>1 player in the endgame hub right now

what went so wrong?

>>716218050 (OP)
everyone is prepping for project epoch (aka pochie)

>>716218050 (OP)
this happens every single time because in XIV the endgame hub is never the hub people use
but you wouldn't know that because you're just a tourist, probably new to the game even
or worse, you're either european or australian

>>716218050 (OP)
Won't having a futuristic settlement from another world cause narrative problems down the line as far as the other countries trying to fight over its rare minerals for short-term gain, like how crackheads steal catalytic converter for platinum to sell?

>>716218050 (OP)
They are all on Balmung - Uldah. Literally every single NA player parks their character there.

>>716218050 (OP)
Oh my god.... Is that...
AN EMPTY ROOM???
Aaaaiiiieeee save me Niggerman!!!!
So much negative aura

6 for me in solution 9
12 in tuliyollal
15 if we count the tuliyollal inn room
11 in phantom village
71 in my OC instance
context: EU, 2:34PM on a weekday

>>716218567
Probably. I could see some conflicts arising over Everkeep itself.
Beyond that, no. Neo-Alexandria hoarded all of the electrope that there was/that remained, so that's it.

>>716218050 (OP)
why would anybody play a fucking MMORPG in the year 2025

What's the best melee job to play at over 100 ms latency?
Been waiting for alliance raid roulette for 20 mins btw

They're all in Orgrimmar waiting for their ques to pop.

>>716218567
>XIV
>making sense, ever
wrong game to start worrying about that now

>>716220676

Dalamud plugin and noclippy, then play the job that appeals to you most aesthetically. All the melee jobs are highly competitive with each other.

>>716220676
probably Reaper? You don't have too many double weaves. That or Dragoon, but the burst might be too annoying to deal with at that latency.

I'd say just accept your limitations and play BLM

>>716220676
Reaper. Maybe Samurai.
Viper is too ADHD mode, Ninja I expect similarly of (I don't play it), Dragoon got a bit of burstiness pruned, but it still definitely has plenty of double weaving during its burst.

>>716221295
outside of bursts Ninja has a pretty tame rotation, but the ninjutsu would be too frustrating to engage with at high latency

>>716221241
>>716221295
>>716221517

It's actually monk. It's almost entirely gcd based and gets by with single weaves perfectly fine.

>>716221663
sure, but their gcd is sped up so much that their single weaves can feel like doubles at 100+ms

>>716221123
please stop recommending 3rd party mods, they're unapproved and not allowed per the ToS

>>716218345
literally false, i remember stormblood and shadowbringer being full of people on the end game area

met a launch xi and 1.0 player today
they still love the game
this goes against the narrative????

>>716221742
Yeah. Monks feels pretty speedy to me, still.

>>716221896
I'm happy for them.
To be fair, I'm weirded out by any self-confessed 1.0 veteran who thinks Dawntrail is unprecedentedly bad and finally caused them to unsub, anyway.
Less so for avid XI players.

>>716221742

GCD:s buffer though, so high ping doesn't matter. The issue with high ping is ogcd:s since you can't start a new animation before you get confirmation from the server that your last action is finished. A 2 second gcd cooldown is more than plenty for that. As long as you don't need to double weave, ping really isn't an issue.

>>716221295
>>716221663
vpr and mnk share the same gcd speed if i'm not mistaken
>>716222084
this gamer is just doing relics
first mmo was ultima online then played 11 and 14 on launch
turns out just doing your thing and what you like is enough for the game to be appealing and not a massive failure because lmao dead game narrative

>>716222268
>this gamer is just doing relics
old ones or dt ones?
>first mmo was ultima online then played 11 and 14 on launch
surprising that he likes such different styles of mmos. i am used to people going "NO THIS IS THE ONLY WAY AN MMO SHOULD BE"
>turns out just doing your thing and what you like is enough for the game to be appealing and not a massive failure because lmao dead game narrative
heard a lot of people say that a break from the game (not playing it as a forevergame) helped them. demolition being on a break for... what? 9 months? probably was a good thing in that sense

>>716222397
new and old relics, doing the blm arr one and needs the seals but also getting new tomes for the current ones, this was in an underkeep run

>>716222498
Based. I don't really get many old timers in my dungeon runs. Last time I had a chat in an expert roulette was with a group that just wanted Yuweyawata glam for their tank friend.

>>716222268

Yeah. I believe VPR actually has a bunch of double weaves in their rotation though, so they care more about ping than monk.

>>716223057
it's double weaves but it's weird because you get like 2.5s gcd between them or 3s gcd
i play on high ping and the double weaving isn't as responsive as other jobs but i think it has more to do with the order of ogcds being enforced, can double weave just fine in drk drg and nin but on viper there's this weird delay when pressing the lit up ogcd
>>716223040
yeah i'm glad i saw this tank talking on their own and decided to ask more questions, pretty cool guy, old mmo enjoyer and also friendly? that's rare

>>716223219
>yeah i'm glad i saw this tank talking on their own and decided to ask more questions, pretty cool guy, old mmo enjoyer and also friendly? that's rare
Most people in my experience are friendly, but a chat has to start in the first place. Most groups is just the usual "hi o/" "ggty bye".
Sometimes, it's a random pun, sometimes it's remarking on something a person has glammed, or they make an offhand comment and it just turns into a chat. It's nice.

>>716221823
why lie on the internet?

>>716222268
Maybe I'd feel more inclined to do old relics for completionism's sake if I could store them in a nice way. Having to go to the vendor to buy replicas, changing glam plate and everything is such a hassle
Dresser and plates being limited is unironically one of the game's biggest weaknesses. They need to sort that shit out

>>716221896
>they still love the game
I love the game still, I'm just not deluded enough to tell myself everything is fine right now.

>>716223219

Yeah, I know what you refer to. I thinknit's because the ogcd action has to "unlock", and this add a bit of latency sensitivity to VPR. I notice the same feel on the other ogcd actions that unlock with another ability press (no mercy->sonic break for instance).

>>716223408
He didn't lie. He saw it in a dream where he knew the game even existed back then and imagined himself playing it before it was popular. Thus making him the coolest kid in the entire middle school.

>>716223538

Not him, but I genuinly don't get what people complain about lmao. I feel like people have been hit by some weird mass hysteria.

It sure as hell isn't the jobs or battle content, those are largely unchanged since 7.0 and largely well recieved for .1 and .2.

>>716223710
The story was not entertaining, Wuk was grating, all the jobs are feeling like the same thing, there's nothing to do in the world outside of the cities if you aren't doing fates or a hunt, it's just boring.

>>716223710
>those are largely unchanged since 7.0
They're unchanged since 5.0, and that's the issue

>>716218345
Huh? back in HW people used to have dedicated hangout spots where they would afk with their friends in Idyllshire, even in Stormblood there was a lot of people hanging out in Rhalgr's reach. Shadowbringers was more dead, but there were plenty of bots going ham on scrip turn ins in Eulmore even if there werent many real players. This screenshot looks so dead there's not even bots left.

>>716223710
>I feel like people have been hit by some weird mass hysteria.
XIV's community is overly neurotic. That means that when the consensus is that the game is good, you drowned in overwhelming, stifling praise.
And when the consensus is that the game is bad? Well, the opposite.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. I find the melodrama a little boring and tiresome, so I just stopped paying attention to it for the most part.

Sex with Gaia's mouth.

>>716218050 (OP)
Nobody hangs out in the current hub after the first couple months. The starting cities is where everyone defaults to as the main hang spots.

>>716223710
Do you actually play the game?
>Jobs have been harmonised to the point it's just different animation
>Only genuine new thing we've had is Island Sanctuary
>Housing is still a shitshow
>Story has gone off the rails
>Patch cycle is 4 months and content has reduced greatly from 4 years ago

The issue is that the game isn't evolving, they don't doing anything new.
If this is your first xpac you're probably loving it, everything is new if you've been playing for a few years it's just
>Isn't this just what we got last time?

>>716218345
Reach was populated all the time. Peopled used to flex their mounts in endgame hubs, something that hasnt happened since SHB

>>716224202
They do after every new patch, but as the patch gets older, fewer people go to S9.
I don't think there's much of a reason to be there anyway other than the tome vendors.

>>716224304
bot type post

>>716224418
You got nothing huh?

>>716224315
Not allowing mounts in the endgame cities is so fucking bad, I don't get why they changed that

Solution 9 is going to age very badly because it has huge open areas with nothing in them, as they are designed to have lots of NPCs in the cutscenes.
Not to mention that it doesn't have a proper day and night cycle.

>>716224709
I won't be surprised if they end up making solution 9 go dark like living memory when you make it past 7.3 in the story

>>716224648
For the sake of spectators
>Jobs have been harmonised to the point it's just different animation
You're saying that if I know how to play Dragoon, I can switch to Ninja, Samurai and Viper without any extra learning experience and do just as well?
>Only genuine new thing we've had is Island Sanctuary
Subjective as it depends entirely on what you consider "new". But also immaterial since the same applies to pretty much all MMOs.
>Housing is still a shitshow
Most bitching about the housing system is performative. Before DT, plenty of people scoffed at the idea of having a house because it was dressup game shit that had no interaction with the actual game and was a pain in the ass to get. Now, everyone pretends they have had a house for a decade.
>Story has gone off the rails
7.0brained
>Patch cycle is 4 months and content has reduced greatly from 4 years ago
There is more content than in both Shadowbringers and Endwalker.

>>716223567
yeah it has to be that
uncoiled fury is 3s gcd with the buff and coils are 2.55s gcd
but the ogcd takes so long to process and i think it has to be because of that unlock which in the case of viper i guess it changes depending on the ogcd order
ninja is clearly smoother because it doesn't really have follow ups that depend on ogcds, dokumori gives you 50 gauge which is what you need for bunshin but it doesn't unlock bunshin so to say
ping is 118 and i'm using xivalex
https://files.catbox.moe/in90nb.webm viper
https://files.catbox.moe/vhcm4t.webm ninja

i learned how to crop the webm halfway through
>>716220676
so to answer which melee or job is better with ping i think it'd just depend on having noclippy or alex and then picking one where the ogcds don't "unlock" that is to say they're independent of the order of ogcds you press
drk, pld, war, sge, whm, maybe ast because you don't need to use them immediately, nin, drg for the same reason as ast, rpr, mnk and not sure about sam, all casters, brd has some delay in pitch perfect but mch has no issues with checkmate and double check as long as you alternate them, dnc feels clunky and i'm not sure if that's just dnc

>>716224671
Because they made Eulmore which was mostly indoor.
And then they just never went back for some reason.

>>716224849
>You're saying that if I know how to play Dragoon, I can switch to Ninja, Samurai and Viper without any extra learning experience and do just as well?
nta but it depends on what you know, not giving that retard ammo to use but i don't think they've been harmonised, not even the tanks which people just like to spam "loool 90s cd 120s cd" but they have different usages and optimizing that is the cool part, something that anon will never know

>>716223710
Basically the new generation of players that came during Covid (and is also disproportionately trans cause of online grooming) is hyper sensitive and emotional and has to complain on social media every day and every hour.
And they went through 10 years of released content in a year or two and is flabbergasted it’s not a constant NEW thing every two weeks. Actual rotted brains devoid of dopamine.

>>716219048
Makes sense I still don’t get why they do make it so all zones don’t have mounting tho they are big enough

>>716226190
Well, my point is more that if jobs are identical, you could swap between them at any point without any extra work and do just as well.
This hasn't been my experience. For MNK, I needed to play differently than DRG. VPR I haven't tried myself, but from what I've seen, it's also different.
I don't mind people complaining that there are a lot of similarities, but when you say identical, you either admit it's pure hyperbole, or you're likely to get told you're a retard if you are 100% earnestly trying to state that they are.

I said in a previous thread what they need to do is add subjobs usable in all prior content to just spice things up. Current raids and ultimates are still the “balanced” no subjobs allowed. But after seeing how field Ops let us do wacky shit, why not for old roulettes?
They need their “oh yeah we could do this” moment like they had with PvP and separating the move sets.

>>716227050
I got a better suggestion and that’s remove everything above extremes

>>716218050 (OP)
>The end game hub of this Final Fantasy game looks like a shitty hotel lobby in Asia

Oh great here comes the fake final fantasy fans who will make some dumb ass argument that final fantasy games aren’t high tech then try to debate you when you call him a know nothing retard.

>>716218050 (OP)
Dawntrail being the shittiest expansion ever is so funny

>>716226597
no yeah i agree
some of the theory behind maximizing the damage is the same but jobs really don't play the same no matter how you put it

>>716227672
I don’t mind the Solution 9 stuff being from another shard. I dislike the forced FF9 member berries. Literally right after the FF4 member berries in 6.1-6.5, completely disregarding that it already did FF3 member berries.

>>716227050
I can see subjobs becoming a thing in 8.0 since they said they don't necessarily wanna go beyond level 100 and would have to make a new system for character progression.
Subjobs (or some approximation) would be a good way to make it happen. How in depth would it be? Idk.

>>716218050 (OP)
>1 player in the endgame hub right now

>>716227797
the story content sucks for sure, but the battle content is better than ever

>>716218567
No because it's not pre-Shadowbringers anymore and they moved on from fantasy politics, now each expansion story is about you learning the story of some dead ancient wizard AI because Shadowbringers was so popular.

>>716227363
Your Asian hotels are really high tech, wtf.

>>716227937
>but the battle content is better than ever
No it isn't. It was actually worse. Not only are the classes still boring as shit, but combat seems even more giffed and boss fights are literally just DDR fights to the extreme. I use to meme about it in earlier expansions but it has reached a very unfortunate end where that's all boss fights are to where it's not even fun. Moving around is not about combat at all. It just feels like cinematic dances.

FF14 can learn a lot from WoW's combat system.

>>716227937
You're right by the way.

>>716228048
as a battle content enjoyer myself, i think you're extremely stupid, savagely stupid and ultimately stupid
this is either a troll ragebait post or you're genuinely retarded
>>716227937
this anon is right

>>716228147
>as a battle content enjoyer myself
No you're not. You're just justifying your viera tranny erping activities. FF14 is second life. Just accept your degeneracy.

>>716228352
no argument + nice projection
hold that L lil bro

>>716228386
>not denying it

lol

>>716227908
FFXIV is like 80% that anon it’s a theme park mmo

>>716228443
i can deny it and then you'll just sperg out about something, i have played this game more than you and i've done more than you
erp? not even once, my night are doing 3-4 hunts in monster hunter rise or gu then switching to ff do savage/extreme or ults when it's an ult season
i want to clear the current savage as every role and i hope we don't get an ultimate in 7.3

>cities are getting bigger
>NPC density stays the same
graphics update my ass

>>716228668
>have played this game more than you
yes, Im sure you love your nightclubs

>>716228147
Anon please you know that post was bait.

>>716228752
FF14 monster/ wildlife density is so fucking basic. All the enemies just being spaced out from each other feels like a fucking themepark.

>>716228752
thats a console problem. they have weak cpus. ps4 is PRE-RYZEN apu.

>>716227908
Really? I don't think it's that bad this go around.
6.x was pretty bad as a lot of it was almost 1:1. The IX stuff in DT feels mild by comparison.

>>716228838
You're right, anon. Let's go enjoy a nice relaxation in the housing district. I heard they're doing a twitch nightclub again tonight.

>>716218050 (OP)
Now show the other instances

>>716218050 (OP)
>The only player is a femra with casual streetwear+Ultimate lightstick
grim

>>716229015
dynamis screenshot
it doesn't count

>>716228958
Solution 9 has no instances at this point.
It's just an endgame hub with very reason to stay there because it's only relevant for a few vendors, which are "go in and go out", so if people are in Solution 9, it's usually because they want to be.

>>716229015
Well they are the biggest whores and most basic of bitches

>>716228862
it is a themepark though?

>>716218050 (OP)
Probably because of the state of the game.
>>716221896
It's possible for people to have shit taste.
>>716228048
>FF14 can learn a lot from WoW's combat system.
No. XIV did everything better before but people complained it was "too punishing" and "too complex" so they dumbed it down for retards like you so the game is in the shit state it is now. Doesn't help that DT was fucking awful and they're making shit decisions with patch cycles. I started at the beginning of 2015, have been 99th percentile regardless of job in all raids I've done, and cleared ultimates multiple times. I've unsubbed a few times here and there. I'm not resubbing again though.

>>716228862
shame because the benchmark had literal herds run around

I idle in Ishgard or Kugane and when the day or night change happens I play along with the music on bard

>>716229215
>10k hours
>nothing to show for it
grim

>>716228602
I’d argue it was 20% at the start. Before they introduced the “13 shards” when they started going full retard as expansions came.
It started with ARR/HW final bosses being FF7 related (Ultima Weapon and Knights of the Round). Then Omega went straight hands on with it. And Stormblood is when they also started in “fantasy IRL” locations trend once they started covering areas not known in 1.0. Something I dislike too because it desaturated Tural.
Combine that with modern slop clothing, and deciding to kill off any 1.0 lore in EW (and literally kill off the Twelve) it’s just depressing.

>>716229215
>XIV did everything better before

>TP system
>2.5 gcd (still that to this day)
>1-2-3 combat where you can do the only fun thing in your class every 2 or so minutes
>cant even customize your class. (cross skills was a shitty implementation of what FF11 did)

No.

>>716228924
That’s the point. It’s all “DOOD ITS FF9 BUT DIFFERENT” felt like it was just a marketing hook to show off. No actual thought behind it.

>>716229553
So it should be more 1:1 FF9?

>No bro trust me I quit the game because it sucks I have this many hours in it I did everything this and that I was the best player ever and I quit
>...What do you mean you want proof?
>I-I quit I can't log in I can't show you that I did that just trust me!
>Game sucks and it's dead back in ARR I was 99'ing every fight... Wait what?

Ffxiv fags you must be lucky they are gone good lord these wow rats are so fucking stupid and unfunny
>t. osrs chad

>>716229496
>STILL parroting 2.5gcd
Jesus christ. Even back in ARR, this didn't matter and wasn't true for all jobs and it's not even true for all jobs today either. Not the mention the oGCD's and mechanics you're doing. Things WoW doesn't have or are poorly implemented.
>1-2-3 combat where you can do the only fun thing in your class every 2 or so minutes
Goes to show you didn't play from ARR-SB.
>TP and cross class
Never cared for either especially since I played MNK and if I was ever doing stuff with pf, I'd bottom out because people did shit dps and the fights would take too long.
>>716229323
I know
>>716229851
FFlogs didn't exist in ARR. Besides, I started after FCOB came out and most people were done with it.

>>716230137
I hope your community is smart enough to kick them out asap, OSRSbro. They're a swarm of locusts here to shit up your game and turn it into WoW 2.0.

>>716230238
tl;dr go kill yourself. combat is shit in xiv

>>716218875
>nobody: ...
>you LOOK ECELEB YOUTUBE MAN LOOK LOOK
You're obsessed. Kill yourself.

>>716230238
you claim
>have been 99th percentile regardless of job in all raids I've done
post logs
>cleared ultimates multiple times
post logs too
your hours don't mean shit and you "quit" so surely you aren't afraid of showing your character, unless it has your irl name

note that i also miss hw and sb combat but the game is what it is now, if it's better or not it doesn't matter because we simply can't go back and compare or have an alternative to it but i liked it for what it was and i like it for what it is
wow doesn't even cross my mind, that game is different and unlike ffxiv you can play the older version if you want but i still won't play it idgaf about wow nor do i care for it, i care for xiv

>>716230823
>i care for xiv

>>716223338
I think the length of XIVs dungeons combined with the roulette system is part of why you don't see much conversation in them. They're short enough that you don't have a lot of downtime to chat, but long enough that most players don't want to slow them down to talk, and on top of this most players are either spamming dungeons to level, or getting their dailies in, so clearing them with less fuss is always better.
Roulettes are great for making sure new players can complete required content but this comes at the detriment of encouraging social interaction compared to something like FFXI farm parties or grinding in Runescape

>>716231097
yeah lil bro everyone that likes the game goes to night clubs we know you don't have an argument

>>716231136
there's one more thing you didn't mention which is people that play on controllers, which might be more than half of the playerbase they sometimes don't even type at all
i 100% think that we'll see a shift in socializing and communication once they add the chat bubbles, they should have been in the game a long time ago but every mmo deserves to have it, if you go to an endgame hub or oc or any foray zone and you see people talking it's just reading a chat log, some players don't even have the chat window open to make the game look cleaner

>>716231152
Funny thing is I haven't gone to a nightclub or whatever once since I started playing the game.

>>716231553
me neither, if i'm idle in any city and i see someone try to tp away or switch worlds after advertising i just trade them to waste their time

>>716231152
You seem pretty bothered lol

>>716231630
Kek.

>>716218050 (OP)
YoshitPiss, Wuk and Kate.

>>716218050 (OP)
I went there to exchange my raid swords for a weapon last weel and one of the instances literallg had 6 people in it.

>>716218567
No because there is no more conflict allowed in XIV. Everyone is happy and peaceful all time and we even cured racism through the powers of friendship and understanding.

>>716231136
In fairness not being forced to interact with the XIV playerbase is one of the best aspects of the game.

>>716231431
>once they add the chat bubbles
They still haven't added them? Didn't they announce it ages ago?

>>716231431
>chat bubbles

Good thing I play on PC with dalamud that already added them through plugins

>>716232346
so do i but most people don't
>>716232268
before dawntrail but the implementation was never announced it was more like "yeah we'll work on it :)"

>>716232268
>They still haven't added them?
7.3

>>716232417
>most people don't
good. console fags deserve their humuliation

>>716226568
People being able to mount in Idyllshire was frying people's toaster PCs and PS3s and they never recovered from the trauma

>>716227937
Its absolutely not lol. FRU is hollow and easier than UWU during it's relevance, OC is the worst parts of Eureka and Bozja, Vanadiel does nothing exciting and will only get worse. Like come on dude, HW had more thought put into it.

holy shit you can tell that's bait and it's a bad one
this dude got his opinion from youtube comments

>>716232940
Myea.

>>716218567
FF14 doesn’t have a Sub-Saharan human race. And… ah fuck, they’re gonna make Meracydia that, aren’t they? Despite it supposed to be Miqote and dragons, it’s gonna have Wakana black shit isn’t it?

>>716218345
India was always packed with people though?

>>716221823
This is only true on expansion release or during the wow exodus period

>>716232940
right? Sapes aren't even worth responding to

>>716233181
Or during patch release.

>>716223946
There’s no reason to even go to the “current” scrip location because all of the vendors share the shop menu now.
And as a bot user (MMOMinion) you can tell it which one you want your bot to go to.
Only thing Solution Nine is worth going to now is for tomestone stuff.

>>716218345
>>716221823
On my server at least this was only true during ARR and HW. Once SB came out people stopped hanging out in Rhalgr's Reach in favor of the starting cities
Idyllshire steps in front of Rowena's was THE hangout spot.

>>716218050 (OP)
Fuck not being able to use mounts in one of the 2 main hubs, it let you in HW and SB, why did they chicken out in ShB?

>>716233054
Looked up some Meracydia lore
>After the end of the war, Meracydia was rendered a wasteland. Even after the fall of the Allagan Empire some regions remain uninhabitable, with reclusive populated areas that often attack any who approach.
I could’ve sworn the “New World” (before it was called Tural) had this same kind of backstory. And then suddenly before DT you’re told “oh trade is flourishing and they’re actually super nice”. That’s gonna happen again, isn’t it?

>>716218567
no, because the writers don't care anymore

>>716233571
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the New World's lore didn't change they just use to call the Dawnservant the Autarch.
Also they retconned how Mamool Ja talk. That did change.

>>716218567
No everyone gets along in Yoshida's XIV.

>>716221896
I'd love if if DT story was better and if they didn't fuck up OC, they nailed the system in Bozja, so, why fuck it up?

>your average mmo experience after grinding for 300 hours to hit max level on any game now
Kek

>>716233890
aside from duels and the dr/castrums entrance, what is wrong with OC in your opinion

>>716233862
Everyone getting along sacrificing souls to keep memories without form corporeal and/or sacrificing souls to turn others endless.
Fr fr.

>>716233054
The lore has always had hippos, witch doctors, Benben (Egyptian pyramid capstone), and it's unclear if it was the simulation by allagans or not but I think the hyur elezen and roegadyn worshippers of Sophia looked like her. Ie jet black skin. Obviously Sophia is more drow but you know what I mean. I'll check shortly

>>716230137
I feel for you, OSRSkun
especially seeing the OTK event they are doing...

>>716234286
they'll leave after that
they have no leverage in the community unlike ffxiv which had no e-celebs and then they all started sucking wow dick

>>716234286
They are doing WHAT?

I just started Occult Crescent stuff the other day and it's making me have a stroke
Why am I allowed to only chain mobs that are specifically 2 levels above mine?
And what if I'm playing with a friend who's like 1 level above me, we literally couldn't play together? What the hell, this is the 3rd instance like this SE has made and they learned nothing

>>716234648
>And what if I'm playing with a friend who's like 1 level above me, we literally couldn't play together?
You can sync.

>>716234648
you'll know which mobs you can chain because they'll have an icon over their head even after syncing
chaining is only good for gold farm

>>716234595
Sorry to inform you

>>716234816
I'm so sorry, OSRSbros....

>>716233571
I think you're misremembering. They weren't hermits like some of Meracydia was but rather what we knew is:
>Big empire
>Mamoolja empire
https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/post/150272837949/what-can-you-tell-us-about-the-new-world-i-always

There was never any animosity what I can see on a passing glance, and while updated with some DT era content the original post was in 2016 and you can date some of the info (say, the encyclopedia eorzea).

https://mirkemenagerie.tumblr.com/post/166918296354/what-do-we-know-about-meracydia-theres-very
for Meracydia, and as I mentioned:
Egyptian benben, witch doctor, primitive tribes, Meracydian chess, ten ponze diamond, jungles, hippo, kangaroo, miqo'te origin (goin be fucking retarded for miqo'te fuckboys to suddenly act like 'muh dik muddafukka'), Azem seems to be worshipped there (or the sun),

Funny thing is I like Africa/Egypt stuff but after DT I never want Meracydia done ever as a result.

>>716218345
You are insufferable, I am glad you play XIV so 99.999999% of people won't ever have to interact with you in that dead game.

I'm surprised more people didn't make a big deal out of the Mamool Ja basically saying they were LARPing as stupid brutish halfwits the entire time.

>>716235202
Dawntrail is so forgettable, I didnt care for any of the cultures we visited. It was that bad.

>>716233951
It doesn't take anywhere near 300 hours to level to 100 in XIV. You can level an alt job to 100 in a week if you want to, the game throws so much exp at you. The slow part is doing the msq, not because you don't get sufficient exp but because it's the longest visual novel ever made by human hands.

>>716230502
Meanwhile you fuckers were all enjoying your time watching them play through FFXIV.

>>716235459
i wanted them gone as soon as i knew they were in the game
i blame them for a lot of the current narrative regarding the game
they poisoned the well and there was nothing anyone could do to prevent it, no such thing as gatekeeping in modern gaming due to moderation

>>716235274
>I didnt care for any of the cultures we visited. It was that bad.
I was the opposite. I actively despised every single culture we visited and if there was an in game option for my WoL to genocide all of not-Brazil/not-Mexico I would take it.

>>716235459
Projection?

>>716235548
Moderation wasn't needed. FFXIV threads on /v/ were actively discussing streamers, FFXIV players were doing that "Welcome to Expansion" gathering, people dropping subs on no-name WoW streamers left and right, which caused their ego to inflate massively. In particular, I remember these threads being a second chatroom for Asmon's stream when he was doing Coils.

>>716235867
>FFXIV players were doing that "Welcome to Expansion" gathering
Ah yes, when XIV was le best game ever.

Every hub is empty except for Limsa. Going through ShadowNiggers was a depressing experience. All I could think of is how dead everything feels.

We need another calamity that makes it so nothing after 6.0 ever happened.

>>716235127
XIV has always had a weird cult fanbase, the game has gone to shit becuase players refuse to believe XIV is fallible.

>>716236174
So true because Dawntrail is the Shadowlands of XIV and completely ruined the world. We need another Dalamud and then they remake the game in a whole new engine and call it Final Fantasy XIV-2 so we can finally have non stagnant content and the world is saved from Yawntrail.

>>716218050 (OP)
Was this picture not taken at like 6am NA time or whats the deal? Why would there be people online on a Wednesday morning

>just finished 7.2
>dialogue sounds good and music timings are spot on
>no stupid pointless cutscenes and all the cutscenes feel expensive and well directed
>sphene is cute
Didnt expect much but Im kinda surprised 7.2 was actually good
And I like the endless sphene now with how the story is making her severely misguided yet have good intentions by saying her programming pushed for making everyone endless

>>716236740
NOOO YOU GO TO NIGHT CLUBS HATE THE GAME NOW NOW NOW

>>716236740
Yeah, Endless Sphene was basically just a bot version of real Sphene made to chase a single directive with single-minded fervor.
>Didnt expect much but Im kinda surprised 7.2 was actually good
It's a step up, especially since 7.1 was in some ways worse than 7.0 what with the Koana nonsense.
Now we're just in the waiting room to see if 7.3 is back to 7.0, or more of 7.2.

>>716235709
Uninstallafel?

Is Hildebrand your WoL's friend, in character?

>>716237007
The guy who was not a 4chan poster and also ran off to play WoW?

>>716234934
We wuz kangs n shit.
It really is tiring that somehow blacks think “Africa” just means everything is pitch black hoodlum.

>>716218142
i'm not replaying WoW for the 100th time, tranny.

>>716236740
Real Sphene and Otis are the only parts of DT that haven't sucked and they murdered the latter.

>>716237107
>Pretending as if Uninstallafel wasn't all over FFXIV threads during the exodus

>>716237753
And?

>>716235867
Those were wowfags bro, you see that stop killing games guy get like a million threads when he let people die in a dungeon or some gay drama shit

I still love xiv

>>716237984
I'm happy for you. :)

Didn't feel like coming back for this expansion, and with the way things are going I don't even know if there will be another expansion.

>the combat content is great
>best it ever was
Point at what is great. While you are at it, explain why it doesn't manage to retain players.

>>716238045
You've said this the last 6 threads or so

>>716238134
and I'll do it again!
NTA tho

>>716235202
That's so far down the list of all the shit DT does that it's not surprising no one really cared.

>>716237787
Concession accepted.
>>716237927
WoWfags were talking about streamers reaching highpoints in the story? WoW streamers were sitting around for "Welcome to [Expansion] gatherings? WoW players were donating to Wow streamers while they were playing FFXIV? That's simply nonsensical anon.

>>716238408
Yes.

If they don’t have Real Queen Bean Speen be with us it’ll be lame. A lot of it is setup that she doesn’t need to watch over Alexandria as it’s not the kingdom she knows anymore and literally everyone she knew is dead.
I have a feeling what’ll happen is she’ll reboot the Sphene AI to help assist people (with restrictions so she doesn’t do a MechaHitlerGrok).
Honestly though, the whole thing with Wuk and Little Gooj basically taking over leadership just felt so weird. Like it was a reverse colonialism fantasy of the writer’s and like NOBODY questioned it in S9. “Oh our king and queen are dead and little guy has robot admin control? Ok.”

>>716238442
Astronomical levels of cope right there.

>>716237028
Yes

>>716238067
You dont play the game, so why do you care?

>>716238621
I liked the concept of the Sphene AI taking protection of the kingdom to the absolute extreme.

>>716237462
>ff14
>trannie
lmao
keep using those wittle mods that you can't play without because your character doesn't look exactly like how you picture yourself.

>>716238839
Explain where the combat improved so much? Show me where making shit more 'stressful' and hard for players made it better for a huge sway of the playerbase.

>>716238621
I think Sphene is just as bad as Wuk or Zero in the narrative. Classical Hiroi slop.

>I think
you don't

>>716239051
You're moving goalposts. The game is good to those that play, nobody wants to entertain you eceleb doomsayers anymore

>>716238621
>If they don’t have Real Queen Bean Speen be with us it’ll be lame. A lot of it is setup that she doesn’t need to watch over Alexandria as it’s not the kingdom she knows anymore and literally everyone she knew is dead.
The problem is that there's basically no one else left to rule over Alexandria.
Rebooting Endless Sphene to rule again would go against the entire story's themes and plot, Lil Mooj cannot rule alone, and even the writers came to their senses and realised how stupid of an idea WL becoming regent is.
And there aren't any other established characters that could be trusted to rule the place.

>>716234816
wtf is OTK?

>>716239291
>The game is good to those that play, nobody wants to entertain you eceleb doomsayers anymore
The really funny part is that with the way combat is now, it is exactly good to those eceleb faggots and no one else.

>>716239348
Eceleb org started by Asmongold, but he left it

>>716239438
Fuck. I usually go back to OSRS around october every year for a month or two so hopefully these fags piss off

>>716239339
I mean... Sphene is going to become ruler of Alexandria again, isn't that kind of obvious? The whole 'I am not needed' spiel is so she won't return and proclaim she is the real one right away and basically kill any drama the story tries to build.

In the end, Sphene and Wuk will become the Lyse of their respective countries.

>1 player in the endgame hub right now
YEAH, ME!

DAWNTRAIL FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!

>>716239763
how do you make webms look good

>>716239809
NTA, but it was something called Webm Converter for Lazys

>>716239763
Wait a second there is a car behind you LIAR

>>716239876
yeah i've got that but i tried making a webm and it looked like shit

/ourguy/ just announced the game is dead, pack up

>>716239986

>>716239570
She's gonna endorse Gulool Ja and then leave to hang out with Wuk Lamat in Tural

So like what are those floating orbs in the sky supposed to be in the dead ends and in the void parts, just floating masses of bad aether?

>decide to try to get into the game with the release of Dawntrail
>choose one of the new player worlds
>start in Rabanastre
>it's filled with people on alts in underwear advertising their sexual RP guilds
>nobody else is talking or will talk and it's just a small stream of genuine newbies speedrunning the shitty MSQ to get to... ?
Still trying to figure out what the fuck the point of this game or MMOs like this in general is. It's just Diablo with a monthly fee and worse balancing, insofar as I can tell. Do 100 hours of shit so you can farm a raid for 200 hours to get a piece of equipment you can wear while you AFK around 50,000 other people who have the same piece of equipment.

>>716240123
polluted/corrupted aether yeah. the grebuloffs poisoned their environment after they conquered the world

too much text for a falseflag

Today I have reached max level with all the phantom jobs.

OC is the worst iteration of the foray content, FT being too hard has been a absolute catastrophe, the CEs hit too hard and punish DPS/Healer players too much, the treasure chest loot table is fucked and putting old foray content in it is fucking awful. The story is shit, every boss is just a automaton and doesn't have a shred of character like some of the Bozja bosses had. Pots and bunnies are disappointing, phantom jobs are okay but Freelancer is a fucking nothingburger.

4/10 I want my money back.

>>716238796
i'm sorry you feel that way

>>716240123
holes in the ozone layer

>>716240169
Join or make an FC with other sprouts

>>716240245
we should make them bigger

>>716239894
you are being lied to at ALL times even by people you already trust, this is how the world works
I'm just here to remind you

>>716239964
That webm barely has any movement and it's very short, so you can make it high resolution and high fidelity with low bitrate to fit it in 4MB.
If you try to webmize combat effects or movement in general then you've got to compromise duration and resolution if you want it to not look like shit.

>>716240362
answer me >>716239809

>>716240231
>the CEs hit too hard
lol

>>716239964
Hmm. I’ve made my webms with either OBS recordings or ShareX snippets. Thought it could be better. I think some add filters to brighten it since noise in dark scenes can be an issue.

>>716240231
i prefer South Horn over Hydatos. the faster pace of the FATEs/CEs is better than having to use third party tools to track what fate has spawned. phantom jobs are far above logos actions and a small improvement over forgotten actions

gold currency is a bit too hard to get imho

>>716240441
>>716240467
settings?

Even Pagos was better than Occult Crescent.
This game is garbage.

>>716240231
I feel they had a good thing going with Bozja, but JP vastly preferred Eureka, so that is what they went with.

>>716240473
correct
>>716240535
wrong

>>716240521
For me (middie licking webm) defaults on either. All I did for the converter is to resize the width and height size.

>>716240446
there's literally software just called "4chan webm maker" that you dump a file into, give it a resolution, and it will output it to fit the size limit on 4chan

obviously a longer/larger resolution video will be crunched, but just fuck around with it and figure it out

>>716240473
I leveled half of the Phantom jobs and haven't farmed gold yet. How hard is it?

>>716227937
No it's not, it's pretty shit and boring.

>>716227937
What is better?

>>716237028
I play a male Highlander so it really feels like I fit in perfectly with the Hilidbrand shit. I always imagine something like Godbert calling the WoL the son he never had and then specifying that he did have a son who is also like the son he never had.

>>716240654
>The battle content is so good bro
>That's why we Streamers who all think it's amazing are not playing FF14 but playing WoW and Terra!

>>716240654
i'd equate it to leveling in eureka prenerf. phantom jobs can make it much faster. there's only 1-2 designated 'camps' per group size is my main gripe

>>716218050 (OP)
play on a more populated server then

>>716240231
>>716240598
The characters and storylines happening in Bozja made me a huge fan of it. But yeah, it got completely forsaken and OV is soulless compared to it. Prettier sure, but it’s all so vacant.
I still need to set up time to sign up for FT. Been busy IRL and what’s silly is there’s literally no normal mode to knock out in casual instance.
Literally all you can do is just CEs

ro kuwaritee beito

>>716240875
>I still need to set up time to sign up for FT.
It is so fucking tiresome that you have to engage with some discord troonery to apply for a spot in FT that you might or might not get after waiting for several hours. I think not delivering a normal mode was a huge blunder. Scratch that, not delivering a normal, but instead doing the hard version AND going on stream saying 'muh cost' was the bigger blunder.

Occult Crescent should have
>duels like Bozja
>dragons or some other sleeping enemy you have to be careful around like Eureka
>more dangerous and hard to navigate terrain
>rare item drops with low rates like cassie/crab

>>716241012
OC is already more dangerous to traverse than Pagos anon

I like that I can see other people using their phantom jobs.
I feel like the only person that remembers getting people to use their lost actions was like pulling teeth.

>>716241121
them not costing resources past unlocking them is the reason for that. and no one is using samurai and those individuals who aren't gonna spend money are not gonna be chemists anyway

>>716241121
Phantom jobs were smart that it just uses the duty action buttons so it’s on by default. Logos and Lost actions required effort to setup and thinking for more than five seconds.

>>716240460
people being forced to play tank because they get two tapped is absolutely an issue. and no
>git gud
is not the solution. people want to mindlessly farm OC, there is no need to make every single encounter needlessly stressful

>>716241297
ahem
git gud

>Re-watching the Noclip documentary of FFXIV fall and rise
>Yoshida says about resources and cost that it shouldn't matter how much they spend even if it's in the millions, the content must be delivered and the players have to trust and feel they are being valued

I want that Yoshida back, he seemed like a cool guy.

>>716241297
let me suggest a rewording:

>it needs to be more rewarding to play a dps in CEs as everyone is just being warriors so they don't have to do mechanics

>>716218050 (OP)
Where do they all go?

>>716241467
Other MMOs

>>716218050 (OP)
>what went so wrong?
isnt the game like 20 years old?
who the fuck even plays something this long

>>716218050 (OP)
If you want to doompost, use this. Losing people owning houses in such a huge chunk is absolutely an issue.

>>716241572
It's over.

>>716241407
That’s why I made warrior my first choice for everything. Can survive multiple mechanics, self sustain, aggro for credit, can mass pull mobs for solo farms. Just the easiest road lol.

>https://www.pcgamesn.com/final-fantasy-xiv/yoshida-stress-free
>Final Fantasy 14 director Naoki Yoshida says he regrets making the MMO so stress-free, adding that he wants to introduce more challenge.
Has this experiment succeeded? I think not. Catering to raid troons is never the right thing to do.

>>716241119
The problem with the danger in OC is that it's completely avoidable unless you get the cave spawn for the forked tower support mob.
Calamity Now should've spawned inside the big structure and you should have to navigate around the level 27s to get to it and they should've put another CE in the pudding room or something.

>>716241745
he was talking about myths of the realm, in which most of the bosses are dungeon bosses at absolute hardest

dawntrail's trials and normal raids are all an improvement. the fact that honey b lovely still wracks up kills is great

>>716241815
and the dragons can be avoided by walking for 5 seconds. can't do that in the dangerous spots of OC

>>716241836
>"As we continue to operate FF14, we have tried to make it more comfortable and stress-free for players to enjoy, but when I think back on the past ten years, I think we may have gone a bit too far in that regard."
Did you even read?
>the fact that honey b lovely still wracks up kills is great
I see one of *those* players.

>>716241745
>people bitch everything is too braindead in EW
>makes it slightly more difficult
>people bitch everything is too stressful
kekypoo

>>716241915
neither thing you said refutes or contests anything i said at all

>>716241962
>people* bitch everything is too braindead in EW
*raider/content creators

>>716242023
XD

>>716221782
fix the stalking shit via mods by banning mods entirely, or don't and accept that they will always be there. there is no in-between, because they're too incompetent to ever reach one.

>>716242150
how about the mentally ill just get banned

>finally join discord to do forked tower
>have to pledge allegiance to a mental illness before I'm allowed in
Wtf?

>>716242224
are we gonna have to hire a therapist then

>>716242284
Chuds are not allowed in XIV

>>716237462
>played wow 99 times
youre just as bad as them you delusional faggot

>>716242150
>fix the stalking shit via mods by banning mods entirely
even if they ban mods unilaterally that data will be still reaching the client, it'll just be read directly from memory instead. if you're sending the fucking data to the client, expect it to be read.

>>716218050 (OP)
>Kill gods
>Destroy main antagonist faction completely
>Destroy any interesting mystery in the cosmology of the world
>Shitty patch msq
>Make relics just a tome weapon
>Make it the most lonely atomized non-mmo expansion with no content at all
>Straight afterwards: dawntrail, the worst expansion in the whole game in terms of story
Endwalker and Dawntrail killed my interest in the story and world.
I took a few months break and came back just to realize I don't give a single shit about anything in the game anymore, and this comes from a guy who would do literally everything in the game because I liked the world so much.
What a fucking waste.

>>716242284
why do you think its the least popular exploratory content to date

>>716242475
Gives them a blank slate though, which I'm not sure is a good thing

>>716230626
Nobody: ...
You: >nobody: ... >you LOOK E--
Will Smith: SYKE! Dis nigga thought lmao
Baby Yoda: *dabs*
Will Ferrel: Yep, that just happened.

>>716242898
AYO WILL SMITH???

>>716218050 (OP)
I got bored of the gameplay.

>play healer favourite role
>glarebroil
>maybe try harder stuff
>Savage
>glarebroil harder
>Ultimate
>glarebroil hardest

I have no interest in playing tank or dps, tried them both

if they want to save this game they need more smaller scale in between shit
but considering how they couldnt even do a halloween map in time, previously, i question their ability to do anything interesting

>>716243243
DPS and Tank make me turn my brain off.

>>716242679
In theory a blank slate isn't a bad thing. There's still not only more of the world beyond Eorzea, Orthard, Ilsabard and Tural to explore, but the Shards were ripe for exploration; some people hate that we did it in Shadowbringers or that it would make ShB less unique if we did it again and so forth, but the shards existed as a plot point way sooner and ShB merely put it on the table. Whether you continue the WoL's story directly, or shift things around, the world and more is literally your oyster.

Then Daichi Hiroi slathered his theater kid cock over everything shitting and pissing himself for a stamp rally charade.

Anyone planning to CC now that you can duo queue in 7.3?

i like Athena

>>716243362
>duo queue
>in a game where teams are 5v5
?

>>716243506
me in front of the microwave heating my frozen Salesbury steak meal am I right fellas?

>>716243506
Valens is a better unrepentant one-dimensional villain.

I'm a new player. Currently on Heavensward post-game and doing the HW relic weapon.

When does the game get bad? I heard stromblood was worse

>>716243506
me too, it was refreshing to have a truly irredeemable villain for a change

>>716243859
stormblood's msq isn't as good as heavensward's is all

>>716243859
when you run out of shit to do
or when you come to the realization that every expansion after stormblood is just regurgitating the same shit over and over, content-wise

>>716243327
Theatre kids are unironically responsible for the past +10 years of disastrous culture in media and I am not exaggerating.

>>716243859
6.1. So you have 3.x you are on, 4.0 (SB), 5.0 (SHB), 6.0 (END). Then it gets bad.

>>716243859
Rule of thumb: When one of these 3 cats is part of the greater story, the MSQ is generally enjoyable. If she isn't the MSQ is dogwater.

>>716243859
Stormblood 4.0 is pretty horrid but the patches are good.

>>716243859
Heavensward was the best MSQ, it's all downhill from here, don't listen to ShBfags and EWtrannies.

>>716243859
how did you like ARR and HW so far? How would you rate them?

>>716244042
i want to fuck Y'shtola while she wears her HW Armor

>>716244042
I want to refute this, but I can't remember a single time the MSQ is bad when she is around. Even DT get's better once she is more involved.

>>716244042
The highschool arc
The College slut arc
The hagmaxing arc

>>716244042
Go back to your gachashit.

>>716244042
need cat sex

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ljCdhmBGc

>>716244042
shtola in slut glam when

>>716242284
>Bear Pride on top of mental disorders and bi and asexual

>>716244446
anytime if you just use anam or whatever the kids use nowadays

>>716244616
The BG3 enthusiasts deserve some representation too.

>>716244446
She does have the skimpiest bikini in game.

>>716242284
is there a straight flag?

>>716244817
you don't get to have pride in that

>>716244817
No but they have Wuk pride

>>716244718
Underrated

>>716242284
Choose aesexual and complain when anyone brings up anything remotely sexual and claim you see it all as offensive and your ultimate goal is a world with NO sex or sexuality of any kind.

>>716244862
Makes you wonder who made it so

>>716218345
>t. hasn't actually played the game for more than a year
Way to out yourself, retard.

>>716245030
>Progress Flag

>>716234816
Lmao. This is so funny to see. I feel sorry for OSRS players because WoWfaggots are actually the fucking worst, XIV might be dead now but at least it's a lot more bearable than when these retards were around.

>>716230137
I’m thankful everyday less and less of them leave the game, legitimately worst players

>>716245126
It's always the same people. Hitler burned the fuck out of the transgender center in Germany for a reason.

>>716245139
>Playing the game this expasnion
Not sure who is more retarded, that anon or you

>>716218345
this guy lies. It was normal in EW and even in ShB that People where around in the Endgame Hubs (EW: Old-Charly and Radz at and ShB: Eulmore and Crystarium) but this Guy is one of the Reason DT sucks so hard (Lead Story Writer for DT)

>>716242284
What discord even is this

>>716246096
he even looks like a loser

>>716242284
>Agender Pride
What?
>Aromantic Pride
What??
>Asexual Pride
Is this not the same as Agender? the fuck?
>Autigender
huh?
>Bear Pride
BG3?
>Bisexual pride
Ok this one I understand
>Demiromantic Pride
I'm guessing 10 something? 10 what? Don't fucking tell me they're attracted to 10 year olds I'm calling the FBI on that discord if it is.

>>716245030
I think you can not click any of them. But I fucking hate it. Absolutely Weimar.

>>716243506
Based channel and I hope it grows to at least 10k subs.

>>716246143
he was in charge of his own Theater that went bankcrupt

>>716246186
>Bear Pride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VM1ir7sfqA

>>716245030
>philly pride
I do love cheesesteaks

>>716245030
how mentally ill is the FFXIV Community?

>>716246186
It they don’t have MAP on there then that’ll make me upset.
Troons are hilarious tho, they’ll be against anything loli, and yet “crack eggs” to make kids troon out.

>>716246326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQlpFrm5iM

i prefer the original

>>716246481
extremely. If they banned everyone with a mental illness the game would die tomorrow

>>716246481
It’s everywhere now and we all hate it.

>>716242284
This is who is left subscribed

>>716246679
I wonder how they knew faggotry was the best way to disrupt Occupy Wallstreet

>>716246743
they're masters of subversion

>>716246481
Yes, yes to all of it. The comfy community that was built up over ARR, HW and SB is gone, long gone replaced by grifters like Grinding Gears, Jesse Cox, Meoni, and people like them.

>>716246894
Xeems is still pretty based though

>>716246894
I saw how Jesse Cox reacted to Llamatodds Tweet and it was pure PR and Square Enix Cock Sucking

>>716245126

>>716246864
well freud was the jew that gave them all the playbook of manipulating people. not sure why he isn't demonized more

>>716246947
Did you watch this?

>>716246562
>they’ll be against anything loli, and yet “crack eggs” to make kids troon out.
Because deep down they understand that, the only way to get more looneys is to groom impressionable children.

>>716247112
not yet, he usually puts these out in parts so I'll wait until it's all out

>>716246947
How? He's still sucking off the game very hardcore the only thing I'll agree that is remotely based, he shat on Sena saying how bad the voice acting was.
https://youtu.be/k31b5U-gKno?si=tTPwuFjXAYWwQ29I

>>716246972
It was difficult to watch, he's not going to ever say a concrete word against SE for whatever reason, he didn't even finish FF16 because he hated it so much but again goes to bat for it, he reminds me a bit of Piratesoftware in that he tries to portray himself as the reasonable voice of 'the gamer' but he's basically a mouthpiece for the industry and in Jesse's instance he's trying to keep the 'industry' on good terms because he occasionally does voice work and gets exclusive access and items and interviews (interviews mean views for his channel) from SE and various other companies.

>>716247321
and the most funny thing about cox reaction was that todd used buzzwords but he.. of course he used them too

>>716247321
The hilarious thing is all this kvetching over the game from these streamers and the doomers is so tiny overall. People who are terminally online screeching that their is the majority opinion when it’s literally a percent of the percent of overall players.
I miss when the internet was mostly White. .

>>716247443
I would say the worst thing about his reaction was most of his chat but especially MaisieSqueak .

>>716247832
Ironic you say that considering we're talking about the white part of the internet, the western player base.

>>716247896
>white part of the internet, the western player base.
Does he know?

>>716248009
Where are the white people then if not NA and EU, in JP? We all of a sudden left, upped sticks and left for the SEAcountries?
You're deflecting from the original point, fuck off.

So you're in the hole now. Player counts dipped. The story sucked. Housing nuked. Jobs neutered. Content paltry. All the jobs are at level 100, and you'd need a "new" progression system going forwards to justify tacking anything new on them because button bloat has gotten tremendously out of hand. The roles have basically become so homogenized that 95% of combat is a dance routine and you hit the rotation buttons on reflex. And the director is so focused on action gameplay as an evolution of the formula that he's gotten a dodge button added into a mobile UE5 port, which for all we know could end up in the main game at some point.

Where do you even go from here? 8.0 was supposed to be the new steps into the unknown after 7.0 was to be a blank slate to paint on top of, and now it has a Sisyphean task of shouldering expectations to rework Jobs, debloat the bullshit, make roles relevant, throw the devs out of their complacency in how they develop and design content, and make a story that's not dogshit. And we haven't even heard a single utterance about writer changes or plans going forwards to boot.

>>716218050 (OP)
This is FFXIV? Looks like Phantasy Star

>>716247896
oh.. i searched for this Squeak guy... oh god...

beautiful shetona maiden...

>>716218050 (OP)
this is what we call a dead game

>>716248264
Do you not realize the tens of millions of browns and blacks that have been imported by Jewish NGOs in the US and Europe?

>>716240231
I've capped everything else, but I still need to buy the gold jobs and cap them. How do I farmed gold?

>>716248858
join a group for it. bring canonneer

>>716248850
You're right and we white all magically flew straight to Japan in exchange, you're boring most likely you're Brown and a /pol/ poster.

is a large house worth it or should I just go for a medium? I'll proabbly get neither because housing lottery is a system designed by monkeys but I wanna gamble on the worthwhile one.

>>716250196
dont go for a house and just get a appartment or do you want to pay virtual rent?

>>716245030
It's Philly Pride for me.

>>716250269
I already have a house but want a bigger one

>>716246894
>only people who are positive or neutral on the game right now
Nooticing.

I dont like this, even during EWs slump it still felt more active.

>>716250196
Get the one with the best exterior, both are good and soon™ you'll be able to get large interior for medium plots and so on, they promised.

>>716225187
>Only post with gameplay
I kneel.

>>716250463
The thing is, it's very transparent they're not doing it out of a current love of the expansion because you can compare how they acted in previous expansions that was genuine or at least with Grinding Gears I think they've always been kind of grifters especially the longer grey haired one I don't remember his name but he seemed always more interested in 'clout' and becoming an eceleb than love for the game.
What I'm saying is, it's not that they currently love the game it's that they feel they have to defend the game out of fear of losing SE exposure and potential media influence with SE. Which is why their videos, their comments are coming across as so fake.

dt story bad so whole game bad

>game doesn't pretend COVID population explosion will last forever and keeps doing what it always has
>western world gets incomprehensibly pissed and starts yelling the game is dead

>>716251351
>Story is bad so whole game is bad

>>716251298
The only non grifters are the ones who say XIV is dead.

>>716251830
character or person's face in the thumbnail = their opinion doesn't matter

idk what people are defending anything for. even the ceo said they have a problem

but my guess is they'll "solve" that by reducing funding even more while ramping up the cash shop to milk the whale saps as much as possible

>>716251927
That, I can't deny.

>>716218345
even radhz at han always had a bunch of people in it

>>716240441
God Neo Exdeath was such an excellent fight.

>>716251992
CEO basically told the questioner to fuck off, is the thing

>>716252230
Oh, you missed the fact that someone deliberately mistranslated it and then that mistranslation was spread around for controversy clicks?

>>716251992
>What are trannies who are mentally ill even defending
Their defending their Second Life home.

>>716251992
xiv's doing fine and the ceo is a retarded cryptonigger

story so bad whole game bad if you like anything about the game you're a delulu troon second life player

>>716252294
It wasn't even mistranslated very badly, it's Twitter goblins reading what they wanted to be there and not what was actually there

>>716252427
If you want some sparks to fly, criticize Heavensward or Shadowbringers

>>716252420
But the CEO didn't even say that XIV was doing badly. He basically "well anyway"ed it.

>>716252420
not disagreeing about the crypto thing but the game is definitely not fine and i want it to be fine i have over twenty thousand hours in it i dislike doomposting

whoever you are in the game i have more than you

it's not fine it's dire

>>716252592
It's stagnant which is a different thing from it being bad

>>716252420
>ffxiv's doing fine

>>716252592
Question:
What is wrong with it other than:
- The 7.0 story
- Job design
>>716252675
Every MMO is stagnant.

the 'housing crisis' would be solved if they'd let people go into inn rooms together

and no, the recent round of demolition isn't going to be good enough for 'them'. they'll all get sucked up in the next month and we'll be right back at the issue

>>716252864
objectively the game doesn't have to worry until it's at a fraction of its current player numbers and everything past that point is wishful thinking on wannabe stock marketers and console warriors' parts

>>716253043
>objectively the game doesn't have to worry until it's at a fraction of its current player numbers
Says who?

Like XIV was basically the best MMO ever in 2021. But then it fell off because they took it for granted and XIV had its Shadowlands moment with Dawntrail. And now it's honestly the worst MMO on the market.

>>716253267
says me, an anonymous poster who is always right

>>716253268
its classic japanese complacency
niggas make everything a template

>>716253319
Well I disagree with your statement and so does Binx life is mizzy .

>>716252979
>What is wrong with it other than the two most important aspects of it?
Yeah man my car has no engine or no wheels but what's wrong with it OTHER than that? Retard.

>>716252503
Those expansions were years ago, you're not allowed to talk about anything but the current patch.

they're biting stale b8 again
c'mon bros at least let them work for it

>>716253534
>everything is wrong with it
>nyooooooo my load bearing complaints
Classic

>>716253534
I can't drive a car without engine or wheels.
I can play XIV.
This is more like your car not having seat covers that you like.

i can't believe people would just go on the internet and tell lies

>>716253603
Mald

>>716253719
my lala wife waiting for me after a long day of adventuring and tomestone grinding

bait used to be believable

10 hours until Final Fantasy XIV is saved, stand strong comrades

>>716253868
ro kuwariti beito desu yo

>>716253603
>He capped his own post

>>716253908
I mean... I'm looking forward to seeing the new aesthetic stuff like the gear and seeing a bit more of the alliance raids and deep dungeon and some other misc updates they might have other than the furniture change and the hats
oh and the trailer. no matter how the game is, the trailers are always good

>>716253817
i'm not marrying a schmuck who doesn't have at least a 19m medium in a good zone

>>716253043
no, you are wrong, japanese companies are looking to grow and if the playerbase or, the profits, stagnat, for them is a failure.

>>716241745
There's a wide gap between the game playing itself and the game ass raping you because your phys ranged stood one centimeter to the right of where he should have. Any game should demand more from the player as the player proceeds through it and gets to higher levels, that doesn't mean it needs 24-man body checks on everything that isn't "talk to three farmers".

bozja was dogshit. matsuno is a hack and washed up.

>>716253028
>if they'd let people go into inn rooms together
holy shit, this would only be something erpers would want

>>716240231
>>716241297
Don't get hit, you fucking retard. If you're too stupid to stop getting hit then play GEO or MNK or Knight.
>people want to mindlessly farm OC, there is no need to make every single encounter needlessly stressful
I fall asleep during CEs. They're not stressful in the slightest, they're boring as fuck.

>>716254437
forgot to say I got assraped by Lyon the one time I managed to beat red chocobo without getting a vuln up stack

>>716254765
yes. a good % of players that want houses just want somewhere private to go. it would reduce demand for housing

>>716254904
There are already apartments for that.

>>716254934
need to get to 2nd lieutenant to do that, and not be on a trial. and find a vacant apartment

>>716255052
>need to get to 2nd lieutenant to do that
Takes all of an hour.
>and find a vacant apartment
This is on Sargatanas.

>>716255151
Here's an Empyreum ward also on Sargatanas.
There's no shortage of apartments.

>>716231136
This is why I like Praetorium sometimes, I've had a surprising amount of pleasant conversations there like I remember talking about G Gundam with some dude there last year, it was a fun time.

>>716255151
>Takes all of an hour.

i'd enjoy watching you do that on a new character in an hour

I’m having fun with Endwalker THOUGH, and I look forward to doing the FF11 raid in the future

>>716255286
I've done it several times on RP characters.

>>716231097
i wonder how is this with mare activated...

>>716255384
in one hour? you made it to sylph management, grinded out 14k grand company seals, cleared DD and AV? in one hour?

>>716255287
>I’m having fun with Endwalker THOUGH
Oh, a newfag? When'd you start?

>>716255480
I think its the anon who copies old posts
They copied one of mine before lol

>>716218567
We didn't even go over the fact loads of areas suffered thousands of deaths during EW, do you think we will ever go back to sol9 in a year?

>MrHappy took the bigfishpill
Remember, you're not allowed to say there's no content until you post your full fishing log, simple as.

>>716221896
I have yet to meet a 1.0 player who didn't tell me they were a 1.0 player within 5 mins of meeting them.

>>716255465
Completely fresh from level 1? No, but from hitting level 50 and finishing Praetorium, yes. Is your complaint that completely new players don't have an ERP spot five minutes into starting?

It's hard to care about Tural when it's based on a latinx shithole continent.

>>716255758
my 'complaint' is not a complaint, its a proposed solution to relieving pressure on the housing market. you'd know that if you actually read it instead of trying to 'um ackshually' a completely different issue and then go hyperbolic on me as if that gives you a rhetorical advantage

honeybeebros...

>>716255561
oh....

>>716255931
can't believe howling blade is cheating on wicked thunder

>>716256013
can't believe retsarra isn't cheating on eutrope with yaana instead

>>716256129
the three sisters share him. fenrir's power can be used in surprising ways

>>716256186
killing retsarra now

>>716255879
Completely new players aren't putting pressure on the housing market because they have no gil to buy a house with in the first place. Anyone in a position to buy a house can also buy an apartment. Your solution fixes nothing that apartments don't already fix. The only actual solution is to dynamically add new wards as they fill up.

>>716256387
>we should reduce the demand on housing by giving people an easy place to be alone together

you somehow read this as
>we should add housing for erp alts

no, increasing supply is not the same as reducing demand

no, this is not a panacea to the housing issue and i never claimed it was

no, the housing issue is still awful but this would alleviate some small part of it for relatively little manpower

Are people really subscribing just for a patch of the MSQ? This patch won't even have the Deep Dungeon in the first month, players are going to do the MSQ-Dungeon-Trial and then just farm the Extreme after beating the Raid Alliance in just one day?

>>716247112
I'm watching now. Never before has he been this wrong, He is a skipper so all his points on story are ignore tier. Stormblood better or worse I don't care but patch cycles were shorter and jobs were more fun. Forked/chaotic were miserable. Battle content is better but its not amazing nor enough to enjoy. DT story had more problems than just Wuk she's just the face of it.
I think streamer disconnect is hitting hard rn, XIV is known for its good story so it makes sense people care when the "good story" goes to shit.

>>716256863
>Are people really subscribing just for a patch of the MSQ?
Happens a lot, yeah.

>>716256863
day 1 24 mans are really fun

>>716256836
>we should reduce the demand on housing by giving people an easy place to be alone together
And again, apartments already fulfill this need. Because anyone in a position to put pressure on the housing market is in a position to get an apartment. The problem here is not that people want a private place to be alone with friends, it's that they specifically want a house.

>>716256950
yea i loved all of jueno's one hit kos *such* good design

>>716257050
>t. played like a coward and got dismembered

>>716257050
What? Jeuno was pretty cool and fair.

>>716257050
C O W A R D I C E D I S M E M B E R S

>>716257020
you've demonstrated you're unable to follow a simple point so i'm terminating this 'discussion'

>>716257280
Concession status?

>>716218142
Hey that's me. The queue on Saturday is going to blow ass.

>>716256918
I always thought the people who made FFXIV their main game, to raid but don't touch the main appeal of it they have something fundamentally wrong with them.
For example for my sins I watched Arthars a while ago and he explained his mentality is that single player FF games a big part of those games were the fights and the super bosses which is fair but I said to push back they were the flair but the entire draw to those games were the stories and characters not the super bosses.
You're playing an FF game and proudly stating you skipped the entire story, Rinon another raid brained retard said he's played the game for 10 years but not once touched the story.
I do not get it.
Also I've done both, but I prefer MSQ and I only raided because I was invested in the game, I raided in Dawntrail and it was a miserable experience in comparison to previous tiers for me.

>>716257409
>Arthars
opinion or post or whatever discarded

>>716257445
Missed the point of the post, are you here for discussion or to shitpost?

>>716240598
>jp has dogshit taste
checks out, they also clapped when sage lost its 2nd dot

>>716257572
whatever you have to say it's probably shit, shhh and sit down

>>716257643
You're here to shitpost, I see.

>>716257664
but your post is flawed before you even mention arthars
>the main appeal of it
it's the main appeal for you, not everyone is like you and not everyone is as retarded as you are

I was in an OC instance alone with a JP player waiting for pot fate, it spawned and we started killing it but he disconnected when the final mob was at 20%, so I waited until he reconnected so he'd get credit, he reconnected and killed it and he didn't even say thanks. I thought the Japanese were the epitome of good manners????

>Raid nigger getting flustered because he's realised without a good story the game is in trouble.
We told you this back in Endwalker but you said that game could stand on it's own with just the battle content, you told us the jobs are good enough to carry the game.
Well that time came and eh, it doesn't hold true does it lads?

One thing I don't get is why they don't grab textures from newer stuff and dump it on older stuff. Brickwork, fabric, CHAINMAIL, scale mail.
Like I know a lot of stuff will be AI uprezzed. Chainmail is a texture that sticks out. It usually feels like it lacks depth since it's so old, and the newer equivalent textures look way better.
But I just know they're gonna uprez the old textures instead of just using the new ones.

>>716257903
>do a good thing
>expect a pat on the back and GBP for it
you're the bad person in this scenario anon

>>716218567
There are no other countries around but Tural. The current king of Alexandria is just a kid that's a puppet of Tural.

>>716257915
>the jobs are good enough to carry the game
nobody was saying this in endwalker.

>>716220676
Warrior.

>>716218050 (OP)
Despite having a mysterious color palette (similar to Teldrassil) and erudite lines, it still feels very sterile and in some ways claustrophobic. Had this place featured majestic spires, sweeping seascapes or fluffy nature, it would probably be a new hangout spot.

>>716258162
>I didn't see it so it isn't true
You live in subjective reality, I live in objective reality. Without the MSQ the battle content and jobs, how you interact with combat in this game is nowhere near good enough to retain the player base. Even the raid streamers are playing other games right now and not ff14.

>>716233750
There was also the whole thing about Martyn meeting the indigenous people, whose flashback bits and the New World-themed clothes we got implied they were Indian style folks, getting exposed to bacteria and illnesses from Eorzea which he was trying to get funds for medical stuff to prevent. Come Tural, unless I just wasn't looking hard enough, those people basically don't exist and not a single NPC or any sidequest mentions some big bout of foreign sickness.

>>716258362
obviously, but nobody was happy about job design in ew (further homogenisation and streamlining).

>>716257409
In the case of big hardcore raiders or streamers its simply the prestige of clearing content quick and looking like god gamers. Its like that for any hardcore content in any game, Xeno and Arth have their livelihoods tied into the game so ignore them.
XIV also has lots of content when you begin, lots of ulti's and sync'd raids. so you commit for a pretty large amount of time. Hardcore raiders and casuals meet in the middle with RP'ers or just the big social aspect this game has. I personally never made friends in WoW or other mmo's i have tried but I have made plenty in XIV. Story players also care a lot more and loudly when the game they like sucks, hardcore players just move on. Xeno hopped on Tera after his rant if that tells you anything

>>716233750
That lore was from Ketenramm's reports, and Gulool Ja Ja was the Autarch of Mamook at the time they met. So that's not a retcon.
>>716258442
You're right, they don't exist. The Whalaqee were almost definitely supposed to be in Shaaloani but were written out. There's an entire unused village there, plus all the wild west style buildings have Eorzean writing on them even though Turali people are confirmed several times over to be illiterate.

Is FFXIV really so good the only thing you faggots have to do is sit around complaining about interior design and color palettes.

>>716258353
they call this a city
but thats not what i see

>>716239039
t.goldshire child rapist

>>716258686
nah we can also complain about the story and particularly about a cat woman

>>716258686
you're not supposed to notice that

story bad... GAME BAD!!!!

>>716258442

>>716258645
>write in cowboys with American dialects who use non-fatal rubber bullets in the prospector town area that's farming a surplus of Ceruleum out in the open that somehow Garlemald didn't just decide to take over
>also there's some nature yuppies off to the side areas, and some Miqo'te nomad tribe that doesn't really do anything but serve as a backstory trauma over buffalo
>but those indians? nah, too colonialist to be sharing a space with prospecting cowboys and stereotypical, better make sure they cease to exist
>>716259046
It's fucked how the New World isn't even the New World because its already being charted and explored, and every area you go through was literally planned out in some way or another for the succession to begin with. To even reach the Golden City's gate, you have to march through a dead baby cave and no one raises an eyebrow about this choice.

>>716258832
Did you just realise this? It's been a year since 7.0 how are you only now realising this?

story so bad... makes me seethe i hate it story bad game is so bad i'm only here for the vn mode!

>>716259046
the guy who claims kate didn't affect the story been real quiet since this dropped

>>716221896
>launch xi and 1.0 player
how can you tell? I dont remember getting anything for playing them

>>716259314
Correct

>>716258819
how the fuck you get there

>>716259046
So Kate had direct influence on the voice direction, on the lines of the dialogue even in the CG trailer, she's admitting it right there.

>>716259046
to be fair this isn't even a bad line, despite the cringe reasoning for its inclusion

>>716257050
>t. Doesn’t look at the boss or over hundreds of hours doesn’t know the mechanics they use all the time
lol lmao bro just outed himself as a horrible player or a shit poster now let see which one he will pick.

I like FF games, and MMO's.

I put in 250 hours.
I like the numbers, text, UI, and a lot of the monsters.
It's just that ALL THE RACES AND CHARACTERS YOU CAN PICK TO PLAY AS ARE SO FUCKING UGLY. EVEN THE CAT GIRLS AREN'T THAT GREAT.

Fuuuuck this game for making all the player races so ugly. It completely ruins the game.
I finally stopped playing when the dungeons sucked and included unskippable cutscenes.
It's one of the worst designed MMO's ever. New World was way better, and that is a fact.
This thread is making me want to play New World, BDO, or SWtOR.

I'm trying to find what fucking real life language Shaaloani uses and I can't find SHIT.

OH FUCK LIVR LETTER IN 12 HOURS AAAAA

>>716258645
>>716259231
>>716259231

what causes me to tell my workers to design certain things for world building then it gets ignored and rewritten?
lack of resources?
consultation company?
keito? daichi san?

>>716259708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZUoCpx8jag

>>716259265
I like 7.2 story

>>716260008
trailer will be mid if it shows gulool ja and wuk .

LL threads will be stalked and shotgun-pruned on sight, won't they?

>>716260338
its still hiroi slop. the whole neo regulators and SOL 9 is attacked 3 times is boring as fuck.

>>716260190
We dunno where to pass the buck yet. Kate has more influence than some people think she does, but Daichi has a fucking terrible habit of overwriting past lore liberally to fit his new bullshit: see Zero, the Memoria/Memoriates, turning all of an FF3 themed Shard into an FF4 nightmare, etc.

Fire hiroi and kate.

>>716260413
I like it.

>>716260423
where the fuck are the blue mage lobbyists in SE. i mean the fucking follow people stealth guy and blowdart mini guy get what they want every time.

>>716259046
>"I can't speak authoritatively on what they were thinking" Cwynar says of the orignal Realm Reborn era
>Kate Cwynar - Lore consultant for FF14
That's pretty worrying, shouldn't there be design documents or meetings where the older team discuss their intentions for the setting and story or the ideas they had?

>>716260860
She could just go to the basement and ask Oda.

>>716260860
1.0 team got scuttled far as I know, but I never looked too deep into it. Yoshida took over, I got no idea who crossed over from 1.0 to 2.0, but at the very least, the 2.0 team onward were carrying a world with absolutely none of the original ideas or plans the game had been intended for.

>>716261035
The original lead lore writer moved on, but people like Oda and Koji were on the original worldbuilding team. They just weren't the leads at the time.

>>716260926
>oda in the basement
>hiroi in the alley

they need to fire that fuck hiroi.

>>716261160
Then I've got no idea what happened. Internalized pressure? A failure to keep track of things? Just stupid "oopsies"? For everything we can pick at on the outside, a ton of stuff is still missing answers from the internals that the devs aren't openly chatting on.

Is Ishikawa still around?

>>716261373
She got kicked upstairs. She's supposedly an advisor/coordinator of sorts for the writing stuff, but odds are she's busy with other CBU3 projects. Hiroi's shit would've had to pass through her, and it doesn't feel like that really happened, or she didn't bother to say much of anything on it.

>>716261491
>too timid to say hiroi your stuff is shit and stop ignoring the lore
>too busy readin boys love comics at work
>completely doing other work not eve in the same floor as hiroi

i miss them

>>716261310
>This stupid fucking cat is still here...!?

>>716261491
Surely, someone has had a talk with Hiroi for 7.2 to at least not be as horrible as 7.1 and 7.0.

>>716261796
someone theorized hes the most depressed and having theater bankruptcy flashbacks.

theres a reason the never had him in any convention talks so far. lol.

>>716261930
Surprised they haven't found him in his apartment with his stomach slashed

>>716260190
its the result of giving a plan but having no supervision

yoshi doesnt actually produce for the game beyond PR, because he's too busy being poached for slop projects by SE

>>716261930
That's true. Ishikawa was at least around quite often for events.

>>716260860
It's bullshit, and I can prove it. Pic related was added when BLU came out in Stormblood and refers to giants of the New World. In FFXI this spell is learned from the Trolls, which were used in Dawntrail for the Yok Huy who are referred to as 'the giants'. Meaning the Trolls/Yok Huy were always planned to be there. She was able to put all this together just fine. She's not ignorant, she's not confused. She's malicious.