Thread 715948820

At what point did you realize that the Steam Deck, being a gimped laptop, isn't as great of a concept in execution than when it was on paper? 157% slower than a NINTENDO device, It's not a good thing at all

why does he look like that

>>715948820 (OP)
Can play pirated games on the deck
Can modify deck
Can do whatever with it without it getting bricked
Deck is pro consumer, switch is pro corporation.
Deck wins faggot

>>715948820 (OP)
Imagine Wokeendo going like
"we built our own Windows emulator, but it's unfinished and buggy, so help our pajeets to sort of fix it, yes, that'll be $850 + tip of the cock"

>>715948820 (OP)
When it was announced? Steam isn't like nintendo making their own games so getting a deck was always going to leave you burned in longevity vs a traditional console.

>>715948921
>without it getting bricked
Steam will stop running on Steam Deck in 14 days.

Just wait until there is a new gen of these PC handhelds, it's clear they aren't good enough for current gen games anymore. Unless you don't plan on playing new games.

>>715948921
>Can play pirated games on the deck at 15fps
>Can modify just the ssd
>Can do whatever linux allows (not that much)
Valve is a corporation, anon.

>>715949040
nooooo, Gabe is my personal fat friend.

>>715948935
>>715949021
this is what ultimately cripples a steam deck or any handheld PC. devs barely care about PC optimization, let alone a PC thats very underpowered and running on battery

>>715949021
A deck 2 would still be too underpowered vs a ps5 and would only increase its ability to play games that are cross platform on the switch 2 at which point you'd be better off just getting that instead.

>>715948820 (OP)
Cope, bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJXMNsNZtFU

>>715948820 (OP)
whats stopping you from having a 30wah powerbank in your satchel with a usb cord to play at full power all the time

>>715949646
Not him, but the Steam Deck 2 will use an AMD APU based on Zen 6 RDNA 5/UDNA, that thing will be around Xbox Series S level.

You're stuck with Switch 2 hardware until at a least 2032 if not longer, Deck will have a revision or maybe even 2.

>>715948820 (OP)
It can play non-Nintendo approved games, that's a win for me.

>>715950090
are you sure about that?

>>715948854
A diet high in corn syrup, sugar, and carbohydrates in addition to little physical exertion. His pallid skin is caused by vitamin D deficiency. He is evidently near-sighted and suffering from the early stages male pattern baldness. He has unkempt facial hair and is wearing an ill-fitting, unfashionable T-Shirt.

>>715950350
>lower textures
>using the PS4 versions of games
>needing AI upscaling to compete
Yes, I am. Steam Deck 2 is going to make this a Steam Deck vs Switch difference.

>>715950442
>Steam Deck 2 is going to make this a Steam Deck vs Switch difference.
holy copium

>>715950331
Steam doesn't allow games that even SONY allows

why are people surprised that 3 years old hardware doesn't magically get more efficient and performant with time?

are they retarded?

>>715948921
>Deck is pro consumer, switch is pro corporation.
All Valvefags need to be shot immediately. This delusion has gone on too long.

>>715948820 (OP)
I never understood the insane hype this thing had. Like if I had to fly constantly I could see the appeal I guess.

>>715950652
Only one coping is you

So has anyone here tried this new lossless scaling frame gen?What is your experience with it?

A multimillion dollar company pays every day for retarded threads like these to be made, and to be made fun of.
Isn't that hilarious?

>>715950806
And the steam deck can still play dungeon travelers 2 which all the consoles were too pussy for, because it's a pc. Console bitchboys will never know freedom.

>>715950848
Explain how that's wrong. I'd love to hear it, tendie-kun.

>>715951367
Does what it says on the tin, doubles your framerate. It'd make for excellent shitposting webms if deckfags shitposted anywhere near as much as nintendo fanboys do.

>>715948820 (OP)
So this image is telling us how good Nvidia tech is, without tracing devs performance?
Okay?

>>715950350
>docked switch
lole

>>715948820 (OP)
The deck wins here, what am I supposed to be seeing? Maybe if you were making an argument for efficiency due to better battery life, but the switch 2's battery life is total dogshit and the deck beats it there too.

>>715948820 (OP)
But it's faster on the graph. (Power doesn't matter - that's just newer litography)

>>715948820 (OP)
I was fully expecting Switch 2 to be faster than Deck OLED even at lower TDP. Nintendo massively gimped the Switch 2 by giving it a tiny battery and not raising the TDP to 15W.
Using 8nm Ampere instead of 4nm Lovelace was a massive mistake. Switch 2 is going to suffer from performance issue before 2030 the same way Switch 1 struggled after 2020. Very shortsighted move by Nintendo just to save a few bucks on the silicon. They should've just made it $500 and not gimp the SoC.

steamdeck has thousands of games
libraries from older consoles
a lot of remakes too
what are you talking about

steamdeck is THE go to emulation station

You really shouldnt run your steamdeck at god damn 24 watts

Your battery is gonna pop open like a semi

>>715952273
Valve said the Steam Deck 2 will focus on performance and efficiency. This is the only advantage the Switch 2 has over the current Deck. It's over when the Steam Deck 2 comes because it will be the culmination of what Valve wanted to create with AI upscaling and ray tracing. It'll do everything better than the Switch 2 along with battery life. Nintendo is going to need to upgrade that battery if they are going to compete in 2027.

I do digital art and make beats on my steamdeck, I also havw no problem pirating and playing all the old games from ps2, gamecube, n64, and those are the only consoles that ever had good games and likely ever will.

>>715948921
this

>>715950806
who said every game had to be bought off Steam? Epic, GOG, fuck I'm downloading from f95zone to play Porn on my Deck right now

>>715950806
You say that as if nintendo even had the balls for the first game, which is on steam and nowhere else. Meanwhile those two are still on PC and not on consoles. Don't throw stones in glass houses.

>>715948820 (OP)
Don't you retards realize that the deck came out more than 3 years ago,
was and it is cheaper than the switch 2, has better build quality, can be used as a pc, no limitations on what you can do with it or what you can play, mods, can play any pc game as long as it's technically able to boot it, can play any console game up to 360/ps3/switch (even runs bloodborne ).

>>715948921
Switch 2 owners deserve what they get. All they can do is point out slightly inferior hardware on a device that offers more to cope with their overpriced hardware and the with a select few games Nintendo will let them play. Lucky for these companies there are still people stupid enough to buy a limited, restrictive consoles over a PC that you can do more than just game. Imbeciles.

>>715949040
>Can do whatever linux allows (not that much)
holy bait

>>715950806
Oh, okay, so Nintendo must surely have all three games, right? Right? No? None? Oh.
But oh, would you look at that, they're all on PC, and guess what a Steam Deck is!

>>715952754
>words words words
I like the deck but brevity is the soul of wit. That image sucks.

>>715950652
You'd best start preparing your asshole now dude or it's going to blindside you raw.

>>715952895
Nice counter argument, idiot.

>>715948820 (OP)
>avarage FPS
>%
Is that some sort of comparison?

>>715948990
Steam uses Chromium and Chromium won't stop supporting Linux any soon, unlike what they did with older Shatnglows7

>>715952298
>>715952371
yes the switch 2 is faster at lower TDP as its 157% faster than Steam Deck at 8.6W. In this OP photo the Switch 2 (8.6W) is only 17% behind the Steam Deck(24W) despite the Deck consuming nearly 3x as much power.

Digital Foundry also ran a test trying to match Switch 2's handheld TDP for Steam Deck and the results are fucked, with Steam Deck not even achieving 1FPS (0.9 frames per second kek)

>>715953182
its the alternate display for the graph.

>>715953372
I like how you fags have to pretend you care about tdp despite seeing literally no benefit from it because the s2's battery is such trash that even its battery life is still worse than the deck's.
The comparison for cyberpunk in particular is also slanted in the s2's favor due to the game nuking its setting below even the lowest pc settings, and the deck still beats it in performance.

>>715953182
Obviously. Look for the one that says 100% for baseline.

>>715953271
>Valve made a decision, which fucks customers over
They are to blame, no one else.

It's kind of embarrassing tendies have to keep comparing the 3 year old deck to their brand new cutting edge switch 2 because it's the only PC handheld they can trade blows with. Every other one that's come out since completely shits all over it.

>>715948820 (OP)
>comparing a switch 2 with a steam deck
Now show the charts comparing SNES with a PS5

>>715953506
>says tdp is pointless because battery
>ignore the fact that switch 2 is literally more efficient
>ignores the fact that tdp still matters when plugged in
kek deckfags are losing their minds now that nintendo of all companies makes a more competent device

>>715948820 (OP)
i heckin love my switcherino!!
Switch 2...more like Switched 2 Steam Deck, the superior device

why are people shilling hardware on sunday?

>>715954736
TDP is only one part of the equation. Switch 2's battery is less than half the size of the deck's.

>>715954156
What are they going to use other than Blink, it's a essentially monopoly lmao

>>715948820 (OP)
Can I stream my games from my PC to the Switch?

>>715954736
>worse battery life
>worse performance
>b-but it matters in some magical way because it just does okay
Holy fucking cope

>>715955026
Very easily. Just install CFW

>>715954736
>switch 2 is literally more efficient
>Still overheats

>>715955075
And then wait until Nintendo bricks your toys?

>>715948820 (OP)
>157% slower than a NINTENDO device, It's not a good thing at all
The reason I got a deck is not because it is slower or faster than a NINTENDO device, but because it's something I can get access to my steam library to in a portable form-factor (yes, it's considerably more portable than a laptop). Until Switch 2 somehow gains the capacity to run steam, this comparison is irrelevant.

>>715954387
The funny thing to is hardware isn't even the concern with low power devices, software is, this usually being the shit Nintendo pretends to have, but by default everyone loses software to PC just because there's no "generations".

>>715955145
free app

>>715955185
Steam Link is on 'itch?

>>715954387
What's embarrassing is them going full snoy over it because they have no games.

Oh and bonus reminder:
NINTENDO WAS BLOWING ADVERTISING BUDGET RUNNING ANTI SHILLING FOR THE STEAM DECK WHEN YOU COULDN'T EVEN BUY ONE LMAO

>>715955063
>better performance is considered some magical way
total deck death. this is one hell of a Freudian slip holy shit lmao

>>715955225
it's on my phone. it's not on yours?

>>715955185
>streaming client
Gonna pass on that one dawg. I'd like to be able to play even when I'm physically far away from my home PC, when it's not turned on or when I'm disconnected from the internet entirely.

>>715955292
it is on my phone and my android TV, but i was wondering would Nintardo really allow something like this on their device which im 99% sure they wouldn't

>>715955248
Might want to try that one again, Rajesh.

>>715955308
dont tell me you dont have one of these either

>>715955237
The steam deck selling out when the switch 2 does really say a lot.

>>715948820 (OP)
Performance and battery life are irrelevant as long as you have a PC to stream from.
These comparisons are silly, nobody uses the deck as a main gaming platform.

>>715955505
>nobody uses the deck as a main gaming platform
what

>>715955505
At this point, I do. It obsoleted my consoles and took most of my time away from my desktop.

>>715948820 (OP)
Steam is less unethical than many other gaming companies so we need to support it even if their products might be sub optimal sometimes.

>>715948820 (OP)
I dont care about the Steam Deck, but Switch 2 owners need to be euthanized.

>>715955441
I do have one for work. I'm not really interested in getting another laptop just for gaming on my business trips.

>>715955468
I mean it's a necessarily extremely niche device that would, as a result, have a very small manufacturing quota since it's basically just for an extremely niche demographic of
>Niggas that would buy two computers, for gaming
It says less than you think, but it's still funny that money was wasted trying to prevent people from buying something they couldn't even buy at that point.

>>715955565
If you have a deck then you most likely already have a powerful PC.
Otherwise you should get your priorities straight.

>>715955595
The deck is still extremely efficient, as much as x86 can get. The only reason the switch is more efficient is because it uses arm, but arm is dogshit for compatibility and makes it harder to port things to. And when battery life is still awful on the switch, nintendo fans aren't any benefit from arm at all, only downsides.

>>715955248
Switch 2 has worse performance overall according to the graph. It has better performance per watt but I think you're too retarded to understand that 9W TDP vs 24W TDP is not such a large disparity when the 9W device is confined to a 20W/h battery and the 24W TDP device has a 50W/h battery.

Most games I play on my deck run at or under 13W TDP, btw, so I generally get 3.5-4.5 hour battery life. 24W is like pushing it to the absolute limit for diminishing returns.

>>715955605
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

>>715955634
oh you meant main as in the only/most powerful owned gaming device
guess that makes sense
but i did use it as a main gaming device while traveling and it did pretty good, especially with a dock/hub

>>715948820 (OP)
'eck has mods
Shitch 2 doesn't have mods

I will buy neither, but I am not mentally ill enough to ever praise the Shitch

>>715955619
the use your work laptop retard. its probably 3x the performance of a steam deck unless your laptop is running a fucking pentium then my condolences that you work at such a shit company and gaming is probably the least of your concerns

>>715955632
its not that people couldnt buy it, its that no one even wants it lol. Switch 2 outsold the entire lifetime sales in a single day. not even ROG ally with the ROG branding could convince people to buy these shitty handheld PCs. how buck broken are deckfags lmao

>>715955909
My work laptop is a linux machine with no dedicated GPU and strict policies on what I am and am not allowed to run on it. I could go around them, but just putting my deck in my bag is way easier.

>>715955632
>I mean it's a necessarily extremely niche device
I strongly disagree that the Deck is a niche device. It's a device for literally anyone who actually likes video games. By the definition, Nintendo's devices are more niche than the Deck and what it can do as it's FAR more limited, just Nintendo devices have far greater exposure. The only reason the Deck seems niche is because it doesn't have any marketing budget, no physical presence, and normalfags and casuals don't know it exists. That's not niche, that's just unknown, and unknown can change.

>>715955909
Also, the games I play on the go are all 10+ years old, so "performance" is not something I care about a lot.

>>715948820 (OP)
>At what point did you realize that the Steam Deck, being a gimped laptop
when it was announced.

>>715956036
oh youre a linuxfag. my condolences to your family

>>715956076
>its niche because it does less things than the other device
holy shit rajesh look up the work niche before using it

>>715956120
Not by choice. That's just what the company uses.

>>715948820 (OP)
Deck is a hastily put together piece of shit made out of binned laptop parts and stuffed in a box 3 sizes too small. Who could've seen this coming?

It's because only first-worlders are even able to buy a Deck, isn't it?

>/v/- Sour Grapes

>>715956076
It's technically accurate to describe the Steam Deck a really good gaming device, but the process to buy it (first hand) pretty much means you have to
>Have a steam account unless you're in Japan
>Presumably you could infer you've already spent a lot or willing to spend a lot on Steam already
>If you've spent a lot on Steam already you PROBABLY already have a good pc for playing videogames on.
Not that it's totally impossible but virtually everyone that buys one is someone that already has a gaming pc and that's a very small consumer base.
Hell I bought mine with TF2 hats.

>>715956173
>a specialized market or environment where certain organisms thrive
>but what does specialized mean?
>Designed for a specific purpose or use
Yes. Your device does far less and is therefore more niche. It's specialized for you Nintendo fanboys, whereas the Deck can play damn near everything and is for anyone who likes video games as a whole, and can do a lot more on top of that.
Also, don't try to pajeetpost when you can't even be assed to capitalize your sentences or use proper punctuation.

I remember when one of the VGAs was doing a steam deck giveaway and then suddenly several threads hit bump limit and the Deck was the best thing ever. You guys are so poor and stupid. Lmao. Love my deck by the way. What are you guys playing this morning?

>>715955006
last time I checked you can write your own software that it displays a few images and some text.

>>715956460
Dude you total retard.
The deck falls under category one.
Design doesn't apply but the methodology for buying one makes it a specialized market.

>>715956575
I didn't say it didn't.
>Your device does far less and is therefore more niche

>>715948820 (OP)
Fellas, it may be because one device came out 3 years ago, in a tech landscape evolving faster and faster, with one that came out like a month ago

>>715956346
>>715956372
>he doesnt know asian markets have PC and gaming shops selling bulks of steam decks
>>715956460
rajesh, it doesn't even say what you think it says. also, capitalizing on the internet is a dead giveaway that youre a brown who's trying too hard to use perfect english LOL

>>715956460
this is why it's so obvious you're brown. nintendo was simply selling a device to a niche market of 152 million users.

>>715956575
You're brown

>PSA
You all are arguing with Brazilians and Indians with a healthy mix of SEAfags and chinks. Good morning sirs.

>>715956660
Yes, there are first-world asian countries. Shame you're not in one of them. /v/ needs national flags like /biz/.

>>715956787
As a device yes, it is way more niche. The difference in who owns one is purely down the massive discrepancies in marketing and availability.

>>715956660
This conversation started with acknowledging Japan is like the one place you can buy Steam decks in retail (Although not in huge supply). Basically everywhere else you gotta be Gee, Bill! Two computers?
He's a retard for an entirely different reason for calling a switch/2 niche for being a shittier device than a deck.
Since children that walk into a walmart probably amounts to a way bigger demographic than people who'd buy a second gaming computer.

>>715957072
The switch is literally just a shittier, locked down, second computer

>>715956787
not a niche market
a hammer is a more specialised tool than a swiss army knife, but I guarantee way more people own hammers

>>715948820 (OP)
Some games are going to run better on Switch 2 than they do on Deck. That should come with having a dedicated port. The Deck does have more performance customization options, though, so you can still get playable (steady 30 / 40 fps) in a lot of bad ports and more demanding games.

And regardless, no one is buying a Deck at this point because they think the specs are significantly better than the Switch 2's. The devices are similar, overall, but Deck is dramatically cheaper in the long run due to software prices and pseudo backwards compatibility (with existing PC libraries and emulators). The Deck will miss out on modern releases, but it's not like the majority of those are very good. The only area that the Deck is ill-suited for in my opinion is with online multiplayer.

>tendies would rather post ITT than play their latest big release
lmao

>>715957176
>The only area that the Deck is ill-suited for in my opinion is with online multiplayer.
That's only in some competitive games, which are a small minority of overall online games.

>>715957134
Technically yes, you COULD describe it that way. Which makes the occasional nintendo retard pretending it's at all a good decision to buy a Switch to go along with a PC extra retarded.
But these are specifically gaming devices, and generally a consumer is probably going to mainly use one of these of the current or previous generation.

>>715957213
To be fair, it's like 4 hours long and sucks ass. Can't blame them.

>>715957213
Failed to beat E33's metacritic score so they don't care about it now

>>715948820 (OP)
Even if you don't use it portably, it's a great cheap gaming PC you can easily connect to a TV. I just played through Castlevania on my living room TV on it. I love Castlevania. And the Deck

>>715956892
oh, anon. these devices are bought in bulk, likely in hong kong, and exported to other shops overseas. they dont need steam accounts or queues. you can just walk into a gaming chain in regions like midle east or SEA and buy them because they just have imported stocks. how do you think nintendo or xbox consoles get sold in countries that they offically dont support? it's the same thing. people just dont buy it because laptops exist.

>>715957308
>Um did you know there's six million secret steam decks in Osama's hidey hole that failed to sell >:(

>>715957308
Yeah, that's why giveaways Steam Deck or otherwise always hit bump limit on this board. Some of you are poor. Some of you are stupid. Most of you are poor AND stupid. The rest just pretend to like video games.

>>715957308
The only way China would be able to get it in bulk is if they were smuggling it out of the manufacturing warehouses and selling it on the street.

>>715956475
Impressive. Very nice. Now make it cross-platform.

>>715952461
Deck is not competing with Switch to begin with. They have entirely difference audiences. It doesn't matter how good deck 2 is, it's not going to make any dent in Switch sales, and vice versa.

Can someone tell me how to take good screenshots?They all come lower quality than what they look in game?Is there some decky script?Same thing with game recording

>>715955075
>ungimp your hardware
>nintendo has a meltdown and bans your account
Tendies and all the other console cancer should be banned from this board.