>Nintendo tried to make Metroid appealing to Japan
>fails miserably and gives up, marketing the series to the people who actually like it
>best sales the IP has seen in years
How did Metroid (unlike a certain other Japan-bourne franchise) escape the trap of trying to force it on the domestic audience?
why did you give samus a rat nose
>>715910439 (OP)>tries to appeal to Japan>constant emphasis on Samus being a frail woman>emotionally dependent on Japanese chad They just can't fucking help themselves. Don't let Metroid get to westernized either or they'll buzz one side of Samus' hair off and make her a lesbian.
>>715910647It's the fresh meme. Mousamus.
>>715910647it's secretly an mlp post
>>715910439 (OP)Sakamoto killed all chances of us getting a 3rd person 3d Metroid series that can coexist with Prime and the 2d games, a real shame
>>715912998Right? I've always wanted that, but now the entire concept is tainted. Sucks.
>>715911951How does she even eat that burger?
>unlike a certain other Japan-bourne franchise
Which?
>>715912998What would be the best way to even make one of these? How does the story look? The dialogue? Most important the gameplay?
>>715910439 (OP)I kinda hate how far Dread swung in the other direction. She's just a generic badass space marine now. She doesn't have a single subdued or introspective moment, like her sparing the baby Metroid or saving the animals. Even with Quiet Robe it's another "badass" moment where she says she's gonna get the job done, and when he dies the game instantly moves on. Samus is a seasoned bounty hunter, but she also has a sensitive side. Other M focused too much on the latter, while Dread only has the former.
I think killing Raven Beak was a serious mistake. I didn't want him to overstay his welcome and get overused, but I also think he was too much of a badass to die like a wimp the way he did in his only real appearance.
It's a bird! No, it's a Metroid! No, it's a female human! No, it's Samus Aran!!
>>715914538>Most important the gameplay?Other M but not shit. It's a good foundation, it's just that everything else was designed poorly.
>>715915021Don't worry, we got clones in this universe.
>>715910439 (OP)>gets upset about the thing that killed her parents but not about the thing that didn't have anything to do with her parents dyingWoah...
Other M is dogshit, but people who talk about it are mostly bandwagoners who don't know shit about Metroid.
>>715915021I feel the same about the hunters in Corruption. These guys were way too cool to waste like that.
>>715914539Fuck off fag her character in Dread was completely based and justified. Here you are wanting it ruined with emotional crap.
>>715915157I wouldn't be surprised if Raven Beak had some kind of backup clone but at the same time it feels like a copout they probably wouldn't pull or else they just wouldn't have killed him in the first place
>Raven Beak: Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.
>>715910439 (OP)The Dread Varia suit is fucking spectacular. I enjoy the Light Blue of the Power Suit as well, but the Orange contrasts with the White just right.
There's no way Prime 4 will be good
>>715915894The Dread suit is such a great example of a redesign done right. It's bold, it's clean, it keeps the spirit while being something different. I love it.
>>715912750I fucking love bird samus
>>715916602I love fucking bird samus.
>>715916506It'd be better if Sakamoto hadn't forced whore heels into the Samus design language.
>>715911951>No spinoff where dark samus moves in with samus as her wacky roommate and gets into sexual mishaps with her Missed opportunity
>>715917942The Dread suits have like 4 inch heels disguised by the bulk of the armor and the top plate hiding how her foot is at an incline.
>>715914090Phazon gives toothy mouths wherever it's needed
>>715917927I fully expect Dark Samus to return someday as a "normal" humanoid metroid, having had all the phazon purged from her body.
>>715917927I really hate the idea she looks like Samus inside.
>>715914539they overdid it with her forced badass moments in dread. Imo prime 3 did it the best
>>715918125Oh, I get it. You were fooled by the ankle guards. I gotcha. If those were actually heels, she wouldn't be able to kneel like she does in the game and art.
And the Metroid suit proves they're not heels anyway. You're just crazy.
>>715916823>>715917114Bird women are the most beautiful kind of women. They deserve our love and protection, even the badass bird women who don't need our protection still deserve to be happy.
>Mega Man doesn't sell
>Metroid doesn't sell
Do people just hate heroes in power armor suits with gun arms? Why? I can't think of a cooler concept for a video game character.
>>715918684I'm only into it with cartoon logic, because she can't smooch otherwise
>>715919212Metroid sells well enough for a relatively niche series. It makes a reasonable profit and gets to continue just fine.
Capcom just fucking hates Mega Man.
>>715919212Now that you say that, I'm surprised Capcom never tried the "metroidvania" approach with Mega Man. Considering the entire appeal of the series is "eat the boss's powers" it really does seem like it'd fit like a glove. The closest we ever got was what, ZX?
A damn shame.
>>715919212>2 million copies of MM11 & 3 million of Dread is "not selling"Tf? Can you even comprehend 1 million people, let alone multiple million sales???
>captcha: 4swag
>>715919490By the time the Metroidvania phenomenon took off (late 00's), Mega Man was basically dead. Last classic game had been a decade ago, X series was finished, and there were some spinoffs straggling along. Around that time was the whole indie and retro revival boom, so they were concerned with MM 9 & 10. It kinda just passed them by. Not that they couldn't do it now, but it'd seem late to them, I think.
>>715919490>Mega Man metroidvaniaOh fuck you, anon. Now I want that, knowing it will never happen. Fuck.
>>715910439 (OP)They're going to kill it just to be spiteful
>>715919646>Not that they couldn't do it now, but it'd seem late to them, I think.Yep. Corpos and their investor masters can only think in terms of trends. The idea of just making a video game because people might enjoy playing it is lost on them.
>>715919493>Didn't even meet the bare minimum 5 million salesNGMI
>>715910439 (OP)What do you fellas want from the next "2D" Metroid?
>>715919257Yes she can. Bird nibbles and french kissing are possible with a beak that isn't pelican-tier
>>715919490We will get this with Mega Man X Corrupted. Lets just hope it doesn't trigger Capcom's lawyers to order a cease and desist.
>>715920074Personally, I'm hoping the setting of Metroid 6 is Excelion's headquarters. Just a massive corporate complex full of for-profit abominations.
>>715919490I think ZX kind of did, but also not very well.
>still have not played it, though I own a copy
>>715920074Ideally: no more chase sequences, because I'm done with that, after two games.
Also Samus getting powered up to her usual peak much sooner in the game, and then going a step beyond that. At the very least, don't make me collect missiles, morph ball, and charge beam again. Just let me have them.
If you want a crazy gimmick, maybe two playable characters (Samus, and Sylux?), and the map is laid out a little differently, depending on who you pick. I'm sure Metroidvanias have done that shit before.
They should go above and beyond on bossfights and really elevate them to Treasure tier action set-pieces, and the final phase of the game should be gaining full freedom of movement, and basically turning into a shmup. That'd be cool.
>>715920707It speaks to how the games are designed that Metroid has never had any "alternative" playable characters. I think that every single Castlevania in that style has had at least one outside of Circle (which just had alternative playstyles instead). I'm just not sure that Metroid is built for the kind of thing, even CV often has to cheat in a couple moves for the alt characters so that they can actually explore properly. Metroid is too intentionally designed for each ability with its passages and secrets, I think it'd need to be completely overhauled for another character.
The only game that could've gotten away with it is Fusion funny enough, if they let you play as a rogue SA-X or something and cut out the info rooms.
>tried to tap Namco Bandai to make a Prime game
>the build was so bad, they had to start over, hand it back over to Retro, and publicly apologize
Metroid is a western franchise. Simple as.
>>715920074I've always wondered if there's something to be done with the Feds. Or if focusing on them and their politics would be messing with things that shouldn't really be expanded upon.
I'm a Gundam fan/Star Wars fan so I love the idea of Terrorists and Confederates breaking off from the bigger "Rule", the whole political drama with suits (please recommend me more settings (movies, books, games etc) with this) talking it out, backstabbing each other etc.
As a Resident Evil fan maybe I could see something along the lines of someone wanting to replicate Samus' mixed DNA and creating abominations.
>>715920074I want some of this goodness.
Look like the slides, spider balls, and grapple beam techs naturally flow with the speed booster sprints.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hef-o7Svw1Y
>>715921392I figure all you really need is a solution for getting through tight spots, and grapple jumps, which seems easily done enough.
Maybe the secondary character could have a move where they turn to gas and pass through grates, which would mean they bypass morph ball areas, but have whole other parts of the level they have to play through.
Come to think of it, you could just make Dracula the secondary character. There's no law prohibiting anyone from doing that
>>715920707Wish for a second playable character granted, however it's REMEMBER ME
>>715921846Holy fuck, Planets sure has come a long way. Reminding me a lot of the Reboot tech demo, but I know it's probably inspired by Dread more than anything.
>>715910439 (OP)dread is the most dogshit metroid, there hasn't been a good metroid since super
>>715920707>maybe two playable characters (Samus, and Sylux?)This would be great if you progress through the game as both of them and the actions of one affect the other.
It would be interesting to have optional things that you can do as Sylux that would obstruct Samus's play, next to stuff like needing both to complete puzzles, like releasing monsters in a room that would otherwise not have them.
Next to the collection clear score you'd have something like a clear score for Sylux for how many things you had Sylux do to block Samus' progress as an incentive.
>>715919490>rerard never played the zero series
>>715920074i don't. they need to stop further tarnishhing super's legacy with all these dogshit non-metroid "metroids"
Orange 2 piece suit when?
Or do you prefer the blue?
>>715922734Okay, so what do you want to see from the next Kid Icarus game?
>>715922896nothing, the first kid icarus sucked ass, i haven't played kid sakurai but it looks boring as shit, don't get why retards rave about it, probably the same kind of faggot assed zoomer niggers who rave about dread and prime and fusion and zero mission, and the shitty demakes of 2
>>715923031I don't think video games are for you anymore.
>>715922108Fuck Samus be looking smooth
>>715923073videogames aren't videogames anymore, they're gay ass handholding linear exposition-driven meme horrofaggot chase sequences and qtes, fuck modern "videogames"
>>715922874Samus looks good in all sorts of things.
>>715923031You sound like someone that stopped gaming after SNES/Genesis because there were too many buttons, or maybe you couldn't wrap your retard mind around 3D movement and the analog stick scared you as a result.
>>715923134https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykkW0OXWfMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2PYlelQSek
It's very smooth. Here's about twenty minutes worth of footage.
>>715923465cool projection retard, mario 64 and quake are two of my favorite games, and i'd been playing 3d games since before you were a glint in your daddy's eye
>>715912998>>715913893just play dead space 1 & 2 don't play the remake though
>>715923447I agree
>>715923734Bro got older but didn't grow up, sad!
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>>715922874Black, please.
>>715923863how utterly ironic, coming from a literal child like you
>>715923734>projection>Literally proved him rightOkay grandpa it's time for bed
>>715914418I assume he means Sonic
>>715923997The super look should definitely be revisited
>>715924031But anon i'd been playing 3d games since before you were a glint in your daddy's eye
>>715923863>1:33>100%If this is glitchless I want to know how
I'm in the mood to play a metroid game which game should I play that's not super or the prime games?
>>715924353Hyper Metroid.
>Metroid Prime 4
>Have section where you play as Sylux
>It's horror
>psychic Samus as not-Alma is haunting the place coming to fuck your shit up
>>715924185Save scumming so you can memorize your routes and perfect your movement. Save, play for 15 mins, see how fast you can get through, reload then improve. Also, skipping power ups that will be easier to et with powers later on. Learn double missile tech and perfect timings on bosses. You can probably brute force a 2hr 100% file without advance movement or sequence breaking
>>715924421I don't play fangames
>>715924680Just as well since it isn't a fangame. It's a ROM hack. Big difference.
>>715924591that sounds miserable
>>715920074I'd actually love for a remaster of Super Metroid that upgrades the pixel art and boosts the fps even higher as well as improves on controls but I do not expect we would get something like this.
>>715912750>>715916602>>715916823>>715917114>>715918684There's so much fanart of Samus being part bird, which is fun, but absolutely no fanart of Samus being part Metroid.
The absolute madlad turned herself into the literal title character of her own franshice, and yet vampire squid Samus gets no love?
>>715925527Careful what you wish for.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/124964785
>>715925527Abomination Samus a cute. CUTE!
>>715925941even hotter than normal
>>715925819>>715925941Neat. Yes, cute even, but none of these got fangs. Even if she has to have the metroid teeth on her arm like the fusion suit, I wanna see her sink those teeth in and suck the energy out of someone or something.
>>715925941Doesn't Prime 4 presumably take place before Super? That psychic stuff wouldn't be "recent".
>>715926513I'm glad you're here, can I get a lore check on this scene?
>>715910439 (OP)Dread was fucking awful though.
>>715926420It's generally hard to post vagina dentata on a blue board.
What about something more like Vampire Hunter D (or the wraith from Stargate Atlantis, if you're less cool).
I really want to see the Namco build of Prime 4. How much of an absolute trashfire was it that Nintendo had to publicly apologize?
>American and Spanish devs are the ones keeping Metroid relevant
>>715927689It's not like Namco can't make good shit; Pokkรฉn Tournament, New Pokรฉmon Snap, Smash Ultimate, Katamari Reroll.
Was Metroid Prime just a bad fit for the studio? It can't have been as bad as Next Level Games, right?
>>715910439 (OP)samus is fucking wasted on nintendo, just give the IP to the koreans already.
>>715927583There's also the simpler look, of course.
The next Metroid will bring in Samus brother from the manga whose fate is unconfirmed unlike their dead parents
>>715928034I knew there was a picture of her showing off her fangs, I couldn't find it.
Did find this one.
Im not a zero suit coomer, but i don't like the precedent dread set up by skipping showing suit-less samus, the series goes years between games so its nice to see glimpses of samus
>>715927872Apparently it was some kind of experimental B-team studio? Which, putting a big name IP on that as their fist project is already insane.
>>715928036>mangaMagazine. You're thinking of Blood of the Chozo.
>>715915021now you've reminded me of the daftpatriot raven beak pictures
time to go jerk off again
>>715914490We need this back. Dread was mid without it
>>715928481I'm pretty sure none of the Metroid games have ever featured a nude Samus as an ending retard.
>>715928418Don't forget that Retro Studios was pretty unproven when they made Metroid Prime, and succeeded in spite of the bad conduct of the founder Jeff Spangenberg.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tuc8X9qKePo
>>715920707>>715922378>People thought Sylux would be the big villian but he's just Metroid's Arbiter
>>715910439 (OP)Japan likes dread though.
>>715910439 (OP)>Nintendo tried to make Metroid appealing to Japan>>fails miserably and gives up,Who told you other m was made for Japan?
Not as pronounced, but cute.
And it's barely Samus, but I guess if you have a thing for teeth, this Venom suit looking thing has it covered
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/130621941
>>715923571DMCA will hit before 1.0
I hope the devs have a backup plan like AM2R
>>715928561I mean, fair. God, that Spangenberg guy was a proper piece of shit. Dude was a legit cockehead using company servers to store the porno shoots he was filming in his house.
>>715928668It was certainly made with more overt Japanese ideas in mind.
>>715928981>with more overt Japanese ideas in mind.Like...?
>>715910439 (OP)I dont want another dread, that game had mid music and visual style
>>715918346It was over correction from the reception to other m, its not that bad though
>>715929416Maybe anon can provide detailed examples, but the short version is, have you ever seen the comparisons of JP box art versus western box art for things like Kirby? Like that.
Isn't it about time for a new metroid by mercurysteam
One more fangy abomination for the road.
>>715921998Accepted. Higgs was the only good part of that kusoge.
>>715930832Was he though? He was just some guy who was inoffensive at best.
>>715931028Which would make him the only good part, yes.
What does it actually do?
>>715929728Anon, that doesn't mean anything for Metroid.
>>715926513It's definitely before Fusion at least, though I'm expecting them to fit it in that time frame between 1 and 2 to keep tradition
>>715931162We don't know, and I hope we find out soon. That Direct Nate was gassing up better be real, and even if it is, there's a non-zero chance it's just a Partner, so RIP that 2025 window in that case
>>715934443There's been too many proper Directs lately. The cosmic balance must be restored, it's definitely going to be a Partner Showcase.
>>715934480I don't mind a partner direct. I mean it's not like we can't have Nintendo IPs show up there especially if they're developed by a third party.
>>715910439 (OP)>Barney>sheโs fighting kraid Who the fuck drew this
>>715934480I hate how right you probably are, but since Nate said he doesn't know for sure what kind of Direct it is, I've just accepted it's a Partner, if it's even happening at all, what with the Pokemon Presents next week. I'd love to be proven wrong; hell, I'd love for Prime 4 to get its own Direct, but I don't see them doing two game-specific Directs so close to each other
>>715934821Retro's owned by Nintendo though, so no way in hell it'd be in one of those, which sucks, because what the hell are they waiting for at this point? I would ask if they're really trying to sell us on wheelchairs for the mouse controls before the first-person game, but then I remember, oh yeah, this is Nintendo. They're never normal
>>715914539Nuance is dead these days
>>715935000Hey, people said they wanted smaller cheaper games, beggars canโt be choosers fag
>>715925941Is Samus just some kind of super hybrid nowadays? Whenever I look into Metroid, it feels like somehow managed to get some new shit into her DNA with every other game.
Could probably give other genetic clusterfucks like the MC from Bleach a run for their money nowadays.
>>715918253>>715918297I can't decide if I like the idea of her being goop in a suit more or if I like her being a facsimile of samus and maybe learning from her more
I think either could work well
>>715919891It's bizarre that "make good game" is bad simply because it's not EXPLICITLY growth-oriented
>>715935426At the very least, she's majority human, with two types of chozo and then metroid in her.
After that, you've got whatever effects eating X has and being exposed to phazon radiation has done to her.
>>715935713But she can do that without it
>>715934998it's referencing barney the dinosaur...
>>715928615that would be the best way to make him a memorable recurring character, and they need more like him in that case.
They should definitely reuse the other hunters from corruption though
>>715928353It shows it when you die.
Never played a metroid game in my life
Which one would you recommend me to play
>>715936642all of em in release order
you can skip the game boy one, though
So how long until we get Samus with actual X DNA inside of her somehow? We cant go more than 2 games without some weird shit being added to her DNA, my guess is next game after Prime 4 now that the X is back into the main picture.
>>715936642Zero Mission
Prime
Super
Dread
Those are the big four IMO. Though really, the only Metroid game I flat-out wouldn't recommend is Other M
>>715936756Can't have X DNA just yet, gotta get that Ridley DNA in there first
I just want an internally developed metroid, no more outsourcing.
>>715937242Nobody at nintendo knows how to make a metroid game anymore, all the people who did are dead or retired
>>715918253What would happen if Dark Samus and X Samus fused together when they were at the peak of their power pre-full transformation?
>>715917927LESBIAN KICK!!!
>>715920394Play it, it's a solid game.
The first game has a secret Omega Zero Boss fight
>>715937091You meme about it but how comically shitty the federation is I could totally see that happening.
>>715937295This, why would you want an in house game when the outsorced ones are so good?
>>715935502Doppelgangers who are just the same character but maybe with darker hair or darker skin are retarded, overdone, low effort tripe. We already know Dark Samus isn't just a human inside her suit since we saw it happen, it is an incredible waste of a premise to just have her (The prime metroid) congeal into merely Samus 2.
Besides, that was probably already true with SA-X.
>>715936756Wasn't that literally all of Fusion? It's gonna be hard to keep when she's got its literal predator as a defined part of her physiology now. In theory any form of X she gets just gets assimilated or consumed by the Metroid.
>>715910439 (OP)>Metroid: Other M SamusCorrection
ENGLISH Metroid: Other M Samus
>>715921452Its so frustrating that we went through like 15 years of forced errors because Japanese pride autism.
>>715938984I know, but itd be funny if it happened, somehow, I dunno, theres literal bird magic in this universe.
>>715921846Jesus, I haven't been keeping up with Planets too much. Is this why the Novus planet is still disabled? I was already impressed enough for them being like, the ONLY Metroid thing in existence that has enemy sync
The Grapple Beam coming out of the Arm Cannon is dumb, and it should be how the Prime series handles it, with it coming out of the left hand. Gives it something to actually do.
>>715940008This also lets her use the cannon more freely, so you could have action sequences where she has to swing WHILE shooting with her free cannon. So yeah, it's not a bad change. I'm sure it was done the old way for the sake of saving them from having to draw unique frames with her free hand extended.
>>715940117But it coming out of the arm cannon is still a thing in Dread. Sakamoto is a stubborn old bastard!
>>715939018On the other hand, Japanese pride ensures the series maintains a certain flavor that sets it apart from western games (for the better).
>>715910439 (OP)Other M fundamentally fails to understand what all the other games communicate to the player non-verbally, that Samus is a silent, angry mutant badass, because they thought that because the text was minimal in the previous games they could just asspull any personality they wanted for her without realizing that context already gave her a personality, and that by turning her into a crying anime princess with an electra complex they were betraying 20 years of player expectations.
It's the same reason why franchises that go woke tend to fail, they abandon their audience in favor of some kind of promised land of fat dykes who will pay $70 just to support some half-baked political ideology.
One thing I don't understand with some fans is. The need to have Samus be some kind of messed-up and heavily scarred woman underneath the armor. She isn't, and why would she be in the first place? I don't get it.
>>715940271Considering the parallels of Doom Guy and Samus, I can only imagine the shitshow of the response to a Metroid: Dark Ages equivalent.
>>715925941ey bby wat dat blu hand do
>>715940008It's a beam
Beams come out of cannons
>>715912750>>715914202There also seems to be an abnormally large amount of TF art for Samus specifically. Is it due to a combination of factors?
>sci-fi shenanigans>part bird and whatever else the devs add>heroine>zero suit is ultimately latex-adjacent>cross-pollination with other IPs, like in the case of Smash>>715939132NTA, but probably? The dev has kept adding in stuff for years now and has also experimented with changing up some fundamental gameplay things lately. Novus's last build was at the end of 2021, the dev has certainly came a long way since. I honestly wasn't big on it but it was a good engine demo, regardless an overhaul with all the new stuff could have a lot of potential.
>>715940438They're of the mentality that "hardened = scarred". Hell, I know someone who likes to draw her with scars, so I expressly had to say I wanted a pic of her without scars once
>>715940586It just makes more sense for it to come out of the left hand.
>>715940646But she wears a suit of armor that takes all the hits for her, that she summons like a magical girl. She wouldn't have a scan on her body or get fucked up. It's like these people don't play the games...
>>715940759Exactly, it's just as bad as giving her a shaved head, because oh, there's no way all that hair could fit in the helmet
>>715940759>that she summons like a magical girlGod I never thought of that.
>>715910439 (OP)>metroidWas always shit.
>backtracking platformer is so cool, bro!No, thanks, nigger, its not cool at all.
>>715940850>>715940759Either that or a henshin hero
>>715917585>>715918125Don't be such a feminist.
>>715920074Is this the guy who instantly jobs to Samus in the new game?
>>715940850You're just figuring this out now? Samus is a scifi magical girl, and the suit is part of her. It runs off her willpower and shit. Hell, the damn thing can repair itself as stated in Dread. By the time you get the Gravity suit in Dread, it looks more like its old self than ever.
I don't mind Other M's attempts to flesh Samus out as a character.
It was botched, sabotaged by western localizers, and also partly just a bad idea from the start...
But there ARE themes to Samus as a character to explore. She's not just a "silent badass".
>>715940378>all the other games communicate to the player non-verbally, that Samus is a silent, angry mutant badassI always thought the complaints about her characterization in Dread were strange. Of course she's going to be a stoic badass who responds to everything by charging her arm cannon, bitch has entire planets included in her kill count.
>>715940535I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
>>715941095I dont know dude, but when I play Metroid and I kill aliens while running away from a literal space zombie while fighting space dinosaurs I dont think in Sakura Card Captor or Sailor Moon.
Dread overcorrected on Samus' characterization from Other M.
>>715941105Samus has shown emotions before, but didnt give me a monologue about it. She closed the eyes of a dead GF Trooper; she didn't kill the baby metroid, despite everything. She tried to save her fellow bounty hunters in MP 3 and showed anger and desperation for some of them due to her failure.
>>715941260Need to watch more Magical Girl anime, my guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutie_Honey
>>715917927Post the real Dark Samus and not obvious "artist never played Prime 2" artwork.
>>715941105Yes, just take a look at Metroid 2. She saw that the baby Metroid imprinted on her, therefore it didn't pose a threat to her, so she took it to Federation scientists to ensure it wouldn't be a threat to anyone (and could even be life-saving, as is apparent with the Metroid vaccine)
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>>715941456>Cutie Honey Based pick, my dude
How were you supposed to know?
>>715941613Man...this one button makes me run faster when I hold it down. I wonder what happens if I run across the crumbling bridge!?
>>715941456>but didnt give me a monologue about itSuper Metroid at the beginning? Zero Mission at the beginning and before the Space Pirate ship? Fusion in general, as a concept?
>>715941613By remapping the controls right on bootup and seeing that there's a run button. If you play default controls in Super, you're weird. Or a crab
>>715941482In Metroid II and Super she has a subtle femininity.
Not a huge fan of Fusion with the Adam AI, but frankly I only dislike it because dialogue and story isn't what I like in a Metroid game. Plus he was a bit of a tutorial bot.
The idea of Samus being hung up on the death of her former mentor (who she liked) isn't something I dislike.
I just don't like the way it was handled in Fusion and Other M.
>>715941703>If you play default controls in Super, you're weird. Or a crabI am a crab
>>715941475kino
I love how it's a fleshy corruption of the best suit color scheme
>>715941136The parallels? They're mostly silent lone wolves that are deep in enemy territory, the fact that Samus's goal is usually to escape while Doom Guy's is to kill everything is the main thing that sets them apart.
>>715941675There is a difference between a few lines of text, vs an entire game where samus doesnt stop talking. I know you know that.
With how popular randomizers have become as fan mods, and being one of the earliest implementers of it, I still feel like nintendo should make some kind of official randomizer mode in a metroid game.
>bounty hunt mode
>incoporates randomizer-like gameplay in a smaller, randomly generated world space.
>Spawn with a starting loadout. Will need to find a few randomly decided upgrades to progress
>Bounty hunts are essentially chalice dungeons from bloodborne, in metroid form. Makes a small random map of various assets from main game.
>can change between more exploration focused randomizer-esque missions where you need to find a few specific upgrades to complete the map, to combat focused missions that are designed to be done with a full arsenal, and really push your skill in combat.
>any mission ends in a random boss fight as the bounty you need to hunt.
>can do bounties to get points which you can use to unlock different cosmetic suits for main game ala fusion mode in prime 1.
And if we really want to get crazy
>can play as sylux in bounty hunts
>>715941105That's not really true, it was actually closer to the original script. That Youtuber you're referencing admitted he added his own bias to the game, it was pretty crappy. In context, Nintendo did things they never usually do with the game, they made sure the script was on-point with the Japanese one and they made sure to direct the American voice actress. They even kept the lore the same going into their Metroid A-Z thing on their mobile app. That content creator is a liar.
>>715915021Nigga ridley has been blown up 100 times, you think they won't bring this guy back just because he died once?
>>715942013I kinda feel like they'd sooner do it in a Zelda game, unlikely as it may be for them to do it at all
>>715942013Metroid 99 WHEN
Only thing Other M did right was make Samus a tomboy.
>>715942013Like, proc-gen worlds? Planets is pretty much that (minus having to supply the room layouts from people making them) for anyone wanting an adjacent fix, and then A Robot Named Fight does it but with 'Super Metroid at home' and roguelite shit. But yeah you'd think someone at Ninty would acknowledge the concept between Metroid and Zelda. Given that games like SMB and F-Zero each got effective battle royale equivalents, a full-on, proc-gen game could make a good standalone spin-off in the same vein.
As for an actual item shuffle mode? I think the charm of those belies in the players breaking these games and having all kinds of techniques to get around.
>>715914202At least three fathers, 2 of them aliens (Rodney, Grey Voice, Raven Beak), one mother (Virginia) and a Metroid Queen (The Baby).
>>715942923She was a regular human until she was taken to Zebes, where she was infused with Mawkin Chozo DNA, specifically Raven Beak's.
In Corruption she and the other hunters become infected with Phazon, developing tumors that replicate the substance within their bodies, when Phazee is destroyed all Phazon in the universe is immediately rendered inert, but she still technically harbors it, even if it's not active.
She gains Metroid DNA in Fusion after the incident in SR388 when she is attacked by the X-Parasyte and the Federation injects her with a Metroid serum to save her life; as a result of this she becomes able to assimilate X DNA into her body as well, which she does several times throughout the story to restore abilities taken by the SA-X from her Power Suit.
Then in Dread Raven Beak explains that the Metroid DNA that she was given was slowly corrupting her and would in time turn her into a fully assimilated Metroid-like creature, which happens right at the end of the game, however, the X that assimilated Quiet Robe fuses with her as a means of survival, granting her enought Thoha Chozo DNA to render her impervious to the effects of the Metroid DNA.
>>715943371She has Thoha DNA as well but it's unknown from who since 'Old Bird's' name got retconned to "a Chozo Elder" by Nintendo.
>>715943371Samus was actually has 2 Chozo dads
She got her Mawkin genes from Raven Beak
And she got her Thoha genes from Grey Voice
>>715943494IIRC the manga confirmed Gray Voice was the primary donor of Samus' chozo dna before they got split into two tribes in Dread, so Gray is probably still her Thoha donor
>>715943494Not prior to Dread, Dread confirms she only had Mawkin DNA up until she fused with Quiet Robe-X, otherwise the Metroid DNA wouldn't have taken over her body, Thoha DNA was specifically encoded into the Metroid species as a fail safe.
>>715943560Then Grey Voice has to be Mawkin, Samus couldn't have had Thoha DNA prior to Dread or she would have never transformed into a Metrod.
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>>715943597>Dread confirms she only had Mawkin DNA up until she fused with Quiet Robe-X'''ADAM''' says the opposite though, he says Samus already has Thoha genes that kept the Metroid DNA suppressed
>>715943597If Samus only had Mawkin dna, the baby would've attacked her as their hatred of the tribe is engraved on their very cells. She didn't, so Samus has Thoha DNA too.
>>715943560We don't know that anymore after the Metroid A-Z thing Nintendo just did on their mobile app. Gray Voice may have a different name now. Also, Thohas are retconned/confirmed to never have been warrior Chozo too, only the Mawkin tribe was.
>>715943597Dread's the game that confirmed that she has both Thoha and Mawkin before Quiet Robe gave her more Thoha.
>>715936249ridley is barney
>>715942380a smoking hot rootie tootie cutie patootie*
>>715910439 (OP)Japan likes cute things
>>715925941>she's become more alien than humanjesus christ how horrifying
>>715926513Yes, the 20x6 and 20x7 timelines for Samus Returns and Super Metroid aren't canon. Officially neither were ever specified what cosmic year they took place in-game or within their instruction manuals.
>>715944398>the 20x6 and 20x7 timelines for Samus Returns and Super Metroid aren't canonThat makes sense because Samus Returns and Super Metroid take place in quick succession, Samus gets the distress call pretty much right after dropping off the baby so they're pretty much back to back.
How sure are you on the 20x7 timeline for Super? That has a somewhat official source in a Japanese commercial and 2 years seems sensible, plus it'd be plenty of room for the entire Prime trilogy to take place in.
>>715921392Hunters actually did do the alternative playable characters. You could play different Bounty Hunters and they did acted differently from one another.
Mega Man had a good run, i think it was just people ended up getting a bit sick of it. It needed a cooling-off period
unfortunately Inafune is a conman and he hogged all the credit for 'making' Mega Man despite just being some tertiary dipshit in the development process. Many such cases!
>>715945025Heh
You have the metroid and the mega man thread up too?
>>715921452Was this ever confirm it was bandai banco?
>just got to the final Prime 2 key hunt
Dayum, this game already felt a bit long compared to other 'troid ludos. I'm liking it better than the first one to be honest. Thank God for shortcuts.
This video is a funny cope excusing other m.
https://youtu.be/KTuMfsWwd0E?si=qhF_9mDd2boY7OfS
Gotta say some of the points makes dread ending better to me
>>715946034Prime 2 is more drawn out than 1, technically, but man is it more fun to me to navigate.
I wish we got Dread on the DS instead
>pixel art at least on the same level as the GBA games
>dpad movement
>no aim to shoot
>story wouldn't follow the 100% completion OCs from Samus Returns
>aeon abilities reworked or removed
>no epic cinematics in every boss fight to stuff the trailers with
>touchscreen map
>>715946402Yeah I always found it weird the DS never got a Metroid game. A proper mainline one, I mean.
Guess the tech wasn't there for those (lame) emmi segments
>>715944791It was only in an advertisement, Nintendo never officially brought it up, like that whole Samus Returns takes place a year after Zero Mission trailer. 20x6 was shown to be important to Metroid Prime Federation Force as 20x9 is shown to be important to Metroid Prime 4 Beyond. 20x5 was shown to be important to Metroid NES and Metroid Zero Mission.
I have a question.
I was trying out Prime 1 (GC Ver.) for the first time, and sincerely, I think the 4:3 might add to the experience. I tried the 16:9 patch, and it didn't feel as immersive to me. Am I the only person with this take? I'm still at the start of the game, so maybe my opinion would change further on once the game opens up and adds more combat.
>>715910439 (OP)Kraid got cucked to oblivion in Dread, holy shit.
>get captured by Raven Beak and his soldiers>turned into a pet>made into a lab rat and experimented on, forced to transition into Kraidette, pronouns xe/xem>chained up in a lava pit, constantly agitating your neovagina>sense Samus coming, roar and seethe, now's your time for revenge>she barely even acknowledges you, treats you like a chore>dilates your festering, lava bacteria-ridden neopussy, calling you transphobic slurs all the while>casually dodges your last, desperate attack as she coldly watches you sink into the lava>even in death, your suffering does not end, as you get assimilated by an X parasite and merged with Raven Beak into a gibbering monstrosity>only to get instantly vaporized by the galaxy's angriest watermelonBeing Kraid sucks.
>>715946741You're not the only one. It was designed for 4:3.
>>715914538For starters, give Sakamato a pair of concrete shoes and toss him in a river so he can't sabotage the game. He's basically the sole reason Other M was such an abomination. There was an interview he did before the game released that basically shows he shot down every idea on how to fix shit and constantly went over other people's heads all for the sake of fulfilling his glorious vision
https://lparchive.org/Metroid-Other-M/Interview%201/
>>715922378is that shiek, am i retarded
>>715942052Imagine if her car from Rocket League was canon.
>>715914538Character action game.
so did anyone else notice they have airdashes in Prime 4?
>>715914539Just replayed that segment. She was visibly pissed off with the murderer and after defeat she mourns Quiet Robe for a solid 5 seconds before moving on.
>>715911951You grill the most retarded shit Burgers
Metroid is probably the most popular game of its kind in Japan.
>>715920074Should take the Hollow Knight route where there are many branching pathways and the game lasts more than the usual 2-4hrs. But it would make the hardcore fans seethe to no end so they probably would never. I just want more of Dreads movement physics and abilities with more interesting locations next time.
>>715947256Your tranny asses still complaining about a game from 2010?
>>715924353I did Zero Mission and straight to Dread afterwards. Pretty cozy
>>715911951Hell yeah brother
>>715910439 (OP)I hate it when artists are handwriting their shit.
nigga there is a perfectly serviceable keyboard in front of you
So what the fuck happened at the end of dread?
I don't understand how the X-quiet robe was harmless/helped her/had sentience. I don't understand how it was able to remove her metroid suit? What happened to it after that?
>>715948284Thoha DNA in Samus slowed the process of her becoming a Metroid, full Thoha DNA stopped it completely.
>>715927583>Hand job and Blow job at the same time that literally drains you completely dryHawt.
>>715934998Are you too dumb to know how taunts and insults work or something?
It would have been so fucking cool if the game just let you speedboost and crash into Raven Beak's ship to progress but the game wants to be lame instead
>>715947828that's exactly what i want too. traditional metroid peaked too early with super imo.
in fact ninty should just scoop team cherry up for the next 2d job. whenever they're done with nevereversong of course
>>715910439 (OP)Metroid was marketed towards America and Europe since the beginning and never had any pull in Japan, so IDK what they were thinking. She's a 6' 2 tall toned blonde mute woman with double D tits and power armor, who actually thinks that the Japanese would ever be interested in that?
>the Metroid 64 fan project was cancelled
FUCK. Realistically, Nintendo could absolutely get away with just making this for real. Fucking someone please do it.
>>715948362Maybe I misunderstood what the X-parasite was then. I thought it just took over the host by replacing its cells one by one, kinda like the Thing. In which case there wouldn't be any Thoha DNA in there.
Regardless, even if there was, what implications does that have for Samus' genome? Does she still have metroid DNA? Is it just the suit that disappeared while her DNA remains the same?
>>715949280She still has Metroid DNA but she can no longer use the powers like she did in Dread. Basically, she's back to normal but her suit will keep the Metroid aspects that it had the entire game like with Fusion.
>>715949446So perhaps there's a chance that her Metroid powers will resurface/grow like they've been doing all her life thus far (culminating in dread).
>>715921392A SA-X playthrough could make for a fun a fun romhack idea.
>>715945747Nope, Nintendo didn't even say who was making it before in their Development Update video
>>715949503>All her lifeShe only got Metroid genes stapled into her in Fusion as part of the vaccine against X parasites.
>>715910439 (OP)I actually wouldn't mind a more cutesy japanese cartoon metroid game, it could be done but they kind of bungled the idea with federation force, a game where you can't even play as samus
>>715920361desu, sakamoto's vision for the metroid series is too narrow and dull, he's still going for the alien similarities now with this corp and weyland
the prime series has much more interesting worldbuilding
>>715951961So why did his parasite help her
>>715941613>*5 seconds after starting the game*>this is a videogame>I wonder where the run button isthat's how
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>>715938856SA-X's existence is way more tragic than the game ever implies. Imagine finding out you're not only the clone but you're basically The Thing. You've been chasing what you think is an evil clone of you, not knowing it's the real one, and you only discover the reality when you involuntarily transform into a horrible beast to stay alive. SA-X is the protagonist of its own story
>>715910439 (OP)>Nintendo tried to make Metroid appealing to JapanMaking her a submissive little bitch to Adam was the worst thing they could ever to to her as a character.
>>715925941I'm not even gonna lie to you.
I love this look. They don't do this kind of shit often enough, man...
>>715950775Honestly, it could work if they took inspiration from those old 4koma strips and leaned in on Samus being a cute autist who loves round things.
I still want it. They have ex-Bungie people now, they could give it the sauce it needs.
>>715952867interesting concept for a story, but SA-X do not have the mind of Samus. All X copies act completely more hostile than the originals(other than the nice bird guy from dread) meaning they must act purely on instinct or even mind control of some kind
thus SA-X was just a mindless beast. Plus remember there were like a dozen SA-X running around
>>715920074I thought Metroid 5 would be Samus being labeled too dangerous by the Federation and fighting for her life against the best bounty hunters on a new dangerous world (after being lured over under false pretenses)
Given how 5 ended, I feel way more strongly that that's what 6 should be. Samus is the single most dangerous creature known to the galaxy at this point, and she's not under the Feds' control despite her cooperation.
I want to see Prime 4 win GOTY at Geoff's big shill event, not because I like Metroid but because it would be highly amusing watching both the general gaming audience AND the mainstream tendies throw a fit.
Hope thereโs another futuristic IP like F-zero soon where Samus can show up and take a break from her bullshit.
>>715953220They already did give that. They gave you Federation Force and you bastards trash it.
I know about the massive drought and that waiting 6 years after a bad game (Other M) would have a very negative affect. I'm just shocked we didn't turn into weird version of r/BatmanArkhem
>>715936642Controversial take but I recommend you at least try the games in release order. Metroid 1 and 2 show their age in regards to controls and lack of signposting but they're fun and provide a different feeling than the later games. If you don't care for them, stop playing and move onto the next; both games have remakes in the style of later Metroid games. Super Metroid, the third game, is the game that solidified the Metroid formula, so you'll either like that one or the series as a whole just doesn't jive with you.
There are five main metroid games, with the first two being remade through Zero Mission and Samus Returns respectively, and those tell the complete core story. There's also the Metroid Prime games, first person shooters set between Metroid 1 and 2; they're not "canon" in the sense that the main games don't acknowledge them, but they work fine in their own context and are quite good so you can think of them as an alternate timeline.
Also at some point, after checking out the 2D games I mentioned, look up the fanmade game AM2R, which remakes Metroid 2 just like Samus Returns and has a very different feeling to Samus Returns (essentially being "Zero Mission 2"). It's on par with the official games in quality.
Should the games lean into Samus being a sexy woman, or keep her locked up inside the suit?
>>715953963What do you mean? The suit is the sexiest part
>>715953963>boot up game>sexy woman >suits up>beat game>takes of suit >sexy woman (with her brand new DNA-altering power ups appearing on her physical body)
This is going to be the Speed Booster suit, and it will be used as literal fast travel (as in, run very fast) in the open world part of the game.
>>715952086There's something of a suggestion that if Mawkin DNA can exert control over the Metroids, then it might have been able to combat the X-parasite that took over his remains.
X-parasites do everything in their power to maximise their survival, and have demonstrated attacking their only predators, the Metroids.
The recently "revived" Quiet Robe is seen reactivating the E.M.M.I. robots, and it's questionable if this is the X-parasite aiming to eliminate the hunter, or Quiet Robe taking a gambit with Samus recovering abilities by defeating them.
Quiet Robe X getting willingly absorbed by Samus at the end is also at odds between the parasite and the chozo.
The X-parasite may've known that Samus would lose her Metroid Suit and therefore become less of a threat, therefore increasing their survival odds, but the more logical action would've been to sneak aboard the ship and remain undetected until Samus returns to another planet.
The most likely influence is that Quiet Robe wanted to impart more Mawkin genes to help keep her Metroid genetics under control.
If you consider that possibility though, it would mean that Samus has been absorbing the genes of countless fauna from X-hosts.
Also whilst grabbing this image of the SA-X attacking the Metroids in the BSL restricted lab, it occurred to me that this thing ain't using the ice beam on them. Was it too focused on just destroying the facility from the inside?
I've thought about it, and I really feel like Sylux may not be THE main villain the whole time. It's mainly just a hunch based on how Tanabe has talked about his plans with him before as well as my personal guess that their transportation to Viewros was an accident and not him pulling some 4D chess to get hit on purpose.
I think he may end up teaming up with Samus due to a common goal of wanting to get off the planet and being a temporary ally feels like the best way for them to delve into his backstory and motivations. He's a very unique entity for the Metroid franchise as he's not a giant alien monster, an evil clone, or a giant supervillain bird. He's an equal to Samus who's blatantly weaker than her and I think there's a lot of interesting room to explore a character like that in this series.
It's still funny. The absolute state.
>>715955326I think quite a few people expect him not to be the biggest bad. There's a lot they're keeping under wraps, it would be weird if they came out with Sylux only for him to just simply be the villain the entire game.
Let's just hope they are in fact reading the room on him instead of ending up with Federation Force-type monkey paw.
Him getting knocked on his ass is good to show Samus is in form, but having had just that makes it a little weird already.
>>715957063The events involving Sylux seem strangely disconnected from wherever Samus ends up, and the new psychic powers she gets for this adventure.
Though you can reasonably guess that Sylux was trying to steal the black-hole looking mysterious relic, that he accidentally shot which is how Samus got transported away.
>>715921998Could be interesting to control a Federation Solider
>game is about dealing with the evil factions inside the federation>EvilFeds have both mechanical and biological experiments, Samus gains new stuff after defeating the biological bosses and absorbing them with the Metroid powers while Higgs gets new stuff from mech bosses by just taking the tech (maybe even have a human boss that Higgs just takes the weapon from)>each character gets upgrades at a different time and order because of that so they explore the map in a different order making so each campaign feels different
>>715952867Does the game ever even suggest the SA-X think it's the real Samus? it acted pretty beastly from the start
>>715915894I still like the base blue Dread armor more. Nothing will ever top the Phazon Suit though.
>>715957268I'm still in the camp that he shot it on purpose and thereby opened himself up.
Blowing up a relic to be able to destroy Samus or hopefully sending her to some hell dimension is worth it getting blasted for, and something he would be wanting intensely.
But this is going to be some 'who shot first' type deal unless they come out and say it someway given the exchange is so ambiguous.
Would be nice to at the very least read some Sylux logs detailing some of his plans and thoughts throughout the game.
Feels like Nintendo is hiding a lot about Prime 4, that Kiwitalkz guy keeps alluding to some large features being kept under wraps. I have to wonder if its multiplayer or something?
>>715957437That could work nicely as a game with a main and a secondary campaign, Samus being the main campaign and Higgs being the secondary campaign.
Particularly if it has to be a campaign where Samus logically cannot discover any Chozo artifacts, and there's no "authorisation" bullshit. The alternative to that would be her suit was compromised and she gradually has to undo the locks on her powers, like if it was hacked or something.
The idea of characters getting no upgrades from certain bosses though would probably make progression difficult to figure out, so you could have bosses that mix biological and mechanical components like that B.O.X. Security robot.
Nintendo won't dare trying another Metroid game without Samus in it, not after the Federation Force fiasco.
The Mummy Demastered is also an example of a game where the player character is just one of many soldiers, and they aren't any significant person and are replaced if they fall in battle.
>>715957674That's plenty plausible, he might've orchestrated the raid to get Samus where he wanted, and saw the opportunity with Samus standing right beside the object of interest.
We'll see yet if Sylux also got caught up in that and also transported away, and it makes me wonder if the game ends with Samus returning to exactly where she was transported from. After all, she hasn't got her gunship on that mysterious psychic planet.
>>715957063>picHm. The Chozo are Samus' own people, the Luminoth are beleaguered victims, so it makes a lot of sense for the Lamorn to be bad guys. They do really like harping on Samus being "the chosen one" to an almost conspicuous degree.
I still think the artifact is a time travel device. Viewros is just what the planet they're on was called in the past.
>>715936727Metroid 2 is better than Metroid 1
>>715957063very strange for a Nintendo game to have this much yonic imagery
>>715915337>w-we're the good guys!No one really talks about how cringey the dialogue in Corruption can be at times. The intro segment throws one of the lamest death flags in vidya at you, and then expects you to care as your "friends" (you don't know them) get killed. The hunters are cool in concept, but that's about it.
>>715958160Nah. Metroid is famously inspired by Aliens, which itself is famous for the Geiger art. Further, since Samus is a trailblazer for female characters in video games, so it's only too appropriate that there's coochie everywhere in this game.
>>715946741The game's UI was originally designed to operate in 4:3 and boy does it show.
>>715957795>Nintendo won't dare trying another Metroid game without Samus in it, not after the Federation Force fiasco.I truly hope they would not be this purposefully blind. The reasons for it's poor reception are so clear even the Pirate Science team understands them.
>>715957917There have been some cool discussions about if Sylux also gets caught up, but it might be neat to have it as you describe, where Sylux is proceeding with various plans while Samus is stuck for a while and she comes back, only now with some cool powers Sylux' plans weren't accounting for.
>>715957956Indeed, it might be a cool subversion that what appears to be yet another [insert original inhabitants Samus saves here] to actually turn on her at some point because they have some ulterior motive, even though that by itself may be a predictable way to go at this point.
>>715957437Federation soldiers play metroid soccer with balls 24/7 and are entirely ineffective last I checked
>>715956783Why would you show the main villain jobbing in the trailer? This is like the Terminator Dark Fate trailer, where the villain terminator was shown jobbing in like 4 different scenes. It's not a good look if you want to establish a credible villain.
>>715958967I'm still tilted by Blast Ball. We all remember that E showcase, right? How do you fuck up 'soccer with guns'? Pathetic. Unironically hope it comes back so they can do it right this time.
>Hunter's log 20X9-M1-013
>After an intense standoff I blasted the enemy leader into submission
>However I had not realized he had hit the unknown relic, causing it to surge with energy
>I appear to have been transported to an unidentified segment of outer space
>My ship appears to be outside of signaling range so all I can do await for a passing ship to pick up my beacon
>At least there are round things here.
>End of log
>Sylux is the only of the MPH characters to escape that game
Lame, I want my nigga Noxus back
>>715959756>The Vhozon are race of highly intelligent humanoid beings who are known for being famous, if ruthless peacekeepers. >The Vhozon have high self-esteem and think of many others as being unworthy or criminal, but have themselves contributed much to galactic society.Them stepping in to have the Fed check their shit because of all the EvilFed shenanigans should be a thing.
>>715912378>and make her a lesbianAlways was.
>>715961061I want Samus' girlfriends to be actual characters in the games.
I honestly think enough time has passed that we can just kind of admit that Metroid was never good in the first place. The "Metroidvania" descriptor was always bullshit, they pretty much always described Castlevania-likes with no Metroid elements whatsoever, since Metroid sucked and no one really liked it. I doubt /v/ is ready for this discussion just yet, however.
>>715961061>>715961228Samus' sexuality should not be "investigated", so to speak. I don't what to see her pining for some commander from her youth, or lezzing out with a couple floozies.
>>715942380She always was...
What do you even think the word means? It's not a synonym for "girl with short haircut"
>>715961418Super Metroid is better than your favorite game, zoomer.
Sex with Samus, SA-X, and Dark Samus, all at the same time.
>>715961506>What do you even think the word means? It's not a synonym for "girl with short haircut"... It actually is.
What did YOU think it meant?
>>715961593This anon gets it.
Will he come back in Metroid Prime Beyond?
X-Fusion any day now bros
>>715961593This, except Ridley would be tied up and we'd have have sex ON him while simultaneously tickle torturing him
Samus is for a wholesome steady relationship with a good man who loves her, even though she doesn't always do that well at the relationship thing.
>>715953041Same.
>>715953108>Samus being a cute autist who loves round thingsAh, so that's where the morph ball ability came from and why she popped up in PopStar.
>>715961963I really hope not. This dude has shown up in 5 games (7 if you count clones). Let him rest.
Bringing him back like he's Ganon kills the believability of it. Surely, Samus would have made sure he was dead at some point. Shit, his "death" in Super seems more like a fluke than anything.
>>715915894Dread suit proportions are good but the layout of the colors makes it look like she's wearing a fucking diaper.
>>715962617No it doesn't. What you see is either Samus having gloriously feminine proportions, or armor from her suit.
>>715957786Can someone explain who left guy is? I heard that he really hates Samus and/or the Federation. What's his deal?
>>715959189>Sylux>credible villianSylux is probably not going to be the final boss. He'll appear as a mid-boss 2-3 times like the Prime Hunters fights with some sad backstory regarding the corrupt galactic federation.
>>715963078He's from Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS.
All hunters got a basic backstory of who they are and why they wanted the macguffin in that game.
For Sylux all we basically know is that he was involved with the Federation in some way as his equipment is suggested to be stolen from them and generally is hellbent on destroying them, as well as their paragon Samus.
He appears in a post credits scene of 2 other games as well.
>>715962762I'm talking about the white leotard shape. In this case, it should be the same bronze color as the pauldrons. Something like this would be better.
>>715963793Here's what Sylux actually is:
One interesting thing that the Prime games have established about Samus's suit is that it just straight up contains a powerful artificial intelligence that can learn to interpret novel alien language, analyze and speculate about engineering, architecture, and xenobiology, and otherwise offer very helpful tips to samus in order to help her win in combat and complete missions. The Feds tried to do something similar, a suit that contained a sapient helper AI that soldiers could wear on extended missions where contact with command and information structures was not guaranteed. And then it went rogue, because it didn't want to be used as a tool. Sylux is the suit. It also may or may not be based on the memory and personality data from a real person, like the Adam AI.
>>715934443Itโll be about the Zelder movie
>>715952867> finding outAnon, they are X-parasites
They only mimic
>>715964669I mean, it's a cool thought, though I think that most people would prefer him being an actual person.
At the very least, the fact that his equipment has been described as a suit and being stolen, would suggest this can't be exactly it, though that might just have been unreliable narrator.
>>715965879Why would him being a suit AI not make him an actual person.
>>715964669>>715965879Reading some more, funnily enough, the english description for his Brawl trophy uses 'it' to describe him apparently.
The wiki notes that this is the only one of the hunters trophies to do so.
I wonder how the Japanese text compares.
>>715966187You may consider it tomato potato, but for things like the gags of him seething at Samus while she doesn't even know who he is, I think most people would feel a difference between him being a true blooded human or only a replication of one.
As an example dynamic, him trying and failing at the one thing he wants in his life is different if he is mortal versus if he is an AI (even if he could be destroyed as the last copy or whatever)
>>715921846This looks a bit too pizza toweresque for me but it could be fun
>>715912998Sakamoto/MS should move on from 2D and do third person 3d, you can clearly see with dread they're out of ideas for 2d metroid
>>715910439 (OP)It didn't, dread selling 3 million isn't noteworthy considering how tiny of a bump it has compared to NEStroid and Prime as a switch title
>>715965879Pikas are warm and fluffy! I love that loving cute critters is an explicit character trait of hers.
>>715914539I agree, it's weird considering they nailed her character in SR prior
This is what Samus should look like.
>>715967626>Samus discovers another cute critterMy bet is she'd have a fish tank on her ship or in her hideout, low maintenance but still something to care for.
>>715968594What's the point of wokefying her design if you're going to give her the body paint suit anyway. Also the Varia suit isn't bulky enough.
>>715967365>noooooo every game needs to sell a gorillion billion or it's a floooopDread sold better than Bloodborne. Chew on that, nigger. Glad you'll never get another Other M kusoge either, fag.
>>715969762>>noooooo every game needs to sell a gorillion billion or it's a floooopThis attitude seriously needs to stop. The ultra wealthy does not seem to understand what money IS. The line can't go up anymore because that's not how it works.
Metroid is sustainable. It's relatively cheap to produce and always makes a modest profit. And that's just fine.
>>715970102>this mentality has to stopTell that to the shrieking tortanic bandwagon schizos polluting this board.
>>715912750If samus is a birb, what makes Doomguy? A Wascally Wabbit?
>>715970348It's so easy to make Samus cute, and I find that amusing.
>>715954350that is just the mass effect armor
>>715970648Samus shouldn't be cute. She should look like this.
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>>715959756>>715960194I want more Kriken shenanigans
The idea that there's an empire/swarm of insectoid conquerors that's just entirely fucking invisible, including their tech is just a cool concept
I'm imagining them taking over remote colonies without anyone noticing, signals keep being sent out, "people" seem to be walking around on scans, but the entire place has been already taken over, Kriken have set up their bases underground, invisible warships are in orbit and the people slaves pretending things are okay
>>715956783NOOO WE CAN'T LET SAMUS LOSE ANYMORE IT WILL BE OTHER M ALL OVER AGAIN IF WE DO
>>715967087Most of the stuff in that trailer has some basis in Zero Mission, Fusion, Samus Returns (3DS), and Dread.
We need a male version of Samus to serve as a role model for boys.
>>715969452its so you can also ruin the power suit like that shitty image does
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>>715971332That is Doomguy Anon.
>>715971395the crossover between Doom and Metroid is also ridiculously easy to do
Space Pirates find out about Hell, immediately open a portal into it because it's full of argent energy, boom crossover
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>>715971509halofags will never accept that samus and doomguy are chief's parents
>>715971683Samus is a lesbian. Deal with it.
>>715971735Haloid is dead and rotting in hell alongside monty oum
>>715971819Nintendo confirmed it.
https://www.themarysue.com/metroids-samus-aran-transgender-woman/
>>715954824It's not a matter of the Mawkin DNA being why Quiet Robe X helps Samus. It gets established that X absorb the hosts genes AND their memories. It's easy to miss in Fusion because the X is painted as totally evil but there's some doubt created that X may actually be acting in a righteous way because of a host's memories. An X scientist tries to destroy the BSL, and Samus notes that this would kill many X on board. Samus talks about the SA-X as being soulless, but if it has her memories, it's a possibility that the reason it hunts her down is because she is technically a Metroid, and thus what she as Samus is supposed to exterminate.
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>>715972087If you are really trying to troll at 4chan of all places, using a literal troll website.
reddit is over there shartroon
For those it might interest, I found the japanese descriptions for the Brawl trophies in this video.
My japanese isn't perfect, but to me the description for Sylux does not seem to differ from the others on how he's referred to, they're all referred to in a general/neutral way, as you would expect for jap.
So him being referred to as 'it' compared to the other hunters does seem specific to the english descriptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4K90Lq5YbU
>>715971026>the Kriken are considered "interstellar cockroaches"I'm not sure if I'm a fan of their entire empire being defined by stealth, with how they are referred to as ruthlessly war-like but it does have its own appeal.
>>715910439 (OP)>Team Ninja tries to give Samus an actual character with trauma and PTSD regarding the death of her parents and Ridley>People called it sexist because she cried and it made her "weak"I didn't think Other M was that great, and I wasn't a huge fan of the story but I really do not understand why there was such an overreaction to this. Specifically in calling it sexist. Like there were people on all sides screaming at them and saying they just made her cry because she was a girl. I think they just took the one aspect of Samus lore that actually existed and tried to expand on it. Samus has basically no character in any of the games minus maybe Fusion. Do I think it ultimately failed? Yes, I do believe that, but I was just blown away by how many people thought this serious attempt at expanding her character was done in bad faith or to "ruin" her.
>>715971509>Leader, leader!>Mother Brain: What? >Hell is real! And it's overflowing with delicious energy. >Mother Brain: Seriously? >Yes, ma'am, I can show you the data right now. >Mother Brain: Oh shit! Start mining operations immediately! I hate how free this is.
>>715972552>try to give her PTSD about ridley>a person she's killed 2 or 3 times at this point yes retard it does "ruin" her because she sees ridley and her suit TURNS THE FUCK OFF BECAUSE SHES SCARED
>>715972759It was not done in bad faith. It was not done to make her a worse character. It was just extrapolation on the one piece of backstory we have. I literally said it didn't end up working, but calling it "sexist" is fucktarded.
>>715972752also the entire conversation between Samus and Doomguy before they team up is
"Space pirates got into Hell?"
"Lets put a stop to this"
>>715972945Not even, dude. They just give each other a look and nod.
>>715959189He's going to be the cocky hot head rival, jobs a little less each encounter
>>715972552I think the sexism claims mainly comes from making Samus too subservient to Adam. When a female character goes ~7 games being mostly autonomous with the only orders given being 'KILL THE METROIDS' and is otherwise free to act as she (or the player) see fit, putting her in a situation where a man tells her what to do every few minutes and tells her not to disobey him can kind seen that way
>>715915894It's alright. I think gravity version is better personally. I would also like the blue suit more if it didn't look like she was wearing diapers.
>>715915894I have always hated how the neck part is uncovered in the suit, like WHY? Samus suits have never left any part open, why now? It looks weird.
>I've finally got you now, Samus...
>How I've tired of waiting for this moment!
>Even if you might not remember!
>Ever since that day
>there has not been a day I have forgotten about you
>About you...
>Only thinking about you...
>Uwaaa Samus
>I can't do a thing but think about you
>Ya gotta take responsibility, please!
>>715977178itโs exacerbated by the fact virtually every plot point is resolved without Samusโs input. she is effectively a bystander to the entire game, and itโs fucking gay. she doesnโt even get to go through pseudo-tourian because that faggot Adam leaves her crying and throwing a bitch fit outside. I genuinely wish violent and dehumanizing death upon anyone who still evangelizes other m in current year.
>>715977178yeh, in all other metroid games, Samus is plan B, when plan C is nuke it from orbit
>>715978997>itโs exacerbated by the fact virtually every plot point is resolved without Samusโs input.Seriously. I'll be the first one to bitch when a protag is the ONLY person allowed to accomplish anything, but they should still be the primary mover of the plot, unless that's the point. But fuck you, this is Metroid. We want to see Samus being a hero who saves the day.
>>715979110This was explicit in Corruption. Literally the Federation's plan was to send Samus to Urtragia, wait for her to do her thing, and then invade once the shields are down.
This is why I don't think we'll ever get the fugitive arc. To many sane people are in charge in the Federation, and they like having their useful asset around. When shit gets too real, they just cut her a check and the problem goes away.
>>715948685>wanting the next Metroid to be vaporware
>>715977178At a base level that wouldn't have been so bad conceptually if the framing works. So maybe you have a prequel, or you have a very particular circumstance, and if you hand it to the player correctly they can at least accept that the character isn't going to be doing what they usually do.
The problem is that the events were so retarded all of that goes out the window, like anon's point about her being a total bystander, or the beaten horse of not using the Varia suit while melting to death just so the story can make a point.
>>715980781>possessed LuminothWhy aren't the Ing more popular? Personally, I think it's because they don't have any lore scans. We learn plenty of the Luminoth, we got the interesting GFed trooper scans, and the Pirate Logs are hilarious. But despite being the primary antagonists of the game, we know very little about the Ing. I think that's kind of a shame.
>>715937091Didn't she already get that from absorbing the X from the Ridley clone in Fusion?
>>715941105While it was poorly executed I can kinda see what they were trying to go for with Samus. However, I have no idea how they thought Adam was likable and Samus looking up to him made sense. Some Japanese thing about seniority maybe.
>>715981474>However, I have no idea how they thought Adam was likable and Samus looking up to him made sense.It was 100% daddy issues and while I also hate the execution it is one of the most accurate things about women to adapt for Samus and the notion she has a daddy-crush on Adam is kind of hot
>>715910439 (OP)I'm surprised it doesn't get talked how the Chozo adopted a little girl to pump their DNA in her long enough that she became a hybrid
>>715981176I think plenty of people like them, I for one think they're really cool.
But as it is they aren't really more than space brain-parasites so there's not really much to discuss about them that isn't a permanent hypothetical, sadly.
One angle that Dark Samus could have played out is if she tried to replicate the conditions that brought forth the Ing in order to get them as an army.
Even though the Phazon arc itself played this card, nuking a planet with an asteroid in order to split it into another dimension is still hardcore.
>>715981176They aren't really that interesting. Just another hive mind alien species that assimilates living organisms. Nobody's here asking what the Ing culture is like or how they think. We know enough about them from the one game they appeared in.
>>715981176Weren't the Ing just hivemind kill + consume everything?
>>715914539Incels will seethe, but you are right. Just compare the flashback to the baby metroid in SR. In the original she was briefly on guard, but quickly deduced that the thing wasn't a threat and let it play around her. In Dread she's about to blast an innocent baby for like 10 seconds before ignoring it. It's just too much of an overcorrection, but I guess it's needed to placate the Americans.
>>715982251>In Dread she's about to blast an innocent baby for like 10 seconds before ignoring itAre you referring to an actual scene I'm not remembering or is this just an exaggerated example of how she WOULD act in Dread?
>>715981474If it is a japanese seniority thing I wonder if it's supposed to be interpreted as a good thing or a bad thing.
>Miyamoto-san! The office is on fire! Please, let me pull the fire alarm!>Not until you finish designing the level.>Thank you, Miyamoto-san!
reminder that only retards have a problem with Samus acting cool, and no matter how cheesy and over the top itโs still preferable to her being a stupid whiny dickwhipped slut with zero agency
>>715983217>and no matter how cheesy and over the topThis is honestly part of the charm to it. Samus being a bit of a try-hard is endearing, like in the intro to Prime where she somersaults 30 feet in the air just to land on a platform just two feet below her.
>>715983217Itโs just the ACschizo talking to itself again. Just ignore it. And if you canโt, just call it a nigger and move on.
>>715983492yeah thatโs what I donโt get, she has literally always been like this. she is a large ham who poses like a goofy action hero for no reason other than she likes it. the retards of /v/ find any excuse to cry like little bitches.
>>715983526donโt tell me what to do pussy
>>715969762Bloodborne sold 7.5 million (not counting ps+) so no it didnt
>>715983728>too sexy for my powerup
>>715981176The ing have such an interesting alien design
How do people even design creatures like that? Creatures that have no basis off of real life animals or insects?
>>715984187They do take something from nature, then you give it an interesting color and additional limbs, or tongues, more or less eyes, maybe just one big eye, sharp teeth everywhere...
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>Samus, you have made much progress, but do not get ahead of yourself
>You are NO match for Raven Beak
>He would absolutely destroy you, he's that strong
>My records show he once wrestled a sheegoth naked in the frozen tundra and WON
>They also reveal he is the intergalactic cock-fighting champion, having a kill record of 9999 wins and no losses
>Chozo women used to call him 'the raven we cravin' and I hear he's even turned straight men gay for him
>>715914202oh no this can't be
102% alien...with a 2% margin of error...
>>715984187I actually found them pretty generic. Part of what I really liked in the Prime games was how they took the old designs which were pretty random and actually came up with some biological explanation for them.
>>715984187That's clearly just a gorilla/chimp with an extra arm and a weird head.
>his plan was to make an army of Samus's
oh nooo that would be terrible...
>>715972552No, I think it was entirely justified to call it what it is, horrible writing and a character assassination. The sexist part is arguably part of it since this icon in gaming who has acted entirely on her own for so long suddenly NEEDS some random dude's approval. It'd be like Mario suddenly having half and hour of Mario talking about he won't jump until Peach tells him to. It's not just out of character, it's not anything anyone wants to see.
And she did have a character, even if it wasn't Count of Monte Cristo. The most obvious being sparring the baby Metroid after genociding the entire species. No dialogue needed, her actions speak for themselves.
>>715986447I'm still impressed they pulled off her scream without it coming across as weird or just annoying.
>Problem: Everyone is obsessed with getting Samus Aran
>Solution: Give everyone Samus Aran
>The galaxy is at peace.
>>715982112>>715981935No that's the interesting thing about them
the Ing are explicitly NOT a hivemind, they're individuals, primitive sapients with a strange sort of code of honor
they didn't just assimilate everything randomly, they tested opponents and only allowed their strongest warriors the honor of assimilating their strongest opponents
>>715969762Dread sold better than Demon souls remake not Bloodborne
>>715961506That's why I always loved Samus. I love tomboys.
>>715970669Samgoddess Aryan
Weavel probably is also making a reappearance. If youโre going to bring back one Hunters character, then you might as well bring back the one whoโs a Space Pirate in the game where the Space Pirates are here.
I love the idea of Samus looking like a sporty blonde bimbo, but she acts like a quiet staring weirdo, and is intellectually stupendous.
>>715983492This. She's allowed to be slightly chuuni.
>>715961436Given the events of Dread Samus would likely end up killing anyone succubus style if she were to try fucking them
>>715957917>>715958531I think everyone in the vicinity was caught up and transported. We see the run down Federation mech on Viewros so itโs reasonable to conclude everyone including Sylux and the rest of the Pirates/Federation were transported.
>>715989297Just watch videos of birds. Little fuckers love to show off. Samus must be in a constant state of suppressing her avian need to be a showy nutjob.
>Raven Beak had wings on his back
Is Angel Samus a possibility?
>>715989687>Expect Angel Samus>Instead she wildly mutates and loses her arms, which becomes wings, turning her harpy>Have to spend some of the game with a half-on suit, limited flight, and a lot of using those legs to do stuff
>>715989945Harpy Samus would also be pretty cool
>>715989945>>Instead she wildly mutates and loses her arms, which becomes wings, turning her harpyAs a huge CV fag, this is the LEAST I expect from Metroid.
>>Have to spend some of the game with a half-on suit, limited flight, and a lot of using those legs to do stuffNot at all, imagine if the suits adaptive capabilities reached THAT far, imagine techno harpy Samus with metal wings as if she was a Kirby character, now THAT would be metal(tm).
>>715989687Would not be surprised if a future game gave her endgame suit functional wings. It'd be sick as fuck.
>>715989687>Raven Beak DNA>Expecting dove wings
the metroid game where samus is just actively mutating in freaked-out ways over the entire game feels like it might just be a matter of time
i thought nintendo had gotten a handle on inadvertent fetish fuel but they just put out the donkey kong game for gay furries so anything is possible
>>715910439 (OP)Why is samus a gelfling here
>>715989437Entirely reasonable given how big the explosion is, it's probably more about where, and possibly when, people ended up.
Although there's a lot of unknowns, like how prepared Sylux was.
The vined mech on Viewros that we get to see is also more like a construction mech than the military ones from the opening, and it looked to be there for a while, any other traces of the GF on the planet are not shown thus far, so not entirely obvious that they were in fact caught up in that moment.
The narrator even qualifies her appearing on Viewros as 'being summonmed to Viewros'. So who knows.
>>715990939What would be the point of giving Samus wings when she has been able to space jump since the 3rd game?
>>715992090Suck cocks shartroon
>>715992542Somersaulting across the sky is definitely cooler
>>715992039Aerial battle with Ridley as a setpiece
Missile lauchers attaches to wings?
>>715954824Appreciate your take here but I assumed he simply had more power over the X due to having a strong mind/wisdom or something like that. So he then went on the ship and Samus absorbs the X to lose the suit and fly the ship all just because they wanted to get a moment that strikes right at the feels. Overall I liked that ending sequence.
>>715992972>Aerial battle with Ridley as a setpiece That does provide some justification
Samus can already fly with Space Jump / Screw Attack but she can't really do anything else WHILE flying because she has to be perpetually spinning and somersaulting.
If she had wings she could do cool air-combat shit while also having free access to her arm-cannon and general use of her limbs
>>715984867>Samus, you stand 0 chance against raven chad peak. >The only way you can survive is to submit to the BRC
>>715994394that said the primary reason why samus will never have that level of controlled flight is simple: the game is in part platformer and nothing breaks a platformer faster than flight
>>715994562simple: the next metroid is open world. we botw'd it. samus' wings have durability
>>715986519>It'd be like Mario suddenly having half and hour of Mario talking about he won't jump until Peach tells him toThis was a pivotal plot point of the Mario movie and anyone who complained about it was labeled as a chud/incel/nazi.
>>715921846NES graphics were really slept on. But I guess 40 years of new programming techniques weren't available back then.
>>715910647Clearly its doge.
>>715994676HOT TAKE: Open world Metroid can work if it's a Fallout clone.
>>715995446the way to do it would be I think
BotW style overworld though with a completely different style, focus on the world being alien and dangerous
but instead of shitty BotW style shrines there's several points that are full traditional metroid style areas
as for gameplay, include an ability (possibly metroid-related) that gives you a temporary beam or power you can drain out of enemies
>>715995446Im a little more open minded to open world games now after mario kart world beung better than expected. (Then again Ive always thought driving games work for open world cuz of gta) maybe an open world metroid would be ok. Just really depends if its a cohesive tight nit "open world" like dark souls 1, but bigger, or the "whatever its open world now" of elden ring.
Anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk please rate my opinion.
>>715996028dark souls is already basically a metroidvania in map structure
>>715995113Seems like a lot of people arenโt aware of just how much juice can be squeezed out from 8-bit with the right artists. The polish in that trailer was unreal and I only wished more pixel indie games could at least bother to look that good. Pixels get a bad rap.
>>715986703The suit having no fade in or anything made me laugh though
>>715970609Doomguy was spliced with rabbit DNA?
>>715921846Glad Dread showed people that the Speed Booster should carry over to more actions than jumping
>>715978313It's the Fusion Suit after recovering more of the Power Suit's form
>>715997241He has bugs bunny levels of luck, trollish behavior at the arena and plot armor.
and this probably sings ad eternum in his head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSfYExf9rU
>>715995446Original Fallout or Bethesda Fallout? Cuz I don't see either working. I also don't see why we need "open world" Metroid (to me the games are already Open World).
If anything at best I could see something like a game where you take bounties and go from planet to planet, but that just seems like a product that would be worse than the average Metroid game.
>>715997369Dread has the best Speed Booster, and all it took was a shorter activation distance. Fuck this shit was so much fun.
>>715910439 (OP)>Hire tranny sjw devs that shit out two mediocre metroid games >Nintendo fanboys think this is a win somehow
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>>715999431What the Hell are you talking about kid?
I feel like desperate shitposting should be taken as a sign that the thing you like is doing well. Metroid continues to be just fine.
This was a pretty comfy thread. Let's do this again sometime.
>>715984867time to post this again
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Before this thread ends I'd like to say FUCK Samus and FUCK the Federation. That is all.