Thread 715996530

Are you a Verso BRO or a Maelle SIMP?

renoir chad

>>715996530 (OP)
Verso was right.

what was his fucking problem?

>>715996530 (OP)
Painted people are real people. Verso deserved this

>>715996656
what no Clea pussy does to a mf
>>715996530 (OP)
Renoir and Verso are 100% right

>>715996656
He had to interact with Clea.

>tfw Maelle ending is canon because Maelle is a paintress so there's no way Verso ca beat her
feels good to be a Maelle-chad :)

>>715996530 (OP)
>Verso the perfectionist does everything wrong

>>715997071
Maelle is literally the MC. Of course it's canon.
First song of the OST is called Alicia. Last one is called Maelle.
Verso just has... his own theme and that's it.

>>715997071
>>715997242
I chose the Maelle ending because it's the correct choice and I think the Verso ending is the canon one.

>>715996530 (OP)
>gay french
No thanks.

>>715998352
>assblasted bong
as always kek

Guess I'm too old for this game. Even first battles timing for dodge seems impossible for me. Got wrecked my a mime and Maelee already.

>>715996530 (OP)
Verso was right but Maelle's ending was kino

>>715996530 (OP)
Maelle is perfection

>>715998789
everyone struggled with tutorial parrying. it gets easier after, just dodge for now

>>715999301
I can't dodge even one attack. Maelee does like 5s delays and then 0,0000001s instant attacks. Impossible.

>>715996530 (OP)
Sorry Gustave, this is my harem now. Lune, you take the legs.

>>715999000
Double trips truthnvke

Wish you guys used spoiler tags :(
Guess I will stay off /v/ until completion

>>716000018
What kind of idiot goes in a thread for a game they haven't finished on notoriously spoiler-happy /v/?

I didn't even VISIT /v/ for several weeks until I finished the game.

>>715996675
>>715997071
>>715999238
>escapism babies
Don't let your grief defeat you. Or at least, go out like a fucking legend if it really does consume you. Surely Alicia could suicide paint bomb some writer fucks?

>>715999000
>>715996695
>>715996631
>>715996530 (OP)
People who think Verso were right are always people with no compassion or respect for life.

Verso is literally just a nihilistic mass murderer, a Kefka type of villain. On top of all the constant lies and manipulation.

Doesn't mean he's not a sympathetic character though.

It's very simple. Weigh the existence of an entire world of sentient beings with their own stories vs. the well being of one family that sucks at coping with grief. If you don't pick Maelle, you're monster. Simple as.

>>715997242
>Maelle is literally the MC.
Then why are you forced to play as Verso in camp?

>>716000595
Even Verso's suffering in Maelle's ending can be seen as justified punishment for his crimes.

>>716000936
Not him but for the relationship mechanic, and endearing the player to Verso. Maelle really is the main character though because it's always her POV we follow when shit gets real. We never see inside Verso's thoughts like we do Maelle's. It's an interesting choice by the devs.

>>716000318
>people with no compassion or respect for life.
uh? verso ending respects both real life and artistic integrity
Maelle is disrespecting (real) verso's painting and uses it as escapism

>>716000318
>>716000595

It's just a temp victory though, the one that corrupts, potentially kills, one of the Painters. They get a few years, then real Clea fucks them up. She's on another level.

I'm a "why did the story suddenly forget about the people of Lumiere when it had literally spent the entire first act developing pathos around them?" chad, thank you very much.
The Dessandres all suck and I don't care about them.

Maelle is cute and wholesome
while Verso, or should I say Cringeso, is good for only one thing, playing the piano FOR ETERNITY

Realistically speaking, Alicia's ending is the canon one because painted Verso shouldn't be able to defeat painter Maelle

>>715998789
Just dodge bro, you can easily beat expert and do all side content with just dodge alone. It's only really worth parrying attacks that are highly predictable and/or only have a few attacks in their string.

Maelle died.
Alicia is fundamentally not Maelle despite having her memories.

>>716006614
You are extremely autistic and you have been spamming this in every thread for some autistic reason.

>>716006494
I'm mostly a dodgefag and I just reached a certain endgame boss (on expert with X2 enemy HP) that actually filters dodgers by healing 2 million HP every turn if you don't parry. I'm having to actually learn the parry timing for this one, which is... unfortunate since it's also the hardest parry timings of anything so far.

>>716007228
That was a fun boss. I mastered all the parries except for the "agile nevrons." Could never fucking get that one down.

>>716006614
Incorrect. Painted version of "real" people aren't their real world counterparts. Real world people who get painted over as happened to Alicia are genuinely their painted selves too because they actually lived those lives, not just have implanted memories.

>real verso was alright I guess, built a cool world and saved his sister
>painted verso is a compulsive liar and pro-genocide
>axon verso is a compulsive liar and does nothing on his dumb island

>real alicia is best girl and the mc
>painted alicia is the cutest pool of wisdom in the game
>axon alicia is having fun building her tower

that's 3 to 1, yep I think Alicia is BASED, no matter her incarnation

>Game sparks debate about it's ending
God I hope they never confirm either ending as cannon.

>>716007679
Real Verso was very likely a compulsive liar too

>>715996530 (OP)
stop shilling this faggot game you nigger

>>715997071
Source or btfo

>>715996530 (OP)
I'm doing an expert parry only run and the special Maelle sword might make it easier than just playing on normal, if you picked Maelle for the duel you truly didn't beat the game

>>715996530 (OP)
Why does this cunt have these crazy SSRI eyes? To appeal to the target audience?

>>715996575
fpbp. Saw this thread and wanted to post the same thing. I'm delighted it's the first post.

>>715996530 (OP)
VersoCHAD here. "I don't want this life" was so heartbreaking. It crushed me when I learned he couldn't find a reason to smile, wanting to escape his pain by killing himself instead of living life to the fullest. But my boy said the only time he really felt alive was playing the piano, so I hooked him up!

>>716002870
That is correct. The whole subtext of the game is that Clea is a prodigy and can do things far beyond even her parents. "Paint over a painting only Clea can do that." People also forget that the Nevrons save for a few are Clea's.

>>716009341
I thought it was kinda dumb Alicia was so willing to kill her painted self because it's what she wanted, but Verso's begging her to die and she makes him play the piano forever.

how much more window does dodge even have. I started this an hour ago and struggling with parrying. I wish there was a ingame battle mode to practice this. maybe i should wait for more updates or i am getting too old for this

>>716002870
Clea doesn't care enough about Alicia to get her out

>>715998789
Listen for the sound queues. Also push past the early sections and you'll begin to get a feel for the timings.

>>715996575
I agree. With Painted Renoir that is.

>>715996530 (OP)
Verso is sociopathic liar. Choosing his option because he was 'right' is in itself wrong.

Maelle is the childish option of arrested development, being unable to let go of imaginary worlds because you've become too attached to move on, even though y'know, variety is the spice of life.

Picking Verso's option because it achieves RENOIR'S goals is patrician as fuck. He wants what's best for his family, and he knows fighting over his dead son's minecraft world is fucking retarded and that they needed to learn to move on from their grief together. Choosing Verso's option because Renoir is right is the patrician move.

I'm a proud Maelle simp.

>>715996575
absolutely

>>715997071
>Maelle ending is canon
I really don't think so, and of the two I think her's is actually worse.
By the time Maelle can try to restore the painting everyone is already dead except for the party. Outside of her immediate friends/family, Maelle doesn't know anyone. Everyone else in the crowds are faceless entities, because she cannot restore those who she never knew. Its a mystery to me if Lune's parents or Sciel's husband are even close to who they actually were, or if Maelle just painted everyone to just accept whatever she could give them.
Maybe after a few generations the people of Lumiere can go back to normal, since they live actual lives full of experiences, its just this first initial restart are just 'blank' npc people who's children would be freaked out since there is like ten 'real' adults around.
Either way all of this is just temporary. Alicia in the real world cannot remain in the painting forever, she is nowhere near as strong as either her parents, or her sister. The only reason she succeeds is because her parents were already bogged down from however many weeks/months in the painting.
If literally anyone decides to crush her fantasy they could, and murder the painting again. Or they can wait it out, Alicia is a frail girl who would eventually either die or possibly pass out? Letting the family toss the painting into the fire.
There is no escaping the painting's destruction. Only accepting that in Verso's ending gives any feeling of good or hope

tl;dr: Staying in the delusions only makes the family worse off and will still kill the painting and everyone in it.

>>716009559
How fitting for a versofag to twist the truth to fit his own agenda.

For both P!Alicia and P!Verso, Maelle offers them an alternative to death first, which is the most reasonable one can do.
Maelle offers P!Alicia to repaint her face first, she refuses and instead asks for death, Maelle respects her wishes.
Maelle offers P!Verso the opportunity to grow old and to live out his passion at the opera, we can safely assume and now he's doing that. He's not playing the piano forever, he'll eventually die of old age.

>>716010527
>Staying in the delusions only makes the family worse off
That's a good thing though

>>716010606
.t Writer's Guild member

>>716009715
That's the interesting thing about Clea I can't say for certain she would help her either, nor can I say for certain that she won't.

>>716010579
>Maelle offers
Forces. pVerso is clearly not at all happy with the situation in the end. Why else would Alicia be using her painting power on him during the performance?

>>715996530 (OP)
is verso the biggest liar in all video games?

>Why else would Alicia be using her painting power on him during the performance?
2 posts, 2 headcanons
there's just no point arguing with versofags

>>716000318
Reddit is more your speed faggo

>>716000595
Reddit is that way >>716002892
You too

>>716011267
He is a clinical psychopath which is not something I think I've seen in a game before.

WHO ARE THE WRITERS?

>>715997071
>verso's last words
>I don't want this life! Help me!
and yet when maelle says it she's the bad guy. Verso fags are delusional

There is literally 0 point even arguing with maelle tards. Even the few of them that can read are NPCs that cannot pass the breakfast question

I don't really care who's 'right" (neither are). I chose Maelle because she's a good girl and fuck Verso.

I am first and foremost a SEXchad.

>>715996530 (OP)
Regardless, you choose Verso's ending because it's what's best for both.

>>716013178
why doth she have a member
fag

>>716013245
puffy hebe vulva fag

>>715996530 (OP)
An uninstall wizard

>>716012707
The painted people aren't real people. They make this pretty clear as we fuck up painted Renoir etc. The scary thing is, the 'people' that think Maelle was right to save the lives of non-existent people, are about to be surrounded by AI. I keep seeing more and more unhinged shit around AI, like people marrying it or going nuts because of it, and they simply won't be equipped to handle the simple fact that AI is not a real, sentient being.

>>715996530 (OP)
I’m a verso simp

>>716007982
>>716007679
Real Verso is probably still alive and betrayed to join the Writers tbdesu

>>716000318
Morality means nothing compared to Ideology and thematic resonance in a work.
In this Verso's ending delivers more on the thematic focus relating to grief and moving on than Maelle.

I can enjoy a fictional story without having it reflect on my IRL views on life. And in that regard IRL genociding a civilization to save a single girl is wrong and I would oppose it.
But in fiction? Its fiction.

Verso FEARED Gustave

>>716014149
He did. He's kind of a pussy in that regard. He knew Gustave would question him on a lot of his bs.

>>716013467
Renoir wouldn't have bothered apologizing to pVerso if he wasn't real.

>>716009715
>>716010839
She pulls her out, as long as she's got a chance of using her in her fight against Writers. Best thing about Versos ending is Clea just standing there, waiting for it to be all over so she can go do her thing. True Capone thing, there.

I somehow doubt that they will do a direct sequel, but if they do, Clea will be a major character in it. Either a vilain, or main.

>>716000318
Arguably, Verso's ending saves more in total. Sure one canvas is lost, but how many potential canvases are never made? With it, painters are all healthy in the end, they can all continue making new worlds. Maelle was shut in that didn't contribute a thing, after she enters she has her adventure, she encounters her ideal that her father painted for her in Axons, she's tested by adversaries her sister painted, and if she comes out, she's a full fledged painter. If she says in, she's a twisted god of that one world, but not much else.

>>716012721
Verso is a lying piece of shit who betrays his friends and family,I have no sympathy for that guy

>>716007228
Shields, revivals. It gives you time to learn the patterns. She'll be easy compared to Simon. Just don't give up and search for answers online for that one. One of the most rewarding battles in all gaming. You feel like a Boss after beating him on your own.

bring Gustave back in E33 2, its not fair...

https://youtu.be/ztbPkvqRiGg?si=oP6EGusKkUagIPVl

>>716014908
How would they even do a sequal. I think it's gotta be a whole new cast. In a new canvas. Maybe one painted by Clea.

>>715996530 (OP)
How many mallefags do you think kept supporting her because they waifufag'd her for too long ever since the trailers to give up now?

>>715996530 (OP)
Donkey Kong Bananza mogs this turd

>>715996530 (OP)
Neither. I will always and forever be a Gustavechad. Which by the way, he's actually an insanely popular character, I don't think they intended for him to stick to people that much. He was so likeable, shame he got HON HON HON game of throne'd for no reason other than forced drama.

>>716015421
I only watched the very first trailer and decided "I'll buy this game." So I wasn't locked in to Maelle until I actually started playing the game

>>716015421
Not many, considering few knew this game even existed prior to release. Most of us "support" not going full retard and nuking the canvas after 30+hours trying to save it for family drama we have little reason to give a shit about. Maelle being cute is just a bonus.

Why didn't the paintress just have them die of natural causes and then make them all sterile so they don't make more? Why does it have to be some demiurgical logans run?

>>716015580
Gustave works because his mission is incoherent and he just doesn't know it
>I'm gonna PFUCKING KILL THE PAINTRESS
>the only reason you lived as long as you did was from the painters
Which places Gustave and the player between the choices of "do we force this forever? Or do we put an end to it?"

>>716015580
It's fucked, but in a way he represents simpler, better times despite their scenario being completely doomed. He's my nigga.

>>715996530 (OP)
This game is gay as fuck.

>>716016230
not as gay as you are lol

>>716013178
wtf are those her actual proportions?

>>716015580
The gommage scen was too good. All the suffering of the Dessendres is rendered completely pointless in comparison.

>>716009559
He literally dies right before the start of her epilogue.

>>716014908
>Give me a sequel! I don't want to let go, I want to stay in this pretend world forever!
Way to miss the entire message of the game lol
Also E33 was good but it felt like lightning in a bottle, I'd prefer if the team tried something thematically similar but otherwise unrelated for their next project. That way if they fail they don't taint the original game by association.

Also while E33 was definitely a good game in its own right I think the wider audience just has AAA fatigue at the moment and they really wanted to latch on to some scrappy underdog story about a plucky little studio that came out of nowhere and showed the big boys how it's really done. Even though the scrappy underdog story feels like a marketing op somehow.
Kind of like how people latched on to Dark Souls so hard back in ~2012 when games were brainless linear QTE-fests, because it wasn't actually the HARDEST GAME EVAR, it just reminded people that it's okay to challenge the player a little bit and to trust them to figure things out for themselves without being beaten over the head.