How come the skill level in Europe in online games is much higher than in North America? I'm not talking about the best players in esports, but average ranks in competitive games

Lower average IQ. Not only are they picking things up slower but IQ is also linked to reaction time.
They are stupider and slower.

>>716123109 (OP)
You niggers get paid by the state to sit at home and game all day. If americoons had the same advantage of being parasites you would see more.

>>716123304
To extrapolate on this, being able to never work and be a parasite nigger is why american niggers and trannys that get paid by the state to exist are so prevelent in competitve fighting games.

>>716123109 (OP)
>LoL
fake esport game, go play Fighters/RTS/pvp Arena shooters instead

>>716123109 (OP)
>Why are Europeans better at games than americans?

It's hard to explain this one without being racist, but Europe is more homogeneous than America, and that's why their players are better.
America is just a nationality, and it's not an ethnicity. If you actually look at who's living in America, you would know the answer.

>>716123109 (OP)
nobody cares about your e-slop celebs nigger, fuck off to your containment board.

>>716123304
You don't have to deal with cheaters in video games, Europeans have to tolerate the pain of having to play with cheaters from across the globe. If you play against cheaters (unfair difficulty) you are playing basically a different game to the norm, you are playing a x3 harder game than what the Americans are playing.

>>716123535
>you dont have to deal with cheaters
Shut the fuck up you stupid fuck, were forced into servers with all of south fucking american and every cheating subhuman spic that exists there. All you faggots have to deal with is slavs. Dont sit here and act like SEA is part of euroslav servers.

>>716123109 (OP)
I like how europoor countries are now so shit that europoors always try to compete against US and China as a continent rather than as a country. Don't you realize you've already admitted defeat once you compete as a collection of 29 states vs 1? Remember when individual europoor states used to rule the world? Never happening again LMAO

>>716123789
>Amerimutt laughing at others

When's the last time your country won at esports?

>>716123440
Aren't most fighting game pros black? Or at least overrepresented given they are ~10% of the US population
(I don't actually know, genuine question)

>>716123109 (OP)
Americans are just fat retard politcal cultists who shriek at each other while their leaders fuck kids.

>>716123973
>Aren't most fighting game pros black?

What? I have no idea. The last time I watched fighting games was Street Fighter 4. I linked a video in the Youtube thread, and it was two Asians playing. Blacks may play but they're not the legends.

>>716123789
America is literally a third world country compared to Europe

>>716123973
>Aren't most fighting game pros black?
Do 4tranners just get all their information from 4tran?

>>716123367
faker is greater than flash, daigo, cooller and rapha combined

>>716124112
First world literally means US and nations subservient to the US. It's a term that was coined to refer to the 2 main factions in the cold war (US vs USSR/China)

>>716124252
>faker

Is that a LoLnigger? Has he ever tried Dota?

>ASSFAGGOTS
Lemme know when they win Capcom Cup or EVO during this decade

>>716123109 (OP)
I actually did a study on this about six or so years ago when I realized it was much more common to see Australians in online video games than Texans despite Texas having around 6 million more people living in it.

At its core, the higher your population, the more likely you are to be able to draft a better team in sports or video games or anything competitive. It's just basic statistics--having more people gives you a higher chance of finding players with natural talent and top tier players in a given population will be more talented than vs a smaller group. Europe as a whole has a higher population overall than the US and that alone means there's a higher chance of finding skilled players there. (Note that this is true for China as well).

But narrowing it down further, it's not just total population which can skew the favor but also the part of that population that plays games. Taking various studies over the years, Europe's gaming population is anywhere from twice to three times as great as the US depending on the game in question. Europe has a far larger pool to draw from than the US when recruiting talent, and worldwide leaderboards usually reflect that with a few outliers in particular games.

Going back to my first reason for looking into the question of why I see so few Texan players comparatively to similar sized locales, it seems that there's quite a few people within the population of the state that simply do not play games, or at least do not play certain more involved games compared to the rest of the world. Going back to Australia, a lot of the population in AUS is white or asian and lives in urban population centers, which represents the primary demographic of people who play games. In Texas, over half the population is non-white and whites predominantly live in rural areas which have much lower rates of gamers compared to their urbanite peers. Basically, the actual population of gamers in the US to EU is very low for these reasons.

>>716123109 (OP)
both trash compared to gooks

>>716124256
The meaning changed over the years

>>716124439
LMAO
M
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Where is your Korean Dota 2 team? It doesn't exist because you couldn't beat anyone.

>>716123109 (OP)
Because Americans always complain first before adapting
Oh a section takes 3 seconds too long? Walking simulator!
A boss doesn't have obvious tells or has attacks that might hit you from your blind side? Badly designed game!
A boss has high HP but with a mechanic that softens it up but they stubbornly just won't use? Damage-sponge!
The player enemy is better than them simply because they played more? Unbalanced game!
They complain and quit with the smallest obstacle, even if said obstacle affects everybody making it a level playing field, instead of adapting or adjusting

>>716124435
Very interesting, thanks for posting your finds

>>716124314
Why would he? Grubby, one of the greatest WC3 players in history reached the top tier rank (top 0.01%) in Dota without breaking a sweat and he's only peaked at Platinum (top 50%) in League after 500 hours lollllllll

>>716124613
>Why would he?

It's because if you Korean bitches tried Dota, you would lose. It doesn't have to faker specifically, but your trash country doesn't even show up for the game. Why is that?

>>716123109 (OP)
Americans are taught to value individuality from an early age, it's every man for himself. They're not team players. Asians are taught their team is more important than themselves. Europe is somewhere in the middle. The American raid scene is 95% dogshit squabbling.

>>716124673
Because koreans don't play irrelevant games for babies, especially when an infinitely more skill-demanding alternative already exists.

>>716124806
>irrelevant games for babies

Right, and that's why they play League of Legends. Fucking Koreans. I'm not even sharing a thread with one. Fucking worthless kimichi motherfucker.

>>716123109 (OP)
Don't look into where most "American" scientists were born and educated.

>>716124314
>>716124673
>>716124830
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/TOfu
>ex half korean lol pro who barely accomplished anything in lol moves to dota2
>immediately gets 2nd place in TI twice and gets free million in earnings
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>716123109 (OP)
not in league nowadays lol

>>716123789
But this post is not about USA, it's about NA

>>716124545
I can sum it up a little better as follows:

>Population count of a region determines how prevalent that region is in representation (obviously).
>Two major factors influence who's playing a game: Cultural and IQ, for lack of a better metric.

>US IQ is all over the place compared to Europe. The population as a whole is less educated, although certain demographics are equal to or exceed Europe.
>IQ in this case primarily determines how long someone is willing to practice a game, or in other words, their level of patience. Lower IQ has less patience and will drop games that do not immediately draw them in.
>Thus, games like RTS, MOBA, strategy games, and even economic sims like EVE Online have comparatively fewer Americans playing them.

>Cultural factors play in to this as well. Video games suffer a stigma in the US that is less apparent in Europe and Asia.
>A lot of this has to do with the US culture viewing video games as a waste of time or something for losers. This pushes away more talented individuals from video games and towards other activities.
>This has manifested itself in various ways, from the early idea that video games were something for turbo-nerds, to the satanic panic, to the idea that gamers are racist, no-sex virgins.
>Because of the above, many individuals that would climb the ladder and represent the US in e-sports drop out from social shame before they reach that point.

So it's a double whammy of the US just having a lower player pool than Europe and what players who potentially could make it in the pro scene being pressured to give it up sort of in the same way Americans would explain to their child that their dreams of becoming a rock or movie star are unlikely to become true.

Europe has a more PC focused gaming culture while NA favours consoles.

>>716124613
meanwhile the LoL goat of Soloq who achieved GM in 5 roles, play on Modern in SF6

>>716124972
OH NONONONONONONO LEAGUESISTERS??? Our response?

>>716123109 (OP)
You’d realize that competitive gaming actually requires proper nutrition and regular exercise something Europeans still manage to do on a daily basis
That’s why you get either a random player from a third world country or someone from germany or scandinavia country winning world championships

>>716125238
>the lol goat of soloq
hes just one of the most popular kek, what showmaker and drututt did is way more impressive
but what do I expect from ameriggers

American gamers with noteworthy level of skill tend to become streamers or content creators, rather than going pro.

>>716125238
>LoL goat of Soloq
you mean dopa? did you pick wrong mp4 on accident? that's not dopa

>>716123789
>29 states vs 1
do you not know what the states part in "United States of America" stands for?

>>716125038
>umm actually it's 3 countries versus 29 so that's fair
>>716125753
>umm actually US is almost like 95478 countries if you count every neighborhood individually

Let the coping begin LMAO

>>716124909
Uhhh americabros...?

>>716125846
>coping
>posting ummm ackshually
lmao

>>716124613
>lifetime WC3 player achieved top rank status in a WC3 mod
Would be embarrassing if he hadn't

The bigger reason is because esports pays very little. The amount of money you can get being a middle-of-the-road esports guy in Europe sweating your balls off 7 days a week is the same amount you can get paid being an assistant manager at Denny's in the US.

Pretty much every competitive gamer guy I knew growing up ended up dropping the lifestyle when he got into his late 20s because he wanted to do more than live in a pod with seven other dudes and practice his macro for the equivalent of minimum wage.

>>716126089
>The bigger reason is because esports pays very little
lel

>>716125846
North america is 23 countries

>>716125846
its not 95478 its 50 + washington
i don't think its even that controversial to point out that states in USA are more comparable to inidividual countries

>>716126194
if you're in the top 50, sure the money is great. if you're not and don't have a big stream, you make dogshit. most people dont want to waste a decade to MAYBE make it when you can just get a real job and make guaranteed money.

Because americans are posers.

>>716123109 (OP)
europoors actually like vidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTsaS1Tm-Ic&list=RDqTsaS1Tm-Ic&start_radio=1

>>716126265
CS pros on T3 teams make bank my dude.

>>716126308
>DotA
>vidya

>>716123109 (OP)
Better question is, why are Japs so bad at games when everyone always claim they are super good?

>>716126318
They make like $150k/year which is not even a high salary in the US. If you put in the time and motivation those CS pros did into a real job in the US, you'd be making twice that while working fewer hours.

>>716126318
ok, what do they make

>>716124435
Yeah, PC gaming in particular is much more popular in Europe than the US. That's all it is really, they have more numbers.

>>716126089
I dont know about other games, but in CS it's pretty much set in stone during your teenage years whether or not you will make it as a pro. Teams usually pick up 16 year old fresh aim demons or already established players. If you are not a pro in your 20's you are not going to be pro.

>>716126375
they're good at arcade games and speedrunning, not so much in multiplayer games

tick tock, euros

better hope you make it big before they take away your bennies

>>716123973
Maybe, but maybe not their top players?

>>716123304
Ahhaahhaa the wagie tears are delicious

>>716123973
Some of the current top SF players are black but the majority of great fighting game players are asian, SF's included

>>716123973
>black
>Street Fighter Pro
Uhhhhh no? The only black SF player I know is LTG and he's a lowcow loser.

>>716126379
150k a year is absolutely a high salary. Dont be disingenuous anon.

>>716123440
Funny thing is most of those “whites” in this chart aren’t really white either.

>>716126379
>They make like $150k/year which is not even a high salary in the US

>>716126568
Anon this is 4chan, everyone here make 6 figures while working at home doing 2h of work each week.

>>716125340
>>716125445
>BUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER HEKKIN ECELEBS
Dude, listen, there's no skill in your skinnerbox forced 50% ladder.
You liderally just:
1- follow the dictated Riot/Valve metagame like a good goy
2 - spam a games like a drug addicted
boom, easy low Master rank, now stfu.
assfaggots players man

>>716126379
How does that salary compare to to the tier 3 in more traditional sports? Like a track and field athlete who pushes their body to the extreme but only finishes like 3rd in regional 200 meter runs?

>>716126634
>Dude, listen, there's no skill in your skinnerbox
you dont play the game.

>>716126554
There are 100 million american who claim go be white but are actually mixed

>>716126568
For the amount of work they put in, $150k/year is nothing.

I skip work half the time to goon and I'm still pulling $100k

>>716126679
Sure you are redditor

>>716126667
You didnt prove otherwise my statement below
>>Dude, listen, there's no skill in your skinnerbox
There are several documents and essays explaining the trickery behind Riot's matchmaking in primis.
That would never happen in a 1vs1 game

>>716123109 (OP)
wOw muricans and eurofags have such strong feelings for eachother looking good bois

>>716126789
There is nothing to prove you just parrot word for word what people say in every single assfaggots thread
you dont play the game.

>>716123109 (OP)
There are a lot less third worlders killing the vibe for EU

>>716126858
You don't know what's it like playing with russians and turks

>>716126858
we call those russians

This has always been the case. There's a reason the Japanese called the highest difficulty level "European Extreme" and not "American Extreme".

>>716123535
Bingo
Amerishits will never understand this

>>716126925
name 1(one) game

>>716126823
Op.gg ? :√)
>inb4
YOU FIRST!!!!

>>716126674
Yeah, I'm 75% white and 25% hispanic. I'm not a white supremacist and I don't lose sleep because my eyes are brown. Who. Gives. A. Shit.

>>716125176
That is not really true
The average gamer in Europe plays fifa and cod on a console just like how the average gamer in America plays madden and cod

>>716126375
No pc gaming culture at all. They dont even use internet cafes to play multiplayer games

>FPS
EVRO wins
>Dota
EVRO wins
>Racing
EVRO wins
>strategy
EVRO wins
>stop killing games
EVRO wins

We EVROPEANS are the Best gamers on the planet.

>>716124909
>>716125890
You can graph American global dominance with the WW1 and WW2 immigrants from Europe and it's almost 1:1
>1910s-1930s: Europeans (especially scientists etc) arrive
>1940s-1960s: America creates the nuclear bomb (literally just completed what the Germans were doing), lands on the moon, creates things like the SR-71 Blackbird, golden age of advancement
>1970s-1980s: said Europeans start ageing out of the workforce or dying out, decline starts slow but accelerates, by the 1980s it's in full swing
>1990s and onwards: total downward spiral
If you ever go to boards like /g/ you'll sometimes see posts like
>Hello this is Ragnar Thor Marvel Avengers, I am a European IT worker I am suffering very much with 8 weeks of paid vacations per year and low crime rates I wish I could move to America because I love stroads, SSRIs, and papier-mache houses so much
Which is just modern glowmutts trying to keep Operation Paperclip going because they know they don't have the genetic capital in the US (though I think it's actually going the opposite way lmao).

>>716126949
Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3, but only if you had the European release, no point putting it in the American one.

>>716127007
100 million of you do

>>716123304
Unless you have a disability neetbux in Western Europe for a single male is often not even enough to cover the rent + electricity + water bills.

>>716123109 (OP)
Americans are seemingly always in a state of conflict in their region. A lot of egos that end up dragging each other down. I used to watch dota sone pros and they would almost always have griefers or snipers in their US games so they'd have to escape to EU servers just for the chance at a game that didn't immediately go to shit. I've also heard that just getting your foot in the door in the US is much harder for some reason so a lot of people wind up stagnating at the level of pubstomper and don't progress upwards.

The current top 10 in Starcraft 2 doesn't have a single NA player.

>>716127412
>>Hello this is Ragnar Thor Marvel Avengers, I am a European IT worker I am suffering very much with 8 weeks of paid vacations per year and low crime rates I wish I could move to America because I love stroads, SSRIs, and papier-mache houses so much
>Which is just modern glowmutts trying to keep Operation Paperclip going because they know they don't have the genetic capital in the US (though I think it's actually going the opposite way lmao).
They post like that because IT pays like shit in Europe. I have a literal intern working under me who makes more than most principal engineers in the EU.

>>716128003
that game is really dead, desu all old school esports games are dropping in popularity in recent years. Cant think of any new esports game besides Valorant but that game is just offbrand csgo which for some reason got popular in NA

>>716128089
Do you suffer from profound mental retardation? Then compare costs of living and such. This is why games and IT projects in muttland have insanely retarded budgets and why you will get replaced by H1B1 pajeets.

>>716123304
this.
Euros are cattle people. Americans actually have to go out and do something with their lives. Of course europeans would have more time to be good at something worthless like playing videogames, it’s why they’re inferior at everything that matters

>>716128186
I work in fucking Arkansas my dude. A literal shithole. The CoL is lower than pretty much anywhere in Europe.

>>716128150
It got popular in NA because Riot paid a lot of money to ecelebs there and its retirement home of NA CS scene who could be tier 3 in CS2 at most lol.

>>716128253
That doesnt change what I said. You will get replaced by pajeets exactly because youre getting overpaid.

>>716128214
You call us cattle but the american government is literally assraping you on a daily basis. You don't even live in freedom, you're a slave

>>716128307
I've been told that I'm going to get replaced with a pajeet for ten years now and it still hasn't happened.

>>716128214
>worshipping corpos and garglin on jewish balls wageslaving means we are not cattle dude
Do mutt golems really?

>>716128150
>that game is really dead
Eh, the ladder population has been fairly stable for the past decade. What really hurts SC2 is the fact that there's virtually 0 support from Blizzard. The community has to come up with their own balance patches and mappools, they take forever to get published by Blizzard and often have bugs and there's no funding for tournaments.

>>716128089
>They post like that because IT pays like shit in Europe
I work in IT in Europe. I have 8 weeks paid vacation, which doesn't include paid sick leave, and that doesn't even begin to describe the quality of life here compared to the US.

My company has a US branch, I've gotten offers to transfer for a 2-3X increase in pay so I know exactly how much more Americans are paid, but I see what my American colleagues are like and I want absolutely none of that. Americans who say they work 40 hours a week actually work 60 if not more, you people have zero work-life balance and you're all on the edge of a nervous breakdown. You just don't realize it because it's all you've ever known.

Americans dream of one day being millionaires so they can afford the quality of life of the western European earning 40k/year. I'll enjoy my paid vacation (actual vacation, work phone is off) and 90 minute lunch breaks, thanks.

>>716128307
>jeet
>in Arkansas
do you even know where Arkansas is?

>>716128492
>I work in IT in Europe. I have 8 weeks paid vacation, which doesn't include paid sick leave
My accrual rate for PTO is about that. I get about 7 weeks of time off per year.

>>716128253
>>716128520
I don't know why you think living in a shithole makes this sound any better. I don't want to live in a stroad hellhole where going to grab some groceries is a 30 minute car ride and everyone is on SSRIs because everywhere looks like this.

It's not about CoL it's about quality of life.

>>716128492
>Americans dream of one day being millionaires so they can afford the quality of life of the western European earning 40k/year.
Well said. The difference of quality of life between Europe and america is so big, you have to be part of the top 10% in american to have the same life as a middle class European

>>716128214
>>716123304
One of the best AoE2 (later pivoted to AoE4) players is a greek farmer that is too busy tending his fields 6+ months a year to even play vidyas. He bought a new tractor with the prize money from one of the tourneys.

>>716124972
He started playing Dota way before going pro. He also """won""" a dead TI with no competitiveness and no prize pool

Sadly Dota is not what it was anymore but up until 2021 it was by far more competitive than League ever was and every single game design element proves it, the only thing that requires higher skill in league is landing skillshots
Everything else has a much higher skill ceiling in Dota.

>>716128743
>>Sadly Dota is not what it was anymore but up until 2021 it was by far more competitive than League ever was and every single game design element proves it, the only thing that requires higher skill in league is landing skillshots
Nothing after 2021 has been good. The entire esports scene is built on rapidly evaporating VC money that's now looking to get out due to interest rate hikes

>>716128726
>He bought a new tractor with the prize money from one of the tourneys.
Now that's SOVL

>>716128952
smoking is for fags.

>>716128726
AoE are type of games he can play while doing shit on tractor lol dude probably grinds on laptop while doing shit with his tractor

>>716128952
European here, I don't get it. What about this is incomprehensible for mutts?

>>716128658
>middle class European
they killed it after covid and its progressively gets worse with every passing year tho

>>716129591
People spending time together.

>>716129591
Middle of the day, people smoking, drinking and socialising on a street bar.

>>716125238
lmao t1 is a fraud, he was a challenger level player many years ago but thats it

>>716123367
Euros are also better at those.

>>716129591
Nobody in the image is morbidly obese.

>>716123109 (OP)
NA has been better than EU in LoL for like the past 3 years you could've just chose CS for the pic or something

>>716127125
>Dota
There's like 7 europeans left in the pro scene. It's all russians and other thirdies even in the "west europe" qualifiers.

>>716129591
American here, I drew a diagram of what the same would look like in america. The fencing is typically waist-high.

>>716129591
0 diversity

>>716129591
People enjoying their day in public

>>716128796
It's okay, the saudis and other camelfuckers will save it to diversify their oil money and improve their pr.

>>716129591
>mutts can't drink in public
Such a strange country.

>>716130440
This may shock you, but Russia is in Europe.

>>716130726
Why would they do that when they can just literally invest in government bonds and get guaranteed return?

>>716130440
>Russia is a third world country
>Russia is not European
I know you're American so you've never seen a map of the world, but even then where do you think the term "third world" comes from and what do you think "second world" countries are?

>>716129591
I don't know what "La Tienda de Casanis" means.
Also many internet-addicted Europeans spend their entire lives seething at conceptual Americans while knowing nothing of America. Even my podunk town has outdoor seating for restaurants where you can fuckin day drink if you want to for some reason. You can even wear a mesh shirt like that queerbo in the picture and no one will stone you to death.

>>716130460
ftfy

>>716131839

>>716131665
Why does everything look like it's made from plastic? Everything looks fake

>>716130360
Based on what? Even with 400 ping my rank equivalent in NA feels like playing against toddlers.

>>716127007
You don’t because you are an ugly mutt. It’s literally the loser’s dilemma. When you don’t have any stakes of course you wouldn’t give a shit. This is how losers cope.

>>716123109 (OP)
i think one thing that we can all agree on is that the french are absolute dogshit at video games.

>>716132201
I think this is from when it was freshly painted because I'm pretty sure that Ruby's is something else now
I know this thing is made of steel and aluminum

>>716130360
how many NA players are there even in those teams

I mean, you could argue that Europeans not only have a higher population concentrated on a smaller geographical zone. But they are also closer to Asians so they can play with them at a relative good ping and that helps the competition and improvement A LOT
But for some reason, this doesn't apply tho Canada as it does for USA. So at the end I got to the conclusion that it's insane how bad the average American is at competitive vidya. Canada despite having a population way lower still has a way higher pro-play per capita. In LoL you can see it quite much.
Also, something I noticed. It's VERY rare to see a white American being pro. Like 90% of the time their best pros are Asians. You can also see this in League.
This is the AoE2 chart of players from 2024 when it comes to pvp. USA has the highest amount of players BY FAR. And guess how many pros they have in the top 50? 1, and not only that, but guess what? HE IS ASIAN AND SPEAKS CHINESE
Canada on the other hand has the best AoE player in current time. But also has a like 4 more players in the top 50
I really don't know what causes this, but it really grabbed my attention

>>716132989
>AoE player in current time
dude there are like 20 "pro" players playing that game, competition is very limited. Its nothing like cs, broodwar or sc2 at its peak

because europeans don't work 30% of the year which they spend most of it doing vidya

>>716132989
>But they are also closer to Asians so they can play with them at a relative good ping and that helps the competition and improvement A LOT
That's actually wrong. Despite being geographically closer, lots of the routing is done over NA, giving EUs just about the worst ping imaginable. pic related

>>716132989
>rts/moba shit
>asian
not a big surprise

>>716133424
AoE2 currently has the biggest viewership when it comes to tournaments in the RTS. I know SCB,SC2 used to be BIG, but it's not the case anymore.
Comparing it to CS doesn't make sense because that games is like top 5 most played games in the world and RTS a niche genre by comparison
The game has around 300k active ranked players, so I don't think you could say the competition is low.
And besides that, even if you choose to believe it is low, that still doesn't explain why there's so few Americans in the top despite having the highest playerbase by far.

>>716133746
>rts/moba shit
>asian
>not a big surprise
AoE2 is mostly dominated by Europeans and South Americans, tho. With the exception of Hera of course, who is the best

>>716131325
A small part of it yes, but russians are not European.

>>716123304
thanks for paying for my socialism daddy

>>716131839
lol

>>716123789
Euros have no sense of individuality or national pride because there’s nothing interesting about them as an individual and much less about their country. Meanwhile Americans, Russians, and Chinese have national pride coming out of their ass. To cope, euros all sort of developed this superorganism mob think where they identify as a giant collective. Bit sad, innit?

>>716123304
>NA CS keep getting advantages over advantages over advantages over all the other scenes for years before covid struck
>STILL was the laughing stock of Counter-Strike
State of (YOU). And one of the best teams were a bunch of Polish construction workers who did this part time before Counter Strike became big

>>716126327
Yeah, man. I binged dota for 10 minutes and there wasn't a single cinematic cutscene, what the hell? Like they just want you to do stuff instead of watching little movies. That's not what gaming is about.

>>716126473
>article about making handing gibs out more efficient
Can you actually not read, or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>716124435
Texan here
Why play an FPS when I can go shoot?

>>716137169
>Euros have no sense of individuality or national pride
This is objectively untrue

>>716129591
All the people being "anorexic" is a good start. Then the lack of cars. Nobody being robbed. Not enough ads. Alcohol without brown safety bags.

>>716124252
>Unironic gookshill
Fuck outta here with that fraud, gaylord.

Pretty sure this has already been answered, it's because Europeans have to choose between village idiot, village blacksmith, or twitch streamer as sustainable career choices.

>>716137169
>Euros have no sense of individuality or national pride
This

fuck i actually want to play on NA servers so bad. in every fucking game NA players are more social and more shitpost(ish?) but I get almost 200 ping so it's over...

>american culture

>>716127793
>Unless you have a disability neetbux in Western Europe for a single male is often not even enough to cover the rent + electricity + water bills.

You get paid the rent, electricity and water bills you retard, and you get 800€ on top of that. Fatties literally sit in the street if they don't have a job. He's right retard, but that won't be going on much longer.

>>716123109 (OP)
Honestly, I am American and I don't get it either. We generally fucking suck at E-Sports. Basically NA is on average the worst region (We're counting real regions, not South America or Africa lmao) HOWEVER we'll randomly have 1 or 2 guys that are like a top 3 player in the world.
If you look at the top 10 players of a game, 9 of them will be European/Asian and then 1 of them will be American and he'll be like #2 or #3. Otherwise though, most of our players are just not good. I don't get it. We have a huge population and a large gaming culture, yet I cannot think of a game where America is the strongest region.
Maybe something like Quake back in the day, but that barely counts as e-sports was heavily regional. Once it became more global America has been dominated in everything. In FPS Europeans rule. In the FGC it is East Asians. In RTS it is Europeans again. In MOBAs it is East Asians/European. Those are all of the major e-sports and America does not do particularly well in any of them. Like I said, you'll have one or two American fighting game players who are good, but on average we fucking suck and are at risk of being worse than the fucking Caribbean in SF6.

>>716128214

>>716126532
Punk is literally one of the best players in the world and he is black, come on dude. He is not good by "American Standards" he is in contention for best player in SF6 right now.

>>716139702
that panda looks so fucking depressed

>>716125238
>meanwhile the LoL goat of Soloq who achieved GM in 5 roles
I'm happy I don't understand this sentence.
Reds like hebrew or arabic babble
>UMSHALA GOAT SHOLOQ GUMA LOL
haha you're a kek

>>716140619
no it looks expressed

>>716123109 (OP)
>Both are still getting shit stomped by China and Korea
Crabs in a bucket.

>>716139702
>holiday tree

>>716123109 (OP)
By what metrics? I'm certain the average NA player is better at FPS games than euros. And I'm certain if we tallied up all the EVO Champs in history there would be way more NAs than Euros

>>716140389
What the fuck happened in 2020

>>716140336
Fighting games are not all "ruled" by east Asians anymore. They had a distinct advantage back in the 10s since their online infrastructure allowed for more constructive practice, primarily due to the fact that Japan is like half the size of the smallest US state, but ever since rollback being implemented and there being a stronger esports scene in general, Americans have been rolling all over the fgc

>>716123109 (OP)
>NA
>its a fucking gook
lol

>>716123109 (OP)
Because burgers are console babbies

>>716141075
>muh vaxx
>muh mask
>muh freedoms
>*dies*

>>716140389
>comparable countries
ah the misdirection is subtle

The lack of language cohesion.
When americans lose, they start flinging shit at eachother to shift the blame which offers no self-reflection.
When yuros lose they can't bother shit flinging because the other guys may be from bumfuckistan and speak in tongues so trying to "reason" feels like talking to yourself loudly, like a schizo.

>>716141075
Trump didn't believe in corona or vaccines and barely did anything against corona which caused hundreds of thousands of extra deaths in usa
It's crazy americans are totally fine with that and reelected him again

>>716128214
>Americans actually have to go out and do something
Then how comes all of you are so fat?

>>716123109 (OP)
>>716144927

(the actual answer)Basically this, but put more sharply. Native speakers always have larger incentive to not play the game, or be distracted from the competitive side. Banter and the social aspect is a larger part of the experience, so EU side is more focused on just the game. So it's always going to be a bit of an uphill battle for NA competitive side.

It's the (real) answer given 20 years ago and it's still true today.

>>716125238
modern control users should have to win 5 rounds instead of 2, especially because having access to your characters actual moveset doesn't matter because no move in the game even comes close to the almighty Street Fighter normal throw. God I hate this series.

yeah thats why koreans are the best. they cant understand eachother

>>716145167
My dad bought into the anti-vaxx shit. He was always healthy and fit, then he got covid and he just died. I didn't even get to say goodbye. Actually had to stop browsing 4chan for like a year, because all the "the coof is just a cold" shit made me depressed as fuck.

The greatest gamer of all time is American though
>>716128952
As if Lol players of any nationality go outside and interact with people

>>716123304
People use the opposite argument to "explain" why Asians are so good at videogames.

>>716124061
while on average the japanese still are overwhelmingly represented (along with an increasing chinese contingent) the top of the top is much less homogenous. There have been many times where the majority consensus was that the top 2 players were both black and or arab and that's just street fightet. In tekken the strongest region is pakistan and arguably the best player in the world and a strong contender for goat is from there.
DBZFighters is nigger infested too.

>>716123109 (OP)
Eu doesn't really have same dude bro culture that US has. Average normie gamer in EU is basically hardcore nerd compared to average cod dude bro.

Depending on the game it's quite normal for americans to get thrashed by europeans.
I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen and taken part in it myself. Some europoor in Napoleonic Wars can and will massacre an entire group of 20 people while sitting at 150+ ping

>>716126308
>literal chad hosts warcraft 3 lan party in his mom's basement
This pretty much sums it up. Nothing like this exist in USA. Back in my highschool my school used to have literal CS and minecraft servers set up in our computer class which everybody played in, nerd to chad. We also used to host lan parties in sauna houses. Its was the shit.

>>716139898
>You get paid the rent, electricity and water bills you retard
false

>>716123109 (OP)
it's because americans are passive aggressive bitches that start crying as soon as somebody tells them they're shit and demand they get banned right after the game
when i stop competitive gaming here in europe i start thinking about all the times the enemy and teammates called me nigger and think about what i could have done better and if they were right
you're thinking about what food to order for dinner after you're done gaming
who do you think invented "being toxic"?

>>716127007
>Who. Gives. A. Shit.
Obviously not you. It's called a white mans burden for a reason.

>>716123109 (OP)
More NEETs, bigger pool of pro gamers. Higher IQ and whiter.

>>716123109 (OP)
>>716123304
Asians are better than euros at games, so this doesn't make sense.
But yea, as a NEET european I certainly feel that NA servers are easy mode if you can handle the high ping. They can be more fun to play in sometimes if you're looking for a casual experience. Americans talk way too much in games while in Europe nobody EVER speaks in text or voice chat unless it's to insult somebody.

Then there's Russians who only suck balls or cheat. There's no in-between. I'm glad I'm seeing less of them now that Putin is systematically baiting the retards with promises of money he's never actually going to pay them, into getting themselves fucked in the ass by drones at front lines.

Burgers are rich and have the luxury of having ten gorillion activities open to them at any time, which means you smfh sinking time into the only game you can afford for the year.
The pakis who are good at Tekken like Arslan and Atif do literally nothing but play tekken as much as they can.

>>716123304
Basicallh this, eurobros, I love yah. But you're lazy, helpless and for the most part useless in any given buisness setting. But I do envy your chill ass lifestyle. Playing games and chilling out at home isn't such a bad thing.

>>716124435
This guy knows, makes sense

>>716152652
>The pakis who are good at Tekken like Arslan and Atif do literally nothing but play tekken as much as they can.
this is literally also true of every top level player of every fighting game of every nationality and I suspect acrias all competitive gaming

>>716137502
Let's be real here, no one is going to make the benefit system more efficient when it employs so many people.

>>716130214
eurangutans suck ass at fighting games

>>716153336
nobody but niggers plays fighting games, makes sense NA fags care about it so much

>>716150037
they have way more sponsorship and coaching opportunities, same problem you find with physical sports and asians their whole economy is geared toward esports so it's difficult to find coaches and training opportunities

>>716124435
The actual answer.

>>716153461
japs and towelheads play them too

>>716139898
>You get paid the rent, electricity and water bills you retard, and you get 800€ on top of that.
Which country? This isn't the case for Belgium, France, Italy, Spain and Bongistan. I said Western Europe for a non disabled single white male. Why do you make shit up?

the population of europe is 745 million in a similar geographic area as the united states.

>>716125890
>Image cuts off Scotland
What sort of retard made this image?

>>716125890
>Has to bring up ancient shit before america was a thing
Lel