Thread 715504372

On this episode of Death of a Game, we're going to be covering what was once the most popular MMORPG in the world and how it all came tumbling down.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWlcUIw5xI8

So this dude has been completely tearing this game and the entire dev team apart these past few weeks. Thoughts?

>>715504372 (OP)
asmon dropped it and so did we, nothing more needs to be said.

>>715504442
He's probably secretly a Trancer but everything he's saying in his vid's is 100% correct unironically.

>>715504442
Yoshi P sisters......our response?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgfM5RAM-I

>>715504442
completely embarrassing reddit history consisting primarily of habitual replying to anything even slightly positive in opinion about the game, and definitely a zodiark trancer

having strong opinions on mare synchronus and "nightclubs" automatically excludes you from any serious conversation about the game

it is only a matter of time until they are invited to the same discord server as volkeroathsworn and all the other dick-riders that still believe the game will die in two weeks, four years later

my most fervent hope is that one of the FFXIV figureheads like foxclon or yoshida himself puts a spotlight on one of these people and just laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs. giving them the attention they so crave at the same time as they are publicly humiliated

bumping this thread so others can suffer like i did seeing these schizo shitposts

>>715504372 (OP)
We ain't dead yet!!!

>>715504372 (OP)
finally

Does every doomer seriously think they won't course correct? That 8.0 won't be an improvement over 7.0?

>>715505249
worse

every doomer thinks 7.X isn't better than 6.X

>>715505293
As far as battle content goes, 7.0 is the best it's ever been
I mean, the story for the alliance raid may suck, but it's more fun than any of the EW ones

>>715504442
Literally everything in this video is correct.

>>715504372 (OP)
I like Final Fantasy 14

>>715505826
AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>715504907
>having strong opinions on mare synchronus and "nightclubs" automatically excludes you from any serious conversation about the game
Disliking degenerate modbeast communities that have overtaken the game makes your opinion invalid? You come across almost like you're sympathetic to said communities and are trying to downplay their degeneracy.

>my most fervent hope is that one of the FFXIV figureheads like foxclon or yoshida himself puts a spotlight on one of these people and just laughs and laughs and laughs and laughs. giving them the attention they so crave at the same time as they are publicly humiliated

Of course you would, White-knight kun. I notice all you did was dismiss the entire video, but not actually adress any points actually made. Because you have no counter-argument, only dismissal.

Deny

Downplay

Dismiss.

The GCBTW's mantra.

>>715506264
Oh, Jesus, you should be on AO3 and Wordpress, not 4chan.

>>715506264
i am not watching your clickbait and AI narrated videos

>>715505249
>Does every doomer seriously think they won't course correct? That 8.0 won't be an improvement over 7.0?
Why would ANYONE trust the devs at this point? Are you stupid? "Bro they'll TOTALLY fix everything next expansion, just trust them!" No, fuck you, and fuck THEM as well. Shut the literal fuck up, nobody but the biggest and dumbest shit eaters like you still have any confidence, they've had enough chances. They need to show what they have planned for 8.0 sooner rather than later if they want to even HOPE of regaining player trust.

>>715505398
>As far as battle content goes, 7.0 is the best it's ever been


WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT THE JOBS (which you actually experience said battle content through) HAVE BEEN DUMBED DOWN AND HOMOGENIZED INTO OBLIVION, AND THE "CONTENT" ITSELF HAS BEEN REDUCED TO ROTE MEMORIZATION OF DDR MECHANICS AND BODYCHECKS GALORE. HOW THE FUCK IS THE BATTLE CONTENT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THE "BEST IT'S EVER BEEN"? Are you actually fucking serious right now? It's one of the WORST, if not the WORST part of the game right now, it's a bigger issue than even the dogshit story because unlike the story the battle content is what carries the game post MSQ, but it's utterly fucked right now.

>>715504372 (OP)
>>715504442
I guess it's too late to start playing this game?
I'm having that MMORPG itch right now.

Remember when the localization had SOUL?

And just like clockwork, the Dawntrail Defense Force has arrived. Do they ever sleep? I hope they're getting paid at least.

>>715506331
>>715506443
Still no counter-arguments.

ho, shit, speaking ill of that failed youtuber really set off the local clown

>>715506552
it's in an alright state. you can play a fuckton of it for free, so see if it filters you first, which it might.

ho, shit, speaking ill of that failed director really set off the local knight

Any scenery in FFXIV that's like this?

>>715506498
>the all caps raging
lmao it's just a game, not your entire life bro

>>715507575
>lmao it's just a game, not your entire life bro

>Anon rebukes your cope about the content being better
>No counter-argument, just "lol u mad"?
Classic FFXIV whiteknight behavior.

Do you mod you're game?

Speiner Weiner, on the bun, who's the trooniest one of all?

>>715504372 (OP)
My shits are more interesting than this game, they should make an MMO about my shits instead.

I had fun at launch, but even then it was overly simplistic and full of shitters

>>715504442
this is the person who keeps making all of these threads isn't it

>>715504372 (OP)
>World of Warcraft
>Adds furfags in Cataclysm
>Game turns to shit
>Final Fantasy XIV
>Adds furfags in D*wntrail
>Game turns to shit
Guys I'm nooooticing a pattern.

>>715504372 (OP)
>most popular MMORPG in the world
for like 3 weeks?

The clearest sign of the death of this game is the decline in quantity and quality of gooner mods. Back during Endwalker you could hop on the mod archive or the pirate archive any day and find the most outrageous new outfits. Now most of the new stuff on the public archive is from one troon who thinks if he cuts of womens breasts then they're the same as him and the pirate archive gets a few new trash pieces a week, often for fags with male characters.

>>715504372 (OP)
>On this episode of Death of a Game
He is a massive faggot with Pirate Software levels of ego

>>715504372 (OP)
>what was once the most popular MMORPG in the world
Bullshit.
>XIV highest high
>around 1.2 million active characters (not subs)
>WoW highest high
>12 million active subs

Even on it's lowest low WoW had more active subs than XIV had active characters.
OSRS is still the best MMORPG. And even OSRS has more players than XIV.

PSO2roon thread.

>>715504372 (OP)
FF6 is the only good FF. literally flawless

There hasn't been a good final fantasy game in over 20 years now

>>715513140
XII was 2006, dummy. Learn to math.

>>715511221
But Hrothgar and Viera were added in Shadowbringers, arguably the best expansion.

>>715504442
If they bought back Athena I'd resub tomorrow

>>715513430
She really should have been a spider instead of a moth.

Major issues
>lack of reinvestment into XIV, diverted resources to other games
>long patch cycles
>inability to deviate from patch formula
>inability to deviate from MSQ formula
>bad MSQ writing
>lack of communication from devs
>not acknowledging common player feedback
>not enough content for casuals
>homogenised jobs (supposedly for raid balance, but raiders generally hate the job changes)

Other issues
>Mr. Ozma's obsession with difficulty: caused CAR to flop, caused FTB to flop, limited the audience for Criterions, caused Eureka Orthos to flop, caused raider burnout with the DSR-p8s-TOP gauntlet
>no live translations of LLs
>server maintenance
>DC travel without cross-DC party finder
>losing your house if you unsubscribe
>shitty glamour system
>abandoned content (GC, Gold Saucer, etc)
>new blacklist fumble
>shitty cash shop

Not an issue
>DT dungeons are too hard
>new relic is too grindy
>people use plugins
>there are modbeasts on balmung
>streamers exist
>subscription fee
>diverted resources to XIV Mobile (no, it's licensed and devved by China)
>hair/gear clipping
>there are bots (every MMO has this)

Good things
>Arcadion raids
>there is actually more content in DT even if it has mixed reception
>graphics update
>story is getting a bit better as of 7.2, Wuk will be shelved after 7.3
>finally fixing viera/hroth hats
>uhhhhhh...

>>715511789
XIV's highest high was 1.7M active endgame characters. That's not accounts but it also doesn't count F2Ps and non-endgame characters.
We don't have data on WoW's lowest low sub count, nor do we have data on WoW's current sub count.
I believe it's likely that XIV beat WoW during that WoWfugee/covid period and then WoW recovered while XIV stagnated. Certainly XIV was briefly more culturally relevant and influential during that period.

>>715514398
>shadman

>>715514129
the game is fine troony trancer

>>715507456
yes

>>715509397
Seriously, does nobody use normal mods? Are only the bad ones posted here? If I had a Hrothgar, I would change its anatomy to a more feminine one, with more curves, and that's it.

>>715514796
Bad mods are funny so bad mods get posted here. I just give my middie thicker thighs and a flat chest.

>>715514796
I use some hair mods and I'm only synced with my FC. They mostly just have slightly bigger tits, bare feet and some job animations. If you want to see those modbeasts you need to seek them out at nightclubs or by joining a big public syncshell.

What kind of fat cuck wastes his whole life grinding every job in a dead nip mmo? Maining bitch healer, no less. K E K

>>715514796
plenty of people use more reasonable stuff but mostly the bad ones get posted because they're funny to laugh at

>>715515092
If you did a levelling dungeon every time you made this post, you too could have every job at max level.

>>715505826
based

>>715515092
>Not using AutoDuty to not play the game so you can do your Gacha shit.

>>715515092
cuckoli is a known /xivg/ lolcow and diaperfag

>>715504442
That is a Trancer. Can't believe they are still seething.

>>715504372 (OP)
barry won

>>715504442
thats probably your channel but that 1st vid is based
https://youtu.be/ET7trucBjts?si=EzToRpUCyD8fPqg3

>this game is dead!!
>spends every hour of every day seething about it with the same posts and same images
Pretty impressive for a dead game.

OH GOD I'M GONNA DOOOOOMP
I'M DOOOOMPING AAAAAA

>>715515474
Apparently that's kind of a bait and switch and it looks like shit in-game.

>>715515425
Turns out all it took to kill the game was 5 years of 300+ posts per day on /v/, getting laughed at on the XIV forums and repeatedly banned from reddit, making an AI slop youtube channel, promoting Kate's tweets to an audience 10x larger than she would otherwise have, visiting Balmung on a modbeast safari, and for the MSQ writers to make a shit expansion.

>Occult Crescent items going back up in price
Uh oh... are people done with the content...?

>>715504372 (OP)
World of Warcraft has never not been the most popular MMO, by far.

its insane how bad the MSQ and quests in general are gameplay wise compared to literally any other mmo.

>>715515710
Oh please. There are no good MMO quests.

>>715515742
>There are no good MMO quests

>>715515742
Secret World had good quests, shame about the game itself.

>>715515816
kek I forgot about this

>>715515184
>niggers ITT are still subbed to kate's game
>in the year of our lord 2014+11

Thoughts on the recently released oldschool MMO Embers Adrift?

Hey Bazzfag post the pictures you have when you "stumbled upon" a Yoshida lookalike in /gif/ ladyboy threads.

>>715515742
wrong

>>715515893
>Yoshida
>working on multiple projects
As expected the execs are retarded, Yoshida shouldn't be working on anything else after the XVI blunder.

>>715506498
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
ur ghey lmaao

>>715516017
This isn't Barry, it's the trancer AthenaAria who's been upset about the game since 6.0 due to the depiction of Hydaelyn.

>>715516072
It's what SE does. The moment one of their devs gets known or popular they put him on all sorts of projects until he burns out.
Maybe it's a Jap thing? I dunno

>>715509397
i use the speech bubbles

>>715516109
Oh. One of those people that were pissed she wasn't the big bad?

>>715516112
>Jap thing
oh yeah, there was something similar with that one gypsy Yakuza dev who ran Sakura Wars into the ground

>>715516160
hey lazy faggot at least post the updated version

I wish SE had brought over DQX to the global audience. A Dragon Quest MMO would be my dream MMO.
Buncha faggots.

>>715515918
its time to play all FF games instead of another MMO

>>715516254
I will never play FFXV

>>715516307
it should be an enemy in FF17 and you get to massacre him. FF17 should be M rated again but with blood and gore and the finishing moves eviscerate enemies in the new and (based) turn based system.

Has this folder dumping acheived anything?

HE MAD

I wish they would update the shop UI. I counted the number of items you can purchase from a scrip exchange earlier. It's over 900, spread into dozens of different menus. If I look up where to buy something and it says "scrip exchange" online, I'm almost no better off than I was before, because I might have to look through several different inventories where the item might be.
And there are many merchants like that. I think it would legitimately be better if everything in the scrip exchange were in one big inventory that was searchable, sortable, and filterable.
I also bet that the server provides the client with a list of items every time you open one of these shops; that's probably why they are so small. Instead, there could be a spreadsheet with a list of items and related metadata that is kept in the game directory and updated with expansions/patches. That way, all the items could be loaded instantly and it wouldn't require sending a lot of data from the server. The server would just check that you are in proximity to the merchant and are able to actually purchase the item you have selected when you attempt to make the purchase.

>>715514261
>I believe it's likely that XIV beat WoW during that WoWfugee/covid period and then WoW recovered while XIV stagnated. Certainly XIV was briefly more culturally relevant and influential during that period.

>>715516485
It literally was more culturally relevant. Everyone was talking about it even normies. WoW was seen as a punchline.

>>715516441
>mod gamefiles to add all ultimate weapons to the scrip vendor for 1 scrip each
Nothing personnel ultitrannies

>>715516524
FFXIV wasnt cultural relevant at all.

WoW was a world wide phenomenon in the mid 00s - early 10s like Pokemon in the late 90s.

>>715516541
At least read the whole post before you critique it.
>The server would just check that you are in proximity to the merchant and are able to actually purchase the item you have selected when you attempt to make the purchase.

>>715514562
I was also thinking of Bozja during Cid's memory walk

>>715516485
You should have seen /wowg/ during that time, it was hilarious. Almost every post was about XIV and the jannies eventually gave up moderating it.
Remember this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cMkQRBknto
Every single WoW community on every website was just talking about XIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIVXIV for a few months.

>>715516628
>left
>AI woman
>right
>a real woman

>>715516541
It would just do validation at the point of purchase instead of at the point of displaying the shop, dumbass.

>>715516820
Nooooooo you can't just remove him from a position he have complained about being forced into and wanted to leave for years.

>>715516703
you know WoW had a cultural impact way beyond Reddit and gaming forums. Back in 2008 you could go to almost any concert no matter the genre and start a conversation about WoW with random guys and girls.

I still miss that time. I remember going to Underground in Cologne and talking with one of the guys from Epica (they played before Korpiklaani) about WoW and random people just joined in. A few months before that, I had long chats with people at WDR (Westdeutscher Rundfunk) about the game. Or I could be at a rap concert in the Netherlands and just start talking about WoW people would get it. Even most of our teachers at college were playing WoW.

Now try doing that with FFXIV. Go to a rock or rap concert and start talking about Tesleen or how awesome the new XIV raid is no one will have a clue what you are talking about.

>>715516957
> Dick the birthday boy
Oh no, Rich

>>715516995
Yeah no shit, which is why if you read the post chain you'll see we were just talking about during that covid period where all the WoW players were hardcore dooming and half of them came to try out XIV. No MMO will ever be as culturally relevant as WoW at it's peak but that's not what we were talking about.

>>715506687
>having arguments with someone who openly admits to having bad faith and poisoning the well on purpose
There's no point.
Stop shilling your trash, and go look for a real job already

>>715504442
You can say he's obsessed but you can't call him wrong. He is 100% correct in what he's saying which is the sad part.

>>715516628
I h8 trannies so much its unreal

>>715504372 (OP)
>he's writing fanfiction about a game that makes him mad now
Oof.

>>715515746
Xeno isn't even playing FFXIV and probably won't for a while he started playing Terra and has been having a lot of fun with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UPibuOl3dI

>>715510821
It is. Even shilled his own reddit threads here.
It's just one of the remaining 5 Trancers on year 4 of their mental breakdown.
>>715506703
>speak ill of someone
>they are angry
Shocker?

>>715506498
ENOUGH!

You know this game is fucked when all that's left is a slap fight between two autists trying to our schizo each other.
You're both as bad as each other and both look absolutely ridiculous.

>>715517398
dawntrail is obviously irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
its just the typical japanese dev shark jumping where they give up on their setting and then base all future content on vacation spots so that they can get the company to send them there for "research" purposes.
happened with pokemon as an example.
next expansion could be hawaii. or france.

He posts threads all day every single day about ff14. EVERY SINGLE DAY.

>>715516995
>anon says 14 was ONCE the most popular MMORPG in the world
>wowfag showcases his complete lack of reading comprehension and goes on to act like WoW still somehow has 12 million active subs
lmfao

>>715517023
her teeth look fucked

>>715517767
XIV wasnt even the most popular MMORPG in the world during 2019-2022.

>>715517808
Okay then what was?

>>715517663
It broke his asshole nearly 4 years ago.
He will never recover, and the only thing that will fix him is a rangeban or the loonie bin.

>>715515184
>How DARE they expect regular substantial updates rather than half assed shit half a year apart?
>That will be 60 bucks + expansion + sub + microtransactions + tip
60 dollars in sub for each update and they don't really have the value of a full game, not to mention millions of people pay for this. Even if there's only just million player that never unsub, then it's a fucking 60 million budget PER UPDATE and they're getting only worse.
When you expect me to pray premium for a product, I expect the product itself to be premium you daft cunt.

>>715516703
It was during shadowlands if I remember correctly? The lowest point wow's been at since wod. This was a fad because people looked for every way to shit on the game, but I knew it wouldn't last. Wow players are (rightfully) too attached to the smoothness, reactivity, swiftness of wow and wouldn't bear XIV's shitty slog of an engine for long

don't tell me you trancers really do this

>>715518292
reminds me of that guy on the forum who keeps buying accounts just to shitpost about the game

Why can't voting with your money be enough?

>>715518548
It's not about improving the game. It's about sending a message.
"You crossed me, yoshitpiss. And I won't stop until you rue the day you did a bad to my little wizard babies."

>>715517845
Still WoW and OSRS.

>>715518548
For most of us it is (I'm unsubbed and will only resub ~1month/year), but some people are overly attached to the game and got upset when the MSQ didn't go the way they expected. That's why you get threads like this multiple times every day for literal years.

>>715516703
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

>>715518834
You think that's an own but honestly it makes my point for me. At the time I wasn't in either the XIV or the WoW community but Shadowlands and the wowfugee crisis was such a big event that even I heard about it. It broke out of containment on /v/, and my friends who played WoW a decade prior were talking about and wanted to try XIV.

>>715518792
Or for some the MSQ didn't go the way they expected 3+ years ago.

>>715518756
Do you have proof? Numbers to back your claim? Because the only active server on retail was Proudmoore at the time and TBC Classic had an insane amount of dead servers and comically insane botting problem.
I mean I know you're trolling anyway because it took you 30 minutes to reply and OSRS has never even broken 200k subs.

>>715518983
Yeah, that's who I'm talking about. The trancers. Since then they've been looking for every excuse (valid or not) to shit on XIV and endlessly reposting them until they're run into the ground.

>>715518756
>OSRS
this shit is irrelevant outside of america, I seriously doubt it's that big

>>715518548
It works, and that's the problem

>>715519042
"ah, people didn't like dawntrail, i see. this vindicates my belief that 6.0 was le bad and venat is evil. finally i win."

>>715517398
Wasn't this guy a wowie

>>715504442
This is so funny. That channel gives me old youtube vibes. Fuck i miss it so much

>>715506552
It's actually a great time to play it. You have so many hundreds of hours ahead of you thay, by the time you get to DT, 8.0 might be out and you can just pay for a skip and never have to see DT.

>>715520132
>It's actually a great time to play it
it's gonna such when he has to wait for trials because NO ONE'S FUCKING PLAYING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>715519010
Do you have any proof for your claim? That a game like XIV was the most popular mmorpg (even when its just for a short time)

XIV faggots like you are the reason why no one takes this game and the community serious. Spouting some shit without any sources or numbers but want proof from other players. Like religious lunatics "you have to proof that our god isnt real xD".

One last note: ARR (and maybe even somewhat 1.23) was peak XIV. every three months updates full with content and new stuff. Heck, we even got three dungeons.
And what have we since the first xpac? Less and less content. Horrible overworld maps. And more and more focus and amateurish paced and written MSQ full with endless exposition.

so looks like i can't play ff16 with 1070 video, and need something better, oh well

>>715504442
>guy LARPing as an ancient using an AI/text to speech female voice and regurgitating the same old shit
ishygddt

>>715520201
Trial ques for story have always been long unless you're playing a tank or healer. Especially when they do incredibly dumb shit like release 2 dps like they always do because "making new tanks and healers is too hard :( so we're gonna use this time to completely rebalance and rework what we have until next expansion" every expansion

>>715504372 (OP)
On this episode of "Mindbroken Anon Obsessed With A Game Writing Fanfiction Where He's Victorious In His Crusade Against Said Game"

>>715520227
There is actually substantially better evidence that Jesus rose from the dead that XIV ever being the most played mmo on the planet so I would thank you to not compare the two.

What is a Trancer?

>>715520687
homos and trannies who got mad in endwalker because we didn't go back in time to save the ancients from the sundering

>The guy who designed M7 was a new hire, hired in Mid 2022 halfway through Endwalker patch
>Before that he was worked in QA in the games industry.

>>715520820
Good. Keep him around if true.

I would like to play it but I dislike the subscription model.

>>715504442
Don't shill your channel here
>>715505249
They need to get rid of Hiroi. Honestly I'll take the monkey paw of shoving him on a mainline game that takes forever to develop so that he can't touch FFXIV for half a decade
>>715505826
Same, but the content gaps have made me realize how much fun it is to play other games again. I was spending a good 80% of my gaming time on XIV up until and including Endwalker like 6.2.
>>715506552
Free Trial, lots of content to catch up on until you're burnt out, etc

what is the difference between modern XIV raids and trials?

>>715513140
Good!=Amazing so I'll say that lots of them have been good. XIII-2, Stranger of Paradise, and FFXIV through to Endwalker.
>>715516485
>>715516598
He's literally not wrong. You're retarded if you think he's wrong. FFXIV dominated every gaming discussion forum worth a damn at that time.

>>715520892
Not much I can think of, to be fair. Maybe normal raid fighters are a little harder than normal trial fights?

>>715520892
If I were to simplify it was best I can it would be the length of the fight and the error of margin.
Error of margin in Trials is far wider and it doesn't really matter too much how many times people die.
Raids are far more tighter on average and less error for margin in the dps check if people die throughout the fight it has more of an impact.

>>715520889
>They need to get rid of Hiroi.
Fairly sure they did. Or at least pushed him to the background a bit.

Real question: what can they do to keep people playing Cosmic Exploration?
What kept people playing Ishgardian Restoration?
I genuinely don't see much of a fundamental difference other than gathering feels a bit less hostile in Ishgardian Restoration and crafting feels like less of a pain in the ass in Cosmic Exploration because there's a separate inventory and you get the mats for the mission.

>>715512162
I still hate sega for how much they fucked up phantasy star in general.
A remake of PSO or the gurhal games, or a PSO2 classic should be a slam dunk, but it will never happen.

>>715505293
Endwalker was wow babby from Shadowbringers first expansion. Thus it was immune to any criticism. In reality it was one of the worst expansions in the game.
Story was bad, literally wrapped up a 10 year long story by ass pulling a new villain out of the air
Post-story patch stuff was bad
Raids were mediocre
No real relic
No real field exploration zone

It was literally just a filler expansion.

>>715520934
>He's literally not wrong. You're retarded if you think he's wrong. FFXIV dominated every gaming discussion forum worth a damn at that time.
this is even more wrong. How can people being so delusional. No one outside of the mmo community was interested in this topic. What people were interested were all the intern stuff from blizzard but not XIV.

New famitsu FF14 dev article.
https://www.famitsu.com/article/202507/47171

>>715520687
Basically someone who thinks Venat did everything wrong, but didn't get validated by 6.0

>>715521275
>Story was bad
Disagree.
>Post-story patch stuff was bad
I'd call it more like meh.
>Raids were mediocre
Disagree.
>No real relic
Agree.
>No real field exploration zone
Agree.

Other than its main story, I'd consider EW weaker than DT by a lot. Same for ShB, and same for HW.

>>715520946
>>715521020
i miss arr coil

>Recommencement of Automatic Demolition on European Data Centers
Kek they finally remembered. They disabled demolitions because of flash floods in a small region in Spain and the fuckers kept them disabled until now.
80% of the houses in Europe are going to disappear, since they disabled it right before the mass exodus after Dawntrail.

>>715521467
but... i thought yoshitpiss was keeping us hostage with houses during content lulls....

>>715521504
We are the forgotten bastard child of this game on EU, especially on Chaos.

It's going to get worse in future because they're opening a SEAmonkey server that is specific for Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan encompassing that region but not Mainland China.
So there'll be even more wasted server costs, wasted split focus across not understanding the player base e.t.c.
Really I don't understand their thinking after the failure of OCE datacentre.

>>715506557
Kate worked on ShB btw

Come Home

>>715521467
I haven't been subbed for like 300 days and finally got a notice on Gilgamesh.

>>715521658
>We are the forgotten bastard child of this game on EU
I mean, even NA demolition halt went on for months.

>>715521685
Koji was still lead English localiser until 6.1. It wasn't until Endwalker post patch that Kate was promoted to Koji's position and that's when the rot started to crawl in for us in the West.

>>715521198
Sega would never be able to make a good remake of any of those games, just look at how they completely fucked the "PSO2 Classic" inside NGS (and they even called it an "graphical upgrade").

>>715521184
>what can they do to keep people playing Cosmic Exploration?
The loot is ass. Make better loot, especially from the roulette wheel.
>What kept people playing Ishgardian Restoration?
The loot was good because once you maxed your crafters and went to work on your gatherers, you could sell the mats on top of the rewards you got for trading in scrips and even MORE rewards from the lottery. It also wasn't REQUIRED to have food and pots which are either time or gil consuming to make quick progress, although they did help. But if you wanted no time input or gil input besides BiS+materia it wasn't a necessity. Launch CE it's a necessity. Lastly, it was more braindead and netflixable. Any time I was in the mood to watch TV, I'd hop into the diadem. CE requires a lot more attention which with a several hundred hour grind can be terrifying.
> crafting feels like less of a pain in the ass in Cosmic Exploration because there's a separate inventory and you get the mats for the mission.
haha no. I had 2 macros for every Ishgard recipe by the end. I have over 100 on CE on just the two crafting classes I'm grinding out.

>>715521427
You can disagree all you want they literally added time travel and killed a bunch of characters off screen while killing a villain they spent 10 years building up at level 93 then saying it was actually because there was a bigger bad because they started deciding Ascians are actually tragic good guys.
EW was straight up the weakest expansion by far unless you count ultimates and even then quality control was beyond horrid since they were riddled with bugs.
The classes and raids on release also weren't even close to balanced which is fucking AMAZING considering they took the time to make jobs stupid easy to balance by homogenizing the fuck out of them and still somehow made it impossible to clear with a Paladin, the flagship job on the cover.

>>715521685
Yeah, and she was the one who had the "make all the pixies non-binary"-idea

>>715521685
worked on =//= lead of... she only worked on the fucking expansion and still managed to cause chaos with her stupid gender bullshit.

Yo this guy is fire.

doomtroons lost
xiv won
eat shit and die trancers

>>715521879
I think Cosmic Exploration was trying to kind of throw a wrench in the notion of "ha ha lol crafting is just using a macro and tabbing out" that caused a lot of people to dismiss it.

>>715521831
>>715521909
Doesn't matter. Koji always agreed with her.
ShB was extremely praised by you btw.

>>715522054
Yes I praised Koji's work. I haven't once praised Kate's work and never will as I think she's a piss poor translator.

>>715506264
>buy degenerate game
>pay sub to play degenerate game
>dislike degenerate players and practices
yeah it's like complaining about videogames being all similar/same while the only games you play are FIFA, whatever you say makes it invalid if you are disingenuous

>>715522005
Genuinely curious what things will look like in 7.4, in 7.5, in 8.0.
Like no matter what happens, those are all happening. And it's hard to visualize what the situation will be like at that point.
By 7.55, we should have both parts of Occult Crescent and hopefully two more raids that both have normal modes, the deep dungeon, hopefully 2 variants, beast master, 4 cosmic exploration parts, the normal raid will have ended and so will the alliance raid. We might also have the second ultimate by then.

>>715522016
I get it. And I appreciate how deep the crafting is in this game. I really do. But I'm not gonna be the one out here doing math and theorycrafting for what is it like 300+ different recipes? I just want comfy grinding on my second monitor while I watch some plotless isekai of the month on my first monitor after a 10 hour shift

>>715522223
Maybe they just need to create like a level of distance between the regular progression and the ballbusting stuff.
Like make the ballbusting stuff part of an optional prestige grind or something.

>>715522130
Literally nobody knew kate worked on ShB until way into the ShB patches. You praised the person you hate.

So what's better? More than 2 zones like Eureka, or more than 1 raid instance like Bozja?

I got into the game recently and I feel like there isn't really anything to do.
Every dungeon visit is a complete pain, the savage raids are fun but party finder is a complete pain and finding a static hasn't been pleasant either.
Apparently most people just do what they can to finish the tier and then never look back, which makes sense since the gear is only really useful in raids.
Crescent occult is utterly soulless and I cba to even try the 48 man thing that they released after all I've heard, its not like the rewards are tempting for me.
Then I set everything up to get mods going only to realize that 99% of the stuff is gooner shit, I managed to find 1 mod that was close to what I was looking and it ended up clipping horribly.
I dont even give a shit about the cringe MSQ of dawntrail.

>>715522276
You're being really weird trying for some 'gotcha'!
Because reading isn't your forte, I'll say it again I have never once praised Kate nor her work, the only person I have praised in the English localisation is Koji.
Because you're unaware does not mean other people were, how about that?

Do we agree with this?

>>715522147
the most content ever released and doomtrannies will find something to whine about lmao

>>715522413
Raid devs, Mr Ozma nowhere to be found.

Guys get in here, Asmon is raiding Coils!
https://www.twitch.tv/asmongold247

>>715522635
It kinda depends on how many variants we get. We're getting at least 1 (or it's fake advertisement)
But hopefully 2.
And hopefully 7.45 will bring another raid instance to OC alongside the new Phantom Jobs, and then 7.55 another.
They're also adding an extra optional hardmode version of the DD final floor boss, which isn't relevant for me because it'll probably be more criterion savage-tier slop, which I avoid, but it's something they are doing that they didn't do before, so I'll count it.
If we're comparing to Stormblood, Stormblood had double the foray zones, and it had the trial series dungeons + Fractal Continuum (Hard) and Saint Mocianne's Arboretum (Hard).
But it didn't really have an Ishgardian Restoration equivalent as such. It had Doman Restoration, but I don't think it's comparable to Cosmic Exploration which is getting 3 more updates before the expansion ends.

>>715522641
Ozma chained up in a dungeon below the Square Enix building?
(He's probably working on the Ultimate.)

>>715522468
No. Literally nobody fucking knew not just me lmao. We found out in some random live letter, so don't even fucking try bucko. Nobody knew about her existence at all. Infact only after people found out about her there was some digging into the expansion's localization, but never before that point. Nobody gave a single fuck before that point. Ignorance is bliss.

>>715522910
>bucko.

>>715522887
After ruining both Omega and Eden ultimates, I don't think they let Ozma work on the new one.

>>715522948
I accept your concession.

>>715522618
>some of the complaints are exactly the same as for OC except the zone appearance
I wonder how many of these same people are complaining about OC now and saying Bozja was da best evar cause the devs still cared.

>>715521685
they/them pixies
we know

>>715522910
I would just be repeating myself if I were to respond to you, but it's clear you're not posting in good faith from the moment you began yours has been an exercise in a gotcha! Because I haven't give that to you, you've now started with the insults as you're frustrated I didn't give you the response you were phishing for.
Try again.

>>715522371
I want more zones, I actually like the OC zone a lot. There should be more content like the treasure chests that encourage you to explore the map. The removal of the "teleport to CE" button was a good change from Bozja to OC.
There should be at least one casually puggable raid. Forked tower is so inaccessible to the average player that it might as well not exist.

>>715523090
>>715523026

>>715523105
>The removal of the "teleport to CE" button was a good change from Bozja to OC.
Big fucking agree. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I see people bellyaching that they want to go back to sitting in a camp teleporting to CEs.
>There should be at least one casually puggable raid.
Agreed. Hopefully we get 2 more. Bozja got raids in 5.35, in 5.45 and in 5.55. They've only said so far that they're adding new phantom jobs in 7.45, but hopefully that also includes a new raid instance.

>>715523124
Exactly the point I made, you didn't see this as a discussion but some 'argument to win'. You're not here to talk but to argue and bitch.

>>715523245
I was talking to you, you just were wrong lol. It is completely okay to be wrong. Don't be sad.

Is it just me or do xiv players have very heavy "hate it when it's new, miss it when it's old" brain?
I am honestly almost certain in 8.0 or somewhere beyond it, we'll see people talking about the good old days of getting Occult Crescent when the devs still cared.

>>715523356
All your talking was trying to misrepresent what I thought, insulting me and then ending with "I accept your concession". Do you have friends, people you talk with regularly if this to you is amicable discussion?

>>715523572
It's just the old whiners getting replaced by new ones-treadmill

>>715523572
>Is it just me or do xiv players have very heavy "hate it when it's new, miss it when it's old" brain?
Definitely noticeable with Bozja, Ivalice and job design.
Is this the inverse of WoW-brain? They seem to love every new expansion release and then hate it 3 months later.

>>715523572
Yes, people praise Heavenswards story when most people I knew were making fun of how bad it was since people checked out from ARR's "PLEASE SET ASIDE ADDITIONAL TIME" when the story was picking up then completely killed all it's tension just going OOPSIE THE SULTANA DIDNT ACTUALLY DIE IT WAS JUST NYQUIL XD

>>715523572
>"Ugh, waiting for NMs again, really? I remember the good old days in Occult Crescent when they just spawned them back to back and gave players the choice of how actively they want to interact with them. Now I feel forced to sit here and wait or miss out because it'll take ages for the next one. And I can just teleport to them? I'm not even interacting with my environment. May as well be duty finder queueing."

>>715521695
Tyria's leaders are apprehensive about rumors of the Inquiry's secret voyages to Castora, an island so remote it has long been considered inaccessible, if not nonexistent. The risks involved prevent all but the most tenacious (and perhaps reckless) pursuers from investigating the Inquiry's plan. At launch, your race to uncover the Inquiry's plot will take you to two new open-world regions teeming with magical energies and strange creatures. Two additional maps will open as the story continues over the course of a year.
During your travels, you'll unlock three new Mastery tracks, including one for your Skimmer mount that unlocks new and updated abilities. The new region also brings new adventures, collections, and themed rewards. Players who own Guild Wars 2: Visions of Eternity and Guild Wars 2: Janthir Wilds will be able to unlock the new map, Castoran Homestead.
A new elite specialization for each profession will unlock new traits, profession mechanics, and healing, utility, and elite abilities. Further enhance your build by acquiring new themed relics throughout your adventures in Castora. Work toward six legendary rewards: three new legendary weapons, a ring, an accessory, and a respirator.
Castora's magically imbued landscape is home to all manner of strange and twisted wildlife. Two of the three major updates coming in 2026 will pit players against the island's most powerful inhabitants in Raid Encounters (including Challenge Modes and a Legendary Mode) and a new Convergence. Along with the first of the new Raid Encounters, new system updates will make raids easier to access. A Fractal with a Challenge Mode will also launch with the expansion's final major update.
New emotes, armor, weapons, recipes, and other exclusive rewards await those who brave the dangers of Castora, and seasonal updates to the Wizard's Vault will bring additional options for unique cosmetic rewards throughout the expansion.

>>715523831
Just goes to show that pacing can make or break a story

>>715523831
I think the greatest trick XIVfags played on each other is convincing one another that HW was well-liked when the community went fucking nuclear over it. Least of all the fact that the devs went on vacation after 3.0 release, and that ultimately, no one really got any content to do until 3.35 (PoTD), unless they were raidfags.

>>715523736
That post is ironic because
>Taking it personal
Lmao.

>>715523787
WoW-brain is
>We're so back Blizzard listened they changed EVERYTHING (on launch)
>This game is dogshit nothing changed it's just another [insert disliked expansion] (2 months after)
>Why [expansion] failed, and how the next expansion will finally be a return to form (right after expansion ends)
>Remember [expansion]? It was the best we've had in a long time. Too bad [current expansion] can't be like it. (~2 years after that expansion ended)

>>715523831
HW almost killed the game for real but it get praised because this game is full of shadowbabies/endfetuses. DT isn't even close to killing the game in comparison.
If this game survived HW, it will survive almost any shitty expansion they can come up with.

>>715504372 (OP)
everytime I see this I think its ff16

>>715524129
The same mentality exists in FFXIV, you only have noticed it now because before Dawntrail other than a very small number of Content creators or posters on here, people were afraid to rock the boat and so pretended everything was fine and hunky dory with the game. But it wasn't and the problem with pretending everything was fine when it clearly had long standing issues, is the devs thought the player base was happy with the state of delivery the game was in so they weren't motivated to make changes.
The only reason you're now seeing changes to the game is because people finally snapped out of that toxic positivity mentality and started rightfully criticising and complaining about long standing issues.
But ultimately, the thing that's really caught the attention of CS3/ SE is sub numbers dropping, that is the loudest thing a person can do to show their dissatisfaction with the game, especially a long time player and that is to unsub.

>>715524176
When an expansion is old, all that is remembered is the story.
That's why Stormblood still is seen by most as among the worst (only supplanted by Dawntrail now) while Heavensward commonly ranks highest alongside Shadowbringers despite how they weren't all that great content wise.

>>715524535
Stormblood is seen as good because the post game story is probably some of the best in the game and it also leads up to Shadowbringers who's story was good because they essentially did a soft reset of the world.

>>715524447
I unsubbed in Endwalker because the game was terribad but it still had all the wowletts mad about Shadowlands trickling in from their streamer god Asmongold.

>>715523894
And none of that is actually real because theyre not making another elite spec for every prof
I refuse to believe it

I kinda wanna replay XIV since I stopped right at EW (had a insanely bad static that burnt me out of the game for fucking YEARS). I mean I see a lot of people shittalk DT but the cyberpunk city expansion looks really fucking cool. it can't be THAT bad, really. I mean SB was significantly hated back in the day and I have some fond memories of it. fuck I mean if you really think about it, SB was one of the best expansions too lmfao.

>>715504442
>schizo babble
>AGP feminine TTS voice
Yep it checks out.

>>715524870
People are only now coming around to Stormblood a bit.
If you were to ask them to rank the expansions, though, they'd put ShB and HW over SB.

>>715525106
Content wise, DT is probably gonna be better than HW, ShB, EW. Story-wise, 7.0 really is worse than 4.0 (and I thought 4.0 was pretty bad), but I like 7.2 so for me it depends on how 7.3, 7.4, 7.5 end up being with the story.

>>715525106
Voices on JP lessens it a bit. But you nootice just how forced the new char is in the story.
Like I said before, it’s like one of those sidequest chains where you help a character succeed in something, but the issue is this character takes up half of a MSQ, and then doesn’t leave.

>>715525287
I'm mixed. ShB was alright but that post content was fucking awful not the msq but the actual post content. SB at least really introduced a lot of neat stuff even if they kinda dropped the ball and had to redesign a lot of it. but RNG dinos was fucking fun while it lasted hahaha. HW I didn't play much of since I kinda started near here so it kinda blends together with ARR. EW was bad. MSQ/Post MSQ/Content. I haven't played DT yet.

I mean I'd put SB > ShB > HW > ARR > EW, tbf ARR/HW gets a hard bump up because the community and my time playing the game in 2014-2016 was significantly better than post 2020. like holy hell the internet fucking SUCKS now.

>>715525106
Tech city is the better part of the expansion for the most part

>>715525106
7.0 really was bad storywise, and it mindbroke anyone who couldn't bear to step away from the game for a few months like a normal person would.
7.2 has redeemed the story somewhat, and things are looking hopeful for 7.3.

Mr Ozma and his dick riders are actively killing the game

>>715525714
I'm really hoping they just shove wuk into the woodchipper of irrelevancy and just add speen as a scion(unofficial lol)
I was really hoping that her mention of healing magic implies that she will relearn it and join up since she has no real reason to become the queen so to speak, especially with the sotry trying to steer them towards not having a queen at all

>>715516082
>blatantly predatory
all I've seen is that they're asking to pay 5 dollars one time to unlock some of the functionalities
which is equivalent to upgrading from the free trial on PC version, but apparently it's bad when mobile does it

>>715525015
They already teased icons for each of the elite specs.

>>715525714
>7.2 has redeemed the story somewhat
A bit too early for me to tell. It was good, yeah, but I need to know it's not a fluke. 7.3 will tell me, but it'll be a bit of uncertainty for a while even so.

>>715525895
Speen becomes a summoner. We already seen screenshots. I assume she will join us in out travels just because they gave her a new drip. She will probably also change her name to either Dagger or Garnet or a 14 original name, but I'm confident that she will change name.

Should I pay for a skip for EW? (I already played it)

>>715525590
holy fuck youre a tranny. K.Y.S.

>>715526049
Please tell me theyre adding new weapons too
I just want to play a claw/fist character, not just have a single skill for it

>>715525853
fuck off nigger
nobody liked raiding until shb

>>715526261
die in a fire you wow tourist piece of shit

>>715526261
Stormblood raids were the best this game had.

>There are still people defending Dawntrail
How? How???

>>715526261
>>715526319
ladies, ladies
you are both wowtrannies

>>715525895
>gets two completely unique outfits
>gets a job and is going to fight with us
>arguably the most important person of the expansion
>even most of the haters recognize that she is the only standout character of Dawntrail
SE would be fucking insane to leave her behind

>>715526210
do you hear yanny or laurel?

>>715526514
That they would. Still, uncertainty is uncertainty and we won't quite know until we're there. Just as we're all pretty sure Wuk will get binned, but we don't know for sure.

>>715526458
It can still redeem itself. SB did after the .3 patch. We've been in this road before so it's just a bit of copium. The expansion doesn't end until patch .58.

holy fuck these kate troon goons doing everything to not let kate get the blame for killing 10 years of good will. JUST. NO.

>>715504573
>>715504907
what even is a trancer

>>715526723
There was a reason we didn't respond to this dude.

>>715526742
forced meme. xiv has a lot of them. someone shitposts, people take them 200% seriously, and now it's forced schizos and memes all over the place. I have no idea why the community does this.

>>715526458
sunk cost fallacy

>>715526742
>>715521408

>>715526742
"venat is the evil bitch genocider but kate has pulled the wool over your eyes and tried to hide the fact that she is the real villain of the story over your eyes luckily we are enlightened and can see the truth REEEEE we will never forgive endwalker" ad infinitum for the past 3+ years

>>715526741
I personally blame XVI and splitting the team. The game hasn't recovered ever since.

>>715526514
She'd make for a great companion too since she is kind of earnest and clearly likes you, might squeeze some seething out of alisae
I can't really find a good way to describe the vibe she gives off other than "villager girl"

wake me up.... when 8.0 is ready... mimimimimimimi

>>715526514
>gets two completely unique outfits
>gets a job and is going to fight with us
>arguably the most important person of the expansion
remember Zero?

How does Daichi Hiroi feel at work everyday?
Does he know? Does he care?

>>715520820
Yeah no wonder it's total dogshit

>>715526990
The Speener shes a nice girl , feminine, out of her element, and a royal.

alisaie has been trash since forever. she needs to fuck off

All I know is that I started at the end of Stormblood and this expansion was the first time I unsubbed since then.
I'll check out the next expansion whenever those lazy fucks get it out but if that's shit too I'm gonna have to dump it

>>715527076
Wasnt liked by the community and was relegated to patch content ONLY
Speen has the advantage of actually being part of the expansion itself AND well liked at that

>>715527076
Zero is going to come back, and everyone knows it.
6.1-6.5 was nothing but buildup for the new "Azem shards"-saga they are going for

>>715527076
>no more hat tipping

i wonder whats going to be her quirk now or theyll never do it and focus on durante being a bumbly fool out of his armor.

I like the Bard job story though...

>>715526990
I think it would also be a nice nod to Garnet from FF9, who went from a princess to an adventurer herself, if only for a while.

>>715527176
Her little rebellious tomboy act is getting a bit stale yes, always thought alphinaud was a better character anyway
Having speen be a more reasonable character with the occasional emotional outburst is much better

>>715527401
I just hate that she steals all of alphinauds screentime while geting her own as well. shes redundant.

>>715527076
Zero was disliked and had a whole world to return to.
Also Zero will definitely be back.

holy fuck whats the point of gulool ja still? hes need to fuck off too.

>>715525106

7.0 has a weak story, but it should be said that the story outline by itself isn't that bad. The issue is that the head writer of 7.0 was kind of dog. Like, in every aspect (dialogue, exposition, characters, pacing, makibg sure things make sense and doesn't break immersion), the writer mishandles it. You can see this before 7.0 btw, the whole Zero storyline was also dogshit and I largely blame it on the writer. In both cases, the outline is fine but the execution is botched.

On a positive note, whoever wrote the class quests is actually the goat. All of the class quests were certified bangers with a great mix of drama and comedy

>>715526195
No, just use plugins to do the MSQ for you.

>>715527517
he bebe yoda

>>715527574
the theater writing style has a lot of glaring weaknesses and that faggot hiroi just ignores all previous events to write whatever the fuck he wants.

Are you guys ready for the ascians to take over solution 9

>>715505249
>course correct
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>715527591
wait that's a real thing? no way.

How to save the next 10 years arc

Kill Wuk Lmao.
Speen joins us.
Kill Thancred. Ryne joins us.
Kill Y'shtola.
Retire Urianger..

>>715527517
Gulool Ja exists as an excuse for Speen to not having to be a leader anymore

>>715526741
>it's kate's fault that SE doesn't reinvest in their best product
>it's kate's fault that the jobs are homogenised
>it's kate's fault that patches are 1 month longer
>it's kate's fault that there's no normal mode for forked tower

can they just add more OC player hairstyles. i fucking hate using hairstyles and then like a few minutes later oh an NPC is using the exact same hairstyle and I'm just like.... the fuck

>>715527684
im ready to be bored to tears of hirois slop for calyx. i dont give a fuck at all.

>>715509397
Yeah.

I am ready for Speen to meet Ryne, then promptly corner both me and Thancred while demanding headpats while Urianger watches from a distance and does nothing despite Thancreds cries for assistance.

>>715527783
kate cynwar is a retard and should be fired for killing 10 years of good will yes. protected tweets wont stop it the signal .

>>715527789
Well you see... It stresses the servers and also it's costly and we don't have the manpower and also it would be very difficult because well...

>>715527714
>Kill the hag kot
I will kill you instead
The hag kot exists to bully and be bullied

>>715527752
his "admin rights" were hacked. god what a stupid ass story. fire hiroi

>>715527883
STRESSES WHAT SERVERS??????????? HAIRSTYLES?????

>>715515742
Curse of Stalvan was kino.

>>715526723
Dawntrail is not Stormblood.

>>715526904
That's the real reason I think, I've seen even die-hard vets who sucked off the game realising that pretending everything is fine is harming the game and not helping

>>715525015
>theyre not making another elite spec for every prof

>>715527648

Honestly I don't think the "style" is the issue. Hiroi is just not a skilled writer. His fundamentals as a storyteller is just not there. He doesn't understand the established material or the characters, and this just makes his writing uncompelling and people tune out as a result. Hiroi is too brainlet to be in charge of the msq.

>>715527916
She shoud've died 3 expansions ago dude. She's on overtime.

>>715520865
>>715527104
The duality of man.

>>715527702
>not even /tipfedora emote
damn...

>>715527684
Nah, I think Ascians just Thordanned Calyx.

>>715505249
I'll be honest with you, I don't think Square has it in them anymore.

>>715527879
>kate is responsible for the buff cap
>kate is responsible for bad netcode
>kate is responsible for the housing timers
>kate is responsible for Grand Companies never being updated
>kate is responsible for body checks in Chaotic

>>715527960
>his "admin rights" were hacked.
Calyx was the one responsible for Gulool having admin rights in the first place. It makes total sense. He probably didn't even have to hack anything.

>>715528023
Not ESL btw just fucking tired.

>>715527986
>warrior paragon spec
>necro ritualist spec
WHERE
IS
THE
DERVISH
>inb4 necro has reap-
NO

>>715528086
god youre seething.

fire kate and hiroi. they ruined the game.

I thought original steps of faith was a fine trial and wish the game had more of that instead of DDR in a square/circle arena.

Back then they were experimenting a lot. Nowadays they don't ever take risks. Pussy ass dev team.

>>715528075
I think either some kind of necron stuff is controlling an ascian body, either that or shale will end up being calyx and the black regulators are essentially black ascian masks that'll brainwash people

>tier 3 of arcadion will be 2 random ass heavyweights and some GOD fighter who just asspulls himself into the savage fight.


the little sister being a scientist narration tool is stupid too.

>>715505249
Did you not get the memo? The doomposters from Endwalker were right. Have you had your head buried in the sand for Dawntrail, how the fuck can you be this blind and deluded to think that Dawntrail was a success among the community? It's been nothing but a shit show from 6.55.

>>715528293
i just hope its all resolved by 7.3 end and we jus clean slate to somewhere else.

fuck tural, sol 9, wuk, and kate and hiroi. .

>>715527574
The Unbound was the opposite effect for me. They’re all tested like silly Team Rocket evildoers that gets fooled, but one of them actually did a murder of a char’s sister and it’s kinda brushed aside.

>>715528170
The problem was you had to do it more than once and every time you got it in roulette you were guaranteed to wipe one or 2 times. It was also really long and kinda boring just staring at the dragons bottom side the whole fucking time. Expectations for roulettes aren't high but they do expect to not straight up wipe to shit that also takes forever because that's when casuals complaining starts.

>>715527971
Please understand.

>>715504372 (OP)
I genuinely loved the story, but by the end of Shadowbringers I was very much done with it.
I'm sure Endwalker added some cool stuff, but I felt as if Shadowbringers concluded the Ascian plot well enough, and I was content.

Without a compelling story or good characters, the game has nothing to offer. I'm not subbing and paying just to listen to the OST, I can get that on YouTube for free, and the gameplay is unfortunately pretty shit.

>>715527828
I'm guessing the ai filter is covering those modbeasts fucking?

>viera still can't wear hats
>released 6 (six) years ago

>>715528315
Endwalker was also terrible it was just wow babbies first FFXIV expac. The lack of content and story taking a right turn from we're going to the past>Center of the planet>Space was a clear we're running out of ideas and just shoving cool shit in for the sake of asspulling it.

>>715528293
Shale being Calyx is something I don't want, but I can see it happening.
So long as they don't G'raha Sphene.

>>715528543
They are going to be able to wear SOME hats next month.

>>715528294
Don't forget Brute Zomber rising from the dead to be the 3rd turn of the tier

>>715528671
and it'll be the 3rd fight and just like m7s it'll be boring as shit

>>715528671
I hope it cuts to a coffin and he sits up like the undertaker and turns towards us while still sat in the coffin

>>715520435
To be fair it's their own fault and shitty resource application. I haven't played since endwalker released, but at the time they had 2 (two) job designers on staff for however many jobs there were at the time. No wonder they homogenise everything to shit, they should bare minimum have 1 per role and ideally have 1 per class since if the classes play fun then the game IS fun. But no, they have 2 people (neither of which play healer by the state of the role).

>>715504372 (OP)
I genuinely hope the next major FF is an MMO, so we can move on from XIV which was designed to run on the fucking PS3 (~2005 hardware).
WoW (2004), OSRS (~2004 (sort of)), every big MMO is so fucking antiquated man, it hurts my soul. I like this genre so much and have such hopes for it.

>>715528706
>cash shop shit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>715528810
?

>>715525015
I wish base specs were actually good on their own. It's impossible to play certain weapon combos because they're not supported by any elite spec.

>>715506552
Wait for the new patch in one or two weeks, the game is even deader than usual right now

>>715504372 (OP)
Dead tranny game

>>715528543
apparently a commonplace problem in mmos

need google doccy to put dumpy-kun back in his hole

>>715528293
>>715528626
Doing the whole "Shale is Calyx"-twist would eat up a lot of the patch's time and not amount to anything interesting, so I really doubt that they're gonna do it.
They have more than enough questions to answer already.

Fuck this.
I'm going back to NGS.

>>715528170
>fight taking place in an actual part of the world and not on some random floating platform in some vague area surrounded by a pit or death zone for some reason
Nope! Can't have that anymore!

>>715522910
Finding out it was her and not Koji did change some things about ShB retroactively though.
For example, when we believed Koji did it the asexual nature of the fey was a genuine touch of soul.
After finding out Kate did it people began to believe it was some culture war bullshit to make people more ok with they/thems.
Then Kate confirmed that notion so now we know that the story was changed explicitly for culture war bullshit so the previous praise is moot.

So yes, people once praised Kate's work before they knew it was Kate's because we believed the work was genuine rather than political.

>>715528959
i'm pretty sure the hunt has grown tiresome for doccy after finding out it's just a trancer rerun

lel

>>715506552
It's a story game and you can play most of the story for free, it's worth a go. The game is shit for endgame players but the new player experience is fine. You have to enjoy JRPG stories though, it's 99% that for hundreds of hours.

>>715529041
He succeeded in making dumpy into a lolcow at least. It's very fun to trigger him.

>>715516205
Turned based combat is gay and lame.
No game is improved by it's inclusion.

>>715529329
Did he? He always was one.
I think what cemented it is that he got all of his posts purged in one thread showing how much of it is him samefagging.

>>715529394
What is this? Fatherless behavior? Mental illness? I hope our thread police officer comes back, he's my hero!

>>715527984
>Dawntrail is not Stormblood.
It is better.
The only thing Stormblood has over Dawntrail is job design, and that doesn't apply to all jobs.

>play game since 1.0
>permabanned by tranny devs
>game crashes and burns
Oh i am laughin

>>715529635
Bit early to tell tbf.
We'll have to see how Occult Crescent develops, and how many variants we get.

Action games aren’t fun i thought we all understood this when dmc sales are medicore and god of war became the most popular action game when it turned itself into a 3rd person movie lol.
Also the combat in ff16 is just rotate though your abilties, standard attacks do pitiful damage

>>715527591
>>715527707
WAS THIS GUY BULLSHITTING OR NOT???????????

>>715529742
proof?

>>715529742
What did you do to get perma'd, anon?

>>715529785
Oh shit the op was so gray and ugly i thought it was 16. Wtf happened to color existing in ff

>>715528543
pureasu underustando, noto enoughu money-desu foru viera oru hurothugaru hatso... smarru indie company-desu

>>715529038
It stuck out to me because characters just magically knowing to use “they/them” pronouns out of nowhere made no sense.
The pixies in Gridania are also genderless, but male pronouns are used for them. So it felt completely off.
Some thought it was weird that Vrtra talked about how dragons are technically gender les, but this was Koji lore from a 2016 interview that didn’t have a chance to be mentioned in game.
So I knew something was off then.

>>715529931
How did auto correct do genderless fine the first time then made me French?

>>715529893
Oh, so that's why both SWToR and WoW have races that can't wear hats/multiple armor pieces.

I think it’s funny that WoWfugees are now flooding OSRS.

>>715529742
How the fuck do you even get banned in this game? Only way I see it is if you talk like you’re on 4chan. I have called people retarded and a ton of other stuff and never gotten in trouble

>>715530135
Godspeed OSRSbros. Fend them off as best you can.

>>715528793
I mean it still came down to basic napkin math people knew was bad as soon as they saw the potencies. It's a tank with no raid buffs that did 30% less damage than the next tank. All you have to do is map out the basic rotation and average the potency of all the skills.
Shit like Monk doing some unintended rotation every patch is understandable, the intended rotation being 30% behind the next is unforgivably retarded. All content is balanced around this from a base level of what classes are doing on average potency per second wise. So how many hands this actually went through of incompetent devs is probably insane.

>>715530135
Please let them stay away from ffxiv for ever, I don’t want their kind here

>>715530241
The infestation is beyond terminal. Enjoy PF being filled with merc groups and people who rage quit after a single wipe while being the reason you wiped.
I miss the good old days when you could farm 20 primal totems in one party now you're lucky to get 3.

>>715529931
>magically knowing to use they/them
They've been in Norvrant for a couple years so them knowing that isn't much of a leap imo.
>The pixies in Gridania are also genderless, but male pronouns are used for them.
They're gendered. Noraxia (the one that Livia kills) was a female, and the elder is male. If nothing else, this should've tipped me off that the pixies were weird when even the cabbages have males and females.
The dragons are a good point, and imo a good use of legitimate genderlessness.
Middy is obviously male in all presentation, but it was his clutch of eggs that he brought to Hydaelyn. And it also explains how a single family could eventually populate the star.

>>715521695
I will, but to my real home. Speaking of, I think gw2 had its Cantha expansion already, right? Did they manage to properly translate Kaineng into gw2's more free movement/exploration type of map design?

>>715530387
Merc groups are much more common in JP than NA

>>715530469
Which is exactly my point. “They/them” as a pronoun for genderless in writing (both professional and gaming localization) was not a thing until post 2016 when woke identity pol shit took off. When mentally ill shits started pushing it everywhere and when you started seeing “gender identity” in forms.

How did they make OC worse than Pagos lmao.
Embarrassing.

>>715530469
>magically knowing to use they/them
>They've been in Norvrant for a couple years so them knowing that isn't much of a leap imo.
Which makes it weird that none of them gives you a heads up about it. It feels so disconnected, like when fantasy writing starts putting modernspeak and expressions and it just feels like a shitty LARP.

>>715530512
I'm talking about the merc groups where the leader types 2 mil to each person for all loot and it's the entirety of PF.
Not the ones made by obvious unmitigated RMT followed by real groups.

>>715530469
Actual Kate defender. Lmaooooo

>>715514129
>losing your house if you unsubscribe
I will never consider this a problem because I went running through a single Goblet ward's Apartments & Housing last night, you know what I found?
>A Large that has absolutely nothing in it
>A Small that has nothing in it
>A Small that has ONE thing in it: A Cuff-a-Cur machine.
>A Medium that only uses the main floor, and not all of it
>SO many empty apartments
>Some of the most generic builds
All this wasted space that people with actual ideas could be using for cool builds or even venues.
All these empty places when people are fighting tooth and nail weekly with the god-awful lottery system for houses.
All while World of Trooncraft adds a FAR better housing system that works like the Burning down the House mod does in XIV.
Fuck neighborhoods, fuck wards, give us instanced homes as an option for people who give zero fucks about it, or at LEAST more apartment size options.

>>715530737
They didn't.

>>715530974
>A Small that has ONE thing in it: A Cuff-a-Cur machine.
Yeah no shit the game has an insane botting issue because anti-cheat is illegal in Japan. Those houses are literally owned by bots that buy houses to sell an account with a house or just an entire ward owned by a big botter since houses got released in ARR.
If you get caught botting they give you warnings by the way.

>>715529635
>Dawntrail is better than Stormblood

I don't mind a "safe" expansion after Endwalker's "we win or the universe ends" stakes, but someone MUST have realised that Wuk Lamat wasn't a good character and could never carry an entire story on his massive tranny shoulders.
In fact I'm willing to bet that the subhuman "English team" recognised how hated the character would be and deliberately hired the filthy vermin troon as a deflection shield against criticism.

Unfortunate for them that the pendulum began swinging back and using alphabet psychos no longer excuses bad decisions.

>>715529635
You can't be this dense to think Dawntrail is better than Stormblood, there's no way anyone really thinks this?
From the story, the setting, the characters, the content, the writing, the themes, the jobs, the community were all far, far better in Stormblood.

Dawntrail is the worst FF14 expansion by far and one of the worst FF products as an entity.

>>715531279
I do mind because the entire premise of a vacation expansion is retarded, we get a new expansion only once every 3 years, so because DT is shite after Endwalker we have to wait 6 years for an Expansion that is supposed to be something that isn't a reset.
6 fucking years.
Nah.

>>715530135
Retards lmao. Literally the same thing that happened with XIV. They never fucking learn. Actually living in a fucking circle of despair.

>>715529635
He do be right.

>>715530864

There's a lot of travel between area transitions that isn't shown, it's not insane to think the crew have conversations that the player isn't privy to. The fae being genderless is something that should have been thrown in, and probably would have been if it weren't made-up localized bullshit that doesn't exist in the original script.

>>715531690
>headcanon
Come on dude. Call a spade a spade.

>>715531449
It was never a "vacation expansion", that was supposed to be a joke so that the curtain could be pulled back to reveal an even bigger threat than bird girl but they fumbled it completely because autism lizard sucked and troon lamat made it impossible to get invested in the story.
Also it really SHOULD have had a vacation segment with Alisaie in a micro bikini to lull you into a false sense of chill.

Join your local Discord's forked tower runs fags, it's easier than ever.

>>715531148
Anti-cheat isn't illegal in Japan, the devs are just fucking lazy.

>>715531449
>he entire premise of a vacation expansion is retarded
This. How was that ever going to keep people interested?
>ohemgee i am so mad i was promised a beach vacation expansion and didn't get it
No you aren't.

>>715531805

I accept your concession. Next time try having a conversation instead of a conniption, faggot.

>>715531857
You're right in one sense that it wasn't developed with the idea of being a vacation expansion however it was sold as that per Yoshida's own words at the London fanfest September 2023, it was such a shock to even the devs per Ishikawa's own statements at the Australian Expo of October 2024 that the devs rushed through the Trust 100 beach and bikini wear for the Scions.

>>715531871
NOOOO IT'S ULTIMATESLOP FOR RAIDTROONS

>>715531871
If I get a stack marker as a sniper and no one is stacking up with me, I'm going to run into a group and bring down as many with me.

>>715532236
Nice “Accept your concession” concession. You’re the one defending straight up identity politics being stealthily shoved in by an activist localization lead.

do you do you are mogpendium

>>715520227
Your argument works if you just completely ignore the year between 5.5 and Endwalker launching where literally everyone was talking about and shilling Final Fantasy, to the point where brand new data centers had to be made. This isn't excusing 14 now or saying it's one of the best MMOs because it is and was filled to the brim with issues, but ignoring that it was the most popular, most talked about MMO for a small point is extremely ignorant, doubly so when it only makes you look like a blizz tranny tribalist, but being into MMOs at all makes you a fag anyway. You're just arguing your preferred cock flavor.

>>715530135
Those people are locusts who strip games bare then abandon it.

>>715532396
>EW numbers each raid as “Xth Circle”
>Expecting DT’s to do the same
>Starts over with M1 in the second tier.
Fucking hell.

>>715532396
Oh shit, I missed a week of this already

>>715532523
Holy fuck this. Locusts are the best word to use here.

>>715531342
>content
If you had to be stuck in a .2 patch like say how shadowbringers was stuck in .2 for 7 months then you'd be insane to pick anything other than Dawntrail

>>715528671
The BRUTE UNDERBOMBER shall return and be the most fun fight of the tier
screenshot my post, I will be vindicated

>>715530135
OSRS always mogged wow

>>715532549
I feel like the objectives are a lot more fun and varied this time around.
>beast tribe quests
>BLU
>custom deliveries
>variant

>>715532607
ShB being praised for anything but its story (and even then, 5.1, 5.4 and 5.5 weren't all that good) is how you know this shit is all a LARP

>>715532664
Imagine if the whole thing about fighters being killed off and the bomber dying was actually part of the whole play. It’s revealed in the end “surprise, it was actually a crazy plotline for the Arcadian revival” and all the retired fighters were actually fine.

>>715504442
Is this your yt channel. Stop tagging your lazy low effort ragebait videos with every 14 related word.

>>715532704
The OSRS MMO model mogs every other MMO, it's baffling that we keep getting WoW clones instead of a high production value OSRS clone. Most people I know don't want to touch OSRS at all because of how it looks alone.

>>715504442
why is it all ascian thumbnails

>>715517398
Why are you posting some random twitter fags posts?

>>715532092
Yes it is. It conflicts with a lot of laws. Games that have anti-cheat in Japan essentially are nothing but a blacklist to IP and Hardware ban you.
Do you think Elden Rings anti-cheat is even remotely effective?

>>715532815
Would be kind of funny if the WoL had been taken for a huge ride and everyone was in on it except him.

>>715530726
The idea that fey are genderless is fine, IF it is done in service to the story. Which it sadly wasn't.
>>715530864
This makes sense, but you have to admit that if there was a section describing why you had to call the fey the proper pronounds ShB would have a massive blemish.
>>715530928
Read the post, silly.

>>715529791
Bare minimum you can use TextAdvance and YesAlready for high-speed cutscene skipping. I've heard of AutoDuty too but I think that's just for levelling.

how did final fantasy as a franchise spawn so much schizophrenia

>>715533250
prolly because they post here

>>715533620
And in the end we would all be like “oh of course, it’s pro wrestling duh.”

>>715527707
>>715529791
>>715533772
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/151RlpqRcCpiD_VbQn6Duf-u-S71EP7d0mx3j1PDNoNA/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0
You people have no idea. The plugins are essentially the same thing as the bots but free.
Why do you think Artisan and auto-rotation has more downloads than actual raiding addons like waymarker presets and it's not even close.

>>715526742
"Zodiark Trance" comes from a goofy comic an ESL made and uploaded to one of the XIV subreddits where Warrior of Light awakens to his memories as Azem and decides to join Team Zodiark out of sympathy for the Ascian cause (something Azem was explicitly stated to not do) and runs down to the planet's core to kill Hydaelyn believing he's been lied to and manipulated. It is a direct response to, and ignores the vast majority of, Endwalker's story to peddle the author's own fanfiction which is sourced in anger/disappointment that Endwalker did not make Hydaelyn an evil character as was very vaguely implied by the game simply casting doubts on her behavior and actions.

More specifically, Zodiark Trancers as we know them on the internet are essentially what became of Garlemald sympathizers on the game's official forums, who easily and swiftly transferred over to being Ascian and Zodiark sympathizers when Shadowbringers began casting them in a sympathetic, but still villainous light. There was a write-up by an Emet-Selch avatarfag on /vrpg/ that I don't have handy at the moment, who infiltrated a Discord server populated by trancers after recruitment campaigns on Twitter and Youtube comments. His findings were essentially as described above, that trancers are just Garlean holdouts who believe the Ascian puppet nation got a fair shake and have divested that energy off to Ascians and were, as the kids say, "shook" that Hydaelyn wasn't a bad woman, the Ascians were still pretty evil regardless of their stated noble intentions, and Zodiark itself is a brainless god puppet. Hence the comic which just ignores enormous swathes of the game.

Most of the known ones are European, speak poor or little English. It's a general term for trolls that use /v/ as a playground, but there's evidence that the sorry and spammy behavior of XIV threads in the past few years is because of, chiefly, between one and five trancers that have been here since Asmongold's stream days.

>>715534156
>who believe the Ascian puppet nation got a fair shake
*didn't get a fair shake

>>715533772
TextAdvance is so good for not only how it skips text automatically but it also cuts short the NPC dialog animations and can do the auto turn ins.

>general WoW thread on /v/
>50 posts on page 10
>XIV hate thread
>over 400 replies on page 1
what is this phenomena called?

>>715532792
Its probably the case many started XIV during the "big event" when ShB already had most of its content out

>>715534319
Wow is good right now so people wanna hate on problems FFXIV has had since like 3.0 into 4.0.

>>715534156
Important to note that not all Zodiark Trancers are still active. A lot of the ones from EW moved on. It's mainly just a group of a handful of (literal) homosexuals still fuming over it and using Dawntrail's bad reception as a cudgel now that they finally saw an opportunity to drive a wedge, even if people's reasons for disliking Dawntrail have nothing to do with Endwalker's MSQ.

>>715534319
WoW threads get to stay up, even multiple at a time. XIV threads have to be a certain amount of negative schizoing or else janny nukes it

>>715534429
Yeah it does bear mentioning that the vast majority of the group just got over it. Now it's a Telophoroi group of like two to five people that have deeper mental problems than not liking Hydaelyn, given they've been at it for real world years.

>>715504442
Is this another case of a schizo shilling his channel in these threads like with that Desolance guy?

>>715534319
WoW has never had a lot of traction on /v/. At most, people make threads laughing at the magic wheelchair or the blind amputee mutt, but most of the time, WoW threads tend to die out. There is no passion left for the franchise, and the only ones still playing it are forever-players.

>>715534547
the coom threads chug along though

Why are we even talking about Trancers at this point? They all fucked off to other games and only engage in political sperging on Xitter now. I don't know why someone here keeps trying to bring them up every thread like they're the ones responsible for all the negativity here. Just another attempt to invalidate criticism of the current state of the game by the GCBTW.

>>715504372 (OP)
Don't bother. There's just one word needed
: trannies.

>>715534505
I don't think that's true any more. It was the case during Endwalker but I've seen a few normal threads without the spammer that were fine. The current status quo is just that bad actors get to spam here as much as they like and the mods will ignore everything.

>>715533772
>>715529791
>>715527707
>>715533979
Oh and people started blatantly using these even in top end groups. If it takes longer than 2 days to clear chances are people have started auto rotation and botting half the fight. That's why people start clamoring for recorded clears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxDx-tkEhsw&t=81s

Also also you can open cheat engine and speed hack in PvP. It's something you could do since ARR there's 0 anti cheat.

>>715534592
this whole "GCBTW" thing as a counter-trancer thing ain't working lil bro

>>715534576
Aren't the coom threads predominantly AIslop now about Assumi or whatever her name is?

>>715534319
Why are you bringing up WoW in a FFXIV thread? Why can't you just talk about FFXIV?

>>715534525
What happened to him in the end?

zodiark was actually a good guy maybe they were on to something

If Emet Selch was right why did we kill him??

>>715534382
>Wow is good right now
Do you actually believe that shit or are you just baiting for pity (you)'s?

>>715534685
Zodiark wasn't a guy. It was a meat puppet occupied by Elidibus first and Fandaniel later. It's neither evil nor good, just a tool.

>>715534672
Kinda, yeah, actual good WoW porn is VERY few and far between, leading to AI slop nobody but its own posters wants to see and the same pics over and over.

>>715534592
>Just another attempt to invalidate criticism
I'm sick of this stupid shit
I criticize the game plenty
But I also call out blatant lies
Let when I do I get called a defender or DT/Wuk/Kate/Sena
This happens all the time to many honesty talking about the game

>>715534319
>wow thread has 20 replies
>reaches page 10
>gets bumped by some inane bullshit
>gets zero traction
>right back to page 10
>gets bumped by some inane bullshit
It's bizarre

>>715533792
The main reason is that it appeals millenial weebs, which are especially vulnerable to afflictions of the mind

>>715534675
He is either in jail or finding a job to pay what he owes to Xeno

>>715531342
Transtrail Literally makes 1.0 Chinal Chontajii 14 look like a masterpiece. Horsebirds > trannycat.

>>715534652
I saw a guy AFK next to the Gold Saucer stage yesterday, and every time Slice is Right would happen his character would move to dodge bamboo while still remaining AFK and not even being on the stage.
He had logged clears for all 6 ultimates.

>>715534656
>this whole "GCBTW" thing as a counter-trancer thing ain't working lil bro
(Little) Buddy you're never going to convince anyone that all the hate towards Dawntrail is coming from 5 schizophrenics on Twitter. Just give up with this retarded narrrative already, Trancers don't even care about anything unless it's somehow about Venat. They can't hide their Venat sperging for even 5 minutes, they out themselves in that way very easily. You are lashing out at shadows now because you can't accept that literally NOBODY liked Dawntrail.

>>715534675
Xenosys fairly abruptly shut the fuck up about him and his court case, I'm guessing either his lawyer told him to stop behaving like a lolcow and milking it for his channel or it resolved legally.

>>715534806
anon...

>>715534806
>Let when I do I get called a defender or DT/Wuk/Kate/Sena
If you're getting called that it's because that's exactly what you are.

>>715525287
ARR > SB > HW > ShB > EW > DT
Stormbaby here

>>715534675
>>715534525
I personally knew him in Heavensward. He's just schizoing out in his house raging out trying to not get arrested. If anyone played back then he went by Howard Moon and played in Delete Monk. Back when he couldn't show up to raid because his girlfriend stole his car and left him in the desert.

If anything he probably rage posts on puppet accounts.

>>715534786
Nobody even wanted to make art of that purple elf so it's all AIslop.

>>715534874
>all the hate towards Dawntrail is coming from 5 schizophrenics on Twitter.

>Think about finally resubscribing to play through everything new that's been added since the last time I played
>Need to check up on when the next patch is expected to come out
>Realise that if I subbed now I wouldn't even get to play all of the next patch anyway since they stagger and dripfeed content past the initial patch launch
>Suddenly remember there's usually 4-5 months between each 'main' patch
>Desire to return starts slowly fading away
Jesus, stepping away from MMOs for a spell and playing regular games really puts things into perspective. The more I think about it the more it feels like a miracle that the genre even managed to survive this far, is it all the mogstation purchases?

>>715534673
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/714511704/#714530829

>>715534950
>Just keep letting me lie, you DEFENDER
You don't deserve to post that pic

>>715534989
Traditionally the vast majority of WoW porn is commission work since nobody gives a flying fuck about WoW NPCs for fanart, so I'm guessing with the way the game is in the past decade that the flow of commissions is what stopped moreso than any actual interest.

>>715535058
Fray and Emet-Selch, the "arbiter of truth (self-proclaimed)" avatars of choice

>>715534989
This is some nice fanart.
Saved

>>715534898
Do you have a point you're making? An image was used before on 4chan? HOLY SHIT NO WAY. It's almost like people save images they find here and repost them all the time.

Another attempt to deflect critcism. You can't engage in any argument here in good faith, you can only attack the posters in an attempt to invalidate their arguments by going "UH ANON UR THIS OTHER GUY BECAUSE UH I SAID , AND THAT MEANS UR ARGUMENT IS INVALID".

Give up, little buddy. You comb the archives everytime you see anyone shitting on Dawntrail to try to "prove" they're this other person, and you didn't even find anything actually offensive. Like what is even your point with that image? You're flailing at this point, little buddy.

>>715534319
What even is there to talk about for WoW? The entire setting is dead and devoid of intrigue. What are you gonna argue about? Theorize about? What the next m+ dungeon cycle is? What the next story for the delves is? What raid boss will yell ENOUGH next? What ugly mascot costume you got from the trading post?

>>715532343
Anon just look at were the arrow is pointing it’s just that easy, also that player doomed 8 other players which probably cost the run depends on if you had shitters or not using phantom skills

>>715535017
Unironically yes. When they added it all it had was the shitty odin horse for half the game price. You saw so many people on that ugly shit the same day. Pay piggies have no standards.
Now imagine the amount of people buying a daily fantasia.

Can someone please tell me why we have some resident group of white knights running damage control for Dawntrail literally 24/7? Where do they think they are?

>>715535213
Same filename, same hash retard.
You're legitimately too fucking retarded to exist. How did you not already walk into traffic with the subhuman monkeybrain jammed in your cranium?

>>715535018
Can you talk about FFXIV instead of spend all day digging through archives trying to prove something?

>>715535323
I assume he's masturbating under his desk at the attention more than anything.

>>715535390
Sure when wowplayers stop raiding 14 threads

>>715534651
Yeah I assume anymore that when a thread gets wiped it's because OP got wiped (shitpost thread, banned) or it's because OP is a pretty blatant shitpost and everybody's a beaten wife for schizoid threads

Can you stop responding to the mong who conflates enjoying the game with "umm urr you are my archenemy whiteknighting the game which means you are throwing a wrench in my way of life that is astroturfing universal hatred for dawntrail"
You literally won't get anything productive out of the mentally disabled wretch.

>>715535231
People on /v/ are too dogshit to actually talk about the game and gameplay. Why do you think every general just turns into posting their characters? Like imagine if people talked about talent builds or M+ routes or raid strats. Instead it always devolves into shitflinging about who ERPed with who everytime for every MMO.
I hate you fags with my soul.

>>715535323
>Same filename, same hash retard.
>You're legitimately too fucking retarded to exist. How did you not already walk into traffic with the subhuman monkeybrain jammed in your cranium?
And? Even if it's the same poster, who cares? It's a post of somebody shitting on Dawntrail. You're trying to say that proving this one poster shitting on Dawntrail is also the same person as this OTHER posting shitting on Dawntrail? Okay?

>>715534651
>but I've seen a few normal threads without the spammer that were fine.
Exactly. Whenever the spammer isn't around, discussion is cordial and reasonable. Whenever he's around, there's also an instant influx of doomposting and "THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GAME IN A WAY THAT ISN'T OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE IT'S THE WHITEKNIGHTS WE MUST PURGE THEM"
Sometimes you see it in real time when there's like a first half of a thread where buddy-bud isn't around.

>>715534989
Fucking hell I want to spread Speens thin legs wide and destroy that fertile hairless untouched virgin pussy pounding her mercilessly into the sheets until the bed gives out and her womb looks like the aftermath of the 1916 Somme offensive.

And I want Alisaie to watch every time I do until the pregnancy is achieved.

>>715535467
>Sure when wowplayers stop raiding 14 threads
Nobody's raiding FFXIV threads, the posters here are by and large players (or former players) upset over the current state of the game and are venting their frustrations here, some still hoping that things will get better.You're a deranged schizophrenic white knight who can't stand anyone saying anything negative about the game and come to every one of these threads to shit them up with your endless fingerpointing and archve dumping to "prove" everyone shitting on Dawntrail is actually one person. YOU are the only problem here

>>715535665
>replies one-by-one to posts that got no attention but weren't seething denouncement of the game
>rants about homestuck the little buddy
>thread quality fucking tanks while he begins ranting about staying on topic and threads being bad

>>715535307
4chins always had the most mentally unstable ff14 drones.

lol

>>715535762
>people that haven't subscribed since shb
>"""players"""
wtf?

>>715535760
she got wuked

>>715535769
Many such cases.

>>715535769
Thread quality tanks because of YOU, Homestuck. You don't even play the game, you come here to do nothing but lash out at anyone criticizing it for some unknown reason. Why don't you fuck off and make your own threads? You only ever respond to existing threads and try to derail them with your boogieman obssessions. You NEVER talk about the game, ALL you do is just attack anyone criticizing it, making it clear you have no idea what the fuck you're even talking about because you don't actually plya the game.

Little buddy just make your own thread if you don't like these awful "doomer" threads so much.

>>715535814
There's a reason there's a GOOGLE DOCCY that reliably tracks his thread activity, though it only has the folder dump "tranny generals belong on /vg/" stuff for tracking

*I* am Homestuckicus!

>>715535814
What is your point?

Actually I know what you're point is, you can't actually defeat anyone's arguments so you just try to deflect by trying to derail the argument by making it about who's behind the anon's posts as if that matters. I know exactly what you're doing, little buddy.

>>715535980
"Little buddy" kills me since most of his posts are just NO U in long-form, so he got called that at one point and it snapped his spine so badly he added it to his own vocabulary

>>715536158
>so he got called that at one point and it snapped his spine so badly he added it to his own vocabulary
I saw that. That's fucking hilarious.

Do you want to know who it was that entered your precious hate thread? The mythical homestuck, the infamous little buddy?

>>715536191
Perfect opportunity and you capitalized on it.

>>715536158
It's also the same way with the GOOGLE DOCCY itself where he started posting it himself with somebody else's written post, and triggering himself with it when presaging spamming sprees. Interestingly he added misspellings and random punctuation or symbols to the post, so he manually typed out a post that already existed for reposting; largely stopped after repeating needlings over introducing misspellings to a post he could've just copied and pasted

>>715535982
>There's a reason there's a GOOGLE DOCCY that reliably tracks his thread activity, though it only has the folder dump "tranny generals belong on /vg/" stuff for tracking

Tracking what? Somebody criticizing Dawntrail? Why is this some insane schizo behavior in your mind? This is a thinly veiled attempt to deflect from what the poster is saying to make it about WHO you (think) the poster is, as if that matters. Even if we accept they're the same person, who cares? What the fuck is your point? What does that detract from what they're actually saying? You're deflecting, is what you're doing. And I'm not gonna let you.

Can we just talk about Sphene's pussy instead of this pointless faggotry?
So, how soft do you think her mound is? Innie or outie? Pale pink lips or dark ones?
Additional topic: Is she weak to anal or not?

>>715536191
AAAIIIIEEEEEEE

>no it can't be 5 people shitting the thread up even though they use all the same images and all the same arguments framed exactly the same way! that's preposterous
>but everyone who laughs at me is homestuck!!!
little buddy.... little man...

sphene booru where

>>715535982
>>715536158
>>715536186
>>715536191
>>715536296
Most blatant samefagging I've seen in a while.

>>715536349
It's so obvious it isn't even worth mentioning
Fat lips, self-conscious about having a large clitoris, low sensitivity (no experience but chronic masturbator), vaginal only but wears a buttplug when speaking in front of large crowds so the shifting around stimulates her, especially during Alexandria's war-time

>>715536349
INNIE INNIE INNIE

>>715536349
SPHEEEENEEEEE
SPREAD IT FOR ME!

>>715531208
Yes.
>>715531342
The .0 stories are damn near par. Yanxia being better over all, but Alexandria is much better than everything in Gyr Abania.
The content is better than it was in 4.2, no question.
>one of the worst FF products
You're ignorant or retarded.

>>715536374
Everybody one person, too, is NO U in long form.

>>715536374
Have you considered that most people just dislike Dawntrail and there's no grand conspiracy?

>>715536525
Gyr Abania being the same shitpit like 3 times was grim.

>>715536548
Do they, though? Threads are "blah" at worst on it when ctrl-f returns no "little buddy" results

>>715534651
The last live letter had every thread nuked as soon as it was clear that people were receptive to what was coming in 7.3.

>>715536616
This desu.

>>715536616
Adding onto this threads are "blah" at worst on it when there's also nobody obsessing over subscription counts and "the community reception" or reposting OF and Twitter screenshots, as if /v/ threads give a flying fuck about the game's sub count or what the larger community thinks even in the best of circumstances

>>715535762
>You're a deranged schizophrenic white knight who can't stand anyone saying anything negative about the game and come to every one of these threads to shit them up with your endless fingerpointing and archve dumping
>to "prove" everyone shitting on Dawntrail is actually one person. YOU are the only problem here
Actually I said wowplayers as in multiple people
What you're doing is trying to pretend everyone sick of wowplayers is one person
Aka projection

I am having a BLAST farming glamsmountscheevos.

>>715536548
That was true before 7.2. The overall opinion is more split now.
Plenty want the days of TORtanic to come back, but DT was never that bad even if it was fun to shitpost about it being that bad.

>>715536439
We are allthe same ascian, sundered into different shards. We are one and yet separate

>>715536839
Well, this game did just fine in HW and SB when the sub counts were like half what they are now. I am not overly concerned with the sub/playercount unless it affects me. It's only gay brand war shit to me, and I have long since stopped ascribing value to "game I like has more players than game you like."

Every single reply in this thread is me btw

>Somebody makes argument against Dawntrail
>Schizophrenic white knight can't engage with said argument
>Goes through archives try and "prove" this Dawntrail critic is the same person as this other Dawntrail critic
>He thinks this even matters even if he's correct or in any way invalidates their argument

Literally even if we accept any of your "evidence" proves even ONE such anon as being some other anon who also shit on Dawntrail, it's irrelevant. If anything it only proves that FFXIV threads on /v/ are barely populated anymore and it's only a small handful of anons left posting. It's not some grand revelation that somebody who posts in these threads would also continue to post in future threads and make the same kind of arguments.You're not making some grand point here you absolute bellend, you're making an extremely transparent and pathetic attempt to dodge their arguments and attack the person behind them.

Typical tactic of the GCBTW. But since I know that's you're tactic now, every trying I see you trying to do that to me or somebody else, I'm just going to immediately take us back to the original argument being made and not let you try to weasel your way out of it with these kinds of deflections.

>>715536920
Until people are actually noticing anything like Ligma Lomingea being empty or somewhat empty, or DPS queues on daily roulettes are taking actual hours like they did during Heavensward and Stormblood, it's all just nigger technology and somebody trying to turn the thread into a Famitsu thread.

What's the optimal amount of people to do Deep Dungeons with if I'm not trying to tackle the solo challenge?
2? 3? I heard 4 can kinda trivialize it.

>>715536889
Yes you're a tranny discord from /xivg/, actually. We already know this.

By the way the vast, vast majority of "GCBTW" usage is /xivg/ shitposts, keep this in mind the next time anybody flails about generals belonging on /vg/ or how the poster definitely doesn't use /vg/

>>715537001
tldr

>>715537095
DDs are intended for four people but duos and trios work just fine

>>715537229
So solo is ballbust hard mode. Four is, allegedly, cakewalk mode.
So I suppose three might be the optimal to have fun while not getting assfucked?

>>715537193
Tl;dr he's not one person but everybody else is one person and disagreeing with him is proof of white-knight status

>>715536616
>>715536710
(Blatant samefagging btw)

>Do they, though?
Yes? Are you seriously trying to argue that most people LIKE Dawntrail?

>>715536864
>That was true before 7.2. The overall opinion is more split now.
No it's fucking not you lying worm. There was some MILD praise for 7.2's MSQ by a some people, but then whatever meager goodwill was immediatley destroyed by Occult Crescent later on. Sentiment is now worse than ever.

>>715536548
When the folder-dump spam isn't here, we have cordial discussions on what we dislike (and sometimes like!) about Dawntrail. Then when that guy shows up, thread quality nosedives tremendously.

>>715537301
You'll still struggle on the last couple floors because aoes start one shotting you.

>>715537301
It's kind of a swinging pendulum on whether or not you get completely and utterly raped no matter the player count, such is the way of Deep Dungeons, but more people = easier every-ten-floor bosses

Every post from someone not just liking the game but failing to outright denounce it as the worst thing ever is a clever ploy by the GCBTW to mislead everyone.
There is no being positive or neutral about this game. There's only being truthfully negative or being a whiteknight cultist yoshitpiss tranny trying to manipulate everyone by saying they like/enjoy/don't hate something. I will NOT stand for it.

>>715537383
>worse than ever
The only liar itt is you.

>>715537425
This post is little buddy-coded

>>715537384
The biggest yardstick I can find is how polite the thread is about Wuk Lamat, spammer here = blind seething hatred for hundreds of posts and attacking anybody that isn't blindly seethingly hating her, spammer not here = people tend to not post about her more than once or twice for a short conversation and then move on to other subjects

Given that Volker twitter account I'm wondering if it isn't a /y/ kind of thing where he's lashing out because he wouldn't have sex with an icky vagina, coupled with oldfag larp about hating furries

>>715537514
Little buddying it up hardcore not gonna lie. Sheeeeee...

>>715537193
>>715537327
Samefagging again?

>tldr
I accept your concession

>>715537134
>By the way the vast, vast majority of "GCBTW" usage is /xivg/ shitposts, keep this in mind the next time anybody flails about generals belonging on /vg/ or how the poster definitely doesn't use /vg/
GCBTW is a term used literally everywhere to describe this game's community.

Again, it doesn't even matter here it came from or why, you're simply trying to go "OH THIS PERSON IS FROM THIS PLACE THAT'S BAD THEREBY EVERYTHING THEY'RE SAYING IS DISMISSABLE EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO ACTUAL ARGUMENT AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE SAYING"

>>715537301
Sometimes bringing 4 people can be more messy since people get overconfident, maybe overpull, maybe step on a luring trap, you never know. Just bring any amount of friends that you can enjoy 4-6 hours with.

>>715515308
Don't think so. This person wouldn't shit on trannies so much if it was a tranny. Would be funny as fuck if it were Zepla or someone like that.

>>715537580
Why argue a non-argument?

>>715537538
I don't like Wuk Lamat at all and I will be happy when she's gone.
But I didn't make hating Wuk Lamat my personality since July 2024 because I like to think I'm not insane.

game bad

>>715536661
Now that's some revisionism, I mostly saw people shitting on Yoshi for the "cost" comment. But I checked out near the end of the LL so maybe I missed something?

>>715537790
game good

I think Dawntrail is a great expansion and no schizo can convince me otherwise

Just a reminder the Dawntrail Defense Force's tactic here is to derail threads with pointless arguing over who-is-who because they have no actual arguments against criticism here, they can only attack the people making said arguments. If you engage with them at all, you're only giving them what they want, which is derailing the thread into pointless arguing over literal nonsense. Do not respond to them, keep shitting on Dawntrail and let them seethe while they're ignored.

>>715537538
Like 90% of Trancers were either trannies or pozzed homosexuals.
The trannies moved on. The homosexuals remain. So I don't doubt there's some element of that there.

>>715537821
thats been the modus operandi of ff14 fanboys here for ages.

>>715536457
>Fat lips
I disagree, I bet she has the labia of a 14 year old.

>>715537814
>I mostly saw people shitting on Yoshi for the "cost" comment
That was the only negative thing about the ll, wonder why it was blown up here?

>>715537819
It's okay to admit you're a slop enjoyer, trannon.

>>715537819
That's great. What is your favorite thing to do in Dawntrail/favorite addition/favorite change/etc.
This is a good faith question to spur on some measure of discussion, and not a gotcha or that one guy's "what did you do today?" soundbite that he spams when he gets BTFO too hard.

>>715537819
agreed
love the game too btw

>>715537673
Yeah refusing to get the fuck off the topic EVER is simply not sane or healthy, it's why he gets called a trancer so often what with during Endwalker there was a constant effort to talk about nothing but the Elpis time loops and people would get agitated if conversation ever moved away from the time loop, or if you didn't care about or liked the time loop element; especially agitated if conversation drifted towards time loops being a thing as far back as FF1

Pretty similar recently is extreme agitation if you badmouth Heavensward or Stormblood in any way as part of the oldfag larp

>>715537660
>Your argument is invalid because I say so.
lol
lmao even.

Thanks for the concession.

>>715537891
>thin lips, huge clit, gets wet easily
IMAGINE

>>715537994
>Your argument
There never was one.