The great debate

>>715535538 (OP)
A bunch of those aren't even cannon.

>>715535714
Nobody cares about canon anymore desu, it only mattered when George owned Star Wars

>>715535951
>canon only mattered when Lucas owned it
>all these sabers are non-canon colours from when Lucas owned it
Lucas' canon has never mattered, especially not after the Prequels

>>715535538 (OP)
Single green as always

>>715536430
The prequels are true Star Wars, and the only reason why people cared about Star Wars

>>715535538 (OP)
For me it's purple.

being a sigma lone wolf myself I prefer the golden saber, the superior choice for superior men

>>715535538 (OP)
>three yellow colours
why

>>715537156
>dark orange and light orange are yellow now

>>715537115
>the superior choice for superior men
You don't know how right you are

blue = jedi fightin enthusiast
green = jedi force nerd
yellow = jedi temple janny
purple = special snowflake donut steel

>>715537431
>nooo it's ACTUALLY DIFFERENT
lel

>>715535538 (OP)
Green because the GOAT uses green.

>>715538298
I know /v/ is fucking retarded, but this is a bit too far. Dial it back a touch to make it believable.

Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father’s exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems. Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars, and once in a while we’d even have the entire 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half. It was surreal. We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.

>>715538480
I will forever hate Disney and their character assassination.

>>715538789
It sucks but these retards >>715538714 are just as annoying.

>>715538789
I wish there was some sort of middle ground they could have found between making Luke a total failure and an unstoppable unlikable force God.

>>715538789
I hate George for selling out
he could've redeemed himself

>>715535714
Who cares. Im willing to humor Legends stuff and dont give a fuck about anything disney

>>715538789
this

The actual greatest debate

>>715540386
What's this?

>>715535538 (OP)
If I recall correctly there isn’t a single person in KOTOR 2 who uses that nice crisp dark blue, so I always use that to further stand out in the game, which is otherwise extremely bleak and in need of that color.

>>715540445
The biggest stretch in all the EU: The idea that Jedi have different lightsaber fighting forms

Vapaad for instance was the one Mace Windu used and it's supposed to be borderline Dark Side in how aggressive it is

>>715540386
>Not mastering the anti-ranged stance in a galaxy overrun with ranged weapons
Stance 1 and 3. All you need.

>>715535538 (OP)
Red and purple are the only cool ones.
>>715536430
Extended Universe mattered before Disney bought them, let's make the standards clear.

>>715540543
>the biggest stretch
People fight differently, anon.

>>715540846
> Siths have their own fighting style based on ruthless efficiency especially with the combined factor of their use of the force to harm their opponents where as Jedi have a fighting style based on reactive defense oriented fighting and techniques that support it without using the force to harm others directly.
Basically that's it, those are the only explained canon differences in Sith/Jedi fights.

>>715540386
Lightsaber high heels.

>>715540846
Not in the movies they didn't. Or videogames, actually. It's something that only exists on paper.

>>715540617
This, any Jedi that wants to survive longer than a few days has to pick either Soresu or Shien.
Makashi is too archaic and has been shown to job to Soresu or Shien constantly, Ataru turns you into a leapfrog on crack and is easily defeated by a single good hit, Niman is for wimps and Juyo risks turning you into a psycho.

>>715535538 (OP)
Silver, for me.

>>715541089
Counterpoint: lightsaber knees

>>715541184
Isn't it supposed to be white?

>>715541056
>>715541141
>t. didn’t actually watch the movies or play any Star Wars games

>>715541089
Still not as retarded as-
>>715541232
Fuck, beat me to it

>>715535538 (OP)
Viridian. Green is objectively the best because Luke has it, but I want to be a snowflake so that’s the compromise

>>715535538 (OP)
Green because it's my favourite colour.

>>715535538 (OP)
Blue. Knights are easily the most based Jedi. Consulars and Sentinels just can't compare.

>>715541294
I did though? Explain to me in which fight a Jedi fights aggressively without planning on outsmarting an aggressive Sith who's trying to enforce their will on the Jedi through forceful moves whereas a Jedi is moving gracefully in a defensive stance to showcase how heroic they are compared to the ruthless, savage Siths?

>>715541232
>>715541298
In context that was a lunatic larping as a local boogieman.
It got blown vastly out of proportion when disney was astroturfing their killing of the EU as a good thing.

>>715541738
REBELS WAS A MISTAKE

>>715541432
Jedi Shadows or whatever they were called are goated. Didn't you have an option to pick that subclass in KOTOR2?

>>715542087
I'll be honest I haven't actually played KOTOR 2 despite owning it for years

The first season of the Mandalorian is the only post-Disney acquisition thing I actually really liked but then they had to ruin it in the second season by making half the episodes obvious backdoor pilots for other shows they wanted to make.

>>715540386
Can we just get the same team who did Rise of the Ronin's combat onboard for a star wars game to improve upon Jedi Survivor's combat (and janky animations) already

>>715541432
>Knights
GUARDIANS YOU RETARD

>They're red because they're synthetic
>They're red because the Sith corrupt sweet innocent Crystal-chan into a degenerate lifestyle
Which one, /v/?

>>715542886
>They're red because the Sith corrupt sweet innocent Crystal-chan into a degenerate lifestyle
Well when you put it like that...

>>715541738
Go Go Gadget SabercoptAAAAAAHHHHH

>>715535951
Based pic

>>715540386
Ataru's cool as fuck.

Blue, red and green > piss yellow and purple > rest

>>715542886
I prefer the synthetic reasoning, mostly because I find the idea of Sith not finding natural crystals powerful enough to be completely in line with their philosophy.

>>715541232
He doesn't actually look like that.

>>715542886
They're red cause they're fucking red

>>715542886
I’m honestly fine with both

>>715543260
>XD

>>715542671
A Star Wars Nioh-like is my literal dream game

>>715541141
you've never played a star wars video game in your life, zoomer shit head

>>715542886
Synthetic was perfectly fine and didn't need some deep explanation. It was just, oh, they use Sith alchemy to make some crystals. Neat.
Bleeding is retarded and comes off like some feminist's fanfiction where she can pretend it's about having her period, thematically.

>>715540386
>can't beat the classics
Shii-Cho
>pure style points
Makashi
>aiiieeee noooo don't shoot me droid sama
Soresu
>flippy dippy bullshit
Ataru
>this is just Soresu again
Shien
>this is just Makashi again
Djem So
>I really wish I didn't have to lightsaber fight right now
Niman
>I AM ANGRY, ANGRY ABOUT SITH
Juyo

>>715542886
I always thought the sith using artificial (and more powerful depending on the source) crystals to juxtapose the natural crystals the jedi use was a cool idea.

The crystal bleeding thing is an okay concept I guess but it feels a bit out there and is emblematic of the nucanon push to make lightsaber crystals more important than they were in the lucas/EU era, which I was never a fan of

>>715542886
>there needs to be some mystical elements added back into the force to offset the damage done by midichlroians
>NO NOT LIKE THAT

>>715535538 (OP)
Amber/Orange > Purple = Red >>> Rest >>> Blue/Green

>>715544039
Sith alchemy is way cooler than mood ring lightsabers

>>715544039
Midichlorians was just a desperate attempt to turn SW into actual sci-fi

>>715535538 (OP)
Purple and Green.
I wish Swtor didnt lock you to saber types for classes otherwise id play that game. I wanna play as a infiltrator but using a staff is not for me. Im also not interested in pretending to be one while playing as a single bladed class.

Fuck Disney man, fucking ruined this god forsaken franchise along with all the licenses they give away to worthless developers.
Its funny that the only good lightsaber game to ever come out is from Lucas (Star wars Jedi Academy). Jedi survivor is so boring, tons and tons of blank content, you spend 50% of the game not fighting, who the fuck wants to play as a jedi and not actually cut people into pieces???

>>715544118
Yup, it's cringe.

>>715544101
The Acolyte fucked up Disneys own lore on the matter. It's a permanent corruption of a crystal done with intention in a Dark Side locus that the crystal actively resists and fights back against. It doesn't just happen because you're a bit evil.

>>715541294
The only ones that had different fighting styles were the ones that thought they were cool for dual wielding light sabers in retarded ways like two lightstabers together to make a polearm, or holding them behind your back and using them like sickles and all that.

>>715544187
Nope it was just a way to measure force sensitivity

Honestly I wish the lightsabers actually did work like mood rings. Anakin should have been red for the last parts of RotS.

>>715544315
Fag

>>715544278
Jedi Survivor did the same thing, so we're just back to canon levels and that's just what crystal bleeding is now

>>715544315
what color does ahsoka's lightsaber change to when she's on her period?

>>715544286
Jedi Academy had multiple different styles for single hilts, and KOTOR 2 had the Forms directly.

>>715539114
they just needed him to go through some philosophical turmoil. Presenting him with a paradox where he had to undermine jedi values for greater good. Thats all they had to do, instead they fumble it into a failed murder attempt on his nephew, which is way out of line for Luke especially since he doesn't seem to be shaken up yet before having this thought. Disney just didnt really give a shit about the franchise, its obvious they thought it would just print money no matter what they do. These retards significantly underestimated the largest fandom in the world and were forced to reframe the franchise failure being a coordinated attack by like 5 people.

>>715544294
No it was a way to establish Power Levels

>No way! This little boy has more numbers than grandmaster Yoda!!!!
So fucking what? His midichorian count didn't get him a place in the Jedi Order, Obi-Wan's begging did. It never comes up again because it's meaningless to the Force powers used on screen and the feats of the characters.

>>715544315
evil guy with blue saber is much cooler than what youre descrining

>>715535538 (OP)
dark blue is just iconic, the two most kino characters of all time, luke and anakin both use a single handed blue lightsaber. a blade from a more civilized and kino time

>>715535538 (OP)
Green
Dual sabers is Green/Blue or Purple/Red
Staff is orange or yellow.

>>715544620
>Luke
>dark blue

>>715535538 (OP)
The Star Wars franchise is starting to resemble Sonic at this point, the shit content is overpowering anything that was good at the start

>>715535538 (OP)
Really it's almost as bad as a black lightsaber in terms of "OC do not steal" vibes, but damn do I love the silver one.

>>715544620
>luke and anakin both use a single handed blue lightsaber
The irony is that it's a stopgap weapon until they get the colour that best reflects their personal growth: Luke into a new generation of Jedi Knight, Anakin into a violent mass murderer

Blue was the journey, Red/Green was the destination

>>715544278
Imagine you love a franchise so much you finally get your acting breakout, then learn english solely to audition, you get your role and it's in the Acolyte.

>I'm sure to win due to my superior lightsaber and forc-ACK!
Welcome to Nar Shadaa

>>715544754
Star wars can thankfully be played in a vacuum where stories can be injected 5000 years apart and the universe is relatively the same barring political climate.
The most obvious thing to do is go back in time to the hyperspace wars and try to do a series based on the Sith integrating themselves with Mandalore and essentially stealing their society. At least thats one of the last bastions of good star wars that hasnt been butt fucked into oblivion.

>>715544187
Not really. If they were desperate to do anything it was to show that Anakin was a very special snowflake in a way that could be measured. That’s it.

>>715535538 (OP)
>red
>green
>blue
real lightsabers
>everything else
mental illness

>>715544749
still looks closer to kotors dark blue than cyan blue in most lighting and scenes imo
>>715544863
well sort of, depends on perspective, imo both anakin and luke are more happy and at their prime when they have the blue blade rather than later when anakin turns into a amputee vader and loses his wife, or luke becomes a hermit jaded schizoid. Pretty much every blue single blade character is a gigachad, and it feels just right, the Jedi Knight in its purest and most heroic form

>>715544982
lol that strat reminds me of how they do Elder Scrolls games. I like the idea but man also fuck disney

>>715545095
not really, OT blue is very clearly closer to cyan than the blue of the PT/KOTOR

>>715535538 (OP)
1 purple and 1 red

>>715544982
Hyperspace wars would be kino if Disney was banned from interacting with the production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJWDcaeVIo

>>715544982
prequel of revan during his youth, looking at mandalorian sissies destroying republic worlds while republic soldiers get btfo and jedi just suck their own dicks and remove their ribs, then revan as a young student just decides to lead the republic himself and pulls up on mandalore's ship and kills him in solo combat after humiliating the mandalorians through dozen of skirmishes and large battles. would be kino. mandalorians need to get humbled anyway now that disney is glazing the shit out of them constantly

>>715544190
Thanks Doc.

>>715545168
>ow they do Elder Scrolls games
Every non-MMO Elder Scrolls game is set after the last one and references past events.

>>715545287
We already had a Kotor prequel set during the opening year of the Mandalorian Wars

>>715541738
>EU has silly concepts like light whips
>Disney makes light helicopters
>EU has Palpatine return in a story written before the prequels, eventually being beaten by Luke for good
>Disney has Palpatine return with literally no explanation, eventually being beaten by the worst mary sue put to the big screen
>EU has over the top characters like Starkiller
>Disney has Rey
>EU has original superweapon, do not steal, that blows up local solar systems
>Disney writes original superweapon do not steal that blows up multiple planets from outside their solar system, then adds in hyperspace ramming and death star laser star destroyers for good measure
It's honestly amazing how disney managed to take every single flaw of the EU and make it even worse.
Seriously, how the fuck did they pull it off?

>>715545287
I still don’t comprehend how the Jedi Council was so impossibly retarded during the Mando Wars. In no way did combatting the Mandos contradict their Code, in fact the Code encouraged it because Mandos were literally slaughtering innocents.
Even if they thought the Sith were behind it and would spring some trap on them, wouldn’t it be better to force the Sith to reveal their hand by swiftly routing the Mandos? There is no realistic explanation for waiting to see if the Mandos were just trolling or not.

PURE PAZAAK

>>715544889
Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Jung-Jae is the best part of the Acolyte, at least.

>>715544187
and now Disney shows say "actually, anyone can be a jedi, even people who was never force sensitive before"

>>715545668
bad writing that was borrowed from Count dookus plot. Basically this was dookus inner conflict re purposed as a broad jedi outlook. They just forgot that the core of the philosophy was aimed at the futility of sending jedi to die. Dooku wanted to remake the order because of counsels constant negligence to jedi.

>>715542886
Even disregarding the CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIN aspects of it, the crystal bleeding is even more stupid when you realise the implication it has on the sith in hiding.
For at least a thousand years, every generation of sith had to secretly murder jedi at least once to get their own saber, since mood ring sabers imply using another would be sub optimal to someone who desperately needs every advantage they can get.
Yeah you could easily get away with a few assassinations, but a thousand fucking years of literally nobody ever suspecting a thing is just too much.

Not to mention that a single report of a red saber would mean they're outed instantly, because now they specifically and maliciously have to make them red.

>>715545425
i want a vidya or a movie or atleast good show doebeit
>>715545668
moralfaggotry mostly
>erm ackshually we cant kill mandalorians who are invading and destroying our planets because we too did bad things that might've caused this due to socioeconomic factors, so we must meditate on the topic to decide if it's okay for jedi to involve ourselves and help protect innocent republic citizens, hmmm
>removes ribs
>sucks own dick while humming and meditating
its what happens when people get too philosophical and autistic during safe times

>>715545668
Because 30 years before the Jedi Order was decimated by the Sith War and they were leery of getting involved in another large scale war, especially when they had seen what happens when just a few Jedi fall to the Dark Side

>>715545637
What's funny is that even with all the flaws the EU was still fun most of the time.
>>715546049
I wonder how much Hamill really made off of these movies. Considering how much he seems to hate the sequels he still willingly acted in them.

>>715546049
No matter what Disney says, the continuity will forever be sith have to synthesize their crystals artificially, just like everything else they do, its always an imitation and corrupted version of the normal.

>>715545668
iirc they weren't necessarily opposed to intervening but they wanted to consider their options for longer, to a degree where they were just arguing forever about what to do while revan just went fuck this and did what needed to be done

it's been a while since I played the games tho so I might be full of shit

>>715545949
See I can appreciate the attempt to retcon the “you gotta be special to be Force Sensitive” thing but there’s a far better way to pull off the “hurr don’t worry kids anyone can be Force Sensitive” retcon and Disney isn’t capable of it.

>>715541170
>Niman is for wimps
Only if you train it for two weeks to pass the test, which is the same case for all other forms, except Niman still gets you to the point where you don't stab yourself. Mastered Niman fucks people up.

>>715546247
>he still willingly acted in them
Pretty sure his reasoning is that the fans wanted him back as Luke and he wasn't going to disappoint them even if he thought the script was dogshit

>>715544558
Anakin wasn't evil in ROTS just a but stupid and emotional, he fundamentally had his heart still in the right place tho.
If you wouldn't kill some younglings to save your empire and the woman you love then you're just not a romantic.

>>715545949
There have been some attempts at making this more digestible like in the extended lore "The Valley of the Jedi". Its a temple where someone can awaken their sensitive to the force, or shut it out. The reality is there are just some primordial races that are naturally attuned to it, but just like muscles you cant really get stronger without proper training and guidance. Every living creature is technically connected to the force.

Having every day people in a galaxy of trillions all learning to awaken their force sensitivity is a narrative disaster.

>>715546247
>EU was still fun most of the time.
The EU was great in the sense it was one giant sandpit. You had some people making great castles, some fucking about for the fun of it, a few drooling retards flailing around, and you could pick whichever you felt like engaging with
>he still willingly acted in them.
He was obliged to, since he signed on when Lucas still had control. Maybe he could have backed out before TFA, but they hid how much theyw ere going to assassinate his character

>>715535714
None of them are cannons, they're swords you dumbo

>>715542886
Synthetic is much more interesting. It speaks to the idea that the Sith seek mastery and control over their lives and aren't just evil for evil's sake. It also puts them on a spectrum with the Jedi, some of whom also used or created synthetic crystals for their lightsabers. It's not like the Sith are the Morgoth to the Jedi's Valar; it's that the Sith are a heresy to the Jedi. Same same but different.

>>715546568
>Kill the Jedi Order, I have vague promises of being able to save your wife
Understandable if not acceptable
>I don't know shit about how to save your wife, you still have time to back out of this arrangement and redeem yourself. No? Alright, cool, go kill some kids.
Just evil, beyond any justification

I never got how "mind tricks" were a jedi thing, forcing your will on someone that way seems like more of a dark side thing.
Then again the real answer is probably just that it was a cool wizard thing to do and they hadn't really thought the details of the power system through back then.

>>715545668
>>715546321
The thing about KOTOR1 is that it plays into the idea that the Council predicted correct.
The Republic would have had them by the balls, and some aid would have been enough.

Instead their worst fears come true when 2 randoms stumble on to the Star Forge and gets corrupted in the process, sparking a galactic counterwar.

>>715546979
Because intent matters.
Mind raping someone into being a slave is different to briefly distracting them and avoiding a needless fight.

>>715542886
Synthetic’s more in line with Lucas’ ideas about the Force so long as you also delete the idea that Jedi used synthetic crystals. Jedi use natural crystals grown by the Force in their Lightsabers and the Sith pervert and bypass the Force by creating Synthetics by themselves.
The whole thing about the Dark Side and the Sith is dominating or otherwise cutting out the middle man which is the Force.

>>715546813
By that point he had killed Windu. In his mind he was already fucked.

SPONGEBOB QUICKLY MRS. PUFF NEEDS A NEW FUR COAT
YOU'RE SPENDING ALL ME MONEY BOY

>>715546568
Well, fear is a strong motivator that can lead to dark side, really any sort of strong emotion can, so Anakin might've had good intentions in wanting to save his wife and children, but as he gave into taking the easy way out and gave into his fears and accepted them as reality/future he started losing himself to the dark side and schizoed out killing the younglings as well as in his schizo brain they were probably in the way of saving his wife and kids and hated him. He's a immature young guy with anger issues and frustrations from losing his mother which could've been avoided if his jedi mentors weren't retards, not getting promoted as a proper master despite being the most talented and capable jedi, and also having a chat with Yoda about his fears who doesn't help him at all beyond cryptic bullshit about how he shouldn't feel emotions. It's mostly a disconnect between old jedi who live in their bubbles, and someone like Anakin who lives a much different life serving with soldiers and clones, fighting in wars, fucking hot girls, and being a slave. He is a multi-faceted character and obviously had revenge take ahold of him as well as DS when he killed the sand people for killing his mom, then the Count Dooku kill, and the Mace Windu one, and he was becoming more desentisized and killing the younglings was obviously when he fully fell and there was no longer any hope for him to really return out of his delusions and fears, to the point of him choking his pregnant wife because he thinks she betrayed him with obi lol.

>>715546979
forced conflict resolution, the jedi is almost always right when they apply it. I cant find an instance where someone applies this ability on someone to hurt them or other innocent people. And besides only retards get effected by this. Its like telling a hick you like his favorite foot ball team and now he thinks your an alright bucko even though you hate football

>>715546985
Yeah but maybe the Star Forge crap would’ve been avoided if the Council had taken charge of their Jedi and properly crusaded against the Mandos in a war of defense.
Literally all the Council had to do was go “okay everyone let’s force these guys to surrender” and shit would’ve been relatively fine, Jedi shitted all over the Mandos of that era.

>>715545668
You have to remember that the Mandalorian Wars didn't occur in a vacuum. The Jedi had fought the Freedon Nadd Uprising and the Great Sith War and the Krath Crusades just 20 years prior. They saw hundreds of Jedi turn away from the Order and embrace the Dark Side, with many swayed away from Jedi principles that they saw as too static, retiring, and slothful. The Jedi Council's refusal to involve themselves in the Mandalorian Wars was the last gasp of a dying hierarchy trying to retrench and justify their indolence. They clung to the principles of the old Order that had been rejected by the "new" Sith to prove that theirs was the better way.

In some ways they were right; many of the Jedi who joined the Mandalorian Wars fell to the Dark Side. But they were still proved failures. With the extinction of the Jedi Council in KOTOR2, the old hierarchy was gone for good, and its interpretation of the Force and Jedi teachings was swept away entirely. What they had done during the Mandalorian Wars had only bought them a few extra years; they had already been fatally wounded as an ideology and a faith by the Great Sith War.

It's similar in many ways to what the boomercons are doing right now. 20 years of failure in Afghanistan were not enough; they need to justify it all by doing the same thing in Iran and Russia. That'll prove to everyone they were right and that all they needed to succeed was to go harder for longer. The Jedi Council had to be more strict, more passive, more hermetic. That's why Atris ultimately turned against them.

>>715546985
Revan and Malak, as well as most of the Jedi Crusaders, were already slipping down the slope towards the Dark Side before they found the Star Forge. So many Jedi and Navy troops turned against the Republic willingly because the brutality of the war had already worn them down.

>>715546979
Mind tricks are subtle. You redirect the target's attention on something else so you can get away with something. With Watto, Qui-Gon was just using his natural greed to get him to accept just payment. He didn't just force choke him until he accepted the credits.

>>715547420
The Revanchite Crusaders were fighting a defensive war at the start. But it's not like the Mandalorians would've been satisfied if they'd just been parried off to Hutt Space or something. They had already been launching Crusades against the Republic for 100 years before this, and joined the Jedi's greatest enemies, the Sith, at the climax of those crusades. The Republic was always going to have to go on the offensive at some point.

>>715547907
Obi-Wan's ruse was plausible, if not likely, and the Stormtrooper accepts on some level he could be wrong

Qui-Gon flat out tries to force Watto to take something he just said he's not going to. It's not even an attempt at negotiation or playing to his greed it's just
>will you take republic credits?
>no
>you WILL take republic credits
>fuck off Jedi

>>715548192
Qui-Gon isn't a typical goody goody Jedi though. He kinda doesn't give a fuck.

Why doesn't anyone else try to recruit force sensitive kids? Like the Hutts or whatever? They control a huge chunk of the galaxy. They wouldn't be able to teach them all the cool Jedi tricks or give them lightsabers obviously, but they could probably brute force train the precognition at least. Luke got that in like 2 minutes, and it seems to be something a lot of force sensitives can just intuitively do without training. Even just as dudes with blasters and jedi reflexes, a squad of these force sensitives would be a top tier kill squad. Finding them shouldn't be too difficult either since Midichlorians would have to be a very well documented phenomenon since they're in literally every living thing in the galaxy to some degree. The Jedi would bitch, but if this isn't happening in non-Republic space would they even have any authority to stop it? Qui-Gon seemed pretty concerned with following the rules in Hutt space instead of just gutting a slavemaster and rescuing his child slave.

>>715548458
It’s a secret club and if you’re not in it, there’s 0 chance of you finding out who is

>>715548458
>train a bunch of Not-Jedi
>now you have to be constantly paranoid everyone who comes near you is a Force wielding assassin from another cartel
>now you have to be constantly paranoid your own Not-Jedi are one bright idea from deciding they could rule your business better than you

Jedi are a known quantity. They operate by a code. They have a heirarchy that largely enforces discipline and adherence to the rules. You take that away and a Force User is one of the most dangerous things in the galaxy.

>>715549052
Good thing implanting people with bombs while they're still controllable children is a canon thing in Star Wars then.

>>715548349
That's Dooku's influence.

>>715549343
>teaching children how to use the one thing that could disable the way you control them

>>715549343
>doing all this nonsense for an operation that would be shutdown by a single Jedi and his snot-nosed Padawan in a day
This is why the Cartel and the Sith always fail.

>>715548458
Grievous once kidnapped a bunch of Jedi kids in the EU.
He planned on turning them all into Grievous Jr.s with Force powers.

>>715535538 (OP)
Green, the best option because is shows both strength and tranquility
second best is orange

>>715543884
What game has them that isn't the faggot retard piece of shit ps1 fighting game or a fucking gay board game or in person rpg?

>>715535538 (OP)
game?

>>715548458
I think what you're really thinking of is something like the Mecrosa Order which is the elite Force-sensitive assassin order of the Tapani Sector. Most of their lore is from the WOTC RPG.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mecrosa_Order

But there are also the Imperial Knights, Jenasaarai, Matukai, Horizon Guard, etc. which are militant force orders that are warriors first, priests second.

>>715535538 (OP)
I think lightsabers being made from rare expensive crystals and attuned with the force n shiet sucks. It's more fun if they're completely inexpensive and easy to manufacture, but considered useless because anybody who isn't trained in the force would self-dismember in minutes if not seconds before achieving anything.

>>715550639
Star wars in known for the combat styles. Its why Sith can lose to the jedi in combat... the fighting styles of the jedi are wide ranging and can be confusing for sith, even out right counter them.
Most games dont go full retard mode with the forms because the game depth would be asking for too much, so instead your given "styles" in broad strokes most of the time.

Examples of styles are everywhere in continuity. Its the main reason Obiwan shits on grevious and anakin, his specific form is considered to be the least aggressive form, but almost impenetrable by the end of the the third movie, there was no chance Anakin was ever going to win in a saber fight. Games generally just give you the broad strokes like I said. If you play Jedi acadamy theres around 4/5 light saber styles, and if you play the better version of the game (Movie Battles) you have access to all the light saber forms which drastically change how your character swings his blade

>>715551125
Then everyone would have one because a blade that cuts through anything would be insanely useful to any number of people

I'd just go blue like whatever, who cares

>>715535538 (OP)
What does each crystal taste like?

>>715550639
>>715551242

https://youtu.be/uGbIyFpV75s?si=omUDWyFEZvyHr4yd


https://community.moviebattles.org/threads/guide-saber-forms-in-mbii.2876/

>>715535714
bro, half the movies aren't canon lmao

>>715535951
Only K canon matters.
That's right, only Episode V is unambiguously canon somehow.

Only the 6 movies are canon.

What are the best SW games?

>>715551553
wtf is this? Downloading now

>>715551256
There are better tools for those people. If you can't also use it as a weapon or shield, it's just a bulky laser cutter.

Blue and Yellow, I always rock those on my kel'dor Jaden (his canon species btw)
I will never forgive Disney for any of the shit theyve done to stur wurz but especially not forever associating yellow lightsabers with r*y

>>715551979
Mount & Blade mod.

>>715551983
>bulky
Yoda's is tiny and still produces a fullsized blade. It's just a crystal and some circuitry in a tube suitable for the guy holding it.

>>715552127
But compared to Star Wars lascutters or a pocket explosive it's a lot less useful. And while it can cut through almost everything, it still takes time. Remember in Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon couldn't cut through the bridge doors in a reasonable amount of time.

Also remember that during the Galactic Civil War having a lightsaber was almost a death sentence.

>>715552232
But if we're talking about a world where there's nothing inherently special about the lightsaber and any idiot could have one in his toolbox or emergency kit then they never become associated with the Jedi Order and what they represent. They're just another tool and nobody cares if you have one because they're not important or unique.

I’m pretty sure that outside of the crystal Lightsabers are easy to build. The components are all easy to find. But the crystal isn’t.
Although I also believe I read that if you try to build a saber and you don’t have the instinctive precision of a Force user you’d probably blow it and yourself the fuck up.

>>715535951
George made the Clone Wars 3D-animated series too. That was pre-Disney. Disney just decided to keep it in the new canon.

The Disney movies all suck ass, but at least Rebels was good. I haven't kept up since the High Republic stuff started. I've liked most of the Disney era stuff except for the Rey movie trilogy. Those plots are ass and ruined the future of Star Wars.

>>715553629
lightsabers are also constantly oscillate in your hands. Its considered a dangerous an unpracticable tool unless you are force equipped.

>>715545284
>>715544982
The hyperspace war was indubitably a great setting but Im glad it's buried in non cannon so Disney cant deface it given how shit the franchise is now.

>>715553827
I prefer "lightsabers are near-impossible for non-Force users to build due to the precision needed to align the crystal" to "lightsabers flail around if you don't have the Force" for the explanation for why normies don't use lightsabers

>>715553963
its not a divided issue, both these are correct. If you some how build a stable blade, there's 0 chance you could swing it properly without feeling like your about to kill yourself

>>715535714
legends > disney ''canon''

>>715542886
I honestly think bleeding crystals is just way fucking cooler. Rule of cool.

Also the Darth Vader comic made me end up liking it lore-wise anyway.

>>715535538 (OP)
it's not a debate, it's four and eight

>>715535951
So we're pretending Clone Wars wasn't kino now?

>>715553802
>George made the Clone Wars 3D-animated series too.
And it was ass.
>That was pre-Disney.
Literally.

>>715542886
original was much better
>nah dude we just put our edge in our sabers and it turns red
sounds weak as fuck

everyone here sucks art these games except for me

>>715554346
>at

>>715544278
>It's a permanent corruption of a crystal done with intention in a Dark Side locus that the crystal actively resists and fights back against.
unless you're the super special do not copy deviantart OC Ahsoka(tm) by Filoni
Because she's just that special that she can unbleed crystals

I fucking hate that orange cunt so much

>>715535538 (OP)
In the Jedi Survivor games I liked the baby blue beams best because they illuminated dark rooms better.

>>715535538 (OP)
you certain powers of to weild certain kyber crystals

>>715544278
>the black bitch gets a little angry
>sabre turns red
>meanwhile Anakin slaughtered children and other jedi like butter, strangled his wife and tried to kill his best friend and brother
>still blue

>>715554612
>you need

>>715554250
>pretending

>>715554545
Luke does it in the comics, too. It's also an involved process that puts him at great risk.

>not a single disney character comes close to being as cool as a throwaway power fantasy dude from the early 2000s
How are they this incapable?

>>715535538 (OP)
I'd pick orange just because it's not yellow, but then there's orange and also orange? I guess I'll go for precision light white that stabs extra hard.

>>715554645
>Pic
AAAADMIN ABUUUUUSE

I like blue. I am based and redpilled.
If you dislike blue you must be cringe and trans, unlike me.

>>715554861
Starkiller worked because he was essentially a based retard being led by the nose for most of the game and he ultimately dies when the emperor stopped holding back. Combine that with the inherent silliness of the shit you could do and it creates a light hearted atmosphere where you're just having fun, rather than trying to one up the established characters and story.
Disney won't let a male protagonist be that strong off the bat, and any female protagonist they write won't have the caveats that make power fantasy characters fun.

>that one time years ago when For Honor on May 4th made all their weapons lightsabers
https://youtu.be/yxN-N7Fjbng?si=6VtSFVoPrDAYojLg
What a goddamn tease

>>715555489
GOD FUCKING DAMN DO I HATE UBISOFT
you just know these fucking french niggers patented this game play / camera mechanics so no one could ever make anything like it. Then they sit on it doing fucking nothing for a decade. Ubisoft staff needs to be liquidated NOW.

>>715555770
I looked this up to be sure and GODDAMNIT

>>715546801
Shit, Shadows of the Empire says Luke's green saber crystal was not only synthetically grown, but that the saber itself was as basic bitch as you could get, akin to a Padawan's. He constructed it out of an old kit he found in Obi-wan's old dwelling on Tatooine

>>715551242
>Its the main reason Obiwan shits on grevious and anakin
Obiwan wasn't some dueling god, he just had some good matchups. Lightsaber form (III) revolves around turtling up to deflect a barrage of blaster bolts, it's not actually suited for dueling. Greivous got fucked because it turns out a hail of lightsaber strikes from a non-force user isn't all that different from blaster fire. Anakin got fucked because Obi-wan litterally trained him and could exploit all his bad habits. Maul got fucked because he was a cocky fuck who didn't expect Obi-Wan to calm down mid-fight after seeing his master die. A true composed duelist jedi like Dooku with a genuine dueling style completely destroyed Obi-wan on two occasions with zero effort.

>>715547180
I wonder what Kotor 2 threads would be like if they didn't throw in that ONE beggar with no right options

>>715557267
The beggar scene is one of the single greatest nogames detectors ever made, so you'd probably have a lot more shitposters flying under the radar without it.

>>715546787
They can be I remember one jedi that used his saber as a gun

>>715544039
Well, yes, counterbalancing retarded shit with even more retarded shit is bad

>>715556991
He didnt imply that though lol.

>>715558717
I didn't imply he implied that, I was strengthening his point about styles.

>>715535714
I love how literally no one cares about "canon" anymore

>>715559406
For me it’s the fact that the story group didn’t even last 3 years before falling apart.
They bragged so much about how the NuEU would be totally on par with the movies too.

>>715548458
Because part of that jedi training is ensuring they don't turn into psycho wizards who can and will zap your slug balls for little to no reason

>>715542886
Synthetic because the whole angle of Sith being evil wizard niggas doing alchemy and shit to create Lightsaber+1 and Jade Dire Rancors is cool and helps show they're looney and not at all in tune with the Nature

>>715535714
Sequels aren't canon

>>715548458
>Let’s have a bunch of cruel, merciless, tortured, un-tethered Force Sensitives trained to kill
>NOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY’VE TURNED TO THE DARK SIDE AND SNAPPED OUR NECKS WITHOUT REMORSE
Then the Jedi have to step over your dumbass to mop your mess up

why is there a fucking Star Wars thread on this hellsite every single fuckin day? 4chan really is just circling the drain with an aging population of middle-aged retards for /v/ to still be discussing Onions Wars a dead and disgraced franchise

>>715556991
>Maul got fucked because he was a cocky fuck who didn't expect Obi-Wan to calm down mid-fight after seeing his master die.
Maul also beat Obi-Wan in the fight part when he yeeted him into the pit and destroyed his lightsaber. Maul died (and you bet your ass he died on Naboo) because he started dancing around like a jerk off to celebrate his victory and didn't expect Obi-Wan to snatch Qui-Gon's lightsaber.

>>715560829
The better question is why can’t retarded zoomers figure out how to filter threads that rarely spill out onto others

This is fuckin it bros. This is like the crystallization of everything people wanted in the sequels and what the post-OT world stands out like in my mind. New Jedi recruits are all young adults and can use guns and dress cool and rugged and not everyone in Obi-Wan's robes. Luke is a calm and collected grandmaster and Kyle is helping him. And we can see the galaxy after the Empire fell. We should have gotten a Jedi Academy 2.

>>715561205
Best we can do is turn Luke Skywalker into a decrepit loser piece of shit with a dead Jedi Order. Please tune in to Rey Skywalker's trilogy!

>>715560829
>Why is the biggest western media franchise in the world with the biggest fall from grace constantly being discussed UGH this would never happen on Reddit!

>>715561151
All the newfags and zoomers being incapable of using filters or ignoring things they don't like is why 90% of this board is inane retard fueled shitposts. Well, that and the mods are incompetent.

>>715560829
Kid, Star Wars has done more for pop culture than your account on Tiktok will ever do.

>>715561319
I wonder when they're going to admit that's never going to happen. It took them the better part of a decade to finally admit Jonson's trilogy never even got off the ground.

>>715561058
>Maul also beat Obi-Wan in the fight part when he yeeted him into the pit and destroyed his lightsaber.
The fight isn't over until the other person is dead or unable to fight. Obi-wan didn't hear no bell.

>>715561058
>after seeing his master die
Remember when people died when they were stabbed by lightsabers? That was cool. Shame Yidsney Wars decided that was gay.

>>715561831
Either way, he didn't Soresu him to death. He basically sucker punched him with his guard down.
Which, of course, Maul shouldn't have done until Obi-Wan was falling to his death with cut off hands.
Fight lost, battle won. Dark Side arrogance gets dunked on as usual.

>>715535538 (OP)
Luke's green saber is all I'll ever want or need. But I did get a lil snowflakey in my younger days playing KotOR. I dabbled in purple, cyan, and viridian.

>>715561205
>Sometimes even a small hope is enough to defeat the dark side, Kyle

>>715561967
>"O-Obi-wan, quickly! You have to force heal me!
>what do you mean you don't know how? It's something anyone can just pull out of their ass whenever they feel like, no training required?"
>"master, why should I have to? It's only a chest wound, you should be able to just walk that off.
>... Master?
>what a bitch"

>>715562821
Just wait until Filoni brings in Cyber Dooku and his robot body.

>>715563176
Are they even legally allowed to slop up Lee's voice?

>>715563326
The Mouse will find a way.

>>715556251
>>715555770
but its similar in kingdom come?

>>715563454
After Amazon was allowed to take a fat shit all over Tolkien I don't doubt it

>>715541738
this is so retarded but so fucking funny

>>715561205
Jedi Knight and Jedi Academy are the canon sequel trilogy.

Which version of Dark Forces is better?

>>715541738
Imagine being the sociopath that designed the lightsticks for Rebels.

>>715535538 (OP)
Silver and black are the most aesthetic, but I can't think of a single character who actually uses them.

>>715564567
I actually really like the look of the thin lightsabers. Just not for Star Wars though. But swashbuckling sword fights with laser rapiers would be pretty cool in its own IP.

>>715565127
Atris uses your lightsaber and it will be silver if that's how you described it

>>715565127
They are used uniformly by cringe characters.

>>715535538 (OP)
RGB gamer swords aren't actually better than a normal grey one

>>715565348
God I hate Ahsoka so much it's unreal, if there's a hall of fame of the characters who've outstayed there welcome Ahsoka should be on the 1st fucking place.

White/Silver sabers are cringe and you are cringe if you select that color

>>715565348
God why did they make her so fucking ugly

I actually like them to be the colour of fire.

>>715565681
Y-you too

Orange saber with a form of Trakata.

>it's a BLACK lightsaber
>but it's not shaped like one it has an EDGE
>forged by a guy so cool he's a Mandalorian AND a Jedi combined
>sometimes it crackles with lighting too
>only the coolest badasses get to use it since you have to KILL to truly own it
>and whoever hold it becomes king of the non-pussy Mandos
The darksaber is such pure fanfiction wank material that I actually kind of love how unabashedly in your face it is about it.

>>715565348
In the EU they were used by Imperial Knights, force-sensitive but not technically Jedi, the whole point was that it was meant to be generic in color and use as a tool without any special significance

>>715566570
I was going to say that Fel's Empire is cringe too, though not as cringe as Ahsoka; but upon further reflection I declare the Imperial Knights to be not cringe after all.

>>715566350
>he's a Mandalorian AND a Jedi
They had one of those in the Kotor comic. There were a bunch of them, they joined Mandalore to fight the Republic and wanted to kidnap a bunch of padawans to raise as Mandalorians

>>715567614
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Demagol, who wasn't Force sensitive and was just taking all Jedi prisoners to try to figure out how the Force works.

>>715535538 (OP)
Choose your (TIE) fighter!

>>715547828
>slipping
Revan did it all intentionally.

>>715567896

>>715567879
You didn't read War?

>>715566350
It has an edge and it is shaped like a sword because it was originally supposed to be a vibrosword, like in KOTOR. Late in the production of the episode, Lucas watched it and did not like the idea that a sword seemingly made out of metal could counter a lightsaber, he thought it diminished the lightsaber, and said that if this was a thing everyone would use it. So he said the sword had to be made out of light, not out of steel, and to make it unique he said to make it black, like some kind of ancient lightsaber. The reality of the situation is that the creator of Star Wars hated most of the EU ideas, and what he had in mind differed drastically from 99% of it.

>>715567896
This is the one area where the rebels have the empire beat aesthetically. X-Wings are cooler.

>>715535538 (OP)
Purple, Djem So

>>715568238
it's been a very long time and War was a pointless continuation of a series that had already had a good ending. Also just wasn't very good, to my memory.

>>715567896
The Interceptor feels mean enough without getting too special snowflake-y, Vader's X-1 is real nice, though

>>715567896
Royal Guard Interceptor

>>715568251
Yeah okay pal sure, imagine using shields lmao.
I'm taking this and flying it into an asteroid.

>>715568242
"vibrosword can stop lightsaber" was always a gameplay concession with little more than a bit of lip service to a lore reason

>>715568242
Sounds like George is a fucking retard.

>>715567879
>Demagol, who wasn't Force sensitive

>>715568242
>he thought it diminished the lightsaber
oh if he could have seen what Disney was going to do with them

Why don't the Sith use flashing lightsabers in case the Jedi they're fighting has epilepsy?

>>715535538 (OP)
purple power nigga

>>715540058
Hate the stupid fans who brainwashed him into thinking he was a hack and that giving to anyone else was a good idea. He was barraged with thousands and thousands of 40 year old men telling him he did a shit job, no human can face that and not either be warped by or dislike it so intensely they wash their hands of it.

>>715568895
Anon, by all accounts he started the ST then realized at the last second that another 9-ish years and 3 movies would probably kill him, and gave it up. He may have given it up in a moment of panic, but it was still his decision alone

>>715568895
>multimillionaire set for life from what he's created giving the slightest shit what anyone thinks of his work

>>715568895
>who brainwashed him into thinking he was a hack
he could've prevented that by not being hack

>>715568895
Maybe he shouldn't have done a shit job then.

>>715568895
ha ha the stupid Gen X dipshits who led the hate charge on the Prequels had to watch Disney rape and humiliate their childhood hero Luke Skywalker in favor of their nobody gives a shit OC.
Eat shit you RLM faggots.

>>715542671
Crazy idea but nice i guess

>>715568895
He didn't have to sell to Disney. He could have let it die gracefully. So I do partially blame him for everything Disney did with it.

>>715568895
Wat kind of cope is this?
Did he get brainwashed into selling to Disney?
Did he get brainwashed into calling them his white slavers?
Did he get brainwashed into turning around and defending them from the fans who brainwashed him in the first place?

>>715547180
If Owlcat made KOTOR there would be this dialogue : "Well into the airlock she goes"

>>715535538 (OP)
Imperial Knights are pretty cool

>>715540386
>Form 1 is kendo
>Form 2 is fencing
>Form 3 is self-defense
>Form 4 is showy Acrobatics
>Form 5 is Main Character stance
>Form 6 is NPC stance
>Form 7 isn't really a defined fighting style at all since its defined by its force use
Did I get it right?

Are all lightsabers equally strong are some stronger than others?

>>715566350
don't darksabers exist because Lucas had an autistic meltdown over the idea of having actual blades in Star Wars?

>>715570065
Now that we have mood ring lightsaber crystals that Dark Siders have to torture into submission or it fights them, some lightsabers probably do have crystals that are more Force-y than others and are probably "better" in some bullshit way.

>>715568242
>Lucas watched it and did not like the idea that a sword seemingly made out of metal could counter a lightsaber
I'm sure he was thrilled when he heard of cortosis

>>715561205
It's crazy how they had a perfectly good story with Jedi Outcast and they decided to just wing it instead. You had the force sensitive smuggler who is afraid of his power, you had a pupil of Luke who runs away because he had become disillusioned with the Lukes order, and you had the Imperial Remnants who still control certain sections of the galaxy but are slowly falling apart and are turning to cult magic in a desperate bid to retake the galaxy. It would have been kino. But Kathleen actually said that "they had nothing to work with". Actually insane how incompetent Disney has been with this franchise.

>>715570065
Yellow is probably weaker than the main 3. Otherwise actual Jedis would use it rather than just being delegated to temple guards.

>>715570276
>some lightsabers probably do have crystals that are more Force-y than others
You mean like the <Your Name> Crystal from Kotor 2 you get on Dantooine? The one that's better than all the others because this one particular rock resonated with you on a personal level?

>>715535538 (OP)
The orange one, 2nd from the left.
It looks like my pee when I'm sick and dehydrated.

>>715568242
>he thought it diminished the lightsaber
The idea of lightsabers being special went out the window when Obi-wan and Anakin were just tossed two spares in the arena in AoTC.

>>715535951
you should take the extended universe stuff out of this collage george is personally quoted disowning it.

>>715571123
George is retarded.

I'm a try hard give me the strongest
Red?

If lightsabers are scifi katanas, why isn't there lightsaber nagamakis?

So... what's stopping a jedi or sith from just force-choking someone at any time? I doubt someone needs to be still for it to work.

>>715571753
Nothing.

>>715571753
A normal person? Nothing. Vader chokes a dude over a video call on another ship.
Why don't they Force Choke the lightsaber guy they're sword fighting? They'd cancel out your telekinesis by using their own.

>>715571865
So the best way to fight would be
>Force-Choke
>Whip out light saber
>Stab
Or, hell, even a regular gun would do the trick and in lore, the jedi and sith can't do much about a small ass projectile moving faster than sound

>>715572034
I mean, they have to see it coming. Once the choke starts, I doubt they can really stop it.

>>715570065
They're not supposed to but Disney will probably fuck that up as well.

Does Vader still have that slave bomb in him? It'd be kinda great if he just randomly exploded while Luke was burning his body.

>>715572251
Vader forced it out of himself.

>>715570065
We're about two steps away from "the wand chooses the wizard" shit with new canon. So expect the eldersaber eventually.

>>715571753
You can't just choke, ragdoll, manipulate, or otherwise telekinesis another Force User unless they're thoroughly exhausted, defeated, or otherwise significantly (and I do mean significantly) weaker than the Choking Force user.

>>715572173
>I mean, they have to see it coming. Once the choke starts, I doubt they can really stop it.
With how precise the telekinesis is in strangling compared to just a blast of Force Push, I don't see why it wouldn't be like in the Jedi Knight games, where if you Force Choke a Force user, they just immediately respond with a quick push and break the choke.

>>715535951
The Clone Wars series is literally the best thing that has come out of the franchise.

>>715572448
Which Clone Wars series?

>>715571753
The targeted force user tends to have some opinions on the matter.

>>715535538 (OP)
I like orange :)

>>715572448
>TCW praise
cringe opinion

I wonder what kind of toilet Sheev has. Or does he just shit on the floor and make Vader clean it up?

>What the force used to be
A thing that just existed that people could use, Dark and Light side wasnt a thing or was so unimportant that it didnt matter.
>What the force is now
ITS ACTUALLY A BUNCH OF BACTERIA...ACTUALLY! ITS THIS...FORCE THAT ONLY CARES ABOUT BALANCE AND WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN! EVERYONE IS A PAWN IN ITS GAME!

>>715572539
Me too anon. You have good taste.

>>715571753
Counterspell

>>715572474
duh
it gave us sexoka

>>715572753
>Dark and Light side wasnt a thing
Genuine question: are you retarded?

>>715572931
They never mentioned THE DARK SIDE once in ep 4. It was JUST. THE FORCE.

>>715572753
>hurr durr we didn't used to have light and dark back in muh teddy bear vietnam
>A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force.

>>715535538 (OP)
red or purple, also those fiery crystals are goats.
>>715542886
bleeding is a concept that is not only thematically fitting but I can't believe it took until disney canon to become a thing. Being a sith is literally all about being so overly edgy and depressed that everything around you warps because of it and you can use that dark energy to bend the force to your will. Bleeding a crystal is very fitting.
I just don't get why people think you can't have both when we have use of synthetic lightsaber crystals sin canon. Weakass sith like the old republic warriors and empire inquisitors would use synthetic weak crystals, and real sith would want to bleed a real crystal.

>>715541738
I unironically like the dumb spinning sabers. They's intentionally supposed to be initially imposing for 5 seconds before becoming really impotent, and them having a get away function just shows how little Vader/Palpatine thought of the inquisitors' strength

>>715573002
>BEN
>A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force.
>LUKE
>The Force?
>BEN
>Well, the Force is what gives a Jed ihis power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.
Obi-Wan name drops the Dark Side before he even explains what the force is.

>>715572539
>>715572776
Came here to post this specifically. Orange and Silver are the choice of the white man.

>>715573198
nigger how are the laser sword blades making a downdraft let alone enough to lift a grown person
the spinning to psyche someone out is fine, no different to Grievous spinning his hands.

>>715573327
>filename

>>715573327
Read the filename if you really want to know

>>715573367
>>715573383
Miniaturized gravity lifts for personal use that only appear in Inquisitor lightsabers only raises more questions.

>>715573529
Why are you such a nitpicky racist anti-semite?

>>715573327
I always thought it was the handle itself generation enough updraft. That thing spins pretty fast when they fly. Also isn't it a thing both in legend and canon that sabers generate actually felt force and weight so that you don't accidentally swing it super easily and cut stuff you don't mean to? In that case the sabers would have enough weight to generate updraft when they spin like that.

>>715573627
>both in legend and canon
There's only canon and ratfiction

>>715573627
>Also isn't it a thing both in legend and canon that sabers generate actually felt force and weight so that you don't accidentally swing it super easily and cut stuff you don't mean to?
Isn't it the opposite? Being weightless makes them so dangerous to use that only force sensitives can handle it?

>>715543701
>tfw grinding the ilum mines for perfect stats on a colour crystal i actually like
j-just one more run, bros. i already have my perfected force mantle set

>>715573627
>generate actually felt force and weigh
Yeah it's in both. In legends it was a consequence of the rotator focus thing that makes the crystal into a beam, its rotational energy was so much that it cause a lightsaber to be as weight as a real blade. In canon the weight is intentional so that you can use the saber more intuitively as a blade.

>>715573212
The novelization even covers the Sith, Vader is explicitly introduced as a Sith Lord

>>715574253
It's funny that in the original comic, just a retelling of the film in print, Vader also invokes the "immortal gods of the Sith" for some reason

Purple is close, but did we ever get an actual pink saber in anything?

>>715535538 (OP)
Yellow cuz that's what Plo Koon used in JPB YEAH

>>715575005

>>715563604
Yeah Absolver has something similar too. Maybe there's some specifics.
At least it's not as fucked as the Nemesis system.

>>715537843
I pity niggers who don't know Zayne.

>>715575140
Here's a non-autistic version.

>>715542886
Bleeding is extremely retarded.

>>715576152
Saw you being retarded all over the kitchen earlier today

>>715535538 (OP)
Turquoise gang represent.

>>715535538 (OP)
More than 3 colours was a mistake. Actually, subtle variations in blue/green/red depending on the crystal would be cool. Dual sabers, other exotic sabers, and dual wielding were also mistakes, obviously.

For a moment, I thought it was a thread about mechanical pencils and their different personalities.

>>715568021
Have an updated Sienar Fleet Systems catalog

>>715576765
Oh that's fucking horrible, thank you.

>>715576802
I recommend the TIE Echelon
It's half off!

>>715576765
Someone badly needed to remind these idiots TIE is an acronym of Twin Ion Engine and not some kind of brand name or codename or designation or whatever they clearly think it is.

>>715576765
Surprised no one has made a TIElennium Falcon for this yet

>>715567061
The Knights outfits alone made them too cool to dislike.

>>715542886
Bleeding crystal is the most edgelord shit I've ever heard. I'd rather they be synthetic.

>>715540543
That sounds fine, much less gay than exotic sabers

Things that are canon about Lightsabers:
>Ilum Crystals
>Synthetic Red Crystals
>Forms
>Double Bladed Sabers
>Dual Wielding
>Can't build or wield if not Force Sensitive cuz u will kill urself
Things that aren't canon
>Everything else

>>715574253
A New Hope also used Sith Lord but got cut from the film.

>>715579664
https://youtu.be/ZWeoL0lMWIg?feature=shared
Is cool

>>715570284
I like the comics where Vader just effortlessly BTFOs people like that first lady. I get that it's wank, but I still enjoy it

Been on goytube lately? Vaderwank has reached critical mass in this fandom.

>>715535538 (OP)
these are the only real colors to pick from, and green is the correct choice

>>715580380
You can include yellow in there, as it's also technically a real choice. I think orange is supposed to be "canon" pre-disney as well but I'm not sure. I was curious so I was looking it up and was reminded why I hate both reddit and Filoni so much it's unreal.

>>715580834
>nu wars

>>715580870
Yea, it's really bad. I almost hate the people who praise this dogshit more than the people who made it. Filoni is such a fucking hack.

>>715540386
form 1 = noobs
form 2 = pro
form 3 = gay turtling
form 4 = unless you have unlimited stamina this form is useless
form 5 = the only useful form
form 6 = will get you killed for real
form 7 = not a real form, just use force powers

>>715535951
So trve.

I am a Jedi and I carry dual red lightsabers

Suck on my dick Council, have a force lightning

>>715535538 (OP)
Give me purple.

>>715581218
Exiled and hunted down by Republic Law Enforcement and Jedi Shadows.

>>715581218
Sith are literally just jedi who were arbitrarily declared to not be jedi because
>emotions are le BAD!

>>715580834
Disgusting line. If anytthing, Witwer is the heir Filoni wishes he could be.

why is called a lightSABER when it is straight?

>>715582225
one day we will see a lightsaber with a curved blade, and it will look stupid

>>715582225
>>715582438
Surely someone has already done this. "what if lightsaber but curved???" is way more obvious than shit like "lmao kneesaber" and "hehe helicopter saber"

>>715580834
I'm so fucking glad more and more people are turning on that fat fuck. He's been nothing but shit since 2008 and hiring him was clearly a mistake.

Name field a fuck

>>715581572
Sam Witwer is a turbo autistic nerd. I fuckin love him.

finally
a proper sequel

>>715582225
Why do they call it JURASSIC Park when there's more than just Jurassic species?
Rule-of-cool branding.

>>715583108
Someone definitely did, probably in some EU comic or fanfic from 2003 buried under 8 layers of wookieepedia. I swear there was a Sith with a weird warped saber from some Old Republic junk-like half boomerang, half anime nonsense. But yeah, between the spinny-boys from Rebels and Kylo’s edgy crossguard, we’ve definitely hit peak “what if lightsaber but dumb.” Next is probably gonna be the "yo-yo saber" or some Zelda-tier whip version.

>>715585964
we already got whips in both the EU and The Acolyte

>>715565710
Because Americans are convinced that if you have an alien of not white skin = black person. And then you have black women features that don't fit the character at all (similarly with Gamora)

>>715583370
>Mel Brooks isn't writing or directing
>Written by three aging Millennials
Don't get your hopes up.

>>715535951
Fantastic post. I can't stand other lightsaber colors other than what Lucas intended. Him bending to Samuel was a disgrace. Over time I've come to stomach the violet lightsaber, but I can't tolerate yellow. I mean... YELLOW.

>>715535538 (OP)
red and cyan anytime i can

>>715540386
which ever style gave me more force point regen in Kotor2

Why do saber colors have to mean something? Why cant they just be that color because the jedi or sith thought it looked cool?

>>715589869
Nerds love to pointlessly categorize shit.

>>715588026
You know there was purple lightsaber in Jedi Knight 2 which came out way before the prequel, right? JK2 was also heavily supervised by Lucas himself.

>>715589958
And that's based.

>>715569019
If you listen to what he says it's very specific, he makes direct reference to the fact the people will hate on you for the films you make so it isn't much fun anyway, then he makes up some bullshit about directing films for himself and never showing them to anyone, that's an obvious response to being shit on relentlessly for many years. His fans not only killed starwars but any desire to make new films, he just became a museum curator at that point.

>>715589869
Saber colors don’t mean anything? Except maybe Red but only that it means the origin of your saber is questionable as fuck

Red is the only answer. Break off your chains anon.

>>715591792
>Become a psychopath, anon.
Mmm no thanks.

>>715591792
Sith would be way cooler if they weren't just evil for the sake of being evil. It's surprising they were even able to function as an empire at all considering they couldn't go an hour without 20 different plots to undermine or kill a political rival

>>715561205
>not everyone in Obi-Wan's robes
Putting the prequel jedi in robes made no sense to me. Obi wans clothes always seemed like tattooine clothes to me in the OT. It seemed stupid for a jedi to be in hiding wearing literally his jedi uniform.

Orange.
Fuck them for giving Rey an orange saber.

>>715593442
I've just come to accept that Disney will ruin every color in that manner and have stopped caring.

Jedi Master
Single red with curved hilt

>>715593649
I was never a massive SW fan, but it still sucks.
That said Star Wars and Avatar the Last Airbender to a larger extent have really helped me accept just ignoring everything in a series apart from the originals once ideologues or greedy corpos take over and turn it to total dogshit.

>>715590068
>JK2 was also heavily supervised by Lucas himself.
>source: it was revealed to me in a dream
I find it hilarious how eu fanboys vehemently hate things that Lucas actually made and straight up call him a retard, but then will come up with blatant bullshit like this to validate their silly fan fiction.

>>715593338
The way Alec Guiness played the role really made the Jedi come across to me more like feudal lords who owned land and had relatively normal lives, more of a social class than anything else. At least that's what I think.

Lucas doubling down on the idea of the Jedi being this weirdo cult that kidnaps and brainwashes kids was stupid and I wish Gary Kurtz, Irwin Kershner or his first wife Marcia had been around to tell him what a fucking idiot he was instead of the yes men he surrounded himself with by then.

>>715589869
Broadly it didn't. Just with KotOR 1 was there some form of class differential, because it's an RPG.
And red for Sith because bad guy colour/simplest form of synthesis.

>>715535538 (OP)
I hate Sameul Jackson so God damned much. Nigger wants to be seen and fucks up lore as a result.

>>715535714
MUH DICK IS CANNON IN YOUR MUM PUSS

>>715542886
Neither, I prefer red crystals being a natural occurrence like in a lot of early stories and appearances that just appear on the most notable bad guys while an array of colors are used by both good and bad Force users.

>>715589869
It's mostly done just to showcase the path that someone follows, although in the movies it doesn't really matter at all outside of Sith having red sabers. Additionally having standardized colors during the eras with many Jedi would allow both civilians and other jedi to immediately recognize a jedi's strengths at a glance

>>715571753
You have to be an order of magnitude stronger for them to not just counter it, and since the in the middle of a fight the effort isn’t worth the risk.
If you are strong enough to just overpower them with the force, chances are that the fight is just a formality anyway.

>>715544039
>>715544187
>>715544294
>>715544536
>>715544997
>>715545949
There's nothing wrong with the midichlroians

>>715594334
>Meanwhile
>I'm gonna produce even more bullshit to counter his bullshit
Fanboys might be pathetic but your desperate attempt to pass as contrarian is even more pitiful.

>>715535714
Colored crystals are colored crystals, retard

>>715535951
Prequels were awful

>>715589869
It makes sense for Jedi to organize themselves by saber color, since it serves as a sort of badge of office for what they specialize in. Trying to say it's tied to the Jedi's mood or force good boy points is stupid.

Reminder that green is the original special snowflake color. There was red or there was blue. That was it.
Then in comes Luke with his maverick bullshit. Can't have a regular lightsaber, has to stand out. Can't follow the advice of an eight century old Jedi Master or the Knight who sacrificed his life to save his, has to surrender to Vader in some poorly thought out plot to get him to just turn away from decades of evil instead of killing him like he was told to. "I want to become a Jedi Knight like my father" becomes "thanks for the lessons gramps but it's my way or the highway now". "That boy is our last hope" becomes "thank fuck he's got a sister I never told you about he's going to ruin everything".

>>715599467
Green was one of the best happy accidents that ever happened in film. It perfectly symbolised that Luke had moved beyond relying on Obi-Wan's hand me downs and grown beyond his father’s shadow into his own man.
Of course the reality was because it was easier to film a green saber than a blue one in Jabba’s barge, but that’s why it’s a happy accident.

>>715540386
for me it's ataru

>>715535538 (OP)
Green then Purple.

>>715540386
Trakata

b-17s
in spess

>>715576765
>TIE Homing
>TIE Spider
>TIE Hailfire

>>715576765
lmao

>>715593282
I mean, if drow manage it just fine

>>715535538 (OP)
I'd like a lightsaber where none of the radiation is from the visible spectrum... just an invisible blade.
Yes it would be dangerous to weild but you'd have the ultimate stealth weapon

>>715541738
Those will ALWAYS be cool

having a lightsaber that lets you fly as well is simply amazing
>>715573327
It's a repulsor that's giving them lift, you're pretty dumb to think it was the blades lol

>>715604895
>It's a repulsor that's giving them lift

So they spin the blade because they though that spinning is a cool trick?

>>715545949
Actually that was always the case, it was just never explored since the focus was always on the "Force sensitive"

Both interpretations of it being something you can harmonize and attune yourself with spiritually and the shitty "midichlorians" viewpoint support it since Lucas said outright the midichlorians use people as star ships to travel around and jump to other life and places

So you can meditate and believe in the Force and harmonize with it and visit places that are strong in the Force and the like, wield objects strong in the Force and bathe in its influence etc. Kind of like the Nightsisters who are not Force sensitive either, they imbibe the Ichor of Dathomir to use the Force. Or you can somehow make yourself open to occupation of the..."midichlorians"

But yes, they fucked it up with Sabine because she admitted herself she wasn't training for years and years and never made any progress before but was now suddenly able to do it, not a good portrayal of it at all. If she'd been with Ahsoka the whole time it'd have been believable.

>>715605219
It's because there's only 1 repulsor that can fit and be powered, so it has to spin to provide lift. If it doesn't spin it it'll propel in one direction. They essentially have 1 thruster when they need 2 and the spinning compensates for this

>>715605251
Mother Talzin said she wasn't naturally Force sensitive in Clone Wars for example.

>I am not a natural Force wielder like the Jedi or Sith. I use dark magick to achieve power.

Her "dark magick" was just drinking the Ichor though, maybe combined with other people using Force techniques on her shen she imbibed it, but that's the basis, the Ichor. The Ichor is never explained but all evidence points to it being a Dark Side life form that forms a symbiotic relationship with its host and allows them to use the Dark Side without any penalty or harm which others cannot do. How this is done is never explained either, only that the Ichor isn't evil since it's a natural life form born in shadows and is simply dark in nature.

>>715535951
I'm so sick and tired of people pretending star wars is not a garbage film series. It's also ridiculous that people pretend the prequels are better than the sequels. It's all dog shit, but holy fuck the prequels were the worst things to ever be put on film.
Genndy Tartakovsky's clone wars was the best thing to come out of the series for tv.
I can't stand most star wars games either, unless they are exclusively about piloting ships.

>>715605219
You must forgive the inquisitors, they are idiots. They were purposefully trained wrong, as a joke.
it’s actually accurate, since they primarily exist to take care of the shit Vader can’t be bothered with, and if they die it shows that they found someone worth his attention

>>715583370
It'll be shit because it's impossible to top the retardation of the sequels

>>715580834
>>715581572
The Filoni hate is born of ignorance, every time someone cited something they hated from it was traced back to George who was working on the Clone Wars series as well and also funding it. Face it, George was old and out of touch.

>>715581572
>Witwer is the heir Filoni wishes he could be.
Spoken like a true self-hating redditor.

>>715605853
That's just how they'll beat it

They'll play it straight instead of comedy and it'll make the sequels look like a joke! And that's what'll be so funny

I can dream

>>715583370
This movie is going to be fucking impossible to please.
If the humor is similar to the original you fags are just going to call it cheesy, dated, and unfunny.
If the humor isn't similar to the original you fags will just call it nu-slop.

>>715605251
Lucas revealing that the midichlorians are literally little people that have their own culture and go on adventures in people like Osmosis Jones is such sheer stupidity, he got too rich and full of himself to ever listen to anyone and it's ruined so many things.

>>715605853
Does anything beat the drunk assassin plot from the sequels?
For those that don't know, the guy Palpatine sent to kill Rey went to a bar after killing her parents, got drunk and told everyone that Palpatine was back and what he was plotting, and Luke and Lando were there and heard him (meaning that the entire time Luke knew about Palpatine being back)
And then the assassin walked into the quicksand because he didn't see it and he died lmao
Luke and Lando did not bother searching inside his ship either

>>715606164
Man, it sure would be retarded if that shit actually happened.

Good thing it didn't and never will be canon no matter how much a crazy cunt called kathleen may say so.

>>715605251
>>715605735
You should know an idea is shit if you have to use the fucking nightsisters as an example of it.

>>715540386

>Nioh-like with these never ever

>>715606661
Does Marlel still shamelessly trace the OT?

>>715606851
Probably given how the faces in those comics look.

>>715606405
Only "special people" being able to use the Force is what's shit, anon.

>Blaming Filoni on Sabine
>When it's 100% obvious it was Kathleen

It's so fucking obvious, just like Mandalorian season 3 was obviously Kathleen and then she OUTRIGHT ADMITTED IT, MADE THEM THROW OUT THE ENTIRETY OF SEASON 3 SCRIPTS AND MADE THEM DO WHAT SHE WANTED: BO KATAN ADVENTURES

Kathleen is the one that genuinely believes anyone can use the Force with a few minutes of instruction because that's how the stupid bitch processed it in ESB.

>>715540386
Soresu so I can enter moving meditation and touch grass while deflecting the female gaze from my peak Jedi hutt body.

>>715540386
Reject tradition,
Embrace modernity of unga bunga me hit hard.
>Playing multiplayer jedi duel maps and discovering while I'm literally trash at every other multiplayer game I'm actually not shit at duels, like not good good, but actually beat pubs.
>Just spend hours in the afternoon after school dueling people with the unga bunga.

>>715543468
Both kind of fit their philosophy but the "oooh they le corrupt the crystal" is just much more hacky slop writing (and circumvents the harmony vs discipline secondary dichotomy in the Jedi vs Sith outlooks)

>>715607254
the force not being a background thing that only affects sith/jedi is what's shit
I don't care what the magic female space waves want, I want to see a war, a space war even. With blasters and walkers, hover tanks and big fuckoff spaceships slugging it out for the future of the galaxy.

>>715607254
Anyone being able to use it is stupid the second you spend more than a minute thinking about it.
Even in NuCanon the civilised galaxy is literally thousands of years old and a grand total of three factions figured out how to use it? That’s fucking stupid. The night sisters are stupid enough already given the corruptive nature of the dark side that just gets ignored as they use it with murderous intent.
The whole concept relies on nobody figuring it out on their own or being taught by renegades/exiles/anyone who left on their own accord, and once the cat’s out of the bag the galaxy is fucked because without discipline the majority of people who learn how to use the force will inevitably fall to the dark side and go on a rampage.
Of course since this is disney, who doesn’t have a fucking clue about how the dark side works, I suppose this isn’t an issue.

>>715596976
They were explicitly explained merely as "indicators" of force sensitivity but retards read them as being the "cause" (and obviously George had been reading about the powerhouse of the cell when smoking a fat joint writing the script) and the movies make a big deal of showing them to be emblematic of why the Jedi are wrong in that they've become a bunch of bean-counting bureaucratic autists with a metrics and KPI fetish but people are too autistic to pay attention to what's practically shouted in your fave exposition.

>>715607254
I prefer the idea of anyone can learn it with enough effort. The films obviously don't and midichlorians are nothing more than a hamfisted attempt at quantifying just how special Anakin is.
The nightsisters are a complete fucking travesty both thematically and how much their magic horseshit fucks with the setting and never should've been a thing.
>>715607604
Dave already pulled Thalzin's teehee I'm not even force sensitive :^) bullshit out of his ass before that. I wouldn't consider magic juice that can turn anyone into a force god that far removed from Sabine's "I guess I can into the force now".

>>715546386
That actually does seem to be faintly there in the actual Star Wars canon - it's like le enlightenment and everybody actually has a "divine" spark they just really have to work on it (but in practical terms few would ever "awaken" themselves)

>>715608139
>Anyone being able to use it is stupid the second you spend more than a minute thinking about it.
Nope, because most people just aren't going to put in the time and willpower to train. They're also rare in the galaxy, not even 1% of it. So they're almost myths and any evidence about them is clearly being ignored or regarded as stories people only half-believe.

Also it's not about "figuriing it out" only, people will be scared of it and not want to associate with it for a variety of reasons. And the people that want to learn that have bad intentions would be turned away or crushed by those they'd want to learn from.

We have real life examples of this: martial arts. Plenty of people know about it, but few bother to empower themselves or use that power in any way they could to change the world around themselves.

>>715608321
Lucas is the origin of nightsister magic though, from the Ewok movie which he made. Lucas said the witch in the movie doesn't use the Force, she uses magic. People were able to save that by having it be another school of Force techniques.

>>715583370
i don't see a parody working when every movie is already a self aware farce that constantly winks at the audience. best they can do is make a perfectly straight star wars movie.
a bit like how shrek was the anti disney by saying fuck you to standard family movie tropes amd puss n boots 2 was the anti disney by playing every golden age disney movie tropes straight

>>715608718
I believe that the witch was only retconned as a nightsister later

>>715605251
Reading this, I remember that real life mitochondria are actually weird as fuck, in that they're actually a "different" organism that "parasitised"(symbiosis if you're actually being more strictly accurate) and became subsumed into a single celled ancestor millions of years ago (I think they're also prokaryotic in "form")

>>715608765
Yes, which was a good thing. Otherwise there's "magic" out there that's different from the Force and it gets silly.

>>715551242
>No chance Anakin would win
The "canon" is that he would have overpowered Obi-Wan with sheer raw brutality (if not for his emotional connection - ironically) and that Obi-Wan won by "exploiting" both the little bit of doubt Anakin had and the fact that he was lost in the sauce of the dark side.

>>715605906
Let's be generous beyond reason and attribute everything bad about TCW and Yidsney+ shows to George, Favreau and KK. That still makes his best works at most mediocre. Guy's a fucking hack.
>>715608718
>Lucas is the origin of nightsister magic though
I don't know why you think that's a gotcha. If a shit idea comes from George well guess what, it's still a shit idea, and the other shit idea it has evolved into won't magically turn good just because the original was even worse.

>>715608718
> We have real life examples of this: martial arts. Plenty of people know about it, but few bother to empower themselves or use that power in any way they could to change the world around themselves.
What a ridiculous comparison. The amount of bullshido that pollutes martial arts is already a roadblock, and ultimately it’s barely a force multiplier outside of specific circumstances.
Weight lifting would be a better example of something that is an objective benefit that requires discipline, and plenty of people do just that. If you could literally get magic powers from it you’d have to fight to keep people away. The precognition alone would be such an insane benefit that even a one in a million chance of getting someone capable of it would spark a recruitment frenzy.
It’s utterly absurd to introduce the possibility and the sheer amount of hoops you have to jump through to try to mitigate it should be indicative of why.

>>715593997
such is the fate of american media. once something is popular greedy fucks who want control over everything will come in a neuter it to suit their needs.
i stopped giving a shit, disney can make all the sequels and the acolytes they want, i will watch the ot, clone wars and replay kotor 1 and 2

Star Wars fans are such obnoxious faggots. I have never seen such a bunch of entitled, arrogant, ignorant spergs, who think they're know it alls on everything, who have the mentality of 13 year old mexicans and shockingly awful taste and no literacy whatsoever. Everything that causes you pain and butthurt is good by definition. George was right to sell. Imagine having to deal with you subhumans.

>>715609816
hi leslye

>>715535538 (OP)
Left to right
>me moralfag lawful good
>mister neutrality with muh inner darkside
>ye old school "original"
>indecisive attention seeker
>pretends to hold beliefs they don't actually believe, is desperate for validation
>the quiet kid who has vivid fantasies of revenge
>ass kisser with severe delusions of self image
>ego is so delicate they constantly pretend they feel nothing, is at the verge of tears
>thinks hes a "cool guy" really just forces himself into other peoples conversations
>makes choices he believes are unpopular because he desperately wants to be seen as different

>>715593282
Bane already solved both those issues

>>715595002
They were supposed to come across as stupid autistic weirdos that can't live a normal life (and that's why they're wrong and the prequels literally beat you over the head with that message)

>>715593338
Well, the OT implied it by making Anakin's ghost wear the robes

>>715535538 (OP)
Yellow or orange

>>715610239
Lucas himself disagrees with you.
In his eyes it was Anakin going against the rules aided his downfall rather than his inability to handle the consequences, and the council were only wrong because they failed to stop him, not because of their dogma.
It’s an understandable mistake to make because the showing contradicts the telling.
He also said that the ancient Jedi and Sith never fought because the Sith backstabbed themselves into extinction before the Jedi even arose, which makes just as little sense.
Lucas tended to say a lot of shit that is pretty dumb

>>715609214
What's so bad about the Nightsisters? They're a group of Force practitioners, it's stupid if there's only 2 in all the known galaxy.

>>715609331
Nah, you simply have a bad take on this.

The Force is space wizardry, anyone can learn it. They just have to dedicate themselves to it.

Martial arts, firearms and hacking are magic you can wield over other people.

How many learn them? Not many in actuality.

>missing the obvious parallel to Eastern philosophy that shaped the concept of the Force in the first place
Force Sensitivity is like Awakening in Buddhism. It can happen to anyone at all, in theory. It happens to some people out of the blue for no logical reason anyone can see. It happens to some after years of adhering to a specific way of living and thinking. And the more you want it to happen to you, the less likely it ever will.

>>715611996
Setting wise there are fare less limitations on their powers and, according to the fucking head witch, no barrier of entry at all.
Personally I don't want any fucking swamp hags and zombies (yes, Geonosian brain bugs were also shit) in muh space wizard series.

There's only one real type of Night Sister and it's not that TCW trash.

>>715535951
The prequel are absolutely fucking dogshit fuck off.

>>715614721
They suck as films but they do present a very interesting world. Which TCW proceeds to explore in the most boring ways imaginable.

>>715614721
Nah, they are pure kino

>>715593997
>Filoni was involved in Avatar, it goes to shit.
>Filoni is involved with Star Wars, it goes to shit
Coincidence?

>>715605906
And yet Filoni's standalone works have proven he's always been shit.