Thread 715234053

The entire Dungeons & Dragons franchice - D&D video games included - is now led by Dan Ayoub, a former 343 Industries executive and studio leader.
Hasbro suits really looked at the absolute state of Halo and considered it a good look in his resume.

https://archive.is/UKyWG

I mean D&D has been shit starting with 4th edition so it genuinely would get any worse. Murdering the franchise would be a mercy killing at this point.

>>715234245
>would
couldn't*

Dungeons and Dragons has been dogshit for over 20 years, and it only gets worse with time.

>Dungeons and Dragons has announced that it's shifting to a franchise model, with Hasbro's former senior VP of digital games Dan Ayoub leading the charge as the new head of D&D. Ayoub shared the news in a LinkedIn post on July 9, saying: "We shifted our structure internally and D&D moved to a full franchise model, meaning everything: books, video games, film, and TV - everything touching the franchise lives under one roof."
Someone translate this exec speak to English for me

>>715234313
>please anticipate the consumption of our next products

FAGGOT
MAY
RUN UP IN A DUNGEON

>>715234313
D&D is now officially slop.
Before it was unofficially slop.

>>715234313
You'll get Drizzt, Minsc and Vecna in Fortnite.

>>715234313
It means that they will try everything except making good games and will be all out of ideas before 2030.

At least it might lead to them giving the ip to studios for new games?
They'll probably try and push some live service shit though. I just want more crpgs.

>>715234053 (OP)
>D&D movies, videogames, books...

Uh... tabletop?

>>715234245
>I mean D&D has been shit starting with 3rd edition

Fixed that for you.

>>715234245
>I mean D&D has been shit starting with 2nd edition
ftfy

>>715235625
Silly anon, Dungeons & Dragons is a lifestyle brand now!

>>715235808
2nd edition is the one actually good D&D.

>>715234245
Fully agree. It's at rock bottom, so a change in leadership can only potentially improve things.

>walk into medieval tavern
>black man (high-elf)
>3 cursed demonic entities mingling with everyone and nobody cares
>rainbow flag behind the bar
>half the woman are on their magic speaking device, browsing the magi-sphere
>gnome on a romanic date with his orc boyfriend
> asian (drow elf) talking about her favorite cookies recipe
>only heterosexual couple is black man (human) and white woman (high-elf)

>>715234053 (OP)
Both Halo and D&D are dogwater so at least it fits.

>>715235892
No it's not. This is.

>>715235670
>>715235808
But he's right and you're just retarded contrarians

>>715236341
Third Edition completely changed the game from a roleplaying game into a MUH BUILD lego character metagame. Feats were a mistake. Removing class/race restrictions were a mistake.

>>715236116
>the tabaxi futanari and the topless dragonborn girl deepthroating the minotaur in the corner of the tavern go unoticed
the chud's vision is based on minorities

Basic (1981) > 1st Edition > OD&D > BECMI > 2nd Edition > 5th Edition (2014) > 3rd Edition > 4th Edition >>>>>>>>>> Nu-5th Edition

>>715234053 (OP)
>343
didn't they not make a single good Halo game, despite being a dedicated Halo studio?

>>715234053 (OP)
hasbro has the weird idea that the future of D&D and MTG are little 8 year old children and nothing else. they want open minded brave stories in colorful diverse world with teen heroes killing white evil men and nothing else.

>>715235808
>>715235670
You are trying too hard to meme at this point.There should be more to your personalitty than being "the fat that always hate everything"

Might as well squeeze the rest of it's blood from it while they can I guess, D&D has been bleeding out heavily for a bit now.

>>715236871
There is no memeing. If you knew anything about old-school D&D or the OSR, you would know 3rd Edition is where D&D died.

>>715236794
>2030: D&D 7th edition no longer profitable, studies say, as hasbro sells off D&D and half a dozen IPs for change money in a back alley
>2030: MTG cross overs with Kellog's

>>715237010
Toucan Sam 5 colour flyer

>>715234313
Do you remember when 40k was a good war game with cult classic video games such as Dawn of War and Chaos Gate, and then transformed into whoring out the franchise shamelessly to get the label on as many sloppy games and products as possible?

That's what he said. He's saying they streamlined the process of whoring the franchise out. They now have teams that work full time to tie everything together.

>>715236437
Nah, you're just incapable. You see the ability to take options to help shape your character as restrictive because you only play things strictly. The reality is that it opens up the game because it helps people apply their faggiest flavors to their character in a way that can be measured.
>Removing class/race restrictions were a mistake
This is true but 3e revolves around prestige structures that are still often race-limited. But I question why you said this when, in the same breath, you stated that you hated buildfaggotry. I personally believe more restrictions (while maintaining significant options) is the way to go, but your statements are contradictory, which makes me believe that your opinion came from some mishmash of internet personalities. I otherwise cannot fathom why someone would both desire combinations like Dwarf magician to be impossible while loathing that Dwarf wizards are worse choices in many scenarios than Elf wizards.

A match made in hell!

>>715234053 (OP)
It's crazy that being an American C-level executive is the same as being a high-level Soviet official at this point. No matter how badly you fuck things up you just keep getting reassigned to another lucrative gig because firing anyone that's part of the sham would structurally compromise the system at this point.

>>715234313
They're about to make the same mistake that killed TSR while putting out less.
I really don't see what Hasbro sees in this IP. They've been trying for nearly 2 decades and they've come out empty handed every time.

>>715237239
>I otherwise cannot fathom why someone would both desire combinations like Dwarf magician to be impossible while loathing that Dwarf wizards are worse choices in many scenarios than Elf wizards
Because dwarves have natural resistance to magic. That's been the lore for dwarves in every TSR D&D setting. It doesn't make sense for dwarves to be magic-users. That flavor makes them unique.

>>715237375
Competence and merits only matter when you are a regular employee. Once you get high enough, networking becomes the only relevant skill for career advancement.

>>715234967
Vecna is already in Dead by Daylight, Fortnite isn't any more of a stretch than that

>>715236076
You have no idea what rock bottom truly is.

>>715237239
>remember when 40k was a good war game with cult classic video games such as Dawn of War and Chaos Gate
No, Chaos Gate is not a classic of any kind. Dawn of War was the only major IP in 40k and now there's also Rogue Trader I guess. So not much has changed

>>715234053 (OP)
jewish face
jewish name

>>715236286
I don't understand why people were mad about the Men being STRonger than women. Just give women more DEXterity.

>>715238152
>Chaos Gate is not a classic of any kind
You sound like a zoomer. Chaos Gate and Final Liberation are classics when it comes to 40k vidya. As is the original MSDOS Space Hulk.

>>715238220
*Arab

>>715238260
But women are physically less dexterous than men IRL too.

>>715236076
It can get worse
That combat wheelchair shit is an unofficial, 3rd party splat
It can be made official

>>715238514
They already put it in the D&D idle game back when that stupidity popped up. So they are 100% on board with it.

>>715238514
They didn't put the combat wheelchair in the newest 5th edition revision?

>>715238559
>>715238578
Not that I've heard of, the one that everyone posts is unofficial. If they made it official it completely slipped by me and I can't find any information about it

>>715238514
>be crippled druid
>have the ability to magically shapeshift into an eagle
>my eagle is still crippled

So is my spirit also a crip?

D&D is such a huge all encompassing thing yet has produced nothing of value. Impressive in its own right.

>>715238361
I know, but looking on the internet, women actually have more endurance. So I guess it would translate with more CONstitution.
But it just doesn't stick to the "fictional land" idea of men being stronger and women being graceful, so DEX bonus it is.

>>715236941
>more nonsense

>>715238792
The stupid thing is they actually had a pretty decent thing going for a while back when geek is chic originally started blowing up. And then again back when Stranger Things and various YT channels starting bringing in more normies. But it wasn't Marvel money so Hasbro wasn't happy, and WotC can't manage IPs well to begin with. So of course it has been run into the ground with progressively worse and worse release and terrible business ideas. The IP could have been more than what it is now but would have had to been managed by a competent company that wasn't super fixated on massive profits over steady profits.

>>715238657

If your body has a basic defect it means your soul is ontologically evil and deformed, and you should NEVER forget this as long as you live.

>>715234053 (OP)
wonder what theyll do with DDO

>>715238836
>but looking on the internet, women actually have more endurance. So I guess it would translate with more CONstitution
Then why are all the best marathon runners men? The only ability score I could see women having an edge at over men is Charisma. At least in the way it's used in D&D, which gives you access to more hirelings and better reaction rolls. Women are really good at acquiring simps.

>>715234053 (OP)
I'm tired bros...

>>715234313
It means they're fully shifting over to the Warhammer model of whoring the franchise name out to anyone who'll pay a licensing fee to slap the D&D brand label on the product. Basically I think it means Hasbro is gonna do even LESS real work and just rely on suckering indies to pay a license fee. The problem therein is even 25 years ago devs began to realize they don't need to pay a D&D license when they can just make their own knockoff D&D (Dragon Age, Pillars of Eternity, many such examples)

>>715238994

so everyone's soul is evil and deformed at the moment of death?

Pathfinder 1e chads, where we at?

>>715238514
So that wheelchair stays no matter what? If I polymorph into a bird or other flying creature like >>715238657 then is it gonna be some kind of wood and canvas wing contraption powered by gears? If I polymorph into a beholder then is it going to put a wooden box around me while I float like normal, or am I gonna be on a stand touching the ground like the world's weirdest road sign?

>>715239154
>>>/lgbt/

>>715239056
Dunno, I just looked up for five seconds.

>>715234245
>suicide the franchise with no survivors
>fail up into another company
>rinse and repeat
Pretty much the walking personification of a locust horde. Just fucking shit up wherever they go on behalf of a divine entity laughing at the carnage that unfolds.

>>715239182
>can resurrect the dead from finger
>can regrow chopped off limbs
>can summon the gods wrath upon jews
>can't heal some wonky nerve making you unable to walk
what's the point of clerics?

>>715239496
Because these weirdos (talking about cultural marxist identitarians, not disable people) see disability as an identity in itself. They want to celebrated the disabled and want them to be PROUD of their disability. Fun fact: July is disability pride month, and this is their flag.

>>715239008
probs kill it

>>715235670
third edition is the best version though

>Ayoub
Does this mean casters will have to pray toward the Kabba 5 times a day to recover spell slots? Will camels replace horses?

Why couldn't it have been an Israeli instead?

>>715239381
thank fuck america is collapsing and that the vengeful angry mobs might incidentally guillotine some of these vermin in the next 5-15 years

>>715238260
1: you're thinking of AD&D 1e. That pic is Moldvay Basic (the B in B/X)
2: 1e having sexed bonuses is also a false meme. In actuality it had race and sex-based upper limits, but no actual bonus to your stats based on sex
3: He's correct; B/X is the best D&D, BECMI an acceptable alternative (I do appreciate the racial variant classes like the dwarven cleric or halfling druid)

>>715239778
>constant new flags, a tool invented by humans to claim land and mark territory
why are wypipo like this? is this where the spirit of imperialism went once there was no more land to take?

>>715234313
>everything: books, video games, film, and TV - everything touching the franchise lives under one roof
So they're pulling "Disney axes SW EU to make it more in line with the sequels"?

>>715234053 (OP)
Oh, so they want it dead.

>>715239496
Reminder that a scroll of regeneration is literally cheaper (and generally easier to find) than a fucking magical gizmo wheelchair that doesnt even come with rocket launchers for its price
You're literally choosing to be a special snowflake

Why is everything modern that is tabletop related so fucking gay?
>dnd
>wod
>warhammer
>pathfinder

Is there a single tabletop rpg that didn't fall vitcim of commiefornian invasion and remained true to its core?

>>715234053 (OP)
>D&D will finally die again.
Hopefully this means we'll get a repeat of the 90s and a bunch of other RPG systems will finally get attention.

It's just unfortunate its happening at a time when Powered By The Apocalypse is spreading like crack through indie rpgs.

>>715241630
FATAL

>>715241630
yep, that's how you become an incel. She sucks everyone's dicks but yours, and then you have to call a principal or dean.

>>715241630
Free League's games funnily enough, despite them being Swedes. The One Ring 2E is a 2022 licensed game set in Middle-Earth with absolute good and evil morality and not a single non-white character.

why is the local namefag talking about sucking dicks?

>>715234313
They meant merchandising but said franchising which implies part ownership.
Like mcdonalds is a franchise; you essentially run the restaurant yourself and pay a fraction of income to mcdonalds corporate for access to their support in the form of corporate office support and access to their food catalogue.

So this implies that you'll be able to make dnd products if you pay a fraction of earnings to hasbro for... their corporate support. Which isn't worth shit because it's a fail upwards dogshit company that can't monetize one of the most recognizable brands in the world.

This is essentially what they wanted to do with ogl but in poverty mode.

>>715238514
>Your very SOUL is crippled
>YOU are the disability
Ultra kek
How the fuck to libruls keep coming up with the cruelest shit whiles trying to do the exact opposite?

>>715238985
>that wasn't super fixated on massive profits over steady profits.
That's pretty antisemitic, anon

>>715242232
Lib worldview is fundamentally schizophrenic and retarded, because on one hand is the lib desire to eradicate all boundaries and constraints in order to pursue a perfect state of freedom, and on the other hand is the intersectional helicopter dick trying to eradicate all boundaries and constraints posed by rational thinking and society.

What you're looking at is the feverish invention a lib who must represent cripples as a revolutionary vanguard against the oppression of the heteronormative healthist ableist social order. The capacity in this case for the cripwolf to fix legs is present, but without cripwolfs consent it can't be forcibly applied. That would erase cripwolfs revolutionary identity and accidentally bolster a biologically essentialist worldview that isn't compatible with liberal thinking, since bioessentialism asserts that the forces of nature have control rather than the individual over themselves.

It's phenomenal stuff to behold once you're sufficiently learned on the topic. It's like watching houdini trying to escape from a straight jacket underwater and drowning 100 times over.

>>715243289
You're digging way too much into this. It's just fetishizing of disabled and "oppressed" and a competition to stand out in this fetishizing because the more obsessed you are with them the gooder boy you are.
However it's also worth mentiong that many among disabled wear their disability as identinty. Deafs are notorious for vilifying those of theirs who get hearing treatments.

>>715238578
It's not in there, but Pathfinder does have an official combat wheelchair added in an expansion. It's not an overpowered tank like the DnD one and practically cosmetic, but it's still too good for realism.
You can put spider legs on it and be this guy though.

>>715243526
That's what I said.
Fetishism of the oppressed (as a revolutionary vanguard against rational society)
Obsessive moralism (as it serves the pursuit of the liberal ideal of total emancipation)

They tell you this themselves in their books. You don't even have to read the whole thing just ask Grok for a summary. Start at Kimberlé Crenshaw's "Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement."

It's helpful to understand this stuff as it directly relates to everything getting made lame and gay.

>>715243853
>You don't even have to read the whole thing just ask Grok for a summary.

>>715245251
It's funny you bring up the indians because they really take to this stuff like ducks to water.
They're a dishonest and cowardly people, so a doctrine that allows you to be duplicitous and morally secure is precisely up their alley.

I don't suppose you heard about the cause of the air india 787 crash a little while back? It's been determined that the copilot flipped both fuel cutoffs located near the flaps controls. When the pilot asked him why he'd done it, he replied "I did not".

>>715238350
Same shit

The only way that brand is ever going to make real money is if they start making miniatures on par with the quality of GW

>>715241630
there are plenty but I'm not gunna tell you which ones are the good ones because then it lets normies like you into the fandom ruining it 3 years from now.

>>715247706
They could get minis that would demolish GW entirely and they still wouldn't sell.
No-one cares about D&D merch and no-one will ever care.

>>715248859
This

We need more of this energy. Protect your own.

selfbrewn is the best, why would you stick on what corpos corrupt and dictate anyway pick your base and start going from there eventually your own stuff will be superior in the end perhaps you will even invent/print your own personal rulebook and more

>>715241630
Bullying in public schools used to push TTRPG players to make fantasy characters that were their idealized selves. This has been true for centuries, whether it's Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian or Alexandre Dumas' Count of Monty Cristo. Once bullying was banned in the first world, society no longer had pressure to force losers to be strong and heroic. They could instead devolve into transsexual tieflings.

I say all that to say bring back bullying. Let the bigger kids beat the shit out of nerds and losers, and all of this faggotry will fade away.

>>715234313
I don’t know. A franchise is a business as a product. It means you buy or rent the rights to the business, and you get all the material, trade secrets, etc. So for a fast food chain you get access to their marketing materials, to their trademarked machines, to their recipes, etc.
I suppose what this means is they’re prepackaging D&D in a can to sell to anyone who can pay to make their own D&D products

>>715234053 (OP)
Can it get much worse than 5th edition?

>>715239381
many such cases.

>>715243289
Sounds like the old marxist-leninist dogshit they peddled back in the vatnik union. Only even more ass backwards and schizophrenic

>>715234313
expect marvel crossovers to Dungeon and Dragons, probably more trannies and blacks forced into everything too

>>715257837
Idk, seems more like a desperate invitation to people to please make baldur's gate 3 2.

The speculation multiple times so far is that wotc are going to end up selling dnd as an ip to someone like tencent, but with them opting to keep distribution rights through their websites.

"Franchising" seems to reflect the desire to do just that but retaining ownership, and just foisting the responsibility to develop market and supply products on franchisers (suckers).

They're probably afraid of doing what marvel did in the 90s and selling all their ips, and then taking 30 years to require them and only in part. Sony pictures are still squatting a number of them and making the minimum required films to keep them. See Morbius et al.

>>715234053 (OP)
>live action combat wheelchairs
can't wait!

what's his early life

>>715234245
2024 edition is actually pretty good desu

>>715241630
RIFTS is the only one I can think of.
Deadlands used another fucking time-travelling NPC to erase "The Civil War is still ongoing" from the setting, which means the Hell on Earth setting has zero reason for existence.
Mutant Year Zero is Swedish.
Earthdawn is deader than disco.

I haven't read the new Kickstarter versison of Space 1889, but the 2012 edition went out of its way to call you a bad person if you played anything except a poor minority that stowed away on a ship.

>>715234053 (OP)
Hasbro is a sinking ship, and D&D is starting to get outsold by literal kickstarter projects.

>>715234053 (OP)
Just gonna be more sexual degeneracy and multiculturalism propaganda.

>>715258631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEAsMMx_1jg

>>715234313
They want a cinematic universe, or a sort of platform like Disney. This wouldnt be so bad if the shit their moving forward with is modernist shite that is exactly what you expect from a company that made Orcs into mexicans that are just normal people now, and removed half races because it was racist to have half breeds in a setting with fantasy races that are drastically different, they draw everything as a parallel to reality. Theyve made everything so fucking gay, DnDs fantasy universe is so fucking lame.

>>715253347
But all of this recent horseshit has been because of theater kids (bigger bullies than jocks) hijacking D&D and saying it was always theirs.

>>715234053 (OP)
time to brutally fail to make anything near baldur's gate 3 success as all the money gets pissed away over 4-5 years

>>715259485
Critical Role has done irrevocable damage to the hobby and I hope someone rips out Matt Mercer's painted nails one by one for his transgressions.

>>715259316
Someone that was in it for something other than culture grifting would have titled it something like "The problem with D&D's new edition". Calling it "Woke D&D" signals that the guy just wants to get clicks by feeding people their opinion back to them and signaling as such.

>>715259485
>Theater kids
Before there were trannies and femoids, it's these fucking fucks that infiltrated gaming first. You will never be a nerd. You will always be a theater/band kid. \spit

>>715259727
Shut up faggot who gives a fuck, everything they reference is in the actual PHB and DMG so who fucking cares

>>715241630
You want rpg that is system first and setting second, something like GURPS is impossible to invade because it doesn't have a setting for retards to latch unto.

>>715259316
I'm triggered by lgbtq-people to be honest, if someone wanted to play some asexual genderfluid shit I would leave immedietly.

DnD fans (and star trek fans) are the type of nerds that get bullied by other nerds

>D&D looks fun
>try it out with friends
>years later all of them turn into fags
rping, larping and erping should be criminalized

>>715260076
Because it hijacks the session and makes it all about they/them and whatever sexual perversion they sport

>>715234053 (OP)
Execs have a habit of falling upwards. Give it five years and you'll have highly controversial, completely broken D&D editions and the guy will now be working at Disney on Star Wars.

>>715241612
Tbf regeneration only fixes damage, if they are born as a defect then it wont fix them, it would require a targeted change of a part of their body

>>715260309
Perkins and Crawford, two of the top wotc dnd retards also totally jumped ship to them.
And it's a dogshit theatre kid system build around epic larping and failing forward.
Wild.

>>715237375
They can never admit they've done any wrong because then society at large starts having doubts about whether things should really work that way.
But they're so out of touch they don't realize nearly everyone on earth sees through the act and would celebrate their assassination at this point

>>715260320
It doesnt need to be your limb specifically, does it, just freshen the stump and graft yourself a new arm
Bit of elbow grease and your DM may allow you to get yourself even some giant lobster pincers just because

>>715260497
I mean good riddance, Perkins and Crawford are fucking retarded faggots who ruined the initially okay system of 5e. Like they fucked everything up so bad on their way out it's unreal. They belong with the rest of the retarded theater faggots.

Not saying Mearls was perfect, he was in charge of 4th edition after all, and he's recently been spouting some pretty retarded ideas for game systems... but at the end of the day, he was an actual grognard unlike the other two. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was Larian's main contact in WOTC and the game happened to be successful.

>>715234053 (OP)
Poor dude now has to deal with an entire staff full of women and trannies for at least a couple years.

>>715260786
>and he's recently been spouting some pretty retarded ideas for game systems
tell me more

>>715236076
>Wheelchair
What does he do if the dungeon has steps?

>>715261095
the combat wheelchair rules state that moves over all terrain equally including stairs, and it can't be targeted in battle

>>715260786
Mearls is cool.
He's on record in the past year doing a post mortem of 5e, and one of the things he said is that there's a test you can apply to a system; how well does it facilitate you making just a dwarf with a hammer and smashing up monsters. Then he goes into a 2024 example and starts describing all the obstacles and decisions the player needs to overcome to just make a dwarf with a hammer.

It hardly matters. WotC has been a walking zombie for years now.

Now it should be useful to remind people that D&D is not what the modern player usually assume it is, and that the hobby was ruined long before CR even existed.

D&D is not a "collaborative storytelling game" or bullshit like that. The job of a DM is not to create stories nor players are actors or "main characters".

As concieved originally, D&D is a fantasy adventure game inspired by pulp stories like Conan, Three Hearts Three Lions, Elric and Jack Vance. The DM doesn't make "story arcs", but rather interactive sandbox scenarios ranging from small dungeons to fully mapped regions with factions, where players are free to set their own goals and either succeed or die in the attempt.

Modern D&D is the result of theater kids taking over the scene and dropping most if not all campaign rules on the way.

>>715261167
But if I throw a fireball in just the right spot that the wheelchair is in the aoe...

>>715261536
in first edition it cannot take damage unless specifically targeted.

>>715261167
What a dumb rule, I'll just ignore that one.

>>715260939
He's got some weird ideas about action economy, making it needlessly complex based on what class you're playing, rather than having a streamlined system that applies to everyone (which DND doesn't do well I agree, but PF2E is great imho). He also thinks monsters should be weak defensively but super powerful offensively for some reason, he thinks it makes combat more exciting. I can see his logic, it theoretically should make enemies feel less like hp sponges, but in practice it seems kind of retarded.
>>715261095
Picture related, from the actual WOTC-endorsed supplement.

>>715241832
>pass user
how does it feels knowing i can just use OTHER site which allows me to bypass captchas, bans (i can literally say NIGGER whenever i want) and is completely FREE
while you spend your money on this shithole?

>>715234053 (OP)
Dungeons and Dragons has done irreparable harm to the fantasy genre in games.

>>715261612
>He's got some weird ideas about action economy, making it needlessly complex based on what class you're playing, rather than having a streamlined system that applies to everyone
i need to read more about this because it sounds very retarded

im always glad to read people's boneheaded game design ideas instead of just having culture war shitflinging contests.

>>715261407
>Mearls is cool.
I definitely agree. I think he could have brought DND into a golden age with the help of some other grognards to bounce his ideas off of, because he's not perfect obviously and some of his ideas need work, but instead Critical Role brought DND into the limelight and we got the literal faggot Crawford and AIDs moby theater kid Perkins. He definitely stumbled with 4e but he's now on record saying that was because the suits were pushing for a system capitalizing on the success of WoW, so I can't blame him entirely for the decisions with that edition.

When will AI replace this faggotry altogether? I'm sick of Roll 20 people. I'd rather play with bots.

>>715261612
What if the stairs or passage is narrower than the wheelchair?

>>715261785
This is where I got it from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGFHTAe-wnc

>>715234053 (OP)
So they got rid of the exec who thought mixed-race characters were offensive and who censored everything?

>>715261925
Fold it up, start barrel rolling down the passage/stairs like a fucking retard I guess.

>>715235625
Suits don't know what that is

>>715234313
>>715234967
I tried really hard to get into D&D's main setting forgotten realms but for whatever reason it never clicked with me. I just can't stand this super bland style of fantasy. I read the first 8 Drizzt books, played the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games, but still forgotten realms is just fucking awful and always has been.

The world building is just amateurish and completely uninspired. I'll take literally any setting over forgotten realms. Give me Dragonlance, Ravenloft, or Greyhawk. Hell, I'll even take Pathfinder over Forgotten Realms and Pathfinder is blatant copy of Forgotten Realms because for some reason even when they copied it they managed to inject more life into it than the original had. FR is the definition of soulless slop trash tier fantasy.

>>715261970
>mixed-race characters
what the fuck
aren't half elves, half orcs etc a part of the game for decades?

>>715262023
How the fuck does a cripple carry their wheelchair around, why use it at all if they can do that

>>715241630
Traveller has remained rarher free of the Current Year-isms. I suppose the game actually forcing players to keep making money and take care of their spaceship like responsible adults keeps theater kids and story gamers away.

>playing d&d past 3e
Lol I seriously shiggy diggy

>>715262053
Golarion is a lot like Forgotten Realms because the creators started by making DND supplements for WOTC. Once they got fired they used the OGL to create Paizo.

Of all the DND settings, I'm sad that Eberron has only ever been used in DDO, which is extremely dated now.

>>715234245
>I mean D&D has been shit starting with 4th edition
t. didn't play 4e or is a seething 3ebabby
4e was good

>>715261612
I've been messing around with a lot of homebrew stuff and fast deadly encounters are more fun than slow inevitable victories or defeats.
Nobody wants to be sat at the table getting their meat points slowly chipped down. You want to either gut the monster spectacularly or be utterly mulched.
I think he's right.

>>715235625
No you watch Critical Role, you no play yourself.

>>715262023
>25lbs
Ok, at least they didn't say it weighs as little as modern chairs

>>715262053
Forgotten Realms was originally used as a series of vaguely connected mini-settings you could use separate from one another. It was never meant to be as detailed as it is now or even cohesive, but sadly that faggot Dritz had to appear.

>>715262064
Not any more. They're racist now, and you're a racist by extension for not realizing that.

>>715262303
It's a fair point, but I don't think that's the solution. It places too much emphasis on initiative or striking first, rather than addressing the fundamental problem of boring combat.

>>715262478
Even fantasy settings get ruined by this shit, god damn

>>715236076
I really fucking love this image. It perfectly encapsulates the entire design process; No actual thought went into it. Just look at that dumb smug fuck with his tiny dagger as his opponent unsheathes a much longer sword. The fuck is he going to do with that tiny ass dagger? Roll up toward the enemy and try and stab them with it before they attack him from further away? The fuck is that expression even meant to convey there? 'oh buddy you're so gonna get it, I got this fucking tiny ass dagger right here buddy'?

>>715234053 (OP)
If this man puts the tits, ass, and heavy metal back into D&D then it will be saved.

>>715262280
>forgotten realms lore raped so bad they had to revert back for 5e
>MMO style abilities
>dragonborn
>muddled class identity
>nearly killed the brand because almost everyone switched to pathfinder

>>715237010
>2030: MTG cross overs with Kellog's
I hate how plausible this has actually become.

>>715262632
>holding dagger
>only one hand free to wheel
Hes gonna spin in a circle it seems

>>715262725
You shout TRANS RIGHTS and it locks the diff.

>>715260076
You don't want to play a T1000 slaughtering their way through a campaign?

>>715262632
>>715262725
Take it back you bloody bitch basterds.... my name is Talin Uran and you have chosen death....

>>715263145
>both hands occupied
>has to be wheeled
hah

>>715262606
Don't think it'll remain in fiction. Like all SJW ideas, it'll seep out into the real world. Soon interracial dating and mixed race children will be seen as racist and shunned from the public square. All in the name of progress.

>>715261612
Imagine being above Lv8 as a martial class and still stuck in a wheelchair

>>715234053 (OP)
I just hope we get more video games.
>>715241697
We'll never get another World of Darkness.
>>715262668
He'll put BBW ebony quuens.. That's about as far as sex appeal will get. You need to go back to older systems in order to get women sexy again.

>>715262668
lol, even lmao or mayby even roflcopter

>>715263145
Does the wheelchair float?

>>715240941
they won't do shit. as long as there is sportsball, porn and disney sloppa they will remain sedate even to the point of death

>>715262053
I prefer the Birthright setting, personally.

>>715263565

RAW only near stairs >>715261612 . Why? What about a staircase triggers this magical ability? WOTC really endorsed this shit btw.

>>715263710
Man I wish I never studied geology, fantasy maps used to be enjoyable.

>>715263710
Was Birthright story ever finished? Like does it have a canon story with an ending? I don't like settings that don't go anywhere. I don't mind switching back to 2e. In fact I've managed to get it running with chatbots.

>>715234313
>Someone translate this exec speak to English for me
Imagine metafags/e-sportfags now dictating the development and changes of your favorite game, something like that

>>715234053 (OP)
These 343 employees/executives must be a part of some gaming Illuminati or some shit because their continued influence in gaming makes no sense otherwise.

>>715234053 (OP)
>hey, so uhhh, I just killed a massive franchise and need a new job, you hiring?
>of course!!! come take over our massive franchise!!!! it's declining and at risk already so be careful with it hehe
They do this shit on purpose, don't they? Must be some accelerationist bullshit to kill off every single piece of media and large business. Maybe they're liquidating everything in anticipation of a global massive depression or some shit.

>>715264404
D&D is too big to fail. They can live off reprinting and selling merch. They'd just need to shrink to some 50 people tops.

>>715264005
Yea, bro, totally.

>>715264404
Well Cynthia Williams the former wotc president just got fired from funko.
Seems like there is a limit.

I really hate Larian for giving that decomposing IP a second wind

>>715264235
>I don't like settings that don't go anywhere
What are you talking about? It's a setting...It's supposed to be a place where stories happen.

>story with an ending?
That's not a setting, that's a story then.

>>715264796
Dragonlance has start and finish. Old Greyhawk has an ending of sorts. Dark Sun has an ending. Old Forgotten Realms has that mage plague apocalypse. Cyberpunk has 4th corporate war. Idk about WH Fantasy, but I'm sure it has an apocalypse. VtM has the Gehenna.

>>715262053
Get into Mystara.

>>715264790
In their defense, dealing with Wizards' bullshit apparently honked them off enough to wash their hands of the matter after the one game instead of giving them franchise material like they wanted.

>>715263854
So if they come to a pit the chair won't hover? They'll have to leave him on the other side forever.

>>715265134
It's the best.

>>715264687
that map edit makes zero sense

>>715234053 (OP)
Is this going to make D&D worse or better?

Before WotC, you got a good D&D video game every year. After WotC, you got a few games for a couple, that were probably already planned before the acquisition, and then nothing good for decades.
Basically, what Magic the Gathering video games have always been.
WotC is fucking awful.

>>715265064
>mage plague apocalypse
Not an ending.

>Dark Sun
No ending.

>Old Greyhawk
No ending, and one of the more famously open-ended settings there is in tabletop.

>Cyberpunk 4th corporate war
Transition into Cyberpunk RED, not an ending.

>WH Fantasy
It ended because they wanted to reboot it, not because of a storyline.

>Vampire has Gehenna
In which none of the endings are actually canon, and was designed as an end to your table's chronicle, not the setting.

>>715264687
>no Ireland
They fixed Earth

>>715253347
>I say all that to say bring back bullying. Let the bigger kids beat the shit out of nerds and losers, and all of this faggotry will fade away.

>>715265496
Wizards was doing alright while Atari was still making the games, but the legal bullshit between them (and the massive restructuring that Hasbro did that meant Wizards couldn't use MTG money for D&D) left Wizards with no goddamn plan. Hence Sword Coast Legends and Dark Alliance 3 setting the standard until Larian threw them a lifeline.

>>715264687
Never ceases to make me laugh

>>715265483
Honestly, it'd be hard for D&D to be worse at this point. But if anyone's up to the task, it'd probably be a guy from 343.

>>715236794
Reminds me how Konami insists on making everything Yugioh for ages 8 when everyone who plays is 30+.

>>715236794
They really, really REALLY want to capture a younger audience because they know the guys that played DnD back in its heyday are now pushing 50. Eventually those guys are going to die and they'll have nothing.

>>715262454
That's likely my biggest issue with it, that dissonance and incoherence and why something like Pathfinder is more appealing despite being a blatant copycat. Because when they copied it they made the various parts slot together a little nicer.

Still I can't stand forgotten realms despite my best efforts.

>>715265313
>>715265134
I love those arcade games but beyond them I know absolutely nothing about Mystara as a setting. Inserting coins and hearing "WELCOME TO THE D&D WORLD" is very nostalgic for me because they had a cabinet at my local pizzeria when I was a kid and I'd play that with my dad after school while we waited for our pizza to be ready. Very happy memory. I miss my dad, he was the best.

>>715234053 (OP)
>Hasbro suits really looked at the absolute state of Halo and considered it a good look in his resume.
Executives only ever fail upwards

Only played a couple sessions of it, but so far I like daggerheart a lot more than 5e mechanically. The fluff is all the lamest stuff imaginable, but at this point so is 5e's so fuck it.

>>715267582
Isn't it supposed to be the next 5e? What went wrong?

>>715269228
Nah, man, D&D 2024 (previously known as D&D One or D&Done) is supposed to be the next 5e. Daggerheart is the system the Critical Role people made after the OGL debacle convinced them there was no future in a partnership with Wizards.

>>715234053 (OP)
honestly he can't do worse than what wizards has been doing for the last decade

>>715235670
Third was amazing before they turned it into fucking world of warcraft with 4e

>>715234053 (OP)
Halo has been a disaster to gaming

>>715234313
Baldurs Gate 3 was a massive success, and now they have effectively made it impossible for that to ever happen again.

>>715269870
Nah, man, I enjoyed the games and videogames I played with 3rd/3.5, but Monte Cook made a demonstrably awful system designed to punish non-casters at every tier of play. Hell, the entire reason 3.5 Edition exists is because the 3rd Edition version of Haste broke the action economy.

>>715236076
Rock bottom is a myth.
You can ALWAYS sink deeper.

>>715234313
D&D, though already pretty much slop, is now on the same level as Disney Capeshit slop

>>715262053
You're not really missing much, nobody knows how to do anything interesting with Forgotten Realms save for the writers of Baldur's Gate mostly, the rest is just shit

>>715258631
>Fantasy game
>You role play as literally anything in your imagination
>You can throw fire, turn invisible, summon demons
>Yet you still choose to be a fucking cripple because somehow you felt discriminated on
Gatekeeping status: FAILED

>>715234313
More d&d stuff
Most will be garbage, but hopefully we get some gems here and there

>>715234313
It means they're looking for ways to make people pay money for things.

Completely unrelated note but why the FUCK does Microsoft refuse to give these guys Halo when everything they've done related to Halo has been a net positive especially when they unfucked MCC?

>>715236202
>dogwater
Kill yourself zoomer nigger

>>715234053 (OP)
how is this corporate executive world exclusively full of retards who fail, fail and fail and keep getting promoted and keep getting these cushy gigs? i don't get it. it's even more egregious with this guy because he's white (i'm assuming not part of the small hat tribe) so you can't even point to affirmative action as a reason like with Kathleen Kennedy. if you or me performed as bad as these retards did we'd get fired.

>>715262053
The official settings both for D&D and Pathfinder are shit. You're supposed to make your own setting.

>>715253347
>Alexandre Dumas
>Public School
Lmao
Dumas and his family had the best education possible. His father was literally one of Napoleon's generals even if he was a half-Haitian. Alexandre did not attend any public schooling. His great literature was due to both his aristocratic background, knowledge of court intrigue, his interest in history and presumably the wild stories his father told of Napoleon's campaigns.
You're right about Howard though. But regardless, you're mistaken for your overall point. Most of the people doing this inclusive shit and purity judging are people who either were bullied so hard that they vowed revenge and began to adapt the same sort of mentality their bullies held but using moral authority to do so, or alternatively ex-bullies who adapted to the changing times and became what they are today.. The elimination of bullying didn't have anything to do with it, this would've been inevitable regardless, if anything, the elimination of bullying should've occurred before the internet age and THEN this shit wouldn't have happened. The Internet age connected so many experiences and people together that it allowed people to philosophize over this shit and come up with conclusions that ended up creating the disastrous results we see today. Had bullying been addressed as an issue in the 80s and early 90s, none of this shit would be as is today in nerd culture. Although for politics? That's a different story.
The truth is, this kind of insanity was brought upon by the hippie era and was slowly seeping in the background. Especially with the proxy wars going on in the Cold Wars. Read up about the shit that happened in the 70s-80s in Europe and then you'll get a better understanding.
I also blame the French intellectuals of the 60s-70s, but that's a whole other story.

>>715270956
I know everyone said it already but why is it always a basic ass wheelchair? It's fantasy, you can make it whatever you want! Why not an ornate magical throne you sit on that magnifies your spells and flies? Why not a huge dwarven contraption that you drive like a spider tank? It's the equivalent of a regular dude wanting his character to show up in sweatpants and a wifebeater who fights by sitting on his couch and ordering doordash. The whole point of the game is that its NOT your mundane real life.

>>715272772
Usually a mix or one of the three:
A) Kike
B) Made somebody else very rich under the table even when a company was failing / went belly up
C) Has dirt on somebody bad enough that they are able to leverage their way into some better position

>>715273875
I would genuinely not mind the D&D wheelchairs if it was something like Bentley's wheelchair from Sly 3. And that's just the bare minimum compared to what you're listing.
You can do so much creative shit, but these fuckers have zero creativity or interest in doing anything creative

>>715236794
exact same thing happening with Doctor Who, it's being made exclusively to try to appeal to a nonexistent 'new audience' that will consume the slop and not ask questions about the quality. basically trying to do the Disney Star Wars thing even though that was a spectacular failure.

>>715237542
it's something called a "household name". even if you've never played D&D before, most people are familiar with it and know what it is, even to the point that they would see other tabletop games from competitors and assume that it's a D&D branded product. you can't buy that kind of notoriety. so their strategy is to just slap the name on any old slop and hope it sells based on the brand name alone, while trying to appeal to every single person except for nerds who like D&D and actively hiring people who hate those nerds and want to spite them because gatekeeping is le bad i should be allowed to play a gay sparkle gender muslim in a ninja wheelchair.

>>715239778
i'm a cripple and even i cringed when i first ran into this. they capitalize it 'Disabled' the same way ethnic narcissists and BBC slampigs like the writer of Assassin's Creed Japan capitalize the b in black.

>>715253347
the "pansexual tieflings" ARE the bullies Anon. they're the ones who always said video games, comic books, tabletop, etc. are lame and and are only now infecting it because it's all chic and they see a very small mountain peak they can climb and take over. every single bitchy theater kid who drapes themselves in rainbow flags and social causes is a bully hiding behind the rainbow flag to morally justify their shit behavior.

>>715260076
that's the smartest move. i also make it a point to avoid anything these people touch. i stopped playing on an Everquest private server when i learned that the server operators were trannies which turned out to be the right move because every other week there's some new drama. like they censored the term "gypsy" from the game for awhile because like one person on their discord was freaking out about it.

>>715261909
we're still a ways out. the biggest issue with LLMs right now for text based stuff is the memory, you'll be a few posts in and it forgets all the parameters you set and just puts out generic slop no matter how much you fine tune the software you're using to run your LLM game. this also means that unless you constantly hand hold it in terms of managing stats and things it'll just forget in a few posts.

>>715239109
I think it'd be fine if Hasbro/WoTC just licensed out D&D to guys like the Solasta devs and took a hands off approach. The issue is that the fees they're asking for are ludicrous.
I want a Faerun cRPG that's in Cormyr or something, not the fucking Sword Coast YET AGAIN.

>>715276375
NTA, but I've pulles that off. You absolutely can play D&D with no hallucinations with Gemini. Check /aicg/.

>>715262668
>tits, ass, and heavy metal
you can have zippertits, overbearing male fanservice meant to appeal to homosexual men and woman, and inclusive global music recognition instead

>>715264404
unironically yes. China and the Arab Gulf nations finance a lot of this shit because it weakens the US, cultural exports are a big thing for the US. give it time, after a few more years of this stuff Hasbro will mysteriously get the idea to sell D&D to Tencent.

>>715271881
Indian CEO. Indians don't increase the value of a company by making good products or making things better, they increase value by making everything the company owns worse on purpose and force users to pay to unshittify it.

>>715273875
normies/NPCs/women/theater kids don't understand the appeal of fantasy or heroic stories. look at Rey Skywalker, a character workshopped and written by women who don't like Star Wars. they don't understand Luke Skywalker spent two whole movies being a gay weenie who got his ass kicked constantly before he got to be the cool Jedi Master in RotJ, and even then he still got his ass kicked. meanwhile Rey is just naturally good at everything because she's the hero of the story and the hero is just supposed to like, naturally be good at things, okay? women in particular can't see the struggle, they can only see the outcome and zero in on that.

to them, it's just self-insert and be badass. they're actually too dumb to immerse themselves in another character or embrace other perspectives. it's why normies are so susceptible to zeitgeists like George Floyd or Kony 2012.

>>715234053 (OP)
I know nothing about DnD in it's current state of affairs but I am enjoying BG3 even if it took several tries to actually get into and want to play it.
Playing all those fucking games with yellow paint or outright severely limited gameplay interactivity then playing one where turning blood into ice to trip fuckers or having a "Create Water" spell be considered a powerful spell is some real shit.

>>715234053 (OP)
Who cares? Hasbro and WotC were already huge pieces of shit ruining everything they owned. Sinking D&D faster would be a relief at this point.

>>715239056
Tbf, women have an advantage when it comes to the ultramarathons (over 200 miles), men's higher muscle mass starts being a hindrance in these cases
Basically all ultramarathon winners are women

>>715234053 (OP)
head honcho of a shit IP hired to make DnD an even more shit IP than it already is. Gary is spinning in his grave.

>>715278351
>played BG3 thinks its actual DnD

>>715279357
It's dnd, in relation to 5ed, in the same sense that bg1-2 were in relation to 2ed

>>715278864
nobody cares about that shit. ultramarathons cut your lifespan in half so only masochists and self-pity morons engage in it.

>>715279763
>ultramarathons cut your lifespan in half
Yeah because you spend literally half of your time training and running lmao

>>715262053
the actual main setting will always be Greyhawk. FR has too many overpowered faggots runinng around as it is. anyway why would you not make your own campaign instead? this was the whole point of the ruleset back in the day. you didnt have to use anybody else's faggot setting if you didnt want to.

>>715279585
>in relation to 5ed
Absolutely not. BG3 is full of so many retarded houserules and half-implementations that you would struggle to call it 5.5e, let alone actually say that it's 5e D&D. If anyone ever decides to pick up 5e because they played BG3 and think they know how the system works then I pity both them and everyone else at their table.

>>715279357
I can only assume it partly is, it has the same boomer gambling shenanigans attached to it as DnD.

>>715279585
>5Ed

>>715280329
>so many retarded houserules and half-implementations
Yeah just like what BG1 and 2 did when they adapted 2e.

>>715234313
They want hired guns to work for crap pay making all sorts of D+D shit, books, games, tv, movies, merch, where the creators will retain zero IP rights.


>>715239109
This also probably means squeezing shit like critical role to be licenced, the same way GDW went after all the youtubers.

>>715277238
>>715270202
Considering how things went down with Larian? Not happening.

>>715280984
>This also probably means squeezing shit like critical role to be licenced, the same way GDW went after all the youtubers.
i wonder how they'll go about that, either trying to do some bogus DMCA claim on them to pressure them to agree to a licensing deal (and thereby probably force CR to switch to a different game) or try to make their own CR with bigger names.

>>715262668
LOL. No.

>>715263565
Notice the spelljammer hes riding has stairs? He can float up and down those, and stairs in general, but not normally. He shows up in video games now. He's a rogue. He backstabs people in that thing.

>>715280858
>BG3 isn't actual 5e D&D
>"Yeah but BG1 and 2 weren't actual 2e D&D so that means they all are actual D&D!"
Anon I don't think you're intelligent enough to continue participating in this conversation, which is in all honesty pretty impressive in its own way.

>>715265483
Probably worse, but he's going to have to work his ass off for that outcome.

>>715265496
The entirety of Hasbro is completely terrible.

>>715265946
I have some inside baseball here because some people in my kenkyshitsu went to konami, and travel regularly to El Segundo. A bunch of that is DEFENSIVE, and it helps them shut down the numerous people inside and out who want "mature subjects", when they actually want to load it with gay and trans shit, and modern political bitching.

>>715234313
Dumbfuck Hasbro leadership had each group working on D&D shit being completely independent. Zero cooperation.

For example: the virtual tablebot that just imploded. The tabletop guys would go over to ask the guys working on the rules about the changes and the rules guys would tell the tabletop guys to fuck right off, and there was no one over both groups that could tell them to play nice.

In theory, this move should fix that shit, but since it's Hasbro it'll just result in a different flavor of dumbfuckery. Or maybe exactly the same flavor.

>>715269647
I believe in him anon.

>>715270789
Ed greenwood has trailed off for the past decade, and I don't feel too good either.

>Halo exec
>343
lmao

>>715273875
Because in this case, it was explicitly created to make someone feel represented. And the bitches who do it for representation purposes don't think it counts if it's too magical or unrelatable of a solution, like animated magic armor or a magic carpet.

>>715281285
The critical role types are more likely to move to another game system. Corporodouche in OP will probably try to push for their own sponsored critical role. They MIGHT try to sue the existing system that critical role moves to if it's too similar, or they think it's worth it.

>>715282046
I bet the execs focus on the fluff more than mechanics.

>>715277303
>You absolutely can play D&D with no hallucinations with Gemini. Check /aicg/.
Do they have a proxy up?

>>715264687
I love this image so much

>>715283176
probably? ask them. I don't use it personally. Just go and play.
>>>/vg/530967219

>>715236076
The combat wheelchair will always be fucking hilarious to me
>Hamfisted inclusion for "diversity" even though anyone legitimately sensitive about being in a wheelchair would come up with their own homebrew fantasy for it
>It's actually insanely overpowered on paper and most 5e DMs have to homebrew against it or else every single powergamer at the table is taking one regardless of whether their legs still work

>>715236871
>>715238901
bootlicking nigger.

>>715234313
They're assblasted that they let Larian make a billion dollars on BG3 without understanding that the only reason it did so was because it was a great game that just had the DnD trappings.

>ex-halo dev
what kind of halo dev?

>>715234313
>We're doing what we did with Magic: the Gathering and trying to line go up BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR on another I.P. we own
>Despite the fact everyone is sick of us and looking at non-d20 TTRPG systems.
>Buy 6E/"One DnD" BTW, good goys.

>>715284978
....halo 4

>>715262632
the real zinger was the concept art from the '24 rules update. first image had a old wizard front and centre. he got progressively shoved further back into the group and more women got added and placed in the front. you could see the DEI operatives walk into the concept artists room picture to picture.

>>715261909
I play with friends. You do have friends, right?

>>715261612
>lmao your chair can just levitate because of stones and magic
Jesus fuck, and I thought warhammer was going down the shitter.

>>715237542
>I really don't see what Hasbro sees in this IP.
nothing. They wanted MTG and got D&D in the bargain

>>715234053 (OP)
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>>715278351
i can´t get into it. got it on sale and i lost interest at the goblin camp on my furthest attempt.
the only good thing that happened in the 26hours i wasted trying to get into having fun was shart cutting me off with some scripted emo monologue at some broken statue while a gnome was stripped to a windmill, screaming in the background while she monologued about her shitty godess of darkness.

>>715285626
We haven't gotten together to play in over a year now and we only play 5e.

>>715234053 (OP)
ah yes, one of the people who managed to fuck up hard enough to drive one of the once most profitable gaming franchises in the world into the ground so hard that the latest release's player count is overtaken by 15-20 year old entires. Truly an inspired choice that will surely have no negative reprecussions whatsoever. Failing upward is real.

>>715282046
>For example: the virtual tablebot that just imploded.
Did that even release? AFAIK it was in a beta that you had to pay for through their Fandom or whatever wiki service.

To my understanding D&D has been going down hill since they added rogues.

>>715243526
found it

>>715234053 (OP)
>Tameem ruined dmc
>Dina ruined Mighty No 9
>now this
How are lebs so powerful? Vgh, the mighty Canaanites

>>715287317
You just have to keep grinding through it, post level 5 it starts to open up a decent amount with what you can do.

I have karmic dice off and I save scum to see as many possible dialogues / outcomes then take whatever the Vengeance Paladin route would be.
So...you know, killing about 85% of the people I meet, even after I talk them out of fighting. Slaughtered the whole goblin camp.

>>715280329
>BG3 is full of so many retarded houserules and half-implementations
...So, like TT 5E, then?

>B-B-Buuuut RULES A--
Nobody plays RaW DnD, no matter the E. Shut the fuck up.

>>715237165
Yeah, but how is he in memeMander/EDmeme? Nobody plays Magic anymore.

>>715275284
>BBC slampigs like the writer of Assassin's Creed Japan
>Writer is a white dude
Anon... nani the fuck do you mean?

>>715261909
Just do solo TTRPG? You don't need AI slop shit for that. Just dice, some tables (you or someone else made) for encounters/ideas when stuck and go from there.

There is (was?) a thread on tg for this.

You can even use something like this: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/475920/the-gamemaster-s-apprentice-2e-base-deck

>>715289523
open world slop games don't have a singular writer, he's just one of them

>>715234053 (OP)
fuckin hell that is grim. sorry d and d fans

>>715237239
>Do you remember when 40k was a good war game
Played since 2e, so no.

>DOW
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

>>715289674
But I'm not doing solo RPG. I'm running a simulation of multiplayer adventures. I've discovered a system of adapting modules so I can play them by myself with absolute accuracy. I can play solo RPG games if I want, but I wanted to make something completely new.

>>715289227
If someone's houserules change as much as BG3's then they're better off just playing a different system, especially if they're as retarded as Larian when it comes to balancing their retarded changes. Anyone who actually plays TTRPGs would know that, but it's cute that you thought you could chime in.

>>715234053 (OP)
>>715234313
From a pure business perspective this makes a lot of sense.
Dungeons & Dragon has had strong brand identity and market dominance and recognition for nearly 50 years but because of the nature of the product this doesn't translate into sales and all their attempts to branch out the franchise into other mediums have mostly been middling to shit with only occasional financial success.

>>715234053 (OP)
Isn't Hasbro going to die soon? Who cares what they do.

>>715291434
>If someone's houserules change as much as BG3's then they're better off just playing a different system
If you look into any D&D community you will see this is the case for maybe 50% of the games people are running but they refuse to try any other system that isn't 5E because they are completely mazed by D&D and have huge sunk cost and time cost invested in the game.
You will see people ask questions like
>How can I run a modern setting DnD campaign?
>I want to run a Fallout DnD 5e game
>I like Warhammer 40K is there a full DnD 5e conversion to run it?
When its like THERE ARE DIFFERENT GAMES AND SYSTEMS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR ALL OF THESE TIHNGS STOP TRYING TO MAKE 5E INTO THINGS ITS NOT ITS NOT A GOOD FITS ALL SYSTEM IT SUCKS ASS AND IS LIMITED

>>715262701
still has the most fun combat system of any DnD and DnD doesn't have any value aside from combat.

>>715292265
What you are looking for is in fact not a Table Top ROLE PLAYING Game but a Wargame which is fine but maybe DnD isn't for you and you should try Warhammer.

>>715273875
>but why is it always a basic ass wheelchair? It's fantasy, you can make it whatever you want!
holy fucking shit blackrock did such damage to gaming it's not even funny

>>715288385
Yes, but only in the most technical sense.

They shitcanned 90% of the team that worked on it and they have an absolutely barebones crew "supporting" it.

>>715236076
ah yes, things getting better in modern times.
>movies are worse than ever
>games are worse than ever
>music is worse than ever
>hobbies are worse than ever
>economy is worse than ever
but sure, a guy that failed upward by overseeing 3 failed games will definitely make an insanely expensive card game on the downtrend better.

>>715234313
Jews bought something in order to completely subvert and destroy it

>>715292437
NTA, but role playing is my least favorite aspect of tabletop gaming. I like DMing, but I don't enjoy acting out my character when being a player. I'm a min-maxer and a rules lawyer. Dialogues don't amuse me.

>>715234053 (OP)
>Halo
Could be-
>343
RIP D&D

>>715234053 (OP)
HALO IS GOING TO GET A DND GAME HOLY SHIT

>>715296149
Didn't they put their money into HeroClix or something?

>>715274416
i would prefer a master blaster situation with a half orc

>>715234053 (OP)
What they should do
>Massive open world single-player rpg, with romance mechanics based on pic related
What they're going to do
>Gay/nigger elves and wheel chair paladins

>>715298373
Nah, open world is gay. The best adventures have some direction.

>>715298373
this will never happen

>>715299002
I'd have said Swen is enough of a pervert to make it happen, but apparently Wizards burned that bridge by firing their entire liaison office while they were working with Larian.

>>715275284
>Doctor Who
the original audience of dr who are mid 70s to early 80s at this point. you are almost certainly one cycle of the new audience.

>>715299213
Swen at least set up a new standard for romance in games. Shit, I wish Witcher 1 set up that standard a long time ago, but okay.

>>715299432
NuWho isn't the same as Classic Who.

>>715234245
>>715262280
>>715262701
4e was kino. pathfinder is for fags

>license your defunct video game brand to a boutique studio probably on some corporate whim
>the game sells gangbusters and generates tons of good will towards your beleaguered franchise
>assume this is because of something you did and fire that game studio and immediately start dumping capital into starting your own game studio (how hard can it be, we got the guy from halo 5!)
every c-suit is like this, all across the world. they're the biggest fucking monkies imaginable

>>715291938
>Isn't Hasbro going to die soon?
Magic the Gathering is printing money so no

>>715234053 (OP)
how can dnd liscense anything? like its just generic anything why would anyone pay for dnd branded anything vs some origional fantasy thing

>>715300743
Because American copyright law is fucking awful.

>>715265316
It's a parody of another edit that was made unironically.

>>715300442
Is it? I'd heard they were struggling due to overprinting mini-sets that weren't selling.

>>715300894
>Is it?
It's making over a billion bucks per year and in 2025 it will sell even more because of the Final Fantasy cards.

>>715300819
we need to move past copyright as a society

>>715293403
DnD was already destroyed. It's been on life support for ages.
>>715234313
>hey you know all those player-created quests, monsters, plots, characters, books, whatever else you like because they aren't made by our tranny DEI hires? now you have to pay us for them and the creators have to pay us twice for using our IP
That's basically it. They're closing down their licensing for independent creations, they're just using new language to do it after the backlash they experienced the first time.

>>715303702
>copyright bad
I think people, authors and musicians and whatnot, should have a right to make money off whatever it is they create. I also don't think the filthy chinks should be able to rip off everything that comes out ever.

>>715298039
Has been done before, apparently the synergy of 2 players absolutely tore through encounters like nobody's business. Read up Of Midgets and Mounting.

>>715234313
>exec speak
Exactly that, it means nothing. It's just a way of saying we are gonna keep doing the same thing: propaganda, branching, propaganda, maybe a new movie, propaganda, more d&d novels, propaganda, propaganda, new games in the d&d universe, propaganda, etc.

>>715304495
>I think people, authors and musicians and whatnot, should have a right to make money off whatever it is they create.
Crowdfunding and subscription based services prove that this is possible during the actual process of creation, which does not need copyright law to happen and actively encourages innovation and creation instead of milking dead horses forever.
>I also don't think the filthy chinks should be able to rip off everything that comes out ever.
And yet they still do, but you just don't buy or interact with it. Imagine that.

>>715304495
copyright law doesn't do anything to hamper China ripping things off, they'll just make shit in their own country where US copyright doesn't apply. they literally do this to every manufacturer they work with, they steal the designs, make them cheaper and undercut the original creator.

>>715304594
making this an explicit part of the rules (and making blaster slower and a little off balance from his extra backpack) would be great.

>>715305314
>subscription-based services
Actual, factual, super-cancer. Hang yourself.

>>715234053 (OP)
>>715234313
I swear there's some retard factory out there manufacturing these people.

>>715262701
3E was the edition that nearly killed D&D, not 4E. Hasbro was legitimately considering retiring the game as a whole before 4E was in development.

I don't reckon it's possible at all to get into tabletop roleplaying these days without having to put up with gay theatre kids, is it?

>>715234053 (OP)
I’m not interested in fantasy written and made by and for women. I’m just… not.

>>715262701
Forgotten Realms is so bad that it's a positive that it fucked it up and it was still objectively better to adventure in than older versions of FR.
There is literally nothing wrong with this.
No, that's 3E.
No, that's 3E.
No, that's 3E.

>>715241630
Sword World. Can't go wrong with it cuz it's from Japan.

>>715267091
>I love those arcade games but beyond them I know absolutely nothing about Mystara as a setting

The 'gods' are ascended mortals, the afterlife is metempsychosis (reincarnation), and becoming an Immortal is akin to becoming a Buddha (albeit, much less abstract.) The primary kingdoms in the setting have a very notable Mediterranean style, the Earth is hollow and has ancient cultures stuck in 'stasis' (Ancient Greece, Native Americans, Pajeets and Neanderthals etc), kinda like Brainiac's worlds in DC comics, and there's dinosaurs (including a dinosaur wizard Immortal.) Also has a tiny sun in the middle with clouds. It's also a very xenophobic setting and outsiders from the planes are not welcome (including gods from Toril, Oerth etc.) There's a whole lotta other stuff cuz it was the main setting for BECMI, while Greyhawk was the setting for AD&D (lot of people are huge stans for BECMI, mostly due to its simplicity and expanded player expression, alongside less autistic rules.) Even as a person with barely any D&D experience, it was amazing how simple and fun it was to run, it's as complex as you want to make it.

>>715309357
Sounds comfy. What about Wilderlands?

>>715307641
Gay theatre kids only play surface level D&D and obvious fetish/fanfic fuel games like Ironclaw and V:tM. If you actually try to look for good systems that are built to play the kind of games you like, you'll find groups willing to give you a shot solely because they're desperate for fresh blood willing to play anything other than D&D.

>>715311636
I'm not sure where to start. Which resources would be useful, which settings and rulesets are out there, what group finding platforms aren't overrun with subhumans, etc.

>>715312840
If you live in a place that isn't a complete shithole, your Friendly Local Game Store is always a good place to start. Just peruse what rulebooks they have, ask if they have any game nights or ongoing campaigns for anything other than D&D, check for flyers, etc.

>>715302124
They are living on external franchises

what's the deal with "theater kids?" I know exactly the kind of people it's talking about but what makes them that way? are they failed normies pretending to be nerds? or are they nerds who ended up extroverted and bpd instead of autistic and schizoid?

>hmmm lets see your resume
>says here you killed Halo
>great job, we'll hire you on, take good care of DnD
>>I am going to kill DnD
>wow so brave

>>715313519
I do live in a place that is a complete shithole. I'm only gonna be able to do it online.

>>715236076

The guy on the left is LITERALLY holding a chef's knife. This fucking retard artist didn't know what a fucking dagger or dirk or knife should look like so he just walked into his kitchen and grabbed whatever shitty overpriced knife he owns and used it as a reference. What a stupid fucking game, fuck anyone who still gives WOTC money, you should be ashamed.

>>715314918
to be fair i've played RPGs where that's the kind of loot you can expect from level 1 bandits and shit

>>715314117
Its basically the second thing for most of them, but with it also being a place for gays who would otherwise be normies but were to feminine to fit in elsewhere.

>>715314117
they need to be the center of attention at all times so they're drawn towards social identities with some form of power and communities they can manipulate/control. it's why anytime there's some new thing or some niche thing getting popular they're first on the scene to start setting up their power base.

go to /lgbt/ and lurk around a few threads, it's the same behavior

>>715270956
So what would happen if he encounters a band of horny female goblins that tip him over?

>>715273875
Because the people doing this shit have zero imagination, it's why they always self-insert and why they can't even comprehend the idea of seeing anything through a lens that isn't their own.

>>715234313
>Someone translate this exec speak to English for me
"I got rid of everyone else, now it's just me and my boys. We want more money, so we're making more slop"

>>715234313
>We're going to keep cashing checks while this company goes down the shitter. The shareholders are retarded so no one is going to stop us.

>>715262161
because the stats for the chair are so broken you'd be handicapping yourself by not having one, even if you're not crippled.

>>715262053
>I read the first 8 Drizzt books, played the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games

honestly the dullest parts of the setting. even the recent movie shows of more interesting parts of the world. try the elaine cunningham/kate novak/jeff grub books.

>>715267091
the games are like $4 right now if anyone wants them

>>715314918
it would work in Pathfinder since Pathfinder has a Chef class.

>>715314918
>>715315138
>>715321342
That's supposed to be a high level rogue.

The whole fun of DND is making shit up in a basement with your dork friends and you can't patent that

>>715314918
>you LITERALY can't stab a guy with a kitchen knife

>>715238514
>three consecutive critical hits
>you have to hit a base 5% chance roll three times IN A ROW to break it
>because it's "designed" to be sturdy
Who the fuck decided that armor didn't need to be "designed" as sturdy as a goddamn chair?

>>715262053
I remember in ninth grade a cousin gave me a copy of the hobbit and one of the forgotten realms book
can't remember the name of the book, shit was so boring
hobbit was 10000x more interesting

>>715281373
>He shows up in video games now.
Fucking WHERE I need to see this clownery

>>715282658
I could see this happening
people actually migrating to other shit is woefully uncommon but more likely to happen for d&d than gw
d&d is big but other systems have done at lot better for themselves, pathfinder at least stands up, making your own stuff up wholesale is very common in the ttrpg world
gw is still absolutely dominant in wargames and nothing comes close at all, the biggest number 2 was warmahordes at its peak and that shit has petered out massively. Worse still is that gwfags DO NOT care about anything else wargame-wise;

>>715234294
BG3 was the shot in the arm D&D needed, but it didn't do much because WotC are fucking retarded.

>>715234053 (OP)
>The entire Dungeons & Dragons franchice - D&D video games included - is now led by Dan Ayoub, a former 343 Industries executive and studio leader.
So the image is wrong then because it says he is a former halo exec

>>715234053 (OP)
how does dnd make money, i literally never seen anyone play it or talk about it irl. Even in barns and nobles its a super small section

>>715261612
>He also thinks monsters should be weak defensively but super powerful offensively for some reason, he thinks it makes combat more exciting.
I agree with your disclaimer in that this is a good system on the vidya side
ie how KH2's crit mode has felt by far the best of the crit modes as nearly all of the other ones increase enemy damage but lower your damage as well like fucking elder scrolls legendary, making for a more tedious game

>>715324932
It doesn't, really. They used to monetize selling official game campaigns, but they went retarded trying to squeeze too much. Then they began trying to shit out manuals and Prestige Classes to sell manuals, and....idk just throwing ideas at the wall to try to turn a simple game into a cashcow. Totally stupid, it's like thinking you could coast for 40 years off of selling Uno decks.

>>715236076
>Bad guy design a dungeon that excludes people with disabilities

>>715243703
Sounds more like replacing your legs with high fantasy cybernetic spider limbs than a wheelchair.

>>715324932
>>715325247
It's more that hobby is in a weird situation where it never had more exposure, but also different ways to get playing content without directly buying it. All those shows, live plays and whatnot that people love or bitch about do not for the publisher because they won't make new players get into the hobby. They're simply observing it from the outside as entertainment.

>>715261407
>Then he goes into a 2024 example and starts describing all the obstacles and decisions the player needs to overcome to just make a dwarf with a hammer.
Seriously?
I stopped keeping up with DnD after 4th ed.
How did they manage to fuck up the traditional shit by adding other crap?

>>715325397
>it's so over

>>715262391
>your DM "might" make you track the weight of your 25 lb collapsible wooden chair that can take more punishment than a bugbear in full plate

>>715325247
I've seen dnd webcomics and fanfiction, surely someone out there has played it for real meanwhile I'm a mere screenplay watcher.

>>715243853
>just ask Grok for a summary
Thanks but I prefer to use something other than the "searches elons tweets to make sure its answers align with his opinion" chatbot when I'm looking for actual information

>>715324932
Tournaments was how the old old OG TSR actually made money. Gary Gygax and his old crew just loved gaming period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwKztsXquoM

>>715325595
Tried to listen to their campaign, literally stopped because this guy and redhead are really god damned annoying. Holy shit.

>>715236076
It's funny you think that, because /v/ (and posters like you) are definite proof that shitty things can always get worse.

>>715325934
I always have a good laugh realizing what grognards they all were. Narrative obsession began entirely with the players.

>>715235892
Tell me you never played 2e without telling me you never played 2e

it's kinda hilarious how difficult it is to make money off of d&d
you can like, pirate 1 pdf, find a character sheet template, and join a game and that's it lol
the not-hilarious part is that it means hasbro needs its money and, after shooting themselves in the for 1 million fucking times, they have to milk MTG more and more and more and more
I sincerely hope MTG soon hits its inflection point/peak audience capture. but that'll probably be far off for some time given the insane amount of money WOTC has made from Final Fantasy paypiggies (I had no clue how nuts this was gonna be, didn't realize how slop hungry FF fans are)

>>715234053 (OP)
Yeah still not gonna play D&D
but good look WotC

>>715234053 (OP)
Is this the retard that changed NWN2's name to add "DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS" in front of it? Because whoever did that deserves a beating

>>715326259
>didn't realize how slop hungry FF fans are
It makes complete sense that people who still like Final Fantasy's completely dogshit stories are likewise attracted to Magic's completely dogshit stories.

I used to love Final Fantasy and then I grew up. Anybody who still claims to like Final Fantasy has the shittiest take in fiction and haven't grown up. It's why Dr. Who and Ghostbusters are also Magic collaborations because the people in that company like dogshit.

>>715325784
Ask the breadtuber you get your opinions from then

>>715326259
like anon above said the problem is a lot of people are not actively participating in the hobby. they'll buy shit to support someone, but that's not an invested paying customer who will buy every supplement you put out. if you look at D&D's publications over the decades they've scaled back significantly.

>>715234053 (OP)
>let's revoke OGL to make everyone pay us for mentioning anything D&D-related, don't worry we totally will not sue everybody forever
>Gary Gygax passed away, so let's immediately delete his name from every credit and document to memory hole that chud
>let's make D&D a subscription service because "it's not monetized enough" (yes, that whore of a CEO said this quite literally)
>now this >>715234053 (OP)
Is this some sort of ineptitude competition?
I'm sure I'm forgetting tons of imbecility here.

>>715326862
>>let's make D&D a subscription service because "it's not monetized enough" (yes, that whore of a CEO said this quite literally)
jesus christ what a shitshow that was. end result was just backtracking everything they said after after so many people went separate ways from ogl. shit, fucking paizo did with pathfinder.

>>715326862
The fact those are all mistakes that have been made before is perfect. Management for this IP is stuck in a groundhog day loop.

>>715326259
they just have to make a virtual tabletop that's better than tabletop simulator. supposedly they had one planned for 4th edition but the guy in charge of it killed himself.

>>715326862
>Is this some sort of ineptitude competition?
Listen this is how all business works.

The CEO is appointed by the board, the board is appointed by the shareholders - each share represents a single vote so people can buy more votes. The board only cares about profit, the CEO exists to execute that objective.

All CEOs operate in the same way. It is not necessary to be familiar with the product to be a good CEO. A manufacturing CEO has all the same skillset as a gaming CEO. The way these people operate is that they provide a record of doing all the right things to earn profit. You can fire half the staff and show you've cut costs, improving profitability. It's not just the CEO but all executives work this way so hiring some dipshit who has worked on Halo for 11 years looks very credible to a board.

You have to understand corporate gaming (that you can sell to children) is maybe only 20 years old. Nobody who has occupied the CEO seat in these 20 years is a gamer - their first console was an Atari maybe; they grew up loving Star Wars (and sadly still do). They don't know fuck-all about the product and treat it like they were selling potato chips. Now, I said that you don't need to know shit about your product as a CEO and you don't - because all they need to know is that this is a gambling product and the science behind selling gambling is so well established and now they get to sell gambling to children. And all the shit gamers care about - that is less important than selling gambling.

>>715327456
Sigil already got killed without even a launch.
I think they aspired to have an LLM dungeon master run it and the tech just wasn't advanced enough to satisfy the c suite.

>>715325595
Poor guy. The fact that hes surrounded by so many photogenic people and hes also ugly as shit because of that hair makes him stand out so fucking much. Even Sam Riegel who's not all THAT photogenic looks like a model compared to his goofy looking ass. Is that really the best shot they had of him?

>>715234053 (OP)
>former 343 Industries executive
>executive

Dark Allience 2 was the last good DnD with big milkers

>>715325397
>Critical Role
My older brother watches this should I be worried.

>>715330329
It is good you care for your brother but your priority should not to condemn him for what he likes but find something you both enjoy so that later in life you are friends and can always find an excuse to go do that thing you both enjoy even if friendship is difficult or you are distant.

There's nothing wrong if someone likes watching stupid faggots play D&D on stream. The only issue there is if they are paying these people to watch them - that is the only thing they should stop doing especially if they are not financially well off.

>>715330329
Hilariously enough WotC have been such fags that even critical role is moving away from them and dnd as a whole to another game system. Also stopped their publishing deal with them from what I heard.

>>715323913
You're right, but from the specifics I barely know and doubt I understand it sounds more like they're saying if you and your friends get really successful they're offering to officially fold your work in as an official thing if you kick up to them.

Which is still fucking useless since while I have nothing against the DnD material the fact is none of it is original, not one thing, from the beginning it was lifting directly or partially from folklore and media to fill up its race and monster roster. WotC would have to prove first that anything it's contributed to someone's success with its stage and props was created by the company, otherwise anyone sensible could just point to another source or even change some stuff around if need be and continue on. There is no evident benefit to getting in bed with them.

>>715263145
What the fuck is Jarlaxle doing there with that crippled retard?

>>715234053 (OP)
I mean it is already dead, you cannot do worse at this point
>>715234245
This guy gets it

>>715234053 (OP)
BG3 really lit a fire under their asses huh

>>715234313
Well is it is like that one scene from spaceballs with Yogurt explaining the Schwartz.
Merchandising.

No idea why would you hire this bozo in particular.
Companies sometimes hire people based on how well they understand the paperwork and their inner bureaucracy. Modern game development is a lot of paperwork.