND... NO ONE ELSE! EVERYONE ELSE THAT WASN'T SHOWN IN VIVID DETAIL ON THE EPILOGUE WAS RESTORED"

>>715113714
What the game tells us is that you need to understand the truth of who someone is to bring them back even with their chroma. You can headcanon whatever else you want.

>>715114073
If she brought back Pierre, how can she not keep bringing people back through connections between each person?

>>715103723
>your friends are right and it changes nothing
renoir trying to talk some sense into the little shit

"endings" piss me off so much because they're literally the only thing people care about when discussing the game

>>715114216
Verso ending pickers think that the only thing that is real from Act 1 and 2 is Maelle, the curator and the paintress, so...

>>715114216
doesn't help than in E33's case 90% of the entire story is revealed in the final hour

Again, just a reminder that the retard that is arguing that Maelle cannot bring people back is trying to pretend that one of the choices is fake. This is literally the only way he can justify the Verso ending. By pretending that the other one isn't real.

>Verso ending forces you to confront reality
>Maelle ending lets you continue to rot in fantasy escapism
Shocking which one this board prefers

>>715114354
and yet it's only 2% of the content

>>715114404
You got gagged by >>715114132

>>715114442
"Confront reality" means killing everyone in >>715112182

>>715114521
>killing everyone
They are not real people

>>715114442
>this board
it's literally just one guy samefagging

>>715114629
>Everyone in the prologue? They have no sentience or feelings, actually. Except Maelle. She's the only real person there.
This is what Verso pickers actually believe.

>>715114403
Maelle's ending will just repeat the same cycle of either Renoir or someone else going into the canvas to get her out by erasing everything or her just dying and Renoir erasing the canvas anyway. You can already see Maelle playing dollhouse with the Lumierans in her ending obviously she doesn't give a shit if they are real or not

>>715114735
If I'm a Lumerian, that is still much preferable to me.
>Y-y-you will die eventually
Yeah, no shit. I'm not immortal.

>>715114697
Speaking of Maelle in her ending, she's clearly unhappy there, too. As if you needed any more indications that it's clearly supposed to be the bad ending.

>>715114697
>this entire post
Yes, you fucking mongoloid

>>715114859
I don't care about Maelle lol
You can convince me that Maelle and Verso are both miserable and I won't care. Maelle's ending is the correct one because it preserves the Lumiere lives.

>>715114521
They are already dead, at least all the inhabitants of Lumiere (the others are creations of Verso that go along with his ending).
At most you can say that with the destruction of the painting they can't be brought back, but there is a big difference between killing someone and not bringing them back.
Besides Maelle's ability to bring back people or even make new one is limited because of >>715114073

>>715114976
>Besides Maelle's ability to bring back people or even make new one is limited
If she brought back Pierre, how can she not keep bringing people back through connections between each person? It's not like she was great acquaintances with Pierre.

And again, while you come up with some bullshit excuse to explain this way, just remember once again that you are trying to hand-wave the dilemma the game presents you away.

>>715113714
When they go to form the expedition of puppets she explicitly states that old chroma is nowhere near as good and that's why they don't come out as actual people
She calls it stale

>>715112182
They all die in maelle's ending too just later. At least with Verso's ending Maelle has the chance to remake these people in a new canvas. In Maelle's ending when the canvas gets burned after she dies all those people are just gone forever
>but doesn't the prospect of her remaking those people in a new canvas cheapen the dilemma presented?
Kinda. They obviously wouldn't be the same people but they're not the same people anyways post gommage. It's all fucked. That's the whole point of the game though. Everything is fucked.
I wish my favorite jarpig had this battlesystem and graphical fidelity. fantastic fucking game.

>>715112094
>minus the time slowing
exactly, you get extra years to your life
kinda useful, no?

>>715115090
I think that has to do with the fact that they didn't get gommaged and got stuck in those statue figures, but you know what? Let's assume you're correct.
Even if she can only bring back people that got gommaged as far back as Pierre, that's still the better option.

>>715115096
>They all die in maelle's ending too just later
We're all gonna die eventually.
>At least with Verso's ending Maelle has the chance to remake these people in a new canvas
That's creating new life. It's basically creating new copies of people. It's like when Aline created Painted Verso. That's a new lifeform.

>>715115078
>If she brought back Pierre
She doesn't "bring back" anyone at any point in time. She is not a capital G God. She is a lowercase g god. Those are replicas.

>B-BUT YOU KILLED ALL THOSE PEOPLE!!
oh yeah? watch this *paints TWO new canvases*

>>715096496
>>Maelle makes him old but won't let him die
he'll die eventually because the painting can't sustain itself once maelle dies, @ least that's how i understand it. the workings of canvases aren't very well explained.

>>715115332
Proven wrong by Sciel, fortunately. Maelle brought her back and she had her full memories that were outside of Maelle's purview.

If Alicia really did recreate everyone perfectly and doesn't fuck with anyone who isn't Verso, do you think they'd all be happy knowing that Maelle is effectively a god? Or that their world is a painting and will be destroyed at a point coinciding with whenever she dies or gets removed?

>>715115418
Yes.
I'm happy knowing that I get to live for hopefully many decades even if I have to die eventually. Living now is better than not living now.

>>715115078
>you are trying to hand-wave the dilemma the game presents you away.
Any dilemma is not where you are pretending it is.
Just to be clear, are you denying that the people of Lumiere are dead in act III?
Perhaps had Renoir not yet gommed them you could make your case, but he did at the end of act II.

>>715115506
And it wouldn't bother you that some emotional child now has the potential to do literally anything to you?

>>715115581
Renoir gommed Lune and Sciel too and Maelle brought them back.
We see that Pierre is back in her ending's epilogue.
Chroma gets dispersed with the gommage and Maelle just has to gather it back.

>>715087753
He was a good friend

>>715115843
The image that destroyed Versotards

>>715115280
Pierre wasn't gommaged, he died in an accident. It's why Sciel was so distraught, she had accepted only having so many years with him and then didn't even get that. Even so, after the gommage a person's chroma goes on to be recycled. The whole thing with Renoir and Aline is a battle for control of the chroma in the canvas.

>>715115928
The apprentice kid was gommaged and he's back. Gustave's sister is there with him happily and she got gommaged (While Gustave himself wasn't gommaged)

>>715089836
>For those who come after!
>Verso comes
>"Alright bro enjoy my sloppy seconds."

>>715115418
Sciel and Lune seem pretty chill about it. The rest of Lumiere doesn't need to know the full story.

>>715092517
>I don't think either of them were really in love with Verso
Not to be semantic, sure they weren't in love, but it wasn't purely carnal either. Sciel has that final romance scene in which she acknowledges, "We did have something though didn't we?"

>>715115687
Anon, let's cross that bridge when we get there, alright? If she starts creating hellish camps that are just decapitating us over and over again, we can curse our fate. Right now she saved us from getting erased and is the one maintaining our way of life.

>>715094336
>i literally cannot answer anything because i dunno who is this sad fucker
Both options are lies lmao

>>715103723
>the very last time any of the supporting cast is even acknowledged to exist is the paintress literally saying "who the fuck are you even supposed to be?"
Go to camp in act 3.

>>715106767
>Monoco is literally introduced by him refusing to go along with Verso's bullshit
And then Verso easily convinces him to, because his sole existence is as a playmate for Verso.

>>715101297
>create a genuinely interesting and compelling setting and story
>use it as a bait and switch
None of the stories got switched out. Every character drama manages to the end of the story. Even Sciel and Lune get their moments in the finale. The setting was the expedition, not the city of Lumiere. That would be like Battlestar Galactica getting bogged down in the eight colonies. The story is about Expedition 33, and this plotline follows all the way to the finales.

>>715108557
>why does Monoco care about resurrecting Noco if he's cool with Verso erasing everything?
Why does Verso care about pAlicia is he's going to erase everything? Do you really need this answered? He's not a psychopath, he's just committed to a goal.

>>715109261
When he promised Sciel that he'll do everything in his power to bring back her husband, I fell for it. He's just so charming lmao.

>>715116001
The apprentice kid is only back in a scene showing that Maelle has lost herself in the canvas, considering that Gustave is also back which she would have dobe earlier if she could it isn't a leap to say those are likely new versions that she painted rather than actually revived

>>715110272
>Did they ever explain what the green rocks that cover all of lumiere come from?
You get the ability to crack them in act 3. They're from the fracturing. They look like mixed paint.

>>715116926
>which she would have dobe earlier if she could
No, she explicitly needed Renoir's chroma to do it cause he was hogging it all. This is explained at the start of Act 3.

>>715115876
Retard

>>715112972
>Verso walks on screen with a giant billboard framed behind him reading "DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN, HE WILL BETRAY THE PARTY"
>The game pauses and a popup window explains that Verso will betray the party
>Knock at my door. Sandfall has sent a dev to my house to explain that Verso is lying about a lot of thigns and he'll betray the Expedition

>Verso is the only Expeditioner who stays true to the cause and sees it through to the end
>He accomplishes this by betraying everyone on an individual level
>I fell for almost every lie he told even when I knew better
Good thing I'm not a woman lmoa

maelle won

did Aline paint her dead son's penis

>>715115843
>and a piano
a marvelous piano i should add. if i had to play this until the end of my days while also sleeping around with my 2 exotic mystery meat wives & smoking hot tight 16y.o sister, i would consider it a scam & spit on you, because nothing this good could possibly ever be true.

>>715087753
Based
Fuck p*inted people

why did verso want to die?

>>715118084
your mom lmao

>>715119092
My mom is alive unlike that sad faggot

>>715118084
Literally everyone for 67 years knew that he was a dickhead and told him so

Who is more handsome, Gustavo or Verso?

>>715119661
>stem autismo
>artsy smoothtalker
As is well known girls flock to the robotics club while ignoring the musicians along the way. Gustave has 10/10 face but the moment they start talking and emoting Verso just has more rizz.

>>715107941
>>715108678
They can't bring the combat to a movie without making it look retarded. And there are too many bosses integral to the story to skip them.
Also, how do you incorporate the curator? You can't really upgrade weapons (or lumina) in movies.

>>715113302
Verso didn't paint any humans. The original inhabitants of the canvas were gestrals, grandis, and whatever the fuck Esquie and Francois are. That's why there's a lost gestral city and there's a fuckhueg queue at the sacred river. Most of them were killed in the fracture.

>>715111617
>what would you even do with a real going into games machine

No but seriously why is being alive in a world were you don't work and can fuck anybody you want at all times bad? Verso can literally just do want every he wants and he's still a complaining fag

>>715115418
The Lumierians start their lives knowing the exact time they will die. Having Maelle remove that number and allow them to thrive for at least another century would be a godsend.

>>715106194
I will if they're palestinian.

>>715109493
Nah, too non-White.