how big are Meisho Doto's tits?
>>716143605 (OP)>airhead>huge titsclassic
>>716145561she is just like me except i am a 30yo male that is currently working from home and trying to clear all touhou games
>>716143605 (OP)She's still the biggest out of the cast.
>>71614639699cm, so she is an E-cup.
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>>716143605 (OP)I LOVE THIS RICH HAG!
>>716146521>biggest is a Edo japenises really
SHOOT GACHANIGGERS IN THE FACE
>Long race
>SW is beating my Queen by a long shot mid race
>200 meter near finish she suddenly goes into sudden halt
>Check her stats
LMAO
>think to myself "look, it's ok if I buy a few carats, I've put 20 hours into this game. Surely a 10roll is like five bucks right"
>actually check the prices
>mfw
I'll just keep being a F2P with no black kitasan I guess
>>716143605 (OP)This shit is so fucking pathetic and gay
>>716148809They have gotta stop letting bovines into Tracen
I prefer Pokke delicious flatness
>>716148912Cygames should bring both banners and events faster.
>>716148809What would she do if I slide my hands inside her shirt from the bottom?
Is this good? I don't know what skill to choose
>>716149491why did she do that?
>>716149639Focus isn't that good, but it's fine to throw spare SP at if you need to spend at the end of the round.
>>716149690she's feelin a bit maverick
>>716149690Everyone was trying to ruin my Mayo run. Even Mayo herself.
>>716149690Brian didn't laugh at the joke she made yesterday.
>4 different threads
Can't you fags check the catalog first?
>>716150110Can't you apply for a janny position first?
>goldship is a long end runner
How do you even build these?
>>716150542I'm literally playing the game right now ya daft cunt. I just want discussion focused on one or two threads instead of spread out like that, and it's just good imageboard etiquette. Does no one care about the fucking board quality anymore?
>>716151179tons of final corner/spurt skills and a bunch of power with a few navigation skills on top
>>716149925>Focus isn't that goodFocus and Concentration prevent most Front and Pace RNG bullshit by ensuring they get in a good early position
Despite the description saying it helps against Late Starts, it increases and mostly maximizes their start time every race it procs
How did she become the most popular uma in the West
>>716151508Crazy bitches are the most fun
>>716143605 (OP)what the hell are those things on her back supposed to be? Giant cashews?
>>716143605 (OP)is the other thread genuinely full of bots? I don't get it
>hurr why is this popular>20 replies spouting shitposting nonsense>ba and playercount shit>there's always one up???
guys I'm fucking broke how am I supposed to make money
>>716149491this is the first time I have seen gameplay of the game.
honestly looks pretty comfy.
>>716152026A giant one of these.
How is uma doing in JP? I know it's still pretty popular despite some decline, but with the global release being such a huge success I wonder if itโs sparked renewed interest.
>>716148050I wish she was
>>716152375it's basically a raising sim (think princess maker) where you get to watch races every now and again
also mixed with a lottery machine designed to siphon money and/or your soul but that's every gacha
>>716152187by getting a job
>>716152463Still going strong, lives sell out fast even at huge venues.
Merchandise sells well, CDs sell well.
Game still pulls in good money when thereโs something actually worth rolling for, but all but the largest whales have basically figured out when something is actually worth rolling for, so the game doesnโt hit the same peaks as before when people were pissing away cash to max out everything like for the first 18 months.
>>716152637I mean in the game
every day the monies are decreasing
>>716152698By getting a job, as a trainer. Career run net 10k each if you win URA finals and daily races can get you 5k each if you win the most dificult one.
gacha game players should be drowned in horse cum!
>>716152813>10kthat's like 1 item on the daily sale... and there are 3 sales...
>>716152187Race in careers give out money, so you can do a career where you don't train and just spam races.
>>716152813 (me)
Also stop spending so fucking much, you don't need every single card and horse power-leveled to max right away, save up and only spend on the shit you actually use.
>>716152869Most of the shit on there isn't even worth buying like those race consumables and upgrade items. I only buy clocks sometime, and maybe a star if it's for a character I'm actively trying to increase the star level on.
>>716151508beginning of a new era clips with don toliver songs edited on to them
>>716152954If this was an actual game meant to be enjoyed by players and not a gacha meant to drain your soul and wallet, they'd allow you to reset a card's level for a small fee so you can try other builds instead of just following an internet guide.
>>716151508agp magnet
i wish i was joking but she fits into every character trope agps in particular like. its actually really funny that you can figure out the type of characters they latch on to as its always a stereotype about being able to change gender. they saw the vr space at the start of tachyons career and have latched on since
>>716149491>Wants a kiss if she wins first place>Motivates her as she rounds the last cornerMy heart...
Follow me!
157076586018
8* stamina + MLB Kitasan black
>First run with Top Cun
>lost at URA Finale semis
>still got a 3 speed spark even though speed was only at about 800
I failed her...
Which uma would you marry?
>>716153591It doesn't matter that you failed anon, she knew you tried your hardest and rewarded you with a 3* speed spark so she could inspire your other Umas to greatness
>>716153373Teio is cute
CUTE!
>>716152968>I know she a horse girl, just can't prove it yet
>>716153889make way best girl coming through
>>716153889teio is UGLY
UGLY!
>>716152968I can believe she's human, but the directior is 100% an Uma. She has that white hair streak only Umas have in this world, no humans have it.
So, when it says in promotion range how many more points or races do I have to win?
>>716154278you already have enough points to promote, you just need to stay above the demotion line
>>716154225>he hasn't used her support cardTheres a scene where Trainer-kun is amazed at how fast Tazuna can run
>>716154225>when you catch her changing
>>716154278None I believe, from what I've gathered promotion is based on the point you have gotten. If you're above the line you get promoted.
>>716151508I like the movie and Uesaka Sumire
>>716152187The forbidden Urara abuse technique
How are my cards? Good Bad?
>>716153889>so what kind of alternate outfit should she have>expose her tummy and barely cover her chestWhat were they thinking?
>>716154463Baically all of those SRs are god-tier, but of course 0LB, so you at least have the potential. SSRs are quite mid.
>>716154463Below average. If you're not invested I recommend rerolling
>>716154194A Korean made this probably.
>>716154637>RerollI'm out off carrots lol
>>716154651>pretty badI thought so
>>716154693>Baically all of those SRs are god-tier, but of course 0LB,Oh really? should I use them instead of my SSRs?
>so you at least have the potential. SSRs are quite mid.Dam I thought all SSRs were good
>>716155195>Below average. If you're not invested I recommend rerollingI try to when I get some more carrots
>>716155670"reroll" as in "repeatedly make new accounts until you get something of value"
>>716155670A same LB SSR is almost always better than an SR, but in your case those SSRs are quite doo-doo whilst those SRs are qutie good, so I'd still use them over the SSRs in this case. What makes a card good or bad is almost always the ammount of LBs, though some cards are just straight up better than others, including most of your SRs.
>>716155670Reroll means to make a new account and use your starter gibs to pull. It's pretty fast, I recommend looking up a guide and going for at least 2 Kitasan Black support cards and either Super Creek or Fine Motion
Or you can not give a shit about any of that because it's only really relevant for PVP
>>716155846nta but this seems like such a miserable way to play any game. I'm not sure if it says more about the players or about the games themselves that so many people basically feel the need to restart entirely if they don't win a dice roll right out of the gate.
I take it back. You are fucking useless
asked the other thread. nothing.. so i'll try asking here. how do i build team trial team? what am i suppose to work towards?
>>716156029Personally, I don't like rerolling, but it's something you do right when you start playing. No one in their right mind would ditch a months-old account just to reroll.
>>716156029Players. Most gachas have extremely strict metas where you are just throwing if you don't have "the" thing so a mentality of rerolling until you get it is very common among gacha players. Uma is extremely friendly in that regard as "the" thing doesn't really exist outside of a few support cards, and you can always just borrow them if you don't want to go through the hastle.
>first race
>boxed all the way to 13th
what I get for dumping guts ig
>>716156059TRAIN STAMINA
GIVE HER STAMINA SKILLS
SHE RUNS LONG
AAAAIIIEEEEEE
>>716156437>train stamina>no good stamina cardsWell fuck.
>>716156517Your Satono Diamond spook???
You're not Kitasan but I'll take it
>>716156578I actually have her at LB1 but it doesn't feel like she's making a difference, probably because she's the only one I'm using.
>>716156517The game gives you a Mejiro McQueen and a Rice Shower free Stamina SSRs just for finishing the story trading club points
Are they super good? No, but they are decent
>>716156868I didn't know if they were even worth it so I still haven't spent any club points yet.
>>716156921Bro you just have to skip some cutscenes
>>716156653She's so cute I can't wait until she comes out.
is Twin Turbo THE FASTEST!?
>>716157037I have them at LB0, it's more about maxing them to make them feel more worth it.
Guys, do we have to save carats now? When is the next big thing we *must* have? I don't even have all 1 star uma trainees yet.
>>716157220The next "must" from what I've heard is seiun sky who drops sometime in august since her ult is supposedly stupid strong.
RAPE GACHANIGGERS WITH A HOT POKER
>>716157080She's THE DUMBEST!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_9YxDl_r24
>>716154225shes just larping
>>716157678Lovely human girl
I wish horsegrills were real.
>level up goldship to 3 stars
>explosssion with her red signature clothes
>????
>see if megumin va voices her
>she does not
disappointed.
>>716149690That's some dumb fucking hair, like a 2nd head tumor.
>>716155846>"reroll" as in "repeatedly make new accounts until you get something of value"Oh, seems a bit extreme over a couple bad pulls
>>716155952>A same LB SSR is almost always better than an SR, but in your case those SSRs are quite doo-doo whilst those SRs are qutie good, so I'd still use them over the SSRs in this case. What makes a card good or bad is almost always the ammount of LBs, though some cards are just straight up better than others, including most of your SRs.Alright I think I get it now
>>716155979>Reroll means to make a new account and use your starter gibs to pull. It's pretty fast, I recommend looking up a guide and going for at least 2 Kitasan Black support cards and either Super Creek or Fine Motion>Or you can not give a shit about any of that because it's only really relevant for PVPI mostly play for the horse girls and the story
please please PLEASE JUST GIVE ME THE 5 CHAR TRAINING FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
>>716154637>>716154651>>716155195>>716154463There's nothing really there unfortunately
If you just want to do the career it will work, but you already have no event card so you won't lose that by rerolling for metashit if you think you want to play longer
>>716156029It's a staple in gacha games at this point and you are honestly gimping yourself if you don't do it at least a couple of times. The difference between a 1 single roll account and an account that rolled for an hour until he got some decent starting line-up can be hundreds of hours of grind down the line.
>>716156096lol yeah I got there but that's the issue with half dozen horse threads going
you good?
>>716157518>thought he was fucking HAYAI for outrunning the pack so much at the start>ended up being dead last because he is a Staminaletkek
>>716156096Just put your best girls from each category and call it a day.
If you really want to "win" a lot, the meta is to have 1 runner with debuff skills to bring down everyone else and 1 good runner.
Also keep in mind that you get points for each skill activated, some people try to put as many skills as possible on their runners so they can get a shitton of points, even if they don't win.
.
>>716157131I have a couple of each of the cards but i've never used them. I used the club/friend points on Toppers and Ricey star pieces
This is after like 10 rerolls. Most of the time, I ended up with 0-2 SSRs. How the fuck are people getting 4 Kitasans???
Probably still need to reroll again since no dupes...
>>716158365its like a %.4 to go for it
>>716158365>10You've only just begun
>>716158365>How the fuck are people getting 4 Kitasans???There are ways to set up 4-6 instances of the game running at the same time.
>>716158236Yeah I'm good. I just want to understand this mode. seems like its pure random as you are faced with seemingly same power level of opponents.
>>716158295so its just a dick measuring contest? i thought there was some sort of strategy to it.
>>716148076just reroll bro
I rerolled for one hour on saturday until I got 4 kitasans with the initial 90 rolls, then yesterday I rolled 40 more times to see if I got super creek or any good stamina cards, and I got the 5th kitasan
it's that easy
>>716158467>flat chest>hips bigger than most of the big umasMade for turbo sex.
been playing since release and i still haven't gotten a single 3* spark
>>716158365I think you're getting tricked into a mental breakdown. Just play the game
>>716158667Same, I have 60 wins with 600+ Speed, Stamina and Power (and a few of those with 1100+ in a stat) and I still don't have a single 3* spark. It's really killing my motivation
>>716156029it's just one time at the beginning you dramatic fag, and in this game you can reroll ever 2 minutes while you watch gray's anatomy or whatever
>>716158529>i thought there was some sort of strategy to it.I mean, the strategy is in building your runner properly so she can win the race. It's going to be different for every type of race and girl, and also based on what supports you have. You're supposed to figure that out yourself if you want to pvp sweat.
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>>716158529yeah the tiers are roughly even in rating, but rating doesn't really mean how good the uma is at that race.
you get 3 options to vs for race - high, med, low rated opp. You can just choose low if you're worried
I'm in class 4 now as F2P, I watch races and try to tailor where I see weaknesses
There's no need to do any of that though if you don't want
>>716148076Literally just reroll. If you got a lot of free time but no money, reroll. If you've got money but no time, buy an account.
Just make sure to not get scammed like a chump because account markets are gray area markets and there are a lot of people looking for an easy mark.
Alright anons, which unique skill is the most hype in your opinion? For me, it's Just a Little Farther
>The short, punchy animation
>The name that perfectly encapsulates what I'm thinking every time it procs
>The way it always triggers the fucking attosecond she steps into 3rd, as if to say "no fuck you I'm not gonna be a third-place jobber this time"
Pure cinema every time. Never gets old
>>716158667>>716158773Took per over 100 careers my first one (stam)
>>716157220Curren Chan in a week or so if you really need another sprinter.
Then Seiun Sky.
Then Summer Maruzensky.
Then Christmas Oguri after that. This one is the big one.
There's also a Super Creek card banner if you don't have her already, don't remember when that one is though.
>>716159131Never seen that skill cause it takes a million statues and monies to upgrade her.
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uooooh tiny oppai horses dancing
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BNBDCay986Y
>>716159259watching people attach the uooohh meme to anything reminds me of the steam forums and all the normalfags attempting to fit in by using memes they dont know
>>716158529Winning give you more points and winning consecutively gives you more points. In the low brackets it's really easy to level up so you don't really need to win you just need to put your horses out there and you're going to get enough points to level up so I can seem like nothing's happening. But eventually you're going to need to win to get enough points to rank up.
>>716159381Sorry, fag, but the expression is funny and loli is shit. Sit on it and spin.
>>716159180Curren isn't a must have, I'd argue Falco is more important since she can sprint and becomes dirt queen until copano rickey.
Seiun is an absolute must have for frontrunners since Angling x Scheming is a must have inherit on any frontrunner
Summer Maruzensky is pretty good too but you'll also want to roll the Aoharu launch banner since it's the only decent support card banner in literal ages given others are bait or straight up trash.
XOguri is the next big must roll banner after Aoharu yeah.
>>716159131Triumphant pulse.
>>716158529It's not strictly about winning or losing, it's about collecting as many points as you can (though of course winning and placing well gives you bonus points). Having different racing strategies on each participant for each race type also gives you bonus points.
One of the biggest point generators is actually skill activations, which is why wit is not entirely a meme.
the terrorists have captured doto
>>716159131for me its suzuka blasting off every single last spurt, especially when she already has a sizeable lead and it just feels like she's rubbing it in
>>716149491my daughter can sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbb2FejtBEU&list=RDbbb2FejtBEU
>>716152968>>716154225whas the appeal of being human?
>>716159131I really like Maruzensky smirking at (you) as she accelerates
Then the animation ends and her pip on the mini map is pulling away
thank you for asking
Uninstalled this game today, finally free. What a waste of time.
>>716148076Never spend. Its not worth.
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>>716160615I'm gonna do the same after I get all the trophies. This game completely tanks my productivity in the day and I don't even have time for other games.
>>716157220look at the calendar and roll with your dick
>>716154264damn maybe homestretch haste is not that bad
>>716160149Ogurin is truly an anime protag material.
>130 pulls and no kitasan
I don't think I'm gonna make it bros...
>>716161716That would be Golshi
>>716161785Reset your whole account
i really hate rice shower
>>716161785>Team Trials > Exclamation mark > Global > Exclamation mark on top player/s > Look for Kitasan MLB > FollowThat shrimple.
>>716161716Indeed she is.
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>>716161839But it's my starting account, what will all the umas I trained so far say?
>>716162701I was using the friend slot to borrow Super Creek...
>>716156096When you have card good enough to beat the game handily, start doing campains with an emphasis on getting as many good skills as possible. Do more optional races, get skill points, and GET MORE STAMINA (at least 600 on every non-sprinter)
>having a decent run with Nice Nature
>Arima kinen happens
>never makes it to 1st
so close and yet so far for my poor horse...
My teo keeps jobbing I don't get it. She keeps losing to horses who have the same stat distribution as her but WORSE. I have started watching the races and not only is she unable to keep up with slower horses her special NEVER activates what is she DOING?
>>716163312Pace is the most easily RNG fucked position in the game.
>>716143605 (OP)How is the game as F2P?
>>716148076The prices are actually insane. They poisoned the well by giving me way to many free carrots
>>716163716Didn't stop some guy on /vg/ from dropping 10k to max out his deck.
>>716143605 (OP)actually she is no 1. She has the biggest tits out of all umas according to the chart
>>716163706Fantastic I would say
>>716163781Well someone has to. Men with a job but no wife accumulates money
>>716154225I felt the opposite. She doesn't really seem like an uma to me.
>join random club
>people actually request shoes
>but the requests all happen and time out while I'm asleep
I think I accidentally joined a euro club this sucks
The people who pay for gacha are the same breed of autists who fall for crypto scams
>>716148076I spent for the guaranteed free *3 plus carats. Don't regret it but I can feel that voice in my head telling me "you already spent once might as well keep spending for that kitasan :)"
Scary stuff. I never spend on mobile shit. Would rather buy an Uma anime figure than spend hundreds on a marginally better card.
>>716164135i'm sure you're so much better spending all your free time seething on /v/
>>716164246lol what did I tell you
>did King Halo's career expecting it to be a disaster
>barely make it out alive
>becomes my first A rank
Huh?
god damn, my first ranking over 11k
wit 1* spark, lol
>>716156059you put 2 stamina cards in, right?
>>716164507-600 stam
-3 stam skills
do you really need that much for mid races?
>>716164616I know Super Creek, what's the best SR Stamina card?
>Mood bad
>Do a date
>Raises to normal
>Oguri sees a cloud in the sky that makes her sad and goes back to bad
>Go on a date again
>Lowered to bad once more with night owl this time
Please just bring aoharu already I am begging I don't want to do ura ever again
>>716164686probably not but since the other stats were doing so well i just went full stamina at the end of career.
>>716164479As expected of a first rate umamusume
>>716164869You have to get the secretary card and take her on a date instead. If that doesn't put your horse in line nothing will
>>716165595Yeah but it's arguable whether Tazuna is a good pick or not. She introduces consistency and more stable runs but it's easier to get higher statlines by borrowing someone else.
Riko does away with this entire argument though because she's better tazuna AND is optimal for the new campaign because of scenario link.
>>716166005i would say tazuna (even kiryuin too) are necessary for the horses that are really prone to mood downs
>>716162979CUTE
Vodka is CUTE, CUTE, CUTE
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So Umas have other skills other than super strenght/speed...
Downloaded the game, got daiwa scarlet on very first pull, then a bunch of the green dress girl cards. Did some auto content but what am I missing. The girls are cute and have huge titties aside from that I don't understand the sudden appeal. Like I don't need to play this extremely obnoxious gacha game ui when pictures of daiwa scarlet or gold ship brushing their hair with a facial blush are free online.
Using my goo goo to make babies with Super Creek
>>716167895the girls are the hook, but the game itself is addictive
>>716167895You don't have to understand everything.
I don't understand why zoomers and other kids always need to announce they don't like a game or understand it like anyone cares or gives a shit just like you don't understand why would anyone enjoy a game like this.
Do horses actually like sugar cubes? Isn't that shit bad for them
>>716167895i play this game because i like raising sims
>>716164686The more stamina the better unironically. In fact in pvp stamina actually wins against speed.
A horse with 1200 speed and 400 stamina would lose against a horse with 800 speed and 600 stamina.
HOW THE FUCK DO I WIN WITH WINNING TICKET AND KING HALO, FUCKING HATE LATE SURGERS
Does anyone here play Era games?
>>716168192inherit them to A pace
>>716152968Fun fact: when you date her with her pal card you get an event where she outruns Taiki Shuttle.
The events on the king halo SR are dogshit
>Choose between Mood -1 or Energy -20
>>716151508>Says she's a mad scientist >She mainly just larps in her lab and drinks sugary drinks all day Is she supposed to be a Stein's gate reference
>>716168192Get:
>Eishin Flash SR card>Tokai Teio R/SR card>A legacy with "Triumphant pulse" + "Behold thine emperor" + "Warning shot" skills (not necessarily all 3, but at least 2 of those):https://uma-global.pure-db.com/#/search
Post update later.
>>716163652Is this the gacha game with the highest concentration of tomboys?
>>716164686Medium races require around 1000 without gold skills and considering she got three skills 600 is around the right stamina (still has consistency issue because 400 wit mean it most likely won't fire all the time). The thing about URA is the fact it secretly buff all of your horses stats. Outside of it staminalet always loses, even against oponnent with much lower speed.
>>716168192King Halo career is aids
>>716168462Wait, only the 3 stars variant of Goldship's skill can be passed down, so it isn't "Warning Shot" but rather "Anchors Aweigh!" (same effect but stronger)
>>716168540Funny that the first tomboy you get is the only mare of the bunch alongside her rival
>>716163652For some reason Ryans tits always felt like they were the biggest in the game, even thought they aren't
Maybe its because McQueen is among the flattest so they look bigger in comparison
>>716168076GOLSHI GOLSHI GOLSHI
Watch the uberkino movie. Wish I had webm of Tachyon running.
>>716168192Late surger is the kinoest of strategies
>>716168052Are you retarded, I didn't announce that I don't like the game. I will announce to you right the fuck now that I downloaded the game because of daiwa scarlet and rolled once just for me to see her hips swaying instantly my screen, kamisama loves me and not you btw, then I posted about it on the horse girl thread. I said the ui is shit and asked why bother with it, some anons gave me replies and you seethed instantly, lmao loser.
>>716168714why does the animation for a horse gacha game have cooler speedlines than the Evangelion reboot?
>>716153241I thought AGP was just a fetish about wanting to masturbate as the opposite gender
>>716154264HAPPY HARU IS CUTE CUUUUTE!
>>716168934Because Evangelion is and always was an entry level midwit anime
>>716148076The prices save me from spending.
A couple bucks for 1500 carats would actually be tempting.
>>716168934there's no speedlines there just camera shake
BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN BAKUSHIN
>>716164479You didn't give up on her being first rate and she clutches when it matters. She's always somehow trading 1st and 2nd spots with my Superb Bakushin despite being only 700~ speed.
>>716168192Eugenics up her aptitudes and give her the right abilities.
>>716168934Cygames has an in-house animation studio that locks in when they need to
>>716169174why live when you know you will never have winning ticketo as your wife
>>716169086Yeah true enough, I don't think there's any speedlines in this movie.
>>716168462I wish I had someone with Rudolf for that skill.
>>716159131I like Specchan's magical girl transformation, it's super easy to use too
>>716169174>named Winning Ticket>she keeps losing my races
>>716169082Yea, 23 bucks is too much. Maybe they perceive a pull similar to opening a case in CSGO or TF2 but these games come with an economy and market to make a possible profit.
In this game you stick with what you got, with no possibility to sell items or umas. If a pull was 75 cents, maybe, but as it is, I don't believe many anons here will spent money.
>>716169376At least you won't have to hear her crying and go to the japan derby every year.
>>716169376I dunno, anon, she is nice but at the same time she WILL cry at the slightest provocation, and if married probably spontaneously
>>716148076I will just borrow her if need be. I am not aiming for any leaderboards anyway, I just want to make the best King Halo I can.
>Take tazuna
>Horse never gets sick or gets mood downs
>Tazuna's dates end up feeling useless
>Don't take Tazuna
>Horse has more moodswings than a teenage girl
I swear this shitty game is so rigged
>>716153782Tachyon or Nice Nature
>>716161716Kitahara is coming back, right?
>>716169368Say goodbye to your pelvis.
>>716168639It has to be otherwise you're liable to miss out on what makes her so great.
>>716169689>Objective: Survive
look at the size of that forehead goddamn
do you see the resemblance
>>716153782It would be easier to list the ones I wouldn't marry.
>>716158546Fucking luckshitter
I have been re-rolling for past 20 hours with one break in middle with never seeing even 3 Kitas
>>716168934Cygames actually pays their animators enough that they can afford two cups of noodles per day.
>>7161686031000? do you have a chart you are pulling these numbers from?
>>716151508That would be Haru.
>>716157878If you're only playing for the story then you can be comfy and just not give a fuck. Your careers will be harder but that's more fun anyways imo
>>716169971where's the one in her racewear where she goes to rainbow dimension and tries to catch herself
>>716169835What event is this
>>716148076Starting with Azur Lane spoiled me so hard that even it's subscription package makes me cry when I try other gacha. It sucks I can't even make the monies to buy the star pieces from the daily store.
>>716170032it's the tryhard amount for pvp
>>716153782Probably Winning Creek, but Biwa "Big Head" Hayahide is also a good option because she is very pretty
>>716169873So how long until some sad lonely bastard tries to fuck one of these things?
>>716169472She's bipolar, please understand.
She also kept loosing my first 2 careers
Then on the 3rd she went undefeated until Arima Kinen only to get boxed in 3 times in a row and fail...
>>716169171I'm concerned for Bakushin. I feel like a tard wrangler whenever I train her.
I love Oguri but for some reason I'm finding her career hard as balls. Specially the Arima Kinens
>>716170223Trainer is part wrangler, no? And Bakushin needs to be wrangled so she doesn't Bakushin off a cliff
>>716170176Its not that I don't believe you Im just hoping I could see a chart to compare against. if mid is 1000 them im probably wrong about all my race estimates
>>716168192King Halo is just garbage.
>>716170102I only have the last part of that scene
>>716170247swap to pace chaser, build speed stam and wit, bring KITASAN NEGRA, learn straight recovery and corner recovery. done
>>716170176I'm nta but career pads the stats
>>716170247Oguri is easy to clear but she's a frustrating horse because she's a pacer and anything not front runner can get RNG'd into losing
Kitasan + 2 speed cards + Tazuna/Kiryuin should be a foolproof deck. If you unlocked her Gourmand skill, take it. If you didn't, borrow a creek and take maestro.
>>716170218oh that's the figurine I ordered, gonna have it by december
>>716164686Getting stam over 600 is worth it for the chance at getting a 3 stam spark
>>716159131Oguri, after the animation ends it looks like she teleports forward.
>>716170218I usually don't care about characters of her type but Rice Shower is quite cute.
>>716168714Doto looks weird when she's in serious mode.
>>716169971tachyon felt a lot like redline which is why i like her. that rainbow dimension wjtht he extreme FOV warping was really cool to see
>end runners have more stamina requirement than late surgers
Literally why, what is the reason? There are like only 1-2 good end runner supports for skills.
>>716168714>cuts off the best part
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>>716169763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PoNbuwP8ts
>2000 Takamatsunomiya Kinen.>Overcoming a 10 time defeat, that horse proved its pedigree.>Loss after loss after loss, it never bowed down its head.>Green hood. Unyielding Mass.>The name of this horse is King Halo.
>>716170414>>716170458I think I was doing that(? more or less, maybe my training was shit and I just didn't reach the stats necessary, but I did feel myself missing some skills, I don't have the SW card from the past event
Brose I got horse job today but it's far from any race tracks. What do I do?
Haru Urara anime/ova when?
>>716170774>he fell for the witslop memeoh no no no
>>716170774>>716170857Wit works but u are doing it wrong, just go 4 speed (kita mlb friend) FM and 1 stam card
>>716170385Shut your whore mouth. Build her up properly and she can run any race you want her to. First rate trainers know her true value.
>>716170857If you actually have good supports you should be using wit on everything besides long when you are going for team trials umas. Very evident if you look at the top ranked teams.
Not really necessary for farming sparks/fans though.
>>716170774Here's an average spark run for me. Kitasan and Creek are the core of the deck, everything else is easily replaceable. Slot in a Kiryuin or Tazuna if you need the training wheels for comfy runs.
Guest parent is a 9* Stamina for spark farming but it's really not necessary at all for just clearing or average spark farming.
As to why I'm borrowing MLB Biko, I don't really know myself. It's omega easy to overcap speed if I'm not careful but if I borrow Tazuna instead then I might fail the 1100 speed mark for spark farming so honestly idk what would go better there. If anyone else has some suggestions on how to improve or optimize this then I'll take them.
>>716170768On my first finale clear run with her I managed to bag the Kikuka Sho by like 5 lengths, absolute fucking miracle of a run that was.
>>716170503Print a "Mood: Awful" sign and take photo with the figure.
>>716163262I lost with her in the URA once... I never want to see her normal ending ever again.
>>716170897What a weird family.
>>716170218>Container with your Rice Shower falls into ocean during transportation
>>716170897>hated by his wife for being a horselet>tamamo cross was also an asshole with a tiny dickI'm noticing a pattern
>>716170961Thing is I was counting on borrowing Super Creek because I don't have her. I don't know if I should sacrifice Swinging Maestro for Max KB
>>716171041My kitasan is LB1 right now I still haven't gotten enough carats for the pity. Sadly the only way I can use both KB and Super Creek is borrowing the latter and using my shitty KB. Also did you prioritize certain trainings?
>>716170125claw game, random chance after recreation
>>716170897>Point Flag did not like Stay Gold's small sizeThey meant the size of the horse, right?
>>716171248Do you have mayano or manhattan SR? Kitasan also have corney recovery hint, so you are not missing it
>>716171248>Also did you prioritize certain trainings?I prioritize speed, stamina sometimes since I do want to hit the 600 mark for the 1% spark roll and wit when there's no good trainings.
Make sure to use the debut year to get all your cards (or most of them) to orange bar for the rainbows too, this is important.
>wasted 300 pulls on Kitasan
>Have only 1 from pity
I unironically planning to whale to second pity unless I get 3 kitasans on reroll account.
easiest uma to farm money?
>have no Sprint/Mile horses
>El Jobber Caca is dedicated to Dirt duty with Urara, have no one for the third slot
>forced to use Taiki Shuttle with bakushin for Sprint, have no one for the third slot
>want to roll for Manhattan Cafe so probably not going to get Seiun Sky
it's over...
SHOOT ALL GACHANIGGERS IN THE HEAD
>>716171492>wasted 300anon the whole point of dumping many rolls rn is get as many SR speed, wit and stam supports. kitasan is a bonus for future project
Have they added Secretariat now that is has gone global?
>>716170897>Stay Gold had a habit of crying after smelling his own faeces, a habit that was passed onto his son Orfevre.
>>716171589come here and do it yourself little boy
Post some art of Symboli Rudolf
>>716171647Can't get boxed if you have POWEEEEEERR
>>716171597That reminds me, are power cards just bricks? Because even guts can at least have use for when they fix guts, but I don't see the point of power supports.
>>716170897is she playable in the jp server yet?
>>716171597I got only 1 sweep tesho as well
>>716168192King Halo's career is pretty much the hardest in the game overall. It bounces between long and sprints.
Overall I'd say grind more power and stamina.
>>716171647Yeah, he was lacking in power.
>There's no second-tier pity or pity carryover
I... didn't really understand this until now
The exchange points converting to clovers mean 200 pulls across multiple banners only convert to 1 ticket. Not a random SR+ ticket or SSR ticket.... just one draw
holy shit, this means it is under NO CIRCUMSTANCES ever worth pulling UNLESS you save up 200 pulls at a time to burn on just one banner at a time
why the fuck is it like this
>>716171713If you're boxed you're boxed
Even with 1200 power you can't move the umas in front of you
You need wit to not get boxed in the 1st place
>>716171723>power card just bricks?no, you need equal speed and power if u are using end/late umas. so build goes lik 4(3) speed 0(1)wit, 1 power, 1 stam
>>716171828Cygames style pure gambling spark only no pity
everyone complaining about king halo but just yesterday I had no difficulty besides some 2nd places just because the legacy horses I gave her just so happened to put her mile and medium aptitude at A, funny
>>716171828Because there's no limiteds. Other games (hoyo) have carry over but nearly everything is limited so you have to wait for a rerun.
Here there's no carry over but limiteds don't exist and you can be randomly spooked by it when rolling another banner or just bruteforcing the gacha with money until you get what you want even if it's not on rateup.
>>716171828Welcome to nip gachas
>>716171941Aren't some holiday costume umas are limiteds?
>>716171828bro why do you think the japanese gacha industry is dying? FGO and Uma survive off inertia while the chinks and good took over the rest of the gacha market due to their gachas not being as stingy.
SMASH GACHANIGGERS WITH HAMMERS
>>7161719975 entire /v/ clubs are already full
>>716168540Starscream uma.
>>716171723Hishi Amazon's power support is quite good and usually activates its rainbow before my stamina and speed cards even if I don't focus on my power training. For a SR you should focus on it.
>>716171941has there been instances of people spooking themselves into high LB kitasan between her banners...?
>>716171892>>716171985But I... played Granblue before this years ago..
Is there an Uma Musume legend festival where rates double?
>>716171828Yes, it's Granblue style. At least you don't need 300 rolls. Later in that game's life you do get bonuses for sparking or rolling a rateup item. I wonder if there's any bonuses like that on the current JP server.
>>716171436Holy shit I actually do have both, didn't know that, are they semi-replacements for SC?
>>716171456Ok thanks, I was doing a lot of Speed Stamina (because I didn't get the best spark/growth) and Wit since I wanted my skills to activate. I'll try a different approach but Arima Kinen just seems like a bitch no matter what I do
>>716172147>has there been instances of people spooking themselves into high LB kitasan between her banners...?No but you get free uncap items on half-anniversaries and you can get items from events that transform into a free uncap item so you can eventually max LB all your SSRs.
If you played granblue then just imagine them giving out a sunstone every anniversary and half-anniversary while events give you sunstone peices to craft a full one.
>>7161719091 stam support works well for sprint and mile but for medium and long this strategy can kill your run early unless the stamina card is capped
I feel like they could've done more with the races. It's really boring to watch. Add some drama to it or something
>>716168192>King HaloFirst of all, you need to start with very specific inspirations to raise all of her distance aptitudes to A. Then you train her like a long runner for the first half of her career and pump speed later. It's easy to rack up fans and skill points with her since she can run in any turf G1 race.
>WINNING TICKETPower & Stamina and pray to Shiraoki sama for good fortune.
>>716171828what? do you guys not have wallets?
>>716168192uma musume is wit game
>>716171997All 5 are full
>>716172396a spark is like 500 bucks nigger
>People gave already maxed put Haru Urara support card.
Lucky bastards
>>716172497it was sarcasm, retard-kun
>>716172528What's the purpose of a guts card?
>>716172097>>716172470Fuck. I couldn't join the other day because I had to wait 24 hours before I could join another.
>>716172528>luckyit's like 3 weeks of going up the trials classes
>>716172345The drama is watching your uma JUST pass the one in first place as she crosses the finish line, or rushing randomly but it being a good thing, or getting a 5+ lead, or getting boxed in knowing it's over
>>716172601to make you huge
the urara guts card is extremely powerful and will be for a long time
All I do is max out speed, then wit and I've been winning 90% of my careers
>>716160149I feel like I'd like Triumphant Pulse a lot more if she didn't do that dumbass :D smile right at the end. What the fuck are you trying to pull Oguri? You're no Haru Urara.
>>716172614Don't like, even than it doesn't give you MLB Urara. The only way is either having MLB Meta Card ( Kitasan/Creek ) and spamming your id or placing top 100 in team trials at the start of the game.
>>716172601Haru support has great passive stats and no skills to learn. And 6 guts is a meme, but somehow viable strategy, since it does upgrade your speed and power also. Guts unironically is your stamina stat in this strategy.
Is this card as useless as it looks?
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Is this enough to destroy noobs in pvp?
>>716173154It's ok but only for current career
>>716172932She's the fucking best, the only horse I can trust to always win even if she is too retarded to succeed in a Wit training
>>716173158you got stam recovery skills?
>>716173154it's very good if you're playing a horse prone to mood downs
consistent energy and mood ups, plus a ton of skill points
>>716171723Absolutely not. Power is an amazing stats and power training also boosts Stam so it's doubly good. Especially with cards like Hishi Amazon SR that boosts Stamina gains.
You new trainers DID complete the New Trainer missions right? there is only 10 minutes left and you get some of freebie carats for your Kitasan rolls
>>716173154I use it all the time. Lowers training energy cost on higher levels, events raise mood and there are more recreation options (that are not necessarily great).
>>716173154It is fucking awesome. Saves energy, helps out mood, but mostly when you get halfway through a campaign, you get better rest segments that give skill and stats
>>716172345Switch to vertical camera.
>>716173158How does one even achieve this power of all stats 500 or higher?
>>716151508Good costume design, helped by the really good animation in the movie, good character arc in both the game and movie storylines, has funny moments in the game
Can fit both the wife and crazy bitch-tier well depending on which personality is closest
>>716173545the personal blessings of rng jesus
>>716173158Post recovery skills
>>716173236>can slam into 1200 speed and wit with right sparks
>>716173154For me it's a must have for this scenario.
>>716173353i didnt have a horse that could compete in one of the races so no
>>716143605 (OP)Big enough for me.
>>716171723Amazon SR is good for Golshi
Other than that power is not worth it right now
You get enough power from skilling Speed
>check King Haloโs legacy affinity with every horse trainable in global
>not a single one has 30+ affinity with her
Damn she hates everyone.
>>7161735459 star parents + leveled up support cards.
>>716173158The other thing you need for PVP is skills, as many as you can possibly activate, that's where half of your points comes from.
>>716173252Only 3, seemed like not enough for pace chaser, my own gold ship beat her by 3 lengths.
>rush a rudolf career to see if I can get the special missions before the event expires
>got all minus the last 150 carats
Could be worse, at least the rush was exciting in a way.
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>>716173623It's not much, I hope extra tank works
>>7161681923 Speed (Preferably Kitasan and Sweep)
1 Stamina (I use Super Creek)
1 Strength (I use Hishi Amazon funny enough)
1 Wit (Fine Motion)
Get Kitasan, other speed, Hishi up to full and then chug the frendship trainings for whichever one becomes active, aim for around half and half balance with less emphasis on stamina compared to pace. Cards could be better since that's all I have but the general makeup is the same. Get 2-3 speed and 1 strength with specialty priority.
>>716173658Pretty sure Goldship alone can fill most of them
>bakushin music keeps playing
>go to jukebox to change music
>people can request songs
ohhhh... you mother fuckers like this shit?
should i reset my account if I have Fine motion and super creek but no KB? I can also just borrow one and save for the rerun?
>>716173734Ok so I won't feel bad yet cause I'm still a newb with shit parents
>>716174070Damn right I do. Until this bop gets added it's bakushin on repeat baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ZiWnM6kZY&pp=ygURdW1hIG11c3VtZSBjb25jZXI%3D
>>716174116whats the point of minmaxing this game? the pvp here is a joke
>>716173968Bakushin helped me finish the last few ones I had left, I basically did them all in 1 day. She is so great
>>716174209chasing bigger numbers
>>716174116yeah, can borrow for now
you got SRs to fill out the deck as well?
I think this oguri turned out pretty good for long. 841 stam + 2 heals means she should not run out of juice.
>>716174209pvp gives you carats that you can pull for waifus
>>716173729Affinity is based on the races the parent ran and if they align with your career. Most umas are either Sprinter-milers, Miler-mids or Mid-Longs, some can run from Mile to Long, meanwhile King covers the entire spectrum.
>>716174295post her 1* gut spark
>>716174209Apparently there's another PVP mode later, but in general having a solid PVP team = you get a consistent income of carats.
>>716174175https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgQtBcsv4qo
>>716174367At least let me enjoy her stats
MY GAAAAAAMES
MY HORSEEESSSSS
>>716174405>golshi feat. golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi, golshi and golshiit's.. peak....
>>716174508same, dw i guess
free carots later
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Please tell me it's a server issue and we're getting free carats
>>716174508>he pulled?>drop eet
>>716174295looks good. Gourmand is so much better than BofA
NOW ALL TOGETHER
KEEP RELOADING THE GAME
DON'T STOP
>>716174508>>716174565The one game where I get happy every time it goes down
>>716174629I can't help it
>>716174013As I understand you're going for Long, than your build is barely enough in stamina department if you get short (2500m) long races and might be not enough if you get longer (3200-3600m) long races
>>716174565Oh I did get kicked out, let's hope it stays down.
>>716174631I get happy any time any gacha goes down. I can play any time but servers shitting themselves means compensation.
>>716173968oh man I used Rudolf to complete that mission and another one she could also do, got the best ranking of all my careers from it somehow, she's awesome
>>716174508you will get the free carats and you will be happy
>>716174508BLUE ARCHIVE WON
BLUE ARCHIVE WON
BLUE ARCHIVE WON
>>716174508>>716174565I'm not having problems.
it's just the usual steam maintenance isn't it, unless mobile is also not working
>>716174910I'm on my phone so probably
>>716174910well Gabe better be giving us carots too then
>>716174508It's not just the game, all of steam is down
>>716174761nno no no NO NO NO NO NO!!!
>>716175019TOTAL GACHA DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!
>>716174761>>716175019PHONEFAGS WON
PHONEFAGS WON
PHONEFAGS WON
>>716175019COMPLETE WOODCHIPPER VICTORY
AAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
I SHOULD'VE LISTENED TO /V/ AND PLAY KINO SINGLE-PLAYER GAMES LIKE TROUBLESHOOTERS: ABANDONED CHILDREN
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>>716143605 (OP)>cygames: dont sexualize our horses!!!!!>also cygames:I can see her nude fucking ass
>>716175092Why did she do it?
I'm waiting for PETA to make a umamusume parody game where you pump them with steroids and turn them into Elmer's glue after they injure their leg while racing in the Kentucky Derby.
No way the earthquake predicted on /x/ actually hit Japan and Korea.
Now that every gacha on the planet has just ended service what will you do now?
I WANT TO LOOK AT MY HORSES
>>716175290peta is still a thing in the big 2025? Might be miss-remembering but I have some memory in the back of my head that they imploaded.
Game (Steam) is back up by the way
>>716175376what earthquake
Playing without BGM feels strange. It feels like playing a proper visual novel.
server's up, NOW I'll pull Kitasan
I refuse to pull for cards. That's anti-fun
IF YOUR SERVERS ARE UP ITS BECAUSE THE TRUMP ANIME BANN WENT LIVE TODAY
DEPENDING ON YOUR STATE YOU MAY BE FUCKED
>>716175414eh, maybe? They still show up in the news occasionally.
>>716174137You can use a guest 9 star parent, use this site
https://uma-global.pure-db.com/#/search
>>716175759>x2 ManhattanThat's pretty good desu
>>716175726But I thought Trump loved anime?
>>716158365Keep the account and borrow Kita until you MLB her. Stop try-harding and enjoy the game
>>716175759Heh, loser, I just got her.
>>716175912>Trump is a Charlfagembarassing
>>716175912trump just repeats the last thing he heard from one of his big donors or fox news
>>716175617Why are you mean to Digital?
Even the steam banner for the game thinks vodka is better lol
>>716176103YUP YUP daiwashitters lost
>allowed Gold Ship to become my favorite like a basic bitch
I'm so weak... I just couldn't help it she's too entertaining....
>>716159131Tamamo Cross is the best one IMO, but if we're talking about the one currently in the game then I'll go with Maruzensky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH1k317R4eM
What if I don't want to play the game every day
UOOOOH RUDOLFI MY LOSER DORK! WIFE
>>716157518your stamina bro?
>>716157080for some reason she reminds me of iono and activated some neurons in me
>>716176296aight cygames enough with dropping new banners and characters give me this first person POV right fucking now
>>716176321I made this post
>>716176296who is this eyepatched goddess
>>716168714ive watched S1-3 and the BNW OVA. Are the next steps RTT->New Beginning Movie->Cin Grey?
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>>716176103>>716176165We love our Vokda here
It's another Sweep Tosho gives Charming before debubt race run
>>716176321>>716176440Squiggle mouth? Infinity mouth? Very well done. Very good taste indeed? Triangle mouth? That's the patrician's choice right there.
>>716176476dumb fucking BITCH
>>716176578No. Gotta get at least one more, then you can stop. You'll be able to get a free Kita at anniversary.
I'm about to ditch special need's card because of that stupid fucking -10 energy event
>>716176458big g Tanino Gimlet, Vodka's father
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>follow some nip artist on twitter that does uma stuff
>suddenly the algorithm thinks I want constant western garbage on my face
>start getting shit like this
I fucking hate quaternaries so fucking much
>>716176683Doesn't she have like 3 other events that raise energy to make up for it?
>>716176683Despite MLB SSR I think she'll be my first cut too. Good Pacer recovery so she'll be back in for them, but I don't think she'll be there for every run
Her friendship raises much slower too
>>716176476MacQueen. YOU BAKA
>>716175414Peta exploded several times and the remnants went to Humane Society which is having the same issue with fanatics as Peta did including leadership.
>>716176748>Ryan>stay Gold>Fuji I don't think they know what ikeman means
>>716176748stop doomscrolling.
Does anyone else has a secret race like Maruzensky's radio nike sho? You get stats and 60 skills points for no reason
>>716176748At least 3 are dressed like dudes and one looks like a gay dude wearing hot pants
What are some umamusume TRVTHNVKES?
>>716148076I'm genuinely considering dropping money on the guaranteed SSR uma pack to get two 3*s...
>>716176683I feel that way about Fine Motion, especially since I don't have any limit breaks.
>>716176951Same but if i don't get a good one it'll feel like absolute shit
>>716176936Even if they were parent-child irl, a threesome with such an Uma pair isn't oyakodon.
>>716177204Wouldn't want to focus on stamina for this creature?
>>716177112>>716177053whats wrong horseshit muncher?
>>716176748my for you was the perfect blend of mecha and uma art before global, now I get that gross tumblr art of my horses on top of shitty memes
>>716176748TM Opera my beautiful man wife.
>>716177427funny how the goat is so easy to get because it's literally
>just win lolI've never seen Miss Perfect, so probably that one
>>716177523It suits her pretty well
>>716175676what the hell is that in the back
>>716176748>using twitter>using the For You shitYour fault.
>>716177314Hope to see you shitting yourself next thread too! I love seeing retarded little kids throwing a tantrum like anyone cares what they think
People weren't kidding about the super creek career, she's literally begging for it
>>716177736Which is why I refuse to do one with her, my heart is only for Winning Ticket.
>>716177736Should've seen him IRL.
>tried to set up the Oka Sho run mission with Meijro Ryan
>She can't run it because it conflicts with one of her story races
Oh well, this one wasn't going to take it anyways.
>>716177859I'm aware. I was thinking E metric, although she might be bigger.
Landscape or portrait for races?
>>716176904Not a single one looks like a dude you blind faggot
>>716177973I always use landscape so I can actually tell what the fuck is happening
>>716177973Landscape = IRL horse racing simulator
Portrait = Anime hype
>>716177691>tranny makes general on /v/ then complains when people point it outfuck off to /vg/ you horseshit eater
>>716177973I'm switching between them personally. I usually use landscape for longer races and when I want to see how my Uma is performing and if there's anything I should be doing better.
>>716177632>>using twitterYou don't want to follow all your favorite Japanese artists on their social media of choice?
>>716177973Portrait on my phone, landscape when I'm playing on desktop
>>716177973Landscape if you ever plan on watching horses IRL.
>>716177736this but top gun
>>716177789this but I do go for it
>>716177625It's a busty mime girl commission, forgot to move for the picture it seems
>>716177789>my heart is only for Winning Ticket.Stay away from my horse wife you fucker
>>716173353I tried rushing it on the last day. This game should say what seasons these races are on because I needed to ask here to even plan it, and then I had many shitty runs and only on the last one did the time ran out once I got on year 3 to finish the last 3(4?) races I need. DAMN IT ALL!
Fucking mood down events on RACE DAY should be fucking banished
>>716178218she's special bonded with us all in the hot springs, but you're the one who married her
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>just learned there's no male horses in uma musume's world
>they canonically are built for human men
pretty kino ngl
>>716178665Post the full one please
>>716169835I fucking hate this event because the very first time I got it, I had no idea how to do it and wasted two tries. WHY DOESN'T THE FUCKING GAME TELL YOU YOU NEED TO HOLD THE BUTTON DOWN
>>716178889https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8900410?q=order%3Ascore+umamusume+
>>716170218Alas, my favorite type of characters never get figures.
>>716169835>last few fall from claw
>>716178903I think we all went straight down on our first one
>>716178919Thanks anon, much appreciated