> Thank you for your message and for bringing the European Citizens' Initiative "Stop Destroying Videogames" to our attention. Your question touches on a fundamental issue in the digital age: what does ownership even mean when digital products can simply disappear?
>Today, millions of European citizens buy their video games digitally. Yet, they often remain dependent on publisher servers or support to maintain access to the game or additional in-game items they paid for. When this support is discontinued, the product disappearsโwithout compensation, without an alternative. This is unfair, unsustainable, and contrary to consumer expectations when making a purchase.
>Your concern is therefore entirely justified. Losing access to a purchased game or content is not only a consumer problem but also a threat to digital sustainability.
>We therefore support the call for regulations that oblige publishers to leave video games in a usable state after support ends, for example, by offering an offline mode or providing a clear end-of-life plan. Ending support should not automatically mean the end of the fun or the right of access for those who paid for it. Therefore, I will share your concerns with my colleagues on the Consumer Protection Committee in the European Parliament.
>Digital products, like physical goods, must be treated with respect: as something that endures, not simply disappears.
Sincerely,
Kathleen Van Brempt
>>715601198 (OP)Thorsisters? Our response?
Can't you stay on reddit with this underage garbage?
>>715601319Gooks are gross.
>>715601319you taste in women is reddit
>>715601359Cute girls are cute regardless of race.
>>715601367Liking cute girls is reddit?
Will anti-SKG schizo spammer visit this thread?
>>715601198 (OP)NOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING CORPOSISTERS DO SOMETHING
>>715601439He's already doing it
>>715601319>>715601402koreaboo shit is peak normie. Fuck off back where you came from
>>715601198 (OP)I cant wait for EA and other corpos to get btfo. Muh free maket fags can vote with their wallet on illegal porn and cope.
>>715601319its so fucking weird that this trend of obsessing over a random korean that 13 year old girls had back in 2020, crossed over to random avatarfags on 4chan.
>>715601457I think she is.
>>715601470>normieMaybe you should go back. Kpop has been here longer than you've been alive.
If you don't remember the SNSD - Gee days you shouldn't reply to me ever again.
>>715601510I like the music.
>>715601402>>715601319You are in every SKG related thread posting your goon collection.
Grow up, evolve and do a pushup.
>>715601553>Maybe you should go back. Kpop has been here longer than you've been alive.You fucking wish.
>If you don't remember the SNSD - Gee days you shouldn't reply to me ever again.I was literally going to name drop this as a credential. But I guess the best I've got now is that I saw Gangnam Style at 250k views.
The entire reason this shit is cringe is because it crossed into the normie sphere that year. It's like trying to be an anime fan and saying your favorites are Attack on Titan and Ghibli movies.
You're a normie. A turbo normie. You belong on reddit, not here.
>>715601593Koreaboos are corporate bootlickers, that's why he's here. He's trying to derail the threads while pretending he's just doing it because le offtopic
>>715601647And people respond to it because they see azn woman.
>>715601647>Koreaboos are corporate bootlickersAs if vtumor fags aren't
>>715601716Do you see any vtumor in this thread?
All these developers must be sweating fucking bullets right now.
>>715601747I see plenty outside of this thread
>>715601716Korean society is literally ran by Samsung, LG, etc. They are not only the least cultured of all east asians but are also living in Cyberpunk IRL
>>715601593I couldn't care less about your normalfag reddit movement.
I only post in offtopic threads. Not my fault that you are a tourist and only browse your reddit eceleb garbage movement threads.
>>715601645>people like it so I can't be a special snowflake no moreWhat an insecure underage view of the world.
>>715601647Imagine talking about bootlicking while you ride eceleb cock. Embarrassing.
>>715601647He knows SKG will kill his gacha shit
>>715601761I think they have been for a while, this might be the straw that broke the camels back. Modern games made me so jaded I haven't bought a new one for years, I imagine I'm not the only one.
>>715601829>>people like it so I can't be a special snowflake no more>What an insecure underage view of the world.Again betraying the fact you don't belong on 4chan
>>715601198 (OP)EUROBROS WE KEEP RISING
>>715601198 (OP)Can't stop winning, can we?
>>715601864I have never played a gacha in my life and never will.
Miyeon is in one though if you want to buy her!
>>715601874>betraying the factWhat does that even mean? I'm not insecure because I like what I like and I won't stop liking it just because underage retards like you who never had an original thought in their lives think something is "cringe."
>>715601761>>715601873It's so fascinating to me how objectively right SKG is.
>people should own the things they buyIt's so simple, and there's just no argument against it other than
>the industry doesn't want it that way though!!!!!
>>715601829>he doesnโt even do it for free Thatโs just sad
>>715601829> redditNot like I watched freemans mind in middleschool or anything you ape. Not my fault you are a weal frail male that I could crush with my bare hands. Keep looking at the pretty asian women they'll never touch you, fucking punk. Still working on that pushup?
>>715601982Why would I be a janny? Even the mods are all newfag cancer.
>anti-SKG fags are now so out of arguments all they can do is post gooks and attempt to distract conversation
Lmao
just ignore the avatartranny, it thrives on attention
>>715602018Am I supposed to be impressed that you discovered youtube?
We used to have to burn CDs to pass on videos.
>>715602097I'm not against SKG, I couldn't care less about your underage reddit garbage. It belongs on reddit or the youtube comment section of your favorite eceleb that decided to give his retarded opinion on it.
>>715601198 (OP)Shills are NOT going to be happy about this!
>>715602146I could rape you and get out in 7 years pal. Keep spewing word salad.
>>715602101what else is there to do in these threads? We won.
We raped the corpos, we are currently raping the corpos and we will continue raping the corpos.
>>715602162One of them is currently having a meltdown ITT
>>715602146all I see you do is bitch and moan in every thread, and I mean every fucking thread. like you always have a stick up your ass and you NEVER talk about video games. what's your fucking problem dude? is this your whole life, to just spam this mid bitch and cry?
>>715602162Indian shill defense sweatshops working overtime. Suicide nets deployed at buildings.
>>715601198 (OP)That Members of Parliament are so eager to support it should be making you concerned, businesses aren't your biggest enemy states are and the EU parliament is one of the worst of the lot
>I DONT CARE OKAY
Most of the replies are from him
Kek
>>715601319s.koreans are only above poojeets. if it comes to asia. how can you like a country, ruled by usa, being leader in vanity with feminisits in charge.
thai, laotian, indonesian, chinese or nipponese are all more worth than a hideous gookdoll.
>>715601553>Kpop has been hereโSamefagging for hours with your discord tranny friends since 2022 doesn't make you an oldfag btw
>>715602234>is this your whole life, to just spam this mid bitch and cry?Yes. See for reference
>>715601829>I only post in offtopic threads
>>715602234He's trying to get posts like this retard, unless you're samefagging
>>715602250The EU parliament never tried to take my games from me.
>>715601319We're on a board about toys, anon.
>>715602250This!!! Listen to the fucking corpos, if they say it's impossible to preserve games then it's impossible you goddamn chuds
>>715602285He got my post. Doesn't change he's a sad nigger.
>>715601319Boy am I surprised that the gookspam tranny is against SKG.
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>the mass produced k-pop fag is losing his shit
honestly he deserves it for everytime he showed his ugly avatarfagging in other threads
>>715602250No Viet-parliament ever called me a GAMER
ALL PRAISE THE JAW GOD
ALL HAIL THE JAW GOD
ALL SACRIFICE THY JAW FOR THE JAW GOD
What's a schizo from /mu/ doing here
>>715602325Mods won't do shit about him or gooner spam threads but instantly ban funny pirate software threads. What did they mean by this?
>>715602250Corposcum ARE the biggest enemy, and the people need the power of the state to put that scum in it's place
>>715602234Itโs autism, anon.
Autistic people have obsessive tendencies and never get bored of repeating the same actions again and again. Combine this with delusional self righteousness and youโve got the recipe for the average shitposter that will endlessly tilt at windmills.
The only solution is to remind yourself that youโre not Anthony Burch, you didnโt fall for Scam Citizen, and youโre not so much of a colossal loser that you have a tantrum and play backseat Janny for hours on end for years.
>>715602386Did the guy escape from the kpop general? I feel bad for /mu/fags that have to house that insanity.
>>715602472Now we do too for some raisin
>>715602396They are discord troons, I bet he moans like a sissy in voice chat for their entertainment every single day so he doesn't get banned for shitting up threads.
>>715602472Yeah, I recognize his writing style just from viewing that board a while ago and this nigga talks about that corny genre for literal hours. I honestly have no clue why he does it
>>715602524Nigga he literally got banned in this very thread
>>715602250>businesses aren't your biggest enemyGovernment didn't make loot boxes
>>715601593It's called "doing a Barve" now
>>715602386>>715602472>>715602530I have no idea why but even before he started spamming SKG threads he would just start spamming random vidya threads for no apparent reason that I can discern
>>715602431For a backseat janny he sure loves ban evading lol. This is the second time I've seen his posts get mass deleted and he'll be back within the hour. Guy spams that ugly bitch 8 days a week.
>>715602234>you NEVER talk about video gamesBecause the threads I post Miyeon in are never about video games. It's always offtopic garbage.
>>715602259I like all cute girls from all races.
>>715602260If you don't remember korea time in the sc:bw days you are too young to speak to me.
threads too.
>>715602325Why would I be? I'm from Europe, I couldn't care less.
>>715602472I only post on /v/, I hate generals. They are all reddit circlejerks.
>>715602250>should be making you concernedLiteral concern trolling lol
Are you able to articulate why anyone should be concerned beyond "gubmint always bad!!!"?
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>spammers always claim they shitpost because ''THESE THREADS ARE NOT VIDYA''
>meanwhile they are nowhere to be found on the 2literal nigger streamer threads, the dozens of porn threads and gacha threads
it least use a actual believable reason shill-kun
>>715601198 (OP)Assad must go meme aged terribly. He's lucky they didn't hang him from a lamp post, i knew he would put those luxury apartments in Moscow to use some day. Because on the other hand there was no threat of Assad ever being violently overthrown because his family was deeply entrenched in the USSR prior to that, he always had a safe passage to Russia. Moscow would have have given his father Hafez refuge if the same thing had happened during the start of his dynasty rule. And again it's quite interesting that Assad was popularized and humanized online mainly by 4chan because people saw a bunch of his staged rallies in Syria and thought that those were actually proof of public support. And it's up in there air about whether he did gas his people, because people for some reason trust a dictator not to treat the population of the country that he rules like parasites. He probably did gas them, Russia and the CCP and their proxy organizations were the only ones creating propaganda for it all apparently being staged.
>>715602250>businesses aren't your biggest enemy states are
>>715602541Imagine welfare as a lootbox system. You're starving? Should've been luckier with your boxes.
Gookposter, we need your service!
>>715600508If no gook spam appears in that thread within 10 minutes, you admit that you're the one who spams all the offtopic threads
>>715601864>skg will kill gachanigga how does this make sense. the only type of gacha I can see skg having any impact on are those shitty cashgrabs based on preexisting IPs that japan churns out endlessly that eos within 1-2 years
>>715602680So being an american?
>>715602595>Me when I lie about an irrevelant mongolian basket weaving forum's history in an attempt of revisionism
>>715602632It was created by shills of a failed dictator. It's so funny because now he's hiding in a Russian bunker
The same thing will happen to all dictatorships given enough time
>>715602629I don't think there's anything more pathetic than people who think it's up to them to decide what is on topic for each board and will spam threads they don't like to try and discourage them. There's a couple like that on /b/. They'd be so much happier as reddit jannies
What an absolute waste of a life.
>>715601439If you keep spamming threads for him to post it, probably.
>>715602575I have never posted Miyeon in a vidya thread.
>>715602580I would never want to be a janny, I don't associate with the cancer killing this website.
>>715602629>moooom they are doing it tooYou are acting like a toddler pointing your finger at others.
I rarely post in porn threads, I find them boring. What I'm doing is funposting and I need threads where I can have fun!
>>715602709I posted a cute asian girl in that thread already but it has been deleted. The first post links it, look it up.
>>715602730Where is the lie?
>>715602595>instantly ban evading to go back to crying about "offtopic garbage" in a thread about a video games initiativegenuinely blow your brains out you no-taste sack of excrement. Kpop is fucking TRASH
>>715602781>NOOOOO DON'T TALK ABOUT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT HAPPENING IN GAMING FOR A DECADE ON THE VIDEOGAMES BOARD!!!!Why don't you apply to be a janny instead of just trying to act like one?
Just a little reminder that the correct report reason is "spamming/flooding"
>>715602793>a thread about a video games initiativeSo it's not about a video game. Take it to reddit, zoomer.
>>715602714the current SKG proposal could have a huge impact on gacha games. Gacha games don't make their money in EU so this could lead to them skipping EU or even global release.
>>715602782What about this one?
>>715599296Glad we're slowly circling the offtopic porn spam you find acceptable
>>715601917Truly the world works best when Euros regulate.
>>715602841It's about many games. It is related to the topic of video games. /v/, the video games board.
You're not posting about anything even within the realm of video games. You need to kill yourself.
>>715602718Is it that random over there? I never checked the details, but at this point I'm expecting the worst.
The gookspammer creates and participates in gacha cuckold threads btw, I managed to join his discord and found out
>>715602910Close. Right now its pay to win.
>>715602928Of course he would. I imagine he also has a two foot long garden gnome in his bathroom just like Maldavius.
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>>715602749Best aged meme of all time
>>715602847Why would it? The EU market might be smaller than others, but it's still pretty free money for them. And they have the easiest exit plan of any games by simply letting the player enjoy an offline version when it goes EoS.
>>715602928oh so that's why he does not spam those threads?
>>715602847Majority Gacha games already skip releasing in the EU because of GDPR, this is nothing new.
Reminder that even his father hates him
https://livestreamfails.com/clip/176439
No! I just rike to spa offtopic treads! you dum dum zoomer! it is e-cereb tread, not video gemo tread! oh how I wish kawai kpop grill would rike me, rook at her poto, she's soo kawaii
>>715601198 (OP)>you will live to see fucking mold destroy megacorporations
>>715603067Some loser spamming K-pop bitches alongside his shit opinions
>>715603046Source: Anon's ass
Or can you give any examples of that majority?
>>715603067Gook women, not even porn. Some shitty korean obsessed faggot who spam every threads he doesn't like with it.
why are /v/ posters so fucking incapable of just hiding and ignoring bait
why are you all so fucking retard
why can you not just report and ignore instead of letting attention whores derail every fucking thread and make this board absolute dogshit
>>715603065Webm? I don't follow links on this site, I don't care that the URL is in plain text
>>715603065No wonder he has such an ego. His father seems just as insufferable. What is it about Blizztards?
Do you think he regrets roaching out in Dire Maul?
It lead to literally all of this happening.
>>715603157I'm here to laugh, why wouldn't I engage in a bit of a bullshittery
>>715603157Why do you continue to get upset over things you have no control over?
You think one day you'll wake up and people are just gonna magically stop falling for bait?
Honestly? This whole thing is starting to feel like Sarkeesian 2.0.
You all say itโs about ethics or accountability or consumer advocacy, but at the end of the day, itโs just another excuse to dogpile someone you donโt like. First it was โhe hates Stop Killing Games,โ then itโs โhe cheated at Animal Well,โ now itโs โheโs a furry and cried one timeโ? Youโre not fighting for a cause. Youโre flailing for reasons to justify being cruel.
Same exact tactics:
Take clips out of context
Spin every emotional reaction into โproofโ
Invent some sinister hidden agenda
Make harassment sound like activism
Anita said games affected people and got doxxed for a decade. Jason said review bombing doesn't fix anything and now you want him to disappear from the internet. Only difference is the side of the aisle doing the screaming.
You turned SKG, which started as a genuinely good idea into yet another purity test. If youโre not 100% aligned with the mob, youโre evil. If you disagree publicly, youโre a grifter. If you try to defend yourself, itโs โcope.โ This isnโt consumer advocacy. Itโs just GamerGate with a new coat of paint.
Jason never shut down a game server. He didnโt scam anyone. He didnโt mistreat his team. He spoke up about bad-faith actors weaponizing SKG and now youโre trying to erase his whole career. What the hell is that?
Youโve taken a movement about preserving games and turned it into a harassment campaign to destroy developers.
Congrats, youโve become the thing you claimed to fight.
>>715602891The mold consumes all
>>715603258I love this pasta.
>>715603258Boring copypasta
>>715602928I'm not into NTR and I don't use discord since I'm not underage.
>>715603258Anon, have you considered that kiwi drama whores aren't the same as people who back the initiative. There's some overlap but most people could care less about piratesoftware.
>>715602996>free moneymaking a global version isn't free. A lot of gacha games already don't make one because they think it's not profitable enough, and this would be one more argument against a global release
>>715602250Oh also while I'm at it the elements of the cult of personality behind this whole movement are worrying too.
>>715603238because it ruins the fucking board
>>715603241/a/ doesn't have this problem because it isn't infested with underage newfags
>>715602781>it's your fault that criminal did a crime to you
>>715602286Except for all the content censorship they support.
I was not aware that women could be that based.
>>715603228People like him donโt think like that.
He regrets having shit teammates that put him in that position.
He regrets having an ungrateful audience that dared question his actions
He may even regret talking about a subject filled with such evil assholes that harassed him for telling the truth
But any of his wrongdoings? Nope, he doesnโt regret any of them, because as far as heโs concerned they didnโt happen.
>>715603191its worthless without sound desu
Wow wow, you can't ask the government to regulate corporations, what's next? Calling the police when someone tries to anally rape you? You don't want to be dependent on the government to help you, and rape last at best 5 minutes, 10 if he goes for second, so just suck it up like a grown man.
>>715601198 (OP)what one random parliament member thinks about it is quite irrelevant, most members wont care about this crap
it will fail
>>715603065Can someone explain to me how a guy with that background and events came to have several million subs?
>>715603191How would you get it without sound? The link is literally used by reddit livestreamfails dude. Calm down.
>>715602596The big scary businesses have explained in detail the issues to come but you've refused to listen to them.
>Wild Update
>He's Done
>It's Over
>He's Over
>Wild Update
>It Got Worse
>It's Over
>He's Done
>Two More Weeks
>It's Over
>He's Over
>Wild Update
>Insane Update
>There's More
>He's Donne
>He's Done
>He Has Lost
>Just Two More Weeks Trust Me
>He Has Lost
>Wild Update
>Please Bro Just Two More Weeks Bro He's Done
>We Have Proof
>He Is Done
>He Lost
>>715602250No the parliament is literally on my side
>>715603348People don't take bait on /a/? I find that hard to believe seeing as how I haven't found a single thread on this fucking site where someone doesn't take the bait, and I've been here for close to 20 years now. I've heard /a/ is an unsuable shithole. I don't care enough to go check because modern anime is gaaaaaaaaaarbage.
>>715603413But he might get dolphin porn anon. He needs to think about his computer security when using Windows 7.
>>715603331I meant if you're already releasing a global version. There's hardly any additional work you have to put in compared to the potential profits. Europe gets the same version as NA anyway.
I also don't think it'd be a big argument against a global release cause as I said, you just give it an offline mode at the end of its lifespan.
>>715603413He speaks with (unearned) confidence in a deep voice (using a filter).
He also got into YouTube shorts super early so was pushed hard by the algorithm
>>715602896Like I said it's not about being acceptable or not, it's about me being able to have fun posting something I like.
People are replying to me so much that I have to skip some because the system thinks it's spam.
I'm not even refreshing the catalog at this point.
I only post in offtopic threads but not all offtopic threads. I'm not a janny you troglodyte.
>>715603127>>715603135Funny how both of you are phonetoddlers too stupid to turn off auto capitalization so you don't expose yourselves. Part of the newfag cancer killing this board.
>>715603157Can you just take your reddit eceleb garbage back to where you came from?
>>715603348What ruins this website is underage retards like you discussing your eceleb garbage instead of video games.
Guess the fun is over, the newfag janny found me and will babysit this thread instantly deleting my posts for being offtopic while he let's everything else slide.
These cancer faggots don't care about the rules, they only delete posts they don't like.
Good job killing this website subhuman gamergate tourists.
Europe having to fix problems caused by foreign retards? Must be a day ending in y.
I remember talking to an american friend of mine about work and he genuinely couldn't comprehend my country's (The Netherlands) worker rights, as if I was gaslighting him on a fantasy.
>>715603413His father set him up with a job using his insider industry connections via the Night Media.
>>715601198 (OP)The corpolobby fears the Belgian
>>715603413It's literally night media shenanigans with the algorithm. Like destiny said, if take the 10 best redditors and put them in a room together and create a person to appeal to more than just redditors, they would make pirate software.
>>715603594That would be the protestant work ethic in play. Just keep working no matter how hard you're getting fucked over by jews.
Stop killing video game threads.
>>715603586>calling other subhumans while having a fetish for the most ugliest race of womenGEEEEG
We've got support from game developers
We've got support from members of parliament
We've got support from consumer groups
We've got support from lawyers
We've got support from random political parties
We've got support from over a million signatures
We've got support from seasoned activists
We've got support from some of the biggest voices on social media
And best of all, we've got support from (you)
We can't lose
>>715603665This is a videogame thread
>>715603594american public schooling gives the impression that every other nation that isn't america is literal mudhuts
what do you expect from a nation that mutilates all their boy's penises at birth
>>715603594>Be europoor>Work for a europoor company>Hear that an American coworker complained that everyone's always on vacation when she's tring to reach themI think it was just her venting a bit of frustration in the moment, but it's still funny to me.
Great job assholes. A gacha pseudogeneral died because of your silly petition.
>>715603664Yeah no fucking seriously. I told him about how many vacations day we're legally REQUIRED to have and he nearly had an aneurysm. Shit's hilarious, if a bit grim.
>>715603665>Video game threads>Look inside>Porn, AI, /pol/ or an unrelated schizophrenic meltdownUnless your game is niche, your threads are unusable most of the time.
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>>715603747An AI thread died because of SKG
>>715603626>karen on ubishit's asses Man they are COOKED.
>>715603785God, the SKG movement just keeps delivering.
>>715603427I'll suck your dick if you summarize it for me <3
>>715603692The chances of anything coming from this, were a million to one they saidโฆ
BUT STILL IT CAME
>>715603675I don't have a fetish, I like all cute girls from all races. I think the prettiest woman is Jessica Alba.
>>715603747>>715603785>b-b-but mom they are doing it tooYou are just as worthless but at least you are dumb enough that you keep replying even with this newfag retard janny babysitting you.
How embarrassing.
>>715603785Shit sucks. I was just about to cum!
The EU parlament is a corrupt authoritarian dogshit garbge that only does bad things most of the time, but they still ocasionally manage to support and implement stuff that works in the favor of citizens, so it's good that they're supporting this.
Being against SKG because its going through a gouvermental body is like being against recieving free money from the state because you're anti authority. Unless ur the "one guy in a forest with a shotgun and camo" type of anarchist, ur gonna have to accept that the state is gonna do good things sometimes that you have to take advantage of for your benefits.
I hope this goes as far as it can and scares companies and studios into pulling back on other dogshit things in the gaming industry like the lack of optimization.
>Called stop killing games
>Their threads kill Gacha threads
Well? What do you have to say for yourself?
>>715603413He was pushed by the algorithm and he made several shorts every single day.
>ASIAN WOMEN ARE BEAU..ACK
>>715602749lol hellbound jew
>>715603692>convinced my dad and 2 people at work to sign itI'M DOING MY PART
deleted nearly instantly!
>>715603694Kill yourself, subhuman shitskin.
>>715603840Oh good he's ban evading.
>>715603692>so what are we gonna do? Nothing, we just want to look for temporary online sensation, thats all
>>715603939What was it this time?
>>715603963He already did it twice ITT
Thank you Jason. You were the lolcow we needed to save gaming
>>715603972you know: the usual seething gookpost. nothing unusual about it.
>>715603972Just another wall of off topic seethe and avatarposting the mid looking bitch. (Reminder that avatarposting IS against the rules)
>kpop nigger pretends he cares about board integrity or vidya
lol, lmao
>>715602832>THE MOST SIGNIFICANT HAPPENING IN GAMING FOR A DECADE ON THE VIDEOGAMES BOARD!!!!This thread isn't about Roblox though????
>>715603825>The chances of anything coming from this, were a million to one they saidโฆZero, actually. As if it mattered.
They don't want you to own anything. They're shitting their pants on how fast SKG is now gaining support. They're trying to turn this into another gamergate and I'm afraid it's actually working.
Game journalists are making Asmongold and Pewdiepie the face of the SKG movement.
>Many developers are now urging #StopKillingGames organizers to take a firmer stance against hate groups and clarify the movementโs values. โPreservation without protection is meaningless,โ said Aviv Salinas, co-creator of Blood Nova. โWe need to preserve games and the people who make them.โ
>As the campaign approaches legislative milestones, its ability to remain inclusive and principled will determine whether it becomes a force for good or another flashpoint in gamingโs long-running culture wars.
That article is a load of fucking sjw sludge.
They're really playing dirty now, how the fuck do we stop them?
>>715601198 (OP)>Another parliament member supports skgIt's probably not the last one. This is the kind of case that politicians love to support, since it gives them a lot of positive feedback from voters without any real consequences for doing so.
Unless game companies start bribing politicians en masse, SKG will win.
>>715603939That just shows how embarrassing the moderation is, this newfag will sit in this thread waiting for me to post instead of doing his job.
>>715604028>board integrityNot really, it's just ridiculous that these faggots only delete posts they don't like.
Barely any posts in this thread are about video games or even the eceleb garbage topic but I'm the only one deleted, rules be damned. Curious!
>>715603894Uh... you're welcome?
>>715603972Same as always, though with an added meltdown over the hotpocketta man showing the backseat janny how itโs done.
For me the funniest part is that he knows full well that heโs been marked, so all the ban evading is going to do is give people it the thread a constant clown to laugh at while they go about their businsss.
It shows how full of shit he is about just wanting to be a backseat janny, because at this stage heโs actively helping keep the thread alive, whereas if he just swallowed his pride maybe people would get bored
What the FUCK is wrong with this guy??
>>715604094In other words "easy wins" like Ross said
>>715604121>why don't mods validate my autistic fit about what's allowed on a board?Not unsurprising from a shitpop eating nigger
>>715604181Why do you post this so often?
>>715604181I dunno but he keeps posting these fucking twitter screencaps
>>715604181Hello saar. Your attempts at linking this with gamergate are pathetic, you need to step it up.
>>715604181Too many meds- or not enough of them. Chet's a nutcase who doesn't deserve internet access.
>>715604121>i am above the rules!Retarded fuck.
>>715604089Why contain it?
'Scool.
SKG shit just makes me realize how much people don't really understand or care about how the world actually works and only think about things emotionally and what they want
Live service games are not products.They are services you have the privilege of accessing
>Forcing game companies to give away the release the infrastructure and bones they created to allow people who don't own the copyright to run and even possibly make money off of their product
By far the stupidest thing SKG wants
>Everything Thor related
Because Thor communicates his thoughts like a jackass narcissist, most people just want him to lose out of spite rather than think about what SKG actually does to games long term
We posting retarded takes on Twitter now?
>>715604275You also don't seem to understand the intention of the petition, so you fit right in, eh?
NOOOOOOO THEYD HAVE TO STOP MAKING GACHAS
>>715604296Nah, it's just some faggot who always posts the same pics and pastas in every skg threads to show everyone how much of a faggot he is.
>>715604296What smaller studios are making 400 million dollars live service, always online multiplayer games?
Am i the only one that wants this shit to end in failure and to see skggers eat crow just because i'm sick and tired of seeing this shit spammed 24/7 across the board for the last month every time a nothingburger update on their gay ass petition is happening?
>HEY GUYSE BIG UPDOOT:1.1 MILLION SIGNATURES
>HEY GUYSE BIG UPDOOT:1.2 MILLION SIGNATURES
>HEY GUYSE BIG UPDOOT:1.3 MILLION SIGNATURES
>HEY GUYSE BIG UPDOOT:SOME FAGGOT NOBODY HAS HEARD OF BEFORE AND NOBODY WILL AGAIN SAID SOMETHING
>HEY GUYSE BIG UPDOOT 2:SOME FAGGOT NOBODY HAS HEARD OF BEFORE AND NOBODY WILL AGAIN STILL SAYING SOMETHING
>>715604167I never wanted to be a backseat janny, you made that up. Are you illiterate? I'm just having fun posting something I like with some dun banter.
>>715604196They have been deleting these threads left and right but I guess they are asleep and jannies can't do shit.
>>715604256Clearly not because I keep getting popped but other people in this thread are. Are you illiterate?
Drama slop tubers have finally become useful
>>715604275>Live service games are not products
>>715604275>and even possibly make money off of their productWell if they do that, feel free to sue them, since that clearly is illegal. Why is that only the regular people have to sue the corpos when they misbehave and potential violations from the side of the consumer are treated as something that must not occur under any circumstances? If they fuck with you, beat them down. You got all those law branches working for you for a reason.
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no need to legislate a luxury good you fucking morons
Just learn some fucking self-control and vote with your fucking wallet.
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>>715604296I can confirm, as an indie dev, having to make sure my offline singleplayer game is still playable when I release it is an impossible task for me to achieve.
>>715604181It's incredibly funny seeing the left, who calls themselves anticapitalist and anti establishment fall for every single one of their tricks time and time again.
We can already see the context shift happen in real time, it's so fucking sad.
it has been very blackpilling to realize how much mutts truly love the corporate boot up their ass, staggering amount of retardation as always, and what's even funnier is that mutts themselves will benefit directly from this without having to do anyhting (they are too lazy and fat for that anyway)
billions must die, the average person has the IQ of a rock
>>715604454I will own my games and i will be happy.
>>715604408>STOP BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE!!!!!Concern trolling schizo fuck.
>>715604193Basically, yeah. And it also fits well with the rest of the EU consumer protection laws.
Miyeonigger if you're reading this: I fucking hate you. They ban my ass and my entire region gets blocked from posting images even when the ban expires yet YOU, you over the Urals cunt invader, get to dodge bans in minutes, 5 times in a single thread and the jannies do nothing. HOW? Cunt. I live fucking next to you, why do I get punished severely?
>>715602191This is the primary reason theyโre so furious. Itโs out of our hands now, and all we can do are victory laps.
The seething rage comes from the knowledge that theyโre completely powerless, as demonstrated by the gay scat porn spam that happened when it broke 1m. Even their scant hope of fraudulent signings is a bare glimmer, since it would require unprecedented fraud now, and even if it does get invalidated it might get put to the table anyway now that individual members of parliament have shown interest.
this is just another violent overreach from authoritarian state. in an ideal world the eu and all other governments would BE DISSOLVED and then the free market could efficiently regulate everything.
>>715604454Been voting with my wallet for over 20 years genius, and it's not working.
>>715604275>Live service games are not products.They are services you have the privilege of accessingThis is a thing that's very recent and just companies shitting in ur mouth and u eating it gladly.
Every single big "live service" title up until recent times had offline modes. Counter Strike had them, Halo always had them, stuff like AC Unity and the division had them, even fucking Destiny 1 had it.
This "uhmmm actually its only a license-" is just bootlicker bullshit brought up recently.
>>715604296>flagAt least he signals his low IQ and slavery.
>>715604408The outrage will be funny, yes.
Sadly, none of those mouthbreathers will educate themselves on intellectual property.
Daily reminder that the european video games lobbying group straight up said they are against SKG because if people are able to play cawwa duddy 27 on private servers after official ones get shut down they might not want to buy cawwa duddy 28 (90$ standard edition).
>>715604504>>715604181what is it with you faggots posting literal who twitter screen caps
why the fuck do you care
why the fuck do you think anyone cares
>>715604275>Live service games are not products.They are servicesWrong. Come up with better bait.
>>715604601>is mad that others who voted with their wallet differently outnumber himJust admit you are throwing a tantrum that you are a minority and didn't get what you wanted.
>>715604454I just KILLED a game studio... without paying a FREAKING DIME!
>>715604454good morning saar
>>715604575>stop calling the cops when you're in trouble, this won't unrape you, and the criminal world will self regulate eventually
>>715604663someone needs to wheel in a stack of every call of duty game ever made and reply to that with "so what?"
Can somebody post the image showing that Ubisoft uses that one company from India to help their online image?
>>715604296Kek, what small studio makes live service games? Do these faggots know how much the infrastructure would cost?
>>715604462I'm so sorry Jason:(
>>715604696Indians love SKG because they'll be the first to be hired to maintain all those games that the devs wanted to abandon. Careful what you guys wish for
>>715604701It's funny because this is what some town in Canada? told it's residents to do.
Just leave your keys in the car when you go to sleep so car jackers down have to break in and cause a violent crime.
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My youtube notifications this morning
>causes the largest entertainment industry in the world to have a metldown
how is he so strong?
>>715603241>I'm allowed to get mad over some plastic whore spammer >you're not allowed to get mad over me being retardedKill yourself.
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>>715604663Exactly, it's a well known fact nobody played CS:GO when it came out because anyone could still play CS 1.6.
In case you're wondering if we're winning:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/I%20want%20to%20play%20the%20crew%20ubisoft/
They're in full corporate meltdown pajeet shillforce overdrive mode.
>>715604181Stop posting your shit here, chet.
The schizo has hacked the eu goverment data centers!
>>715601198 (OP)>Moldman yells about cheap laws shitting on consumers>Radio silence >Finally gets some Momentum years later>Suddenly /v/ is against him>/v/ is now defending EA, Activision and attacking people for not deleting their ubisoft gamesWhat happened?
>>715604571You make offtopic threads, I don't. You should be banned.
Is the newfag janny still here or can I post now?
>>715604886>/v/ is one person
>>715603382Like? National censors =/= EU censors btw
I think even if this whole thing fails, it will probably radicalize a large enough % of people that can apply pushback in the future to these kinds of products.
Very similar situation to Net Neutrality, where there was a large internet push to have Net Neutrality, but we didn't get it, however ISPs are now too afraid to use their new-found power to implement these business practices anyway.
>>715604886The saars are in full force. I'm waiting for somebody to post the image that proves it since I forgot to save it, but Ubisoft and probably other companies work with a company in India that "infiltrates" online forums in order to improve their image. They are literally paying people to oppose SKG online. This is not a joke post or hyperbole, it's reality.
>>715604842Nah, it's a fag who has been spamming gay porn in any threads he doesn't like, seems like skg is just his latest target. Like the gook poster but less insufferable and just slightly more gay.
All this for what? force devs to waste time and money creating offline modes for abject autists who can't say farewell to their shitty shovelware game? your game is dying, devs start losing money. move the fuck on.
>>715604795PirateSoftware is a NIG
>>715604680On the contrary, I'm very satisfied that there is now a possibility for regulation to reign in the big corpos, despite the literal consoomer cattle.
>>715604796HE'S BECOMING TOO STRONG
>>715604796Fungus is innately pro-freedom. Glory to the mold.
Donald Trump will kill this initiative dead.
The EU shouldn't be messing with American companies if they don't want tariffs to increase.
>>715604948But from which ass is Ubisoft pulling money from? Theyre barely dodging bankruptcy. Not that i doubt what you said tho
You know what. I've changed my mind. I agree with SKG. I still think it reeks of commie bullshit but I think I can join forces with you if it means we get to fuck over Ubisoft.
>>715604909You think you're better than me??
>>715604649>pinterest image name>midwit takeWhat intellectual property rights are breached when hosting servers with old-ass games, you mentally deficient nigger? Make like hannibal and eat my whole ass.
>>715605024DELETE THIS SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>715605063you saying that (You) are the janny?
What company was it to that refused to release it's live service trash in Europe because all they had to was show a chance on getting an item. Turns out most of them were bellow 1%.
SKG fans claim to fight for justice, but thereโs no justice in demanding indie devs work for free, release IP, and maintain servers forever. Thatโs not preservation, itโs exploitation wrapped in gamer entitlement.
>>715603645>Like destiny saidDon't quote that retard when he's just talking shit to fill dead air. That doesn't even make sense because "10 best reditors" is a nebulous concept that means nothing. By what metric is someone a "best reditor"? That blue gnome may as well have said 10 florglesnargles.
Do yourself a favor and play videogames while listening to an audio book. The book doesn't matter, anything would be more insightful and coherent than some faggot streamer droning on for hours.
>>715605017THIRTY GORILLION PERCENT TARIFFS ON VIDEO GAMES
AND ALL THAT MONEY WILL GO STRAIGHT WHERE IT MATTERS
TO OUR FRIENDS, ALLIES AND MASTER ISRAEL
>>715604959As opposed to wasting time upkeeping dedicated servers
>>715605095Just release the source code bro
>>715605029No, really, he has been posting the same gay porn he uses in other threads, just check pages 2, 4, 6 and 7 of the archive link posted and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Put the binaries in the bag.
>>715605089No. But when I see you getting beat in the ass I don't post my stuff because jannies, being high IQ american intellectuals, often mistake me for your hagposting ass.
The gaming industry just laid off tens of thousands of jobs this year alone, it's not in a good state at the moment. This movement is just another kick in the teeth while they're already down.
These demands are absolutely unrealistic and are impossible especially for indies to implement.
It will also have other unforeseen consequences like increased inflation and a possible collapse of the industry.
>>715604959This sounds like when the suits told Free Radical not to add mapmaker to their game because they thought it was pointless and didn't know how to monetize the immensely popular feature. You sound like a corporate shill.
>>715604796A man can change the world with enough autism in the right place.
>This is a massive win for fans of the movement, no doubt triggered by increased exposure from controversial content creators like PewDiePie, MoistCritikal, Asmongold and even Elon Musk. But at what cost..
FUCKING DEXERTO
Their fucking articles always spread like wildfire on Twitter. DON'T Fall for this fucking shit, we have to be fucking careful. DON'T let them convince people you know that SKG is Gamergate
>>715605095Kek, nice bait.
>>715605063No, but there are enough offtopic threads around already like this garbage.
No need to shit up the board if you want to funpost, I get enough opportunities without ever having to make a thread.
>>715605196That was not me. Curious if this newfag pops me if I don't post Miyeon.
>>715605263>3M viewsHoly FUCK! They're really fucking at it now. They want people to feel sorry for PirateSoftware and call SKG another Gamergate.
>>715605196im not that cunt, i'd have posted some kpop woman if I was
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>>715605224>The right autistic man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world
>>715604959All this for the future. Where otherwise every single singleplayer game would come with always online DRM. Where maybe even Cars would have to connect to a central server once per month in order to keep driving.
It's the right thing to do. It's also the right thing for developers, because that way the can focus on making a game, instead of wasting time and money creating unnatural server dependencies and DRM solutions.
>>715604504>the leftBoth Assmongold and hbomberguy have expressed their support to SKG.
Stop trying to drag this into your cultural war bullshit, retard.
I really dont see why anybody would be against this. What is wrong with an online game having an offline game? Isnt that literally just norm 20 years ago?
How the fuck is the kpop avatarfaggot getting his shit deleted so fast?
>>715605341rise and shine mr. moldman... rise and shine
>>715603825Wizards know 1,000,000 to 1 chances occur 100% of the time.
>>715605375The left fucking hates Asmongold with a burning passion.
I wonder if and when this passes that it'll apply to games we've already bought. EA is going to pull the plug on the PvZ shooters and all but one of them have everything ready for offline only play.
>>715605390Hand of God is in this very thread.
>>715605387Only corpo shillfarms and bot posts oppose SKG.
>>715605329I once witnessed a janny beat his ass and ban his region from posting images, like he does mine all the time. This happened only once though. I assumed he did it again.
there is an elephant in the room with live service games though. you get more what you paid for intially (patches, content updates etc). it's not as simple as buying a game once and keeping it forever. with a live service there is no "game". the shape of experience is constantly changing.
what to you want to "keep" exactly? what version, time slice of live service game?
>Saw a xitterfag complain that making every game require to keep functioning changes games from art to a product
Games aren't a fucking theater show holy shit. Do you rent paintings? Do men with black out spray cans come into your house to black out the painting once their "publishing deal" ends?
>>715605387>I really dont see why anybody would be against this.Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire Syndrome shaking hands with corporate shills to create the ultimate corporate defense force.
>>715605201Source code bro
Hxsnj
>>715605406>End of HL1>Stores Freeman in a cold, dark place>Future is bullshit>Mushrooms feed on bullshitRoss really was the Freeman all along
>>715605390Newfag janny is butthurt and keeps refreshing the thread just to delete my posts while ignoring all the other offtopic garbage going on in this thread.
Only a pajeet can be this dedicated to his nonpaying job. I wish the most sacred cow pee on his head, he is exceptional.
>>715605481All of it until eos.
There is no reason why Nikle can't be a single player game once it shut servers down.
>>715605406wake up and smell the spores
things are looking good bros
I'm a burger but I've been cheering you on the whole way. It's beyond retarded that video games are the only form of digital media that can be taken away at any time. None of the movies or audiobooks I've bought over the years do that.
>>715605423discworld and war of the worlds references on my /v/?
my brother in Om, I'm glad you're here.
>>715605481>there is an elephant in the room with live service games though. you get more what you paid for intiallyNo you don't. You get what you paid for. If a dev wants to release a live service game with a $200 box price because "eventually it'll be worth that" they're free to do so. Plus, many games lock updates behind dlc and MTX so it's that easy.
Would it kill Ross to get a haircut and look more presentable?
>>715605113>Soviet IsraelFTFY
>>715605568short hair is for faggots
>>715605201>EA and M$ lay off thousands because their managers stepped on a lego or something>This somehow affects the rest of the industryAAA devs cutting bloated staff because they expected the world from their shitty titles isn't really a good indicator of the industry. Just shows how rotten the entire industry is and shitty game practices won't make it any better anyway.
>>715605568he's just a guy who made a petition. he doesn't have to present the thing in public. also he's 62% mold
>>715605557>It's beyond retarded that video games are the only form of digital media that can be taken away at any time.Has that not been a thing with digital movies/tv shows? Genuine question, I feel like that's something that companies would do, especially if they want certain episodes scrubbed completely.
>>715605568He said it himself; with short hair, he just can't rock as hard.
>can boot up beyond citadel NOW and look at lovingly crafted incest art and then blow anime girls into chunks
>can't even open up The Crew
I know which one I prefer.
THINK OF THE POOR INDIE DEVS WHO WANTED TO MAKE A MULTI-BILLION DOLLARS GAAS
Remember that time ross and his bro bought souls in exchange for candy? We know How poweful he's got by now, but what about his friend?
>>715605657Powered by Sorseโข
*pbfft*
>>715605629if it's a subscription service then sure. but the moves and audiobooks I have bought and downloaded continue to work. even if the store that I purchased it from goes down, I can still play my media locally
>>715601198 (OP)This is getting more and more interesting. There is clearly political will in the EU for SKG to pass and produce laws and regulations concerning videogames and the much needed consumer protection for gamers.
>>715604181If SKG really is another gamergate, where the fuck is our mascot then?
>GAMER RIGHTS petition BTFOs petition to ban conversion therapy
The STRONGEST minority.
>>715605728We already have him. Gordon Freeman.
>>715605631Rock as hard? The man lives with an autistic shut-in girl and keeps wondering why mold infests his homes when she leaves damp laundry everywhere.
I like Ross for the most part but he is fucking terrible at most games he plays i.e Revenant and no offense but Freeman's Mind sucks dick. Game Dungeon is better.
>>715605557Sorry bud, video games are a limited commodity that goes bad over time, we're running out of it right now so we'll all have to tighten our belts.
>>715605751SURRENDER FREEMEN
>>715605728>If SKG really is another gamergate, where the fuck is our mascot then?Obviously the e-celeb you guys keep praising to high heaven.
>>715605657Dude's filled out nicely since then. Fucker looked like he could've played Fogell in Superbad back then.
>>715603348>/a/ doesnt have this problem>/a/ isnt infested with underaged newfagsKEKYPOO
luv me vidya
luv me mold
'ate corporate bootlickers
'ate shills
'ate shitposters
simple as
>>715603825the WotW thread last month was great
>>715605629If you pay for cable television, you have the right to record, copy and watch your programs and movies whenever you want.
So Ross was 100% right when he said politicians love easy wins?
>>715605909Yes? It's plainly obvious to anyone with a brain that they do.
>>715605728Check your walls and bread anon
>>715601198 (OP)As a vidya developer I'm not going to sign it. Whoever makes the game should be able to do with it as they damned please. The standard nowadays is online server-based games and those are expensive to maintain.
If you want games to stay alive then KEEP PAYING FOR VIDEOGAMES you fucking losers
>>715604181wtf that dude work at valve no? why would he say that about ross of all people i can't stop laughing
>>715605938>common colors of mold is green and/or purpleThis is starting to get a little too real for me, guys
>>715605909EU also loves regulations, why would they refuse the chance to buttfuck corporations
>>715605976war of the worlds
>>715606006the guy has been acting increasingly unhinged since he left valve. almost like his ridiculous personality was starting to interfere with the office.
>>715601198 (OP)You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.
This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.
If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over?
>>715605982>give me money reeeeeeeee
>>715605982I as a videogame devloper from Europe already signed this initiative. I love all American ''videogame developers'' who threaten to exit the European videogames market. Do it. I beg of you. Leave. More free real estate for the rest of us.
>>715606079>vote for this petitionstopped reading, probably stale pasta
>>715605982>i won't sign because I want to make unethical business decisions-Nobody gives a shit, and you're not a ddveloper. Otherwise, give me some examples of your work.
>>715601198 (OP)Do you really think that -140k subscribers hurts Thor if he has 2,3 million?
>>715606036That's vague. Immigration control would buttfuck corpos but do you think they'd have politicians coming out with open support?
>>715605982its crazy how anti-developer /v/ is.. its like they have never made a game and dont know the challenges involved.. oh right they havent because they are basement dwellers who have never had a real job
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>>715605898>So who's this Freeman guy?>They say he was at ground zero.>Part of the european initiative? You think he was responsible? Electoral fraud, maybe?>Yeah, maybe. All I know for sure is he's been harassing my favorite american companies.>Oh yeah, he'll pay. He will definitely pay.
If SKG supporters want accountability, start with publishers, not the indie dev working out of their living room.
Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a ball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.
You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket. Funny how that works huh?
>>715606137>Be a soldier killing your own people>Proceed to get mad when one of them dares defend themselvesunironically why are amerilard soldiers such hypocrite retards
>>715606148Don't expect SKG trannies to use their brain.
>>715606006Worked* at Valve, he left and made his own GaaS game, which failed, and he released the source code so people could keep playing it after it went offline.
Yes, that fuck literally did more than SKG asks for, but he's assblasted about it because he's a schizo who've destroyed with brain with alcohol.
>>715606073You think abolishing IP law means the company would be compelled to hand over their server software? Are you retarded?
>>715606148Indie devs make games that are DRM free and on GOG. Indie devs put out dedicated and private servers. Don't talk about indie games when you don't know what indie games are.
>>715604089Neither of these people is a good figurehead to choose if you want to slander a movement. They were both supremely popular and only hated in a controlled echo chamber of libs who do so because the hivemind demands it.
I mean, /v/ might hate them, but mostly on contrarian reasoning.
>>715604420Calling a live service game "product" is an insult towards actual products
>>715601198 (OP)I work for a massive publisher.
You idiots won't change a thing. The attitude inside a massive publisher is "yeah, the games suck and the microtransactions suck, but they pay the bills". Like that's literally what is said in our massive meetings and even the lowest totem pole workers know that's how it is. We know the games suck, but hey pay the bills.
It is unfortunate that I work for a company that takes advantage of people that can't control their finances, but I haven't found a new job yet that has similar pay or benefits.
You won't change shit with some stupid twitter campaign.
PEOPLE. KEEP. BUYING. MICROTRANSACTIONS.
PEOPLE KEEP PAYING $120 TO PLAY GAMES 3. DAYS. EARLY.
You won't change anything. PEOPLE KEEP BUYING THIS GARBAGE.
Unless you can educate people on finances so they stop buying $10 loot boxes every single paycheck, then NOTHING. WILL. CHANGE. IDIOTS SHOVEL MONEY INTO OUR POCKETS AND WE ALL HATE THE GAMES WE MAKE BUT YOU MONKEYS KEEP BUYING THIS SHIT AND PAYING OUR BILLS.
>>715604181I can't find this guys video on his channel can you link it to me? his youtube channel has the same name and avatar. ex valve writer.
>>715605851>search thunderchild in the archive >immediately find itWorks every time. Itโs staggering that a grand total of one adaption included such a critical part of the allegory
>>715606148Oh yeah, so sad about all those live service games made by single devs, you disingenuous coon.
>>715606073Not a single of those pathetic pieces of shit would even admit they just want piracy legalized. They lack brain cells.
>>715604296If a smaller studio wants to make a game they can pull the plug on down the road, FUCK them. If indies stick to single player or peer-to-peer game design, they have literally nothing to fret about.
>>715606248that one's new, isn't it?
>>715604181This guy is trying so hard to be noticed by the corpo overlords ever since Valve dumped his ass
Thor should make a tweet about how he hates NEETS finally getting a job.
>>715605480Not really, I'm just bored because my posts get instantly deleted by this newfag babysitting an offotpic thread. If there were any mods online this thread would have been long gone. It's just a rogue janny that has no power.
No way to funpost in these conditions!
>>715606182then why is that not the case for books and films
>>715606130You've never made a game, and you can't read if hou think this will harm developers.
>>715601198 (OP)ACTUAL DEVS HAVE SPOKEN
YOUR MOVEMENT IS A NOTHINGBURGER
STOP SPAMMING THIS BOARD NOW
>>715603191shoo shoo schizo retard
>>715606334not reading lol
>>715606349No shit, you have to make your thread turbo reddit to get any bumps at peak pajeet hours.
>>715606082BASED BASED BASED
>>715606318This is an on-topic, board relevant topic and thread. You're in the wrong here, bozgor.
>>715606320Because go choke on a black dick ัepะฝัะน ะปัะฑoะฒะฝะธะบ
>>715606334>AAA game dev hereDidn't know amoeba could post on reddit.
>>715606334>legal infrastructurelet the lawyers do their jobs and you develop a game that doesn't disappear one day
>>715605909Yes, and anyone offended at that was a literal retard
like mr figtree
Put the binaries in the bag.
>>715606334Those aren't devs lmao, I don't know what it is, but the way they write just instantly give that away.
>>715606148Oh yeah, all these indie deverinos making always online service games. That thrived before SKG. I certainly can't name a bunch of games made by indie shitters who though they'd succeed by making online only shit.
THERE WERE POSTS OF SHAPES AND SIZES
SCATTERED OUT ACROSS THE THREAD
AND I THOUGHT I HEARD HER CALLING
AS THE MOVEMENT PULLED AHEAD
THE SPAMMERS MUST HAVE SEEN THEM
AS ACROSS THE THREAD THEY FILED
STANDING FIRM BETWEEN THEM
THERE LAY JANNY CHILD
>>715606447>its not true because...well just because ok??!
>>715604275If it's a service, don't sell it like it's a product.
>>715606248>Unless you can educate people on finances so they stop buyingYou can't tell the farm pigs to grow tusks and become boars. You can't turn the shepherd dog back into a wolf. The animals did not domesticate themselves. You cannot beat the farmers by telling the livestock to run for their lives.
>>715606419Youd think this would be rather easy, considering how that was the norm back in the day. Hell, I can boot up my copy of dark souls 1 offline, and play it just fine despite invasions and coop features nit working.
>>715606467Please understand, anons are EXPERTS of how successful people type on reddit or twitter.
>>715606472If it's a service, advertise it as such and provide date for end of service.
>>715602386/mu/ is too dead for him nowadays, so he's branching out to other boards.
>>715606073>abolish IP lawThat was never going to happen, friend. If you think the push against handing over server binaries is rough, try fighting against giga-corps like Disney who want a permanent, exclusive stranglehold on all their properties forever. And have all the money from half a century of market domination to litigate it.
>>715606334>errm we don't have the infrastructure for this! our infrastructure is built for short term profit abandonware, exploiting customers and nothing else!not my problem lol, build it then
>>715606334>no technically reason given, just very vague "we can't do it" and talking about legal reasonsThose aren't devs, most likely lawyers or managers.
>>715606467Hey, I'm a AAA dev, and I think SKG is pretty cool. Do you believe me too?
>>715606463thats a disc retard, not the game
the game is essentially ip that is not stored anywhere, you just access it through the code
this is the problem with you skg retards, you have no idea how the system works and why its so catastrophic to let the government get their greedy hands on it
>>715606407Sure, just like gamergate was with all the reddit tourists invading. It's not about a video game.
At least that underage garbage didn't have you zoomers discussing eceleb faggots constantly.
This janny is relentless, might even earn a handful of cow shit to smear over himself!
>>715606541I have never posted on /mu/, I hate generals. They are all newfag reddit circlejerks.
>>715606467Maybe the fact they don't talk about any technical reasons for it being impossible and instead talking about legal reasons.
What fucking dev care about the legal aspect of the company?
>>715606571Name your place of work and some projects you've been a part of.
ship the kpopfag off to korea so he can share a cell with johnny somali
>>715606573>thats a disc retard, not the gameIt is actually a copy of a game, on a disc. You own that copy and are free to do with it as you please until you relinquish your ownership of it just as the company did when they sold it.
>>715606334Hello fellow gamers, I too, despite being a AAA (tripple A) developer am a gamerโข, but being an annonymous AAA developer I have a bit more of insight into the industry and, with a regret, I have to inform you that it is phisically, virtually and lawfully impossible for my multimilion-dollar-tax-sponsored company to provide you, or should I say, us gamersโข with a toolset required to launch a private or local server
>>715606467What is this unspecified legal reason that stops devs from artificially killing their own games?
>>715606334>they will simply never make only online games that release in europeWhat a drooling retard
>>715606467>Game dev here>We are not going to be able to force game companies to comply with thisGuy sounds more like a paper pusher at EA than an actual game dev.
>>715606334>this will just lead to Europe not getting any online features ah, so just like only Australia got steam refunds and only Europe got usb c on iphones
>>715606667the disc is essentially temporary license to access to product, revocable at any time at the discretion of the developer.
>>715606618Blizzard Entertainment, 7 years, lot of projects um
I think it's amusing how corpo shills at this point have no choice but suffer utter meltdowns and scream in rage while spamming irrelevant doomposting like "OOOOH YOU THINK THIS WILL DO GOOD?! WRONG!!! IT WILL ONLY CAUSE BAD THINGS!!! I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT... BUT IT WILL END BADLY!!! YOU'LL SEE!!!"
Also holy kek the mentally ill gookspammer is STILL ban evading. Just rangeban him, he'll shit himself when he sees he can't spam his gook whore folder anymore
>>715606618your moms house and your conception
>>715602632>AssadThere was like a week of Lion of Damascus kebab-shop spamming on /pol/ when he fled. Pretty funny desu.
>>715606573>she doesn't know what is a game discHow sad it must be to be born into a world where when you buy a game in a store, what comes inside is just a code.
>>715606604Y'know what, I hope this is another gamergate just so a new imageboard crops up and I can get away from faggots like you pretending to be ""oldfags."" And so I can multi-image post webm/mp4's with sound again.
>>715606725>this kill the corpofag
SKG gives me hope we can finally start trying to heal gaming.
Keep crying corposhits.
>>715606334Not a single technical mumbo jumbo, just legal stuff, that's no fucking devs kek.
>>715605909of course. you think this guy in OP and that romanian guy know anything about videogames? they know its a literal non-issue for the members of parliament and will gladly pass it to look productive and good.
>>715606725>you didn't buy the game you bought a disc>actually the disc isn't a product and can be taken away anytimewhich is it, shill?
>>715603348>/a/ doesn't have this problem because it isn't infested with underage newfagsIs this a joke?
>>715606695This. What a ridiculous scare tactic. "We simply will not release games in one of our most profitable regions."
>>715601198 (OP)>Digital products, like physical goods, must be treated with respect: as something that endures, not simply disappears.mfw SKG also leads to the end of SAAS
>>715601319i thought you were better than this, miyeon-poster
the tiny shred of respect i had for you is now gone, back to reporting all your posts
>>715606604It's about always online DRM in vidya - it's very important to vidya and therefore this board
Streamer getting raped and that yielding attention is a good thing. Every little thing helps.
>>715606725Just buy from GOG. You get the offline DRM free installer and that is pretty much forever.
>you have a copy of the game in your GOG library for as long as GOG exists>you also have several copies of the game on storage mediums of your choiceFor me GOG is the future for owning videogames.
>>715606881>no online features for europeThis is very telling, that these retards know fuck all about development. All souls games have online features, yet can be taken offline and be played in a reasonable state. Why do these morons think not killing your game and having online features, are mutually exclusive?
>>715602250>businesses aren't your biggest enemy
>>715606906>you think this guy in OP and that romanian guy know anything about videogames?I think even the most basic drooling retard understands that corporations are pushing planned obsolesce to fuck people in the ass. Shit like this has been needing to come to a head for a while, and these companies need to be slapped down.
>>715606847>MP is still alive
>>715603065>Jason, oh, excuse me, "Thor"
stop replying to the koreaboo retard
like forever, this nigger pollutes the site since years
>>715606334The arguments about licencing or having to reengineer the game are retarded. Any law wouldn't apply retroactively and you'd know from the start you will need to have an end of life plan so you'd design it in a way that makes it possible to repackage and you'd negotiate licences that allow you to do it and the providers of those tools or services would have no choice to agree if they want any market share in game development.
Also maybe the newest live service slop doesn't run off server.exe but people are vastly overestimating how difficult is to set up muh multiple services. You probably don't need all of them in the first place, battlepass is not updating again anyway. There's still installer packages, config and start-up scripts and written procedures. Anyone with a bit of relevant experience would be able to figure that out with those tools. Unless, and it's a real possibility considering their track record, game devs are retarded and have no idea how to run a large system like that and it's all undocumented voodoo magic.
>>715606971According to shills, GOG is going to kill small indie developers.
>>715606971you cant own a video game
>>715606990Also the argument is just simply retarded when you consider it's about Always Online stuff.
>Europeans will have a version that works offline and this is bad
>>715606845Pretending how? You could always just go back to youtube if all you care about is eceleb drama instead of video games.
Also will this retard cut it out already with his timeouts? His efforts are obviously wasted and we are trying to have a proper chat here.
>>715606949>>715606967Why? Because I don't want to look at offtopic garbage? I don't care either way because I live in the EU and I will always draw the long straw in civil matters.
>>715607045Can't be worse than you.
>>715606937I hope his will be the first crack on the road of dismantling the current (probably illegal) status quo.
>>715607037>is impossible for users to create their own servers>you need 99999999 dell optiplex tied with tape to make them work
>>715606937I love this actor, he and Brendan carried those movies so hard.
If it turned out that as a consequence of SKG europeans would have unrestricted offline access to every vidya, but americans still had to put up with always online bullshit I'd die of laughter
>>715602250right, you should let corpos go unchecked with no regulations whatsover. Remove previous regulations while you're at it, i'm sure that'll make the world a much better place.
I think that the game publishers can still win this if they just totally shift into considering gamers as the dumb sheep cattle as they are and ride that narrative into court. "Even if we specifically say that the game is no longer supported, if a consumer has trouble they're still going to cry that our game isn't working and we'll suffer reputational damage. With how mentally damaged the average consumer is, this system simply isn't economically feasible." That's how I'd play it.
>>715606725>the disc is essentially temporary license to access to product, revocable at any time at the discretion of the developer.*VERY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2019/770/oj
>Digital content or digital services can be supplied to consumers through a single act of supply โฆ The distinctive element of this category of digital content or digital service is the fact that consumers thereafter have the possibility to access and use the digital content or digital service indefinitely.โ>Where the contract provides for a single act of supply โฆ the trader shall ensure that the consumer is informed of and supplied with updates โฆ for the period of time that the consumer may reasonably expect given the type and purpose of the digital content or digital service โฆโ"single act of supply" in less legal terms is "one-time purchase", ie, anything where you just pay a lump sum and receive your product (as opposed to a subscription where you're expected to continuously pay for continuous access to the service)
under EU law, 'digital licenses' are not considered products or services, but their own third category
that said, it's extremely obvious that if you paid a lump sum for a video game that game would fall under the legal definition of a "single act of supply" and the seller can't just revoke access whenever they feel like it
>>715607050Can one even call themselves an engineer if they can't solve a problem in something that hasn't even made it to the design stage yet?
I just want all online games to do it like Deep Rock Galactic.
>all content is playable offline
>your saves are kept on your side, feel free to delete them if you want to start over for any reason
>all season content is in the game, off-season events are just less common
>you can disable season content or switch the game to any of the past seasons
>cosmetics earned just for playing the game
>multiplayer is still there, but you have full support if you want to play solo
No need to be greedy FOMO jews
Theres also a game called Mycopunk that came out recently thats like DRG and fully supports offline play
>>715607269Isn't that the thing about being able to uninstall Edge in Windows?
>>715606487NOOOOOOOOOO
YOU CAN'T EXPECT DEVS TO REMAKE THEIR GAME TO FIX A PROBLEM THEY INTENTIONALLY ADDED TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE IT MADE THEM MORE MONEY
>NOOOOO you can't expect multiplayer games to continue forever!! It's impossible!! They have no choice but to be shut down!!!
>>715607280>Slandering your customersThat's a fast way to get shoved out with a boot in your ass.
>>715607269What's funny is all these devs are crying about how having a sensible sunsetting option would be more work. But I could 100% see them creating two SKUs for Europe and the rest of the world, just so they could ensure maximum fuck-you-in-the-ass for people.
>>715602250This idea that government is bad and companies are good is so fucking retarded. Look up what Nestle is doing in Africa and you'll quickly realize what horrors the government is protecting you from. In Sweden we have tried privatizing a lot of services, such as schools, trains, and the post service, and it's all gone downhill. Same thing can be seen in the UK. The private sector can be relied on to refine consumer products like phones or cars but they shouldn't be allowed to take control of essential services.
>>715607157what retarded conclusions do you have to draw to believe that legislation about video games is not related to video games?
>>715607304This should be law and a standard for any gacha game.
>>715605054Kill yourself newnigger normalnigger larper
>>715603825A non-zero chance is still a reason to fight, to continue fighting, and to refuse to back down.
Das it mang. The fight isn't for the cause, sometimes it's just the reason.
>>715607097You confuse owning the videogame's IP with owning a videogame. Fun fact in the EU you can resell digital goods like videogames(but you generally have to sell the whole account). Not just the physical videogames you bought.
>>715607060I am 100% convinced that the shills/shitposters don't play or buy videogames. I do buy videogames so i know that the shitposter/shills are full of shit.
>>715607294>under EU law, 'digital licenses' are not considered products or servicesThat is true, but the EU court of justice had set a precedent by ruling that supply of software is still considered a supply of goods, so they definitely still lean on that side of the interpretation of the law. Which is a considerable boon for SKG as a movement, knowing that courts too would be in favor of this and had been in the past.
>>715607352It's a well known fact that when you make a game, you first design it as an always online game, and then scale it down to an offline singleplayer game. Think of the poor indie devs!
>>715607345Again, gamers are sheep and none of them are going to read a court document. The only people who would ever be informed are those who watch Asmongold who already are "ambivalent" towards the gaming industry but still slurp up all the slop they serve out regardless. Treating your customers like idiots is a tried and true strategy in media and it works.
>>715607207That would be an amazing snowball effect.
>Artists work on games>Gamers come together to fight for their rights>Artists see this>Artists come together to fight for their rightsI wonder who would be next in the cycle.
>>715607304>Theres also a game called Mycopunk that came out recently thats like DRG and fully supports offline playI was not expecting to ever see a game like DRG again. Guess I'll check that out.
>but the board is not about things related to video games
Actually, it is. Primary and secondary threads are allowed. Only tertiary is offtopic
But you're of course only pretending to be an oldfag so you don't remember that
>>715607280>Even if we specifically say that the game is no longer supported, if a consumer has trouble they're still going to cry that our game isn't working and we'll suffer reputational damage.I hate that there's actual historical evidence of this.
>>715607496Bro, shut the fuck up about ecelebs. Nobody cares who is leading the charge, it's enough that it's happening.
>>715607496>It's related to video games but this board is not about things related to video gamesSure it is, that's like saying you can't have a thread dedicated to a genre of video games. This is a thread about live-service video games. It belongs on the board just as the thread about horror video games.
>>715607503To be fair it's more like a shooter than a mining game but seems pretty inspired by how DRG plays (go into a region, complete tasks while fighting waves, pick up shit, extract when done)
DRG devs are also releasing a shooting-focused spin-off apparently
Abyssus also seems like a kind of DRG like co-op game
>>715607294What this legislation does
>If you buy a game, download DLC, subscribe to a game-as-a-service, or use a free game that tracks or monetizes your personal data, then this Directive applies.>It ensures the game must meet contractual standardsโquality, updates, compatibilityโas reasonably expected.>It provides remedies (e.g. fixes, price refunds, contract termination) if the game is faulty or fails to deliver as promised .What it does not do
>It does not grant you ownership of the game in the sense of intellectual propertyโitโs still a license-based model.>The Directive governs your contractual rights and obligations, not intellectual property rights per se.>You don't gain rights to distribute, modify, or legally own the underlying IPโthose remain with the publisher or developer.*EXTREMELY OVERWHELMINGLY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
>>715607496the vast majority of discussion in this thread isn't about pirate, it's about the initiative
and you're wrong, this is the board for everything related to video games; we have threads about video game OSTs, concept art, developers, etc all the time
obviously new laws related to publishing video games is relevant to the board about video games
really unfortunate learning you're a wannabe janny, i thought you were just some guy posting his waifu, which was far more respectable
>>715607648Man, playing Scout feels like I'm playing Ultrakill sometimes.
>>715607564I totally made that scenario up for the sake of contrarianism, what's the example?
>>715606248>I WURKED AT BLIZZ FOR 7 YEARS>I KNOW HOW 2 CODE FOR DAYZZZZ>Y U GAIS AINT ON MY SIDE?Go back to kiwi ferret fucker.
>>715607362extremely retarded post
the freer the market the freer the people and the more innovation and improvements there are
>>715607652All of this is correct. The "loss of IP" is just a bogeyman anyway, NCsoft did not lose their IP after giving away City of Heroes to the playerbase ot manage, nor did Bethesda or ID lose the Doom IP after publishing the first game open source.
>>715607648>DRG devs are also releasing a shooting-focused spin-off apparentlyIf you mean "Rogue Core" I am intensely skeptical. The format of "roguelite elements" is NOT why I liked DRG. I don't want to vote on upgrades and have some sort of meta in mind with perfect strangers, I just want to play class based digging missions with lots of enemy and gun variety.
>>715607652not wrong because the retard I replied to said
>temporary license (...) revocable at any time at the discretion of the developer.which is wrong
no fucking shit you don't own the IP, that doesn't mean john ubisoft can metaphorically snap your disc in half just because he's decided he wants you to buy the next game
>>715606248>but I haven't found a new job yet that has similar pay or benefitsThis is how you know it's made up, vidya devs have shit pay and benefits. Basically, the vidya industry gets away with underpaying people because OMG I GET TO WORK IN VIDYA!!!
>>715606294no, i feel like i've already seen it
>>715607537These threads are deleted left and right, just because you have a bored janny babysitting it doesn't make it law.
>>715607565>>715607642>>715607706It's gamergate round two, an embarrassment to watch regardless of its intentions.
You all act like reddit children.
If I wanted to read retards drool over something in an echo chamber I'd go over there but I'd much prefer if you just returned where you belong.
I don't want to be a janny, they are all newfag cancer as clearly presented in this thread.
Miyeon is not my waifu either.
>>715607837I'm taking three. One for me, one for my wife and one for my son. We are going to come gather at the late evening glow-party after the mass, it's going to be great.
>You WILL make your server code available
>You WILL make it run on Linux because Windows does not guarantee infinite lifetime
>You WILL expose all your proprietary code in a plain executable that everyone can reverse engineer
>You WILL have problems with hackers on your new games, because they now know how the server code works
>You WILL put GIANT stickers and warnings on the game telling that this will only last two (2) years
>You WILL see your sales dropping because nobody will buy a game that will supposedly only last two (2) years
>I WILL play that shitty game of yours "The Crew" that came out 10 years ago
>NO I do not want to play "The Crew 2" which is EXACTLY like the first one, but only better
>I BOUGHT THOSE PAIR OF SHOES 10 YEARS AGO AND I EXPECT THEM TO FUNCTION LIKE NEW - FOREVER - AND EVER - AND EVER
>he actually is too much of a newfag to remember when they made the primary/secondary/tertiary ruling
lel
Make sure your European videogame friends know about this initiative!
>>715607883Don't forget your toothache for the kids.
>>715607891Yes, or you'll be arrested.
I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crewโข (2014)" BY Ubisoftยฎ
>I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crewโข (2014)" BY Ubisoftยฎ
I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crewโข (2014)" BY Ubisoftยฎ
>I WANT TO PLAY THE "The Crewโข (2014)" BY Ubisoftยฎ
NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!
I AM GOING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF IF I DON'T
AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT.
I WANT TO PLAY THAT DEPRECATED ONLINE ONLY GAME NOW!!!
I MEAN FUCKING NOW!!! I BOUGHT IT FOR LIKE $10 ON A FUCKING SALE
I AM ENTITLED FOR IT FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.
>>715607950Every household should have these, that there thing is a God's gift to mankind!
uh oh, chuddy's having a melty
Jesus fuck
>killing live service games
>takes time/effort/money to build EoL builds
>hurts indies
>hurts profit margins
>hurts DRM
>hurts dev choice
>hurts (insert X, Y, or Z argument here)
None of this matters. C'mon now, repeat after me people: None of this matters. It doesn't matter one iota to consumers like you or I.
All of these arguments, suppositions, deflections, talks about "integrity", talks about "choice", talks about money. All of it.
Not. Our. Fucking. Problem. That's for developers and publishers to sort out. Not us.
>>715607837a little radiation is good for you
>>715608007I WANT TO PLAY "The Crewโขยฉ (2014)" BY Ubisoftยฎ
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crewโขยฉ (2014)" BY UbisoftยฎI WANT TO PLAY "The Crewโขยฉ (2014)" BY Ubisoftยฎ
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crewโขยฉ (2014)" BY UbisoftยฎNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOOOW!!!!
>>715607876>can't defend own argument>goes back to calling on-topic video game discussion thread gamergate 2You're not cut out for this, you're really not.
>>715608021It's a great feeling.
hmm
md5: 15632e9b08699eeea8631a46032c068a
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So tell me, how is this regulation supposed to affect indie developers?
>>715608079>avatarfaggot only seeks attentionnews
ACHTUNG
>XER CLITTY IS LEAKING
ACHTUNG
>XER CLITTY IS LEAKING
ACHTUNG
>XER CLITTY IS LEAKING
ACHTUNG
>XER CLITTY IS LEAKING
>>715608119Uh........ IT JUST IS OKAY
>>715607907>>715608079I simply go by what threads are deleted by mods and these are, so they are fair game.
They don't care about the rules since apparently I'm the only offtopic poster in this thread so why should I?
Just following their lead having fun posting something I like.
>>715608119All the indie devs making live service games have to allow people to make private servers and apparently that costs hundreds of millions of dollars
>>715607950This makes the hair on my back to stand up. I am thanking god every day that i live in 2025 and not in 1925. God bless regulations, god bless every product needing to adheare to a set of standards.
>>715607891>I BOUGHT THOSE PAIR OF SHOES 10 YEARS AGO AND I EXPECT THEM TO FUNCTION LIKE NEW - FOREVER - AND EVER - AND EVERlil bro compared a perishable good to 1s and 0s that don't wear out, nah chat he's so cooked fr fr :skull: :skull:
>>715608018it's amazing to see how a goverment entity wants to regulate something and fucking immediately there's corporate screeching how it'll ruin the industry, give customers a choice, nobody wants that, the prices will skyrocket! etc etc.
and then the motion passes, corpos have to bend the knee and you know what happens? absolutely nothing.
every single fucking time.
>>715607362>In Sweden we have tried privatizing a lot of services, such as schools, trains, and the post service, and it's all gone downhill.Same in Germany. Trains got privatised, prices soared but they're also late a third of the time.
Privatising the postal service is also retarded, cause you still need a state owned service that's obligated to deliver to literally anyone in the country even at a cost cause they live on some random island far away from anyone else. Private companies can choose to limit their services to be more profitable, but that's just forking profit away from the state owned business, making it most costly in the end. Privatising necessary infrastructure is just plain retarded and fuck anyone advocating for it.
Reminder that the guy who derails BBC threads by talking about his obsession with getting cucked by futas supports SKG.
You wouldn't want to side with someone like that, would you?
>>715608119know a large number of independent developers making always online games that require external servers to run?
>>715608212I wouldn't know anon, I don't go into BBC threads
>>715608198>Trains got privatisedOh yeah, didn't company(s?) install killswitches in your trains so they lock up when they go near a 3rd party repair shop?
>poos are now so desperate to derail they try to imitate resident shitposters but out themselves when they completely fail to mimic the shitposters mannerisms
Love to see it.
>>715608197Name ONE that pertains to the gaming industry.
ONE that fits into your agenda.
Don't worry, I'll wait.
>>715608212wtf, I love skg even more now?
>>715607973this but unironically
>>715608212i'll ally with literal niggers, trannies, furries, nazis and every type of degenerate imaginable
if it means fucking over corpos
>>715608212Based futachad dabbing on nog lovers.
>>715608119>So tell me, how is this regulation supposed to affect indie developers?Same way it will affect AAA developers. Difference is that indie developers mostly make singleplayer games or outsight give people the ability to make dedicated servers.
>Project Zomboid(DRM free and you have the ability to make your own server)Indie deveopers already coply with SKG 99.9% of the time.
>>715608018Developers/publishers want you to feel sorry for them becuase they have to do "extra" work, conventiently igorning the fact that customers PAID MONEY for these games. Video games aren't a charity. I don't care if it's more work for you, I paid so I better be able to play.
HAHAHAHAHAHA HIS CODE
HIS CODE IS SOO BADDDD
20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE
10 YEARS OF DEV TIME ON THIS
HAHAHAHQHAHHAHAHAHAAAAA FUCKING GIVE ME A (YOU) HAHAHAA
>>715608323so you want to side with degenerates just to fuck over the good guys? really?
>>715608214That's why I ask, how does this affect indie devs? GaaS is something that is
>expensive to create>expensive to maintainSo out of reach of an indie dev to begin with.
>>715608278that was in poland, and yes, a train manufacturer did that
there's a whole talk about it, the hackers who did it break it down. look it up, it's very interesting
>>715608212Huh, I knew that poster was based, but I didn't know they were THAT based...
>>715608119THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO JAIL UNLESS THEY DO WHAT WE SAY
WE'RE GOIN TO ARREST THEM
WE'RE GOING TO KILL THEM IF THEY RESIST
THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO JAIL IF THEY DON'T DO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAY
JAIL. JAIL JAIL JAIL!!! KILL THEM IF THEY RESIST
KILL THEM NOW FOR QUESTIONING THE PARTY. KILL THEM. KILL THEM NOW.
DADDY EU PUNISH THEM HURT THEM KILL THEM THEY DONT WANT TO DO WHAT I SAY. I'M DELEGATING IT. DADDY I'M DELEGATING THE VIOLENCE. DADDY DO VIOLENCE FOR ME.
JAIL JAIL JAIL!!!!! KILL THEM IF THEY RESIST!!!! KILL THEM DADDY KILL THEM! KILL THEM DADDY KILLLL THEM!!!! MAKE OUR VIDEO GAMES FOREVER TOYS OR FUCKING DIE. DADDY WILL KILL YOU. DADDY KILLLLLL THEM NOW!!!!!!
>>715608343wheres the bulge
>>715608363>corpo rats>good guysHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA
>>715608347Yeah, no shit. Hence it's not our fucking problem. We (consumers) have one our first step forward.
>>715608416This artist didn't include it, just imagine it is there, you can see the apple right?
>>715608416Black hole tuck
>>715608374Maybe after this, we should mobilize Stop Killing Trains. The principle is the same and train autism is even more powerful.
I just like watching corporations and whiny devs sweating.
>>715608283people used to work 6 days a week, there was no minimal pay and no paid vacation, no public healthcare and no work regulations, all this stuff is enforced by goverment because there's no way in hell a greedy corpo jew would care about his employes out of kindness
>>715608469Train autists are a fucking dangerous breed, a guy that burnt down KyoAni and killed like 36 people was one.
>>715607713Gigantic's Steam launch.
They were behind on bugfixing because they had to make the game work with Microsoft's garbage storefront in order to get some extra funding when things were getting desperate.
Once the Steam launch rolled around, they had a huge issue with the game being outright unplayable if you had less than a certain amount of RAM, I forget the exact amount.
They made that issue known on the store page when downloading that it would not run if you didn't meet the RAM requirement, and even if you did download it regardless, it wouldn't even try to run and tell you that you didn't meet the requirements and refuse to do anything.
Regardless of all the warnings, the game got review bombed by people complaining that the game wouldn't run for that reason and tanked its review average.
>>715608415The goal is they just obey the law. But sure! Lock em up!
>>715608574>because there's no way in hell a greedy corpo jew would care about his employes out of kindnessLook up Ford vs Dodge
Not that I disagree with your point that we're currently at a point where we need the government to unfuck the situation, but it's an interesting greypill
>>715607767Governments around the world are basically responsible for every major discovery in the last century.
>wind, solar, and nuclear energy>gps, radar, and the internet>computers, microchips, and graphical interfaces>satellites, jet engines, and spacecrafts>ai, robotics, and drones>vaccines, antibiotics, and mri scansEvery project that is high risk and requires long-term investment is only possible because of government projects. Corporations aren't willing to take such big gambles.
>>715608709Ford was a rare breed, men like him, or like Banting were once in a generation souls that wanted good for humanity. Both were fucked over by those that they thought shared their views and their legacy trampled and then turned into tools of exploitation and extortion.
>>715608574this is a communist myth manufactured in the late 20th century. there is no reason to think this is the case
the janitor is NOT immune to a concentrated fentanyl solution dabbed on the doorknob to the concrete shoebox that he lives in
>>715608603Why do people download things without looking at the requirements and then complain that it doesn't work?
>>715608740holy shit dude....I use this as in insult often but this time I'm using it seriously - please read a fucking book and learn something
>>715607876>I don't want to be a janny, they are all newfag cancer as clearly presented in this thread.how can you not see the irony in this statement
>i don't want to be a janny like the ones who let things i dislike get posted, i want to be a janny who deletes things i don't like
>>715608815nta but because requirements aren't always accurate as devs often skim on it and just put whatever machine they were using as minimum.
I say that both as a dev and as someone gaming on Windows 7, I've played plenty of games that were supposedly W10+.
>>715608469That's more a right to repair issue than anything else, but should absolutely get pushed. Imagine deliberately introducing a remotely executeable vulnerability to your infrastructure. The very idea sounds treasonous already.
>>715608863cope and seethe
WAIT I AM NOT DONE LAUGHING
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA GIVE ME YOUS HAHAHAAHAHAHA FUCKING CMON HAHAHAHAHAHAAA JEEEESUS CHRIST HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
this nigger initiative is for niggers and should not be entertained.. let it die
>>715608863Why don't you just explain how he's wrong? He cited tons of examples of his claim, but all you can do is call him dumb?
>>715608212>man of exquisite, impeccable taste has common senseWhat's weird about this?
>>715609062he didnt cite anything, he just greentexted some words with no citations
>>715608948I don't want these threads to be deleted since I can funpost in them but if my posts are the only ones gone because they are offtopic that seems a bit unfair.
If you are a newfag that signed up to uphold the rules then don't just pick and choose.
>>715609062I can explain how i fucked your mother
>>715609131>brainrot kpop nigger can't comprehend why jannies would focus on the ban evading spamming faggotYeah I'm not surprised you're too retarded to figure that one out
>>715609149Sure, you can make up all kinds of things. But it won't win you arguments.
>>715609292>brainrotWell, I'm not surprised that you are a phoneposter.
If you think this is the proper way to moderate the website you are part of the cancer killing this board right up their with the jannies.
>>715609382I'm sorry they didn't accept your janny application because you were too retarded.
>>715609390First one is one the house, champ ;)
>>715609382>kpooper thinks phoneposters name their images
>>715609450do jannies even get paid, why do they even apply for that shit
>>715609450I never applied, I don't associate with newfag cancer.
Who would even want to moderate this website? I wouldn't have time to funpost best girl Miyeon!
>>715609540You are too retarded to turn off auto capitalization. It's too obvious.
>>715609121ancaps once again proving they are the biggest retards on earth, even the founding fathers of capitalism like Adam Smith realized the importance of government regulation and progressive taxation based on marginal utility
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For the love of god can this ban-evading schizo get a real hobby.
>>715608181Well EU does mandate that shoes should work for at least 2 years.
>he's been ban evading, backsrat moderating, shitting and pissing his pants for almost four hours now
I can't believe i'm gonna say this to someone on 4channel, but get a life, dude.
>>715609762Is that why my only pair haven't shit themselves yet? I thought they were doing pretty good. Guess Americans are feeling the benefits yet again.
>>715609904You've been here the whole time too, take your own advice.
I still don't get the backseat moderating thing.
You are very upset about that.
>>715609695I love the ancap comics
>>715609992this
>>715608948 was my (the guy you think you're replying to) last post
i haven't replied to you since
as it turns out you are not well-liked
>>715609904He's like PirateSoftware but it's just a random /v/igger
>I'm never backing down!
>>715610090I only get this many replies in these SKG threads, I'm usually ignored.
Curious!
>>7156034131000 subs costs like 5 dollars if you can find the right clickfarm. Most likely less if you buy in bulk. If it can be botted, a poo, chink or a slav will sell it.
Now add that the guy is a self proclaimed "manipulative mastermind" and it's suddenly not rocket surgery any more.
>>715606318keep crying about this on-topic thread
>>715610171in every other obvious shitpost thread i've just thought
>oh, it's the miyeon guy, hahaonly in this one did you make it clear you're doing this to try to make jannies delete the thread you don't like, no different from people spamming cado ass or pizza
wannabe janny shitposting is truly the worst form of shitposting
>>715606182I know you've posted that pasta before but your babbling is retarded. they are sold as a product and thus will be subject to relevant legislations. if they were a service then they would fall under other laws that might be even more detrimental.
The post pointing out that I only get this many replies in SKG threads is instantly deleted while my other posts stay up.
Double curious!
>>715610338I'm doing the same thing as every other thread but if you are going to be rude to me why wouldn't I act the same towards you?
Like I said I don't want offtopic threads to die since then I can't post best girl Miyeon, I just really hate this newfag moderation.
Watch this post go poof within a minute!
>>715610338Anyone who has a clearly recognisable form of offtopic shitposting that only posts in threads they dislike is doing this.
Same as cado. Same as gayspammer. Same as choppy willy in the AI slppa threads. Same as CP spammers. Same as the scaly gay fat snake avatarfag.
their goal is to make the janny think "Oh no not this faggot again... ok I'll ban him and then I'll check out the thread he was posting in"
I am like 95% sure of that.
>>715609945There's a 2 year mandatory warranty on all goods. Also if you order something online there's 14 day no questions asked return window in case it turns out it was not what you expected.
I love consumer protections.
>>715610536nah, hungarian faggot is doing it for attention only, he feeds on (you)'s
i'm so glad this faggot got slammed
good thread bros
>>715610792literally sat on by the jannoid right up to page 10, I love to see it
>>715610536I don't want newfag jannies to ever think about me. I don't want to kill threads. I'm simply posting something I like in threads where I'm not bothering anyone who would want to discuss video games.
I just banter with people trying to match their energy, if I don't get replies then I don't post.
It's curious how these offtopic reddit tourists can't stop replying to me. Really makes you think!
>>715610536If anything, they tend to make off-topic threads last much longer than they should because jannies aren't willing to encourage that sort of behavior.
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>xhe is still at it
>>715601198 (OP)>M dashes>"touches upon">groups of three>starting a sentence with a connective>"something that x, not just a y"This is fucking chatgpt lmao
>>715608469>>715608959they also had a piece of code that could remotely stop the train using a gsm signal
which is a fucking national security problem if you ask me
>>715601198 (OP)>Thank you for your message and for bringing the European Citizens' Initiative "Stop Destroying Videogames" to our attention. Your question touches on a fundamental issue in the digital age: what does ownership even mean when digital products can simply disappear?
>>715610865Imagine whining about corpos killing games and then turning around and dickriding janitors.
>>715610970More cute asian girls for me to post, I don't see the problem unless I get singled out like in this thread.
>>715611021I've been around far longer than scripts marking (You)s and I'm not trans.
Not sure about the point of your post.
>>715608280Always a happy surprise to see my flyer in the wild lmao especially since you guys helped me design it
>>715611083This would be a good plot point in those action conspiracy movies. Instead of the bad guys having men on the inside or hiring hackers to upload a killswitch to their firmware, they just have it ready and explain that companies do it themselves to maintain influence.
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PLEASE take your meds, sis.
>>715601198 (OP)Sauce? I cant find it
>>715611456I'm not on any, unlike you I don't have brain problems you meme spouting child.
>>715611165I actually remember giving advice about the wording some time ago
based flyer-anon :)
