Thread 715881238 - /v/ [Archived: 263 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:30:05 PM No.715881238
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It's funny how even the most bare bone basic bitch RPG elements such as elemental damage, status effects etc would have significantly improved FFXVI.
Well I will praise the game for being fully visually consistent from start to end, this being most likely the result of the game running on a in-house developed game engine making pajeet UE assets unavailable.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:06:04 PM No.715883343
>>715881238 (OP)
Still wondering why SE released a game so striped of normal RPG mechanics. It seems a rushed title just in order to capitalize on the Final Fantasy brand.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:16:16 PM No.715883938
>>715883343
I wouldn't call it rushed - the boss battles, music and story had some obvious soul and care during it's development. They didn't spend enough time in making a more RPG like combat system though and maybe should have shifted resources there instead of some of the inane side quests.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:18:03 PM No.715884027
>>715883343
>>715881238 (OP)
Squeenix is retarded and honestly convinced themselves people don't like rpgs despite all evidence to the contrary.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:19:07 PM No.715884080
>>715883343
they thought normies hated RPG mechanics for some reason despite that never being true
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:20:13 PM No.715884135
>>715881238 (OP)
Elemental damage, status etc. are lazy and annoying mechanics anyway, I loved how it didn't matter
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:20:13 PM No.715884138
>>715883343
It felt like a ported mobile game, I can only assume it was meant to be a mobile game.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:20:44 PM No.715884165
>>715883343
Probably just them wrongly reading the market and thinking young people (the biggest market) wouldnt like RPGs
That's they're going for more action oriented combat like KH,XV and 7R
The problem is they're too retarded thinking that a DMC-like game would be fun if the RPG aspect was minimal
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:21:16 PM No.715884195
>>715881238 (OP)
>"Just add X"
>Never think about how it's going to work with what already exists in the game
>yeah just add elemental damage even though you're forced to use the eikons' elements you have currently equipped
You're like those huge retards that say "just change to turn based", even though what XVI did extremely poorly wasn't even gameplay related.
Fucking retards.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:22:21 PM No.715884267
>>715883938
Exactly, it's streamlined to death. Press X to win. The design philosophy is ass, too. I am old, so I guess the kids for which I make this piece of media are old, too
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:23:54 PM No.715884353
>>715884165
>and 7R
7R has way more rpg elements than XVI though, to he point they don't even seem comparable.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:23:56 PM No.715884357
>>715881238 (OP)
>Do damage to do more damage
>Not even a fun little pace breaking animation that chunks them down or anything, they literally just fall over and let you spam combos against them
Not only the shittiest mechanic in action games, but the worst version of the shittiest mechanic, and the combat system is centered around it as every other potentially cool thing is optional
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:24:00 PM No.715884362
>>715883343
>>715884027
>>715884080
>>715884138
>>715884165
Yoshi P is just a hack. XIV has been simplified to the barebones as well. Jobs used to be more complex back in the HW days. He simply thinks normies can't handle a bit of complexity and it makes less sales.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:24:10 PM No.715884375
>>715884195
dont you see something wrong when you get no status effects when youre hit by bad breath
or that fire attacks do nothing to a bomb
the FF aspect of it is lost there
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:24:15 PM No.715884385
>>715883343
>>715884080
They've been trying to make FF action ever since SE took over.
Yoshipiss was just honest and didn't want to pretend
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:26:09 PM No.715884508
>>715883343
They listened to dumbass fanboys that hate JRPGs and like action games
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:26:37 PM No.715884527
>>715884353
My point is that I think all the devs at squeenix got a directive to make their games more approachable, by making them action-oriented.
The 7R director probably still wanted RPG elements heavily baked into the combat, but the XVI dev probably didnt care much for it and focused more on the action aspect instead.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:27:34 PM No.715884585
>>715881238 (OP)
SE are retarded, look at this new game they are releasing

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1598230/KILLER_INN/
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:31:47 PM No.715884831
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>>715881238 (OP)
I was able to refund it in steam. shocked by how it's just a shitty action game with a devil may cry world size.
square needs to shut the fuck down already.
They do the opposite of what their fans want for fuckin 20 years now.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:48:34 PM No.715885860
>>715884831
What kind of clown is this? Y is he gae?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:50:43 PM No.715886000
>>715885860
it's disney's favorite actor
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:56:49 PM No.715886454
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>>715881238 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:23:46 PM No.715888187
>>715886454
Rpg is fine, +0% OK is not.
>>715886000
>disnay
Lmao even
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:39:58 PM No.715889246
>You couldn't control other party members
Tales of Destiny lets you do so and that's a 1997 release...
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:47:15 PM No.715889684
>>715889246
controlling other party members is too complex for modern gaymers
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:48:52 PM No.715889780
>>715883938
They perfected the FF battle system with XIII-2, but that kind of thing can't work with hallways, which were going to be necessary if they wanted to get the game out in any semblance of "on-time" and have it look anything like it was necessary to be on PS5. They also wanted to avoid the issues with XV where they spent like 5 years trying to adapt the KH system to FF and couldn't get it right. So they just brought the DMC guy in to make DMC with special cooldowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfSAGeVpYfk

99% of XVI's design decisions are in conversation with previous games. They were trying to make the safest shit possible to draw in the FF-curious, at least on the surface. Underneath, it's XIV levels of "'membah FF?"
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:49:57 PM No.715889868
There are plenty of strange decisions too.
>Barely any interaction whatsoever with the main crew
>Here have this one end game quest
>Spend hours upon hours fucking around with Lubor.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:50:38 PM No.715889924
>>715889780
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfSAGeVpYfk
Turning FF into DMC really pisses me off
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:50:58 PM No.715889950
>>715884831
I can't tell if that's Pedro Pascal or Bam Margera.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:52:38 PM No.715890058
After XV I really just wanted a FF game I could enjoy again, but when I tried to play this it just filtered me right from the start. I don't think I got more than two hours in before I went
>This aint for me, chief
and noped out. The Primal fights look very cinematic from what I have seen on youtube, but the gameplay just isn't my thing at all.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:53:56 PM No.715890178
>>715889780
>They were trying to make the safest shit possible to draw in the FF-curious
FF7 sold like 12 million whereas FF16 sold 4 million. FF isn't an unknown brand. There's no reason to draw in new audiences. It already had a huge audience who's good will they've lost over the years with their constant garbage
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:54:23 PM No.715890202
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>>715883343
The real reason is the team who made the game (Creative Studio 3 formerly Creative Business Unit 3) have never made any other game than FF14 before and thought they could give the single player mainline audience the same treatment they gave their MMO audience, that is strip everything out which makes an FF game an RPG and then insert MMO pacing fetch quests and somehow people would be happy.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:54:52 PM No.715890243
>>715889868
Story must have gone through multiple heavy rewrites
>The undying is this super secret society of phoenix worshippers who saved him
>Yet during the attack its Wade a regular Rosarian soldier trying to help Joshua escape
Such a asspull
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:55:48 PM No.715890310
>>715884831
>They do the opposite of what their fans want for fuckin 20 years now.
20 years? That can't be right
>Chains of Promathia launched in 2004
>FFI to FFX:CoP was 17 years
jfc it has been 20 fucking years since Final Fantasy was good. Final Fantasy has been bad longer than it was good
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:57:04 PM No.715890396
>>715890202
Yeah it turns out MMO players have very low standards.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:57:30 PM No.715890424
>>715881238 (OP)
I know itโ€™s his first vidya role and he still does a real solid job but Ben Star really gets outshined by Ralph Ineson
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:57:31 PM No.715890427
>>715890058
>The Primal fights look very cinematic
Yeah, it's a true PS5 game alright. Too much focus on le epic cutscenes and spamming buttons during them
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:00:15 PM No.715890621
>>715883938
All they need to do is make Stranger of Paradise again.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:00:19 PM No.715890628
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>>715881238 (OP)
>status effects
FF16 does have status effects and they are actually more powerful in this game than across the board in the entire series (not a high praise because they are DOGSHIT in FF most of the time)
Will O the Wisps is a 4 hit damage negation shield, Ramuh skills have "downer" state that extends the periods enemies lie on the ground after being flipped or launched and his eikon skill acts like a dot damage source + time slow alongside a few other abilities like Bahamut's homing orb ability, Shiva has possibly the most bullshit crowd control effect in the entire series with her freeze, enemies have several buffs (the notably bullshit one is berserk, which negates stagger state until the boss finishes his combo). The game also has numerous sources of projectile negation and ranged/melee parry that are way stronger than your typical Reflect/counter in turn based FFs.

RPG fluff is not what FF16 needs, at least not in the way brain damaged fanboys want it. It needs to get rid of the cooldowns and replace it with a Wo Long esque resource management system for eikon powers (a simple ass mana that functions like Wo Long's spirit), give more eikon skill slots including a dedicated ult slot and make all accessories as fun as the DLC one so the systems would help the player expression instead of getting in its way. It's a fantastic foundation for future action titles, but they need to improve it.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:05:17 PM No.715890962
>>715881238 (OP)
I found it hilarious that the new God of War has more gameplay mechanics and build variety than new Final Fantasy.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:18:22 PM No.715891845
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>you may kneel
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:21:28 PM No.715892027
>>715891845
Everything about him was so fucking weird he'd probably browse /d/ if he was real
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:26:01 PM No.715892320
Final Fantasy has peaked demographically. Birthrates in the developed world are plummeting for every new fan they believe they receive they lose 3 older ones.
Throw in the fact that generation z and alpha don't care much for singleplayer games.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:27:49 PM No.715892441
>>715891845
i hate how they did his fight. he was definitely weird and unhinged but they thought making him laugh like an anime cartoon with autotune was a good idea for his fight. completely ruined the buildup.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:38:41 PM No.715893209
>>715892027
Is it autism?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:48:50 PM No.715893869
>>715890628
You're posting in a thread full of people who either didn't play the game or played the demo and got the rest of their opinions from streamers who played on easy with assist accessories on. I agree with everything from your second paragraph. Ability cooldown was probably my biggest gripe with the game. A dedicated slot for ult abilities would have been nice as well.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:49:31 PM No.715893913
>>715884585
Are they making a fucking among us clone in 2025?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:49:52 PM No.715893943
>>715893209
mommy man mindbroken by ultima
grim
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:49:54 PM No.715893945
>>715890628
Aren't they as basic as always?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:53:43 PM No.715894216
>>715893869
I'm replaying the game on pc with a cheat engine table that gives you 2 more skill slots and a mod that significantly ramps up enemy health and damage values and it's like a different game. A certified proof that FF16 had a solid foundation that needed just a few gameplay adjustments on top.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:06:23 PM No.715895131
>>715894216
>A certified proof that FF16 had a solid foundation that needed just a few gameplay adjustments on top.
Yeah. I could see the potential, but having EVERYTHING tied to the cooldown slots except your basic 1-2-3 and a shitty Stinger made it annoying to experiment with combo building.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:09:22 PM No.715895342
>>715881238 (OP)
FF16 is really good
not as good as the PS1-PS2 era
but still really good
and much better than 15
better than 14 post-endwalker
and now I know I can be a bit more excited for the next FF
when it releases in 2040
Until then I'll enjoy the seething this game causes you queers on /v/ and r/games
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:15:14 PM No.715895725
>>715895342
>when it releases in 2040
This is the real problem with FF after X. Having 6 games in a row that half the fanbase hates wouldn't be as big a deal if we were getting them every year or two.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:15:57 PM No.715895778
>>715894216
I feel like the combat team didn't have faith in the average consumer of Final Fantasy games to go all the way with their combat. Just look at reviews of the DLC's where they had boss fights that required a little bit more out of the player than the base game.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:19:31 PM No.715896012
>>715895342
I think 16 is their first competent production all the way since 12. It also has a shitload of themes that resonate with classic FF titles, anyone thinking it's not a final fantasy but some GoT fanfic never touched it. It just fuses it with elements of Vagrant Story.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:30:34 PM No.715896746
What's sad is Stranger of Paradise is more of a Final-Fantasy action RPG than this. Think about it.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:32:46 PM No.715896916
>>715881238 (OP)
This specific ff was fan service for ffxivfags. They said Soken and Yoship are working on it and that was enough for them to buy it. The game is just ok, one of those games you play once and just move on with your life. If it didn't have the ff name, it wouldn't sell anything because the story itself is not something unique. Expedition 33 had a more interesting setting.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:34:35 PM No.715897031
>>715895342
>Better than 14 post-endwalker
That's not a high bar, you know.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:40:48 PM No.715897468
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>>715895342
>FF16 is really good
Nah, it's a Reddit game. You need to go back.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:41:24 PM No.715897510
>>715896746
nobody cares about that meme souls slop
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:48:36 PM No.715898019
>>715895342
It has good characters, le Game of Thrones and adult themes are actually done well even though there are obvious animu weeabo stuff (overreacting, hours talking about much feels) but they shouldn't have castrated all the gameplay, both combat and exploration. Wasted potential.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:49:07 PM No.715898058
>>715897510
Game is still more of an RPG than this trash, idiot faggot nigger.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:49:39 PM No.715898094
>>715896746
It also managed to implement a party system and magic.
The lack of magic in XVI is criminal.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:51:48 PM No.715898248
>>715898094
>>715896746
FF13 is better than FF16
>Better cast
>Party gameplay
>Equipment
>Elemental resistances
>Magic
>Paradigm system
>Crystarium
Sad how it's more of an FF game than FF16
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:54:02 PM No.715898404
What the hell was up with Ultimas Sanbreque favoritism since all of it didn't matter whatsoever since he was in control of everything?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:54:50 PM No.715898463
>>715896746
Strangers of Paradise things it has that FFXVI doesn't
>A party system
>Different classes
>An extensive gear for each class
>Multiple move sets for each class
>Classes are FF lore accurate
>Magic
>Elemental weaknesses
>An extensive loot system for gear and weapons
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:54:58 PM No.715898468
>>715881238 (OP)
Played this game with difficulty mods and even they can't salvage all these fundamentally retarded design choices. Most of the time, there is a battle with the camera, not with enemies. Bosses do not pose a threat even with increased health and attack, cause their attacks are easy to predict and dodge/parry windows are very generous. The only source of problems in the game with mods are squads of regular mobs + large enemies with a will bar: a regular mob can come from behind and stab you with a couple of attacks, and this is the only thing you should care about. The pathetic cinematic camera, however, turns crowd control into a literal torture. As a result, you fight not so much with enemies as with a cinematic camera. The simplest algorithm for destroying these aforementioned squads is to group mobs with leviathan ability and destroy them en masse, after which - switching attention to a massive enemy with a will bar, which alone does not pose any threat.

Fundamentally, the combat system in the game is broken, it should be changed in many ways. Bad camera. Predictive enemy behaviour. Limit on the number of active abilities. Balanced for a toddlers.
The game is not challenging even with diffculty mods lol. I dunno what else to say.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:56:01 PM No.715898538
>>715898248
For me its XVI>XIII>>>>XV
The only reason XVI edges out XIII is because XIIIs battle system only works with a full party and the game spends 20 hours splitting the damn group up multiple times.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:56:20 PM No.715898563
>>715881238 (OP)
>fully visually consistent from start to end
My turds are visually consistent from start to end what kind of "praise" is that
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:57:21 PM No.715898632
>>715898538
For me
Kid with down syndrome >> You
based on that opinion of yours
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:58:17 PM No.715898702
>>715898563
Jeet assets are a thing these days, seeing a game where npc don't look like they were pulled from some game 2 gens backwards was a breath of fresh air
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:58:22 PM No.715898713
>>715898248
Dirge of Cerberus is better than 16. And I say that unironically. At least it has cool characters and bad ass monster designs. Plays just as poorly as 16 though
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:59:22 PM No.715898790
>>715898632
Oh it's the XV jeet , good evening saar.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:00:38 PM No.715898886
>>715898248
>FF13 is better than FF16
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree.
Final Fantasy is indeed cooked.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:04:11 PM No.715899164
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>>715898886
People will shit on FF13 for having corridor gameplay, while FF16 has FF14 linear corridor dungeons with circular arenas for every boss.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:07:15 PM No.715899410
>>715899164
>>715899164
FFXIII has no cities to speak of. so there's no calm before the storm whatsoever. Thow in a plot that fucks with you also jumping around between split parties for 20 hours.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:08:43 PM No.715899518
>>715899410
FF16 has some tiny ass towns with NPCs repeating the same stupid 5 seconds animation over and over. As well as repeating the same text
>GET YA ITEMS ERE
Dont pretend that it's better.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:09:33 PM No.715899597
>>715881238 (OP)
I don't understand why Squenix thinks no one likes jrpgs. Persona and Yakuza are like the two biggest franchises in Japan.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:11:13 PM No.715899729
>>715899518
The cities are by no means great but its better than what XIII did.
FFXIII-2 is genuinely a more enjoyable game than XIII.
Lightning returns just didn't click with me at all, also Hope annoying the ever living fuck out of me with his dialogue he's like a protoChadley in that game.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:11:33 PM No.715899751
>>715899597
Expedition 33 made SE seethe
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:12:41 PM No.715899840
>>715899597
Square-ENIX always confuses me, when they say action games sell better what action games are they talking about is it Call of Duty sales?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:16:09 PM No.715900084
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>>715899751
Yeah but gamers didn't want Turnbased game, I know this because I have only developed an MMO for PC oh and I'll also release my FF action game for the PS5 and not on PC until a year and a half later.
I'm a genius visionary. I am YoshiP.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:17:49 PM No.715900190
>>715900084
Yoshida is a hack. He was a literal no one until he saved XIV by copying WoW
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:19:18 PM No.715900297
>>715899840
Yeah it's weird they made a DMC clone when, until DMCV, that franchise was never a really massive seller, I don't think it was even more popular than Final Fantasy was at the same times.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:23:43 PM No.715900624
>>715900297
I think they've convinced themselves that part of FF's identity is to innovate with each game. Which, to be fair, it was. Problem is they don't innovate they just copy trends now.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:25:48 PM No.715900742
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>>715881238 (OP)
they already had the real time combat system down for rebirth. Why even bother with two different systems entirely? rebirth combat is the most fun ive had in gaming in a long time
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:28:49 PM No.715900950
>>715898463
>Strangers of Paradise
It's an awesome game
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:29:10 PM No.715900971
>>715900742
Too bad Square-Enix completely flanderized FF7 with all the garbage they released after it combined with the game being UE making jeet assets a thing.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:31:16 PM No.715901130
>>715881238 (OP)
PRECISION DODGE X3
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:33:34 PM No.715901294
>>715900624
Was it? I mean I think FF's most successful run in the 90s from SNES to PSX they weren't totally overhauling and changing all the gameplay every single game. That only began in the PS2 era for some reason.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:34:44 PM No.715901394
wtf
wtf
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>>715900742
>rebirth combat is the most fun ive had in gaming in a long time
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:36:15 PM No.715901506
>>715883343
CBU3/CS3 are just bad at making games.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:43:07 PM No.715902006
>>715881238 (OP)
Is it normal for me to have not died once in mid game? I remember dying three or four times in ffxv ten years ago
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:46:16 PM No.715902254
>>715902006
I think in the entire game I only died about 5 times and at least 4 of those were in the Leviathan boss in the dlc.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:48:16 PM No.715902423
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md5: 42a810d2d47ed4a530cdfaaea26df733๐Ÿ”
>>715881238 (OP)
FFXVI was 10/10 peak high fantasy kino.
Much better than unrealslop redditbirth desu
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:53:43 PM No.715902828
>>715896916
What's funny is how much advertising for E33 was "this is what Final Fantasy could be!"
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:55:03 PM No.715902926
>>715896012
Correct.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:56:01 PM No.715903004
>>715899410
The entire penultimate level takes place in a city. You don't have time to smoke a bowl, cieth coming up right the fuck now. Ruin them in the head. Ruin them in the head.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:58:30 PM No.715903160
>>715900742
>rebirth combat is the most fun ive had in gaming in a long time
I acknowledge that people feel this way, but it's bullshit. Remake combat was tighter. Rebirth feels like a clusterfuck. It's half the encounter design and half the number of options thrown at you, some with zero applicability until much later.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:58:41 PM No.715903180
>>715903004
Stop beating around the bush it wasn't a visit to a city where you just fucked around with the locals for a bit.
It's like saying you visited major urban centres in FFXVI when you destroyed the Sanbreque crystal.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:00:04 PM No.715903303
>>715902006
I dunno how you could die in XV, other than the fact that you have to keep Noctis specifically alive. Otherwise, potions are plentiful.
Replies: >>715903604
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:02:16 PM No.715903481
>>715903180
>Stop beating around the bush it wasn't a visit to a city where you just fucked around with the locals for a bit.
If you say so. My visit to Eden was chill. I enjoyed hearing the perspectives of the cowering civilians. Then there's also Nautilus, Hope's House, and Oerba.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:03:49 PM No.715903604
>>715903303
I was 9
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:12:43 PM No.715904353
>>715883343
You and all of the people replying you have likely never played ffxiv so thats why you donโ€™t understand why the game is so devoid of rpg mechanics. FFXIV suffers from the same problems
Replies: >>715908280
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:32:39 PM No.715905926
>>715890202
FFXIV is not really an MMO so its more so a problem of them just trying to make ffxiv but single player (and if im being honest ffxiv is already single player). Ff12 is the single player mmo experience. FFXIV is more of a weird mix of cooldown mmo combat with like moba progression feel. Everything is figuring out the bosses telegraphs and acting accordingly rather than having actual rpg mechanics and elements in whatever you are fighting.
I mean look at how they handled gear, at first during 2.0 and 3.0 there was a semblance of rpg feel to the game and they continued stripping even more of it as they kept raising the level cap. Its why you get weird situations where wearing higher ilvl gear makes you hit weaker than lower ilvl gear from the previous patch. Its like if every 10 levels your stats just reset with the exception of levels 1-50
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:54:35 PM No.715907632
>>715895342
>and much better than 15
while I agree, 15 is the worst game since 13 so it's not really a flex
Replies: >>715908180
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:00:46 PM No.715908130
>>715898713
I agree it's more fun to play and is better, but
>Plays just as poorly as 16 though
can never be true, because in Dirge you can beat everything with circle-strafe, it has enemies immune to bullets, some enemies fly out of bounds and you have to wait for them to come back, so you can kill them to progress and you have to choose between gaining experience or buying bullets at the end of levels.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:01:26 PM No.715908180
>>715907632
FFXV is the worst of the worst, I recently beat on my FF2 and I had a better time.
Every time I look at FFXV i think why couldn't you be Versus XIII you piece of shit
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:02:47 PM No.715908280
>>715904353
A vocal part of the FFXIV playerbase demanded the RPG mechanics be streamlined to make endgame content more seamless for minmaxers.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:03:15 PM No.715908327
>>715881238 (OP)
>the most bare bone basic bitch RPG elements such as elemental damage, status effects etc would have significantly improved FFXVI.
No.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:06:53 PM No.715908640
>>715881238 (OP)
Being less Hollywood would have improved it significantly more.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:07:12 PM No.715908671
>>715881238 (OP)
this was my dads first game to play in decades since finishing Mario 64 in 1996 and he loved it. squeenix made a game accessible to boomers
Replies: >>715908776
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:08:26 PM No.715908776
>>715908671
you dad is gay? sorry anon
Replies: >>715909089
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:08:42 PM No.715908798
>>715884362
The thing is, the Jap devs believed the west was too "stupid" to like anything not extremely dumbed down, even back in the day, and Gen X/older Millennials basically had to bang on pipes for years and years to correct their thinking

Now they're back to thinking kids in the West are just retarded again, but the zooms aren't as active in proving them wrong (they might not even BE wrong, this time)
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:12:20 PM No.715909089
>>715908776
he loved Jill so no heโ€™s not gay. he tried to get her into a corner to get a closer look at her and was annoyed the game wouldnโ€™t let him
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:14:28 PM No.715909241
>>715909089
back in the day it used to be "my dad would beat the fuck out of your dad" and now this. sad.
Replies: >>715909504
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:15:59 PM No.715909351
I enjoyed XVI's story more than any FF since (original) VII.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:18:00 PM No.715909504
>>715909241
heโ€™s 70 not 30. he wasnโ€™t a good person growing up Iโ€™ll say that much.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:18:47 PM No.715909562
>>715883343
They should have given the weapons different movesets