Why is cheating so stigmatized in online games?

>twitter screenshot of a tiktok post
the absolute state of /v/

>>715434084 (OP)
its against the rules OP

any other questions youd like me to forward to chatgpt?

>>715434084 (OP)
so what is a cronus?

>>715434084 (OP)
Imagine going to a marathon but the guy right next to you is riding a scooter

>>715434216
Get used to it, it will only get worse.

you are free to play against other cheaters when I go do something else or worthwile. You did this to yourself ( hvh filled matches ).

>>715434236
Okay? Terms of service aren't law, isn't that the point of stop killing games?

are consolebabs really in need of cheats when their aim assist already does that?

>>715434084 (OP)
A game in which one or more participants cheat is no longer a game.

>>715434246
lets you use scripts on a controller, or use a mouse and get aim assist by pretending to be a controller

The user was probably just using pre-programmed scripts that compensated for recoil

>>715434365
they can take away your service if you get caught retard

>>715434365
>gibberish
please think your post over before you send it

i still don't understand why niggers cheat
back in the day it was to troll but that isn't the case anymore, so why?

>>715434412
That's totally fair, which is why you should never cheat on your main

>>715434084 (OP)
>gamepad
>consoles
>FPS
>cheating

>>715434247
more like one guy has shoes with hidden roller blades

>>715434470
People cheat because it's fun

>>715434470
It's dey calcha

>>715434084 (OP)
>99% of players are cheaters
>any type of human communication gets you a permaban

I legit don't get why do people still play PvP slop nowadays. It's pretty much fighting against impossible bots. Just play any other genre

>>715434531
It's not fun, it's mind numbing.

>>715434470
Some people only care about winning.

>>715434531
you didn't get any wins, some software did
if you don't care about self improvement then don't play videogames

>>715434470
It's either
>I must succeed no matter what
or
>I have fun making people angry

>>715434247
>>715434523
>go to marathon
>guy next to you is "cheating" with a scooter or roller blades
>it doesn't stop you from running your race
>it doesn't invalidate your personal sense of achievement for completing the race
>both people get to enjoy themselves
This doesn't explain why cheating is bad at all. Like I get it would be a problem if done in an official competition with high stakes like an eSports tournament, but we're talking about normal ladder matches

Controllers with Aim assist is already cheating though.

>>715434803
most retarded post i've read in a while
i really hope you're baiting

>>715434747
It could be argued I won through superior tactics, e.g. using the best tools at my disposal.
>if you don't care about self improvement then don't play videogames
Why would you care about improving at a skill that has no real life application?

>>715434803
it's a secret advantage you give yourself that others dont have, it's against the rules of friendly competition on a level playing field

>>715434803
At that point it's not a marathon anymore.

>>715434875
Explain what's wrong with it then

>>715434882
you're brown lol

>>715434084 (OP)
Multiplayer gaming is about being on the same playing field and cheating breaks that.
When I see someone go 20/0 it's cool knowing they practiced a lot and one day maybe I'll be able to do the same. When I see some dude with the Epic Sword of Anal Raping, it's cool to know they put 300 hours into the game to get it.
This is also why microtransactions, even for convenience fucking suck, because nowadays I see some guy with the Epic Sword of Anal Raping and I don't know if they played for 300 hours or they just bought it by converting $300 into game currency or boosts or bots or what the fuck ever.

>>715434803
Define a game and cheating.

>>715434084 (OP)
because you are taking one thing from people that they can never get back.
time.
you should hang if you cheat in competitive environment because you are a liability to humanity. your genes are weak and should be excluded from the pool.

>>715434940
You race the way you want to race, I race the way I want to race. Do you need everyone else to behave in the exact way you want for you to have a good time? Were you an only child growing up?

Because getting stomped by a cheater who then tells you that either you need to skill the fuck up while laughing at you or that you'll never be on their level when you just want to enjoy the game and get better at your own pace is fucking rancid.

>>715434365
No one is saying law you retard.
It is against the RULES, the rules that the developers put down and the TOS that you agree to say you will follow.

You break the rules, you get banned from playing the game.
Not hard to comprehend.
Most cheaters know they are breaking the rules and don't try any of this mental gymnastics you are doing you literal faggot.

>>715434470
I did it for a while a long time ago because of the reactions. Completely rage hacking in BF4 was a lot of fun, a few people even made videos and posted them on youtube of me and random strangers were actually defending me spinning 360 and shooting dudes who were under water half a mile away. The worst that ever happened was they reset my stats.
It was even funnier in Siege because it was so unbelievably blatant but that devs did not start banning people for months. Good times.

>>715434803
>go to a food eating competition
>the guy next to you is throwing the food away while pretending to be eating
>go to a casino to play poker
>the guy next to you placed cameras all over the place and can see the cards of everyone
>play russian roulette
>the guy next to you removed the bullet before pulling the trigger, and then fully loaded the gun before passing it to you

>>715434803
Cheating invalidates the concept of equity. Both players are playing on equal footing but that doesn't mean they have equal opportunity. One player has a clear advantage while the other has to work twice or even three times harder to compete. For a competition to be fairly executed, everyone has to meet each other halfway based on the game's rules, performance enhancing gear and other kinds of abuse invalidate the purpose of going to practice, joining the playoffs, even winning at a major venue.

fucking zoomers have no idea how to cheat properly anymore

>>715434990
For the purposes of this discussion, a game could be defined as a competition to perform a predetermined task or set of tasks. Cheating is the ability to perform those tasks through a method that your opponent is either unaware of or unable to perform himself

>>715434470
Other anons already explained the trolling aspect of it but there's another reason and it's simply that for some people their rank validates them as a person. Their rank is how much they're worth. They would do anything to be top 500 or whatever.

>>715434747
It's not about winning, it's about being able to do it at all. You're playing god with unlimited power and can do anything and everything.
It's why good old games simply had the cheat codes built in the games.

why do cheating cucks always resort to semantics despite knowing that they are fully wrong? it is always so baffling when someone has to excuse their behavior for everything

>>715435148
A game is a competition under a set of arbitrary rules.
A cheating is a violation of the rules.
If the rules are violated, the competition is no longer under the rules, and is thus no longer a game.

>>715434084 (OP)
How bad do you have to be at games to need a hardware-modified controller?

>>715434531
there was this shit anime ripping off No Game No Life and everything was bullshit and then you get to a pokemon arc (litteraly) where the girl keep having fungasm about how much fun it's to play pokemon battle. The battle ? she has a lvl 500 Mewtwo with negative 999 hp you have to deal exact damage to beat here.
Much fun, very wow

>>715435065
All of these are bad because there are financial stakes involved in those competitions. If someone is cheating in a tournament with a cash prize I agree that it would be bad. However, simply cheating in a mundane online match is a completely different story.

>>715435148
>Cheating is the ability to perform those tasks through a method that your opponent is either unaware of or unable to perform himself
>Running faster than your opponent in a foot race is cheating.

Cheating is anti-white. It makes you instantly a person without honor or integrity, it makes you a negative element dragging down the world, someone we have to monitor and manage to prevent you from ruining things, someone who feels giddiness from attention, squealing and shaking at the frustration of people around you, or the thrill of unearned victory.
If you have ever cheated at a video game, you need to die, especially if you're done it as an adult or any more than experimentally. Regular normalized cheaters cannot offer anything to society and must be killed.

>>715435086
That's a fair opinion, and if you don't want to use cheats I respect you for it. However, you do not get to dictate how others enjoy the game

>>715435316
Ironic

>>715435307
it's a part of the culture in countries like russia or china which is quite telling too

>>715435148

>>715434470
they have autism
i am not joking, every single cheater has autism
every study backs this up

if you meet a cheater irl they will drop it like its nothing, "oh yeah i used to/still cheat on rust"

>>715434216
>>715434293
It keeps happening because people keep replying normally to it
The vast majority of /v/ simply doesn't care about reposted low effort social media engagement bait, they'll bite anyway
To them 4chan is just another social media website where they can attentionwhore for likes and upvotes

>>715435316
I mean in most cases, players don't have to dictate anything; it's right there in the terms of service. Cheating is almost always a bannable offense, especially if you are using it to gain an unfair advantage.

>>715435214
>A game is a competition under a set of arbitrary rules.
>A cheating is a violation of the rules
Close, but nor quite. In a video game setting, the rules are programmed into the software itself. Therefore cheating isn't a violation of those rules, because if the rules are violated then the computer program that is the game would not be functional, it would crash and produce a bug report. Instead, cheating is an alteration of the rules of the game, which is why I define it as a strategy that your opponent is unaware of.

>>715434084 (OP)
I did cheat when I was a kid.
And I became so good at it that I won every single fucking time. I wrote my own button macros using C and once or twice I even wrote code tied to the RAM to give me advantages.
I know that scripts like that would get stopped by the vast majority of anti cheat software today, but back then it worked.

And I also learnt that cheating was fucking pointless.
When I started winning every single fucking game, I just couldn't help but ask myself why I was even playing the games I play. I already knew I was going to win. There was no challenge. There was no unpredictability. My cheated victory was already a forgone conclusion and waiting for the victory to conclude every time was just a waste of time.
Cheating made playing the games pointless.

So I stopped and have genuinely never cheated since. Well, in multiplayer games anyway.
Breaking single player games apart (after I've beaten them without cheats), is fun to explore the limits of a game and maybe find hidden secrets or unexplored or otherwise inaccessible parts. But that's a different thing entirely.

>>715434776
I blame global leaderboards and loot rewards.

>>715435483
>; it's right there in the terms of service
Jason is that you?

>I think this guy is aimbotting
>*bans him from my server*
what now big boy

>>715435710
He comes back on another account or different IP because he's autistic like that and got no life outside of cheating cuckoldry.

>>715435509
>And I also learnt that cheating was fucking pointless.
>When I started winning every single fucking game, I just couldn't help but ask myself why I was even playing the games I play. I already knew I was going to win. There was no challenge. There was no unpredictability. My cheated victory was already a forgone conclusion and waiting for the victory to conclude every time was just a waste of time.
>Cheating made playing the games pointless.
see the autismos never have this epiphany.

>>715435475
this
i knew a fag who spinbotted in tf2
most autistic person i've ever talked to

>>715434084 (OP)
Raging against cheating is a sign of autism/social retardation, you don't need to look any further than the replies ITT to realize this. It's like becoming extremely offended at banter. Those who grew up in a normal environment with male friends will understand that it's a form of play and not something to clutch your pearls over

>>715435497
The program an enforcement method, it contains the rules but it is not strictly "the rules".

>cheating is an alteration of the rules of the game
Incorrect, cheating is breaking the rules, either by altering the program, or sending signals in a way other than human input with the intended input device.

>>715435316
This is why we need dedicated servers again. Back then, you could just ban someone like this, cheating or no.

>>715435851
>its just banter broooo
>ruins the game for everyone
>cost the company millions
i genuinely believe you should be in jail
if you hacked amazon you would be in federal prison. hacking fortnite should be no different

>>715434084 (OP)
losers, unabel to compete without help.
really hard to grasp when 80% of the internet are cheating brownoids.

>>715435959
>brownoids
most cheaters are white autistic guys

>>715435853
>The program an enforcement method, it contains the rules but it is not strictly "the rules".
If that is the case, what other rules can a player violate without altering the software that would be penalized? Like if I'm playing Call of Duty online for example, what can I do in the game mechanics that are programmed in, without altering the software, that would result in a penalty or a ban?

>>715435859
but muh rank
muh xp
muh dailies
muh unlocks

The rewards for cheating have increased.

>>715435554
I mean, if we can't even agree on the terms of service, I feel like I need to go back to college.

>>715435851
Cheatcels say this and then rub their clitty to hypno tranny porn, curious

It's so nice having white colored skin and instantly and irrevocably knowing that cheating is wrong without needing to be taught or "prove" it to "humans" who don't understand it innately.

>>715435947
>>715435947
>>ruins the game for everyone
Again, only those that have not been desensitized to this kind of thing through normal social interactions
>>cost the company millions
Noooo think of the shareholders

>>715436002
Anon, do you know what a sub-set is?

>>715436053
There's no real index for cheating as a morality. I think the most people have achieved is something of a beatnik attitude, where looking cool can be labeled synonymous with getting away with it.

>>715436097
Yes, I do. However, you have not answered my question

>>715435851
>Those who grew up in a normal environment with male friends will understand that it's a form of play
If you got caught screen peeking at the sleepover, you lost your fucking turn and like got a couple bruises over it. Ask me how I know you are a chink.

>>715434084 (OP)
if developers wanted to they could server-auth a standard for controller input, but it's just too much work.
also, this is simply why you don't bother with controller players.

>>715436134
You clearly don't if you're asking that question. You're also clearly not intelligent if you think that question is a good response to what I wrote. Which makes sense because you are defending cheating.

>>715436053
Dogmatism os not white behavior. In the classical tradition any position you hold should be able to be proven

>>715434882
Why would you care about improving at a skill that has a real life application?

>>715436118
...Did you really pay $150 to post dumb ass shit?

>>715436184
As a refresher, the question was
>what other rules can a player violate without altering the software that would be penalized?
Just cite an example.

>>715435851
you sound like the guy always making bullshit rules that avdantages him and everyone hates

>>715436264
If all apples that exist are in a box, then:
1) Is the box apples?
2) Can you provide an example of an apple not in the box?

Why do cheaters get so mad when labelled what they are?

>>715434084 (OP)
Back in my day the best you could do was solder a switch you bought for 10 cents at radioshack into a controller to automatically pull the trigger every frame

>>715436251
It wasn't always $30!

>westcucks refuse to cheat when they can
no wonder you are getting replaced lol

>>715436174
>If you got caught screen peeking at the sleepover, you lost your fucking turn and like got a couple bruises over it
Anon, maybe you didn't pick up on it, but it sounds like you were being bullied

>>715435710
that's lazy, code your server so that you can turn his damage down to 0, that'd be a lot funnier.

>>715434803
I hope this is bad bait and you're not actually retarded anon.

>>715434803
Yes, lets just ignore that most of these games people cheat in are all matchmaking based with rank points
The days where some people just play for fun on community servers are long gone

>>715436315
The question did not ask for an abstraction, it asks for an example. If the analogy you provided is valid, you should be able to provide a concrete example of it.

>>715436397
Oh man are you going to be disappointed when you read this thread.

>>715434470
there are different cultural reasons for it. here is my purely anecdotal study on different cultures and their cheating levels

sweden, norway, germany are the control group, with cheater quotients approaching 0%
>protestant obsession over fairness and hard work
>do not like to cheat barring extreme mental illness and attention seeking type personalities

the US - cheater quotient 10%
>untreated mental illness
>"fuck you got mine" mentality and general lack of sportsmanship

southern america - cheater quotient 12.5%
>general third world doggy dog mentality leads to some cheating
>do not see much value in cheating because it takes extra work and they play for fun
>also too poor to deal with modern anti cheat

middle east, iran, saudi arabia, etc. - cheater quotient 15%
>cheat because lazy
>but also too lazy to cheat in today's world because cheating is hard work

russia - cheater quotient 40%
>obsessed with gaining an advantage any way they can because of their fucked up culture
>try harder to hide their cheats than actually win or become better, lots of subtle ESP usage and slight aim assist
>generally they do not view cheating as really anything bad, as is evident in this thread, instead they view it as some kind of nominal "rule" that is meant to be broken by based and redpilled manly men like them
>it is theorized that they view everything, including games, as a strangely homoerotic power struggle, which means that if they die to a cheater they think they just got gay raped and now they must install cheats and stomp noobs to regain their heterosexuality
>sometimes they are completely legit players and they go on EU because there are fewer russian cheaters there
>sometimes they go on EU servers to cheat because there are fewer russian cheaters there

china - cheater quotient ???
>no one knows whats happens there except all-out ragehacking that no one can apparently stop

>>715436428
>Anon is so stupid he can't even tell he is being asked his own question

>>715436410
>Yes, lets just ignore that most of these games people cheat in are all matchmaking based with rank points
Ranking points have no objective value. I don't feel bad about costing people ranking points or battlepass XP in the same way I would if there were money or recognition on the line

>>715434084 (OP)
You can cheat, just don't get caught.
>Nooo, I must feel socially validated while cheating
Okay, let's normalize cheating and make the game about who can cheat best
>W-wait no, not like that! I would lose my advantage!

>>715436497
I will gladly answer your question, if you answer mine. Or are you trying to cheat your way out of this discussion?

>>715434084 (OP)
Because it is nigger behavior

>>715436549
>You can cheat, just don't get caught
I use cheats and have no problem with this. There should be a deterrence against cheating so that people don't cheat on their main account.

>>715436604
Which question was I referring to in my last post?

>>715434084 (OP)
Exposed cronussy

>>715436692
I will answer this question after you answer mine.
>what other rules can a player violate without altering the software that would be penalized?

getting rid of competitive free to play games would dramatically decrease cheating.

Why are cheaters so insecure?

>>715434470
There isn't a lot of souls left so most of the meat puppets walking around in this world now are actual soulless npc on autopilot

>>715435086
Here's what equity really looks like, Saucy.

>>715434084 (OP)
Because it ruins the integrity and fun of the game, which is essentially a mutually unspoken contract that it’s one player’s skill or character vs another. Cheating is pretty much just a cope for people that can’t git gud but want the experience of being perceived that way by a captive audience (the lobby)
>i think it’s funny
Yes but you could just play a single player game with mods, or hack an online game where it’s inconsequential. The fact you’re doing it in an online matchmaking game thats pvp means you’re deriving ego from it on at least one level which is really lame

>>715436810
they never learned how to properly contend with failure

>>715436776
Since you're too stupid to understand, I guess I have to spell it out.
The answer is your question is malformed and based on an incorrect understanding of the concepts being used. The "rules" are contained within the program, but the rules are not the program.

Now:
>If all apples that exist are in a box, then:
>1) Is the box apples?
>2) Can you provide an example of an apple not in the box?

>Which question was I referring to in my last post?

>>715435851
ah yes, nothing screams more properly adjusted person than the behavior of chronically cheating in video games against toddlers when you are a grown ass man yourself.

>>715435497
This is the most slant-eyed post I've ever seen.

>>715434574
>It's not fun
they clearly get some sort of enjoyment out of it, otherwise they'd choose to do another leisurely activity

>>715437207
Maybe it's just underdeveloped brain thing, I don't understand it and perceive entertaining this thought as mind numbing because I didn't have developmental issues as child so there's that.

>>715434882
You do realize that hand to eye coordination is a very useful skill in real life, right?

>>715436856
Ahh, equal opportunity.

>>715436957
I will answer your question immediately after you answer mine. I asked first, so don't try to cheat me!
>what other rules can a player violate without altering the software that would be penalized?
If the rules aren't the program as you claim, can't you name a single solitary example of a rule that's not contained within the program in a game of Call of Duty?

>>715435052
>random strangers were actually defending me spinning 360 and shooting dudes who were under water half a mile away
It also happens here when anons post webms of "competitive" FPS with blatant aim botting (typically, the crosshair snapping onto other players heads despite them moving behind walls). I used ti think it was just some bored dudes taking the piss but they always get so stupidly defensive and butthurt over the most obvious shit that I now believe they're legit cheaters on damage control (no point in cheating if all the normal players are gone).

cheaters should go to prison, y/n?

>>715437704
I did.

>>715435316
No actually, I do get to decide that. The game will be fair for everyone and you will not install programs to give yourself an advantage and play above a level you are capable of and don't put in the hard work and practice yourself to achieve, or else you will be permanently banned from the game and (rightfully) mocked, insulted, and laughed at in all fashions and forms.

>>715434470
I like it when you can do funny shit.
Cheating to win or to make people rage is shit but cheaters getting admin-like powers to mess around leads to some pretty funny situations. Every game is treated super seriously nowadays, gamers just want to get their victory dopamine boosts, including the cheaters. No wonder everyone gets so fucking mad when all they play is the goysloppiest most infuriating sweaty competitive garbage and all the cheaters they see are chinese usernames with aimbot wallhack noclip turned on doing nothing but getting wins they didn't earn, despite the rootkit anti-cheats added by the developers.

>>715437789
Are you referring to this webm that keeps getting posted in every CS thread? Because just so you know, this actually isn't cheating, as much as I recognize that it looks like it

>>715437824
Y. Crimes are just cheating at life.

>>715437825
Oh, I must have missed it, sorry. Would you mind repeating the concrete example for me? I couldn't find it by scrolling back through the replies.

>>715434246
croissant + donut

>>715437847
Yeah seriously
I can tell 99% of cheaters are faggots because they just do aimbots or other gay shit and make their username a bunch of random symbols and characters to make it harder to kick or ban them instead of flying around the map named THOR in all caps spamming lightning spells like that one guy in DS1 or using a hack to put themselves on BLU team and running around the map as a triple speed Scout named SONIC which would actually be funny and take an ounce of creativity. The fact cheaters never do actually fun shit like that and are always "subtle cheating" and trying to hide it to gain a competitive edge is just cringe beyond belief.

>>715437840
>No actually, I do get to decide that
You objectively don't. If you did, nobody would use cheats. However as it turns out you are not the emperor of the universe so people get to have fun the way they want

>>715435475
Yep, it's very strange how casual they are about rampantly cheating in video games. Same exact situation with an autistic guy I went to college with cheating in Rust.

>>715435252
Why don't you play with other cheaters instead of non-cheaters then?

>>715437824
>cheaters should go to prison, y/n?
No. they should be forced to get a j*b instead, that would be way more cruel and apt.

>>715437889
anon, he's clearly cheating
why would a pro wiggle his mouse like that right after his crosshair snaps to the enemy

>>715434084 (OP)
the game rewards you for wininng so theyll cheat to win and think nothing of it. there are entire tournaments that are sponsored that are fill with cheater teams. one guy got caught like a few months ago for putting "word.exe" on the computer. also EVERY TEAM AND PRO STREAMER CHEATS.

>>715437959
>Would you mind repeating the concrete example for me?
There wasn't one, but nonetheless, the question has been answered. Now answer mine.

But since you're clearly thicker than the great wall of China, let me give you some choice excerpts from two posts.
>>715436957
>The "rules" are contained within the program
>>715437704
>name a single solitary example of a rule that's not contained within the program

>>715436198
Having an innate sense of morality isn't dogmatism you absolute retard, dogmatism is the uncritical observation of theological beliefs.

>>715437989
That's a cronut.

>>715434402
what recoil? He's playing on a controller

It's okay to cheat in gacha games. If you get banned who cares it's F2P. You can cheat a new account back to where you started easily. Always cheat in life service games btw the service doesn't respect you so do not respect them. They spit in your food and you don't pay the bill it's only fair.

>>715438067
1. The game doesn't give me the option to queue against other cheat users. I would be willing to to give it a shot if it did
2. Part of the fun of being a cheat user is the power fantasy of playing against players who don't have the know how to use cheats, kind of like playing a super hero game. You wouldn't get that playing against other cheaters

>>715438169
cronut in the cronus

>>715438216
>It's okay to cheat in gacha games
It's not okay to play gacha games.

>>715437889
>Are you referring to this webm that keeps getting posted in every CS thread
There were several others, mostly CS.
>Because just so you know, this actually isn't cheating,
What is it then? I'm seriously asking, usually people will just claim that "he knew from experience" when the crosshair is clearly snapping on the other wall-hidden player twice in that webm (with the player actively fighting against it the second time).
If this is something allowed in CS tournament then fine. I don't follow this stuff.

>>715438115
>There wasn't one, but nonetheless, the question has been answered.
The question asked for a concrete example. If you were one of my students, I would not count that as even an attempt to answer the question

>>715434084 (OP)
you lack honour if you cheat

>>715438080
Just give them community service.

>>715434084 (OP)
I cheat in MMOs for two reasons; One is that some of the content is boring as shit, and Two because it's easier than actually trying when completing certain content. For example, in World of Warcraft;
>Delves are introduced in The War Within
>One delve each season houses a single boss encounter, who on defeat gives you cosmetics
>At the highest difficulty, they award a unique skin for one customizable mount
>They are designed to be health sponges with obnoxious mechanics. No, not difficult mechanics; mechanics purely designed to be FUCKING ANNOYING.
>WoW being WoW, there's no shortage of invincibility exploits because the devs literally don't test their shit before releasing content anymore Burning Crusade, quest in Zangarmarsh. When you turn into a bird to scout the pumps, disconnect at the exact same time as when you select the dialogue option to turn into the bird. The bird is invincible normally so nothing can go wrong during the quest. That invincibility is applied to the player directly without any visible buff nor duration. You can only die to fatigue damage like this, and the effect falls off when you log out. It persists through load screens, portals, instances, and basically everything else. Enjoy.
>Use one of the invincibility exploits to earn the mount customization so I never need to go back to the artificial difficulty bosses again
>Zero chance of this getting fixed because WoW fired all the devs who would actually fix exploits like this

Of course, they can still ban me if they found me doing these things, so I keep to myself. Never use exploits during raids or PvP because that's the easiest way to be found.

>>715438273
Women and homosexual men don't understand that. I'm sorry Anon.

>>715434293
Could be a smartphone photo of a twitter screenshot of a tiktok post.

>>715438265
Same advice applies to any live service game such as MMOs, shooters, action games, management games, etc.

>>715438268
When you have 10,000+ hours of experience in CS, you just start to get a sense as to where players are and innately place your crosshair over them

>>715438319
>Burning Crusade, quest in Zangarmarsh. When you turn into a bird to scout the pumps, disconnect at the exact same time as when you select the dialogue option to turn into the bird. The bird is invincible normally so nothing can go wrong during the quest. That invincibility is applied to the player directly without any visible buff nor duration. You can only die to fatigue damage like this, and the effect falls off when you log out. It persists through load screens, portals, instances, and basically everything else. Enjoy.
making a bug report about this
thanks anon!

>>715436471
Only brasiloids cheat in SA we have a profoundly anti fag super masculine obsessed culture, if you chet you're a colossal faggot, his is true for Chile and Argentina at least, plus, na cheats way more than what you think a lot of you guys love to glorify brazen ignorance and that leads to some real crazy entitlement

>>715438270
There is no concrete example. As I said, your question is malformed. Now answer my questions, and also answer "Did you stop beating your wife" with only either yes or no. Any other answer is avoiding the question.

>>715435809
Im fucking sperg and its literally my way od thinking, but i just cheat on RTS games as kid to get faster ending in campgain

>>715434365
You are not entitled to a service if you refuse to play by the rules. It isn't against the law for a company to ban you from their platform. It's no different from getting banned from Twitter for constantly calling people niggers. They're allowed to do it because you agreed to those terms when you registered to use it.

>>715437889
how much money have you donated to streamers?

>>715438424
There's a reason I posted it, anon. It's already fixed on the PTR, and will be fixed when the new patch goes live.

>>715438319
>I cheat because <copium>

>>715438181
Thats the point. AA in combo with rotational is on par with legit aimlock setups on PC and thats on top of a fact how this goes through all visual clutter and such. With Cronus you can empower already something thats on par with software based cheat engines on PC lol.

>>715434365
rules aren't laws you retard. You're not going to prison if you cheat in a test in highschool, you'll get expelled

>>715438637
There's literally nothing wrong with cheating in GAAS.

>>715438498
I gracefully accept your concession

>>715435851
Why are frogposters dumb?

>>715434454
>ESL saar doesn't know SKG and outs itself
Lmao

>>715438387
Years ago I would have been absolutely certain you were joking, now it's 50/50. It's so stupid but I genuinely can't tell if you're serious.

>>715438676
>I will answer your questions
>refuses to answer any questions.
One of us is certainly conceding here.

>>715436471
>sweden, norway, germany are the control group, with cheater quotients approaching 0%
incorrect, the hard work trait sometimes manifest as being obsessed with success which can suppress their care for fairness enough to lead to cheating but trying thier hardest to hide it, they have the highest "pro" cheater quotient outside russia but that also means your average germ is way more unlikely to be cheating, would say 3% quotient but it's very top heavy

>>715438686
Because if they weren't dumb, they wouldn't frogpost. It's a self-selection thing.

>>715435006
>my friends and I are going to play soccer. I should be able to bring a gun and shoot them if they're about to score. After all, it gives be an advantage and I'm just playing the way I want to play

The only form of "cheating" I do is using programmable macros for inputs in fighting games, though really it's just a way for me to level the playing field since I don't have time to vommit those inputs into muscle memory. That way I can compete on an even playing field with those who have hundreds of hours to practice pretzel motions, and the game is decided by who has the superior tactics and game sense rather than who spent the most time grinding.

i understand why people cheat that's fine
i don't understand people like this
>>715437889
who the fuck looks at this and defends this
what do you gain by defending this
the person in this clip is not your friend
they will not fuck you
they don't even know who you are
why the fuck would you blatantly lie to yourself and say NO IT'S NOT CHEATING IT'S SKILL

>>715438794
yeah i agree. to tell you the truth the quotients i gave are made up anyway. i just wrote it down like that because these countries have the lowest prevalence of cheaters in the world as far as i know

>>715435086
All of these kids are stealing an experience that other people are paying for

>>715439002
shroud doesn't cheat
you can drop him into a brand new game that is only being tested for the first time and he will dunk on everyone

>>715438994
Damn congrats kike,you definetly would get that podium spot when it comes to olympic tier mental gymnastics. Jew,anglo or a shitskin typed that post.

>>715435213
Because brown people are dishonest. There's a reason we say that Russians aren't white despite superficially looking like they are.

>>715439165
No one believes that Shroud isn't cheating at CS. But this is a good thing, e-sport will always be a stupid meme thanks to guys like him.

>>715436471
From what I've seen, China is basically the same as Russia's, at least for the first point. Definitely a "everyone else is cheating, and I also need to cheat to even the playing field".

I remember one news article about Chinese students demanding that they be allowed to cheat on exams, but it made sense in context, they were basically only policing one region on cheaters and ignoring the others.

>>715439236
? Literally explain what would be the difference between using a macro and sitting down to practice Guile boom loops for 4 hours a day. Other than the fact I would lose 4 hours of my day and get arthritis

>>715439281
Chinese gov is turning off AI agents like GPT during national exams now lmao.

>>715438994
You should also install some macros for automatic perfect frame punishes and counters, that's a lot more intensive training than bnbs. You blocked something unsafe on block, so you deserve the optimal punish.

>>715439382
You're a subhuman. A fact you dont understand why proves that fact.

>>715439281
>I remember one news article about Chinese students demanding that they be allowed to cheat on exams
One exam in the provinces was taken seriously by the local teachers and staff and they made sure no cheating would happen, so the parents rioted because that was unfair for their children since everyone else in the country cheated.

The average thin-skinned little bitchfaggot playing for internet street cred couldn't differentiate between getting cheated and getting outplayed to save his life, unless it's the most outrageous, blatant aim/spinbotting and no-clipping.
>t. former battlefield jetwhore and shitbucketeer banned from servers than even the most blatant cheaters

>>715439165
he is not gonna fuck you dude
he is not your friend
he doesn't even know who you are
what do you gain by defending something that if shown to 99% of the people on planet earth even the most darkest most gorilla nigger would say is cheating.
and you saying " it's not" or " I want to set the record straight and don't like false information" is not convincing anyone
I'm genially curious

>>715439430
If the average ladder player had grinded to the point where they were able to consistently perform frame perfect punishes, I would. But if I did that now it would give me an unfair advantage, and the game would no longer be decided by who has the superior game tactics. I only use macros so I can play the game on an even field like I explained, I have no interest in cheating

>>715439382
Because there's always the chance that an input can be messed up, you retard. Missed input that can make you drop a combo. Macroing a move removes that chance, giving you a distinct and unfair advantage against your opponent.

>>715439112
Do you hate pirates more than monopolists?

>>715439496
Okay, but explain how it is that he can perform consistently even in games that are still in invite-only closed beta where no cheats gave been developed yet

>>715439546
The average ladder player drops inputs from time to time, I hope your macro has a random chance to misinput to account for this.

>>715438219
1. You might try it, but you certainly wouldn't stick with it, because surprise surprise playing against cheaters is not fun.
2. Part of the fun of playing a game is competing against other people (who aren't cheating). You remove that fun by doing what you're doing, no one else wanted to play a bit part in your power fantasy.
Cheating when there's no financial stakes involved is, if anything, more immoral and certainly more pathetic than cheating for money. Anyone who wants a power fantasy can always try getting good.

>>715439581
With a macro you still have the chance of performing a move at the wrong time and getting punished. Your argument makes no sense

>>715438994
Same but I use only minor aim assist and wallhack. Some games have such terrible level design that you NEED to see the enemy through the walls or winning is basically impossible.

>>715439673
>Part of the fun of playing a game is competing against other people (who aren't cheating). You remove that fun by doing what you're doing, no one else wanted to play a bit part in your power fantasy.
I'm not trapping anyone in the game with me. If playing against a cheat user isn't fun for you, just finish out the match then requeue. Although if you absolutely need to win to have fun in a competitive game to the point you can't find any enjoyment in competing against a cheat user, you should re-examine your attitude

>>715434246
ligma nuts

>>715434365
Go on bro, cheat in fortnite ;)

>>715439791
You chinks are so funny with your mental gymnastics.

>>715436858
I believe the cheating types border on psychopathy and that there is an element of power in there too. The game is only a mean at this point, they just want to overpower other people to feel better about their pathetic self.

>>715439791
You should kill yourself if this isn't just trolling.

>>715434084 (OP)
>state of cheating
It's basic technology
This is the problem with consoles, it creates computer illiteracy where they think the most basic of things is extreme and they use terms they can't comprehend

Also these dumbasses forgot trigger mods was a thing. Full auto FALs caused hell

>>715434470
They are failures at life.

>>715435252
There's financial stakes in any non-ftp game, you paid an entry fee and instead you see a bunch of guys shitting on the floor and telling you that they're just having fun their own way and if you don't like it just don't step in their shit.

>>715439898
>>715439906
literally explain how is anything I said logically wrong

>>715439496
most of what shroud does is really not that impressive or strange if you are even remotely skilled in shooters. there are clips of him that make me go hmm but ultimately the whole "shroud is le cheater mastermind" rhetoric simply does not pick up speed with me because it's almost entirely spearheaded by literal schizoid conspiracy theorists who all fucking suck at shooters. like i've seen completely average flicks get pointed out as "cheating" because some dumbass can't even perceive the level of an average fps pubstomper. i really think if my gameplay was recorded and put in choice webms on 4channel then i would also look like a cheater despite the fact i've never been top 500 in any fps

>>715440043
How about you answer my questions like you said you would ;)

>>715440119
what question?

>>715439904
Might be onto something. When you dunk on these guys they rage with ferocity that makes even the turbo autists blush.

>>715440141
>>715436957
>>715438498

>>715436000
instant critical hit

Is there a reliable place for cheats? I'd heard about this program that you can use on another PC without using on your main PC so that the cheats are undetectable for COD.

>>715439690
>With a macro you still have the chance of performing a move at the wrong time and getting punished. Your argument makes no sense
Anon... you can also make that type of mistake without using a macro. That's a different issue.

This is like...

>misinput
The error of going off beat in the middle of a dance routine.

>using the wrong move
The error of doing the wrong motion in the middle of a dance routine.

Someone who never goes offbeat can still fuck up the choreo, but they'll never fuck up on the timing aspect of it. Someone who sometimes goes offbeat can fuck up in both aspects.

>>715440207
I'm not that guy, but
>If all apples that exist are in a box, then:
>1) Is the box apples?
I don't think so
>2) Can you provide an example of an apple not in the box?
No because you said all apples are in the box
>Did you stop beating your wife
Yes

>>715440052
I'm not sure who you're trying to convince at this point, you shouldn't have posted that webm in the first place if you were tryinig to defend Shroud's honor. He's 100% cheating in that one.
>b-but in other games -
He's cheating in CS.

>>715440316
>He's cheating in CS
proof?

>>715439690
That's different from actually failing to execute the move because you missed the input and getting punished for it, you moron.

>>715440402
That webm you posted.

>>715440306
>>715440404
Different category of error, but the result(punish) is the same. There is no impact to the fairness of the game

>>715434216
>>twitter screenshot of a tiktok post
>the absolute state of /v/

You could have done the REDDIT thing and posted a webm from Bluesky.

>>715436002
>what can I do in the game mechanics that are programmed in, without altering the software, that would result in a penalty or a ban?
typing "nigger" in chat

yeah i cheat whatchu gon do bout it bitch report to sony? LOL

>>715440043
You, in your absolute smoothbrained idiotic "logic", think that anyone who joins in a competitive match/game is not losing anything and should just finish the match and then requeue. What you stupid fuck do not realize is that you wasted the person's time, something that they couldn't get back. Is that clear enough, you slobbering retard?

>>715434470
People are more psychopathic than ever and will trample you over anything no matter how insignificant

>>715436053
Cool big lion.

>>715440472
>Different category of error, but the result(punish) is the same. There is no impact to the fairness of the game
Huh? I literally just posted it. A normal player has two avenues of failure, whereas the cheater only has one.

How does removing a potential user failure not impact fairness?

>normal player
Can make two separate errors.
In other words, a normal player has to flip two coins in every situation, and both must land on heads to succeed.

>macro player
Can only make one error.
A macro player only needs to flip one coin to succeed.

How does that not impact fairness?

>>715440472
>someone who can never miss an input vs someone who can
> no impact to the fairness of a game
Are you really this retarded or did your mother have to smash your head repeatedly on the wall to be so?

WTF BROS???? CHEATS ON CONSOLE????? THOUGHT NOT POSSIBLE PC PEOPLE LIES MUST BE!!

>>715439791
>Cannot find fun without being guaranteed victory and has to apply mental acrobatics to justify it
Here's (you)r participation trophy :) You did good :)

>>715441170
>Here's (you)r participation trophy :) You did good :)
that is fine with me, I just play and use cheats to have fun. I am not a sweaty tryhard

People will never experience playing online games back in 2005 when it wasn't as prolific as nowadays. Back in the day you would rarely find cheaters during online matches. It was much more epic compared to now when you will often second guess if that death was to a skilled player or script/cheat user. 2005 fags really had it good.

>>715441215
You are literally a sweaty tryhard. You find giving yourself unfair advantage okay to guarantee not losing even if you´re the less skilled. So you take extra steps to cheat just because you cant enjoy the challenge. You are literal embodiment of tryhard.

>>715441013
The odds of a normal player making a mistake and getting punished are divided into two different error categories, so the chance for either to happen is halved. The odds for someone using a macro to make the mistake are concentrated in a single category as opposed to two, so the chances are doubled. The amount of punishes resulting from the mistake are the same in both cases

>>715434365
I know you're just being a retarded troll, but for anyone who doesn't get why this is a stupid argument:
SKG or even the EU don't question ToS as a legitimate concept that allows service providers to bar you from their services. They question individual stipulations in these ToS. Cheating affects the service such that you affect other people's use of the service. It's like going into a restaurant and shitting on the floor. This principle of things not being okay when they inconvenience others unreasonably is something that fewer and fewer people some to be getting, instead replacing it with "I feel like it so I should be able to do it - others don't matter".

>>715441215
You are twice as sweaty as any tryhard, you've gone running to an external program to play the game for you, possibly even paid someone for that program just so you can see a you win jpeg onscreen. Everyone else just plays the game

>>715439382
anon, you're arguing that automating execution (skill) is ok, it is fundamentally not.

>>715440532
Yes, correct. Only Nazis use Twitter (formerly: Twitter) now.

>>715439382
>please explain the difference between learning and pressing a button
Are you gonna ask for an AI summary of the response?

>>715440043
Maybe stop being yellow.

>>715441307
>The odds of a normal player making a mistake and getting punished are divided into two different error categories, so the chance for either to happen is halved.
???

Why would the chance of something happening halve the chance of the other happening?

If both players are the same aside from the inputs, then they'll both use the wrong move the same amount of times.

>Normal player
1/10 chance to use the wrong move
1/10 chance to misinput
1/10 + 1/10 odds of making a mistake
= 2/10 odds of making a mistake

>Macro player
1/10 chance to use the wrong move
>0/0 chance to misinput
1/10 odds of making a mistake.

>>715436074
>Again, only those that have not been desensitized to this kind of thing through normal social interactions
I am guessing you are either Russian or Chinese because cheating is a major nono in a friendly situation and gets you blackballed in white countries

>>715434365
Cheating in videogames should be against the law, that would have been a far better campaign than the SKGs communist agenda

>>715434574
For you or me, yes, but for some people it's fun.
Some people actually enjoy being cuckolds, some people like having their balls stomped on. People find weird things fun.

>>715441801
>If both players are the same aside from one having perfect input, then they'll both use the wrong move the same amount of times.
also, you've lost the plot of the argument, so let's frame it another way.
Would traditional sports still be exciting to watch if the players had automatic tools?

>>715436009
Predatory terms of service are null and void under most countries law, they add the terms in there because no one sued them to make it explicitly illegal, that's why they feel so encouraged to quite literally steal your money without your consent because you typed "looking for grup" and the AI they use flagged the message as some flavor of the week "hate crime".

>>715434470
>back in the day it was to troll but that isn't the case anymore, so why?
Zoomer push for everything to be competitive.
It's so fucking shit.

>>715436009
things like terms of service or EULA frequently include completely bullshit clauses like not allowing you to sue the company, and giving the flimsiest possible reasoning for why you might get banned with no recourse. They could demand your grandmother's corpse in the EULA and you wouldn't know because no one reads them.

>>715436471
What about Brazil

>>715438387
>you just start to get a sense as to where players are
this sounds like something you heard people who know more about csgo then you saying and now you just repeats without context.
you do get a sense of where people are coming from when you understand rotations and you know the map, but no game sense or game experience, no matter how many thousand hours you have, will teach you that people are coming out of walls.
if he flicked to the limits of the CT spawn's smoke your argument could have made some sense, but nobody gains access to wallhacks after 10k hours of cs.
shroud had 2 options: change positions or hold the smoke. when his aim locked and he realized he was about to get traded he panicked and tried to change position out of time and died.
shroud is ass and got filtered on csgo lan tournaments

>>715434531
What's fun about it? Is it the making people mad part? I can't think of any other reason.

>>715438994
"modern" one button inputs are a thing though? maybe you're talking about older fighting games.

Cheating is stigmatised because they don't do anything fun for everybody else.
Modern Warfare 2 modded lobbies was the pinnacle of "cheating", sometimes some retard would set your level back to 0, only for it to be set to max or "prestige 11" the next game.

2011 and you've met a hacker? They've gave your classes some cool coloured names, given you a coloured clan tag and you're playing custom games recreated with mods. You're given a mod menu for the server to enjoy yourself too. You get to play as a harrier.

That shit is gone. Even in GTA and RDR where these kind of mods exist, cheaters decide instead of having fun with a bunch of strangers to just kill across the map.

Cheating is stigmatised because it's selfish "fun" over actual shared joy.

>>715439392
That's kinda based though. I fear for the future now that kids have AI to cheat for them. I'd have made great use of it if I had access to it during high school and university. You can totally get away with it too as long as you're smart enough to edit the output to make it look as genuine as possible and trick the AI detectors teachers use.

>follow niche PS2 game speedrun community
>it's all americans and japanese players
>small but healthy with new runs coming all the time
>new player shows up from Brazil
>is beating times left and right out of nowhere
>community investigates his setup, turns out the way he's sideloading the game is changing RNG and giving him amazing drops for impossible runs
>he gets confronted
>refuses to take any responsibility
>a few days later the Brazilian has replaced the American as the mod for the game and all the US and JP players have been wiped from the leaderboard

A single BR literally cheated my favorite game to death.

>>715434803
Most 3rd world post itt, bait or not

>>715442862
those server wide cheats that add random bs for everyone to use and give you infinite exp were pretty neat

>>715435086
Why do people hate the concept of saucy

>>715441801
>Why would the chance of something happening halve the chance of the other happening?
When I queue up against a player of a similar skill level, it is determined that we will make a similar number of mistakes in the match, let's call it X - if that number was much different between me and an opponent, we wouldn't be in the same skill bracket. For the opponent, that number X will be divided between misinputs and poorly selected inputs, whereas for me it will consist only of poorly selected inputs. However, as already explained, misinputs and poorly selected inputs are functionally the same in this scenario since both have the same final result.

>>715434470
I know with the chinks its a cultrual thing where failure at anything, even video games stains you socially.

And simultaneously, cheating (or at least getting away with it) Is seen as using your brain to get around a problem and is encouraged

>>715434531
all these people pretending they dont get it. theyre the cheaters.

GET GOOD GET LMAOBOX

>>715442962
kek that's honestly pretty funny, what game

>>715443215
I can understand if it's to troll people but for any other reason besides that I genuinely don't understand where the fun factor is.

cheating in MP is subhuman behavior tbhquitehonestly

>>715436471
India isn't much into playing games since they view computers as tiresome work tools not toys but they're up there with china and mostly for the same reasons too. Not cheating is seen as breaking their version of the golden rule.
They cheat you, you must also cheat them and also make it worse for them to show how much better you are than them.
That and the huge ego problem.
Otherwise that's a pretty spot on analysis of the cheaters of the world.

>>715443275
https://www.speedrun.com/godhand

>>715443058
There was some that even gave you a modmenu in offline games until you reloaded the game. There was no reason why anyone decided to do that other than wanting to have fun, the philosophy around it has all changed.

Tbh I blame party chat a little. You don't get to laugh, talk shit and enjoy yourself with the people in your lobby anymore, instead it's retards in party chat and discord voice chats laughing with their friends about how they're ruining the game for others.
The joy went from being shared in the lobby to being shared in the private voice chats.

>>715443361
God Hand isn't even that niche, that's honestly fucking hilarious that an entire community would just let a brazilian autist come in and fuck shit up

Just return to exclusively playing LAN setups with friends for multiplayer. Local network, local server, and if a bro is obviously cheating he's right there available for the group to correct him through his bussy.
Just like it used to be.

Internet was a fad anyways. You don't want the internet in 2025, it's just cheaters in games and endless AI bots on every site trying to trick you into giving them your money and personal information. Online is dead and gone the way of the dodo.

>>715438319
exploits are not cheats you retard, they are clever use of developer mistakes cheats are literally third party programs that would give you invincibility. There's a huge different if you use exploits - I did that a lot in classic wow when wall jumping was a thing got to spots that were impossible to get through in bgs and could kill the entire enemy team alone - but that was all done by myself, without a third party program I don't see that as cheating. Exploiting and cheating are different things. Cheating is like aimbot or a program that would play the optimal rotation in a WoW boss fight.

>>715436471
Cheating has been deeply ingrained in Chinese culture for milenia, starting with people creating elaborate cheating techniques and schools to cheat on the exams that allowed you to become a merchant during the one of the dynasties. Cheating is absolutely expected in China, the only problem is getting caught, and that just means youre bad at cheating

>>715443450
to be fair God Hand has always had a huge problem with cheaters and save-state abusers trying to post runs and shitting up youtube with their content. The game caught on big in India and Indonesia and Brazil around the time AetherSX2 started working decently and discussing it online became an absolute fucking nightmare ever since.

It's fucking crazy that somehow this BR managed to usurp the game moderator spot on speedrun.com though

I still see the BR go into some of the japanese speedrun streams that still run and try to compliment the people he fucked out of leaderboard status. What a gigantic cunt.

>>715434949
If the cheater wins the competition then it's not fun or fair for the runners that are trying to compete according to the set rules of the competition. This is basic toddler shit I know you understand and are pretending not to for unknown reasons.

>>715443205
>I know with the chinks its a cultrual thing where failure at anything, even video games stains you socially.
It's not that failure stains your morally. It's that all moral responsibility and relevance has been shifting onto a separate, absolute, and distunctional external authority. Ironically completely stripping individuals of any form of moral responsibility.

What is or isn't moral is no longer at all a question for the individual. It's purely a a concern of the government and it's capacity to enforce things.

The question of "is what I'm doing morally right or wrong" stopped existing in China, and is disappearing in all societies that follow the same ideological path.
It's entirely being replaced with "what can I get away with?" Your portion of responsibility over the morality of your actions has been removed from you, because that kind of responsibility can only be carried by governmental institution. So... why would you ever worry about it?
If the government and its ideology is the sole authority on what is wrong and right, and it's communicated by mere act of enforcing it, why should you individually continue to be bogged down with such worries?

That is what happened in China, why it's system of public morality collapsed.

>>715443204
This goes back to the thing about having macros on optimal frame punishes for unsafe moves then. No reason not to, as matchmaking will put you into the "proper bracket" that matches someone that will make the same level of mistakes on a tactical level and not the input level.

If you don't cheat, you deserve to lose.

>>715443983
bug"person" mentality

>>715443884
>What is or isn't moral is no longer at all a question for the individual. It's purely a a concern of the church and it's capacity to enforce things.

>The question of "is what I'm doing morally right or wrong" stopped existing in the US, and is disappearing in all societies that follow the same ideological path.
>It's entirely being replaced with "what can I get away with?" Your portion of responsibility over the morality of your actions has been removed from you, because that kind of responsibility can only be carried by god. So... why would you ever worry about it?
>If the god and the church is the sole authority on what is wrong and right, and it's communicated by mere act of enforcing it, why should you individually continue to be bogged down with such worries?

>That is what happened in the US, why it's system of public morality collapsed.

>>715437889
This is clear evidence that he is. The way it snaps to the guys head behind the wall then he tries to shake it off cause it looks too obvious is proof.

>cheating in PvE
Depending on the game, semi-acceptable. When there are actual rewards for doing a task/killing a boss/earning an achievement, I could not give one iota of a fuck. You aren't harming me, you aren't harming anyone else, and if you get caught then boo hoo good job retard.

Lets use Monster Hunter as an example. So you've cheated to kill Alatreon/Fatalis/Zoh Shia/Jin Dahaad and get the parts to use their armor. Whoopty fucking doo. The only time I'd ever have a problem here is if said shitter goes "HURRRRR IM TOP OF DPS HURRRRRRRRRRR". No shit, congrats. That's it, hunt over, done interacting with that moron, life goes forward.

>Cheating in PvP
The only people who actually do so are manchildren who never grew up, people who equate victory with their own life-choices, and the mentally ill (though the last two could be interchangeable depending on how you look at it). If I get caught up in this instance, I'll just not play that game. Theres a fuckton of other games out there I can cut my teeth on, why bother inflating someone elses ego at the expense of my fun even if they're on my team?

>Cheating in competitive PvP
lol
lmao even
The entire game is a chance to prove your worth on a battlefield. If you have to resort to cheating here, you've proven to everyone around you that you aren't worth dick to anyone.

>Cheating in any other genre
Not my monkey, not my circus.

Cheating is a skill.
If you don't cheat you're less skilled. A scrub.
If you have an advantage, you use it, it's capitalism 101 baby.

>>715436471
>russia - cheater quotient 40%

More like 90%, when there was east and west germany, east germany the russian controlled part put every single, Athlete on steroids. I will literally never trust a Russian ever.

>>715444043
>It's purely a a concern of the church and it's capacity to enforce things.
So... I take it that you don't know what christianity is?

>>715444143
>Cheating is a skill.
>being ruthless and egoistic is a skill

>>715438106
Don't care about esports or whoever he is but it's clearly cheating.
The shake is from trying to go left to aim around the corner where his enemy will appear from but the magnetism from the cheats is pulling them onto the player. Most likely they're using some software that uses magnetism for aiming which can also be used to detect players through feel. If your aim drags nearby, there's an enemy there.

His mouse drags to the next target, he tries to aim at the wall because aiming through the wall is stupid and exposes the cheats, it drags it back because the cone of magnetism is too big at that distance, the player peaks just as he tries to get his aim back around the corner but due to the magnetism following the player his aim is offset and he dies.

Did he get banned or anything for that clip? It's as clear as day as cheating.

>>715435086
>metaphor made by brown people
>glorifies theft
>reposted by a retarded namefag

>>715434084 (OP)
>online games
Because it affects other real players. I know cause I cheat. I cheat not because I can, nor because to gain advantage over another, but simply because I want to see how far I can control a game state through coding. It becomes addicting to find out the limits of your own coding skills.

>>715434247
real life example
a girl halfway through sneaked away and drove a car closer to the finish line to win

Looking forward to when AI assisted tools that will aim for me in video games becomes a thing. Competitive gaming will finally be saved when strategy and intelligence becomes the thing that matters and games are not being gatekept by mechanical skill that anyone can achieve, just not something people want to waste their time on.

>>715444043
Guilt /=/ government mandates

>>715435851
extremely indian response

>>715444271
Yes.
Try looking at people who are successful and those who aren't.
Guess who'll make it to be the president and who doesn't.
People who have the edge and aren't afraid of using it will always have the advantage.
Whatcha gonna do about it? Be honest at me?

>>715436356
saar don't redeem

>>715444526
that's a diagram

>>715444787
>what are you gonna do about it?
Pity you
You lack a fundamental piece of humanity, one that is absolutely essential to peace and fulfillment.
You will spend your entire life failing to fill that hole.
I'm so sorry.

>>715444864
also a simile

>>715444787
>Try looking at people who are successful and those who aren't.

I can look at my dad got all his wealth true honest at work. Get fucked, friendly reminder the only reason why we are talking is that your country has lots of resources and nothing else. Otherwise, you would be like Africa.

>>715443931
Hmmm maybe you're right, if those exist I will give them a try

>>715444681
I mean in theory with what I know now I could do it , build an a.i. electronically disconnected from the the computer so no anti cheat drm can detect it and pure computer vision for input and some servos physically pushing buttons so all the same debouncing stuff look the same

Anyone who defends cheating is a turd worlder
Sportsmanship is an exclusively white value

Pic related is why cheating is so rampant now. The sooner we firewall off these subhumans the better.

>>715435483
EULAs are bullshit and non-binding. I am not entering into a contract with the fucking publisher, I am purchasing a product with reasonable expectations appropriate to the nature of the product. Making long EULAs with bullshit terms nobody can be reasonably expected to read is a dark pattern and do not hold up to scrutiny. I once refunded software because they broke some core functionality and the EULA had a term about blah blah no refunds blah blah functionality subject to change. I cited appropriate law and got a refund via Visa. They tried to dispute and got told them to get fucked.
The reason you'd not get a refund after getting banned for cheating is that there is a reasonable expectation not to cheat not because EULA says so. You can't cover every edge case and there is a concept in law of reasonable expectation. Like, you can't sell rotten food just because you said on the box it's rotten.

>>715444864
That's not a diagram you fucking idiot. How braindead are you?

>>715434084 (OP)
>Completely undetectable
"Before you sit down and play the rules require you to weigh your controller. Sir, what seems to be the problem? Place the controller on the scales sir."

>>715445095
cheating was worse in the 90s and early 2000s than it is now so that chart doesn't prove the point you think it does

>>715445105
>I'm purchasing a product
You're purchasing a license, dumb fuck.

>>715445219
diagram

>>715445226
>"Before you sit down and play the rules require you to weigh your controller. Sir, what seems to be the problem? Place the controller on the scales sir."
"Get out of my fucking house or I will call the police"

>>715445219
Looks like a diagram to me.

>>715434365
End user license agreement
This is why Linux users hate the EULA and prefer the GPL-v2

>>715444875
Sounds like a cope and seethe.
Trump doesn't seem too miserable.
In fact, he seems to be having the widest smile of any human on the planet on his face, while flying around on a literal golden plane he got as a gift from a good friend.

>>715444271
Being ruthless is actually a skill if you weren't born a psychopath

Most people are unable to switch off empathy, even if its for a utilitarian purpose and will fuck themselves by not wanting to hurt their opponent in a business negotiation for example

>>715445226
people could jist be more careful about the weight. they should just do like they do in poker where they just use a fresh deck each game.

>>715445236
>cheating was worse in the 90s and early 2000s than it is now so that chart doesn't prove the point you think it does

Bullshit, I can count on one hand how many cheaters I've encountered in SC BW, WC3 or WoW vanilla. Diablo 2 however had more not cheaters, but scammer, because you could make money with the game.

i miss when noob dog used to cheat on cs

i miss stgggs


is there anyone worth while to watch anymore that griefs on games?

>>715434365
Fuck off retard, we all know you're pretending to be a fuckface to make SKG look worse.

>>715445316
>Trump doesn't seem miserable
Lmao he looks absolutely miserable at all times
Have you read his biography?
His life has been an absolute shit show of parental abuse, mob patsy work, constant mockery, paranoia (he eats fast food because he's afraid of being poisoned), and speed-related incontinence.
You could not possibly have picked a better example of someone that has never been happy.

>>715439382
>spend time practicing and improving at game
>vs pressing one button and letting a macro do that for you
Letting the third world use the internet was a mistake. Online games have gone nothing but downhill ever since.

>>715445350
No, you're just a psychopath. Having no empathy is a sign of a psychopath, see Putin.

>>715434345
Honestly the cheaters that get giga autistic about HvH "rivalries" are alright. Cheaters vs cheaters and they take it hilariously seriously.

>>715445350
Do you ever complain about immigrants?

>>715445316
>Trump doesn't seem too miserable.
guy *looks* like he feels like shit all the time

>>715445236
>cheating was worse in the 90s and early 2000s than it is now
I run into a dozen cheaters daily in the games I play.

>>715439690
>>715440472
>you both pick the right move
>one person fucks the input because they're doing it manually
>the other doesn't because they're using a macro
Your point is fucking stupid and so are you.
>>715445640
Actually HvH autists have some of the highest concentration of insufferable trannies and homos ever and they're extremely annoying.

>competition is done exclusively through standardized hardware, software and equipment that the organization and competition venue provide and competitors have no access to until it's showtime

Why wouldn't this work?

>>715434216
>>715438363
>>715438518
>>715440532
What's a Twitter? I don't think any platform exists that's called that.

>>715444016
If the other guy cheats and you don't, you lose. You might have the "moral high ground", but you still lose. And winning is all that matters. History is written by the winners.

>>715445703
>>you both pick the right move
>>one person fucks the input because they're doing it manually
>>the other doesn't because they're using a macro
>Your point is fucking stupid and so are you.
But we're both the same MMR so that's already accounted for. If the player has a tendency to miss inputs, that will be offset by the rest of his skillset so it's still fair

>>715446023
So what you're telling me is that you're so unfathomably shit at video games that you're playing in an MMR with players who regularly fuck their inputs despite using macros? That sounds like complete bullshit anyway and pure cope to justify your cheating. I think people who macro their recoil in games like Apex legends fall into the exact same category as you.
>oh it's okay mmr accounts for them having 0 recoil and laser beaming everyone because good players can do that too
>ignoring the uncountable hours of practice and legit gameplay it took to acquire that skill
That's pure brown retard logic. Get it the fuck together.

>>715445285
Diagrams are symbolic, your picture is metaphorical. They're not the same thing.
Metaphors are implicit and are transfer the relation between sets of objected to another set. Similes are direct comparisons.
If you illustrate the set {1,2,3} with letters A, B and C this is a bijection and you're focusing on how the sets relate to another, the members itself don't matter and can be replaced with something else. You're concerned with the structure, not members. If you're comparing 4 to 5 you're comparing them directly and aren't focusing on the relationship but members itself.
In your picture there's a bijection of the abstract concept of equity and box count per person based on their height. It's not a direct comparison. It's a metaphor.
A diagram focuses on visualization, it is the opposite of metaphorical. It replaces ideas, concepts, actions etc with abstract objects to e.g. illustrate flow or some hierarchy.
Have you never seem a diagram? Did you not go to school?

>>715445514
>>vs pressing one button and letting a macro do that for you
I think the much bigger problem here is that he is absolutely incompetent at the role he gained. Which is the actual real problem with the argument that "Anything that gets you ahead is good". Because it results in situation where the things that get you ahead may be different or straight up contradictory to abilities to preform your role they are expected to perform.

If you can bribe and cheat your way into a position of power, then you are almost certainly not the best person to actually hold that power, since you have already shown no moral integrity, no respect for principles of fairness, no trustworthiness, and you have manifested zero skill in leadership. That is a guaranteed way to end up with a very bad leader. Ergo, it's something that goes against the interest of the very system at stakes.

Who gives a shit if the orange man is happy or not. His actions will directly impact happiness of billions of other people, including you yourself, depending on his actual competency at the job. It's going to become YOUR problem if he turns out to be incompetent. That is why YOU need to be very fucking invested in making sure the selection system selects based on skills YOU need him to have (for your own sake).

Success is not the goal. Success is a heuristic that helps us estimate ones competency. If success can be achieved by ways that don't actually require competency, then the system isn't working and we are going to pay for that.

>>715445278
No, retard. I am purchasing a digital product. That's what the fucking law says unless you live in some shithole with no consumer protection. And no I don't mean EU good US bad, many states have such laws ratified unless you live in some bumfuck red state.

>>715434803
>guy next to you is using a scooter
>hits you in the face with a baseball bat
>runs off
hmm

>>715446334
>Diagrams are symbolic, your picture is metaphorical. They're not the same thing.
it's a diagram of a metaphor. Are you unable to work with two different concepts at the same time?

>this entire thread
what is it with zoomers and wanting to cheat so excessively?

>>715446564
real answer is probably fried brains from all the instant gratification in their lives

>>715446564
They can't compete, life outside a video game is a humiliation ritual for them.

>>715445460
real nigga

>>715446564
It's a form of socially transmitted narcissism. A general set of social values and normatives that actively teaches young people to always think themselves above everyone else. Zoomies want to cheat because nobody ever told them that persuing your own gratification over anything else is not a good thing, in fact they are actively encouraged to do just that.

>>715434084 (OP)
Why would you let someone take apart your controller if you know there's a hardwired cheat device in there? Did they think it wouldn't be spotted or did the person who owned it not even know?

>>715446540
>diagram of a metaphor
Everyone can tell it's still you even if you stop namefagging when you say shit like this.
If you finished school and did something beyond being a retarded autist on /v/, you'd know that diagrams are implicitly logical or schematic. It's not a fucking diagram if you're not visualizing something. You aren't smart by pointing at a square and calling it a rectangle.
You are this site's dumbest namefag and everyone always shits on you in every thread you appear in. What motivates you? Is it some kind of humiliation fetish?

Cheating is just another version of stealing.
You're either a nigger who thinks rules don't apply to you, or you're a white who understands doing stupid shit like stealing hurts everyone and it's not worth it.

>>715446564
There's a terminal velocity to "everyone else cheats, so it's actually really unfair that you judge me for cheating".

>>715446564
They've been lead to believe winning in a video game matters. For them games aren't about fun.

>>715446881
hiw did we end up with another boomer generation?

>>715445514
>he eats fast food because he's afraid of being poisoned
Ignoring the obvious jokes about fast food being poison, this seems really retarded. Fast food comes into contact with more strangers than almost any other kind of prepared food. If anything the fact that he reliably and consistently eats fast food makes him even easier to poison since you can just poison entire batches of burgers and fries instead of single, specific meals.

>>715447098
poisoning huge swathes of food is exactly why he only eats fast food, he's not being specifically targeted regardless

also he's a fat retard addicted to fast food and frames it as a personal safety measure

>>715446464
>Digital product
That isn't a thing that exists
If it's digital it is by definition intellectual property

>>715434084 (OP)
Because white people aren't disgusting brown garbage and just like most things, online gaming is a thing whites invented and allow shitskins to enjoy.

>>715446447
Cool story bro
Literally none of that has anything to do with the fact that people without empathy are broken people incapable of happiness

>>715435851
Nobody tolerates cheating in any normal environment. That's how you get the shit kicked out of you

>>715446881
>>715446564
You're confusing "zoomer" with "Indian shitskinned retard who only got an internet connection in 2019.

>>715447086
>hiw did we end up with another boomer generation?
Because we are recreating the EXACT same ideological wave surges that generated the boomers. If you don't see the analogy between the "revolutionary year of 68" and the rise left-wing radicalism today among youth today, I am not sure what to tell you.

>>715445725
If live tournament participants are selected via online tournaments, we are back to square one, kind of.

>>715437309
>Maybe it's just underdeveloped brain thing
i think it is. i cheated when i was younger, then i just grew out of it

>>715447098
I didn't say it was a smart way to avoid being poisoned
Trump is a fucking retard
He thinks the body has a limited store of energy granted at birth and that exercise kills you by depleting it

>>715445368
>Diablo 2 however had more not cheaters, but scammer
Depends on how you define cheaters. There were a fuckton of botters and practically everyone used maphack. And let's not forget about all those dupes.

>>715445960
fake and gay cope

>>715434803
>go to public bath
>anon next to me is being a faggot
>I rape him
>it doesn't stop him from enjoying his bath
>it doesn't invalidate his personal sense of acheivement from getting made the bitch boy he is
>he probably enjoyed himself too

>>715436053
Based

>>715436198
>shitskin thinks fair play and rule following is a dogmatic issue
LOL

>>715434084 (OP)
Because it ruins everybody's experience

>>715448407
um not mine as the cheater? i cannot understand why something that is good for me but bad for everyone could rile people up this way. its good for me? dont u get it

>>715442962
>>715443361
Where's the youtube video by someone you never heard of recommended to everyone titled
>how one man DESTROYED this game's speedrun history
on this?

Because when you enter into competitive PvP you and the other side implicitly make a gentlemans agreement to play by the same rules with the same toolkit, that being what's naturally in the game, in the interest of fairness.

>>715448517
No no no saarr the thing that matters is that I feel bug and not like a tiny, weak little shitskinned rape goblin.

Bladdy benchod

The real question is, why has bunny hopping in games not been made illegal yet? You need time to learn it and fast PC too to master it. Why is it still allowed after all these years and not considered cheating?

>>715445725
Kikes. E-sports wants sponsorships. They wanna sponsor players and teams.

>>715437309
I think this played a part. I only ever cheated in one game and it was combat arms. I was like 10 back then and there were so many cheaters in that game it may as well be the actual way to play the game

>>715448613
because its not against the rules to do inputs by hand. installing external software in order to gain an advantage is

>>715448613
If it's within the mechanics of the game (not bug/glitch abuse, etc.) or influenced by 3rd party software then why shouldn't it be allowed?

>>715446564
Lead in the vapes when they were teens.
They are the leadbrain boomer 2.0.
Alfies will be the 3.0 and they will be even worse since their cool kids have started huffing lead as pre-teens.

>>715449307
Anon, it's nothing to donwith vapes.

The guys ITT defending cheating are shitskins, russians and spics. They're getting increasingly online and so we will continue to run into more brown retards who run telemarketing scams by day and aimbot FPS games by night

>>715434216
374 4eplies btw. This is what engages the brown zoomers

>>715449436
funny how your ok with racism against indians but draw the line at cheating in video games. i think you need to reexamin your morals

>>715434216
>>715434293
>>715435479
>buncha newfags think this is a new development.
This has been a thing since /v/s inception. Of course back then it was screenshots from Gamefaqs, Neogaf, IGNboards, Gamespot Forums, Youtube comments and basically any place a user could leave a comment.
I remember vividly having wild discussions in thread after thread because someone screenshotted some random nobody leaving a comment somewhere that consoles are much more powerful despite inferior hardware, because when devs know what hardware they are deving for they can create a game that looks twice as good as a game made for a much stronger graphics card.
Or threads about that one fag who keept posting how amazing the water looked under every video game.

>>715436471
>sweden, norway, germany are the control group, with cheater quotients approaching 0%
There is a pretty big cheating scene in germany, at least for CS
idk about the other 2 though

>American Republican
>Demonizes others for cheating
>When Trump is his lord and savior

>>715447297
>Literally none of that has anything to do with the fact that people without empathy are broken people incapable of happiness
That is very demonstrably false. There are plenty of different ways to achieve happiness, and while a lot of them are rooted in social harmony (we are a hyper-social species after all), there are plenty that aren't dependent on it. There is an insane number of cases where people found complete bliss in completely asocial actions. In fact, we used to very actively venerate those people for a long time.

In fact people incapable of empathy probably do have an easier time achieving happiness because being consistently attuned to emotions of others means you are also attuned to their sorrows and pains, as well as rewarded for said harmony.

The issue isn't that psychopaths and autists can't be happy.
It's just that they are, in most cases, active threats to everyone around them. That is the only reason why we villify them: because they are a massive potential risk. It's not because they are unhappy.

We like to lie to ourselves by saying "uh I bet they aren't happy" because that makes us feel better about ourselves, and steer us away from jealousy, but it isn't true, and isn't what matters. What matters is our security. To which they pose a threat.

>>715435479
It keeps happening because mods and jannies do fucking nothing about it.

>>715449994
maybe they're the ones making these threads

>>715449994
And why should they? X threads don't break any rules.

>>715434556
>leverless controllers for 50€ now have firmware configurable in the browser that can setup macros etc.

it's over. back then you needed at least some technical know-how, now every retard can set this up. at this point, playing classic controls + modern supers is basically free

>>715434470
Why do you assume is *not* about trolling? Everytime I watch one of those videos interviewing cheaters, they all say they do it 'cuase they can.

Man /v/ is made up of whiny bitches now, I guess that's zoomers for you.

>>715450468
>t. cheater and scammer

>>715434470
I do it for money
I keep my bots hidden because I know people don't like them

>>715444665
iirc she took the bus which is even funnier

>>715436471
>germany
>0%
germans spearheaded private cheats for 1.6 and css together with the dutch, easily 3/4 of lan safe cheats very coded by dutchoids
you are out of your element

>>715447396
Right-wing ideology is more prevalent among young people today, especially among males. The truth is that narcissism works in both left- and right-wing circles - it's more about collectivism vs. individualism. You can't ignore capitalism's role in fostering rampant individualism - it's the prevailing societal model in the west and it's done a number on both lefties and righties because it's eroded the factors that made our societies high-trust and stable. Ultimately, we've seen this before with other ideologies - it's just capitalism's turn this time.

>>715434470
The vast majority of people do not have human souls. They don't understand that hurting others hurts them as well. They are incapable of understanding this universal truth.

>southern america - cheater quotient 12.5%
Bro's never played a MMO

>>715434556
>>99% of players are cheaters
noob ? 5% at most

>>715434246
I think he was Zeus and the other God's father.

>>715437989
That pastry is making me nut honestly. Looks delicious.

>>715449770
Nah, Indians are rapey streetshitting invaders. Deport them all from my country and maybe I'll go back to only lowkey hoping India gets nuked.

>>715451561
>The truth is that narcissism works in both left- and right-wing circles
True, but the discourse right now is entirely pretty much entirely dominated by the left. Once there is an actual radical right wing movement approaching a tipping point into destructivity, I'll happily raise my issue against them. But that is not what we need to worry about right now.

>it's more about collectivism vs. individualism.
It actually isn't, and it never was. That is an entirely false dichotomy. Current day left is all about hyper-individualism while what little passes for current day right is actually about collectivism.

What it really is, and always was about, is cybernetics. The role and implementation of self-regulatory systems within a society. The radical left completely despise the notion of cybernetic elements of a society, the radical right vastly over-estimates them. The objectively correct solution is maintaining a dynamic equilibrium between the two, though that actually does mean that on the fundamental level, right will always be closer to truth, since an objectively correct political direction is one that is self-regulating at core. It's just that the process of self-regulation cannot be maintained without occasional directive interventions. What most radical right get wrong is the fact that interventionalism is actually one of the many potential tools of self-regulation.

But back to the issue of socially transmited narcissim. That is a result of left being unchecked. Entirely. Nothing do with capitalism. It's a result of the exact same process outlined above in discussion of collapse of public morals in China. The exact same thing happened in all socialist countries in the world, by the way. It's just that in China it went into an even bigger extreme because Chinese society always had proclivity towards this kind of absurdly top-down structured outlook of morals, so when Communism rolled it, it amplified everything.

>>715438387
Whats the point of hovering your crosshair over guy behind texture you cant penetrate?
Jesus christ you are straight up retarded.
EVEN IF he made perfect read and knew they guy was there you still keep your crosshair near exist, because its the only place that guy can come from.

>>715437889
There is literally 0 reason to move your crosshair from exit point.
Shroud was clearly cheating

CS:GO and 2 is rotten exports btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LcOiLipzoA
This guy became world champion and nobody bothered to check him

>>715452569
Must be shit being one of the jeets whos family left 100 years ago to escape the poopit just to get lumped in with the low caste retards nowadays because for some fucking reason multiple countries looked at the actual shitflingers who were deliberately left behind back in the day and thought "yeah we need these guys."

>>715434803
its like boxing and ur opponent has brass knuckles in his glove

>>715451003
botting is lodsa fun, just looking at your bots run around like ants is entertainment itself

>>715434531
>it's fun
why?
explain where the fun comes from

>>715434882
>superior tactics
you cheated tho
so the "win" is meaningless

>>715452752
>call put jeets
>self-hating jeets accuse you of being one them
lmao, even jeets can't.imagine somebody worse than another jeet

Look at how >>715436471 didn't mention kikes and specially pajeets. :^)

>>715453307
>even jeets can't.imagine somebody worse than another jeet
no shit retard, why do you think they made the caste system in the first place?
Some jeets are just too jeet.

>>715453578
All jeets are too jeet. All.

>>715453380
ran out of characters to complain about everyone

i barely see any indians or israelis in games though. some of these populations legit cant reach high ranks even with cheats on, so that might be it. if you play competitive games then you simply stop seeing iranians and turks the higher you get in rank, and the few you see are usually account buyers

>>715453659
nah they can be domesticated.
compare the westernized jeet. he contents himself by jerking off in a public theater and stealing womens socks. meanwhile a wild jeet is a turbo rapist for who any holes a goal, man or woman, animal, alive or dead.

>>715452685
This video doesn't prove anything

>>715453791
>describes two sex criminals
No, those are the same thing. One cannot westernize the jeets, they are profoundly flawed people.

I stopped playing FPS online because there are too many cheaters. It's just a shitty genre where cheating is too prevalent and easy to do.

>>715453817
>1x1
>situation where its insanely important to keep low profile
>pro player snaps to guy behind boxes (he KNOWS DAMN WELL he can penetrate) and shoots
>was probably panic LMB after using aim assistance
>proceeds to look ONLY at that direction (even thou its perfectly possible the enemy guy can come though ramp

>This video doesn't prove anything
People like you should be euthanized

>>715454183
He was either coming through the boxes or the ramp, it's literally a 50/50 chance. You're the kind of guy who would accuse you of cheating after losing a coin flip

>>715438169
donissant

>>715434084 (OP)
shut the fuck up tunes

>>715454334
Are you dumb? Did you miss flusha panic shot through boxes?

>>715449873
Big cope from a sad psycho

>>715450136
Because Twitter isn't vidya. Nor is Reddit. Nor is TikTok.
If there are actual news, then sure have off-site stuff, but these days newfags have a need to spam shit from other social media sites here. That's why nobody makes anything in /v/ anymore when everything comes from Twitter/Reddit/TikTok.

>>715454713
>Because Twitter isn't vidya. Nor is Reddit. Nor is TikTok.
Video game controllers are on-topic.

>>715434365
Buddy, I could ask you to not say words containing "g" in my place of business. You say "game" just once and you get a life ban. Simple as

Cheaters cheat because they wouldn't stand a chance otherwise.

>>715452083
that's Kronos you nigger

>>715455701
Also spelled Chronus.

>>715455753
Κρόνος in greek so Kornos is closer so I win

>>715445960
Depending on the nature of the cheat, you can still beat a cheater.
If you lose while cheating, you truly gotta accept that you're fucking awful at whatever game you're playing though, and you have no right to talk shit to anyone.

>>715456027
Morals are a cage for the weak.

>>715438367
No, they are not even remotely similar. Live service games might be cocaine but gacha games are fucking crack mixed with fentanyl.

>if you're cheating that means you're bad at the game!
Imagine having your sense of self worth tied to a virtual time passer. I don't mind using cheats precisely due to the fact that I don't care about being better than some random person the matchmaking algorithm paired me up against, I just want to see enjoyable images and sounds coming out of my computer screen. My worth comes from what I do for my work, what I do for my children as a father and so on

>>715457152
You suck at games lol

>>715434747
All gaming is like that. The game actually plays you. Its all good internet, good hardware and of the server likes you. You arent doing anything, your isp, computer and the game are, youre a rat pressing a button infront of a screen.

If the games just had more to them than the ONE fucking multiplayer mode it wouldn’t even matter. People loved accidentally getting modded maps in old games because if you got pissed you could play local. Modern games SUXK

>>715454713
The topic is still vidya related with the controller.
What you dislike is the medium being used.

A thread that discusses how Musk ruined Twitter or whether TikTok should be banned is off-topic, I agree. Then the topic is Twitter or TikTok.

>>715457152

>>715454662
I think you need to get checked for braindamage.

>>715437337
>You do realize that hand to eye coordination is a very useful skill in real life, right?

Are you in middle school Anon?

>>715437789
>>Can you show me where it says I can't massacre the opposing team with a hellfire missile anywhere in the rules of football?

>>715434216
Zoomers and their consequences have been a disaster to 4chan.

>>715457152
If your worth comes from being a father you shouldn't care enough about losing a game to cheat, hypocritical faggot

>>715457152
your wife's children must be so proud of you