I decided to read and still didn't understand.

>>715374798 (OP)
don't worry about it
I haven't seen a pendulum card in months that isn't ryu-ge.

>>715374798 (OP)
That deck is bad, so you don't need to know what it does. You will probably win anyways.

>>715374798 (OP)
live service is AIDS, games need to have a lifespan just like us mortals because it always turns into convoluted shit like this

>>715375369
...or just do rotations?

>>715375369
>convoluted
It's not even that complicated he has like 3 relevant effects plus a bonus effect that rarely triggers

if a card has more text than this then I'm not reading it

Keywords make reading cards so easy, yugioh should implement it.

>>715375756
I've never understood how key words fix anything
You just have to go read a glossary to get the effect that could have been on the card to begin with

>>715375369
yugioh was basically unplayable for its first few years, also OP card is like 6 years old at this point and hasn't been relevant in fucking ever. Even then it was like "relevant" in the sense of being arguably 5th best deck of the format. Decks like salad, that were actually good, were also less wordy.

>>715375909
Because they are bold on the card and you always see the same keywords over and over again.

>>715374798 (OP)
Another one filtered by le big scary words.
>As Pendulum: Remove 6 counters from your field, summon from pendulum zone to monster zone and destroy the same amount, acquire counters by each card destroyed.
>As monster: Cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effect as long it has counters. If a spell or trap is activated, return a card with spell counters and negate and destroy, then absorb the counters of that card sent back. If destroyed by battle, search for a normal spell from your deck
Nigga, it literally has two important effects and also being unable to be destroyed by effects, with 2800atk, the destroyed by battle effect rarely happens.

>>715374798 (OP)
After reading it properly for the first time this seems like a neat card
Is the archetype of this card fun?

>Elegant
>Simple
>Gets the job done

>>715376451
this card is playable now, if you squint a little

>>715375369
>it have ton of text therefore is broken

That's not how it works.

>>715375909
Took Konami like 20 years to incorporate "piercing" into their vernacular. They're probably afraid of newbs being turned off by glossary terms but the paragraphs is a running joke and has been for years and I argue that turns off new players even more

>>715376443
Define fun.

It use pends as anchor for spell counters, which is old ass mechanic btw, then use said counters do do whatever. Aside pend cards, deck is just a big ass draw engine to give consistency and counters.

Pain in the ass to play irl.

>>715376443
Yes but it's really bad right now, hasn't recieved support in ages.
Some people make it work but it's more trouble than its worth

>>715376761
a little bit of that, but also a litle bit of nobody wants to read all that shit regardless, we just trying to play a silly japanese card game

back in the kaiba, yugi, and joey starter deck days you can teach anyone to play/follow the game you just have to describe the sacrifice mechanic (tribute summon) and that's it pretty much... now all that time can be spent understanding 1 card like this Endymion feller

idk i was and still am oblivious to the proper way the game is played so i was always using some house-rules, but it worked

>>715374798 (OP)
What was the exact moment the TCG started going downhill?

>>715377327
Maxx C

Which was around 2010.

>>715377327
After Edison

>>715377327
Six samurai

>>715377291
Endymion explain exactly what it does. Problem with TGC formatting is lack of bullet points that OGC have.

People complain but konami don't want fix, even on MD which is simulator therefore no need to reprint cards.

>>715377327
It got consistently better and better until Pends were added, then they started doing insane shit with Links and the MR4 fiasco
It's recovered since then though and besides a couple horrible formats is in mostly a good place

what deck are you going to use for the under 5 event?

>>715376443
It's just one of those decks that masturbates by itself in the corner and hopes to win by putting up enough negates going first. It's a spell counter and a pendulum deck meaning you get to run basically 0 nonengine, doubling down on being a solitaire pile. When it works, it gets to draw and add a ton before ending on several negations attached to large monsters. Going second it can blow up boards and OTK, but due to running 0 nonengine, it is probably not going to succeed outside of against bricked hands or gassing through low to the ground decks. It is also, thankfully, garbage.

>>715377839
Goblins

>>715374798 (OP)
I don't read pendulum slop either. I either negate Electmute or scoop.

Stall/Burn is still viable meta in 2025.

>>715377327
blue cards like Relinquished and the man-eating hamburger
or
Ojama Yellow

>>715377801
Pends did fuck all, and pepe only had 15 minutes of fame, specially on TGC.

Shaddol fusion fucked up everything and raised power ceiling massively.

>>715376806
It's also a problem of there being so many slightly different effects. They can make "Indestructable" a keyword, but then it'd need to specify:
>indestructible by effect
>indestructible by battle
>indestructible by opponent's cards
>indestructible by all cards
>indestructible by all cards except "X" cards
>indestructible by anything else I'm forgetting or they decide to add in the future
It's not reasonable to make a different keyword for all of these, so they'd have to write it out. And at that point, why even go through the bother of not just writing "cannot be destroyed"?

>>715377801
i feel like there are more bad formats than good ones, this current format being a bad one

>>715374798 (OP)
>no one card starters
Don't worry about it. His archetype is unplayable garbage now.

>>715377931
Modern decks are hyper consistent and downright ignore handtraps besides turn ending ones.

Turn 2 decks need pray for shuffler give breakers or bug. Days of back and forth plays are long gone. Also then current meta punish handtrapping.

>>715375909
My brother in christ the game already is a lawyer game where not even a tenth of what's going on is printed on the card. If that was an issue you wouldn't be playing yugioh. Nobody is going to shit their pants just because hard once per turn is a keyword now.

>>715378843
>not even a tenth of what's going on is printed on the card
????

>>715377327
Series 12, starting with Duelist Nexus. Power of the Elements was indeed bullshit, but one card combos started to truly get out of hand starting with Emergency! and the Sinful Spoils storyline.

>>715378843
>not even a tenth of what's going on is printed on the card
This is wrong. It's very rare that you need to check out card specific rulings. The reason keywords DON'T work very well in Yugioh is because of how specifically the cards specify what they do. You just need to actually understand the rules. Pretty much every single time someone posts their idea of how they'd add keywords to a card they end up changing how the card functions.

>>715378825
I don't think endy was ever a back and forth deck. We also just had a format with multiple good back and forth decks in master duel. That was ruined by malice, but desu lancea minigame format is more "interactive" than an endy mirror would be.

>>715377327
XYZ being generic enough to be made with literally any 2 monsters that have the same level was the beginning of the end. The game was still good, but it was a slow descent into hell after that. By the time spyral format happened powercreep had gotten so out of hand that the game wasn't fun anymore. It's just inevitable when you refuse to have a rotating format, but even mtg powercreep is insane nowadays so maybe even that wouldn't have worked.

>>715379032
Endymion never was meta, just another feast or famine deck, archetype breaker is good but even back on release it wasn't doing much.

Pends are unplayable due ton of factors, MR4, handtrap turbo, and needing 2-3 cards to even start a combo is asking to lose as now.

>>715379009
The rules in question (half of that are damage step rules)
And that's the point. There's a gorillion game mechanic intricacies that you already have to be aware in order to understand this game so I find it hard to believe that anyone would really care if things got simplified just like "FLIP: " means "if this monster is changed from face down defense position to face up defense position or face up attack position"

>>715379339
I would care in cases where it changes the way cards interact because being able to find those edge cases where you can gain an advantage through niche interactions is where a lot of the fun in the game comes from.
Being a noob/casual who doesn't want to bother learning the rules isn't a good argument for why a game should be dumbed down.

>>715379252
>Rotation
>Fixing powercreep

Retard.

FREE HER

>>715379561
>i'm going to stop reading the post halfway through and reply
retard

>>715376806
>piercing
If this is what people mean when they say keywords then I guess I get it, there ARE a few very wordy effects that could be shortened.
Rescue Ace CONTAIN! always springs to mind
>it cannot be used as material for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link Summon.
It's not out of the question that they could introduce an "Extra Deck Summon" term to cover all of them.

But at the same time does it really matter? Feels like this is an issue for Konami more than players, they've only shortened text in the past for their own benefit of saving space rather than for us.

>>715379662
Retard

>>715379314
just gotta print more fun and interactive modern support card pends that suck your dick and remove most of the pend problems, like with the shs or melodious support

>>715379838
>>it cannot be used as material for a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link Summon.

Problem is that we always get new ED summons.

>>715378162
Those are 15 minutes more than needed so stuff like electrumite belong in jail forever

>>715379530
Do you shit your pants whenever you read a card containing any of these?
>quick effect
>banish
>flip
>piercing
>excavate

>>715380030
Electrumite is banned because tewart is perma butthurt about it , OGC have and MD have astrograph at 3.

Doing nothing per usual.

>>715380006
SHS don't even touch pend summon ,if ever slap any sort of pend support.

DDD and solfa got support which is excellent but current meta is just that stupid and decks can't catch up.

>>715379608
...

>>715375253
>That deck is bad
t. low IQ

>>715380148
If you think that some current keywords existing means that they can elegantly wrap 90% of effects up into keywords then that just means you don't know much about the game.
Again: I would care in cases where it changes the way cards interact. Since you seem too dumb to realize what this implies: I would not care in cases where it does not change the way cards interact, like the ones you listed.

>>715380530
>elegantly wrap 90% of effects up
Anon this is what I said
>Nobody is going to shit their pants just because hard once per turn is a keyword now.

>>715380148
Can you name any current mechanics that could be shortened into a keyword without changing its effect? Or even just give examples of cards with the changes you want to see?

>>715380630
I wouldn't touch text but having small icon for stuff like GY, Quick effect, scale and such would make text less clogged.

>>715380509
You are going second.

>>715380601
Yeah, I'd be fine with that specific change. But it sure didn't sound like you only wanted one or two changes like that.

>>715380737
>dark ruler no more
>get 6 spell counters for endymion
>destroy all your cards
>win
nice game yugiohbab

>Give me da good ol ygo
>WTF why people are raping me with multi solemn and actual combos instead of using summoned skull + axe of despair.

>>715380850
>dark ruler
>in master duel
kek

>>715380850
>Roach format
>Dark ruler

Lel, lmao even.

>>715380850
>dark ruler
Lol, lmao even

>>715380850
>dark ruler no more
Nigga the BDIF's default endboard plays around DRNM entirely.

>>715380905
I only play honest low tier decks in old formats and people still seethe for some reason. I think people just hate fun.

>>715381470
Because actual strategy and gameplay, dumb cunts just want a glorified anime episode that have epic draws and drag for no reason. Also both sides use incoherent piles.

Miserable duel incoming

>>715380630
>>715380834
I honestly wouldn't really change that much past properly utilizing "hard once per turn" to get rid of two lines on every single card. And I think the fundamental issue with this game's readability is not on the lack of keywords but on how the little room on the card text box there is to properly display the effects, partly because of horrible formating and unnecesary verbosity. Master duel is much better because each effect on a card is on a new paragraph. Ash blossom is one of the easiest cards to read in the game becasue there's actually space for its text and the card uses bullet points.
On the western card text the effects are weirdly mixed for some reason instead of always starting with a sentence teling you which effects are only once per turn like on the ocg but that's another issue.
The way to go in my opinion is trimming down unnecesary wording on card text. A small but noticeable example: Every single card with an ignition effect says (cost) "You can <cost to activate>; <effect>". Why? Get rid of the "You can", just say "Discard this card; " (for example). Every card has like five unnecesary "you can" written all over it. Funnily enough the famous hard once per turn also use the "you can".
I am aware that if "you can" is on the effect resolution and then you have the option to not do it if you decide not to, like primite roar. You can "not summon" the monster on resolution if you want (maybe you got maxx c'd). But what's the point of saying "you can" on the effect cost activation. Lmao of course you can, and you can not, but if you don't then you're not using the card.

But if you're asking which things I would keyword, sure. Just like "banish" is "remove from play" there's not that much to gain using these, but "unaffected by other card's effects" is an easy one. But as I insist, it's not about keywording the entire card text but usage of smart language economy to be brief.

>>715377839
the loaner
unfortunately none of my decks works

>>715382762
>what's the point of saying "you can" on the effect cost activation. Lmao of course you can, and you can not, but if you don't then you're not using the card.
It matters for trigger effects, but I don't see any reason not to remove it from ignition effects, yeah. They probably just don't want to create any confusion leading to players thinking those effects are mandatory or something stupid.

"Unaffected" is already essentially a keyword for "this card is not affected by", but it runs into this problem
>>715378651
There are cards unaffected by other cards, unaffected by other card's activated effects, your opponent's cards, card effects except "X" cards, etc and they're all different.

>>715374798 (OP)
I don't like anything past 5ds, even synchro shit is pushing it.
I liked duel links back when it was just old cards.

>>715374798 (OP)
People act like this is the average yugioh card but in reality this isn't even the average pendulum card. Cards like Endymion or Astrograph are the outliers.

What happens with cards sent to banishment when you trigger Lancea?
For example, you activate Deep Sea Minstrel and they chain Lancea, if you select a Maliss card from their hand is it sent to GY instead or what?
Or something simple, Dimensional FIssure is on then you trigger Lancea, so are cards sent to GY?

>>715387431
>Dimensional Fissure
they are sent to the graveyard
>Ministrel
The card won't be banished and will stay in hand

>>715387431
>For example, you activate Deep Sea Minstrel and they chain Lancea
In that case you get to look in their hand, select a card, then nothing happens.

>>715379838
Banish is also a keyword.
The only comparable line to piercing and banish you could keyword is "send to the GY" which was actually an oudated term in MTG, bury.
It would actually help clarify some cards like D.D. Crow, which say discard but actually need to go to the GY to activate, unlike normal discards which don't care where they go.

>>715388735
DD crow already explicitly says it needs to go to the GY on it
how could it possibly be clarified by removing the mention of the GY?

>>715379252
Xyz had huge caveats though:
>Xyz monsters usually didn't have high ATK or DEF
>they lost their effects when they ran out of materials
>Monsters whose effect triggers when they leave the field weren't triggered by Xyz Summon and depending on the effect type they would lose timing when sent to GY after being material
>some had bad effects that hurt the user (like Number 39 killing itself)
>Special Summoning was still special for the most part
The real problem began with the free searches and summons. The real degenerate shit began with Pendulum and the game died with Links.

The formats between Synchro and early Xyz were the best YGO has ever been.

Guys I'm too stupid to play chimera

>>715390826
get to a fusion spell and go from there

>>715374798 (OP)
>game is literally decided on draw
>hostage retards still shill it 24/7 on /v/

maliss is here and i am back on yubel eternal favorite and super poly are the name of the game, alt art yubel cards and a mate when konami.

>>715390826
I kept playing and people scoop the second I have a fiendsmith line. I might pivot to live twin FS

>>715388735
>It would actually help clarify some cards like D.D. Crow, which say discard but actually need to go to the GY to activate, unlike normal discards which don't care where they go.
If you made a new keyword for "send to the GY" which would be reasonable to do and you then changed D.D. Crow to use that keyword instead of "Discard to the GY" you would be changing the functionality of the card.

>>715389678
Xyz monsters did not have huge caveats
>Xyz monsters usually DID have high ATK and DEF
>Limited effects meant fucking nothing because the game ended too fast for it be a factor or because your opponent would remove or negate them anyway.
>Got even worse as Xyz effects became stupidly powerful as time went on going from blanket negates like Fire Fist Tiger King to full on "You can't play" effects like Shockmaster
>Made even worse by Xyz Monsters that didn't need Material to use effects like Galaxy Eyes Dark Matter or Titanic Galaxy
>3rd point is irrelevant and did not matter in the slightest outside of not being able to use certain older generic good stuff
>special summoning during early xyz was not special, the end of the synchro era had you barfing out extra deck fodder like it was nothing which carried into the xyz era as all you needed now was two monsters with the same level which was stupidily easy.

Pendulum Format only really accelerated the inherent problems of Xyz by providing an even more braindead R4 spam engine in the form of PePe. Pendulum summoning itself was a fucking joke outside of a relative handful of decks all of which only really made use of the recurrsion engine of pendulum and nothing else. The best decks for most of that era weren't even pendulums.

>>715392164
You're mixing late Xyz formats with early Xyz. At the beginning Xyz wasn't like that. Games weren't over in 3 turns either.

>>715392389
It was like that, games were over in around 3 to 4 turns because OTKing was easier by the end of the synchro era.

>>715386667
Im a hardcore Yugi boomer but even I can see goat format is pretty scuffed. The fucking card pool is like 100 cards

>>715377839
argostars, don't know what to do in the extra deck

>>715392510
Yes, Synchro were much more powerful than Xyz. By the late Xyz era Synchro just couldn't compete anymore. The powercreep during the Xyz era was gigantic (of course it was nothing compared to the bullshit we have since Link) that's why I say that early Xyz monsters were balanced.

>>715374798 (OP)
>putting a card as the OP image
>putting Master Duel in the thread title
>body unrelated to vidya
Fuckig retard, enjoy your 3 days.

so what is the deck you keep coming back to after playing with the flavor of the month for me it's yubel and to a much lesser extent mikanko i just like the 0 attack monsters play-style.

>>715392727
The first batch of every new summoning mechanic is the most balanced because they're designed to be simple by nature so players can get used to them and so Konami R&D knows what sort of shit they can get away with developing. The problem with Xyz summoning was that unlike synchro and fusion which had to be built around specifically Xyz can be thrown into literally any deck that can put out two bodies with the same level meaning all it really did in the early days was powercreep already strong synchro decks by giving them even more potential options to use.

>>715391738
>>715393030
In this Fusion x Link event I beat a DC top 1000 player using Yubel (video still processing):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJEkp0YCmRo

>BEWDfag starts timestalling
Jej

no leaks?

>>715393675
we dont get leaks anymore
HE has been compromised

>>715392632
It was good until people figured out how broken chaos turbo is. GX is ruined by a plague of OTKs and crush card, later on DAD and glad beasts+lightsworn just turn it into a shitty version of edison.

>>715380850
>Destroy my board
>Rebuild it on my turn with my set up graveyard but even stronger
Lol

>>715393314
>Do my turn
>Click auto clicker
>Go do dish
>Come back to click "negate"
>Repeat

Diamond 1 Memento now, Master V let's goo

>>715395221
qrd on Synchron recent support

>Astellar and Elzette of the White Forest
>Dancing Fairy
>Dimonno Vaalmonica
>Ebon Magician Curran, White Magician Pikeru
>Esper Girl
>Ghost Mourner & Moonlit Chill, Ghost Ogre & Snow Rabbit, Ghost Reaper & Winter Cherries, Ghost Belle & Haunted Mansion, and Ghost Sister & Spooky Dogwood
>Ghostrick Doll
>Hypnosister
>Madolche Petingcessoeur, Magileine, Anjelly, and Puddingcess
>Saambell the Summoner
>Traptrix Sera, Allomerus, Cularia, Nepenthes, Rafflesia
>Witchcrafter Potterie and Madame Verre
>Wynn The Wind Charmer, Hiita The Fire Charmer, Eria The Water Charmer
How does my purchase list look so far? Any other cute loli monsters I'm missing?
Surprised there isn't a TCG thread on /toy/ otherwise I'd ask there.

>>715395906
Nemurelia is the obvious one. Do you really hate Angello and Aussa that much to leave them out?
Curran+Pikeru archetype when?

>>715396143
>Dreaming Nemleria
This is incredible art! Thanks! I only had safebooru as my source to find new cards and not every creature has fanart so this one completely slipped past. She's absurdly adorable. That's like a crown jewel type of cute.
>Do you really hate Aussa that much?
Yes. While she may be loli I don't think she's very cute. Sorry Aussa.
Angello I didn't know about. Added to the cart! Hard to tell sometimes when monsters belong to an archetype or not.
Added Sunvine Maiden and Garden Rose Maiden as well.
Also, it sucks that Maiden in Love doesn't exist. I always thought she was really cute.

>spoiler
If only. If a new archetype happens I fully expect new magician colors as well.

>>715380850
lol
lmao

I have no idea how to play Maliss but I somehow manage to break a full RDA/Centuron slop combo and kill them in the same turn. what a dumb deck.

>>715397469
>this deck is so strong because I beat an untiered rogue deck

mapiss really did kill MD

>>715395906
Doll Monster Miss Mädchen is bretty cute too. also esper girl has a retrain called serene psychic girl. it has a butt shot

>>715397726
he will save it

Dear yugioh players: Stop being fat.

>>715377169
Does "that you could can place a spell counter on" mean the card has to have its own ability to place spell counters on itself?

>>715397743
>Doll Monster Miss Mädchen
That's not bretty cute that's fucking adorable.
I thank you kindly.
Seren Butt Girl's butt is pretty nice but she's a bit too evolved to fit in with the rest of them.

The cutes just keep coming! Thank goodness all these cards are $0.05 or less.

>>715398134
how about loris, lady of lament?

>>715377327
Synchros easily, infernities, six samurai's, or some synchro slop designed to turbo out 3 Quasars made most people quit the game.

>>715375756
Every effect in yugioh is different, keywords won't work, why don't retards realize this? This ain't MTG where 500 creatures have trample and flying.

>>715398646
>Every effect in yugioh is different
lol

>>715398430
Absolutely yes!
I'd display her right next to this one.

I definitely came to the right place here on /v/.

>>715398704
>>715398646
I think both of you are correct to some extent.

There are a lot of effects that can be keyworded, like sopt/hopt or search or bounce or mill.
But there are variants of these complicate things, like "add to hand or banish" or "add to hand or set" etc., and stuff like "can attack up to twice per turn" vs "can attack on monsters up to twice per turn", and stuff like once per chain vs once per duel vs once per turn vs twice per turn vs thrice per turn etc.

But it's still worth it to make keywords regardless of that.
If it's common enough, keyword it, if it's a weird variant, spell it out.

>Exodia (forcibly) attacks into Phantom of Yubel
>activates (optionally) Exodia's 8000 ATK gain in the damage step

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_RPTKxNIK87t=40s

>Indian misclicks in paper
How the fuck do you ACCIDENTALLY activate an effect?

cute

>>715399662
did it glow yellow irl too?

>puts super poly back in the deck to draw one
>is a light fiend
I fucking kneel

>>715399662
>malice player misclicks IRL and throws up the finals
he was so fucking tilted

I just started MD and I don't understand how any of the event decks work
Wouldn't the game benefit from having a training mode where you can learn the event decks? I assume the only people who use them are people who don't have cards to build decks for the events, which should mean people who are just starting out.

>>715399871
Here you go buddy.
https://www.youtube.com/@F2PWGamer/videos

>>715399871
This guy teaches how to play event decks:
https://www.youtube.com/@F2PWGamer/videos

>>715399993
>how to play the dm loaner
>slap two dudes make verte dragoon pass and hope

>>715399807
yeah, just what i want, to link off my big dude into a dumpy requiem

>>715399274
Aside from simplifying hard once per turn text, even with the stuff that would be simple to keyword, it wouldn't even make a sizable dent in the text boxes. You can replace "send to the GY" with "entomb" and you're saving 8 characters including the spaces. Great.
Who does it actually help to replace "send from the deck to the GY" with "bury"? Because as an experienced player, I'm not reading those effects word by word, I'm essentially glancing at that chunk of sentence I've already read a thousand times and understanding it as a big compound word already. All it seems like it'd really do is make the text boxes a bit prettier.

It just seems like an aesthetic suggestion rather than a rational one.

>>715400132
That's understandable. Requiem is a powerful monster.

>>715395221
I just fought Memento deck on Diamond going second and it aged me 10 years, they literally played more on my turn than Teartrannies and it took ages filled with cancerous effects

>>715400132
magnum already served his purpose by replacing himself and popping something, and desire is a bigger dude that negates things

>they're not running Fusion Sage so they can both draw with Magnum AND still keep his destruction live off of one "Fusion" card

Purrely Horny Memory

>>715400689
But that requires you to run OG Poly doesn't it? Seems kinda bricky.

>>715401838
It's obviously not good. It's just funny that it gives such a worthless ancient card a use. Running a Frightfur Patchwork package makes more sense.

>>715377839
I'm going to lose 100 matches but I'll make some people suffer

>Typhon won meta weekly

I think it's time to go back to master rule 4.

>>715402538
No, that clearly says Zeus won.

>>715402793
LMAO

What is the best loaner for the under 5 event

>>715400298
>Because as an experienced player, I'm not reading those effects word by word, I'm essentially glancing at that chunk of sentence I've already read a thousand times and understanding it as a big compound word already.
It would skip the phase of becoming that "experienced player", since keywords would just exist rather than a new player having to intuit that they do so in a tacit and poorly templated fashion.

>>715403720
Naturia. The Materiactor one doesn't have nearly enough hand traps in a deck whose whole gimmick is adding hand traps to their hand, and the Suship deck is a Suship deck.

>>715403720
naturia

>>715403720
Probably Naturia...?

>>715403873
New players can read the effects. Otherwise they have to look up what those keywords actually mean, and memorize extra jargon.

The text would be fine if we just got OCG text formatting.

>>715404010
>>715403873
There are many intuitive keywords, like "search", "bury", etc.
The game has already introduced keywords like "piercing" and "banish".
The soft/hard once per turn clauses can be replaced by symbols, with the "once/twice/thrice" replaced with numbers.

>>715395906
>>715396143
cute...
go on...

>>715398080
Yes but also no.

>>715404974
>'le sovlfvl human art not like that ai trash"

>>715405041
Schizophrenic?

>>715405101
No, that's a cat.

>>715405041
Autistic?

>>715404762
piercing and banish aren't keywords, they are effects

>if this card attacks under X condition, deal piercing damage
>if this EFFECT happens under X condition, banish card

keywords don't work on YGO, specially now, since cards with powerful effects need to be extremely detailed on how their work to avoid any kind of abuse

>>715405506
>piercing and banish aren't keywords
Zoomie detected.

>>715405497
>>715405132

>>715405506
>piercing and banish aren't keywords
yes they are you retard

>>715405681
this is not the gotcha you think it is, retard

>>715405767
Yes, it is, zoomie.

>>715380630
On summon effects are probably the biggest I can think of. You'd need a symbol though the could show if it's needed to be special summon, normal summoned, or both. Not sure if it's woth the trouble. Discard from hand effects are probably another big one, but most of the cards that have those aren't really that wordy.

If you still need a whole ass sentence around your "keyword" it's not a keyword.

>>715405930
Who are you talking to?

>mtg has keywords
>every single card printed in a new player product still writes out what each keyword does on the card anyway
This is like people saying YGO should take rotation from MtG when the most popular MtG formats are eternal formats. Keywords and rotation were both mistakes.

>>715380530
>where it changes the way cards interact
at first i wanted to call you a retard for even suggesting that keywords condensing conventional effects would change the technicalities
but then i recalled that konami writes errata on a whim and there would probably be legit confusion as to whether the old or the new templating is actually *correct*

>>715398134
Surprised someone recommended Madchen, but not Princess Cologne who is from the same archetype.

>>715406102
>keywords were a mistake
You are not going to sit here and say with a straight face that every single card with all 1400 cards with trample should actually have
>This creature can deal excess combat damage to the player or planeswalker it’s attacking.
instead of a 7 letter word. Keywords in yugioh wouldn't work for a variety of reasons. That does not mean that keywords don't work in magic.
The only thing I would argue Yugioh could take from Magic is the templating where each different thing is broken out into different lines, which JP Yugioh already does anyways.

>>715405506
How am I supposed to know what piercing does without reading it from an out side source?

>>715407484
Same way you know how spell speeds work

>>715407484
How am I supposed to know what summoning means without reading it from an out side source?

>>715407484
Same way you know how extra deck summoning works.

>>715406102
keywords work on magic because cards have 2 effects, 3 tops, with some descriptive text

YGO cards can do 6 things at the same time

>>715407484
>Hey man what does piercing do again
>Oh it makes my attack over your defense count as battle damage
>Oh ok thanks

>>715407553
>>715407582
>>715407583
You proved his point.
Those are all keywords.

>>715404097
>OCG
This. Every time I look at a card and get confused I look up the oct formating and it instantly clicks. I have no fucking clue why they don't do bullet points

>>715407654
None of those are keywords thoughbeit.

>>715407637
(You) are an outside source Anon. But thank you, very helpful.

>>715407738
NP :)
It is both players duty to keep an accurate board state

keywords wouldnt make a difference in yugioh at this point. theres a lot of shit that works differently depending on the wording in the card.
like this one for example. her protection its very specific.

>>715407654
Spell speed is a rule thing, but cards don't really talk about it so that doesn't really make sense as a comparison. (Quick-Effect) does though. People aren't keywords, that Anon is just a silly Billy. Special summon is a keyword.

>>715407719
"Take two monsters from your field and put them in the graveyard then place one fusion monster from your extra deck on the field in face-up attack position or face-up defense position" has the keyword "fusion summon".

>>715407919
Is there a different keyword for when it's three monsters? Is there a different one when it's from deck instead of the field? What about if it's the opponent's field?

>>715407860
Keywords would likely be a detriment since it would put the game more on rails
>Hey we should give this card he proof
>But like conditional hexproof
>Ok then just write it out
>Defeats the purpose of the keyword
It also might push designers to go with keywords rather than specific effects

>>715406871
princess CUTE

>>715408009
Quite a retarded move of you to try to avoid addressing the point.

>>715399662
>mfw he couldn't help but to redeem

>>715408031
She's really cute, it's a shame her deck is really bad and won't get any support until Konami feels like remembering ZEXAL.

the problem is the formatting, not the amount of words.

>>715408084
I accept your concession.

>>715408114
This is why you only play casuals with close friends.

>>715408135
You already conceded by avoiding addressing the point.
You used the keyword "what about" to do so.

Is every MtG player a brainlet? Their complaints about YGO are always either
>too many words
or
>numbers too big

>>715407919
"from your field" and "on the field" are also a keywords, since you could pick or put monsters from/on the graveyard or from/on the banish pile

"extra deck" is a keyword because you can get fusion monsters from the GY or the banish pile

anything can be a keyword

>>715408195

>>715377327
Gemini Twins
4star 1900 ATK cancer

>>715408292
Exactly! That's the whole fucking point!

If you're summing up many words that describe an action into far fewer words... that's a fucking keyword.

>>715408026
>It also might push designers to go with keywords rather than specific effects
This is more or less why I think Yugioh should avoid more keywords (it does in fact have them, you nogs saying otherwise are silly) but it is a legitimate handicap when it comes to designing stuff in unique forms which YGO loves to do. Magic has a bad habit of having to many key words for one set effects that they explain on the card anyways since it's not an established effect yet.

>>715377327
The first banlist.

>>715408273
>Is every MtG player a brainlet
Yes. The real problem with Yu-Gi-Oh isn't the card text it's "ok what in this deck do I actually need to care about"

>>715408385
This. Unerata my homie CED

>>715408273
Yugio could've cut off a 0 from everything and it would mostly be the same. Cards ending on single digit non zero numbers have wicked souls.

>>715408385
No hand control is a fucking awful concept.
>>715408532
But also this. I don't care if he has to stay banned. His current state is a downright crime. He's already indirectly needed by the rules changes anyways.

>>715408535
>Cards ending on single digit non zero numbers have wicked souls
There isn't any in the entire game. The ones with wierd "tens" digits are the jank ones

>>715408385
I have to wonder what early yugioh would've been like without a banlist. So many broken cards like cold wave that never saw use, because even more broken cards existed.

>>715408658
>I don't care if he has to stay banned
I want him freed because outside inconsistent no fun allowed gimmick decks he is completely fine at 3. I want to see pain in the other players eyes as I hand rip them and burn them for retarded damage

>>715408728
A funnier question would be without errata at all. People forget last will was very early on not a once per turn effect.

>>715408659
Huh, I think you're right. I could sworn there was like one jank vanilla ending with a five or something.

>>715408995
I mean that's a given, if it was "back then". I'm just curious about how the meta would've developed with weird side deck choices and whatever.

>>715408772
There's no alway he'd not good. He'd probably lead to some of the most consistent otks we've seen as a finisher. Like imagine running him in trickstar or something.

>>715408659
>>715408535
BOO!!

>>715408658
>>715408772
>Just realized CED is a massive Max c punish
F R E E H I M

>>715409398
that still ends in 0 bwo...

>>715409398
That's exactly what I said. That's the tens column not the ones

>>715409486
>>715409645
why are you retardos reading this as trying to contradict you and not as an example of a jank card with a weird tens digit

>>715409956
what does that have to do with anything?

>>715409448
>gets veiled because you gave your opponent 20 cards

>>715410115
sumimasen, i did not realize you had the memory of a goldfish

Ryzeal when?

>>715408376
>that they explain on the card anyways since it's not an established effect yet
And then completely ignore as soon as the set is over

>>715410296
good morning sir

>>715410520
ohio, india-jin

Mating Pressing Purrely

>>715377327
when it separated its limit regulation from OCG in an attempt to become its own thing.

Is Raye still the protagonist of Master Duel?

>>715410156
>Summon another because CRD isn't hard once per turn
>B-but I do it again
I simply loop CED
Nutting personal

>>715411948
Never was. Ash Blossom still rules with an iron grip.

>>715411948
Never was, Albaz and Ecclesia are considering how long Branded has remained relevant.

the epic mind of a Maliss player

>>715406936

>>715409574
pantsu

>>715410193
Sir thats a boy

>>715377327
when you could do boring ass combos turn 1 that put people to sleep

>>715412875
You're late. She has boobs now.

I'M SEETHING

>>715412998
Lmao where?

>>715413332
Thank god for people on the DM deck made this fusion event quick.

>>715413897
In my mouth.

>>715377801
>the game started shitting itself once Zexal ended
Accurate. Meanwhile, Zexal-era Yu-Gi-Oh! was the last comfy era of Yu-Gi-Oh! and coincidentally happened right before Tumblr started fucking things up for the world

The last two new boxes were boring and gay as fuck.
Gimme more synchrons already.

>>715413332
God I love undersidefrontboob.

>>715410360
Yeah, funny enough I thought of bring it up but it felt too snarky.

It's weird playing the events and seeing people who have a bunch of DC cup 2nd stage titles, then they end up playing one of the awful+boring loaners like the Dark Magician one. Maybe they're people who never build anything but meta decks and have nothing legal for the event, or who just got really unlucky with the decks they like not being legal, but man.

>>715417054
Not my fault the decks i like end up also being meta bro i only pick whats fun and honest

>>715417217
Funny you say that, because somehow, invariably, the top decks always turn out to be the most boring to play. Ryzeal seems even more boring than maliss.

>>715417217
>>715417520
Branded was always fun.
Tenpai was always fun.

>win going second missions
>under level 5 event
It's literally made for Lyrilusc.

>>715417520
There are some neat decks that end up being the best. But even the coolest deck gets boring after seeing it for the 100th time in a week.

>>715377327
When Links happened.

>>715417771
>"even the coolest deck gets boring after seeing it for the 100th time in a week"
>"seeing it"
>not "playing it"
Reading comprehension wa doko?

>>715417890
Yes, I play against a meta deck over and over and any desire to play it myself goes away. You should work on your own reading comprehension before insulting others. Also there's no need to use は there.

>>715412875
>>715413897
>Let me be a fag in peace!

$13 total to fill up my Yu-Gi-Uoh binder.
Sorry Elzette but you're going to have to wait until you're way down in price.

Thanks again for the help and suggestions, gentlemen.

>>715418361
You should be apologizing to Astellar for making her lonely.

Purrely Erotic Memory

>>715418474
Cute!
But
>spells and traps
Not sure if my autism cares about non-monsters yet. I'd have to focus on the ones that aren't mixed with not lolis.

Astellar will be fine she'll have lots of other magician friends until Elzette comes.

>>715418474

>>715415895
I mean in some cases its warrented since they're kinda ass like revving engines or kinda just stronger than what they're based on like manifest dread.

Leaked banlist was ass.

I just tried resonators thanks to the recent structure deck and I like it and I've seen people use it with centur-ion (which I also like a lot), is it as good as it sounds or is the 60 deck size with resonator and a small Centur-ion and bystial engine not worth it?

>>715418960
what is it?

Why do you not read you heathens? Are you illiterate?

>>715419567
Lightning Conger to 1.

Do you approve of cats and birds getting together?

>>715419838
I do read
I don't play pends because they're gay regardless

>>715419838
You're insufferable.

>>715419567
White rabbit didnt dead

>>715374798 (OP)
If you read it and you didn't understand it with just one reading then you're a low IQ retard

>>715420367
Post the banlist.

>>715374798 (OP)
Just stack tokens on your side of the field and negate/pop shit

This spook the american.

>>715413332
ere ya go

>>715421060
>This spook
How's the weather in Delhi?

>>715421060
Pendfagd seething is why I want her banned.

>>715421320
Electrumite could be at 3 and still wouldn't do anything.

>>715421602
I know. I just want pend homos to suffer and cry

>>715421118
thanks anon

https://files.catbox.moe/x269ld.png

gaylord

>>715425279
Taylored

Where did you HOES all go?

>>715375756
Yugioh does have keywording, though. That's the reason that you can just glance at a card to get a general idea of what it does. We just don't do the MtG thing where you have a bunch of random keywords that either mean a lot of different things rolled up into one word, or mean a single thing wherein they force you to pull out their glossary just to convey that a Flying creature can't be blocked, by non-Flying/Reach creatures.

What this game could stand to do is adopt some of the OCG's terminology and maybe condense a few terms. For example, the OCG doesn't describe the overlay procedure on the cards like AA-Zeus and Ariseheart do in the west. It doesn't have the reminder text to transfer cards. It just straight-up tells you to take one card, and overlay it on those cards. They don't fully type out a card's name when talking about HOPT restrictions, they just say "this card name". Problem is that the localizers in the west want to make things complicated on purpose because they hate us and have an axe to grind.

>>>/vg/
Fuck off back to your containment board.

>>715427735
Certainly not playing malice duel

>10 days
>maliss is nowhere to be seen on untapped
I'll rape the next anon saying their stats are trustworthy, what a piece of shit

the real crime maliss has committed is making everyone main deck the lance they keep lancing my called by the max c mini game was bad befor this now it's worse.

>>715428651
I will touch you

>>715430208
Just play board breaker Sky Sissy Tenpai and don't give a shit about Maxx "C".

>>715429832

>>715431265
>Just play board breaker
I do i play the old super poly version with mature chronicle and eternal favorite.

tsukuyomi is girl?

>>715432695
>the counterpart of sun that symbolize masculinity or yang is a moon/ female/ yin?
I dunno anon you tell me

I opened a Century Bonanza box, did I get anything good? I don't play, I just like collecting the cards.

>>715432903
These ones had the 25 symbol, I assume they are the rarest.

>>715432903
the alt art one for one are the best cards there.

>>715432951
The engage is worth a lot.

>>715377327
Pendulums