I like it.

>five bucks for a game you could play on the back of a newspaper

>>716055470 (OP)
it's alright

>>716055470 (OP)
It's so over for fagosis.

>>716056241
>at least 200 sales on a game that took probably less than a year and not very much money to make
i think he's fine

>>716056241
Guess I'll buy some extra copies for friends

>>716056368
>200 sales * £5
>steam takes 30% cut
>£700pa salary
holy shit that poor guy

>>716056241
imagine how many indie game devs there are out there that spent years making their game that would kill for these numbers. They release their game and its just NOTHING but maybe friends and family checking it out

>>716056241
>>716056368
thats concurrent players, not sales. right now 200 people are playing the game, but that doesnt have to be the same 200 players from 1 hours ago. So sales numbers are most definitely beyond 1000 units after a few hours. will be beyond 2000 by the end of the day. 3000 to 4000 by the end of the week

i kind of wish the focus was purely on the bombs, the fact that you have to get the walls/blanks correct on rows that have nothing to do with redirecting explosions makes this game feel less like it's own thing and more blatantly like picross with one minor gimmick. though to be fair i'm still not that far in

Is the guy from the last thread who got filtered by God Hand still around? I really want to know what particular part of the game buck broke him so hard he genuinely believes anyone who plays the game above level 2 is cheating, let alone beats it on hard mode.

>>716058502
>>716056368
>>716056241
he apparently refused to open it up for presales because he didn't want people to just buy it to support him and then never play it, so unless you were a patron who got a key, you couldn't even buy it til today. pretty based move given how every other game dev/publisher is begging people to buy months in advance (or worse, early access years in advance)

>>716059465
>filtered
Unlike every God Hand "fan" I can play the game above level 2.

I'm glad he got something out but I'd like to see something from him with a story. I always thought he had better story critiques than gameplay critiques despite being a programmer (and the opposite with hamsterson despite him being a "writer")

>>716059620
>script by owen
>gameplay and coding by matt
Now that I would pay $60 plus tip for

>everyone last thread calling it a minesweeper clone
have these niggas never played picross?

Wtf am I doing wrong here

>>716059269
I wish it was like picross, the fact that it doesn't tell you how the walls are spaced out is the hardest part of the entire game.
Either that or I'm clinically retarded.

>>716056241
>My quirky soulful indie RPG will never get these numbers because I'm not a faggy youtube essayist

Life is unfair....

>>716059570
But that doesn't answer my question, what part of the game buck broke you so hard you think no one on the planet has beaten hard mode without cheating?

>>716060205
This is the level of reading comprehension I'd expect from a GH fan.

>>716060029
Two of your bombs are hitting each other.

>>716060629
That's a rule? That hasn't been stated up to this point.

>>716060921
it has, you just weren't paying attention

>>716055470 (OP)
he made it sound like he's done after this one

like it was his dream to make a game and now that he's made one he's not going to do anymore

kinda lame, considering how modest this game is. better than nothing I guess

>>716060921
Two puzzles before the one you are currently on.

>>716061220
Fuck this, now it feels like I'm bugfixing. If I wanted to suffer through programming, I'd do fuckign programming.

>>716061178
Several patreon posts ago now he said it would depend on the reception to the game. If it does well enough he'll continue, otherwise he'll do something else.

>>716061178
i didn't get that impression at all but maybe i missed a post

>>716056241
>passion project
>cheap to make, really only his time
>5 bucks
I think he'll be fine. He'd probably be fine with it even if literally no one bought it.

is there ever a point where you kind of have to "guess" for a wall? i've had a few puzzles (early ones) where I knew a row needed one more wall so I just put it in the column that had the highest number even though I didn't know for sure that was the spot to put it. it hasn't bitten me in the ass yet but i'm hesitant to keep doing that if it's not intended so i don't fuck an entire solution up

>>716061942
You never have to guess

>>716061178
>"I'll have a game out, watch it bomb, have a good laugh and then I'll ride off into the sunset to work in the finanacial district or something."

No way to just restart a whole level if you fucked up? A bit painful to need to reset every block

>>716062261
hold right click from the level select on the level

>>716061994
thanks matt

What's my next move (and why)?

>>716059465
honestly lvl die is dumb.
guards becoming unreactable means your only viable opener is jab>jab>guard break and the only reliable method of CC being CH launchers makes groups of enemies repetitive

>>716063075
Is this the game? This looks way better for some reason

>>716063562
The PC version has a sketchbook theme, that's the one I'm using.

It's Picross so it's fun but not having the reset function right in the level itself is pointlessly annoying. Cipher Zero comes out tomorrow too so I guess I'll play both of them at the same time.

>>716058502
No one besides his Youtube audience is buying this. Even if he sells as many units as you claim, after steam takes their cut he makes about 1-2 months wages.

>only cares about the game because his favourite sloptuber made it

>>716058212
That comes with the territory when you democratize every medium

>>716063769
he lives in the irish countryside, one sale can buy enough potatoes for him and his gf to survive on for a month

>>716063075
I had to retry this one about 3 times, I got stuck at the same place. I cheated a little with the hint.

>>716063075
these can't connect because the bomb is a "1" and you can only place one more block on that row,
so the demon has to connect to the bomb on the extreme right

dam, level 6 was kinda hard and then the next few are baby-tier. guess it's supposed to be the "wall" before the game opens up

>>716064968
I'd prefer to avoid that if possible...
>>716065183
Aha! Thank you.

>>716055470 (OP)
>came up with picross for his first release
Even Modern Nitrome has more originality.

>hold select to show
what is "select" on PC?

>>716066060
click the top left corner button

>>716055470 (OP)
this hack fraud literally made minesweeper lmfao truly the king of slash vee

God damn is this boring.

>>716066060
Middle click.

>>716066060
h

>>716065440
Idk.
Bungie started with Gnop! which was literally just Pong! with the title spelled backwards, and they went on to make the first game to make more in a year than any hollywood blockbuster from its release year with Halo 3, so...

i dont understand how the top left hint option works. is it displaying the number of walls remaining?

>no QoL features because the game has to run on gameboy, something only 0.3% of his customers will use
pure autism

>>716066584
It gives you an indication of how many walls are placed in the wrong location.

>>716058212
Marketing matters anon. The lazy "indie" bastards can't even think outside the box and make some viral trailers for their games lmao.

>>716066589
I suspect there is a logical reason for this

>>716066589
I thought so too but you can reset from level select at least
Only complaint is Xs overwriting placed walls, but it's not a big deal

>>716066991
The game not telling you which columns/rows have too many walls is also ridiculous. There's no reason and the game quickly devolves into wall counting.

>open map
>intentionally place three walls in a place you know shouldn't have walls
>go through the entire grid placing one block and then checking if more than 3 walls are "wrong" with the check feature
>beat every map
gg ez

>>716056241
Watch that number plummet in the next week.

lack of polish and qol is unbelievable. you could not convince me this actually took time to make.

>>716066648
It's cute because <3 looks like a heart.

>>716066589
The kind of guy to make you press A+B+Start+Select just to restart a level and call it a "feature". Feels like he built the whole thing on a toaster out of spite for Unity.

>>716067141
Oh right I would like it to go back to white if I put too many walls down

>>716067281
spoken like someone who has never written one line of code

>>716066991
>Only complaint is Xs overwriting placed walls, but it's not a big deal
He commented on the steam forums saying that'll be part of the first patch.
He doesn't know when that'll be though since he's reticent to update it so soon.

>>716059470
>he apparently refused to open it up for presales
Steam usually doesn't allow indie devs to put their games out for pre-order.

What's the official status of Mushido?
>cancelled
>indefinite hiatus
>we don't know
>will begin working on it after logic bombs

>>716067429
>resistant to updating a game to address issues
so he's lazy too?

Stuck again

>>716055470 (OP)
Where's the torrent?

>>716067586
I assume he just doesn't want to break anything and potentially introduce bugs by changing stuff. Plus he just released it which I assume is pretty nerve-wracking, if it were me I don't think I could go right back into it without at least a little break.

>>716067557
>Mushido?
If you want castlevania+ghosts and goblins just play the arcade version of Tiger Road.

>>716067767
If you are afraid you are going to break your own game with a patch then you should not be making games. Is he not confident in his own idea?

>>716067732
Your top left bomb is hitting two dudes.
Might want to reset.

>>716055470 (OP)
Play the original. It's free and way better
lexaloffle.com/bbs/?pid=dungeons_and_diagrams-5

>>716067864
When it's coded to run on a gameboy it's probably very finicky

>>716067557
i think it's officially on "indefinite hiatus", though i feel like at this point if he goes back to it, he'll rebuild it from the ground up anyway so it may as well be cancelled

>>716067586
it's not really a bug imo. plus the game hasn't even been out 12 hours, a little soon to throw a hissy fit over this

Using the hint system you can cheese the game. Surprised he would release an IMPERFECT game.

>>716068696
he explicitly says you can use it to "cheat" in one of the early levels

>>716068696
he addressed this issue with a comment directly in the game

>>716068696
but did you see all the words he typed to describe how the game has no features as if they would be distractions? it is perfectly imperfect.

>blocks your path
fuck me, i'm too dumb for this shit

>>716068696
>cheese
It's not a cheese, you simply used pure logic and won in an unconventional way.

Can we stop saying it's about logic? It's about counting spaces and trying not to lose track of it.

>>716069070
In a REALM OF PURE LOGIC, is it logical to cheat?

>>716068908
Figuring out this column got me started. It took me a while to find out.

>>716069158
That's interesting. I started with the 3s.

>>716069158
I started with the top row thinking since there's only 1 wall then the 2 bomb there must connect to the 2 cats on the same row. Maybe there was a flaw in that assumption but I don't know.

>>716069158
>>716069401
ah yeah i've got something cooking now by looking at the 3s and figuring out they both have at least one guy they HAVE to hit. thanks lads

>>716068875
I somehow knew this game would be full of cheeky fuckery
Eager to try it when I get the chance in a little bit

>>716069514
i don't think you can make that assumption if you haven't ruled anything else out? 2 bomb on first row could go vertical. or could hit one horizontal and one vertical

>T-the g-game has no secrets! I swear!

New update just dropped. He fixed EVERYTHING.

>>716069738
feels more like he has to stretch the truth about what the game offers falsely claiming it is more than it is

>>716070074
I've not played it
but how far have you gotten?

>PirateSoftware's game looks better than this
What the fuck Matthew?

>>716068908
>>716069158
For me it was these two

wish there was a way to "mark" little arrows on a space to map out what bombs you think will kill what guys, like as a note. i know i could just do that shit in ms paint but i don't like having to leave the game for that kind of thing

>>716055470 (OP)
I completed every single Picross game on the 3ds, and a couple on GBA and DS.
Should I get this game?

>>716070063
>I don't know when I'll feel comfortable
>turns out it was an hour later
Sasuga Matthew-san...

>>716066589
>something only 0.3% of his customers will use
Mayabe 0,003% and I'm being generous

Are they cats or demons? Cat demons?

Anyone got a mega?
you can upload the game folder, cracking is easy enough.

>>716056241
He gets 1.4k on patreon for doing nothing.
that's easily livable in half of europe and probably the US too outside cities.

>>716070740
>got insecure about these threads

>>716055470 (OP)
These people could never make a game as good as Portal 2 with its custom map maker

>>716071270
i guarantee you people will be dumping codes today

>>716071605
>One person could never make an AAA game
no shit

>>716070681
That's what the X/right click does, you map out the path from the bomb to the monster.

>>716066589
>gameboy
And neither on Android nor or iPhone lmao. Should have made an extra hipster crank version for Playdate.

Already getting filtered by the first puzzle because I am playing this too much like picross and thought that every wall had to be connected.

>>716071749
but it doesn't have directionality, some of the complicated puzzles with a lot of bombs/monsters could benefit from this imo

>>716071751
emulate the gameboy version on android.

I'm already getting filtered. Am I retarded?

>>716056241
To understand why this is a bad thing, we have to confront a hard truth that few people seem to want to face about eceleb games, including Matthewmatosis himself. But here it is: the gameplay is nothing remarkable.

>>716071031
I only thought of them as demons until people ITT started calling them cats

>>716071969
I can see how that would be helpful to someone.
For me it'd be marking certain spaces to remind me that one of them has a wall, like when you write the little numbers in a sudoku box.
>>716072067
The bottom left blue dudes need to be zoned off from each other, as the tutorial on the right demonstrates.
If you look at the 3 and the 7 and think about how you can separate them while making sure each zone has a bluey, and at least one bomb and one monster, you should be able to solve it.

>>716072067
I've only done Picross once in my life before and the first level took me a while since I had to look up the rules and I'm slowly going through it now.

Is there no reset puzzle option or what?

>>716072330
Hold X/B/Right-click over the level in the main menu.

>>716072330
hold rmb on the puzzle in the menu

>>716072390
The fuck?

>>716055470 (OP)
what's this? a new name for trvth nvkes?

>>716072067
first column, you know the blue guy has to be connected to a purple dude, so the space above it has to be blank to make that connection

>>716072517
>last 14 levels are all swastikas
what did he mean by this

Okay now is there a "fill all with X" button? Why do I have to manually fill in the squares where I don't think there are walls, especially if i've filled all the walls....

>>716072390
>>716072401
thx

>>716072717
lel

>missing all the fun because I'm a wage slave

>>716072732
There's no undo either, probably because there's not enough buttons. Holding A is to place walls, holding B is to place Xs, holding select shows you the Hint, holding start... I don't know what it does (if anything).

>No cheevos

>>716072962
no anything. this shit costs money to download too.

>>716067145
>open google
>look up guide
>beat every map even faster than you
You gotta up you game, fag

I will ..buy.. Matthewmatosis' game and there's nothing he or (You) can do about it

>>716067145
You cheated not only the game, but yourself.

so I need to make sure the 2 bombs hit two people, also make sure that the blue guy is protected and also make sure the bombs don't hit each other
the walls are just there to represent which ones would hit the blue
man this is tough

Witness a game literally no soul on this planet would bother downloading if it were not for the association to the youtuber who created it. This is the world you exist in now.

>>716073717
it'd sell like ten copies on itch

>>716073717
>Guy makes years of good takes about games
>Makes a game
>Fans decide to buy his game
>Game is fun

Why are you so mad?

>>716073717
That's the way the world has always been. You do in fact need to market your games.

>>716073717
>witness a game that
>if nobody knew about it
>nobody would buy it
Damn
Logic Bomb

>Game isn't allowed to have multiple solutions
Not very logical. I hope matt can take some criticism because this is retarded

you can go play free versions of it already. you only buy this one because his name is on it.

>>716055470 (OP)
Is the game worth it at all? like is there any good music? story? or is it just purely puzzles? cause if it just that then I already have enough puzzle games to get through

>>716073523
I did it

>>716073717
i definitely would not have bought this (largely due to the simple presentation) but i'm enjoying my time with it all the same. at the end of the day, that has nothing to do with whether the game is fun and more to do with how advertising works

>>716074406
based ratto

the fuck is up with these things outside the box? guess it just means they're x and walls respectively

>>716074234
>Bombs must not hit other bombs
You are the retard

>>716074234
Your bottom two bombs are going to hit each other.

>>716074568
it's just a hint that a row/col with 0 will be all X and a row/col with 10 will be all walls

So once you finish all the puzzles then that's it? Nothing else to do?

>>716074594
>>716074614
i'm gonna kill myself for speed reading the rules....it's over

>another update
Slow down, bro.

goddam, can't even figure out one space on this one

>have to gift games to steam friends directly now, can't just buy a key anymore
dam, i would've bought like 10 copies and just posted them here. why is steam gay now

>>716073849
lmao
LVGIC BVMBED

uhh

>>716074291
It is purely puzzles, nothing else.

>>716075278
oh fug

>>716075278
You probably have to restart that puzzle, it just got patched because the original solution had a mistake.

>>716075445
Yeah it's fine now, my screenshot was actually from replaying my pre-patch solution after the update

>>716075223
Probably to avoid credit card fraud.

Okay now what's the LOGIC behind this one not being solved?

>>716075869
each area has to have one blue guy AND at least one enemy, your bottom half is fucked

>>716075869
Your bottom left crystal must be in a zone with at least one bomb and monster.

>>716075869
Each zone has to have exactly one diamond and at least one enemy. You boxed in your lower-left diamond. Your lower middle has a diamond, but your lower right doesn't.

beating these feels pretty satisfying
every so often I'll use the hint thing to make sure I'm not totally fucking up though. I think it only tells you if you've placed 3 or more that are wrong, not just 1 or 2 that're wrong

>>716075869
>>716075939
also i think you fucked something up in your third/fourth column that is making the bottom harder than it needs to be

>>716075939
>>716075993
Weird I guess. I didn't understand that that's what he was trying to convey with "zone". I see how the example image shows that NOW but could've been conveyed better idk

>>716076173
It'd be nice if the game could convey its rules via images alone, but I feel like it'd be too cryptic.

>>716076094
I like that the lowest number of corrections is <3

>>716075353
Sounds like shit desu, like if you're going to make a puzzle game then at least have something else to it, having no story is fine for this kind of game but no music? the least he could've done for a paid game is hire some random musician to score it

>>716075223
Weird, I still see keys being posted here

>>716076893
you can still get them from resellers, idk how they get their hands on them, but normal customers can't get them from steam directly

>>716076679
Probably hard to find a random musician that can compose/arrange music for the Gameboy.
If he had infinite money maybe he could've gotten Anamanaguchi but otherwise it's just something most people will turn off so they can listen to their own music. I know this because I'm 3 hours in and still haven't beaten the first set of stages. I don't know how many songs he could possibly stick in the cart but I can only imagine they'd get repetitive and grating after playing for so long.

>>716076679
it feels as dead and sterile as his videos

Alright, someone post the download link already, shit's probably not even 10mb just upload it.

>>716077212
It's $5, no reason not to buy it cunt

>>716077313
Sorry Matthew, i don't buy shit from youtubers, even if i like you.

>>716055470 (OP)
I like it too. There are a few QoL improvements I hope he makes but on the whole I think he did a good job.

>>716077313
That's five more dollars than I would be willing to spend on it.

>>716077212
Sent ;)

>>716077030
I don't even think it would've been that hard to do it, he could've even done it himself if he really wanted to, even if he can't write music it wouldn't be that hard to just transcribe some old classical music into gameboy tracks, music is the soul of any game regardless of how good the actual gameplay is
>>716077119
I might've seen them but honestly just by looking at the game on it own; it offers nothing you can't get from literally anywhere else

>>716077605
If you can't even bother to spend $5 on it then why do you think you'd bother to play it beyond the tutorial?

>>716077776
I don't think I would. There is no reason I would play this on my own willingly.

>>716077776
I think i'd bother to play it because it looks fun and he said that it started as a dungeon and diagrams clone so it can't be all bad. Hopefully he adds a "inifinite level" like D&D, but i am not aware if the gba can make levels on the fly even if the rules are set.

I'm so close with this one I can fucking taste it
pretty sure I have to protect the blue tear even if it passes through a red first

I'm impressed by the many working parts of it but so far i'm not enjoying how arbitrary the rules get
>Bombs need to blow up the minions
>Bombs can't blow up other bombs or the stars
>You need to place the exact amount of walls in each row
Okay sure fine
>Also you need to fill out every single square, with either a wall or an X
>Also every star also has to connect to minions with an X, no walls inbetween
>Also also, it has to be exact spots I programmed, this isn't a multiple answer puzzle game!
Really puts me off.

Has someone made a steam review with "Hello ladies and gentlemen" in it yet?

>>716078248
>Also also, it has to be exact spots I programmed, this isn't a multiple answer puzzle game
?
I mean, yeah, this isn't a zachtronics game, it's pretty draconian on answers. No clue what you expected there.

>>716078248
It's a LOGICAL game. There is only LOGIC. Clearly you are not fit for the REAL OF LOGIC

>>716078378
>>716078423

>>716078248
>>Also also, it has to be exact spots I programmed, this isn't a multiple answer puzzle game!
post an example of an answer that fulfilled all rules but wasn't accepted?

>>716078049
I can confirm you are very close; you have 4 wrong spaces.

>>716067429
>>716067586
>>716067767
>>716067864
He's already patched it

>>716079028
this is autism, your "solution" doesn't match the numbers so it's wrong. if you just got rid of the numbers on the sides then the game would be trivial

>>716079028
The two 1 bombs on the bottom left blow each other up until you change it so they don't, yeah.

Beat the first row, fun game so far.

>>716056241
logic...bombed...

>>716079028
Are you serious?

Actually made me smile, fucking hell.

it's trending

>>716075869
Please read the rules

>>716075278
wow, a secret level!

>>716079884
Not for me...

>>716079129
I'm losing my shit. no matter what I've always got a fucked amount of walls, always one over

>>716080901
You have one too many walls in column 3.
Spoiler: Your row 4 is incorrect.

I feel like I'm guessing too much. Sometimes it feels like it's easier to coinflip and then correct mistakes backwards.

>>716081030
nvm got it, that took a while

>>716081060
stop cheating, shortcuts means you didn't beat the game.

>>716081252
At least you did it; I've given up on a couple of puzzles already (my excuse is I'm actually at work and shouldn't be focused on gaming).

>>716081060
Most people consider that cheating. They consider the goal to be able to justify every single move with logic.

>matthewmatosis hasn't posted on /v/ for years
>scooby hasn't posted on /fit/ for years
it's over

>>716064968
There are hints?

>>716081686
top left corner

>"I HAVE DREAM PROJECT"

>dream project is a retro looking clone of a better game

Kill all IdeaGuys

He really should've added a 3rd mark for connecting bombs to enemies because this shit gets so messy and confusing when you have most/all the board filled out and are wrong.

I'm trying to do 13 and 15 and it getting the wrong answer feels near impossible to reverse my issues without starting issues. "skill issue" or w/e but christ

>get stuck on a level for like 30m to an hour
>do the next one in barely 5 minutes

>>716081448
This seems like something Matthewmatosis would say

I kind of wish we could place "half" walls when early on two places seem valid.

go fuck yourself

>>716082090
It's definitely easier to just reset the entire level than trying to fix it sometimes.
>>716082327
Same.
>>716082409
This one's actually really really easy once you figure out the one wall.

>>716061606
That’s disappointing to hear. Regardless of its success he should use it as a learning lesson and continue. He’s no longer a nodev.

>>716077119
So not dead or sterile at all, then? Think I'll buy a copy

>>716082090
Bombs to enemies you just mark with empties.
But I do wish the game had a third mark for a tentative wall.

>>716055470 (OP)
Any waifus?

>>716079028
this is literally that comic about a guy calling you a tryhard while playing tic-tac-toe like a retard but with picross instead

>>716083351
Sadly not. This is the first puzzle game I've played in a while that isn't an H game. Not counting Zachtronics.

>>716083470
what are some ludo H-puzzle games?

>>716083691
Not him but I only really know of Dog Princess.
Unless you count Park Toucher Fantasy MAKO and Hizashi no Naka no REAL as puzzle games.

Are there any messages after the first 10 puzzles or so? I liked seeing them.

post progress

some of the ones on row 2 i didn't really attempt, just say they didn't have super obvious starting points and moved on to see what the next was

>>716082090
nah i agree with you, a "note" mark letting you see where you planned a bomb to go would help a lot on some of the levels that have a bunch of bombs/enemies clustered

>>716084319
yeah i've seen a couple but they're not really hints or anything, just "muh logic" flavor text

Oh yeah, matthew is autistic

>>716084552
:)

>>716082409
I found this puzzle to be very annoying, just guessing positions until I managed to get it.

>>716055470 (OP)
did he use gb studios to make this

>>716084881
>Hitchcock reference
Based.

>>716082409
this and some others i didn't really use "logic" like the game seemed to imply, just kind of started something and then did some edits and got it. not sure if that's really intended, i got the impression that there is "supposed" to always be at least one square you can figure out objectively without having to guess but maybe i'm autistically reading into the instructions too deeply

>>716084931

>>716067739
it's a gameboy rom it's 128kb you don't need a torrent

Literally going out and marking this shit in paint just to have a decent reference to where my shit is and yes I know i'm wrong but that's why this shit is helpful

>>716086179
i don't think this is too far off, mostly just have to get rid of unnecessary walls at this point

>>716086000
>Match and Co.
?

>Spacechem
>Baba is You
>Railbound
>Void Stranger
I just made peace with the fact that I'm a brainlet who can't go pass 1/3 of these kinds of games. As much as I like the idea of playing yet another puzzle game, I think I'll have to pass

>one of those puzzles where every bomb has multiple options on directions they could go
>just say fuck it and pick one
>ends up working
logic bomb my balls

>>716086715
on GB version it says Match Dunne
Guessing it's a play on the pseudonyms old devs would use in the credits of Atari/NES games

Why does this dude fuck his sister tho?

>>716086992
that's where I'm at now with this one. have no real idea how I'm meant to figure this out and feel like I have to guess a lot of them

>>716087473
you can't have any gaps that don't have a blue and a monster, so that should help you fill in that bottom left area. idk if you've gotten to that rule tho

>>716087473
Why do you have a bunch of spaces on the 9 rows? Reminder each one of those counts as a "zone" and therefore needs a crystal and monster to be valid.

>>716087643
>>716087667
oh yeah, I see it now. I guess because it didn't say 'each zone MUST' I assumed it didn't work that way

>have to exit level to reset the level
>levels are not named or numbered
>just have to remember which level you were on when you reset
not the end of the world, but now that i'm doing them out of order, this is a bit annoying. if for "some reason" it's literally impossible to reset inside the level, the title of the level or number should at least be displayed inside the level and then again when you're hovering over the level on the select screen. if i've spent 20 minutes on a level, i probably don't remember i'm on level 25 or whatever when i go to reset

>>716084552
Think I'm gonna stop for now, this game is massive and quite difficult but fun.

This is just spicy minesweeper

>>716088474
Damn anon, nice job.

remembering that each sparkle/monster group needs to be walled off makes a lot of puzzles easier

>>716088265
The game shows a symbol for levels you've visited but not completed

I don't fucking understand dude this shit is retarded. Am I seriously missing something that you're supposed to figure out or is this pure trial and error?

>>716088760
yeah but i've visited several to take a quick peek and then left, or started a little bit and then left when i got stuck. it's not the end of the world, but it's not like there isn't space to put this stuff on screen either

>>716089046
Rule Six retard.

>>716089046
any enclosed area has to have exactly one blue gem and at least one bomb + monster. you cant have those little single blank spaces surrounded by walls, and your left area has two blue gems. you've got the right idea with the diagonal, you're just gonna have to split the board into three areas (one for each gem)

>>716089046
zzzzzzz

>>716089636
based and retard-pilled

>>716055470 (OP)
someone upload the gb rom to catbox, i wanna play it

>>716090068
go get 5 dollars, shitter

>>716055902
the newspaper costs five bucks....

>>716090729
no.

>>716088686
Yeah the hardest levels are the ones with only one crystal

>didn't even tweet about the game
based autist

>>716091840
Didn't he say he's going to do a stream for the launch?

>>716092540
i don't remember him saying that (at least not for the day of) but I was kind of hoping for one. almost midnight in potato land so probably not today unless he's on a full degen schedule

>>716092540
He mentioned about doing a stream about how he went making the game after people have had some time with it.

Honestly I like the 8bit theme a lot more

Has anyone gotten super far into the game? Surely it can't all be beaten by cheating right?

>>716095216
Abusing the hint system? As long as you know for certain where 3 walls aren't supposed to be you can cheese the rest of the level, yeah.

>>716095216
I mean. If you wanted to just look up the solutions there's nothing stopping you.

>>716095030
I liked it when I was using a controller but once I started using a mouse I switched to the modern theme, it feels slightly larger so easier to click things

>>716095690
I feel like there's no way he doesn't know this so there has to be some kind of mix up later on that makes it way harder to abuse this but im still on the second row

What is the logic for figuring out the first move on this puzzle? There's really only two starting moves and the solution falls out of one, but I can't figure out how you pick the right one without trial and error.

>>716096614
>I feel like there's no way he doesn't know this
He does
There's a level early on that tells you about the hint system and says something like "If you try hard enough you can use this to cheat, the choice is yours"

>>716096614
He knows.
But like >>716095704 said if you're gonna go that far you might as well just look up the solutions online.

>>716085729
no that's exactly what he meant by 'no guesswork'

the 'diagonals are ok' line seemed a bit confusing to me, tho
even if it's fairly obvious in context

>>716096625
I'd try to figure out which reds only have the possibility of hitting one, unlike the others than can hit two
and look at which bombs will hit the blues so you know what ones need to be blocked

>>716056241
Better than Onirism.

Not gonna lie, I don't care for the levels where the whole level is just figuring out how to zone out all the diamonds.

Give it to me straight: is this voltorb flip

i'm not subscribed to this guy but if that's the case then i'll give it a whirl

>>716096625
For the third column and the 8th row the wall must be inbetween the bomb and blue guy, so you can mark xs outside of those ranges.

>>716082409
This and a few others I think get easier if you realize sometimes Matt is clearly 'going for something' with a puzzle. Here at least it's clear that each combo bomb/enemy/diamond needs its own area, from that point you need to draw the logical conclusion about how walls must be placed in order to preserve that. If you can't figure that out here you'll get filtered by later puzzles as well, it's a pretty essential thing to pay attention to.

is this just discount baba is you?

>>716097631
at worst, it's completely distinct in puzzle style, but it is very similar in the fact that it's all clever reasoning.

>>716095216
>>716096614
1st 3rd row puzzle. He knows

>>716097343
It's pretty straightforward once you see that you just need to prevent the diamonds from touching.

>>716097940
I already solved that one, it's just a good example of the kind of levels I don't like.

It really feels like i'm cheating on some levels
i see a pattern in the numbers that makes me think of a pattern on the board, and just intuit it onto the board and it's been working

>>716098054
yeah i've been skipping around a lot. if a level has a 0 or 10 on it, i'll try it then and there. if it looks like one that will revolve around zoning gems or has a fuck ton of monsters, i'll skip and come back to it

>>716097631
Baba is you is sokoban
This is hanji

>>716098307
yeah sometimes i'll have one wall left to put in a row, see that one of the columns has a higher number, so i'll just put it there expecting to get punished for my laziness but it's worked out almost every time so far

>>716097631
it has pretty much nothing in common with baba

>>716055470 (OP)
Where's the Rapidshare link? I ain't paying 5 bucks for a Dungeons and Diagrams rip-off.

my le bomb... is le logical?

Are the question mark rows guaranteed to have at least one wall or can they potentially be 0?

>>716100821
i would think that ? means ?

>>716100821
They can be 0

I've only played a little picross but the idea that you're "placing walls" when you click a tile annoys my brain a bit. It's really easy to mentally interpret it as carving out the space

>>716101432
i've been placing all the empty places first, which seems like a pretty obvious choice on many puzzles, so that may not be a problem as you go forward.

my le logic bombs... le killed cats?

are picross games actually similar to this? I saw a stream of Matt playing Mario's Picross and it seemed comfy

>>716100821
i just put whatever works for the other columns there and it works every time. honestly feels like it makes levels easier rather than harder

>>716102210
picross has pretty simple rules and usually not much learning from puzzle to puzzle
this is a very heavily wrought list of puzzles

>>716102210
Picross is much simpler, it has similar rules where they tell you how many blocks that need to be filled in a row but what makes it simpler is that all blocks must be touching so there's a lot of absolutes. There's a lot of sites you can mess around with them, I do this one daily

pixelogic.app/daily

I've solved this puzzle already, but I feel like I took a leap of logic I shouldn't have and its bugging me.

What is the next "logical" step here? I understand that the two slimes on the bottom need to be separated, but how do I logically form the barrier without minor guesswork of the shape? The other walls to protect the other slimes have multiple potential spots as well.

Am I stupid?

>>716102604
c1r3 should have a wall, so that the slime has room and you satisfy c1's count

>>716102789
r3 counting bottom to top ;3

>>716102604
The bottom left blue cannot have a wall above it, since every zone HAS to have at least one monster. Then keep applying that logic.

>>716102789
>>716102851
>>716102932
Got it, thank you anons.

>>716102269
I've noticed that too.

This is the kind of shit I get stuck on. How do I know where to go from here? I know I need to get the slimes alone, but I don't even know where to start.

>>716103305
you have a lot of empty spaces to knock out, at the very least. then i'd just go down the list of rules and see which seems easiest to try applying.
that one looked easy at first, but the more i look at it the more annoying it is.

>>716103792
I found going for diagonals USUALLY works out. But that isn't LOGIC is it? There should be a next step that doesn't involve pattern recognition or aesthetics.

>>716103305
5th column you've already cleared all 3 walls of it, so you can mark the rest going down as empty
you should be able to start walling off the slimes from there. also remember that the number on the bomb needs to correlate to the amount it kills; your 2 on the upper-right is killing 5 demons
I usually find that I'm just looking for tiny openings in the rules, rather than thinking big picture. tiny wins on the level start adding up

>matthew is officially on-topic /v/ discussion forever now

>>716103305
>I know I need to get the slimes alone
That slime in the bottom row is almost touching another. Go fix that.

>>716104476
>your 2 on the upper-right is killing 5 demon
the issue you run into a lot is that you can't batten down a wall to just one space, which is the case there. it's useful info, but you have to find a way to use it to get somewhere.

>>716055470 (OP)
Honestly, I think it is pretty cool. I like the ruleset, even if I felt like the worded instructions were needlessly vague. I hope the game is successful for Matt. It will be a fun game to open up every once in a while and just knock a few puzzles out.

Level 6 felt like a weird difficulty spike before going back down to the previous gradual incline in difficulty.

>>716104596
his dream come true

>>716104596
we fucking did it bros... "it's up" forever...

>his first video was uploaded 13 years ago
Where does the time go?

>/v/ is enjoying s game made by an essayist youtuber
Is this the first. Did a creator put his money where his mouth is.

>>716105098
Matthew was always a level above the average youtube essayist, and he honestly still is. I didn't agree with everything he said, but he always backed his arguments up with reasonable points.

If anyone was gonna make a half-decent game, it was him.

>>716105098
The other thread with his avatar as OP pic lured most of the haters away from this thread, thankfully.

alright what am i missing here? pretty sure i'm good on the numbers, every enclosed area has a blue and some monsters, every monster is getting blown up?

>>716105921
nvm, just saw it, 1 bomb in bottom left

>>716105921
>filename
oh yeah that song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QPhnNSvff8

>>716105098
Yahtzee's games have gotten some decent reaction on here. I remember having a discussion or two about Poacher.

>stuck on puzzle seven
I know I'm retarded
but bombs blow through everything that isn't a wall, right? they don't stop at a cat once they hit the max number of cats a bomb can kill, do they?
So how can this be solvable?
Ideally give me a hint that doesn't make me feel any less logical

>>716106473
if there's a cat that only sees one bomb, that bomb must blow up that cat.

>>716106473
>but bombs blow through everything that isn't a wall, right?
Correct.
>they don't stop at a cat once they hit the max number of cats a bomb can kill, do they?
They do not.
>So how can this be solvable?
Walls.

>>716106624
that's a good hint
but I guess that means bombs *do* stop after hitting their max number of cats

>>716106473
yeah bombs go through anything but a wall. also need to protect the blue gem thing from bombs, that should decrease your options a little

>>716106751
And also protect bombs from each other

>>716106659
Okay then how do you solve what's in the red circle without hitting the diamond?
Based on this >>716106624 I added purple X's for my guess as to which cats must be hit with which bombs...

>>716106709
>*do* stop after hitting their max number of cats
no, you need to block them with a wall

>>716106859
with that, there's only two cats and two bombs left.
the rest is dealing with walls.

>>716106859
add a wall under the upper 2 bomb to block the downward explosion?

>>716106859
Let's analyze the eigth row step by step.
We know that row 8 column 7 is blank, because it has a 0.
That means that if the bomb kills the enemy on column 6 there is no way to block the explosion from getting to column 8 where the crystal is. Hence the bomb must not be the one that kills that enemy and therefore there must be a wall in row 8 between columns 3 and 5.
Does that make sense?

where do you even fucking start with this

>>716107253
this is the 'them's the rules, now go fuck yourself' one

>>716107253
Look at the cats that can only be killed by one bomb, draw their paths with Xs, keep slowly whittling away like that.

>>716106978
>>716107039
>>716107078
If my guess is right, the outer 2 kill bombs HAVE to kill the upper left cats, because if they are not blocked they will hit the diamond

But that makes the inner 1 bombs a fail, because they can't hit each other

>>716107410
>But that makes the inner 1 bombs a fail, because they can't hit each other
The explosion can go through each other, you just can't have an explosion hit a bomb.

>>716107410
it's ok for explosions to criss-cross as long as they don't hit the bomb

>>716107481
Ah. That's my issue then. Thanks

>>716107410
ah, that's the issue.
look at a previous puzzle.
bombs do cross each other in one of them, i think.

>>716105098
It's a simple game that's challenging. The people who wouldn't like it got filtered early, and everyone else is too autistic to care about eceleb shit. It got an initial boost due to being an eceleb game, but it's actually good.

>>716107551
I just checked, they don't.
I won't complain though, I could have figured it out by trial and error

LOOK GUIZE! I MADE A VIDEO GAME!

It'll be 5 bucks, please.

>>716107709
i guess the other thread 404'd if these fags are showing up here now

I'm confused.

Wait so
is this game really about logic

>>716108837
yeah, in the same way sudoku or minesweeper are about logic tho. not like logic gates

>>716108837
Is it truly about bombs?

>>716109234
I'm this poster >>716107410
And, because it's not established in earlier puzzles that bomb explosions can actually cross each other, you have to make a logical leap to assume that they can, to be able to solve the puzzle.
With no indication that explosions either can or cannot cross each other, it's just guesswork

>>716109578
on the contrary, you assumed something that you thought was implicitly stated, and were punished for it.
inductive reasoning is bad.

>>716109578
When you solve a puzzle the bombs explode one by one, not all at the same time.
Secondly the text says "bombs must not hit [crystals] or other bombs", doesn't say anything about their explosions crossing.
I think the zones rule is the only one that isn't immediately obvious.

>>716109578
you could just as easily say that you invented that rule and had to un-learn it

Level 13 feels like a huge spike. There is no obvious first move, so you have to guess at it and then see if you guess is correct.

>>716109967
how quickly they forget

>>716110104
Yeah, I ended up figuring it out. I was looking for a cat that wasn't in a row and column with two bombs, but forgot to ask myself if that bomb could possibly reach the cat without going over the bomb limit.

>>716055470 (OP)
Same here. Got a question for anons though; what does he mean by "zone" with rule six? Each puzzle? Each quadrant of bombs?

>>716110216
each sparkle needs to be walled off in its own area with at least one bomb and monster but without any other sparkles (bombs count as walls for this as well i think), except in levels with only one sparkle obviously

>>716110304
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

>>716109745
No, I think I can argue that the definition of "bombs" isn't clear here.
Is a bomb always defined as merely the object in a pre-exploded state? Is a bomb any less a bomb while it's exploding?
I believed the explosion was considered part of the bomb, that explosions shouldn't cross, and I believe there's no real logical reason not to - IRL an exploding bomb would be the same chemical components as an unexploded bomb, just in a reactive as opposed to an inert state.

There is no rule IRL that dictates this is the *wrong* way to think, and arriving at Matthew's solution for the puzzle seems to be predicated on correctly assuming or guessing how he's defining things.

what the fuck

>>716110216
To be more specific, a zone is defined as any number of Xs surrounded by walls or by walls and the edges of the level.
That means a 3x3 of walls with a hole inside counts as a zone, a 2x2 of walls on the corner of the level with the corner space being a hole also counts as a zone.
HOWEVER, it is not a valid zone and therefore will not allow you to complete the level. In order for a zone to be valid it MUST have only one crystal and at least one monster (and by extension, a bomb to kill said monster).

uhh what am i looking at here, bros?

This isn't a complaint btw >>716110721
It's just that, logically, it would make this really a game about intuition, not logic

>>716110757
>>716111064
hive mind

>>716111101
it feels like you're coping for misunderstanding a mechanic

>>716110934
Thank you, Matt.

>>716110757
>>716111064
The sigma symbol represents addition of all elements.
i.e.
9+?+2+2+4+8+4+2+?+8=39
if I am understanding it correctly.

>>716111364
Proofs using rows:

>>716110757
o>>716111064
h he's fucking taking the piss. I'm glad the game gets somewhat deeper but does cheating fix it?

>>716110721
I think the point still stands that it’s impossible to infer that explosions interact with each other after solving the first puzzle and seeing them go off explicitly one at a time. Any complaints about grammar or other supposed misunderstandings should be false on their face as a result of this.

>>716111364
>>716111463
God damn I don't know if I'm autistic enough for this.

>>716111587
Reminder there are 160 levels that were designed and playtested over 8 months. Enjoy!

>>716111587
>he doesn't know basic gymnasium maths

>>716111364
oh so it's essentially a "hint" at what the question marks are supposed to be? that's not too bad

>>716111796
Keeping in mind what all those ? could potentially be while also solving a completely separate puzzle that ties into the ?s is just some lateral thinking I'm not 100% sure I'm capable of. I'm gonna try though dammit.

what happened to his sidescroller game? wtf is this shit

>>716111193
You can only misunderstand a mechanic if it's fully explained.
If you get something wrong, having had it fully explained to you, then you misunderstood.
In this case I incorrectly guessed on an issue that wasn't fully explained.

>>716109967
I took my time on that one... probably an hour. Thought I was going to win it, and saw I have 6+ wrong once I finished, lmao

>>716112259
As another anon said, in the very first puzzle, before you even directly consider the bombs themselves, they go off one at a time, and the explosion disappears after a moment. There's no induction required to deduce that bomb explosions do not interact with each other.

>>716082409
>The 1s on both rows imply a diagonal
>6. Every space enclosed by walls must contain one blue guy, one bomb, and at least one enemy
EZPZ tutorial-tier level

>>716107253
This took me 4 fucking tries from scratch, I understood the starting logic but if you make one mistake in the middle its damn near impossible to unfuck yourself without starting over.

I really do wish there was one more symbol you could use.

>>716112623
same here
I used paint.net to draw the bomb patterns over a screenshot

>>716112150
I want to say you can work out the ?s by using the sums of the row to make two algebraic formulas in the form x + y = whatever, but my gut may be wrong because I'm flubbing actually making it work.

>>716111536
All it says is "Bombs must not hit other bombs"
There is nothing in the previous puzzles to indicate explosions crossing paths, even though they explode in sequence, would not count as "bombs hitting each other" by the game's logic.
Every previous puzzle actually goes out of its way to ensure that the paths of explosions do not cross, so you can't know how "hitting other bombs" is fully defined until this puzzle

I'm not complaining, I think *this* is what the game really is, and I like it
But it's not a logic puzzle to guess what the rules are: a puzzle establishes everything the player needs to solve it from the start, and asks the player to solve
This is a game about figuring out, with your intuition, what the rules are, and *then* solving

Looking at more complex puzzles in the thread I believe I'm right about this.

>>716112443
No, say you drop a bomb in real life and it creates a linear explosion.
You're told you must drop another bomb and it must "not hit the other bomb"
How would you interpret this?
I say there are multiple ways to interpret this, and without clarification, there is no correct answer.

To add to this >>716113082
The puzzle itself is the clarification of the unstated full rule.

>>716112623
even on the gb he could've mapped select to a circle marker, the only use select currently has ingame is showing the credits on the level select

>>716113260
never mind i forgot select was hint

>>716107253
I finally beat this one Jesus Christ. I'm done for the night lol. Fun game though to be sure.

this is probably going to be my GOTY personally. one of the best puzzle games ever made with an excellent difficulty curve

>>716055470 (OP)
I wish it was available on other platforms.
I'm trying to not sit in front of my gaming/work PC during my summer vacation.

>>716112902
>>716113082
>>716113207
You're wrong about that

so maybe I'm just very tired and missing something obvious, but what is the specific strategy for figuring out what goes where? (other than just trial and error).

>>716114369
Logic requires no guesswork
But I wonder if the puzzles do

>>716075116
Look at the bomb in the top left corner and think about which cats it can actually hit.

>>716114354
It includes a Game Boy ROM. Run it on any hacked or chink handheld. You have a PSP or a 3DS at least, right?

>>716114369
For that puzzle, you have one diamond so you can only have one contiguous zone.

>>716081448
how is proof by contradiction not logic

>>716082409
This was one of the ones I solved really fast.

>>716114369
Solved it.

>>716114582
AHHHHhhhh, I see. right.

This game is Frog Fractions 3

>>716082409
I just looked at the rows and columns and guessed on this one, keeping in mind you need to make 3 partitions. I have no idea how you actually justify the wall placement, unlike the other puzzles that can be attacked step by step, this one was sorta all-or-nothing.

this game is good

I like how quickly it launches and exits. I wish there was an undo button but that's probably against the spirit of every move being justified.

>>716114359
I just got to this one. I figure that it needs to start like this but I'm not entirely sure how to continue from here without guessing.
There a trick I'm missing? I'm going to assume that it'll end up being symmetrical. Catboxing my sketch because the site isn't letting me upload the image.

https://litter.catbox.moe/l588wt96iwicpe4m.jpg

test

>>716114782
Since the center point of the three diamonds is 1/1, you have to have a wall there, it's the only way to separate the three of them. If you put the wall anywhere else in that column/row, you create a 1 + 2 partition which you can't further separate because you have no more walls.

test

>>716059985
>The Flat Circle The Game
Id play it

post the rom gaylords

>>716115353
The man did good work. Toss him 5 bucks.

>>716115049
Both Cat rows have exactly 6 spaces left to fill so you can continue from there.

>>716109541
It's no bombergirl

what went wrong

>>716115587
The stars are touching, you need to keep them separated.

>>716056241
Cool can someone upload it now?

>>716115587
Bomb in the middle hits 4 niggas

here's what i could do in 12 hours. definitely got my money's worth but i can feel i'm starting to hit my ceiling

>>716115956
You'll get better at it by sleeping on it

i give up fuck you irish cunt

>quit job to be full time youtuber
>make far less content than before
>spend time making some random game instead
why

got through the first 16 puzzles
this is killing my brain
the 16th puzzle is surprisingly easy once you figure out what it wants you to do

>>716115353
This game is so shit and insignificant that nobody is gonna even bother.

>>716115353
>>716117815
>>716115750
https://files.catbox.moe/nro5ex.zip

>>716118058
Holy fucking BASED

Logic Bump

This game is fun, but it needs an undo button for playing out suppositions.

Bought it.
Left a negative review.
Uploaded the rom file online.
Refunded it.

Now what?

>>716121240
I didn't check if the rest of your stuff was correct or not.

>>716072067

Schizos need to understand 2 things
Making games is incredibly hard, he's made.. 1.5? Every following game will improve.
He is getting paid 1400$/month to dev. Earning 'only' 10k usd means nothing in this context
he won.

Well, /v/?

>>716056241
197 too many

>>716082409
>>716085729
On the 6th row, there is only 1 location for the wall that would separate all three groups. From there it's easy enough to figure out what you need to do one wall at a time.

>>716058042
>concurrent players equals to absolute amount of total buyers

>>716056368
>that took probably less than a year
Does he know?

>>716060257
>Doesn't answer the question
Kek, malding for a game

>>716066060
Zoom zoom

>>716068696
If you need hints to beat this shit you outted yourself

>>716082409
this one can be deduced if you're not a midwit. realise that areas with a 1 for EITHER the row or the column can only have a single diagonal line in it. now split the blue guys up.

>>716126773

>>716120008
generational hating.

>>716070336
This game is so much better than Heartbound it's insane

This game is really inconsistent with its quality of life features.

Oh boy

>>716130579
what the actual fuck does any of this mean

>>716073382
he only came up with the most logical solution to the game's problem

>>716132947
The puzzle in the screenshot or the actual post?

>>716133298
the puzzle

>>716123007
no it's not? There's a billion tutorials online on how to code a game

>>716133393
Numbers in the first row/column should add to the sum on the right/bottom. The idea is that this should give you a hint what the numbers behind the ?s could be. For some reason he didn't mark the ? columns with a + sign, so this fails as a tutorial.

>>716055470 (OP)
Based Matt. Meanwhile Joseph "game" is still lost in the ether, like the rest of his Witcher 3 analysis.

>>716133938
>For some reason he didn't mark the ? columns with a + sign, so this fails as a tutorial.
It's literally the other way around. The question marks are not included in the total, so there is no + sign.

>>716134624
Then the sum is redundant information.

>>716123134
Not even Matt can avoid the steam points farmers, huh?

>not popular enough to be on cs rin
Piratebros..

>>716134519
Is that guy even making a game? I thought he was a novel writer.
Also are the games by the GMTK guy any good? I don't watch him because his analyses are incredibly surface level.

>>716134887
Only in the sense that you could manually add the numbers to reach the same information, yes. But the information itself is useful to solve the puzzle.

>>716135082
>Is that guy even making a game?
Until a couple of years ago, he was making a zelda-clone alongside two other people (a coder, and an artist). It was playable to some extent, because he mentioned once that one of his son played it for a bit. But I don't know what happened to the project. After the guy divorced and started dating one of his viewer I stopped watching him.

>>716055470 (OP)
I thought he was making a 2d action game? What happened to that?

>>716135308
Ah well, the very next puzzle teaches you the idea properly.

Do the question marks in a puzzle all have the same hidden number or can they be different numbers? I assume it's the latter, but some puzzles seem unreasonably hard then

>>716139141
They can be different

am i stupid? how is this wrong??

>>716141894
Top right corner breaks rule 6.

>>716141894
You made a zone that doesn't contain a diamond.

>>716120008
Where?

>>716141978
>>716142475
man, I feel like the shit with the zones should have been better explained. I get that matt wants some eureka-moments where you figure out some emergent or not-explicit rules, but there is a not insignificant amount of initial guess work to do when it comes to the basic rules of his logical deduction-based game

This game really has me doing systems of equations.

>>716118058
>bought it
>refunded it
>kept the rom
>felt bad about it, this is worse than just pirating
>someone posts the rom anyways
now i don't know if i should play it. Fucking hell i should have just waited for someone to post it before buying.

>>716143907
>>716118058
kek nvm well done

>>716055470 (OP)
>no achievements
I'll give this a miss.

Anyone know why this is wrong?

>>716144673
Diamonds aren't segregated.

>>716144704
damn you're right, thanks anon

Help...

>>716142862
Probably yeah. The two things that I don't like about the game is that the zone closure rules are hard to grasp and that the hardest part even in early puzzles is figuring out where the first move is supposed to be.

>>716145350
nvm found it

>>716145350
i remember this one taking me forever