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Anonymous No.715367336 >>715368298 >>715368903 >>715369418 >>715369669 >>715369785 >>715370448 >>715377451 >>715377479 >>715378492 >>715378645 >>715379871 >>715380407 >>715381503 >>715381743 >>715381940 >>715383057 >>715383642 >>715383667 >>715383884 >>715383917 >>715384197 >>715384207 >>715384282 >>715384284 >>715385295 >>715385643 >>715386451 >>715386895 >>715386924 >>715387927
>make a black and white sloppy pixel art RPG Maker game that's only about creepypastas, furry tumblr characters spewing ironic jokes, and subverting JRPGs
>literally no gameplay except some phone game tier minigame
>sell millions

Was indie gamedev really this easy 10 years ago? Wow..
Anonymous No.715368298 >>715377305 >>715378437 >>715379713 >>715382591 >>715384273 >>715385295 >>715385738 >>715386895 >>715389903
>>715367336 (OP)
>rip off dozens of existing video game tunes and steal their soundfonts
>outright plagiarize shit
>absolutely zero acknowledgement given
>fanbase cult will just call it "sampling"/"a homage" and insist you're jealous for some reason
>not allowed to say anything otherwise you'll ruin your career/reputation for saying bad things about Toby Fox
Anonymous No.715368903 >>715369130 >>715376496 >>715385295
>>715367336 (OP)
i would be seething if i was itoi. some jew just copied my entire game, made it gayer then made billions
Anonymous No.715369130
>>715368903
Instead of seething, when itoi met him he said he should made an undertale 2
Anonymous No.715369418 >>715369563
>>715367336 (OP)
Undertale is /v/core
Anonymous No.715369563
>>715369418
This, I've been here for quite a while (since 2022!) and Toby is /our/ /guy/
lovecraft’s cat No.715369669
>>715367336 (OP)
Undertale came out of the Homestuck team, and thereby my best friend from the team who is an artistic genius, and I am an artistic genius. That formed resources from social connections to make a popular series. I also design and write worlds full of horrible monsters - some of them based on my best friend - so that helps.

I posted this because I was harassed in the Homestuck thread.
Anonymous No.715369785 >>715376312
>>715367336 (OP)
awful fucking bait. enjoy the engagement
Anonymous No.715369831 >>715374037
The key to making a successful indie game is having really good music, prove me wrong.
Anonymous No.715369948 >>715370062 >>715370272 >>715383331
Why pajeets hate successful indie games so much?
Anonymous No.715370062
>>715369948
Because they think success is being part of mass hires to a big corpo. It has nothing to do with how well the game sells they're looking at their own potential prospects
Anonymous No.715370272
>>715369948
Why do zoomers worship laziness
Anonymous No.715370448 >>715371368 >>715374307
>>715367336 (OP)
Not sure why it blew up like that but I played it in 2015 and thought it was charming.
Anonymous No.715371368 >>715371465
>>715370448
I liked Undertale when I first played it but the gaster mystery has been living in my head ever since.
I swear to fuck I'm going to riot if Deltarune doesn't reveal everything.
Anonymous No.715371465
>>715371368
>he fell for the mystery meme
Anonymous No.715374037
>>715369831
UT proves you wrong
Anonymous No.715374307
>>715370448
>Not sure why it blew up like that
same reason pokemon did. gaster
Anonymous No.715376312
>>715369785
Zoom-coded post
Anonymous No.715376496
>>715368903
itoi copied shit as much as toby did
Anonymous No.715377305 >>715377441 >>715378437 >>715379554 >>715380837 >>715384187
>>715368298
you know, there's a lot of hate people direct towards undertale that's just pointless seething, but the soundfont thing is an actual legitimate criticism that confuses me. because it's pretty clear that legally speaking, using soundfonts is not allowed, unless you actually got the sound from its original source instead of from the game. but Toby did the latter. basically illegal. and YET his game even came as far as being featured in the super smash bros ultimate ost, owned by the company who owns the ips whose soundfonts he stole. what gives??
Anonymous No.715377441 >>715377741 >>715378437
>>715377305
It's illegal in the sense that if the copyright owners decided to sue him, they'd be in the right, however in this case the copyright owners decided they make more money by letting him market their games to his underage fanbase for free so they let it slide
Anonymous No.715377451
>>715367336 (OP)
The furfag troons ain't gonna like this
Anonymous No.715377479
>>715367336 (OP)
I've never actually been interested in UT/DR, I just want to see what Robert was dreaming which made him waste more than 14 years on it.
Anonymous No.715377741 >>715378254
>>715377441
but it doesn't make sense because undertale was a pc exclusive for 3 years and came to playstation before switch. so lots of time to sue him pre-nintendo era
Anonymous No.715378254 >>715378503
>>715377741
They probably didn't even notice, I doubt they would've done anything about Palworld if not for the one million @FBI reports about it "stealing" their designs
Anonymous No.715378437 >>715378665
>>715368298
>>715377305
>>715377441
Most of the soundfonts he used from old SNES games were stolen from various random synthesizers in the first place, Nobuo Uematsu and Yasunori Mitsuda did not sit at their computers and manually jot in sound frequencies, nor did they record their own samples. Attempting to attack Undertale on copyright infringement over soundfonts would only expose their own infringement.
Anonymous No.715378492
>>715367336 (OP)
its weird how these posts shit on Undertale and not Deltarune despite Deltarune doing what you just said but way more than Undertale did
Anonymous No.715378503
>>715378254
they shitcanned am2r pretty quickly.
Anonymous No.715378645 >>715378773
>>715367336 (OP)
You're just mad cuz it got popular.
Anonymous No.715378665 >>715379778 >>715382661
>>715378437
they didn't infringe anything because using presets of hardware you own is completely legal, and encouraged. the Roland d50 was literally nothing but a preset player that went on to define 80s and 90s music. the thing is that toby doesn't own the hardware and instead took samples that were ripped from the games, and it's at that point it becomes a legal problem.
Anonymous No.715378773
>>715378645
>that tweet
Cope better, Robert.
Anonymous No.715379049 >>715379189 >>715379437
Clearly no one here is a copyright lawyer, but using samples to create new music has to be allowed.
I mean, the entire soundtrack of Sonic Rush uses samples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLMK_OydOIU
Anonymous No.715379189
>>715379049
it's the fact that they are not quite samples, they're ripped from the game files. that's different from just recording the output.
Anonymous No.715379437 >>715379591
>>715379049
Samples need to be cleared
Anonymous No.715379554 >>715379591 >>715379675 >>715379850 >>715384731
>>715377305
>because it's pretty clear that legally speaking, using soundfonts is not allowed
What are you talking about? Should he pay royalties to the family of the guy who invented the piano too? Even massive hip hop producers use sampling extensively. Pop music recycles the same handful of chords and chord progressions constantly. This isn't a new phenomenon. The guy is clearly creating something novel, it's his compositions, his melodies. This is clearly retarded and falls apart if you think about it for more than 2 seconds.
Anonymous No.715379591 >>715379705
>>715379554
see >>715379437
Anonymous No.715379675
>>715379554
disingenuous post
Anonymous No.715379705 >>715379762 >>715379982
>>715379591
They absolutely do not need to be cleared. It depends on the extent of your sampling. Being angry over using a sound font is like being angry over using piano or guitar notes.
Anonymous No.715379713
>>715368298
>rip off dozens of existing video game tunes and steal their soundfonts
welcome back hussie, i was wondering where you've been.
Anonymous No.715379762 >>715379864 >>715379887
>>715379705
nobody cares about your emotional interpretation, the discussion is about legality
Anonymous No.715379778 >>715380121
>>715378665
Who are you to say that Toby Fox, a musician, doesn't own some 80s and 90s synthesizers?
Anonymous No.715379850
>>715379554
>his melodies
Anonymous No.715379864
>>715379762
Oh yeah? Cite the law that using sound fonts violates. Because to me it's clearly the same as using an existing instrument.
Anonymous No.715379871
>>715367336 (OP)
The creator of Undertale had a clear plan and a vision.
No need to even say, it worked perfectly.
Anonymous No.715379887 >>715380326
>>715379762
He is literally talking about legality you dense fuck. Using those samples is no less legal for him than it was for the people who used them in the original SNES games.
Anonymous No.715379982
>>715379705
They absolutely do need to be cleared
Anonymous No.715380027
mald
Anonymous No.715380121 >>715380669
>>715379778
because he himself has disclosed what plugins he used, and I doubt he would've known in 2015 that a lot of these soundtracks were made using the roland sound canvas. that's mostly recent knowledge.
Anonymous No.715380326 >>715380541
>>715379887
he's not using the sounds those instruments output, he's using the sounds ripped from the soundtracks that were composed using those instruments original output. and those were obviously fucking legal because they owned the sample cds. using pirated Kontakt libraries in commercial music also isn't legal, even though it's the same sound someone who owns the license would use. idk why this is difficult for you to understand.
Anonymous No.715380407
>>715367336 (OP)
Well, if you actually made the game you think Undertale was, it would've been shat on.
But that's because your schizophrenic delusions had you playing a game entirely dissimilar to the real thing.
That, or you're being a disingenuous fuck about it. But a disingenuous fuck can't make a truly good game either, can they?
Anonymous No.715380541 >>715380714 >>715380902
>>715380326
>they owned the sample cds
Said sample CDs would sample from songs without permission. There are likely a ton of copyright infringement layers.

And this discussion is bullshit anyway. Artistry should not be judged through the lens of legalism.
Anonymous No.715380669
>>715380121
>that's mostly recent knowledge
Really? I thought Roland Sound Canvas was the "industry standard" for computer composers in the 90s.
Anonymous No.715380714 >>715381059 >>715381326
>>715380541
True, it should be judged from the lens of creative hackism, through which UT is an extremely hack fraud game with a hack OST
Anonymous No.715380837 >>715381035
>>715377305
this has to be the stupidest, most niggerlicious collection of posts all year, congratulations
by your logic hip tanaka and keiichi suzuki must have fucking owned brian wilson making it illegal only when toby fox does it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiUmTUSbq0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDYy1l6TQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T8AROoIh44
Anonymous No.715380902
>>715380541
you are completely fucking wrong. sample cds such as spectrasonics distorted reality were completely originally produced by spectrasonics and then sold as CDs and THEN used by producers to make the songs you think they were stolen from. the same goes for the d50, Roland canvas etc. they CAME with these sounds and then were used in the music that would end up becoming popular. why do you say things with confidence that you are completely uninformed about? the samplers and sample CDs were the ORIGINAL sound sources, not the songs they're used in.
Anonymous No.715381035 >>715381216 >>715381221
>>715380837
okay and now look up the articles in which Nintendo execs have said multiple times that they were reluctant to release earthbound, especially in the west, precisely because of these samples. whoops!
Anonymous No.715381059 >>715381206
>>715380714
im sorry to hear toby fox raped your asshole wide, alex, but it's time to stop using the internet and start taking your meds
Anonymous No.715381206 >>715381317
>>715381059
>still no rebuttal to any of the arguments except "you got raped"
Guess Alexi s completely right, whoops!
Anonymous No.715381216
>>715381035
that doesn't have anything to do with your fucking braindead "you have to own synths to be able to sample them" retardation
just admit undertale makes you seethe due to some gay faggot culture war or wojak derived reason and be done with it because this song and dance was already fucking driven into the ground nearly a decade ago when you first tried it
Anonymous No.715381221
>>715381035
NTA, but did they violate any laws? Did they have to pay for it? I don't know shit about the US law, but given how enormously widespread sampling was among the underprivileged American youths making classic hip hop albums, it certainly seems like it couldn't have been that bad.
Anonymous No.715381317 >>715381363
>>715381206
medications time alex, go now before you start going after more sonic composers because they said bad things about you in your mind
Anonymous No.715381326 >>715381432
>>715380714
Most of the creative output throughout history boils down to artists iterating on what others have created before. Modern copyright laws indoctrinated us into thinking originality is more important than it actually is, one of the reasons that lead to the current subversive/deconstructive bullshit.
The end product is what matters, not how it was made.
Anonymous No.715381363 >>715381468
>>715381317
>still no rebuttal
Alex's arguments keep getting stronger by the hour!
Anonymous No.715381432 >>715381646
>>715381326
I already told you I don't care about legality, the games are just lazy and uninspired
Anonymous No.715381468 >>715381586
>>715381363
your schizophrenia keeps going stronger by the minute, and schizophrenic delusions shouldn't be acknowledged as anything but that, delusions,
so go take your meds alex
Anonymous No.715381473 >>715383159
Reminder that Toby doesn't give a shit about your opinions, or will ever acknowledge your existence at all, because he's too busy actually being rich and successful while (You) spend all your day seething about him on the mongolian basket weaving imageboard.
Anonymous No.715381503
>>715367336 (OP)
>no gameplay
>those touhou segments
Anonymous No.715381586 >>715381642
>>715381468
>STILL no argument
Amazing!
Anonymous No.715381642
>>715381586
>STILL schizophrenic
Amazong!
Anonymous No.715381646 >>715381834
>>715381432
so just admit that instead of acting like a neurotic kike and going for this route every single day for the last decade
Anonymous No.715381743
>>715367336 (OP)
>make a sloppy greentext thread that only can spew strawmen and bait for rage
>literally no arguments its just all bait
>hundreds of posts responding

Is /v/ really this gullible today? Wow.
Anonymous No.715381834
>>715381646
I haven't seen a single person claim Toby should be sued, that's all been kikey projection from his fans, the arguments were always about his creative merit
Anonymous No.715381940
>>715367336 (OP)
>black and white

What?

I figured the joke was that you were going to be complaining about OFF as a misdirection but even OFF is full of color.
Anonymous No.715382591 >>715382901
>>715368298
Hey, the schizo is back
Anonymous No.715382661 >>715382901
>>715378665
Servicemarks becomes too weak over time and when posted on the internet. You will not own a sample when everyone has access to it years after it after a machine has been rendered obsolete simply because it such a weak mark. Thus, it would not be plagiarism to not credit a sample taken from another song. I can sample any sound you make and you will not be able to do shit. It would be my recording and my file despite it coming from you. Furthermore, I could just edit the sample so that it becomes mine anyway, if I create a new recording of another song, what makes it theirs when I am the one who created the sound file? You can own an entire song, you can hold copyright for it, but holding a copyright of a sample is ridiculous concept since there is many roundabout ways I can make it so it isn't yours anymore but my own. If what you are complaining about would really be a legal matter, you'd think there would have been some legal actions, yet I haven't seen any. You're getting upset over nothing because you're salty Toby Fox found success despite using samples and simple melodies. I'm aware that taking a shot to the schizo who spams anti-toby threads is pissing in an ocean but I want to see your response.
Anonymous No.715382901 >>715383126
>>715382591
>>715382661
Why are UTfags under the impression only one person could ever dislike the game? Is it some sort of stunted development thing like how all Zeldafags think some dude named Eric is the only person who could ever dislike Zelda?
Anonymous No.715383057 >>715384212 >>715384534 >>715386894 >>715387512
>>715367336 (OP)
Finally a good thread!
Anonymous No.715383126 >>715383184
>>715382901
There is disliking UT then there is you who constantly act like Toby is some sly devil who stole everyone out of their money. Stop trying to blend as a simple "UT hater" when the thread has always made the same exact points and others noticed and called out your schizo behaviour about Toby Fox. Parasocialism is real and your hatred is misplaced because Toby doesn't even know you exist. All you do is shitting up a video game board and making discussion annoying for others like myself. Seek help.
Anonymous No.715383159
>>715381473
He also doesn't give a fuck about you troony
Anonymous No.715383183
>they/themussy
Do you think you can handle it?
Anonymous No.715383184 >>715383329
>>715383126
>then there is you
You're doing it again

>Parasocialism is real and your hatred is misplaced because Toby doesn't even know you exist
Mighty fine projeciton
Anonymous No.715383276 >>715383369 >>715384261 >>715384750 >>715389159
New theory; Femboy Kriss.
Anonymous No.715383329 >>715383617 >>715385235
>>715383184
Cope harder schizo. You can pretend others are projecting because you do it so much too. Stop being a hater, nobody likes you, for your criticism isn't even valid since you never argued against what was written about legal matters, despite it being the source of your irrational dislike of mister Fox.
Anonymous No.715383331
>>715369948
>Why pajeets
Good morning, saars.
Anonymous No.715383351 >>715383503
If it's so simple, why haven't you made your quirky earthbound clone about depression with characters made for tumblr that steals most of it's mechanics from other games?
Anonymous No.715383369
>>715383276
Thanks doc
Anonymous No.715383453 >>715384393 >>715388368
Anonymous No.715383503 >>715383561
>>715383351
It's no longer 10 years ago?
Anonymous No.715383561 >>715383760
>>715383503
Deltarune chapters released just a month ago and are still popular
Anonymous No.715383617 >>715383789
>>715383329
Just don't make a bot to hound and mass reply everyone who speaks ill of your game like the snoyric dude
Anonymous No.715383642
>>715367336 (OP)
>Regular JRPG
>Visual representation of an enemy
>Attacks are just animations tied to values, affected by stats
Unfortunately for you, that phone minigame has more going on than combat in 95% of JRPGs
Anonymous No.715383649
>tfw your games only value is the porn
>tfw thats what got furries and homestuck stans to play undertale because they saw one pic of toriel naked
>tfw you base deltarune characters off of hussie's family members and draw porn of them
Anonymous No.715383667 >>715383740 >>715384243 >>715384534
>>715367336 (OP)
gote sex
Anonymous No.715383740 >>715384243 >>715384534
>>715383667
Anonymous No.715383760 >>715384103
>>715383561
I'm just going to believe this is a troll post
Anonymous No.715383789
>>715383617
Even though you are the one who is spamming threads about Toby Fox being le criminal? Are you surprised people reply to you in a discussion when you clearly are talking to one person? Do you think every post is a different anon? Do you really believe I can't tell it's you who has been replying to me? Are your projecting again about the bot idea? Are you employing bots to spam anti Toby Fox threads? When you are called out, don't try to double down.
Anonymous No.715383857
sexoooo
Anonymous No.715383884
>>715367336 (OP)
Only if you have passion to finish your game.
Anonymous No.715383917 >>715384123
>>715367336 (OP)
>maybe if i call it tumblr this time i will finally fit in
Anonymous No.715383936
Anonymous No.715384068 >>715384123
>Kris, did you REALLY NEED to open the portal on top of your brothers magazine stash?
Anonymous No.715384103 >>715385129
>>715383760
>Haha undertale is so easy to make, its just a bunch of shitty sprites with stolen music and its a clone of another game!
>Why can't I make my own and also get millions? Uh... well it's the times, it wouldn't be popular...
So you're full of shit?
Anonymous No.715384123 >>715384241 >>715389587
>>715383917
>it's not tumblr
>two posts later >>715384068
lmao
Anonymous No.715384187 >>715390703
>>715377305
I'm still a ways off from releasing my game and I don't really intend on using soundfonts from games, but are you telling me even instrument packs can get me in trouble? I thought having to use cracked software was iffy enough, but at least no one can tell that.
Anonymous No.715384197
>>715367336 (OP)
Hag sex!
Anonymous No.715384207
>>715367336 (OP)
>black and white
???

>creepypastas, furry tumblr characters spewing ironic jokes, and subverting JRPGs
You have no idea what Undertale is. Always interesting that the people who hate Undertale and 90% of the people who love it have both never played the game.

>no gameplay
You are retarded.
Anonymous No.715384212
>>715383057

This will be the second game with a dead cute goat boy won't it
Anonymous No.715384241 >>715384283
>>715384123
>fan art being proof of anything
Try again, faggot.
Anonymous No.715384243
>>715383667
>>715383740
he's a town bicycle...
Anonymous No.715384261
>>715383276
I'd drink his milk
Anonymous No.715384273 >>715384342
>>715368298
There is no such thing as original art. All art is iterative, great artists steal, the only people who complain about this are morons who have never tried to create anything themselves.
Anonymous No.715384282
>>715367336 (OP)
>pic unrelated am omori
Anonymous No.715384283 >>715384368
>>715384241
>tumblr fanart of the tumblr characters in the tumblr games is not proof of anything
lmao
Anonymous No.715384284
>>715367336 (OP)
it would've flopped without homestuck, you need inbuilt audiences to do this. any streamer with a significant audience can do the same thing too but an ordinary dev cannot without huge luck (like their game getting randomly streamed)
Anonymous No.715384342
>>715384273
I do original art.

I even made up a new shape
Anonymous No.715384368 >>715384568
>>715384283
You calling it tumblr again won't make it any more tumblr, schizo.
Anonymous No.715384393 >>715384534 >>715388218
>>715383453
bulli the goat!
https://litter.catbox.moe/rm15kosy3n678sbd.png
Anonymous No.715384534 >>715384628 >>715384645 >>715386894 >>715387512 >>715388138
>>715383057
>>715383667
>>715383740
>>715384393
Why are goats such sluts?
Anonymous No.715384568 >>715384631
>>715384368
Laff worthy post
Anonymous No.715384613 >>715385156
>Toby didn't steal anything, what are you talking about?
>GOOD ARTISTS BORROW, GREAT ARTISTS STEAL!!

Which is it, Underfaggots?
Anonymous No.715384628 >>715386894
>>715384534
You know exactly why.
Anonymous No.715384631 >>715385268
>>715384568
Look away from your monitor for five seconds and realize that you are laughing alone like a retard.
Anonymous No.715384645
>>715384534
Cause they are Horny
Anonymous No.715384648 >>715384834
>he didn't rape the doe
Anonymous No.715384731
>>715379554
>The guy is clearly creating something novel
Kek, such as literally nothing. Well the name maybe?
Anonymous No.715384750
>>715383276
Anonymous No.715384834 >>715385041
>>715384648
I didn't because she is nice and I don't want to be mean to her
Anonymous No.715384917
Sex with Susie!
https://files.catbox.moe/hcoy3z.png
Anonymous No.715385041
>>715384834
She likes it in the end so it's fine
Anonymous No.715385069 >>715385116 >>715385146
Did this thread get shared on some furry discord?
Anonymous No.715385116
>>715385069
Yeah, it's called /v/ - Video Games.
Anonymous No.715385129
>>715384103
Why don't you make a game like Super Mario Bros and sell millions? It'd take literally 5 days with modern engines and assets, SMB sold 40 million copies
Anonymous No.715385146
>>715385069
this is just how they are
Anonymous No.715385156
>>715384613
It's trans rights are human rights
Anonymous No.715385187
>Did this thread get shared on some furry discord?
Anonymous No.715385235
>>715383329
Arrest yourself psycho
Anonymous No.715385268 >>715385386
>>715384631
You're the one that thinks UT isn't a tumblr game
Anonymous No.715385295 >>715385756
>>715367336 (OP)
You don't need to do WOWIE ZOWIE AMAZING LIFE CHANGERINO gameplay to make a good game, OP. What's important in the end is that you tell a story people can relate to, and a a good enough gameplay that makes sense in its context.
>>715368298
>>715368903
Everything is inspired by (or '''copied''', if you want to call it that) from something else. You have AAA games that make OST based on old orchestral classics, and no one calls it plagiarizing.
Anonymous No.715385360 >>715385783
HELP MY DOE DEFLATED!!?1
Anonymous No.715385386 >>715386595
>>715385268
You're the one who thinks it is one when in reality it is bigger than that.
Anonymous No.715385461 >>715389954
ok but he is totally secretly a slut, right? he's just feigning his total innocence and lack of experience, right???
Anonymous No.715385497 >>715386192
Anonymous No.715385631
Anonymous No.715385643
Could you at least post Undertale characters?
>>715367336 (OP)
>Was indie gamedev really this easy 10 years ago?
The scope of the game is what really makes gamedev difficult. Flash was what most people used for their small games a decade ago and there are a shit ton of those games.
Anonymous No.715385738 >>715385904 >>715386283
>>715368298
Did Undertale plagiarize Omega Flowey? It's still the most unique looking thing I've ever seen in any vidya.
Anonymous No.715385756 >>715386876
>>715385295
>What's important in the end is that you tell a story people can relate to
A lot of people can relate to.. stopping the underground monster king from committing human genocide?
Anonymous No.715385776 >>715385856
Anonymous No.715385783 >>715387261
>>715385360
I still don't get the appeal of this fetish.
>Yeah, I've always wanted to fuck you but as a pancake
Anonymous No.715385856 >>715385931 >>715386719 >>715389968
>>715385776
Anonymous No.715385904 >>715386257
>>715385738
It's just a mishmash of creepypasta trends at the time
Anonymous No.715385931 >>715385993 >>715386719
>>715385856
Anonymous No.715385993 >>715386176 >>715386719
>>715385931
Anonymous No.715386167 >>715386705 >>715386745
>Make a game by putting a bunch of tropes and elements from other games that you love because you love them
>Surprised that it's successful and resonates with a lot of people that also enjoy his inspirations
"""""plagirarism"""" or not, toby made this with his heart, obviously it's going to work.
Anonymous No.715386176
>>715385993
sexoooo
Anonymous No.715386192 >>715386283
>>715385497
There's a couple of inspirations. flowey is in part made by a guy named Everdraed
https://www.youtube.com/@cyriak/videos
Anonymous No.715386257 >>715388153
>>715385904
Wow, an artist being inspired by the things they like? Crazy!
Anonymous No.715386279 >>715386607 >>715386702
Why do zoomers get angry and defensive when you say anything remotely negative about Undertale or Deltarune?
Anonymous No.715386283
>>715386192
meant to reply to >>715385738
Anonymous No.715386451 >>715386624 >>715388342
>>715367336 (OP)
Consider hag
Anonymous No.715386595
>>715385386
Yeah the calarts gay furry game is in no way tumblr affiliated everyone knows that..
Anonymous No.715386607
>>715386279
>Lies and say dumb shit and pretend it's criticism
>Is surprised people calls out lies, dumb shit and the pretentiousness of it all
I don't know anon, maybe you should go kill yourself, that would help.
Anonymous No.715386624 >>715388342
>>715386451
Anonymous No.715386702 >>715386846
>>715386279
these games are one of those things that makes kids feel unique and so they make it into their entire personality (kinda like mlp, earthbound or homestuck). it's been ongoing for 10 years now so they have to defend it, otherwise people get to insult something that's now a significant percentage of their life
Anonymous No.715386705
>>715386167
Toby thinks hard enough about the media he likes that when he uses an element, it fits in with its surroundings as much as it is intended to.
Anonymous No.715386719
>>715385856
>>715385931
>>715385993
Made for bed breaking sex
Anonymous No.715386745
>>715386167
> "A writer needs confidence, doubt and irony poison a story"
Agreed. UT and DR are great because they're honest and genuine.
Anonymous No.715386846 >>715387203
>>715386702
Yeah that's why you're in the Undertale thread right? Because you hate it soooo much. Lol
Anonymous No.715386876 >>715387841
>>715385756
You can relate to the characters in general, their situation, the desire to know more about them and help them out, etc.
Anonymous No.715386894
>>715383057
>>715384534
>>715384628
Boywife!
Anonymous No.715386895
>>715367336 (OP)
>RPGMaker
It's a GameMaker Project. It is fundamentally impossible for it to be an RPGMaker project without a shitload of plugins or some kind of coding autism like 2k3's Maniac's Patch. But with that much work you might as well work with GameMaker instead.

>>715368298
>Complaining about Plagiarism
No one complains about Doom's OST being plagiarized to hell and back do they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y3RWlDz_AA


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Anonymous No.715386924 >>715387335
>>715367336 (OP)
Entire fanbase made up of tumblr transbians
Anonymous No.715387203 >>715387634
>>715386846
Calm down you dumb fag. I'm not the hating anon. I like these games for the puzzle/theory/mystery shit.

The games are undeniably gay furry pandering nonsense, but that's fine. The world would implode if everybody like gay or furry things. Not everybody will like it and it's better to make peace with it
Anonymous No.715387218 >>715387294 >>715387454
Molesting the deer
Anonymous No.715387261
>>715385783
yeah it would make more sense if she got sucked into a genie bottle
Anonymous No.715387294
>>715387218
Anonymous No.715387335
>>715386924
and zoomie femboys
Anonymous No.715387402 >>715387840
Anonymous No.715387454
>>715387218
>Showing off her doetail for the whole world to see and touch
What a slut
Anonymous No.715387512
>>715383057
>>715384534
Guess I'm going to coom some more then...
Anonymous No.715387634
>>715387203
>no I don't hate it I just think it's dumb gay nonsense that mostly appeals to tumblr and we should just accept that
Shit man, what am I supposed to say? Your argument dismantled itself.
Anonymous No.715387671 >>715389828
Reminder that everyone is falling in love with [you} and not kris.
This is a NTR game.
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>>715387402
Anonymous No.715387841 >>715388525
>>715386876
So it's a completely meaningless claim that amounts to "it's good because I like it"
Anonymous No.715387927 >>715388005
>>715367336 (OP)
Put your dih in the crazy!
Anonymous No.715388005 >>715388134
>>715387927
Anonymous No.715388134 >>715388509
>>715388005
Anonymous No.715388138
>>715384534
Sexoiiii
Anonymous No.715388153 >>715389617
>>715386257
Did you get instant amnesia or something? The post I was replying to said it was the most unique thing they ever seen
Anonymous No.715388218
>>715384393
It's not gay want to put my face is there and motorboat him, r-right?
Anonymous No.715388342
>>715386451
>>715386624
Snowhag sex!
Anonymous No.715388368
>>715383453
Dew it
Anonymous No.715388456
Anonymous No.715388509 >>715390306
>>715388134
Anonymous No.715388525 >>715388838
>>715387841
Is it bad because you don't like it?
Anonymous No.715388726 >>715389027 >>715389736
Dino breeding
Anonymous No.715388838
>>715388525
I'm not making any claims, I'm just saying your claims about why it succeeded don't seem very thought out or analytical
Anonymous No.715389027
>>715388726
Basete!
Anonymous No.715389136
he killed the thread, how shamefur...
Anonymous No.715389154 >>715389276
>Other thread got deleted
Anonymous No.715389159
>>715383276
Imagine....
Anonymous No.715389252 >>715390060 >>715390198
Anyways, I'll ask the same question since the thread died right after I posted it:
Just to verify and sorry for continuing this gender discussion shit, if the sex/gender is for the player to interpret, would it be correct for three people to assume a different answer between each other, that is, one believes Kris is male, another thinks Kris is female and the last says Kris is genderless (or non-binary considering who says this) and for all of them to be right because that is their assumption of Kris?
Anonymous No.715389276
>>715389154
There was another one?
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Anonymous No.715389416
sexoooo
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Anonymous No.715389587
>>715384123
>tumblr is sexy women
WTF BASED TUMBLR
Anonymous No.715389617 >>715389763
>>715388153
Something can be both Unique and inspired at the same time. There is no such thing as original art or original ideas. Photoshop Flowey is an incredibly unique idea, while simultaneously being inspired by creepy pasta tropes.
Anonymous No.715389735 >>715389789
Anonymous No.715389736
>>715388726
Now I am trying to imagine how Kris would actually react to the news.
>"Sucks to be you"
>"Hey dumbass, I'm not the one who's about to be killed by his mother!"
Anonymous No.715389763 >>715390656
>>715389617
I feel like you're twisting word definitions and logic itself just to heap pointless praise on this game
Anonymous No.715389789
>>715389735
Anonymous No.715389828
>>715387671
Just give me the hag, I'll let Kris have the rest.
Anonymous No.715389832 >>715389907 >>715389976
Anonymous No.715389903
>>715368298
He was 100% correct to steal from Touhou.
Anonymous No.715389907 >>715389976
>>715389832
Anonymous No.715389954
>>715385461
Ralsei is a gigachad and he fucks every female darkner in Castletown when we're away.
Anonymous No.715389968
>>715385856
Dess was a very bad influence on Kris. Her only example as a feminine rolemodel dressed up as a massive slut.
Anonymous No.715389976 >>715390136
>>715389832
>>715389907
Anonymous No.715390060
>>715389252
pretty much. if toby really wanted a certain interpretation, I feel he would've just done it or said it already, he didn't really beat around the bush with the knight bros being boyfriends, for example.
Anonymous No.715390105 >>715391439
Bros... Is the rape worth it?
Anonymous No.715390136
>>715389976
What do Apples symbolism? It's a recurring thing in their relationship.
Anonymous No.715390198
>>715389252
Yes. Kris is whoever you want him to be. He's not a blank slate, but in this element at least he's pretty open to interpretation.
Anonymous No.715390215 >>715390267 >>715390358 >>715390542 >>715390553 >>715390569 >>715390703 >>715391141 >>715391691
GUYS, WE ARE AUTOSAGED! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS! LET'S GET IT AT LEAST TO 300 REPLIES!
Anonymous No.715390267
>>715390215
I LOVE TV!
Anonymous No.715390272 >>715390371
Watch out!
Ferocious beast inside!
Anonymous No.715390306 >>715390467
>>715388509
Anonymous No.715390358
>>715390215
I LOVE TV
I LOVE VIDEO GAMES
Anonymous No.715390371
>>715390272
Don't scare me like that, you idiot!
Anonymous No.715390462 >>715390543
Chara!
Anonymous No.715390467 >>715390996 >>715391080
>>715390306
So, what's the better rebound for a divorced man with middle-age crisis - Thai ladyboy or his son's young teacher?
Anonymous No.715390484
hag sexoo
Anonymous No.715390542
>>715390215
Woo!
Anonymous No.715390543
>>715390462
She had to die to save the Underground.

She would have caused the end of all monsters by filling the underground with half human hybrids.
Anonymous No.715390553 >>715390714
>>715390215
I don't think I got it in me man, I'm...
I'm...
I'm old!
Anonymous No.715390569
>>715390215
I LOVE TV!
Anonymous No.715390656 >>715390723
>>715389763
Well the problem with the word "unique" is that the concept of something being "one of a kind" is debatable, but if it does exist, it's incredibly rare and incompatible with the concept of art.
Therefore either unique should never be used in an artistic context, or it has a different but similar in essence definition.
Something can be both "unique" and inspired at the same time in an artistic sense, but of course not by dictionary definition.
If we want to go by dictionary definition, then of course photoshop Flowey isn't "unique" or one of a kind, because there is no such thing as an original idea as all ideas have to be derived from something, but it is the first time that a game has attempted such a concept and been successful enough at portraying that concept to persist in the public consciousness, which does give it merit.

If I was just trying to praise Undertale, I would be praising the narrative writing and character writing. My point is that there's more to art than who came up with something first.
Anonymous No.715390703
>>715390215
uhh uhh please help >>715384187
can I get in big trouble for the instruments I use to compose music
Anonymous No.715390714 >>715390810
>>715390553
Anonymous No.715390723 >>715391417
>>715390656
ChatGPT reply
Anonymous No.715390810
>>715390714
The variations just don't stop
Anonymous No.715390996
>>715390467
Well Mad Mew Mew's a shut-in and Alphys is mostly thinking about getting on with Undyne so uh, I dunno they're both kinda bad options
Anonymous No.715391074 >>715391335
I want time travel to be a thing by chapter 6.
Anonymous No.715391080
>>715390467
Carol.
Anonymous No.715391141
>>715390215
I FUARKING LOVE KINO TV
Anonymous No.715391335 >>715391715
>>715391074
that'll be a bitch to deal with
Anonymous No.715391417
>>715390723
>talking about art = ai
sub100 zoomer.
Anonymous No.715391439 >>715391620
>>715390105
It's not rape if she decides that it was worth it after all.
That's why you gotta take responsibility etc.
Anonymous No.715391593
tumblr game
Anonymous No.715391620
>>715391439
>t.
Anonymous No.715391676 >>715391702
Close, but no cigar
Anonymous No.715391691
>>715390215
I… love… TV…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=suXer2ObCG8
Anonymous No.715391702
>>715391676
furfag
Anonymous No.715391715
>>715391335
Eggs and shards between saves seems to be a very important value for later, so there has to be some kind of connection with previous chapters interacting eventually.