EA and Ubishit are mass shutting down games before SKG takes effect. It means they are afraid and know it will pass.
If a company has more than 1000 employees or has over a billion dollars in revenue, it should be retroactive.
Sky daddy is not real, that's why you should still be able to own games you paid for or purchased anything in them.
>SKG kills almost all games
I cant stop laughing at this
>>715533712No it didn't. It's saving games.
>>715533405 (OP)>Stop Killing Games>results in lots of killed gamespottery
>>715533679Psalm 14
>The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
>>715535135Yeah unc his goofy ah is not real deal with it!!!
>>715535024what they're shutting down are barely even games; good riddance
>>715535239lol lmao even, you guys wanted this and don't pretend you didn't. you hated live service games and wanted them dead. PirateSoftware was UNIRONICALLY RIGHT, let that sink it.
>>715535345who likes gaas anyway? and remember that you are siding with a literal furfaggot buddy
>let that sink itI don't think I will
>>715535345Take his tiny ferret dick out of your mouth faggot.
What goes around comes around. If they kill off games now people know they are pieces of shit and can either use SKG as a basis for a class action lawsuit later if the game is relatively new and it is obvious the game was prematurely killed BECAUSE of SKG.
But in the end when SKG passes they won't be able to do this, which is what we wanted.
Also SKG has nothing to do with killing live service games at all. You really have no idea what you're shitposting about.
>>715535551>>715535640you dumb niggers, he said this was going to result in bad shit happening and it seems to be happening. you're in hate with that guy but he fucking called it, holy shit how will you live it down.
>>71553351224 years ago, put cd, install, trash cd, install no cd crack, download mods, tons of mods, play game online, if server required specific mod folders, then, create mod folders, add mod folders shortcut on game dot exe, fucking play the game. Why modern games fucking need all this fucking junk?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WITH SKG IN ACTION WE WILL HAVE LESS SHITTY ONLINE-ONLY GAMES??
>>715533405 (OP)That's retarded. SKG would not be retroactive and all they're doing is proving that they DO kill games.
>>715533405 (OP)>kills gaasBased mold man
>>715535768You can still play it offline so this is a "saved" game according to SKG.
>>715535710list three (3) games that were allegedly shut down by ea or ubishit due to skg (which is still collecting votes btw). let's see and discuss what we have lost
>>715533512i never really understood the scale of modern videogame bullshit until i saw this clip
i dont think a game needs this many things
>>715535975how will you live it down, oh my god
>>715536090>only 2% of the game is remaining when it's considered a "saved game"jesus christ, just bury it already it's dead.
>>715536243SKG is like the pet cemetery of video games, it'll come back and wont be what you imagined
>>715533405 (OP)Skg isn't retroactive though meaning current games are unaffected
Even if SKG came into force tomorrow, EA and Ubisoft could still shut down existing games. It'd only apply to new games that they make.
All that'll happen is games that require online will have a sentence on the store page stating "This game is guaranteed to remain fully functional and accessible until at least [date]". Games won't be required to be kept functioning indefinitely since it's not plausible.
Based. Continue to plummet ln value in the eyes of gamers you corporate whores.
>>715533512>Why do games run so poorly now>Gee idk maybe we should copy paste more microservices in to fix itModern gaming needs to die if anything.
>>715535975Anthem, Madden 22 and fifa 23, Assassin's Creed 2 and splinter cell conviction
All in the last few days
>>715533405 (OP)Are they actually so fucking petty that they will start prematurely killing games just to spite their customers?
It's not retroactive, so they have no reason to do this other than just being cunts for the hell of it.
I for one welcome it, especially if EA and Ubishit piss of their existing customers even more.
>>715533405 (OP)Everything that i asked for... and nothing that I wanted...
>>715535024Nothing of value was lost.
>>715533405 (OP)If they're shutting down games in advance, we can safely assume they're also doing everything in their power to remove Game-as-a-Service features from everything still in their development pipelines. Based.
>>715537939>Are they actually so fucking petty that they will start prematurely killing games just to spite their customers?Yes. What's funny is that was Ross' point from the beginning despite people confusing it for whoever that other shit head is.
He was telling people from the beginning that companies dancing around their contempt for customers with legalese is itself a red flag and they will eventually show their hand, whether slowly or all at once.
But the ill informed and delusional bootlickers and shills refused to admit it, of course like a battered wife during a divorce they're going to double down and claim asking for basic decency is what soured a beautiful relation.
>>715536090>i dont think a game needs this many thingsThere are a lot of good lectures from Valve employees about how Dota and CS work behind the scenes, you should give them a watch.
I also love e-celebs, I'm watching Utsuro now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l0P452axvQ
>>715538623Based Moldman. I love the fact that the Freeman's Mind guy is causing companies to seethe so hard just because he wants to be able to play his vidya that he paid for.
>>715536738Like, aside from squeezing more money out of people, what's really stopping publishers from putting out offline-versions of previously online-only games. Even if you can't access online multiplayer, people already have work-arounds that let them play local multiplayer through 3rd-party online servers. Plus, a game being offline means it doesn't have any DRM chugging down the performance, which is pretty good if you want to do local tournaments. Hell, it's even good on the publisher's side, since having a game be offline means that they don't have to spend money on keeping the servers up themselves. And while companies won't get any future microtransactions because of the games being offline, if the game is good enough then the one-time sale of said game could definitely make up for it (especially if it's cheap). And if the game's NOT good enough, then it'll show the publishers what people ACTUALLY want. It'll get us closer to how things used to be, where you could just buy a game and play it as is.
>>715535918That's the main reason I support him. It means the nail in the coffin of western AAA and their self-destructive practices.
Also, I want Warframe to live forever, and given how it's kept going for over 12 years, it'll probably still be around when the SKG laws come into effect.
>>715535640y would skg pass
its gonna get struck down immediately when lawyers say "yeah none of this is compliant with existing regulation, except maybe allowing non-commercial use of assets and putting a sticker on the box that says this is a live service game"
>>715535975Dead
-Anthem
-The Crew
In danger
-Ultima Online
-Practically every Ubisoft game since 2009, especially those who have excessive online functions, like the Anno series since 2070.
>>715533712Just some late abortions for the abominations that should not have existed.
>>715533405 (OP)>EA and Ubishit are mass shutting down games Such as?
>>715540042>thing but weebhave an upboat fellow 4channer xD
>>715537451>Anthemthat floppa still had servers up? anyway, the rest is just fomo and two games released 15yrs ago; actually curious whether anyone was playing ac2 and conviction on the official servers
>>715537451>>715540006in what way was the cause of their demise the skg campaign? weren't they just dead for a while now?
>>715533512corpo-kikes never reply to this webm
>>715540570its kind of a red herring anyways
>look at all the stuff u dont need to run a server!>what do u mean u didn't code it 100% by urself and ur not licensed to redistribute it?
>>715539394companies view their old products as competition for their new ones
why would people go to new thing when old thing is good, if not better?
>>715533512>>715540570It's just a shotgun argument, and most of these things actually are essential if you want to preserve the game rather than make an entirely new game, SKG justifies itself on a game preservation basis, yet asks games built around esports and competitive matchmaking to ditch anything to do with it, asks games made around player customization and skins to get rid of those skins, i thought the point was that we wanted people to keep access to shit they bought?
Rather than gut the game and spend money developing a new game why wouldn't they just sell it as GaaS which SKG doesn't want to regulate, pretty ironic considering it's one of the areas most sorely in need of regulation.
SKG shills, please explain to me why you want every online game to be sold as a monthly subscription? Why would you rather pay 10-20 dollars a month for a netflix like online gaming subscription instead of being able to buy a game for 30 dollars on sale and play it for years? You know you still wont own the games right?
>>715540886for some reason they also consider buying a skin in a f2p gacha game as ownership of the gacha game and think that means u should be able to run a private server for it without the skins
off topic eceleb shit
let the mods know discord spammed another thread
>>715540871A lot of publishers don't realize that they can sell old and new games at the same time for more money. I know SOME publishers do, that's why there's been an uptick in collections lately. But this mostly towards recent online-only games that can easily be converted into offline games. They don't even have to be great games, there are people out there who still want to play games like Rumbleverse and Multiversus despite their middling demises. Just make them cheap $20 releases with everything unlocked and BOOM, quick and easy money that can be pumped into newer projects.
>>715541054THATS NOT WHAT SKG IS ABOUT STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION PIRATESOFTWARE ALT READ THE FAQ IT IS VAGUE ON PURPOSE.
>>715533679this but unironically
>>715541436its vague because they dont understand eu laws and regulations and none of this will hold up in parliament lol
>>715540654all software should be legally required to be released as fully open source 10 years after first commercially sold/licensed
Next lets force devs to always allow for a way to purchase the game even if its free so you can claim ownership and limit the cost of the ownership copy if there is a free version to $60.
>>715535726modern people barely know what a folder is on a pc, anon.
>>715533405 (OP)Which game is EA shutting down?
>>715540886interesting that games like half life 2 deathmatch for instance which basically nobody plays is still perfectly playable right now and lacks most of the bullshit from this webm. curious!
>>715541436WTF NIGGER I READ THE FAQ AND HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT I SAID
>>715541795Literally an AI answer and it's correct.
>>715541889Oh shit hope they do this before any cool gacha drops
>>715541054>think that means u should be able to run a private server for it without the skinsdunno why you're making it sound so difficult
>>715541931They could make something out of it, they bragged a while ago about 2.0 but canned it, flying and shooting was fun but plot was abysmally bad. Just make a sandbox out of it and make good progression system with coop. I hate corpo culture with a passion.
>>715533405 (OP)>every single producer response to SKG has made the shills white knighting them look even more retarded as they're forced to defend them
>>715541931Anthem has been basically dead forever and nobody gave a shit about it. Most people reacted to this news by saying "wtf Anthem was still up?" because nobody cares. So I'll rephrase: which active and relevant game is EA shutting down?
I'm totally going to side with the ferret fucker, keep at it
>>715542198at this point if I was a company with shit PR like Riot games I would have supported it.
>before SKG takes effect
Fucking retard LARPer, SKG is not a law, it's a petition to start a conversation about writing a law, which would not only take years but would inevitably include grandfather clauses for games that were released or already in development prior to the law taking effect, which in itself would be a certain grace period after it passed. Learn how governments work you ignorant zoomer faggot.
>>715541889ROSS ALREADY DEBUNKED THIS CORPO SHILL. THE EU WILL FIGURE IT OUT AND EVERYTHING WILL BE FIXED. THIS IS NOT A LAW PROPOSAL DUMBASS.
this is all misinformation btw
>no we will not force you to give up any ip
>no this doesnt conflict with licenses from other software companies
these 2 statements are contradictory, because you are not legally allowed to redistribute software you do not own
so skg is trying to rewrite ip law to force server binaries to be licensed as redistributable, which is ip theft
>>715541865okay so just outlaw modern technology and any game design that has advanced past 2005 because... oh wait, you forgot to regulate GaaS, so nothing will change except everyone pays more subscriptions, great job SKGigger!
>>715542258So what is the threshold of people playing the game so that would be ok to destroy it.
>>715539827New laws can modify existing laws you dumb fuck. Kill yourself.
>>715542454why should I sign this if it wont help me?
>>715542551>private servers are not gdpr-compliant due to breach of international data transfer laws>but we can just rewrite the gdpr out of existence so it's ok
>>715542536>so just outlaw modern technology and any game design that has advanced past 2005 because..god PLEASE
>>715542551are they trying to modify existing IP law? no they aren't, these retards have no conception of it
>>715542549Preferably a game that's not been wholly rejected by its target audience and been considered dead for years. If you told me EA was taking Titanfall 2 down or something now that'd be news, but nobody gives a shit about Anthem. It's like saying some literally who Star Wars disney movie got shelved, nobody cares.
>>715542258It's not about that anon.
I only care about this as it might make less multiplayer games happen and more single player games happen
>>715542454>its an initiative to start a conversation>people start talking about negative consequences that it could have>"NO NOT LIKE THAT STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION IT IS NOT A LAW PROPOSAL EVERYTHING COULD BE CHANGE AND GET FIGURED OUT LATER GO KYS"
>>715540323anime website nigger
cope, seethe and dilate
>>715542669actually this does
skg would force companies to redistribute the server binary, enforcing a more permissive license on copyrighted code, which is ip theft by a government entity
>>715542662you're a regressive luddite that's literally afraid of technology you claim to want to preserve, technology you don't even begin to understand, god forbid anyone have a new or innovative idea
>>715542673Either bait or you have the most cucked, consooom defeatist mentality.
>>715542763There's no reason to think that will happen. Multiplayer games don't become less profitable if this passes. It's just the difference of
>"We shut off the master server because we don't think we can make money on this game anymore!"and
>"We shut down the server, but here's the code so you can do it if you fans still want that duty."
>>715535345>you hated live service games and wanted them dead.yes and?
>>715538623>Be videogame company >Make games >Hate gamers Imagine running a burger joint and you hate your diners. It's so bizarre.
>>715542954Excuse for not pretending to give a shit about Anthem.
>>715542968nobodys asking for code. only the binary
sadly thatll probably be a reason skg dies is because distributing unsupported software as a licensed version would make raise any cybersecurity expert's eyebrows
>>715542535that's why picrel was misinformation, because ross thinks new exploits wont be found in software years after the game shuts down and nobody will have any way to patch it without hex editing the patch in or applying mitigations somehow
>>715535135>my religion has an explanation why everyone isn't an apparent believer!What a coincidence. So does every other religion.
>>715540886Here are the two options. Close everything and stop selling game, or stop official support and servers, let players do their own servers and pre-unlock everything (if anything buying in-game items was a license to use before).
There, now you can still sell the game itself and even more, maybe that unlock of items, plus maybe some specific user support will boost game sales.
>>715542968I didn't think....
>>715542785>people start talking about negative consequences that it could haveNot what happened, faggot. You and your cock swallowing e-celeb cult leader tried to fearmonger and get the initiative killed so the conversation could never happen. History revisionism doesn't work here, kill yourself you miserable fucking failure of a shill.
>>715533512I think some of them are important, like a friendlist, if the game has an online aspect, that you should leave it to the people with dedicated servers and shit, I'm not sure how it would work though.
>>715536090Some of this is just bullshit because it's unavoidable.
Of course you need a way to distribute the game files and updates.
Of course you need debugging tools for testing.
Sure, they're not needed to run the game privately but they're 100% necessary otherwise.
>>715533512>it's fine that you lock me out, Valvedisgusting pigs
>>715543174Hate it or not, Anthem has its place in gaming history, if only for its downfall.
>>715536090just wait til u find out how much of it is legally required for them to run to be gdpr-compliant
>>715533405 (OP)>I hate the government, they want to kill and enslave us all>Save us government, we fully trust you won't screw us over after giving you more power to control us! Again!
>>715543206>nobody will have any way to patch itLegitimate question
Are you 12 years old?
>>715543096>buys game that is explicitly sold without server files>gets exactly what they paid for>accuses you of robbing and scamming them>starts demanding regulation to fuck you in the assI would hate gamers too if i had to deal with this is as a publisher
>>715543206>nobodys asking for code. only the binaryPotayto potahto
You knew what I meant and still got all anal about it
>>715543383surely the guiding hand of the free market (the thing driving rampant enshittification) will save us
>>715543383>I hate corporations, they want to kill and enslave us all>Save us corporations, we fully trust you won't screw us over after giving you more power to control us! Again!
>Live-service Games are dying
This is a bad thing?
Would it be ok to just throw all the code on a github repo?
>>715543430im anal about it because it relates to this cybersecurity argument, without source code it's extremely difficult to secure software
since skg isn't asking for source code they'll have to find another way to deploy patches
>>715543383>You can never ask the government for anything, because somewhere on /v/, someone said they don't like the governmentBrilliant.
>>715543265I never watched a single video of PS and never think about him. That guy seems to live rent free in your head though.
>>715543385what do you expect of commies?
>>715533405 (OP)Based Jesus hates ubishit too.
>>715543385Put the binaries in the bag, faggot.
>>715543531not in most cases as you have to be licensed to every single line of code you put up on github or else you've committed copyright infringement, and proprietary software usually involves a lot of using code that doesnt belong to you
>>715543546>hey, daddy government, I support this, which you also support for some weird reason>you don't kick the invaders out, but pls help with my bing bing wahoo>no, it affects me because i just buy these Ubislop games for some reason halp
>>715543383It's the EU. I get all of the benefits without having to live in the shitty ass EU. What's not to like?
>>715543385>buy game>can't play it now>"THIS IS A GOOD THING, ACKSHUALLY"
>>715533512Oh fuck, isnt this the kinda shit investors would screech about if they saw?
Now I understand why """"devs"""" terrified of this.
>>715543454I fucking hate people who think Smith's ideas translate perfectly to today's economic realities. The invisible hand worked back then because pretty much every business was local so bad products and services would fail in the face of good products and services.
>>715543489No one is making you buy their games commie. They have zero actual power of you.
Do gamer feel as if they are forced to buy corporate slop games, and then consider themselves scammed if said games don't live up to their expectations?
>>715543738more realistically what's going to happen is what happened with gdpr
anything skg-noncomplaint will be stripped out of the game and the publisher will maintain an eu-only build
>>715543531Theft and intellectual property violations are rampant in enterprise gamedev.
Sharing raw code would shine a light on the fact that corpo devs are constantly cutting corners on licensing fees and refusing to pay their dues.
>>715543716Are you insane?
There's so many things wrong with what you just said.
>>715543454If people want to eat shit you are not going to stop it. There is an entire religion surrounding eating cow shit.
>>715543489Nice strawman. Nobody is giving corpos more rights other then the government you worship.
>>715543546It's a damn good idea not to get the government involved in anything. This was common sense but you lefty retards keep asking for it then wondering why your enemies have so much power now.
>>715543630Commies are really fucking stupid. I heard of giving them more power for safety, but this is giving them more power because shitty modern games are being taken offline.
>>715543784my expectations are that things sold without an expiration date shouldn't be rendered inoperable by the seller after an arbitrary amount of time, yes
>>715543895>yes daddy government let more browns into my nation!>as long as I can play my goyslop games!
>>715543784actually the Crew was online for 10 fucking years.
tons of games were shut down after 1 or 2 years only.
>>715535345You are gonna choke on that cockroachcock. If this is the price to pay moving forward then it's a sale.
>>715543895We're getting a lot more random spergouts lately.
Yes, its schizo shit just as you said. Pay them no mind.
>>715543846>eu-only buildthat already exists.
Last of Mentally Ill of Us had a EU-only build, which was censored.
>>715544018thats rly the only thing i think we'll get out of this
there'll be a sticker on the box that says "this game may die someday"
and gamers are so fucking retarded that they didn't fucking know that already when they bought a live service game
>>715543746If you buy garbage, always online, multiplayer crap from the same companies that have a track record of shutting said shit down, you honestly deserve to be scammed.
>>715543716>>you don't kick the invaders out, but pls help with my bing bing wahooThis is what gets me. You have literal criminals going around doing whatever they want because stopping them would be racist but these s_ y filled faggots are screaming the government to help them keep their shitty Ubisoft games. Newsflash, your not going to even be able to afford electricity to run your video games in 10 years.
>>715542258not
the
fucking
point
what matters to you if i'm playing a game with 10000 people or with half a dozen? the point is that whenever i get to play a game i bought is decided by me, not by the company who sold it
you mouthbreathing retard
>Same bait posted over and over again
>>715544110>EU-only build, which was censoredTHANK YOU GREAT EU LEADER
I DON'T WANT VIOLENCA IN MY ADULTERINO GAMES
>>715543716>no argumentConcession accepted.
>>715544005>It's a damn good idea not to get the government involved in anything.We have a government. They have powers. We should use those powers to protect the consumers. What, you think the government will just die of atrophy if you don't ever ask them for things they're SUPPOSED to do to protect us? Fucking retard.
>you lefty retardsOh, it's a false flag. Which indian call center do you work for? I know /v/ is dumb but probably not dumb enough to lick corporate boot just because you play the MUH LEFT card.
>>715543213>paganism slop
>>715544110ya thats what im saying
now there will be call of duty (global) and call of duty (single player only)
>>715537939Other way around. It's not retroactive, so the safe move is to make sure that the games can't in any way be considered to still be in active development.
>Oh, you added a Lisa Simpson skin to your 8 year old game after the law got finalized? Better show us your EOS plan.
>>715544019>YOU CAN NEVER ADDRESS THIS ISSUE BECAUSE LOOK OVER HERE, LOOK! ANOTHER ISSUE! JINGLE JINGLE LOOK AT THE KEYS, YOU PROBABLY RACIST GAMER
>>715537451Anthem had a planned shut down before SKG gained steam. You lying fuck.
>sports games>AssCreed>TomClancySlopGood riddance
>>715543702well good thing companies can just plan ahead if a law is placed.
>>715543383The EU has made pro consumer rulings without being forced.
The video game industry has consistently put the consumer in a worse position if nothing is done to prevent them from doing so.
It's frankly retarded to think doing nothing and hoping current problems will stay isolated to a single genre is a good idea.
>b-but they might go too far!You're the people saying we shouldn't care because it only impacts shit games.
If they go too far then only shit games will be impacted. You can't weasel your way out of this one without admitting you were conern trolling when you originally told people not to care.
Make way, the burgerclaps have arrived.
>>715543630>government regulation >communismNot your smartest post, dumb samefaggot.
>They're genuinely panicking now.
>>715544429>The EU has made pro consumer rulingsha ha ha
>>715533679>Sky daddy is not realProof?
>>715544284>Appeal to authority>Just trust the government even though I spend years seething about how evil they are and can't be trusted>Just give them power, they can be trusted!>Also I hate you racist chuds but I am going to call you a jeet because... because I hate you!You people really are a special breed of retard. No fucking shit Trump won.
>>715540956>grass roots movement>shillskys
>>715544437>we are just forcing people to do things the way we say>just comply>we are not commies>government says we are not commies, so we are not commies
>>715544424yeah that's where we get into the lobbyist argument that "this will cost a lot of money"
they weren't just pulling that out of their ass, gamers don't realize how much outsourcing of code is done in video games. we're actually talking potential billions of dollars of redundant wasted effort year over year across the industry because nobody can share code without licensing it as bsd or MIT or something
>>715543218>stop official support and servers, let players do their own serversalready happens totally legally without SKG
>>715544429>Made pro consume rightsToo bad they tax you guys to shit so you can't actually afford anything and arrest you for mean tweets. I stand by my case not to trust the government.
>>715544162This has nothing to do with immigration you fucking retard. Nobody said "DIVERT ICE FROM ROUNDING UP FOREIGNERS, WE NEED THEM ON GAME PRESERVATION DUTY!!"
Like, get a grip, both can be done at once.
>>715544538Agreed, we should only trust the government when they make pro corporate legislation.
>>715544538it's funny.
>yeah, we know you fuck children, and for some weird reason you aren't all arrested, but please fix our bing bing wahoo games
>>715536738Yes, they can do that, and after [date] they will have to upload an offline binary for it or the server files.
>>715544657it must really have burned your balls when you realised you had to deflect rather than tacitly admit your hypocrisy
>>715544656So what's the problem with mandating it?
>>715533712>NOOOO NOT MY SELF-IMPLODING DEI SLOP!!!! BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS HAVE RIGHTZ TOOOOOO!!!!!!
I don't actually care about The Crew or any other AAA live service slop being shut down but I still support SKG because I want Ubishit, EA, and game devs in general, to suffer.
>>715544687>The government abusing its power has nothing to do with the government abusing its power>Just play bing bang wahoo and ignore reality>>715544693>>715544729Now you are just shitting and pissing your pants because you ran out of arguments. You lost.
>>715544538"Stop Killing Games" isn't awarding the government more jurisdiction than they already have, you fucking mongoloid. It's saying "TAKE THE POWER YOU HAVE AND USE IT FOR GOOD"
>>715543383>This kid got told take out the garbage and went "THE POWER! I HAVE GARBAGE POWER!"Powers are different from tasks. They already had the power to do or not do it.
You fucking idiot.
>>715544845>no, we don't tell them to get more powers>we just tell them to force even vidya devs to do what THEY demand>that's not extending anyones powers.
>>715544827You've done nothing to stop the government, why should I listen to you?
if you unironically support this trash you deserve to die
>>715542536Everything will change, you're out of time
Anyone else sick of this eceleb underage spam garbage? Why can't you keep it to one thread?
>>715544845this will probably fundamentally change ip law and copyright law, as well as rewrite a good chunk of gdpr
this is an extremely broad-strokes regulation they're asking for, and gamers don't understand it because they don't work in the industry
>>715544538>make a retarded strawman>reply and kiss your own ass with some variation of "it's funny that they believe strawman/deflection X, fucking commies"That you've done this repeatedly and still it's fooling anyone is staggering.
>>715544548There don't exist grass root movements in politics
>>715544907Correct, it's already in the law, just not enforced.
>>715533405 (OP)SKG (Start Killing Games) is already a massive success lads!
>>715544827>any use of power is an abuse of powerLOL what ever you say, anarchist schizo.
>>715545029i prefer TGD (total game death)
>>715545041i work in software development and especially open source software development so i actually do have some idea of where this is going, yeah
>>715544845>Giving the government more power isn't giving them more power!You commie double thinkers have completely lost the plot.
>>715544907Video games is the last industry that says "You buy product, but we have no obligation to let you keep that product."
This is about the law catching up to games, not twisting their arm to go beyond reasonable expectation.
>>715545028>commies already have the power to force everyone to do anything>like raping babies, and killing babies andthey and what army?
>>715545008>Anyone disagreeing with SKG is a shill! I know because I've made 500 SKG threads in the past 2 weeks!what did he mean by this?
>>715545008You can make any dumb argument you want but at the end of the day everyone here see's you are asking the government for help which involves giving them more power.
>>715545124>you buy productno, you actually buy a service.
at best you buy a product plus use SERVICES *for* *free*
PCiggers buy services only, except on GOG, where they pay for bits, which is retarded.
Thor was right... SKG has done nothing but kill games. why didn't we listen?
>>715545123What's up with your pic? Don't tell me you want the government to stop homelessness?
>>715545246YEAH THATD BE GREAT U CAN START BY GIVING THEM FUCKING HOMES LIKE THEY DO IN LITERALLY EVERY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY ON THE PLANET
>>715545246>you can't stop homelessness!!!
>>715545223So? If it benefits me I'm for it.
>>715545123It's the absolutely correct take though. The government already has jurisdiction over this. There's zero additional rights they get by enforcing fair dealings here.
>>715545346explain what you mean by jurisdiction
>>715545313sorry, homes are for immigrants
>>715545313give migrants free homes?
yes, of course we do that.
poor migrants
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>>715545313>lets have the government steal homes (trough tax) from innocent productive people and give them for free to worthless drug addicted bumsCommies are so delusional my god
>>715545346the government currently does not possess the ability to force software developers to pick a permissive license for a copyrighted binary
that would be a new power the government gets from skg and that fundamentally changes IP law
>>715545313>Just give people who eat drywall and steel copper free homes to buy more drugsI can see that going well.
>>715545330>If it benefits meYou literally can not guarantee that. No fucking shit you keep falling for it.
>>715545346>>715545440>No, I wont explain it, just trust meNo wonder your side is crashing and burning
>>715545346>they can force any company to do whatever they wantno, they don't.
>>715545440so you're a child, I knew it
>>715545389The ability to fucking kidnap you and make you stand trial if you don't play by their rules. The government already has that in this situation. It's just changing what constitutes playing by their rules. There's already extensive rules you have to follow here.
>>715545227>no, you actually buy a service.Then it's time to reclassify it as a product. Fuck that description of what a video game is. Fuck your
>"YOU'RE JUST RENTING A LICENSE"If that's all it is, and that's excuse to fuck us in the ass, CHANGE IT.
>>715544637>>we are just forcing people to do things the way we sayDo you realize that defines literally every single law any country has ever had or will have?
>>715545327Why is his name WilhelmA in Russian? Isn't the -a suffic feminine?
>>715543383>Only extremes exist in the world.Autism
>>715545570>they can uhhh murder you "legally">and they can "legally" fuck your children
>>715544303>paganist country
>>715545476This shit already happens in German, UK and Canada and everyone thinks its a good idea because its saving brown people.
>>715545505No one is forcing them to pick any license
>>715544791I don't think it will, but I hope.
>>715545662No, they actually can't legally murder you over this. You have to escalate further.
>>715545570nigger if u go straight to "if u dont do literally anything the government says they can arrest you" without there being a LAW present that lets them do that then u live in an insanely authoritarian shithole
>movement to fix an issue with the gaming industry
>unfuckable rightoids desperately try to co-opt it into a soapbox for made up shit
lol
lmao
>>715543383What are we forfeiting to the government through this proposal exactly?
>>715545586anyone with a brain (you don't) understands that multiplayer services are not yours and will get shut down.
In fact you accept it regarding Steam, because you are a hypocrite.
>>715545620What was considered extreme just 10 years ago is now a centrist position.
>>715545725they can't?
but the commie said they can.
>>715545728The law allows the corporation to fuck you in the ass and if you deny consent, the government will arrest you.
>>715545743>Lefties who always cry about evil governments proceed to beg and ask the government to help them and consent to giving them more power then wonder why everything is shit like a dystopia
>>715545843>oh noes, "the law" forces me to buy multiplayer games>ahhhhhhhhh
>>715545725good thing suicide is illegal and two minus make a plus, Chekcmates
>>715545830They can kidnap you and make you stand trial over this. That's not murder.
>>715545749basically they'll have to redo gdpr to support private servers and force companies to license code in a specific way, which will mean rewriting copyright law too
>>715543491If companies choose to stop making live service games after SKG goes through as opposed to restructuring them to be usable after official support, then they were not commited to the model and didn't give a fuck about making good online games.
>>715545751Why should I be OK with a multiplayer game getting the cord pulled? Why are YOU? Fuck EULA's that say they can take away your purchase at any time for any reason (or in Blizzard's case, for NO reason).
You are legitimately telling me "YOU WILL OWN NOTHING, NOW BE HAPPY"
If you're unironic, you're a shithead. If you're arguing because it's fun, you're a shithead. If you're an Indian paid to do this, fuck you Ranjesh, you shithead.
>>715533405 (OP)Wouldn't that have the opposite effect?
>>715545935>you see, they don't murder you>they just kidnap you, and throw you into a little room and then some weirdo in black tells you that you are guilty and then they shoot you>using guns that they bought with your money, that they stole>"legally"
>>715533405 (OP)>why it matters to christiansFucking what? What in the world does a bunch of neckbeards arguing about private servers for their goonergames have to do with Christ?
Im so sick of this protty bullshit where our Lord is some political pawn for your petty squabbles, and before some protslop fool says something about it, yes, that goes double for amerilard bishops that try to turn the Holy Family into a bludgeon for mexicans to break down amerilard borders.
>>715545743It's not. It's jews and indians.
>>715543385Nothing was bought explicitly, the nature of me leasing a license to the software, regardless of if I maintain the physical storage device the software is on, is a concept that was downplayed until a few short months ago.
>>715545920The law allows the company to redefine your single player game as a multiplayer game and make you delete it from your PC with force. The fact that they don't do that doesn't change their right to do that.
>>715545970no, I say don't buy multiplayer games when you have a problem with multiplayer games getting shut down and not running endlessly
>>715533405 (OP)So the christcucks are on our side now too?
>>715546060If you payed any attention to politics over the last 8 years lefties are trying to guilt trip Christians into supporting the left's side even though the left hates Christians.
>>715546140Nah, I'd rather just own the things I buy. Just like it has worked for millenia.
>>715546102>redefineit's a multiplayer game
>no, no, Fortnite is a single player game!!!meds
>PCdestroyed by Valve and you let them
>>715546198That's not a good thing, they eat their savior, which is kinda evil.
>>715546140Step 1 is not buying from companies with bad business practices. Step 2 is having the government (rightfully) step in and say "This EULA is shit and unenforceable"
It doesn't have to end with me voting with my wallet, and it shouldn't end there.
>>715545947I don't see myself having to give anything up there, just the companies who already have to follow modern consumer protection laws for products they make.
>>715533405 (OP)if that is really the reason why they're doing it, they're really fucking stupdcause even if SKG passes, it'll only affect future games, not ones that are already live, so none of the games they might be shutting down would be affected anyway
>>715546223>just like it has workedgo to arcade
play game for 30 minutes
>NOOOOO, I DESERVE TO PLAY THIS GAME NOW ENDLESSLY FOR 5000 YEARS>FOR 50 CENTS
>>715546316What are their views of corporations and their bootlickers and what kind of games do they play?
>>715546225If you're correct, the company can actually make you buy a multiplayer game if you buy any game.
>just pirate lolThat's a concession, we're talking about law here. You don't have a right to pirate by law.
>>715546397How about before the arcades?
>>715546383no and publishers are probably pretty confident this isnt going to go anywhere near being passed
>>715543206>would make raise any cybersecurity expert's eyebrows>make >raiseHi cyber security expert here, just wanted to let you know that you're retarded. Fans have not only been patching games but also following more up to date security protocol than some companies and have been since 2003. Also colossal data breaches on fan run services are typically less dangerous due to the extremely reduced amount of information they holster from users, as well as reduced exposure from attacks on fan services due to their much more expedient responses to such breaches where as a shareholder invested company will withhold information and accrue further damages because of potential lawsuits.
I'm sorry I had to tell you this & I am fully aware you will cope regardless.
>>715546327it is.
>but daddy communist governmentwill never help you, JUST don't buy it. It's that simple.
otherwise next:
>NO, EU government DEMANDS that you comply with DEI and inclusivism>otherwise can't sell your game either hurr>NO, EU government demands that you tone down that violence and remove shooting migrants, instead put in wh*te people
>>715546327>Step 2 is having the government (rightfully) step in and say "This EULA is shit and unenforceable">It doesn't have to end with me voting with my wallet, and it shouldn't end there.An EULA being shit and unenforceable won't magically entitle you to property (server files) that were never even part of the transaction you moron. It doesn't work like that.
>>715546401they love the Vatican corporation.
>thank you Vatican>now I will give you my last monies, because you don't have any
>>715546198They're the ones running the actual underground pedo ring and in control of amerilard politics, so we need their help now.
>>715546383Thats a significantly bigger win that I think you're making it out to be. Of course we'd love to preserve older games too but legally what can be done there? You could force them to cancel their current game services but it would be a grave overreach to enforce them to rebuild the entire game when some of these discussed methods would require that implementation begin at the beginning of the project.
>>715546515>will never help you, JUST don't buy it. It's that simple.I will push for rights ON TOP of not supporting bad companies. There's no reason not to do both.
>>715546578>AHA! YOU DIDN'T TYPE UP EVERY ARGUMENT SURROUNDING SKG IN EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MADE!!! GOTCHAYep you really got me
>>715546607The ones running burgerland are the kikes, not the christcucks.
>>715546625>rights>with commieswith commies you lose
>bothyou are against open markets
>>715546607Muslims are literally openly bragging about running pedo rings in the UK and Germany and you are seething about some conspiracy theory because you hate Christianity.
>>715546507hey someone that actually plays video games here
in the wow private server sphere we're constantly talking about vulnerabilities in the 1.12 client that were never patched and can't be patched
also we just had a major data breach and everyones emails chat logs and password hashes were leaked
nice try tho
>>715546723>p*do ringschurches have experience with that, especially with the coverups
SKG doesn't retroactively affect existing games, but OP knows this.
>>715546720Shut the fuck up you red scare retard. I swear to god you false flaggers go immediately to calling communism every time someone not a CEO stands to benefit.
>>715546726I never said it was impossible. Can you not read anon?
>everyones emails chat logs and password hashes were leakednice try tho
Great so nothing of value was taken. Great own retard
>>715546832>fuck indiesno, fuck you.
>>715546060You don't think Jesus would kick a jew if he came across a merchant who sold things which between the time of purchase and it's first use shoves an EULA in your face, among other things, telling you the merchant can take and/or destroy any and all parts of the thing; which he then he does?
>>715546832you don't know what false flag means
>>715546878>loves indianspathetic
>>715546878If indies want to run a GAAS scam like Triple A does, yes, fuck those indies.
>>715546214>If you payed any attention to politics over the last 8 yearsI gave up when the orange faggot stabbed us in the back, I obviously know from church politics that degenerates in unusually high places were laying stones for left wing scum, but I know no secular details aside from that gay ass "he gets us" slop thats clearly trying to get people to accept a satanic mimic of God
>>715546832You literally have a communist running for mayor in New York.
>>715546916Yes I do. (You) are a corporate shill pretending to be merely pro-capitalism when you're really just being paid off to torpedo consumer protections.
>>715546873>cyber security "expert" killed by realitybtw good luck making ur private server gdpr compliant, i'm sure that'll be a hot topic in parliament when skg asks them to rewrite gdpr to allow for randos to transfer data internationally
>>715546975>I was betrayed by Trump>But I hate you white Christians even more!You're not fooling anyone.
You lefties are really obvious to point out. Also this is about video games and giving the government more power, which you lefties love to do only to bitch about it later.
>>715545617It's in genitive case.
>>715546715>uhmm it's the kikes, just ignore the fact that most repubs are TBN supporters, has large access to several countries due to backdoor government fundings, forcing to admit there is no list, and repeating like a broken record about the wokes
>>715533512>If a company has more than 1000 employees or has over a billion dollars in revenue, it should be retroactive.This unironically.
>>715547039Maybe we wouldn't have support for that kind of nonsense if consumers were protected better up until now by the people who were supposed to protect them. Step on the little guy too much, the pendulum swings back.
>>715533405 (OP)Smaller devs should just stop selling to the EU. It's always their silly regulations that cause problems. It was their laws that gave the Xbox 360 its infamous Red Ring of Death, not North America, not Japan, always the EU.
>>715533405 (OP)>EA a-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCKKKDon't care. Fucking kill yourself you fucking eceleb tranny
>>715547039Oh fuck. Seems like we need to reverse all government progress.
Markets were more free under monarchies. In fact, monarchies weren't really states per se, and becoming a monarch is the ultimate expression of the free market. If the free market doesn't allow me to murder anyone who doesn't buy from the crown's video game monopoly, it's pure communism.
Companies should be allowed to field private tax collector armies that tax you if you don't buy their games. Get the government out of private tax collection.
>>715546959the bald freak said it's about multiplayer games in general.
>>715547224>muh burger politicsI don't care.
>>715547271Fuck off, MSPaint faggot. I won't stop supporting consumer protections just because you smudged red paint over peoples' faces.
>>715535135What you call god is not god, just look at all fucked up shit he allows demons to commit.
He is either not loving and merciful or too powerless to stop all this shit
>>715545123Ok, lets abolish intellectual property then. I'm sure you agree on principle.
>>715547067Most fan run servers dont have to be gdpr compliant because they typically dont request personal information. Even if it did, its not that hard to do. Servers aren't that expensive nor is it hard to be gdpr compliant. Why are you intentionally being retarded?
>>715547297you have no clue about that
you repeat what commies told you
>>715547324No he didn't. He carefully explained it's about making your games unplayable post-launch. If an indie dev feels the need to keep serverside code that will stop the game from working, any time, ever, fuck that indie dev. They are aiming to fuck your anus.
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>>715546214Point out that you worship the antichrist isn't a guilt trip.
>>715547423wtf u mean they dont request personal information have u never played one before
>>715547259>Smaller devs should just stop selling to the EU.Why? Smaller devs don't make GaaS in the first place. All great smaller devs games are DRM free on GOG.
>>715547234Reminder that the jews created a hedgefund to nominate a candidate to run against a literal who because socialism bad.
>>715547234>Admitting to be a commie AND playing victim while you held power for 6 years up until recently.No shit you guys keep losing
>>715533405 (OP)Why are game devs so dumb? Just add a disclaimer that the game might change overtime and right before end of service change it to Pong.
>>715547351Too bad your consumer protections involve these goddamn hairy manwhores. Fuck off, eceleb cocksucker
>the same corpotranny
>in all threads
no matter how much you seethe the initiative is successfull, you fucking faggot
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For those that still cannot understand, please watch this SKG as a banana analogy video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDMOAlWLfc
>>715543213Including official narrative.
>>715547342Then why bother replying?
>>715547489>multiplayer games are still playable after shut downbrainlet
>>715547414Yes, I do. Now what, fag?
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>>715547194I am forced to assume you are either functionally illiterate and triggered by my accusation against your false cheeto god, a very unrefined bot, or got pissed because you seem to believe the "he gets us" campaign is anything but satanic faggotry.
Hopefully just a bot, since thats the only one of those options not currently headed for hellfire for protty heresy.
>>715547646Those are a lot of big words just to say that you are angry at me.
>>715547062so I was right you don't know
>>715547554>5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were buildingThis one also always stood out to me
>>715547548I admitted to nothing. I don't like communism. I just think it's ironic, but also not my problem, and I hope it hurts a lot of people who deserve it. Maybe the communists will learn how shit their dreamt up fix for government is in the process.
>while you held power for 6 yearsHuh? Who do you think I am exactly?
>>715547628So I can complain about the kikes.
>>715547728Only in your delusional world
>>715547573Thank you Putin.
>>7155473981 is burnt
3 with butter and marmite
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I also dont know what this stop killing games shit is but both the guys leading each side look like fags.
>>715547660Well these commie lefties ever realize that giving the government more power is a bad thing or at the very least stop bitching when the government abuses said power when its not their side doing so?
>>715547784Save me from this hell please
>>715547498Yes. I played shadowbane emulator for years. Gdpr defines personal information as birth name, credit card information, address, license plate number, phone number, any information that ties you to a person behind an IP address. This does not include your email address, your pisschord id, or your linkedin because those sites are responsible for holding that information & being gdpr complaint. I'm sorry you're a massive retard though.
>>715547795>I don't like communism but I support it!You really are like a soviet lmao.
>>715547558You're a fucking schizo. Do you cease to support anything just because someone involved has a Youtube channel? That's vindictive and really retarded and all over what? An allergy for someone having a publicly visible face?
>>715547718>y-youre angry!I'm disappointed
>>715547629I just finished explaining to you that this isn't about "multiplayer games" you infant brain.
>>715546723I love Christ, but those animals at the top and in the swamp are trying to destroy it with their current politics. Real anti-christ shit.
>>715547931>I'm disappointedand yet you keep trying to get the last word in. I'm going to be the bigger man and hang up first. You really should learn to stop giving others power over you.
>>715547838Kek. This is the most authoritarian government the US has ever had. How about you pay attention to what the do instead of the stupid fucking buzzwords? I bet you think they're fiscal conservatives too.
>>715536090>>715538653So Gabe Newell and Tod Howard invented microtransactions, always online, rent, not own bullshit?
>>715547528P.S. wait i forget that the people against SKG don't buy or play videogames. Also imagine all USA videogame publishers leaving the EU market and letting EU videogame developers dominate it instead. LOL! So many EU videogames alreayd comply with SKG since a lot of EU games are already on GOG. Look at this list and count the numbers of games that will be affected.
>>715547913I don't support it. I don't even have a vote in it, I don't live in New York. But that won't stop me from kicking back and watching the fires from a safe distance.
>>715543096They're not an employee, but that letter from a shareholder to Nintendo after a meeting about the very product making them money exemplifies it perfectly.
They assume they're right all the more because they're completely ignorant about the matter, and get confused and angry whenever anyone who isn't says anything.
>>715548028>gnostic satanic nonsensecool.
>>715548038>But drummmff!!!!Go ahead and continue gaslighting yourself so you can play Don Quixote while being a puppet to higher forces.
You lost.
>>715547893>our own fortnite servers don't need 2FA>wtf accounts were hacked>wtf EUssr sues us for product liability
>>715548014You're a fucking embarrassment. Are you unironically 10 years old?
>>715548073I was about to say that Mordhau would need some changes but i checked and you can already host private servers with it. I guess the nu-Hitman games would have to change and cut their always online DRM. Everything else complies with SKG since its all on GOG already.
>>715548004>it's not about multiplayerok, so a corpo can create a 90% multiplayer game and add a single player training level and 90% can be shut down and it's okay then
>>715548073idk why people think this will only make american devs leave the market
eu regulation affects european companies too, so it'll hurt them just as bad
>>715548073>oh wow>commie eu will be dominated by dei walking simulators
>>715548369OR they could just turn over the master server hosting files, and do even less work.
do video games go to heaven?
>>715548446European ingenuity perseveres
>>715548462This what they probably want seeing as everyone who supports this shit is a lefty.
>>715547554>>715547762You have to use discernment. The prehistoric parts of the Old Testament are mythology and metaphors. Only American Evangelicals think that all of the Bible is literal truth. No, Noah's Ark wasn't literally real, morons.
>>715548436>no, that's not okay to shut down multiplayer>yes, it's fine to shut down multiplayerschizo
>>715548465okay, server was 500.000
pay up
>>715548038Let it cope. Or actually don't because it'll keep repeating "commies, tds" despite the shitshow it's currently in now.
>>715548287Why would your own fortnite server need to house information that would get you sued unless you were acting with malicious intent to sell or mine that information in the first place?
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>>715548536>that wasn't the real[tm] g*d>half of ,my bible is satanic
>>715548506Depends on the game.
>>715537939>I for one welcome it, especially if EA and Ubishit piss of their existing customers even more.Same.
Actually - if Ubisoft keeps it up for much longer, its CEO is going to have to get used to the idea of no longer owning a company...
>>715548547You're talking to multiple people, anti-schizo
>>715548564You guys in fact are communists with TDS. You lost. But that isn't what bugs me. What bugs me is that you are openly trying to give the government more power while playing mental gymnastics about how you are totally not giving the government you hate more power.
>>715548369thats actually been in practice already, where publishers add a 4 hour campaign to a game and call it even
>>715548596>my fortnite server doesn't need accounts>everyone can just join and cheat
>>715543784>anybody who isnโt faggy corpobootlicker is commieEat shit and neck yourself, faggot.
>>715548547>okay, server was 500.000>pay upYou don't even understand what this is all about. Nobody said they had to buy the dev's master server. Fans can host from any place they want.
I hope you are just having a laugh and aren't really this stupid.
>>715538653This is the same people that removed dust2 from casual queue because most of the players preferred it just to accomodate the minority that wants to play in random maps and try to alleviate losing new players. GAAS features are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS for the benefit of the company, never for the player. So saying "look guys making a game is so complicated!" It's busllshit because what's really complicated for them is having a stranglehold on their playerbase
>>715548446>it'll hurt them just as badHow is this going to hurt them when their games are DRM free on GOG you colossas faggot? Do you even understand what DRM free on GOG means? Those games have offline installers and can run withou the need for an internet connection past the initial download.
>>715548462>list is full of GOTY games>reee they are le walking simulators goy
>>715548691I'll just kick the cheaters
>>715548691>hey epic we dont want the source>just the binary5 seconds later
>make us a custom server with all of this changed
>>715548673You are mistaken
people don't hate the goverment, people hate the corruption and abuse that are within
You are scared because this initiative will have a precedent that will make people realize they have more power than they thought
>>715548626The genocidal shit is just Jewish scribes making shit up to sound impressive, and they wrote it like 400 years after the fact.
>>715544637>corporations are people now>you must care about corpos becauseโฆuhhhโฆ you just must fucking okay!
>>715548734>i can use my potato to host fortnite na east>>715548740>GAAS features are ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS for the benefit of the company, never for the playerokay, tell me how free battle passes and cosmetics are for benefit of the company
>>715548734they could also just keep licensing their server tech like they do, like they do
and they can say "ok goy here's the server binary but u gotta pay whoever we bought it from a monthly license and that'll be 25000 dollars"
>>715548751wtf r u even talking about, gog isn't even on the table here, it's not even part of the discussion
>>715548626Some of the bible is retelling a story. It isn't all explicitly instructions on how to conduct yourself.
>>715548848Don't look up when the new testament was written.
>>715533712>shitty gotcha slop games are shutting downand nothing of value was lost
>>715548848>>715548919>that doesn't count either>that mutilating your child was a joke by my g-d
>>715541931titanfall situation is worse. they just gave up on it cause they couldnt stop server attacks.
>>715533405 (OP)Someone explain me what this has to do with my religion?
>>715548691Daam, it's so easy to spot a zoomer in those threads it's unreal. Zoom zoom, back in the day when there were still dedicated servers and LAN play we had a thing called an admin in each server.
>>715540871>why would people go to new thing when old thing is good, if not better?In no moment does the though of making better games than their predecesors instead of killing the old ones so the new is better by default?
>>715548673Why did you reply to me with useless drivel about gymnastics and government when all I've commented about was your DEI-like behavior.
>>715548809Do you even read what you just typed?
>The government is good, its just the people who run the government are evil and corrupt>That's why I am going to throw a fit and get angry when that power is abused even though I just gave them said power
>>715548938>LE MADE UP JESUSWe have plenty of extra biblical contemporary sources confirming that everybody in the New Testament actually lived, Jesus, Pilate, Kaiaphas, Herod, the lot. And that Jesus was crucified and that his disciples 3 days later claimed that He was resurrected.
>>715549036ya a lot of the big servers had dedicated mod teams that just sat in server all day and u could even report cheaters, and this was for like a single cod 4 server
>>715549036>fortnite is just like my counter-slop
>>715548901How is it not a part of the discussion when all games on GOG already comply with SKG? GOG is pretty much the SKG model people should strive for.
>no always online DRM>you can keep the games you paid for forever and play themHow is GOG not on the table?
>>715545476Let me guess, you donโt consider copyright law communism even when its literally is?
>>715548895>i can use my potato to host fortnite na eastNice strawman. Why would the devs care if a single fan can host the game at its peak? That's not what anyone is asking. If someone wants to pay money required to do that, LET THEM. They'll at least have that ability if they choose.
>>715548901>they could also just keep licensing their server tech like they doThat's not what SKG is asking. The devs don't have the right to ask fans for 25K or else the files get buried. That's explicitly not meeting the terms, because you've presented a scenario where the game is still getting killed, which should not be allowed.
>>715549158>when all I've commented about was your DEI-like behaviorYou really are just repeating insults you hear but don't understand why it only affects you.
>>715548978>an anon made some bad arguments HAHA TAKE THIS CHRISTIANS
>>715549170Holy moly, you're sensitive
>>715549217yeah thats what im saying, gog is already skg compliant and every single game on it is skg compliant so why the fuck are you talking about it
>>715544129If you sell garbage just to scam people you should be put in jail.
>>715548978Thanks for bringing up circumcision so I know I can safely ignore all your schizo posts from here on out.
>>715545476Workist cattle are not people nor are innocent.
>>715542006Any game should follow "Destinyยดs child" example.
>>715548895>free battle passesI'm pretty sure you can figure out how the free battle passes that make sure you look at all the rewards you are missing out not buying the premium BP are preying on players, anon.
>>715549217they dont keep servers up forever
>>715549298>no argumentRepent and accept Christ
>>715549308I am giving it as an example dumbass.
>>715549398an example of WHAT
>>715542258Even if there were only 2 people willing to play it, they should be able to do it, hosting the matchets or whatever.
>>715533405 (OP)this shit is so easy to fix, just give all games with a campaign an offline mode just like older games
and liberate multiplayer so people could host their own private servers
Also, allow players to download their data so they don't miss their collectables
>>715549229>hurr its fine when classic battle royale game is only 5 people
>>715549379I haven't made a single argument for or against Christianity. You're fighting ghosts.
>>715549431the worst part is anthem was a cool idea and i might have tried it if it had content
but instead of making content they shut it down
>>715549201with a dedicated server browser it could be
>>715549368>buying battle passit's literally free on fortnite
>>715549319>fucking up my children is great>signed, the christcuck
>>715547410Giga-brainlet take. If you water too close to a tree or plant it where there is no wind the roots will not spread out or go deep. Then a drought will kill it or a unusual force will knock it down.
>tldr hardship is necessary for growth.>also think you have figured out GOD is gay
>>715547410I don't believe in the jew god that christcucks and Muslims love, but I do believe that if there were a higher power he'd want us to clean up our own house.
>>715549449YES. THAT IS FINE.
Having the ABILITY TO HOST THE GAME PAST ITS DEATH is the goal. You're throwing up goalposts that DO NOT MATTER. Why do you care if it's 5 people or 50 people or 500 people? I WANT THAT ABILITY.
>Leftists all side with the corporations, nepobabies and blatant jeet shilling
>Because they virtue signal leftist politics
Leftists don't actually believe in anything do they? They just want to be on the "winning side" there is nothing else to consider
Suddenly consumer rights are le heckin chuds because it has "gamergate vibes"
>>715546060The way corpos act is pretty mammonian.
>>715549487Fuck off, retard.
>>715549518>100 players is the same as 5>just pay for the servers!!so fortnite will go down, but then commies will pay thousands for servers
lol
>>715548691You dont need gdpr compliant data to ban cheaters you absolute fucking moron
Notice how quickly the idiots who supported SKG starting to throw insults around and ousted themselves as lefties the moment you pointed out that "Yes, you are giving the government you don't trust more power over you" because they knew deep down its a contradiction, just what communism is.
>>715549369They don't have to. All the games on GOG have working singleplayer or LAN or dedicated server capabilities. I bought WBC III ages ago on GOG and i can still play it in singleplayer and in multiplayer. I have my offline installed on an external drive and the smaller games on DVDs or flash drives.
>>715549263You took that as an insult? It's a fact.
>>715549621Kek. Typical golem pil pul
>>715549621I just told you to not look up when the new testament was written, and now you're sperging out.
>>715549579The left only cares about optics. But I'm seeing a lot of people trying to goad right wingers into hating this movement because MUH COMMUNISM
>>715549634>but then commies will pay thousands for serversi don't think you know what's an actual commie's like
in any case you're fucking retarded regardless
>>715533405 (OP)Cool
I still fail to see any reason to support this movement.
>>715546515>JUST don't buy it.But retarded cattle will.
>It's that simple.No, faggot.
>>715549550no, its not.
that wont be fortnite.
>5 players on juge mapretarded
>>715549637>ban their ipshttps://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/
IP address, this is also personal data
>>715533512i just hate how the modern era will say 1 thing is actually 20 different intricate interwoven totally different not related things that all have to be there for the 1 thing to work
like with the very first examples do you NEED to differentiate and say Refund Handling APIs? why not just say a working fucking marketplace where working refunds are to be expected?
not hating on the webm just modern tech philosophy in general
>>715549817I have 99 friends, I'll be fine
>>715533712>>715535024>ubishit and EA>>>>>gameshonestly I hope it gets blizzard and all the other dogshit companies that should've went bankrupt years ago and kills their slops too
>>715546720Your beloved corporations are type of commie, retard.
>>715549716You've already been told to fuck off, retard.
>>715549712Make teshuvah.
>>715549579It's the same shit that happened during the French revolution. Rich people tricked poor retards to kill other rich people so the rich people still left alive can buy up everything for themselves and get into better government positions. This has happened with every communist revolution. And it will keep repeating itself.
>>715549802>but retards willirrelevant for me
>retards got mentally ill of usirrelevant for me
>>715549743>But I'm seeing a lot of people trying to goad right wingers into hating this movement because MUH COMMUNISMYeah but they've got Trump and friends denying that Epstein even had a list, as if we don't all know they're lying to protect israelis and aipac
>>715541749weird to have nuclear physicists designing things for cavemen these days
>>715549906>But trump!You lost.
>>715549817>no, its not.>that wont be fortnite.You know what's infinitely worse than a 5 person server? No servers. Ever again. You and your friends can never play it and this is OK with you because you held up
>LOL YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN WITH 5 PEOPLE!You've never had a friend in your life, have you? 5 is more than enough for a good time.
>>715549801Then you are fucking retarded, sorry to inform you.
>>715549894I thought Christianity was about forgiveness and understanding? You seem like a bad Christian.
>>715550045Christianity isn't about allowing bad faith actors to waste your time. I've already told you to go repent and accept Christ.
>>715549902how the FUCK do you even make these gymnastics for something as simple to make community hosting legal for online games?
why is this so hard to understand?
>>715549802>But retarded cattle will.So?
>>715549979Preach brother! Epstein who? That's old news, we don't care about organized pedophilia anymore.
>>715549906>the cia is jooooooonice one
sbbm
md5: 8d1b773acd803da94278fd4791c1cded
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>>715533512Wait, SBBM anons were right all along? The game is basically taking our attention/time as hostages.
WTF
>>715540886>asks games made around player customization and skins to get rid of those skinsIs it really impossible for corpos to wrap their heads around customizations, skins and unlocks being tied to something other than mtx? Like this is not a new concept my man
>>715550139Epstein has nothing to do with pedophilia, he was pimping out willing 17 year olds.
>>715549906>talking shit about trumpYou're going to get fucked just like trump did when he fucked all those irl kids.
>>715550098It's pretty bad faith of you to assume I'm a bad faith actor.
Letยดs supose this gives something good, like refunds... Could this lead to, if the "when you buy a game, you own it" To force companies into not being able to revoke the ownership of the game? Or avoiding to access to it? I mean, now with the switch 2 bullshit that are the "key-cards", if you get banned, you canยดt access to those games anymore even if you bought them, right?
>>715549817You dont need their IP address to ban them either you retarded mongoloid and even then with the smallest amount of research you can in fact ban ips without following gdpr with justification or by creating a hash key for the ip aka making it encrypted which is in compliance with gdpr. You have once again shown you are an incompetent retard. Good job!
>>715550139You are so angry its funny. The best part is Trump got people talking about Epstain again and you fell for his tricks again.
>>715533405 (OP)WE WON.
Remember, when it was scientifically demenstrated that cigarettes were killing us, the most important tobacco corpos reunited to use social engineering: because they couldn't deny the scientifical data, they tried to instill doubt, by saying that the link between smoking and cancer still wasn't fully demonstrated.
Can you see it? Look at all those niggers reunited under Video Games Europe. They are using the same social engineering to spread several lies and misconceptions.
>>715550263>just ban them>without account or ip
>>715550219Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for apple pie.
>>715550113>how the FUCK do you even make these gymnastics for something as simple to make people have food and money again>why is this so hard to understand? Now get into the coal mines comrade!
>>715550273Ye, he's pretty smart. Get people to talk about Epstein so that he can pass Israeli funding unopposed.
>>715550187>has nothing to do with pedophiliaDo magatards really??
>>715540886bootsucking faggot scumbag
>>715550306Shitty Ubisoft games that are online only are literally killing people slowly? Actually wait, I can see that happening.
>>715546060Christchads won
>>715550349See what I mean?
>>715550349You take about five dozen eggs, start putting them in a bowl, mix the FUCK out of them, and what do you get?
>>715550398>SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS 11 MONTHS AND 30 DAYS OLD
>>715550397>But what about the jews?!You are completely ass blasted. I hope you enjoy 3 more years of losing!
>>715547646Catholic church is literally first globohomo and church of antichrist and satan.
For starters you donโt even have proper commandments and then you have shit like rev.18:16, lying satanic faggot.
>>715533405 (OP)>EA and Ubishit are mass shutting down gamesHOLY FUCKING BASED
TOTAL GAYMES DEATH
Whatever law gets made needs to be retroactive. These pieces of shit are still going to make money selling pieces of plastic if it isn't.
I know someone who bought Anthem cheap at a music store on a whim, not knowing how the game is structured because nothing on the box has a warning.
When he found out the game will be completely non-functional within a year, the first words out his mouth were "what the fuck how is that legal?"
I hate the US judicial system more than the KKK hates blacks. This whole country is being fucked to death by CEOs top to bottom and everyone with the power to stop it is joining them.
Money means nothing if your family is being actively hunted for termination by furious revolutionaries. It's completely insane for them to be seemingly trying to make it happen.
>>715550345>>715550354>He's really this retardedI feel bad for you, genuinely
>>715550532Brother, I don't care. I'm not even American, but it's funny that you can't stop seething.
>>715547718>u madLow iq take.
>>715550547>calling God's Church satanic
>>715550345>without an accountAn account doesnt have to host gdpr related information. Most servers that do have accounts will have vetting processes, if the server has a website, the website can be in gdpr compliance for very cheap so there's not a single argument you can make against it that cant be dismantled. Here's your final (you) retard. Bask in it, rake in the fact that you're such an incompetent, disingenuous, incapable of learning or making friends retard. Continue going through life wondering why you will never have anything or anyone around you.
it's in the middle of 2025 and there's retards that still unironically give shitposters the time of the day
never change /v/
>>715550263OK smartypants, I'm a supremely retarded mongoloid that doesn't know how to research. Please explain to me how one can blacklist someone's IP without accessing said IP.
>>715550638>Uh actually I don't care!Keep digging that hole deeper. No wonder you lefties are mentally ill, building your entire life around a lie then pretending to not care when it topples down.
>>715549170No point. He's confusing when the NT was compiled and not when it was accounted.
He's also a gnostic heretic who seethes when you dont worship trump:
>>715547194
>>715550510Wait the list of victim(s) is out?
>>715549549>i believe>i donโt believeNo one cares, no one asked, not your personal blog.
>>715550750Isn't that what's happening with the right? You can't handle the fact that Trump is betraying you so you cope and seethe?
>>715533512It shouldn't be retroactive for all games but it should be retroactive for any previously released game that is still being supported when the law is enacted
>>715550745Its literally in the post you replied to retard. Jesus fucking christ skg threads really pull the most illiterate retards on /v/ huh
>>715548014>wwe tranny with wwecom tablet woke up Lol, kys but good morning ma'am do the redeem as always
>>715550397Have you start to notice that they're now defending globalization, jews, and sex trafficking? Anyways we should be able to create our own servers for outdated games.
>>715549905>irrelevant for meirrelevant for me
>irrelevant for meirrelevant for me
Moving on.
>>715549541>>tldr hardship is necessary for growth.No it isnโt.
>>715533712exactly, shit's fucking hilarious, and it was so predictable too, thank god for thor making it all happen, enjoy your no games, yuroshits HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>715550972We'll survive without the goyslop
>>715550972It's funny seeing you talking with yourself
>>715535640tiny ferret dick is how you activate additional puberties though
kill pedophiles
kill pedophile enablers
kill pedophile defenders
>>715547838>pro corpo faggot complains about commiesPot calling kettle nigger.
>>715535024Killing scams that require Always-Online means it's doing exactly as intended.
Always-Online scams are not games. They are scams. It is sold as a product yet treated as a service/platform for service, which is already illegal.
This initiative will crucify these motherfuckers in court if they try to keep these scams running so they are shutting them down now because bad will from the customer is insignificant compared to bad will from a court of law.
Make no mistake. Ending these scams was always the top priority of most people within the movement. "preserving art" or whatever gay shit Ross says is second place to STOPPING these companies from carrying out routine scams.
>>715551145>killing all leftists and atheistsWHAT WOULD JESUS SAY
>>715550510>SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS 11 MONTHS AND 30 DAYS OLD>17 years old is pedophiliafound the roastie
>>715551208This is true, Ross was just PR front.
>>715549651so we should get rid of all regulations and let companies build bridges and houses that wont last 5 years?
>>715551241no one going to save you Drumf
get ready
This is the weakest corpo bait yet. Guess I can't blame you guys for half-assing it to get your paycheck though.
>>715551257Arguing about what is and isn't pedophilia is something pedophiles do.
>>715533679>Sky daddy is not realAm I having a stroke? Where the fuck is that coming from
>>715551471Liking women is pedophilia. Don't argue, that's what pedophiles do. :)
>>715546905>>715549604I dont think Jesus would care about something so insignificant as a video game.
Render unto ceasar, Ceaser in america is the corporation, Further, everything you have is given by grace of God, so by your same logic you should rebel against him if he gives it with strings attached.
Is it morally right what they are doing? Absolutely not, and it is certainly going to be evidence against them in their judgement, but you cant pretend like "yo Jesus is totally with me on this" every time you need an argument for secular matters.
Christ did not drive out the money changers for doing commerce, he did it because they were using the temple to do it, how is this argument different? How can you use Christ to justify a transaction without being the very money changers he whipped?
I dont give two, three, five shits if SKG wins or loses, just dont friggin act like Jesus is here to back you up on it like some political token.
>>715551471>Judges are pedophilesOk roastie
>>715551241Jesus would say, "I'm crying because instead of helping those in need of salvation, the most important choice a person can make, you chose to be dicks and celebrated someone going to hell."
>>715549905Who asked you and since when this is your personal blog?
>>715550487https://youtu.be/L9pT6ytyLLs?si=CMiag3hCL0o8reeq&t=13
>>715551606>>715551616You're so defensive, haha
pedophiles are getting the bullet
get ready
>>715551612>bootlicking satanic corpos this hardYour life and existence is insignificant.
>>715551612I should point out that saying "with strings attached" is incorrect, You have certain duties in the machination of history and you are given what you need to complete your task, sometimes more, but never less. "strings attached" is a poor choice of words. What I mean by that is like the story of Job.
>>715551037oh the hubris, you sweet summer child
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>715551712You don't understand how demonizing the mere questioning of definitions is giving those who would oppress you tools to label you whatever they want so they can do whatever they wish to you, haha
>>715551793>using the word satanic>calling a life insignificantNice try, heretic, I know what master you serve.
>>715551145>killing all shabbos golems and semitesbased
>>715551712Ok, it was fun or a little, have the last one
>>715551857>you sweet summer childleddit is back the way you came.
>>715533405 (OP)thank you for this christians
that is pretty cool of you
>>715552031nah newnigger, it's back the way YOU waddled your fat ass in here from, faggot
>>715551945I understand labeling theory, that's exactly why I'm labeling you a pedophile.
>>715551951they are coming for you drumf
get ready
>>715551948>hereticPharisee word.
> I know what master you serve.You are projecting, pharisee.
>>715552119You seem perturbed, perhaps a longing for upcummies?
>>715551612>just dont friggin act like Jesus is here to back you up on it like some political token.Now if only repubs can get this through their skull.
>>715550713>HELL>HELL>HELL>but no hell for the p*dos, that r*pe children, those are fine>and the genital mutilation is also fine, fuck children
>>715550727>it's like a website brah>just ban a website user brah>without the IP(commie EU): but you are allowed to block the digital id
>>715552368Your effort to exonerate yourself was so poorly performed that you've only cemented a clear an undeniable service to the anti-christ.
You dont have much time, but if you do cast aside your heretical nonsense and hide within the wounds of Christ I'm certain he will permit you those extra precious few moments for your conversion.
God is not for you to command, prod, learn this well.
>>715550713>>calling satan's Church God's Church Enjoy hell, faggot.
>>715551241>kill kill kill>my g-d is allowed to do so>you ain't>kill for g-d naow>g-d demands dead animals and dead children???
>>715550884After the law passes, anyone who has proof of ownership of a game should demand the law applies to that game and force the company to make it playable.
>>715552627>wrongthink this wrongthink thatYou donโt have spirit of christ, pharisee
>>715552723>pls help our communist objectivefuck off
>>715552627The kingdom of god is not of this world and church is worldly
>>715552487He said God's church, as in the Catholic church, Rape is mortal sin, Abusing minors is rape, Murder is mortal sin, and genital mutilation is murder.
American protestants invented non-jewish circumcision.
>>715552787>communism is when you own what you paid for
>>715552787>bootlicking corpos this hardFollow your own advice, faggot
>>715552787How is that communist? It's capitalist through and through. You paid for product, you get product.
>>715552878>God's church>Catholic churchPick one or enjoy hell, larper.
Well there's something I did learn from this thread. There is no hate like christian love.
>>715552878Your queen of heaven is pagan ishtar, reprobate
>>715553006God is smarter than you
>>715550028Oh no, I'm not falling for the peer pressure, surely calling me a retard will change my opinion!
It's a movement that does absolutely fucking nothing for me. Even if it passes it'll do, what, start a conversation? About games I don't buy and see no reason to care about? Whoa.
>>715552770Whats the point in pretending to be a zealot when the best you can muster is "I worship God in my own way" and amateur guitar while singing about "buddy jesus"?
>>715552851No prod can ever explain why heaven is a free ticket to anyone who says "Lord, Lord" (literally the opposite of scripture) but specifically orthodox christians are not permitted entry.
>>715552878And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
>>715553084Accept Mary as your personal Mother and intercessor.
>>715553125I am orthodox.
>>715533405 (OP)Based. KILL all games.
>>715553260>I watch jay dyer, im orthobroGetting real tired of you e-trads.
>>715553256> Accept ishtar as your personal Mother and intercessor.Absolutely no and never ever.
May Allah bring you all peace
>>715553334> e-trad larper getting real tired of e-trad larpersMy sides
>>715553669Christ did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
>>715553952And a list, but the current powers wants you to ignore that.
>derailing skg threads with religion
didn't see that one coming