It's weird how everybody believes Kris hates the SOUL in a normal route when they're comfortable enough around us to do this. This isn't the face of somebody seething over being possessed.

>>715378361 (OP)
HE BEAT ME WITH A HOCKEY STICK

Kris and Soul are bros. Dpng

smush Ralsei's you-know-what

You kinda gotta admit how weird and creepy it is that she constantly forced Kris to go on adventures in the woods with her and all, where nobody could see or hear them...

>>715378425
they/them*

>>715378425
It was just business anon, please understand. For reasons undisclosed, the Fun Gang absolutely cannot get into the bunker.

Anyone else think Susie probing Noelle about Kris in the Ferris wheel is because she's developing a crush on Kris and wanted to make sure Noelle is not feeling romantic toward him?

>>715378425
some people would pay good money for that, anon

>>715378361 (OP)
femboy goat breeding

>>715378425
it doesn't even hurt you you big fucking baby

>>715377985
>>By the time we hit Berdly, Kris was in full * Proceed mode just as much as Noelle was, and their reaction to Berdly was basically YES! KILL!
Wrong. The dialogue choices before the fight disprove this. It's Kris giving you a chance to back out again and again. NTM when he goes down, it's your voice pushing Noelle to do the spell. There is no "kill mode" for Kris here. That's (You).

>shaggy hair
>dark personality
>baggy clothes
Reminder the only reason the doe likes snoozie is because she reminds her of the old Kris. When Kris shows himself to her again she tries to make out with him.

>>715378496
>has a special bond with Kris
>spent a ton of time making up RPGs with Kris
>what you've mentioned
Interesting...

>>715378361 (OP)
>noo you can't heckin' make me have friends and go on adventures and flirt with the cute furboi you have to let me be a weird loner!
Too bad, play this minigame slave

Gay goat sex

i woke up this morning with an actual schizo theory that kris wearing the horn headband to be more like his family was a silver bullet to him being a boy because female boss monsters don't have horns
then i remembered i was just fucking wrong and misremembering what toriel's sprites looks like

>>715378473
i wish 99% of femboys and trannies werent ugly, insufferable, and autistic because the general aesthetic is hot as fuck.

I practiced piano my whole life SO WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GAME IMPLYING I CAN'T PLAY PIANO. My only guess and I saw someone type this one, it's that Kris is so spiteful that he won't LET the Soul play piano well since it's "his" thing and if that's true, adding to the things that I find dumb about Deltarune, then Kris can go fucking die.

>>715378361 (OP)
Finally a good thread!

>>715378567
Does Toby make the goat boy attractive on purpose??

>>715378703
Piano is special to the dude so yeah no fuck u

>>715378751
Toby knows
He always knows

>>715378703
You VWLL duet with Kris by the end of the game and you WILL call it sovlful.

so what's with the /vg/-style goatboy dumping going on?

>>715378660
the biggest piece of hard evidence for female kris is the princess ribbon, everything else is just interesting coincidences and thematic speculation
nobody can wear the gloves except for kris even if they can equip it, and noelle specifically says that kris can wear the gloves even if she can't
i highly doubt male kris would have dainty girl hands even if he is a manlet

Consider

>>715378920
play a different game if you dont like it

belly

>>715378690
In real life, the more normal-looking people are the most attractive of the bunch.
But in 2D you just kinda need to tweak a few things, or simply give them a fur, and bam, the subtly-girly boy is now the most kissable being on the planet. It's funny how that works.

>>715378496
>obsessed with little Kris, the only human boy in town
>tons of red heart shaped objects in her closet, obsessed with them just like her mother
>constantly hiding in closets everywhere like a pervert
what's her goddamn deal?

>>715378925
or, you know, he's trans passing

>>715378927
They look good in a dress

>>715378920
This is what happens when you keep making threads even after a month.

>>715378927

>>715379017
>a straight pedophile
lmao yeah sounds about right

>>715378920
OP here. If I knew it'd be this bad I would've cropped Ralsei out of my post.

>>715378751
>>715378854
so how long until hes outed as a kemonoshota fan who only made constant references to fluffy boys and hot ralsei moments because he desperately wanted to do the same to asriel in ut

>>715379002
Human girl tummy...

>>715378703
We can't even make Kris face diagonally and you think you have enough fine control through whatever bullshit magic Gaster setup the soul is working with to play the piano through Kris?

>the OFF reference with the titan spawns being [purified]
>we do the same shit to fountains as we close them
>the titan's theme being [GUARDIAN]
>in OFF: the guardians of the three zones
>the [guardians/fountains] are responsible for giving their [zones/dark] worlds form
the dark worlds arent completely fake, ralsei says they are but
>he's present in castle town when the two arent (actually works on improving it)
>he stays behind when the two leave (doesnt hop into kris's pocket like lancer or roulx)
>so he cant be on either of their persons
>he says that he traveled from the closet to the library himself
>it takes forever for him to show up in susie's dark world, if he was on them he'd be there near the start
we'll get the chance to go back to former dark worlds at some point.
they'll be in states of extreme disrepair/active decay and completely devoid of all life except for darkners we didnt recruit (who might be visually fucked in some way as well)

>>715378920
It's Sunday. Gays got nowhere to be and nothing to do.

>>715379110
peDOEphile*

>>715379031
trannies are infamous for having man hands though
and the description for the princess ribbon's gloves are that they are very delicate
no way a male could wear them without breaking them

>>715378361 (OP)
Kris is just tsundere.

>>715378927
the dress suits him

>>715379195
im sure that sounded cuter in your head

>>715379159
Why can't human girls be real bros...

>>715379163
kris only stands diagonally for she

>>715379163
So Gaster's device sucks? But seriously, you know know that partition you're supposed to play in Chapter 4. If you play all of it correctly, Kris will intentionally mess up the last note regardless, so it's not about that and I really think it's more of a fuckboy's spite.

>>715379278
I don't know... I wish they were, man...

>>715378589
Oh, it absolutely is all (You). I'm not trying to say that you weren't the driving force behind Snowgrave, you 200% were. But Kris was complicit. It only happened because they decided to look the other way. They've repeatedly shown that - even in the weird route - they're the final arbiter of what we can and can't do. If they really wanted to stop Snowgrave, they'd have taken away our choices completely instead of even letting the * Proceed prompt appear at all. And once you hit the final part? The Check dialogue that Kris has control over all but tells you to hit Berdly with Snowgrave. You've brought out the worst part of them to the surface, and now it's acfively cheering you on.

SUSIE IS MADE FOR hugs

heh

>>715379250
>im
AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>715378361 (OP)
You have done your homework for your Chapter 5+ theories, right /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OYFlaTfuJY

>>715378361 (OP)
Okay, and when he forcefully throws in the cage at the end of ch1? It's more likely that he is actually seething but chooses to not resist us most of the time, than your scenario.

>>715379154
Ralsei's not a creep!! At least not that much...

>>715379361
calling it now, susie will give kris the fabled susie hug to stop him from killing himself or something else equally terrible

>>715379361
First hug then the fug

>>715379453
they/them

>>715379426
Does this video include the undeniable fact that Dess is a vicious pedoephile?

>>715379426
This guy can hardly be called a theorist.

>>715379291
We've only got seven buttons to work with and can't even hear what Kris says. Either Gaster sucks at this or the setup wasn't meant for anything other than the vessel.

Consider
https://litter.catbox.moe/djt8t5pan4objo3z.png

>>715379178
Yeah sealing dark worlds definitely gives a similar vibe of purifying zones in OFF.

Also
>in undertale, gaining LV is bad
>sealing fountains is how your LV goes up in deltarune

>>715379453

>>715379064
What happens specifically is you get resident schizos like the susellefag who tries to "correct" people who call Kris a he.

>>715379486
It will be was/were

>>715379587
they/them
maybe play the game

Another HIM btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEdoMoV4D6k

>>715379342
>Kris was complicit
Snowgrave can happen while Kris is unconscious, this is something the game specifically accounts for
>even in the weird route - they're the final arbiter of what we can and can't do
This is plainly not true
>If they really wanted to stop Snowgrave, they'd have taken away our choices completely
Kris does not have control over the game's systems
>The Check dialogue that Kris has control over
Kris is not the narrator

>>715379558
eh, your dark world LV is explicitly referred to as "fakeLV" in the code.

>>715378586
Our endurance has nothing to do with Kris's actions, which show his intent.

>>715379660
meds now.

>>715379486
they/thussy*

>>715378820
Uuuhhhh.... Why do you have pillow of my boywife?

the more the game progreses, the more and more I feel that light world Kris and dark world Kris really are different characters entirely and it's not just 'for fun' that light world Kris wears Chara's shirt while dark world Kris uses Frisk's shirt as a cape. All kinds of scenes like this, dialogue like 'park your butt mister' and the automatic hug at the end of ch4, and overall just a crazy amount of positive, even lovey-dovey interactions with Ralsei, whereas light world Kris is such an asshole, absolutely every single pinch of info we get about them is that they are an absolute gremlinoid freak who has never existed for any purpose other than to torment people and cause chaos, whose obsession with Susie is much more prominent and displayed in the Light World, who tears us out and beats us up and acts like a fucked up imp at any opportunity no matter HOW we act to them or try to earn their trust or "only say what they would say in that situation" in the dark world. Also it feels like our opportunities to say or do much or act in any way are limited in the light world compared to dark, and some of the few things we *can* do like throw away the ball of junk has Kris acting like they're going to fucking die if they do it whereas darkworld Kris wouldn't bat an eye at us throwing away every single item that comprises it one after the other.

Idk what Toby's coking with all that or how it could possibly lead to a satisfying conclusion to Kris as an overall character but he's not let me down before, so I'll let him continue.

>>715379694
if you dont like toby's game try playing something you enjoy then

>>715378703
do you normally practice playing the piano by interdimensionally possessing the body of an angsty goblin adolescent and controlling his body with a keyboard?

>>715379664
DELETE THIS

>>715379435
Yeah, but that's before this scene. I think Kris starts warming up to us as they get more and more invested in the adventure.

>>715379660
My research has revealed that many of the "folx" use multiple pronouns, and it has not been confirmed that Kris does not in fact go by they/them in addition to she, he, it, ect.

>>715379759
Toby calls you a faggot in secret.

>>715379689
Depends what's fake about it. It does correspond with your stats going up.

>>715379564
Did you know that this popular image of Berdly correcting Kris's pronouns is based on a CG of the Higurashi When They Cry?
I guess tranny games take inspiration from other tranny games huh?

>>715379789
why did you make kris a fat peruvian?

lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uNCpA3stio

>>715378361 (OP)
>he didn't flip off the camera

>>715378703
Chapter 4 added microphone support, Chapter 5 needs to add MIDI support.

>>715379486
>>715379564
fuck off

all my niggas heil gaster (NIGGA HEIL GASTER)

>>715379513
I think focusing on what we know to be true and figuring out what follows from that is better theorizing than throwing random shit at the wall without caring how it actually fits into the puzzle

>>715379842
all of the dark world stats are referred to as fake.

gote sexooo

>>715379587
>Avatarfagging and metafaggotery.
Exactly.

>>715379828
kris does
>>715379831
lmao stop coping

>>715379884
Maybe he's a janny trying to destroy our threads.

Who fucking cares if Kris is a boy or a girl?
If he’s a boy, he’s a chad to self insert as
If she’s a girl, she’s a hot tomboy to fuck
It’s a win either way

>>715379851
that's how the they/them crowd see Kris

pic related is how yumejoshi and chuds see HIM

>creepy smiling cat who follows you throughout the game
>more commonly known by a title than his name
>is french
is friend just the judge?

>>715380007
>yumejoshi and chuds
so non-mentally ill people

>>715379016
>In real life, the more normal-looking people are the most attractive of the bunch
eh, wasnt really what i was implying.
a lot of femboys/trannies, whether you believe the "ive always felt like a girl" or not, are generally undesirable as men but also lack the genes to present well as women, nevermind their fashion sense and personal upkeep. doesnt help that nowadays going fem is like being developed in unity, where its so easy to get started that the public assumption that the end result will be shit and low effort.
like you said, 2d can fix anything, but there are times where i genuinely consider putting up with the interpersonal and societal headache just to experience the shit you will almost never get with a woman.

>>715379742
This can be explained by the SOUL having more control in the Dark World, and that being Frisk's SOUL. Or just that WE are just nice like that, too.

boi sex

>>715380069
>chooses rape route
>im sane

>>715380069
yeah but it's funny to use buzzwords here

>>715379906
But Andrew doesn't do the later part, hence not a theorist.

>>715380118
Bulge sex

>>715380048
Chara’s familiar

>>715380120
>im

>>715380128
>a straight woman raped me
>this is good
chuds have a hard time reading

sex with onion-san female

>chara
>frisk
>>deltarune

>>715380120
My wife Chara made me do it
She said we should destroy this pointless world (undertale) then move to the next

Why did they do it?

I think there's going to be more than 7 chapters.

generals belong on /vg/

kris if gurl

>>715378703
You can play the melody after Kris did it, so yes, Kris was actively stopping you from doing it.

>>715380225
Holiday poster... SAVE THIS THREAD

>>715379545
>FemKris
CRINGE
Kris is MALE. As in CHRIS-MAS is based on a male Savior

>>715380207
Kekaroo

>>715380007
for me, this is what kris looks like
probably with more of a bush though, i doubt kris would shave it

>>715380281
he made a promise

Call it, will Frisk/Chara appear in any capacity in this game?

>>715380312

The goat

>>715378703
(spoilers for recent, manga-only One Piece stuff if anyone cares)
there's been a ton of really weirdly coincidental ways recent One Piece has felt like it's mirrored some aspects of Deltarune beyond the latter just being so heavily on my brain lately, most of which is directly tied with this new character named Loki that, for example, was born with little devil horns and 'evil eyes' everyone hates him for and has him hide, and was treated so inhumanely that he utterly gave up on the entire concept on love from a very young age, all very Kris-like to me -- but beyond that, the latest chapter showed that despite feeling and being MADE to feel so alien and 'other' to his own people, he has sone thing going for him, one thing they treat him well about and respect him for, his pure royal blood. So whenever he sees his half-brother, technically also a prince, all he can do is lash out that he's a mud-blood and his mother's bloodline is filthy, and attacks him if he tries to confront him. The prince-hood and pure royal blood is *ALL* he has, the ONLY thing giving him ANY worth in this world, and anything that threatens to take even THAT away from him can go straight to hell..
I think that's Kris with the piano. Even if we suck, Kris doesn't want us to play it much, and when we're forced to do so for a longer stretch during the grand piano long song puzzle the lil dude spazzes out and "shows us how it's done".

>>715378361 (OP)
So continuing from the previous thread, I think I FINALLY realized what it is about Kris apparently not stopping us from doing Snowgrave that bothers me, and it might be for an unorthodox reason.

Unless Kris is actually THAT suicidal deep down (and in such a way that's very barely shown in-game, I can only think about that one dialogue choice with Queen in Chapter 2 where Susie asks why Kris sounds so excited when you select "Perish"), I can't really buy the idea that Kris is actually just allowing us to embark on a route that is very clearly going to result in him suffering some kind of personality death, physical death, or even some significantly worse existential kind of death; "You were used up" and all. Shit's not looking good for the little blue bastard at all as we continue down the route.

And I'm not saying that Kris unanimously hates it, assuming ERAM isn't an unreliable narrator, but a small part of him enjoying the violence (whether it's because of the feeling of gaining some kind of control over his shitty life back, because Berdly is actually just that fucking annoying, etc.) sounds different than "Yeah, I actually allow the route that is going to fucking destroy me six ways from Sunday.", especially given that the fact that ERAM has dialogue specifically for when you've done Weird Route in Chapter 2 that makes it clear that Kris should KNOW that he's getting put on the chopping block soon.

>>715378925
Deltarune is Toby's ultimate lesbian fetish wish fulfillment game

>>715379693
His intent is for you to not ruin the plans that you don't know about and he can't speak to you so this is what it has to be

>>715380371
Kris is Chara

>>715379867
Microphone support?

>>715380312
Is anyone here going to talk about video games?

>>715380269
>let’s destroy this pointless world AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT
S rank door game 1 is an analogy for undertale
S rank door game 2 is an analogy for deltarune
S rank door game 3 uhhh probably spoiler stuff

>>715380397

>>715380297
You belong in the trash

>>715380281
HE's on a secret mission, HIS mission/pact/promise with Carol and Dess will be fully revealed in due time.

I guess everyone got all the actual game discussion out of their system with the last thread so now we're just stuck with the imagedumping faggots on vacation from /vg/

>>715380343
kris is a unisex name of greek origin, him being referred to as krismas is a fun quirk of the holiday family unless that's actually his name which is also funny
as far as we are aware jesus isn't in deltarune, unless the angel religion had a jesus-like figure called kris that our kris is named after

>>715380515
Ma'am, this is /vee/. We don't do that here.

>>715378361 (OP)
I like the depictions of them with a Tom & Jerry type relationship.

>>715380571
there was a discussion post like 2 minutes ago you abominable baby

>>715380281
toriel did it

>>715380442
you are starting to see the truth

>>715380607
imagine posting this when it goes against what toby believes and still thinking you love this game

>>715380607
Snowgrave Noelle will do this in front of Susie in Chapter 5 btw

Watch out!
There's a ferocious monster on the loose!

>>715380312
>>715380397
The thought of ralsei hanging out alone with this and Susie is unbelievably hot

>>715380717
snowgrave noelle was raped by YOU and kris is a victim

>>715380696
you don't have to agree with the game dev about everything

>>715380663
BASED, SAVE THIS HORRIBLE THREAD

>>715380397
Made for bed breaking sex

>>715380607
My tradwife noelle..

>>715380416
Kris doesn't stop you because they can't stop you. You are in the driver's seat. You chose to make this happen. Anyone saying otherwise is just pushing responsibility onto Kris for the buttons that they pressed like the same people do with Chara in Undertale, but this time they're even stupider when we have a character who could not be more clearly opposed to what we're using their body to do.

Why is the demon heart crying?
Is it because the blood is gushing bright?

>>715380481
Yes. You can use a microphone for the Mike battles. You control stuff with your volume.

>>715380410
Eternal reminder that all fanart of Kris acting cute with Tenna is wrong, Kris in reality hates him and sees him as nothing more than a disposable tool for his plan with the main villain
He deserves Sans, little freak

>>715380845
>because they
He. Go back.

>>715378925
I mean jackenstein literally tried to humiliate Kris by making him wear a tutu.
That and Tenna’s "pushing buddies" joke.
Also the prophecy calling Susie "the girl".

>>715380787
Right, Toby just put pronouns in the game and made it a point that youre a rapist for what you're doing to noelle and kris for no reason

Breed the dino

This might be a dumb question, but, what is Shadowguy in the light world?

>>715380932
>>>/pol/

>>715380856
It found out chapter 5 is releasing in December like Kris used to.

>>715380932
they/them*

>>715378361 (OP)
Why are they emoting towards me instead of the camera?

>>715380994
yes you'll fit right in with your dogshit posts

>>715380442
The Kris-centered harem is canon. The harem just happens to have a doe and a dinosaur that occasionally scissor while the BHC is occupied with one his many other anthro women, all of which he is divinely obligated to impregnate.

>>715380993
Cookie cutter

>>715380947
Kris needs to trust the plan.

>>715380941
jack is a goofball, he probably thinks tutu's are just humiliating in general
i don't know how pushing buddies is meant to be taken sexually
susie being the girl in the prophesy is obviously a misdirection due to her over eagerness for actually being important, if you remember the requirement you'll realize that noelle and especially kris fit the description much more than susie

>>715380985
https://litter.catbox.moe/oclm3ha3w5ntg1xv.png

>>715380993
my only guesses are that they're either old VHS tapes or burn in ("shadows" on the screen)

>>715380994
It can’t possibly be because monsters know jack shit about humans and are therefore impossible to determine Kris’ sex

I'll only refer to Kris as a male and refer to him as such. You cannot stop me :3

>>715380993
The little figurines in the windows

>>715380312
>>715380397
Imagine...

>>715380993
the fully body cuffs for little dudes
the gingerbread men and monster cookie cutters