GOTY comes out in 3 hours.

>>715522052 (OP)
What's gonna be the major difference between this steam release and complete edition on GOG?

>>715522052 (OP)
its not 2006 anymore

>>715522160
Correct it's 2025, GOTY is still releasing in 3 hours.

GOG I kneel

>>715522148
Nothing. It's basically just for consoles. And they're selling it on PC too cus why not.

How is this old game a "goty"?

>>715522148
it'll actually work

that being said theres nothing here worth spending 30+ on. at least the NWN EE had a bunch of bug fixes, graphical improvements and new campaigns

>>715522972
Quite easy, modern games are absolute garbage and this "old game" is kino little zoomie.

>>715523664
this is why buying new gpus are scam because new games are trash

I'm going to have a mental breakdown, how the fuck do we exist in a time period when nothing new is ever made.
I'm not even talking about things that copy or inspire others, this is literally the same fucking game, we live in a world where the same fucking things are repackaged and sold again but now they're """"better"""".

>>715527219
The truth is new things are made, they are just all shit so different versions of a good thing is still better than the garbage they put out that is new lol

So many years ago today........

>>715522052 (OP)
What's the appeal? I thought the Neverwinter games were for their modding community.

>>715522148
Not complete piece of shit UI hopefully

all they need to do is slow down the camera and add ui scaling and fix fullscreen for windows 10 and its perfect

>>715528835

>>715522052 (OP)
There is like 1 or 2 utterly deranged slavs from /vrpg/ that are shilling this as the second coming of christ when in reality its one of the very rare 0/10 borderline unplayable games.

any fun classes? I played as a ranger and a monk previously.

>>715522148
censorship for modern audiences.

>>715529086
obsidian made it so its buggy and never lives up to its potential as usual.

>>715530206
no one mods nwn2. Its trash.

>>715523664
Okay? Still doesm't qualify for a "goty". And you're a retard for paying for modded versions of old games that should be free.

>>715530000
I'd say warlock is the definitive class of NWN2. Works really well with the combat heavy nature of the game and rest-restricted nature of MotB, gets much stronger in MotB and not as braindead as most of the melee builds.

>>715530310
It does though because it's releasing this year retard?

>>715530552
Cleric is still better, it literally does everything at the cost of nothing
Warlock has appaling damage until 20+/MOTB unless you use Kaedrin's PRC mod
And the cunts don't even let you cast in the Horned Devil form despite tabletop allowing it

>>715530000
Rouge/ranger for SoZ OLM, Frenzied berserker/weapon master with RDD for OC/MotB and anything really for MoW

>>715527219
new things are constantly made including games especially in current year compared to the past
they're just mostly trash, simple as
If you think more games were released in the 90s and early 00s then now you literally weren't alive back then to actualy know shit

>>715530783
It released decades ago.

>>715531231
The enhanced edition comes out today you fucking dotard go on the steam page and look for yourself

thinking of skipping cleric for a change and going monk, is it any good? can i run in and punch my way to victory or is it squishy?

>>715531294
You can't go wrong with a pure class of anything. It'll just be gimped if you try to multiclass without knowing what you're doing

>>715523018
I replayed them 3-4 years ago and didn't have any issues I recall. If I had to do any old pc game compatibility tricks they were easy enough that I don't remember them.

Compared to dragon age that crashes unless you force it to use only one CPU thread it worked great

>>715531453
what windows are you on? on windows 10 dragon age origins worked fine for me, but nwn2 i had to run in windowed mode otherwise the menus UI would shit itself for some reason

>>715522148
Saves not corrupting on Windows 10/11, for starters.

Tried to play the game three times with the original GOG release. Everytime I got to act 3, I couldn't progress because a flag in the save file would get corrupted.

Fuck GOG and fuck CD Project.

>>715531294
Monk can be good, rush for circle kick

thread theme
https://youtu.be/34wdEnPZ7KU

>>715527219
For the same reason why modern music and movies are shit, game producers realized that they can take zero risks and make free money instead of taking risks for possibly no reward.

Okku

>>715522242
but it's July ...

>>715533282
gay bear

preloads unpacking, later lads enjoy gayming

>>715522052 (OP)
I hope it works on deck.

>>715529902
I finished it twice and never had a problem. No idea what you people are talking about

>>715522052 (OP)
>Beat the last boss
>Rocks fall
>Everyone dies
Wow, what a great game.

>>715522052 (OP)
so many years ago today...

>>715530276
mods are trash, no one cares about your fanfiction vidya

>>715522052 (OP)
Both Neverwinter Nights and even MotB are shit and I'm unable to understand why people like them. And I play older crpgs.

>zoomies will actually be introduced to a female gith ally that doesn't look like trash and acts like 3 INT

>>715534454
>no 20 minute section how the true 2D love of my life will weep for my sacrifice
it's not the end of the story

>>715531615
10

>>715529902
The main campaign is just slightly more boring than Baldur's Gate 2 and the expansions are good.

>>715534530
why are they trash? 1 and 2 are great classic adventure stories, motb on the other hand has the best plot in all of rpg after planescape.

There was only one good thing about NWN2 OC

>>715534530
motb is the best story ever told in gaming but it's ok that you have shit taste

>>715535358
It's not 2010 anymore gramps, smug gaytheist seethe stories aren't cool or interesting anymore

>>715522052 (OP)
>no millennial writing
>no sexual degeneracy
>no other in your face neomarxist shit
this was the real baldur's gate 3

>>715535587
make way for dad simulator walking sims and cock sucking pro homo stories, you can keep em zoomie

>>715535587
The smug gaytheist int he game literally gets punished by the universe retard, did you even play it?

>>715535721
Avellone and that parasite George Zeits (who openly advocated for living life as a malignant piece of shit but don't you dare hurt le heckin animals) are the smug gaytheists

LETS GOOOOOOO
NWN2 WILL LIVE AGAIN
A WHOLE CUSTOM MODULE
RENAISSANCE

>>715534830
>motb on the other hand has the best plot in all of rpg after planescape
How do you say this unironically? MotB was one of Avellone's worst works.

>>715535637
NWN2 OC was written badly as it was. No need for millennials.

>>715530024
Do you have even a single fact to back that up?

>>715535878
In your hateboner you missed the fact that MoTB wasn't Avellone's baby, it was George Ziets'. Avellone (confirmed convincted rapist (recidivist)) ony wrote the companions.

>>715535637
cringy romance

>>715536156
All romance in CRPGs are cringy.

>>715522148
>What's gonna be the major difference between this steam release and complete edition on GOG?
Controller support, basically.

>didnt restore cut content
>didnt update graphics
>didnt even make the server run on 64bit systems

>>715535998
>Avellone (confirmed convincted rapist (recidivist)) ony wrote the companions.
Including the main heroine, who is essentially the main character and the driver of the plot.

Should I play never winter nights 1 first or skip straight into this?

>>715536513
>Including the main heroine
Whom you can eat.

>>715536545
skip

>>715522052 (OP)
will they add woke shit like they did with the first one?

Is the memory leak microstutter bug fixed? Or is the game still unplayable

GOG:
>If you're an owner of Neverwinter Nights 2 Complete, you will receive a 25% loyalty discount on Dungeons & Dragons Neverwinter Nights 2: Enhanced Edition upon adding it to the cart.

>>715531357
Lol
Lmao a ven

>a new generation of autismos will be ruined by Neeshka & Kaelyn never EVER

you wake up sick with amnesia and have to find a cure. boring boring boring.. characters are all just 10th rate formulaic regurgitations of monty python. hunger mechanic, looting, crafting, all tedious chores. combat encounters are lame and repetitive and i have zero in game motivation to fight anyone. with the awful nwn 2 user interface and all its bugs and not even the mediocre story of the king of shadows story. so let down. fuck.

It desperately wishes it were Planescape: Torment, but it's not even on that level.

Why do most people simp and jizz all over this module?

i tired playing this game for the first time afew months ago. i made my guy an evilish white haired rogue. i start the game and my guy's step dad is a gay little gnome, i live on a farm with two gay friends and im in a happy little village. yeaaah i uninstalled right there. dogshit roleplaying where they force you to into a start like that. why the fuck would my guy be an evil rogue if he grew up in a cozy little village. fake roleplaying game

>>715537316
>>715537323
Why did you double post?

goonslop

>>715536673
Wat? I didn't play NWN EE but they didn't do any Siege of Dragonspear shit did they? I thought it was all old content/mods?

>>715536156
>romance
L O L
M
A
O

>>715537620
that would be "a dance with rogues"

>>715537208
Fuck me I was gonna pass on this but you made remember how cute the girls are.

Need low self-esteem tiefling gf
Need bratty ojou sorcerer gf
Need emotionally repressed bald wizard gf

>>715536545
You should only play NWN1 for its modules

>>715537620
sorry zoomie, the mosque is two blocks down

>>715537208
It's impressive how hard Elanee loses to every other girl. Even mogged by Shandra in her own "good girl" role.

is there any reason to play this old shit while wotr pathdinder are there?

>>715536545
Apart from like 1 character cameo they are entirely separate games. 2 is far more companion/story focused, 1 is good but plays more like a tech demo.

>>715539673
MotB has order of magnitude better writing, OC is on about the same level as owlslop, but with slightly worse system implementation

Torio Claven best girl and mogs every grill in the game

>>715539673
NWN2 probably not, for NWN 1 >>715538705

>>715539673
It's much less autistic. On the other hand, the game is painfully easly even on the highest difficulty.

>>715539673
it's fun.

>>715539870
nah i've played nvn1 some times already. underdark was nice, everything else was whatever.

so, why wasn't there NWN 3 or something? between nwn games and pathdinfers there was 15 years gap without dnd 3.5 games. there much be some dnd fuckers that wanted those games, i think.

I hope the persistent world community gets some new life in it from this. I miss those autistic rping worlds.

I've had the removed steam version since forever. Sadly I didn't like it in 2013.

>>715530024
NWN2 was literally censored day 1. The default warlock outfit had a boob window that was there in the preview footage but covered up in retail

>>715539814
NWN2 OC is better written because it's a genuine fantasy. WotR in particular suffers from a terrible translation made by californian millenials who watched too much Marvel.

>>715533282

>>715540124
NWN2 came out too soon, and wasn't compatible with 1's mods, so lots of people didn't give it much attention. Plus there were a fuckload of publisher disputes, which is why the old version got delisted from steam iirc.

>>715540124
I said to play NWN 1's modules

>so, why wasn't there NWN 3 or something?

MMORPGs and fake RPGs like Oblivion, Mass Effect and the like ruined the genre for at least a decade

>>715540306
I remember playing the vanilla NWN2 with a boob window. They got rid of it in MotB because they added a bunch of races with unique skin textures and couldn't be bothered to adapt this outfit to every race.

>>715540416
The original D&D bear chad.

Downloading the GoG version right fucking now.

>>715540643
He's great.

>>715522052 (OP)
>texture pack of 2006 game needs a GTX 1080
>a gpu that can run witcher 3 at 140 fps
>or arkham knight at 200 fps
>or rdr2 at 90 fps
>or ac valhalla at 80 fps
>or resident evil 4 at 100 fps

>>715540739
>40 GB
>DX 11
What the fuck?

>>715537552
>posted 5 seconds apart
learn to read, pajeet

is this one more of a party based rpg than the first one? I might get it if that's the case

>>715541196
Yes you control multiple party members

>>715522052 (OP)
Really good game's. I'm enjoying very well ;)

>fuck dude, you have 3/4s BAB

>>715541196
Yeah, and everyone wants to suck your dick.

I will make a shitty bard pale master without optimal leveling!

It has cross play.
Neat.

>>715541196
It is a proper party based rpg, though only SoZ has a full party creation.

>>715541108
ok but y did u double post tho?

Bought this but from what I'm hearing none of the technical issues were fixed and it's buggy as hell, so I haven't played it yet. Should I just go ahead? I want to be able to refund it if it turns out there's still gamebreaking bugs like the save corruption or memory leak that wouldn't be detected yet

>>715541313
>>715541367
>>715541601
awesome, I'll check it out, thanks
I liked the first one well enough when I played it ages ago but I definitely prefer having a full party of weirdos in these types of games

>This is a shameless cash grab trying to profit off the name of a beloved franchise. They upscaled some textures and called it an enhanced edition. It doesn't have persistent worlds, it doesn't have the modding toolset, and they haven't fixed even the most egregious of the known bugs from NWN2.
Uh-oh

>>715541926
The servers are still 32bit, read that on the Steam forums but that may need confirmation.

>>715541926
From the same people as that dogshit Battlefront remaster

>>715541926
>It doesn't have persistent worlds
I see both the server binary and the toolset in my folder.
Granted, no idea if they work.
But yeah, seems to be a pretty lazy QoL "remaster".

>>715541926
It's $20 in my country. worth it.

Is the UI still dogshit looking MMO tier?

>>715527219
plenty of new stuff is made but you mentally stunted under 30s just cry about it even though you were a zygote when most of these games originally launched so I'm not sure why you care.

>>715542181
Hell, I bought it for 12 thanks to a discount due to having the original version.

>>715542234
just dont look at it

>>715542234
It's an enhanced version, not a remake, anon.

The MP works again I guess.

>>715527219
New things are still being made. It's just we are at the point in which plenty of old games need to be updated in order to run on modern hardware or be put on modern storefronts. Granted, it seems like they didn't fix all that much with this release.

>>715541329
hello saar

If it's on GOG then it's free. Simple as

Is A Dance with Rogues still THE fan module to play? Does it work with EE?

>>715522052 (OP)
did they fix the camera?
this is all i care about.

>>715542967
It seems they did, people are saying it works much better now. I'm still downloading though.

>>715542812
That's NWN1, and yes it works on nwn1ee

>>715541926
>It doesn't have persistent worlds
According to warlockracy the Planescape one still has some players

Will there be a return from the modding community ? Persistant RP servers were so good in NWN1 but NWN2 shat the bed on this.

>>715543331
thanks anon.

>>715523664
NWN 2's story is painfully generic.

>>715543951
What? I thought it was made by Obsidian.

>>715529902
It's more like a 6/10 game that you play once you've replayed all of the other good RPGs to death. A 0/10 game is something that's unfinished and doesn't work correctly like Big Rigs Over the Road racing.

>>715537208
Honestly, Qara and Kaelyn would have been so much better love interests than the stalker druidess and the autistic wizardess

>>715522148
it works on 64 bit systems

>>715530813
You can cast in Horned Devil form with the quick cast menu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMZyVn0y3k&t=25s

>>715546570
Baldur's Gate doesn't work in the engine that looks like Shrek 2.

>>715546804
He did the first one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m6m0ia8COo

>>715527219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCpF7z4JszE

New trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2P00I5nJXk

>>715534928
They made him into a live action.

>>715541578
Levels 1-32? Did they raise the level cap? I thought 30 was the max in NWN2.

>>715547284
This is considered generic?

So should I play nwn 2 or not? And if then what mods or patches I need?

>>715547768
Hard to tell what mods you need considering the overall of the EE.

>>715547768
Yes
None for your first run

>>715542812
Last I checked, it not only works with EE, but was updated specifically for it. That was only the first chapter though IIRC.

>>715544047
Base game is a straightforward and serviceable hero's journey. The writing doesn't become actually good until the DLCs.

>>715548856
>Base game is a straightforward and serviceable hero's journey.
And that's why it's good. I don't get why people want something else than that from a D&D game.

Is Mystery of Westgate good?

>try to start the game
>crash when zooming in on character customisation
>crash when selecting starting feats
>crash when finalising character
not even into the game yet, fucking hell this is miserable
how did they think this was an acceptable release state

>>715549898
Maybe this time I will finally play it and tell you.

>>715548058
>>715548065
How good is writing? Could you guys compare it to other rpgs?

>>715549898
It has some nice ideas like letting you actually become a vampire or wereratwith gameplay changes but it's rather short

>>715550920
The OC and SoZ are generic fantasy adventures. MotB is famously well written.

>>715551186
But is it good generic fantasy?

>>715550920
It's good, I'd say it's above average when compared against other "generic fantasy" game plots.

>>715551346
It's a mediocre generic fantasy, but from the time before every fantasy RPG started having MCU writing.
The OC has a few genuine highlights, SoZ is mostly carried by party creation, jungle setting and freedom of exploration with a lot of skill checks for almost every skill.

>>715522052 (OP)
The DLC still has the most satisfying evil ending ever.
Becoming an eldritch horror that terrorises the gods themselves feels pretty damn good.

>>715541196
NWN1 is a proper party based rpg but you have to enable the secret in game setting to enable controlling party members and also play a non standard module because the base one is lame. Both NWN games have the same problem of a bad main campaign but fantastic everything else.

>>715541926
How the fuck is it 40GBs.

>>715552015
the upscaled textures. they don't necessarily need to actually look good, they just need to take up more space

>>715552015
Engoodened textures of bigger size equals gooder quality, saar

>>715552015
>How the fuck is it 40GBs.
What's up with that 5gb modules folder?

>>715522148
You will be able to play it without crashes and a non puking camera control

>>715553164
Allegedly.
Is there any proof of this?

>>715527219
In this case is better because the old one was unplayable, this is not a "The Last of Us 2 HD Remake"

I remember I was hating Beamdog for their EEs, but now I understand how good they were compared to Aspyr.
This EE is unironically HD textures, slightly changed UI (slightly) and camera improvement.
THIS. IS. FUCKING. UNBELIEVABLE.
I made a quick test of Cleric's Domain Spells and they still can not be made Persistent.
I am waiting for more layoffs, /v/ros...

>>715553240
Is the only point of it being Enhanced, otherwise it would be the same as the one selling in GoG

>>715552015
Badly upscaled textures that could be optimized to look the same but only having a weight of 10 gigas,

>>715553164
It literally crashes more than the original

>>715553380
>I was hating beamdog for their EEs, but now I understand how good they were
To be fair, after they got rightfully shit on for siege of dragonspear, they really improved. NWN:EE is the gold standard with the amount of work they put into it, not just on release but in continued support.

Oh no....

>>715553763
It deserves lower, honestly. The positive reviews are largely about the original game.

>>715553526
Fuck I was hoping for so low and yet they couldn't deliver

oh no no no he boughted the asspyr shit

Welp.

This review is coming from someone who still plays multiplayer on the regular with the GoG version so I am innately familiar with the game. I launched it (when it didn't crash) and it doesn't seem all that different to the original.

I'm happy to update the review come updates, which I hope they will.

The positives:
It's NWN2, it runs about as well as the GoG version. It has some minor changes done to it to be more usable but it doesn't feel all that different to the original complete edition.

The Negatives:
1. No borderless window option
2. 4K UI scaling is awful, the cursor is larger than my thumb. It looks like it was made for blind grandmas.
3. No scaling options
4. Multiplayer browser has been made quite literally worse than the GoG version that has categories.
5. Bugs that were fixed by the community almost over a decade ago are still present.
6. 64 bit client for multiplayer is missing.
6. Graphical options were removed
7. Have to accept EULA every time you start the game
8. "Perform Default action on target" no longer performs default action on target, such as attack the target. So the keybind is useless.

There's little reason to replay NWN2: EE if you already played the GoG version, the changes don't justify it. And the UI changes are worse than base GoG version for 4k monitors which is what I still run the game at. The primary appeal of NWN2 in the long term is multiplayer and that doesn't seem to be in the best place right now with the client and as servers update, the latter not being on Aspyr. There's tons of things the multiplayer community would want and expect from the MP being updated.

I do hope Aspyr fixes the issues as they aren't that difficult to work on in the long term and all pretty minor. Though it is baffling that the server browser was made worse.

So far the GoG version with the community made Client Extender is by far the superior way to play this game, which is baffling.

Should I go with nwn2 complete or ee?

>>715554073
From what I'm reading from the reviews, go for complete, these niggers somehow made it WORSE and didn't fix the camera!

>>715544090
>A 0/10 game is something that's unfinished and doesn't work correctly
Yeah that's nwn2

>>715554117
Thanks

I have Complete on GOG. fuck this shit

>it's another Aspyr release that's worse than the original that's still for sale episode
What is this business strategy called?

>>715522052 (OP)
>spreadsheet simulator
>"game" of the year

>>715522052 (OP)
So did they do absolutely anything at all to unfuck it or is NWN2 still trash?

>>715553986
Another violent diarrhea of an rpg thread, might be time to seek out new genres instead of flooding the catalogue with garbage all day. It's not even worth warning you people about what you're hyping up.

>>715554347
They did absolutely nothing, just grabbed the GoG version and added steam deck compatibility

>>715554032
thanks for the info, anon

>>715553686
>NWN:EE is the gold standard with the amount of work they put into it, not just on release but in continued support.
I'm pretty sure NWN EE also didn't fix the absolute majority of the old bugs that are still listed on the wiki.

>>715554347
UI is slightly less trash so there's that. You can also alt-tab without the game tossing a coin do decide whether it will crash or not

>>715554393
I didn't hype anything.

>>715553686
Not really, anon. It's more stable than the original in terms of locks and crashes, but they didn't really fix much at all, and all their post-release support was largely faffing about adding unnecessary stuff.

>>715554552
>GOTY comes out in 3 hours
Let's face it, even if this had been the best remaster ever the game would still be trash. Go play spelunky 2 or something, enough with this crappy genre.

>>715551923
>to enable the secret in game setting

huh been playing for 10 years & never saw that on the PC version or recent console versions?

>>715554731
I didn't make the thread.

>Go play spelunky 2 or something, enough with this crappy genre.
You seem astoundingly retarded. You can cease your babbling now.

never should have come here

>>715554878
wrong studio m8,that's bethesda!

>>>/vrpg/3803991
>>>/vrpg/3803996

>>715550920
Main campaign I would give a 7/10, the plot is generic but there are some neat sidequests and the cast of companions is excellent. MotB is a 9/10 easily, it gets compared to Planscape often for a reason. Never played the other campaigns.

>>715522052 (OP)
This was a terrible game 15 years ago

>>715555639
MotB is more like KOTOR2 than Planescape, but with the twist that you're playing as the guy who eats the force.

>>715553164
LOL nope

Guys when I try fullscreen with higher resolution my colors are washed up, but when I try windowed mode some of the text is cut up and my cursor is fucked up, What can I do to play in higher resolutions?

Now do an Icewind Dale 2 EE already, I want it my Steam library not GoG.

>>715558443
They lost Icewind Dale 2's source code, so it's not going to happen.

>>715558292
After closing app a few times it started working properly

>>715558553
That's the stock response to that request, but it isn't the desired solution.

>>715553763
What did happen?

>>715558443
Fans already made it
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/87952/icewind-dale-2-enhanced-edition-is-released

>>715558673
Crashgrab and 0 fixes, the worst of the worst, not even borderless window option

>>715558673
Pay more for worse game

>>715558553
Couldn't they reverse engineer it though?

>>715527219
New things are being made but your dumbass femboy ass isn't supporting them.

>>715559212
>>715559853
40 GB was truly a redfalg

>>715522052 (OP)
>you can only romance female characters if youre male or male characters if youre female because unlike modern RPG's, all NPC's are not pansexual faggots and actually see differences between genders
that's the only reason i didn't care to finish Baldur gay 3

>>715534690
I wish remaster actually let us romance Zhjaeve and Neeshka (but only if you pick male MC)

I love Shandra!

>>715537208
I wanted to fuck Qara and Shandra desu, and of course Neeshka
Elanee being the only option, plus baldie is a sick joke

>>715537316
It was a comfy old school D&D heroes journey adventure, I still remember the prologue sequence song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zwXhtUO-QI

>>715560901
>I wanted to fuck Qara
Basaed. She needs big correction.

>>715539673
Pathfinder is woke with Reddit writing. Neverwinter Nights 2 is written by veteran Chris Avellone, creator of Planescape Torment

>>715560351
Look at the other requirements too. It's almost comical.

>>715522052 (OP)
>40GB shitty upscaled textures that nobody wants
Yep. Its Aspyr time! Anybody else remember when they released Battlefront 1 and 2, two games that are like 15gigs combined and somehow bloated it to like 80gigs? That was so egregious they actually went back and shrunk it to mid 30s.

>>715522052 (OP)
OG

>>715540643
Because he isn't gay

>>715560901
Baldie is great you just have bad taste

>>715544142
Obsidian devs hate having to do romance in their games, and intentionally made the romance options in NWN2 abysmal to spite the bioware audience's demands for romance.
>a stinky stalker druid for males
>don't even remember who the love interest for females was.
Was it Sand? Probably not because Sand was a hilariously snobby elf fucker who looped around to being great.

>>715558673
They "enhanced" the scripting distance, so that events are going on at a further distance from the player. However, triggers and encounters were NOT reworked.
And since none of this shit was properly tested, now your dumb village friend warrior will trigger the mage duel in the tutorial by charging forward, and therefore getting your mage killed as part of the cutscene.

>>715561212
EE

>>715561110
She could be pretty cute if you befriended her
More importantly her fireballs carried me throughout the entire game, and made me seethe when the frog bitch and Ammon were forced into my party and she was left out near the end in that one dungeon
As well as losing her for MotB

Wasn't this the first RPG that introduces "customize and build your own castle/base" shitty time wasting in game?? I was already fed up with it when i saw it in Pillars of Eternity

>>715561214
So he's not like you?

>>715559871
not popular enough to justify the effort. System shock 2 got reverse engineered since some unpayed intern lost the source code 20 years ago and it took several years for that to come out

>>715561257
>>don't even remember who the love interest for females was.
How could you forget Darkbrood Edgeguy?

>>715561257
The Paladin and the asshole CE Merc I think

>>715561257
Except Chris wrote Visas Marr, who is my favorite romance in a game.

>>715561257
>>a stinky stalker druid for males
What's the problem with that?

>>715561438
Every other female was miles better

>>715549898
It has some edgy potline about Vampires but it all feels like made by some fan, and not a studio. I think theres not even any dub voice.

I suggest Storm of Zehir since its the only appeareance of Minsc outside of Baldur Gate series. Mask of Betrayal however is better than the base game and all add ons combined. George Ziets magnum opus

>>715561110
I wanted a Sand romance.

>>715553380
They disrespected my RPG. They must die

>>715560901
Neeshka was intended to be romancable but they run out of time

>>715561384
Darkbrood Edgeman was a cool character, as a mirror image of the protagonist. What you could've been, if you were a coward.
They should've leaned into this comparison, made him more openly jeleous, made his bribe some promise to take your place in some capacity.

>>715561423
>Except Chris wrote Visas Marr
Damn, didn't know she was a redhead.

>>715561438
Elanee is kino because she has been stalking you ever since you were literally a kid and she 100+ year old elven maiden
jap tier plot

>trying to romance Neeshka entire game
>she betrays you along with Bishop at the end

So this includes MOTB right? Otherwise I don't see any reason anyone should play this. Nwn2 was always shit until that expansion came out.

>>715561815
The entire cast is pretty good desu.
Even the Reddit Dwarf redeems himself into a decent character and not a complete joke.

OP back, been playing 5 hrs no crashes. No difference in textures desu but ui and camera fixes are nice. Menus are a bit shit tho. Not enough to justify buying if you already owned but if u didn't and hate gogtrannys then worth buying on steam for 20

>>715561943
Yes it has MOTB SOZ and MOW

>>715561683
>not a single post about my guy whomst I modded into Baldur's Gate 3 as a Drunken Master miniboss and wrote a journal where he showed Jaheira the legendary Ironfist manhood
Shameful, the lot o' you.

>>715561943
>Nwn2 was always shit until that expansion came out
brainlet take
It was incomplete and rough around the edges, but there's gold in them there OC.

>>715561924
>she betrays you along with Bishop at the end
Only Quara and Bishop betrayed me from what I remember.

>>715561924
>she betrays you along with Bishop at the end
>he didn't save her from the mindcontrol and bring her back to the party
*spits*

>>715562036
>You want a proper city, you build down, not up.
Based generic dorf.

>>715561924
>Annah from Planescape Torment
>Neeshka from Neverwinter nights
Why can't Avellone ever deliver a Tiefling tomboy romance?

>>715561924
>have qara in my party all game
>enable all her worst impulses and take her side every opportunity
>but sand has higher influence at the end of the game because i let him dunk on everyone at the trial
>so she betrays me and nukes the entire party with every 9th level spell she has
i'll need to enlist the entire oji-san squad for a correction of this magnitude

>>715562170
Neeshka will, if you don't do her quest.
Quara will, if you have less influence with her than with Sand
Sand will, if you have less influence with him than Quara.

I don't remember the rest.

>>715562036
>play as Tiefling
>bro just mumbles how I'm one of the good ones, when it gets brought up why he isn't wildly racist to me like all the other horns heads
He was a cool dude. I let him become a monk because of that even if it made him garbage

>>715561276
What a fucking shit show, can't believe it's even legal to do that.

>>715562170
>>715562175
I think i made her mad at some random city event. I don't even remember if the game sends notification of whether she lose affinity points or not but i guess i didn't bother to reload.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XXPg3wKpLo

Choose
>Style on a dipshit bard by setting your lute on fire and playing it that way
>or steal the asshole's lute, and set him on fire

>>715561924
At least that fucker Bishop get to suffer in the wall for eternity in Mask of Betrayer

>>715562197
>generic
See, this is what people tend to miss about NWN2, everything is dressed as generic but really isn't.
>literally learns how to let go of every dwarf stereotype on the path to becoming a monk
>is actually aware of dwarf stereotypes and dislikes the idea of being just another generic dorf
>is a young hothead instead of an obstinate old fart
>actively pushing against clan and kin but can't let go because of pride instead of the other way around
>actual banter and chemistry instead of just a generic curmudgeon
Peak companion. Sadly, nobody cares since he's not a fuckable gay guy or woman.

>>715561276

>>715562112
Nah. It was never good. Had a worse toolset than the original too, which was the entire point of the series to begin with. Obsidian made the campaign painfully generic and boring on purpose, as a joke. But I ain't laughing.

>>715562491
What the fuck is that original camera segment? It doesn't work like that on my machine.

>>715562639
Yeah there is a bit of deconstruction of the hero archtype especially with Shandra and her father.

>>715562615
He deals with the incoming annihilation of his self surprisingly well desu

>>715562591
>I uhm... like... set the whole place on fiiiire??

>>715562818
I love you too, Qara.

>>715562794
Being an hyper edgelord gave him an advantage in such situations.

>>715562706
>painfully generic and boring on purpose
Litlet drivel. It may not be the best thing out there, the cut content really hampers it, but a lot of what's there is pure gold. The only real issue are the repeated orc caves and RTWP awkwardness.

>>715562740
The whole game is cliches and deconstructions of cliches really.

the trial was pretty cool and you'll never catch me pretending it wasn't

I didn't care for 1.

>>715562740
>Shandra
Such a great character. Literally just a regular person calling out all the adventurer bullshit around her but growing into it anyway. Shame we never really got a character like her in an RPG since.

>>715562818
Female Edwin

>>715562931
Same.
I like a couple of the community modules, tho.
Sadly there aren't that many I like for 2.

>>715563003
More like Full Retard Edwin
>inb4 what's the difference
hurr durr

>>715563047
>Sadly there aren't that many I like for 2.
Baldur's Gate Reloaded module for NWN2 is the best way to play BG1.

>>715562971
>starts out hating you for fucking over her farm and essentially forcing her to go adventuring if she wants to live
>slowly loses the grudge, and even begins to really like you, assuming you aren't a jackass, when she finds out you were just a small time farmer like her too, but in the shittiest neighborhood in all of neverwinter
She truly was best girl

>>715563047
>>715563113
the icewind dale module is great too

>>715551923
>NWN
>party based
if you like playing the game on easy mode I guess. the real challenge is in soloing the game

>>715562818
>If you set fire to the rafters, you'll find the place will draw your energy out of you until you lie quivering on the floor - it is Vanteen's Siphon, if you are familiar with the historical codex bearing his name.

NWN1 modules were peak kino.
And Fairy Sorceress from HotU was my non stop fap. I was native born coomer. Can't find hirez art but picrelated.

>>715564449
Good taste.

>>715564449
I think her pic is also in the OC in act 2.

>>715553298
How the fuck was it 'unplayable" and how is it justifiable to just resell the same game when they could instead patch the old one?

>>715562909
>Litlet drivel.
>pure gold
You can just admit that you're starved for generic fantasy. So starved that you're willing to defend the slog that is the base NWN2 campaign. For me, there are plenty of older games that capture those feelings better and don't have a selection of companions that largely put me to sleep or make me want to blow my brains out.

>>715562639
Subverted my expectations bravo

Well, Baldur's Gate 3 failed to spawn good big mods, so I doubt NWN2 EE will be able to.
My expectations about new modules, or porting old ones, or lasting persistent worlds, are very low.

>>715565363
>Baldur's Gate 3 failed to spawn good big mods
It certainly doesn't help that it didn't have built in user friendly modding tools when it first released, right?
I do hope that Project Strahd eventually releases for BG3.

>>715553380
controller support alone makes this better than beamdog

>>715558443
>you will own nothing and be happy

>>715558553
They lost NWN2's as well, but somehow Aspyr did no work on it.

>>715554257
"Repackaging an old game to sell to people who don't do their research and consolefags."

I spent an hour testing controls on Deck. I like the new UI, the controller layout is solid and the 3rd person camera is very comfortable - they clearly spent all their effort on the controller UI and functionality.
However, the MKB layout doen't work well on Deck - most likely, a Linux issue. The camera movement is weirdly jittery, even though it worked well on Windows.

>audio desyncs
>the character customization sheet is fucked to hell
>the voice barks are either delayed or completely wrong from your actual selection
They really didn't do jack shit.

Played for an hour with my homies, works pretty well. The original never worked online for us, it was unplayable even if we managed to connect somehow.
The only thing which feels bad is load times. Even on a beefy PC with a fast memory, like, what the hell?
Liked the console interface, it feels better than kb+m, but for a caster might be a hustle.
Good to see workshop being added after a slight delay, hopefully some QoL mods will come out.

>>715568420
Pathetic. I can't believe I actually wish Beamdog would have done an EE instead.

>>715568537
>The original never worked online for us, it was unplayable even if we managed to connect somehow
I had that issue. I could connect to one friend or the other, never to both.

>>715568572
Yeah. It's mostly a shit show so far.
Here's hoping they support this for a while and keep fixing stuff.

it runs better than the original and has controller support, you dont need nothing else

>>715569409
I need my character to look like in how I designed him and to use the proper stats, barks and voice lines. Yes. That’s all gameplay related

>>715568572
Beamdog might be shit but at least their remasters were usually functional.
bg 1 and 2 ee were buggy af on release but I never had any problems with anything after that and they gave up on adding their own shitty original content.
nwn 1 ee even still gets support like doom of icewind dale recently. I doubt aspyr is going to involve the modding community like that at all.

>>715562818
Qara and Bishop are the most annoying companions I've met in an rpg. Neeshka is shit too.

>>715527219
Open wide, limbab.

>>715561286
fuck the reviews were right, the mouse is too big

>>715561357
No, Baldurs Gate 2 already did that

>>715522148
Nothing. It's a fucking waste of time and money.

>>715522052 (OP)
yes

>>715522052 (OP)
lol @ remastering that turd

>NWN 2
Ew.
Best modules and toolkit were in 1.

Aspyr really never adds anything proper they just AI upscale everything and call it a day

>>715522148
a lot

>>715561357
yes

>>715571334
no, the bases you get depending on your class are barely customizable in bg2

>>715522052 (OP)
Pratically nothing different from the GoG Complete version. Maybe some more language packs added, that probably can be backported to the original game.

>>715561357
It probably was the reason it was in Pillars of Eternity.

>>715576163
the big difference is controller support. this was for consoles. no reason to get it for pc

are all the people doing mods for nwn1 switch to this or no?

>>715576554
it doesnt even like alt tabbing. really no reason to play it on a computer

>>715576856
NWN2 has been active on GoG for a while and no one bothered. why would they switch now for a version that doesnt even have a good server browser or 64 bit support?

lol what a shitshow, hope the reviews go into negative

>>715576856
lol no.

>>715570851
I loved bringing both Sand and Quara to just hear their bickering. Sand's probably my favourite character in the game with how 'I'm over this shit' he is.

Fighter/Cleric any good or should I just roll a Cleric and build for melee? I've only really played the BGs and the Pathfinders

>>715576856
it's inferior to nwn1 in every way.

>>715576856
probably no

>>715576856
lol

>>715561286
>all they did was add antisoul gas
It's so fucking tiresome.

Only thing I noticed is textures are upscaled so don't look blurry/grainy from up close, and lightning is slightly better indoors
Also feels somewhat smoother to move around

>>715577887
Cleric doesn't need Fighter levels in NWN2/3.5e, you literally do everything for free as a Cleric
At most past level 17 you might consider 2 levels in Frenzied Berserker because Supreme Cleave is that good and by then you have level 9 spells already

>>715580032
ok perfect, thanks

>No borderless window option
for real?

>>715580129
Cleric also has a buff called Divine Power that sets your BAB equal to your level (not even Caster Level, actual character level) so yeah there's a reason Clerics are considered obscenely powerful

>already people besmirching a remaster that makes the game actually playable

>>715577887
try favored soul

>>715580217
>Divine Power
>1 round (aka 6 seconds) per level
yeah, it's trash, only buffs that last 1 minute per level are any good

i'm too retarded and gay to read the thread. how is the port?

>>715581215
can't you just extend/persistent spell it at the cost of a higher spell slot?

>>715581215
nigga you can extend it and have enough level 4 +5 spellslots for that eventually without even needing to rest more than perhaps once per dungeon
And Strength Domain even gets it as level 3

>>715581350
cunts don't let you persist it even as the level 3 domain variant
they know

did they fix the rubberbanding in single player?

>>715581376
this is also NWN2 where resting takes no resources, can be done anywhere, and is literally just kneeling down for a few seconds.

>Shitload of logos/advertising screens once you load it up
>You have to scroll for skin/hair/eye colors now instead of getting a palette like the original.
>Worse camera controls and worse keyboard controls, like half of them missing. You can no longer Q and E to rotate the screen.
>Just a slightly higher texture.
Yep, cash grab.

Worse of all, every fucking server (like the Planescape one) is going to switch over to this shit, forcing everyone who wants to play online to get the cash grab remake.

>>715582048
no one playing this shit. nwn ee exists.

>>715561129
Anon I.....

>>715581350
>>715581376
>extend it
>lasts 9 seconds per level
WOW

>>715582754
it lasts 12 seconds per level when extended
and ideally you want all your level 5 slots as extended Divine Power anyways because it's that good
at level 10 it's 2m for extended and gets longer as you get higher levels
and yes, the spell that good

>>715582754
>can't even do 6x2 properly
at level 10 that's a 2 minute long buff bozo

>>715581376
>cunts don't let you persist it even as the level 3 domain variant
Really? Does Kaedrin change that?
Well, there's always Quicken, I suppose.
Casting it as a swift action is just about as good as having it on already if you don't have other swift action abilities competing for it.

>>715583349
>>715583154
so... garbage basically

>>715580157
isn't this mostly for console release

Camera still completely terrible?

>>715584354
slightly better but not a big improvement

ah, Obsidian's here's 70% of a finished game timespan.

>>715581250
>i'm too retarded and gay to read the thread. how is the port?

Very low effort. The game does run better, especially with the shadows issue from the OG making the game run like ass, but pretty much zero effort is put into fixing any legacy bugs or things Obsidian never patched up concerning how the base game responds to Expansion classes or races.

Unironically, Beamdog did a far better job with their Enhanced Editions. While the new content in the BG EEs were kinda bad, the stuff they did for the actual based games are stellar. Neverwinter Nights 1 Enhanced Edition is particularly fantastic.

Don't know why they didn't just ask Beamdog to handle this as well.

>>715584983
it's not that bad

>>715522052 (OP)
they didn't change anything. this is not worth buying for literally anyone. people that miss this game already own it. people that never played it aren't being presented with a polished 2025 product.

>>715587158
it's not that good either. it's honestly the lowest effort of any of the enhanced edition dnd games they've released so far, it's so weird
that post is correct, none of the bugs were even fixed. all the old bugs are still there. the other enhanced editions had bugs largely fixed

>>715587359
not that weird when you think about it, all the others were made by beamdog

>>715587294
It's absolutely worth buying on Deck, the controller support department did objectively a good job.

fun class recommendation?
I remember picking Warlock back in the days and it was like an archer with eldritch blast.
And all the finess classes were cucked because you can't crit zombies or some shit. I forgor.

>>715588789
in mask of the betrayer most enemies are immune to crits so some classes like weapon master get fucked

is the favored soul any good?

>>715589613
It's one of the strongest classes in the game

>>715588789
Only undead are noteworthy enemies immune to crits and in the OC they only appear en mass towards the end, at a point these classes who always go for dual wield can have multiple powerful properties included on their weapons such as Slay Undead on hit, MOTB has some elementals etc. but by then you also have weapons that bypass immunities or a feat in the case of rogues for half sneak damage vs them

>>715589828
>It's one of the strongest classes in the game
why?

>>715589828
in motb everyone is immune to crits

>>715587359
They say they're still working on the bugs so hopefully some of it gets fixed.

>>715588789
I haven't played this game in over 15 years, but I did remember playing a Bard back in the day in the 2000s, and one of the things I distinctly remember was how many fucking speech checks this game has. You need to convince/swoon your companions, and there was also a court scene in this game, which I won't spoil, that is just speech check after speech check. Also, you have to wander Neverwinter as an offbeat cop which requires a lot of speech checks too or they all end up as fight encounters.

And I remember at that moment realizing playing as a Bard on how the fuck are you supposed to play this game anything other than as a Sorcerer, Bard, or Paladin.

>>715588789
Go for eldritch knight full casting and full BAB

>>715591110
how does BAB work? i mean if you have like 20 levels of wizard and 10 levels of eldritch knight your total BAB should still be shit for a 30 level character right?

>>715522052 (OP)
this game is incrediblely boring as hell. nwn 1 hordes of the underdark is the only good nwn game

>>715588789
druid/pale master

>>715591618
only reason I'm bothering with the base game is because I hear Mask of the Betrayer is very interesting, and I want to import my guy for it.

>>715591683
modding nwn 1 is where all the fun is at. install all of the expansions, but hordes is the best one

>>715591730
I'll probably do that, there's a mod that ups the companion limit right? iirc base NWN1 lets you have one bozo

I like going with a STR unga bunga woman

>>715591789
I'm sure there is. I like making solo OP characters though

>>715591618
>>715591683
OG nwn2 is pretty good, not exceptional but pretty good

>>715591789
the module is balanced around having 1 companion only tho

>nooo you can't go Cleric 18/Monk 1/Paladin 1 and solo everything because...you just can't, okay?

>>715592368
I'm going Warlock and while not having to rest to cast spells is a pro, everything else (there is NO FUCKING SPELLS beyond the level up ones) is a con.

Pathfinder's clone of it is better.

>>715592368
why level 1 of paladin and monk?

>>715587359
Apparently Wizards of the Jew (read: Hasbro) mandated they release when they did when SteamDB leaked the depot.

There is also the fact Obsidian never had the source code IIRC, so it's basically reverse engineering (why Saber is on it, I guess?), similar to Icewind Dale 2.

>>715592330
>the module is balanced around having 1 companion only tho
I suppose but I just dislike the notion of a CRPG that isn't like, a full party. being forced to make my one companion the lockpick monkey because I want to be a chad Cleric smiting the undead with my mace all game kind of blows

>>715580157
Wasn't a thing in 2007. Please understand, large AAA company.

>>715576856
NWN2's modding support has been near non-existant. There are mods out there, but it's not as popular as NWN1.

Shame, since it's the only 3.5E video game out there.

>>715522052 (OP)
Does it have Mask of the Betrayer, or is it just the base game?

>>715592505
>Pathfinder's clone of it is better.
What is it?

>>715576856
NWN2 is an inferior game to NWN1 in every way; even the ancient-looking graphics have more personality than NWN2.

>>715592836
There is the Temple of Elemental Evil. But it takes place in Greyhawk instead of everyone's beloved kitchensink slopkino Forgotten Realms.

>>715592598
monk is op

>>715593258
you can even mod nwn1 graphics to make it look better

>>715593258
I feel like you and I are the only ones who know about the temple of elemental evil. it's such an underrated game

>>715593125
Summoner or Witch. I lean Summoner, even though the Eldritch blasts are replaced by (obviously) Demon Summons.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/summoner/

Does what Warlock does (magic pew pew pew without the tradeoff of having to rest) but more stronger and less limited (needing class ups to gain more Eldritch) becasue your summons/demon is able to powerup sooner.

>>715593258
nwn2 is superior to nwn1 in almost all aspects actually, except the modding tool, so nwn1 is superior to nwn2 overall since only the modding tool matters

>>715591073
you fight?

Is there anything like swordflight for nwn 2?
2 feels like it would be better suited for that kind of autism difficulty module since it has proper party control.

>>715592598
Lv.1 monk gets you Wisdom to AC, and Evasion
Lv.1 paladin gets you Charisma to saving throws

>>715593482
level 2 paladin gets Divine grace

>>715593482
Wisdom to AC only when unarmored

>>715593394
What? No, Pathfinder's clone of the Warlock is the Kineticist. The fuck are you talking about?

>>715593482
you need a level 2 monk for evasion

>>715593747
>>715593695
>>715593859
so... level 18 cleric 1 paladin and 1 monk is just useless trash i guess lmao

>>715522052 (OP)
how does nwn2 stack up to nwn1? i started 1 a couple months ago and thought it was pretty fun.

>>715594118
better honestly, everything outside of modding is better in nwn2

I played NWN1 as a kid (13?) and could never finish the first official module.
I played a lot of custom modules, but they were more screwing around with other people, so despite putting 100-150(?) hours into it I got nowhere and basically did nothing.

>>715594179
age has a lot to do with it, when i was a kid i also often didn't finish games, now i generally finish a game if i start it even if it's med, unless it's total dogshit

>>715594345
What's funny is that I completed exponentially more games as a kid.
For NWN, I just got filtered and I couldn't care to learn actual DND rules to not suck.

>>715593392
I know of it too. Was like one of three GOG games I bought.

there was supposedly a mod called night with neeshka
when i extracted it my hard drive corrupted completely
i don't think it was a virus, but i've never seen mention of the mod when searching for it again

>>715594041
Just do a pal/sorc with auto still spell lategame.

>>715589613
it's charisma-based cleric and trades domains, undead turning and heavy armor proficiency for some pretty useless class feats. Cleric is definitely better

>>715558443
>I want it my Steam library not GoG
you're a hopless idiot, thats why we can't have nice things

should i play NWN 1?

>>715522052 (OP)
After BG: Dark Alliance remaster, i wonder why there are no rereleases of Champions of Norrath or Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. Well, i kinda understand CoN because i doubt that anyone still cares, but FBoS will be an instant hit among streamers just because its reputation. They use the same engine, it should be easy to do.

>>715522052 (OP)
Can i play the campaign co-op with friends or what

>>715558443
>I want it my Steam library not GoG.

>>715522052 (OP)
BG3 is better

>>715522052 (OP)
GOTY already came out in April

Why wasn't this one also given to Beamdog?

Is the ending of the OG campaign really as horrible as people say it is?

>>715606852
Before Mask of the Betrayer saved it, yes, it's very abrupt and clichéed.
After Mask of the Betrayer, it's still a bad ending but it's more of a dumb cliffhanger since the story continues in MOTB. Just don't expect to see any of the original companions again.

bump

>crashes when starting chapter 1
>lose 45 minutes of progress
>no autosaves
Fuck off, give me a full refund and $30 interest for even having wasted time with this horseshit.

>>715611934
NO REFUNDS.

>>715602786
huh?

>>715565168
It ain't nwn2 campaign fault you have shit taste

>>715611934
anon, crashes can still happen in any game, be a bit patient

>>715553380
beambog was good