>SPEEN, LOOK HERE! LOOK LISTEN!

>>716365419 (OP)
Imagine the blowjobs

What is his fucking problem?

>>716366270
The devs listen to this streamer faggot btw

>>716366270
He's completely irrelevant and grasping for any attention.

>>716365419 (OP)
Transexual containment playground. Long may it live, so the kind of people that "play" it remain isolated by yheir addiction from everyone else.

>other thread wasn't negative enough so anon had to make a new one
Wew lad.

chubby hrothgar wife

The next time someone complains xiv is an overly moderated hugbox, just show them this.

Thoughts on chat bubbles being disable during combat? I was hoping to make annoying death macros with emojis

>>716366270
>>716366359
I thought this chink got cancelled?

>>716366710
Good thing.
Its intended to prevent the weakauras shit of shouting signs on every mechanic. As a bonus no annoying death macros.

A new deep dungeon sounds fun but I ain't coming back until they untrannify the game, which at a minimum won't be until the next expansion. Wuk lumat was so genuinely awful I can't even think about resubbing, though I am curious about the crescent due to liking Bozja.

>>716366692
a reddit screencap?

>>716366843
If you like bozja you'd probably like OC

>>716366843
My wife and our daughters

I was working during the LL
Are we back?

>>716367380
no lol

>desolance was right about llamatodd
xenosys is next

>>716367380
The only kind of cool thing they did(which is still very much mediocre) is that you can buff the boss floor 100 boss to make it harder with loot you get from the deep dungeon.
People expect this to be a new age of design for FFXIV without remembering the jobs we have are very boring and how there are no RPG elements to make new mechanics off of.
Also you get a title for your hard work.

>>716365419 (OP)
>I. PROMISED. HER. I'D...
>HUURGGGGHHH UGGGHHH I'D GO FUCKING MANMODE WE MANMODE IN THIS BITCH HRRRAAGAGGHH I'M FFFFUCKING HHURRGRGH I'M GONNA FFFFFUCKING SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNN

>>716366658
BASED

What kind of fat cuck wastes his whole life grinding every job in a dead nip mmo? Maining bitch healer, no less. K E K

>>716367795
I just want a reason to do roulettes outside of capping currencies
I want more stories, sidequests, glams
And for the love of god, I want a glam library. The Armoire is fucking archaic

is this the infamous folder spammer?

>>716368406
Sorry bro maybe in another 11 years?

>>716368465
>Instead of making content that fits different types of gameplay
>We'll try to make content that fits all types of players
They have no idea what they're doing do they?

>>716368445
>singular
We have such sights to show you...

>>716368613
They're Square Enix in the year 2025. What the fuck kind of question is that?

>>716368465
If this meant "every piece of content has different difficulties or mode for casuals and hardcore players" would be fine
But we all know this wasn't what he meant

>>716368675
YOU make a fair point.

>alliance raid gear
Um.. is it just female attire only?

>>716366937
OC is worse than Bozja. I enjoyed Bozja. OC is boring

>>716368738
why was bozja more fun for you? isn't it basically the same thing

>>716368406
I just want Glamour chests to finally be put in fucking housing/apartments like the promised years ago lmao

>>716366270
I felt like YoshiP said the opposite, he said raid/savage patches basically have nothing to do for casuals and they want to fix that.

>>716368704
Exactly, if they simply added in different difficulties to fit different types of players then fair enough, but that isn't what he's talking about and we all know it. They're trying to reinvent the wheel when it comes to difficulty and again they'll end up failing because for some reason these devs don't play other games or at least they don't portray themselves that well versed in other games, to see what else is out there to see what is the standard, to see what people like and dislike.

On a side note I do think it's funny how the Exp33 devs visited Square Enix headquarters and didn't meet with YoshiP Producer of FF14 and FF16 and also former boss of Ben Starr, but instead met with the FF7r team.

>>716368613
>remove every singular RPG element that XIV had that it could have been used to expand the game in the future
>reduce every singular job into a homogenized blob that plays itself
>forces developers to increase content output because of a lack of diversity within the game's content and gameplay.
>His role is to cut costs by the way

>>716367380
Not at all, SE is actually trying to kill this game off. This is nothing short of deliberate. Stop saying they are being retarded. This is a clear form of sabotage and nothing less.

>>716368784
to put it simply, it flowed better. Always feel rushed in OC. I think it's cause you are moving across the whole map in OC constantly because it's unlocked straight away. Where as Bozja you stuck to one area. Not to mention the dungeons were far better than the forked tower bullshit. Wasn't much of a fan of the duels as they were a bit too rare and required building you lost actions around them a lot of the time

lmao, I see the post counter going up
didn't realize this was a dumpythread

Why are dps players so bad at this game?

>Deep dungeon and Hildi not until october
so the patch will have
>one and done dungeon
>one and done trial
>4 alliance bosses

>>716368303
>balmung
probably a gay troon

>>716369056
that does make sense. you kinda see everything in OC in the first hour or two, and then it's just trying to get exp.

>>716369086
ninja gave me carpal tunnel

Is he a bot or does he actually sit there posting all that shit?

No, just no.

>>716369439
This but bard

>>716369086
well, there's no in game resources to tell you how to optimize your classes. most people aren't going to join a discord for that. and even then, your reward for being good is... slightly faster clear times? shave 2 minutes off the 10 minute boss fight?

>>716369460
you can queue up shit with 4chanx
but you still have to type captchas and select files

Wait, the patch is releasing in August 5th with a single dungeon, the MSQ and a trial but the DD isn't releasing until 7.35 which is September.
A single dungeon and a trial is meant to hold me over until September, for two months?
I don't craft so don't even tell me to craft in Cosmic Exploration.

>>716369809
Oh wait I was wrong it's not coming out in September, DD is coming out in October... October to wait for the DD, it's July right now.

>>716369460
It's more than one person

>>716369809
Treasure will be available right away as well I believe? And Fresh new pvp gear, don't you want that modern drip?

>>716370050
Fuck no I hate Streetwear in my fantasy game, keep that shit away from me. I loved the previous PVP glams but these current ones are ass.

>>716370050
God I despise modern gear

>>716366692
>just turn the channels off
>NO I WANT THEM BANNED

>>716366692
How long ago was this? If this was recent I think I need to start playing WoW classic, I have yearned FFXIV chat to be active but the only active chat in game is Novice Network and it's full of mentors who are always online no matter the time of day saying hello to each other and only talk to each other using it as a global chat to masturbate over each other.

>>716370468
mists classic launched on monday

>>716370050
The third one reminds me of X-2 so I don't hate it, but the rest can die.

>>716370050
On a related note, are there any mods at remove modernslop from the game?

I know there are ones that remove ultimate weapon glows etc

>>716371042
Well, you can use the same trick with a mod called glamourer. You can set it to replace items, hair styles, and even race swap. you would just need to set up the appropriate flag to have it change the equipment. You could have them all running around in sastasha gear

>>716370814
Fuck it, I've got a bunch of time on my hands as I'm having to look after an elderly relative as her carer but that leaves me with a bunch of hours twiddling my thumbs doing nothing and I'm tired of FF14 so I might as well try WoW classic Mists isn't that the Panda one? I think I saw the landscapes in the Noclip ff14 documentary and they looked beautiful, so I'll try it out.
I was going to try Guild Wars 2, pay once and that was it I dunno I just need something to fill my time and I missed out on the entire WoW thing when it first launched, and they've still got wuk in the msq for 7.3 man that was the one thing I wanted less of.

>>716369809
You don't have to subscribe when 7.3 hits you fucking dingdong.

>>716371373
what is the point of having a brand new patch date then...

>>716371373
So what's the point of the patch?

GOOGLE DOCCY FOLDER DUMP TIME. WATCH THE NUMBERS GO UP IN REAL TIME
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IWWfJW2qtJxvj9CcW0bAzLlB2lsmaF5zA6dghFY7vV4/
You ok? You started during last thread but then stopped abruptly.

>>716371353
do it. but be warned, wow's endgame is obtuse as fuck. look up a beginners guide for mists of pandaria

>>716370110
>someone saved my simple edit
aww thank you anon :3

>>716371664
I'm not really bothered about Endgame, if I can explore the zones and do quests that's enough for me. I just like fucking around in large multiplayer game worlds.

>>716371438
>>716371502
?? I don't understand. Some people will naturally subscribe to do the content immediately and start whatever objective they have for the patch, whether it's grinding the Extreme for gear upgrades/weapons/the mount, getting new glam/upgrades from alliance raid, grinding new crafter/gatherer gear, upgrading their crafted gear or grinding the new PvP rewards and glam. What a weird fucking question.

>>716371917
I would prefer it if there was a whole patch to explore at once instead of a drizzle here, a drizzle there..

>>716371917
How is that going to last 2 months? You can knock out the extreme in a couple of weeks, less as this time they're giving 2 totems and that's if you want to do the extreme. I'm not fucked either way, I did the previous ones but I don't even know what the trial is yet.
Would be nice if there were at least 2 dungeons per patch like there used to be.
Also the reason you don't understand is because you're a white knight shill who thinks people questioning the logistics of this game, means they hate it so you have some autistic defence reaction where talking like a normal fucking person is beyond you.

>>716371981
Why does it matter if you can just subscribe when 7.35 hits and have the entire patch. You can't seriously have FOMO about this game..

>>716368465
Translated: instead of making easy mode content and hard mode content, all content will have easy mode and hard mode...which will solve nothing

>Make great instances with CLL/Dalriada/Delubrum reginae
>Say fuck that and make a new DRS with no casual instance
>also make first timer casuals an active burden in it
?

>>716372132
Because lad, he's saying he wants the content he wants to do when the patch releases so he has options and not restricted to the release time table that SE have set up that dribbles out content to try and make you sub for longer, you see if they released the DD on release of 7.3 that would mean a single month sub could take you to complete all the content of 7.3.
But SE wants more of your money, so they scatter the release of the patch content over the entire span of the patch instead so you'll sub for the MSQ, dungeon and trial on 7.3 release and then re-sub for when the DD releases in 7.35 with this method SE now get two months of sub money instead of one.
Before you say "yeah well come back in 7/35 then you don't have to sub" that means you're expecting people to wait 6-8months between patches, they're going to quit and leave the game entirely because they'll forget about it if they are gone for too long.
It's a very cynical business strategy by SE.

Where do you guys buy gil?

>>716372590
why the fuck do you need gil

>>716372531
>they're going to quit and leave the game entirely because they'll forget about it if they are gone for too long.
LMAO, that is rich. Unless they have amnesia, this shit sounds fucking retarded. The drip feed is obviously very real and a way for SE to maximize profits, but you can either fall for it and have zero self control, or then make wise decisions with your money.

Thoughts on the Live Letter from the Forums.

>>716367795
>have to dredge through 100 floors of DD to enable said content
>doing DD in the first place
>all these people glazing the DD change and claiming it will set a new precedent for future content design
>they had the same sentiment about variant and criterion dungeons
>they had the same sentiment about chaotic alliance
>look at both of those pieces of content now
>it doesn't even drop until october
why the FUCK are content creators losing their shit over this? yoshitpee has really mind broken them so hard that they'll shovel any pile of shit into their mouths and claim its the second coming of sliced bread. at this point I'm actively rooting for this games downfall

>>716372874
>why the FUCK are content creators losing their shit over this?
Its pretty simple really, they need their audience to not give up on the game.

>>716370182
>OSRSChads and RetailGods own this genre
Feel good.
I can play bothj and have fun in both :)

>>716366692
>The next time someone complains xiv is an overly moderated hugbox, just show them this.

So a player crying that the game is not a moderated hugbox is proof that tthe game is a moderated hugbox? Are you ok?

>>716372874
Ugh truuuuuuuuuuuuuuu we don't want to play the game we want to get back to the 'mung 'sands and goon with the 'cord!

XIVbros, are you guys checking the state of D2? Shit is so funny, they are literally going full hardcore and listening to their content creators, they are literally balancing the game and grinds around streamers...

>>716373109
i didn't know there were diablo 2 streamers

>>716368704
>He says the literal day they announce a piece of content that is designed to have different difficulties and modes for casual and hardcore players
That might have actually been what he meant

Am I the only one who sees that Yoshi P. no longer behaves like a producer or like someone who loves this game?
But more like a Z-list celebrity pop star who just tours the world and lets himself be celebrated?
I think we've reached a point where SE needs to think about what's next for this game and whether it's still justified
to let someone like Yoshi P. work on this game.
As long as he's there, there will be no more big changes. The game is stagnating.
Always the same formula, no risks. There's nothing left to discover in the game, no more dangers, not even a good adventure.
Either because everything has become so easy, or because the LL's are so full of spoilers that even the dumbest among us understands what needs to be done in the game to get from A to B.
Today, Yoshi spent over an hour just spoiling Deep Dungeon, why?
Part of that wasn't LL anymore, but a streaming of Yoshi running through the Deep Dungeon and killing Monsters. I don't know but I am not a Fan of "Watch me Play Game XYZ"
And then there are his constant promises (lies). If you don't want to change anything about the game/system, all you have to do is say so, instead of talking about changes, hype Players with it and let them wait forever.
Does anyone remember that one interview when Yoshi was asked if we'd ever get Garlean armor and weapons, like Gaius's weapon? Yoshi replied that it could be now done since the Garlean story was over.
Years later yes, you all guessed correctly, nothing has happened. No Gaius weapon, no Gaius, Nero, or Livia armor, no Zenos minion or Zenos, Gaius, Nero portrait.
Meanwhile, the Mobile Game got Gaius Armor, and we got a 42 Dollar Glamour in the Item Shop.
I love this Game here so muchI rewatched Cutscenes so damn often, there was so many intriguing, funny and even sad parts to see in all those Cutscenes.
With DawnTrail, all that changed. I haven't rewatched a single DawnTrail cutscene.
No, I'm not burned out by this game; I've opened my eyes ...

FF VI player here, what's wrong about Dawntrail? You seem to criticize it a lot.

>>716373418

So once again - for the fifth time in a row - we will get a storyline finale dungeon that is a phantasmal/holographic recreation of the villain's long-lost home, where they will explain their sad backstory and why their homeland was so wonderful and great and deserves to be the ONLY thing that exists, and trauma dump onto us as they cope with their inability to let go of the past.
Just like Amaurot.

And Dead Ends.

And Lunar Subterrane.

And Alexandria.

The only difference this time is Calyx is a scientist so he won't be quite as maudlin and whiny about it as other villains.

As much of a Shadowbringers simp as I am, I am begging you, SE... Get some new material.

Is someone really just copy pasting forums posts here?

why are you like this

>>716366270
Not what YoshiP said
They said they want to expand the content various people enjoy

>>716373498
I mean kinda even worse. We're getting Alexandria for the 2rd time. Also is this a reddit post or...?

>>716373579
yes, he's a very busy dumper

>>716373594
Seems based

>>716372103
>How is it going to last 2 months
Isn't it one month? Took about that long between 7.2 and 7.21.

Using engagement metrics as a KPI is the problem. That's exactly what led WoW to Shadowlands. If a high percentage of the remaining players are engaging with Cosmic Exploration and Occult Crescent, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's good or fun. It could very well mean that players are all but being forced to do it for power progression (Torghast), or that it's the only relevant piece of content in the game that hasn't already been completely exhausted (CE and OC).

They need to ditch the formula, stop thinking about FFXIV as a series of quantifiable deliverables, and start making a game again. The name Creative Business Unit 3 is almost ironic at this point. FFXIV's development is more akin to a factory conveyor belt than a creative process.

The percentage of the playerbase that is engaging with a piece of content is not important. It's important that content is enjoyable for players who are fans of that type of content and that the game continues to deliver new and interesting experiences.

>>716371548

>>716373660
7.21 is just Cosmic Exploration and relic updates. I'm looking forward to Cosmic but the first part got a lot of complaints because it was basically just levequests and I don't expect that the people put off by the moon will spend much time on it. And relics are just going to be dailies.

Even if 8.0 ends up being a Heavensward or Shadowbringers-tier expansion, problem is you still need to play through Dawntrail to reach it. Nothing short of removing Downtrail from the game is enough to get me playing again.

>>716369403
@Grok, is this true?
I thought Dawntrail patch cycles have been longer?

>>716373953
she wishes she had those boobs.

>>716374185
it feels like an eternity between patches

>>716367815

average solution 9 hrothgawd

>>716374085
To be honest the way they talked CE up i expected something a bit more engaging

>>716368406
I feel like an ass for bitching if they try and make progress but functionally if 95% of the game is old abandoned and miserably boring then it's not solving an issue of so much of your game being agonizing to play. And it kills me as I know they'll never go back and make old content harder.

>>716370050
I wonder if we'll see this go away (or reduce) in 8.0 or not.

>>716372531
Of anything to keep people subscribed I can very much buy increasing the # of housing. Not too much, just enough to make it competitive again (Apparently Balmung since the restart of demolition has had some openings, which is like a house being available in SanFran)

>>716374170
They offered 2-3 fantasias for people for free, so I think offering an MSQ skip up to 8.0 is not likely but also not impossible. Just string it together with some "Previously, on Etheiyrs" abridged cutscenes with your WoL.

>>716374402
I thought it was going to be more of a co-op thing since that's how they described it, but it's really just completely solo crafting/gathering around other people. Not what I expected, but I still enjoyed it.

>>716374443
>I wonder if we'll see this go away (or reduce) in 8.0 or not.
No. They are very popular despite the cries on /v/.

>>716369349
Yeah that's every major patch. Half if not more of the content isn't even in the first patch.

>>716365419 (OP)
She looks like she fucks human men.

>>716374443
>I wonder if we'll see this go away (or reduce) in 8.0 or not
No chance, women and troons love the modern clothes. Guys are the ones that run lore-friendly armors.

>>716374402
Yea... I should have known better than to hope, but it turned out "Cosmic Exploration" was just rebranded leve quests.

>>716374443
Kek, I'm reminded of DMC5 having a 1-4 summary and 2's summary was "DMC2 happened, it's not important"

>>716372874
>didn't even overhaul the DD design
>just has some boss you can fight at the end
>1(one) fight you can make harder if you want

>>716374402
Don't worry, Meteion will show up at the end and make it mandatory content down the line for when they inevitably need to pull dynamis out of their ass again.

>>716373209
density 2

>>716373209
>i didn't know there were diablo 2 streamers
It's a good game.
mrllamasc streams it practically every day, for years. I dunno how he keeps going, but he finds ways.

>>716375170
what if i played sorc but put all my points in energy

I will laugh when bunny hats end up being completely half-assed

>>716368853
>>716373624
Drop Cosmic Exploration and drop DDs. Buff Diadem if you feel it necessary and add some new shit to get from there so the craftlords can do stuff that isn't exclusively crafting raid gear.
Either fix how Treasure Maps work so they are less absolutely ass with it's retarded "limitations" so people can actually do the treasure dungeons or drop them too. I'd gamble 1/3rd of the player base don't even have Dig command unlocked.
Fucking focus on delivering Adventure Forays that work, from the near start of the expansion to the end of it as part of most patches, not this wait a literal year for it to release shit like Occult Crescent that just ended up being "lol sorry this Foray is for the non-casual raider crowd lmao!"
Fix the Hunt system, put that shit on a fucking individual 4 hour timer per person and make them good and propah boss fight fates like they're clearly designed to be. People simply avoid the entire roulette system, which is absolutely necessary for game health reasons to be run, and crank out A ranks for all their currency needs, as in literally all of the fucking currencies, when it's an armada of retards hopping from point to point clubbing seals instead of bosses since they die within 10-17s on average, it's literally just free money.

Casual content should be FIGHTING content majority with some shenanigans in-between. For fucks sake Cosmic Exploration is going to end up with more updates than Occult Crescent. Have some viera titties since they're getting hats at some point.

>>716365419 (OP)
Furries really find this hot?

>>716370050
>even more NGS trash
Sure is final fantasy around here...
>B-BUT YOU FIGHT ROBOTS AND SHIT IN FF GAMES SO THIS IS TOTALLY IN SPIRIT

>>716375219
yeah it's often ridiculous challenges.
There's this one youtube channel that often pops up in my feed where it's another guy that plays Diablo 2 a lot but is always doing ridiculous challenges like playing a barbarian but putting all points into strength, or an amazon but putting all points into agility.

>>716366359
>Sucking off a game designer
bro,,,

>>716366270
This guy's a fucking ESL chink who gives a fuck the guy's a loser reject. Only retards care about a failed male like this.

>>716365419 (OP)
>monkeyman is still in the game

>>716368868
>Exp33 team visited Square
>mfw it's true
Genuinely thought they were invited to KojiPro only, but it seems that they came on their volition? Not that it matters much, but interesting still.

Also FF7R team iirc also had some of the OG FFX team, which is more relevant to E33.

>>716375373
The main battle designer for the game cares.

>>716374195
It's known fact she's the most stacked old man.

>>716375240
I wish viera were real

>>716375439
Lmao so another loser who sucks at his job. No wonder.

why are these threads always boring trancer dumps instead of sphene porn?

>>716366270
It's never enough for casuals since they hate playing the game, it's always the raiders who end up doing pvp, eureka, deep dungeon, crafting, whatever

>>716365419 (OP)
>show Wuk struggling
>flashback to what she's struggling for
>its the scene of her screaming "penis" down some stairs

Absolute Cinema

I don't care about the MSQ at all, it will be shit. The new formula for Deep dungeon was genuinely interesting though, time will tell if its actually good, but i think its safe to say that its already a big improvement from the previous deep dungeons, at least from the standpoint of actually having more content to grind trough for the average player. I was shocked to see YoshiP saying that there's barely any content for casual players in even patches, because this has been a problem for like 10 years now. Better late then never i guess. I mean this has been a problem for the entirety of DT, the savage raids are good, the extreme version of Cloud of Darkness is good, Forked Tower... exists but none of that is relevant at all for casual players, its absolutely insane how the casuals have been completely neglected for the entire expansion. Its easy to pretend they don't matter, but they're a huge part of the playerbase.

>>716366359
>another section for the high-end duty list that will only have one fight
sasuga, ozma-san...

>>716365419 (OP)
On paper, Wuk Lamat should give me boners, but somehow they designed an anthro catgirl that's repulsive to all my senses; and I can't even smell, touch, or taste her.

>>716375569
>PvP
>Win-trade central
>Scripter cetnral

Raiders are fags. Of course they enjoy SLOP.

>>716366710
Good
go look at any wow raid clear, they abuse the fuck out of their chat bubbles, using plugins to turn them into makeshift timers

>>716366710
It's retarded.
Hopefully we can just mod it in.
I already use the existing chat bubbles plugin, so probably that guy will just keep on keepin on.

>>716375843
>dude thinks we are still living in feast days

>>716368704
>every new side content is gonna have a difficulty slider and you get some inconsequential shit for turning the slider to max
>casuals are still going to complain they "deserve" everything for doing the content on very easy
>hardcores are still going to complain there's no content once they clear current content
all you can do is ignore everybody and execute your own vision

>>716376003
Not him but I would be utterly shocked if PvP isn't rife with scripters, last time I played it NIN players were using autofire scripts to execute people

>>716374402
Crafting will never be good in this game. All the stuff that makes crafting fun in mmos relies on the surrounding game as a whole to enable it. Interactions with the economy, other players, etc.

XIV is one of the most tame mmos in this regard. There's zero resource scarcity, submarines print money out of thin air (not that there's a use for gil anyway), you can treat this as a single player game and still craft everything just fine. There are basically no interesting social dynamics for it to play off at all.

>>716376003
lol, lmeow even

>>716376205
>try and craft some level 20 armor for my buddy
>he over levels it in one daily roulette run
Crafting has no reason to exist aside from current patch endgame raiding and fashion.

>>716376205
>crafting is bad because gathering is bad
>crafting is bad because there's other ways to make money
>crafting is bad because you can be self sufficient with enough time

>>716375714
What did they change about the deep dungeon? Looked like standard fare to me.

>>716376390
It's like everyone quit playing the game

>>716365419 (OP)
>Sphene summons Alexander
>Alexander erases the events of Dawntrail from the timeline
>New players have the option to skip the Dawntrail MSQ
Would it save the game?

>>716376390
This shit happens every season, so annoying.

>>716376526
Yes.
But we don't get to live in that timeline.

>>716376437
There's the casual floors (1-30) and the hardcore ones, right? Now you can queue into a pug party for the latter floors, rather than having to make a premade party. Also, the additional floors checkpoint every 20 floors, instead of sending you back to the very beginning. This alone makes the hardcore floors infinitely more acessible to more players. Also the final floor boss has a mechanic where you can face it as a standalone trial, and the difficulty of that trial can be adjusted by feeding it items before the fight, and it goes from a casual, puggable fight to something that is apparently Ultimate-level, its what they're calling "quantum difficulty". This is all to basically make it so the reward sctructure is more varied, with more ways of winning the loot, and making the latter floors more acessible, while also providing a new trial that is (hopefully) interesting for all tiers of play.

>>716376575
i'm kind of glad people are this blatant about it, it devalues the worth of the titles so much that ive lost all the fomo i had to tryhard for them

>>716376575
Also happened during Ishgard Restoration to on some worlds.

The MSQ trailer is so embarrassing. They're trying to make it seem like its such a big deal, like its a big, chapter-closing confrontation, while in reality we're fighting some random scientist twink who we met 5 seconds ago and know literally nothing about, with a resurrected sphene by our side who also has no emotional attachment to us other than looking like the character we fought before, all to save alexandria from some vague immortality-based threat, which we have already done like 3 times this expansion. Its all so unearned.

Is kalyx meant to be the kuja of this expansion or something?

Anon, DT is your breather and vacation expansion, you're not going to get another expansion like that until some other super threat is felled. Which let's be real FFXIV will be closed down before that happens.

Also good writing and the tropical vacation / adventure category seem wholly exclusive to each other.

>>716377113
It wasn't even a vacation. Estinien got a fun vacation. WoL got stuck babysitting a retard and installing them on the throne of a country he'd only just arrived in.

They managed to fumble a mere 20 minutes with her parents and she couldn't even use her own earring without Gulool Ja's help. Maybe it's my fault for being a Krilefag and expecting anything of this writing team.

Anchoring Krile wearing Sugar Riot's transformed outfit, holding a can of spray paint.

>>716377251
>couldn't even use her own earring
that was just fucking sad

>>716377303
>drawthread faggotry

no. get out.

>>716377113
Where was my vacation?

Drawing Krile with a personality and pretending its canon

>>716376735
Did they change any internal mechanics? Or is it still the same tired old pommanders?

post yfw sphene dies and wuk lmao becomes a permanent scion

>>716377506

>>716370050
jesus christ this game has fallen off a cliff

>>716377504
Still pomanders, you can summon Feo Ul as an assistant this time. And there are lamps that add extra floor conditions that seem pointless to me unless I missed something.

>>716377506

>>716377506

>>716377573
Some QoL for accessing more than just a third of the dungeon is nice, but if it's just the same old aetherpool and pommanders without any actually interesting roguelike kind of changes it's a pass from me.

>>716377506
There's no way that would ever happen.
Wuk Lamat is like the most hated character ever, even the japanese players fucking hated her, Yoshi would be a massive retard to keep forcing her down our throat.

>>716377646
Thats true but I'm still worried. He might be that deluded.

>>716370050
>This is the "pill in dog food" fix attempt to get glamourfags to play PvP

>>716370050
There hasn't been good looking sets in shb
EW and DT were all gender neutral and modern shit

>>716370050
wasn't the last set of pvp gear modern shit too, shouldn't they have changed it up to literally ANYTHING else?

>>716370358
>>716366692
So they're both shit that's dropping players.

>>716368568
Pic related, the Archduke was right.

>>716378119
Modernslop is what the JP players want.

>>716366843
Same, but I don't think FFXIV can do much to change the makeup of their "community." Seems like they're attached for good. But hopefully the content can deviate from pandering to that culture.

>>716365419 (OP)
Is Sena back?

>>716366843
>I am curious about the crescent due to liking Bozja.
eh its alright a few cool encounters but not really worth resubbing for. try it on a free log in campaign.

My only worry with XIV losing fantasia whales players is that it'll put more pressure on the sole XI dev to try to milk more money out of its playerbase, otherwise it risks being shut down.

>have a decade old MMO that dealt with expansions containing mature themes
>wars, murders and other such stuff, and how to go through life after going through events that would make you give up on it
>suddenly have an expansion, which just to be clear isn't like a sequel of a game that you can play on its own, that suddenly goes all disney + shonen for kids that dreamt of being hokage pirate king with writing fitting for it
Fuck were they thinking?
Is 7.1 and 7.2 any different, I didn't bother with them. Probably gonna wait until 8.0

>>716378578
all serious ff11 players are gigawhales paying an extra month's sub every month for inventory

>Announces Endwalker delay
>Expected a lynching
>Was given the benefit of the doubt instead
>EW was good until the Post MSQ
>Started hyping up DT
>Players were understandably excited
>Wuk gets introduced at the end of EW
>Is immediately hated
>Yoshida doubles down and has most of the content he was hyping for Krile cut
>DT comes out
>It's hated by majority of the playerbase
>Even the Japs hate it
>Only ones that like it are the semi-vocal trannies and fags
>Yoshida shits on everyone except the fags praising DT
>Loses all good faith
>Sub numbers drop and he blames the players for being bigots
>Occult Crescent finally drops
>It's fine until leeches realise they can sneak into Forked Tower groups for 'easy carries'
>This causes a halt in progression due to the supposedly 'casual' content requiring more coordination than a Savage raid along with it needing a resource to even be able to get in
>Players want a seperate que for it like how Bozja did
>Yoshida scoffs and says no
>Players really start giving him shit
>Yoshida rushes a letter from the producer to cry about how people are mean to him and how it's not his fault
What's next for this moron?

>>716376575
Can anyone tell me why they don't do anything about it? To me, it just devalues the entire experience and makes it not worth doing. It's embarrassing that a premium pay to play game with a subscription allows people to blatantly abuse the system with no punishment.

>>716377506
I would never trust any SE product again if they pulled this retarded shit.

>>716378617
Just stop begin mean already

>>716378617
>Yoshida shits on everyone except for Kate's rainbow cultist creampuffs praising Dawntrail
>Yoshida says 'no' to the fans
>Yoshida rushes to a live letter stream and starts crying about how fans are mean and hurting his fee-fees
I think you're just making shit up, just because you have a micropenis-sized hateboner against him. It's getting old, let's just discuss FFXIV without you shitposters.

>>716370358
Sounds familiar

>>716378613
Most XI players I know that are still on retail, all have 2box and at least two extra mog wardrobes per account. My country's dollar got so weak against USD that I just unsubbed. Wasn't going to pay $40/mo to function in that old game.

>>716370050
You know what pisses me off? After Vanguard, any cool fantasy sci-fi shit is gone. It's all modern fashion with a sci-fi edge. It's all retardo drip unless you like the moon stuff. You could have so much potential for Everkeep and Solution Nine shit to make sci-fi knights and mages, since Alexandria itself is still a fantasy kingdom wrapped beneath all of that, and instead there's only the Underkeep tanking set as the other sets generally look more like someone in some moderately dressed hiking gear.

>>716377506

>>716379446
The Neo-Kingdom and Historia sets are good.

You are so lucky, Y'shtola came in to spout 2 lines over headset and was saved from the expansion
>calls Wuk on Linkpearl before you
Crazy

>>716379675
Yeah, I won't fault some of the actual gear so far, I want to get the Historia Healing myself for a bit of a fun WHM look. But the Alexandria stuff is almost completely a total bust.

are they gonna throw /ourgal/ a bone anytime in the post patch content

>>716379926
Yeah, she's gonna kill the bad guy for us again and join the Scions. :)

>>716379959
My wife...your time will come, hold hope

>kill a major character off that people actually liked in the MSQ
>introduce the original two patches in and people are positively receptive to her
>potentially bench or even outright kill her one patch later variably before she's really had much time to do anything

>>716380118
fire kate KILL HIROI

This expansion was so ass

>>716380238
>was
We still have two more years of it.

>>716368743
QUEEN

I wonder if they'll just use the same Turmoil track from Baldesion Arsenal for One to be Feared or if they'll have Mizuta remaster it.

>>716380118
THERE HE IS DOOD

>>716380424
it'll be 'random ffxi battle theme'

>no new frontlines map
cmon man
at least they finally fucking made purify not dogshit

>>716380483
They've used the appropriate battle themes in other places so I don't see why they wouldn't use Turmoil here. But they've already used it in the game before so there's an opportunity to do another version of it.

>>716380534
they absolutely positively will NOT remake it. they didn't remake the ivalice songs, only got 3 original nier songs out of the 15 or so they used in the game

>>716377506
would honestly convince me not to even think about this game again

>Did the FFXI raid once
>One of the fights is the most generic dragon that can possibly exist
>Somehow even more generic than Fatalis, who is basically the poster child for generic black dragon templates

Do XI players weep and clap and shit themselves over it? At least fatty came in swinging by being the best fight in the entire game.

>>716377506
I refused to buy DT and deiced to wait till the next expansion and just buy a skip because of Woke Lemut in the prepatch quests
this would unironically kill the game for me

>>716366692
How is this even possible? I thought all of these types were removed from Blizzard over the years. My channels are all pro LGBT and shippers talking about stupid shit.

>>716381075
>Do XI players weep and clap and shit themselves over it?
Actual XI players? they dont like ffxiv at all and stopped playing it when ARR happened.
Anyone who claims to be a FFXI player in FFXIV is some one telling little lies to seem "cool" or what ever

>>716377646
Lyse didn't get Yoshida post-release trying to defend her with a "the way we portrayed the character was misunderstood, we'll try to make sure players actually care more about the depths we haven't gotten to show yet" statement the way Wuk Lamat did. They banked a lot on this shit, she's supposed to be the deutagonist of the expansion. If she somehow makes it past a 7.3 benching to continue being our primary tagalong piece of shit, the community will give them hell, but there's a non-zero chance they definitely intended on more for Wuk.

>>716381075
He was just a really powerful notorious monster on a long respawn timer who dropped some nice things so linkshells were always fighting to claim him. Getting woken up at 3am by your LS leader to get your ass to Dragon's Aery was just very memorable for a lot of XI players so they put him in. Personally I don't care for his inclusion, they have such limited space and they used up a slot for an HNM.
>>716381156
I've played both games since launch day, so blow it out your ass.

>>716381075
>haha man what if we like.. have a fight but no tells
>oh man that sounds interesting, what have you got
>well.. we can do a frontal cleave, and then a back cleave. and then in and out.
>Brilliant!

>>716381075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-abGTw2sSk
>captcha: phagt

>>716366359
Ozma designed uwu, not ucob, this chink is so fucking retarded.
He's so high on getting replies from a dev he's been spouting more nonsense than usual
>>716366771
No but his youtube editor draws porn of dragons and shit

>>716381075
>using "raid" to describe FFXI battle content

ngmi

>>716381075
half of "playing" FFXI is auto attacking and waiting for MP to regen. you'll go in blow your load and then sit around for 10 mins

>>716381075
thats because its memberberries aimed at FF11 players who quit at or around the end of the 75 era

>>716381736
You've never played it.

Why don't they just make an expansion where you're in the worlds from the older FF games?
That would be cooler than whatever they're doing now.

>>716381826
Silence retard. That's also what gave it its charm. You had time to chat with your party, unlike this game where you must be full uptime in combat.

>>716381910
he's been doing nothing but meripo with 4 dps/nins/red mage/bard for the last 16 years

he's bad faith posting again

he doesn't interface with any video game he just larps like it

>>716381874
They pissed away 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, and Tactics at this point. Plus Lightning, Noctis and Clive all ending up in and leaving at one point or another, so by all accounts, they can weasel some retarded shit that those worlds exist, but there's no real reason to visit them. If their shard hopping hype antics don't run over to suck off 7 as directly as humanly possible to try to get the good boy points, then it's better to stick to original plots.

>>716381987
No need, in the current game you're rapid firing weaponskills now.

Anon, DT is your breather and vacation expansion, you're not going to get another expansion like that until some other super threat is felled. Which let's be real FFXIV will be closed down before that happens.

Also good writing and the tropical vacation / adventure category seem wholly exclusive to each other.

>>716382068
sounds kinda lame. does everyone have like 50+ tp passives now or something?

>>716382063
>weasel in some retarded shit
>ENTER

>>716382132
You mostly attack fast as fuck so you build TP really quickly.

>>716382154
I don't know why, but I trust this silhouette implicitly, and respect its strength.

>>716382154
>Dissidia expansion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaC-ESH4MGo

Honestly I don't know what they could do with this shit anymore. DT had a nasty reception that makes Stormblood look quaint. Sphene is probably gonna get sidelined to Alexandria or fuck off to side story content to barely ever matter again, Wuk BETTER fucking stay in Tural because the JP community might genuinely death threat the developers if the devs try to make her stick around. Shard hopping is kind of meh, I don't trust Meracydia after the fuckery with Tural, and there's been no word about dropping Hiroi away from main writer altogether.

Just what do they even do now?

sure

>>716382753
Probably the black rose timeline so they can bring Emet back.

Why didn't they show the Fending/Maiming set for the Alliance Raid?
We've got Shantotto, Prishe, Lilisette, who's the 4th?

>>716382839
Yoshida was confused and grabbed the wrong paper without realizing so he showed this pile of shit instead. My guess for fending is Trion because it can be recolored blue for a Shikaree Z maiming set.

>>716382753
Im glad that DT happened so people could finally realize SB was fine at worst and peak XIV at best. Sucks to be a shadowbab or endsperm who missed out, but at least those newbies know what a REAL stinker looks like now.

>>716381075
Generic dragons are extremely based

>>716382794
>any time you want to prog the boss you need 40 offerings
They REALLY did not think this through. DD players dont care about ultslop and ultslop eaters wont want to grind DD for currency needed to prog the super hard boss.

>>716383041
They said you can sell the offerings on the market board.

>>716383041
You can market board them. So really, the autistic intensity folks that can make it to floor 99 in the first place, and the money makers, are the only people that actually matter to this; 98% of casuals won't even make it past floor 30.

>>716383041
The currency isn’t used if you don’t clear

>>716383067
>>716383102
Imagine if you had to pay to raid? Thats immensely retarded.

>>716383152
Imagine
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/recipe/7f9f714182b/

>>716383041
Any time you KILL the boss you need 40 offerings. Offerings only get consumed once you kill boss and loot chest.

When are they transfering the chinese mobile version of the Fate system with reward and shit into the main game?

>>716370145
>generic medieval edgelord junk
>generic medieval junk
>generic medieval royal junk
>modern slop
Anon, all of them are shit. The generic leather/plate fantasy shit was old 6 years ago let alone now. The only "good" shit they've made is either pvp-locked or otherwise annoying to acquire

>>716373317
You're not wrong, but simultaneously, changing the staff around is what caused EW and DT's enshittification. We HAD good design and writing in ShB and parts of EW. Then for no fuckin' reason, they go Mad Hatter, yell "CHANGE PLACES!" and shuffle in some fuck-ass with a bad pedigree to write DT.

Here are my conditions:
- Sphene survives 7.3
- Sphene refuses to become queen again
- Sphene finds a new purpose outside of Alexandria
If all of these things happen, I will never talk ill of Hiroi again.

>>716365419 (OP)
>First Wuk asked Speen to Listen (Hear)
>Then Wuk asked Speen to touch her (Feel)
>Lastly Wuk is going to ask Speen to think of her (Think)
Hear... feel... think...
I FUARKING KNEEL!

>>716383697
I will haunt Hiroi to his fucking grave no matter what happens. Did you know the Japanese believe that if you hate someone strongly and frequently enough your ghost will actually leave your body while you're still alive and go haunt the target of your grudge? I'm working on that.

>>716383464
Never, please understand, PS4 limitations.

>>716382753
>Just what do they even do now?
Wrap this arc up by 7.5 and leave everything on a giant cliffhanger with no actual direct. 8.0-8.X is a purely horizontal expansion with focus entirely on gameplay breadth, class diversification, upgrading present content to be far more engaging, and the entire MSQ is purely about revisiting areas we've already been to to revisit all of the old content renewed. Level cap is still 100, jobs instead get Subjobs with huge overhauls to their kit, Blue Mage is made into a non-limited Job, Beastmaster is turned into a non-limited Job, balance is all over the fucking place as they make it so every job is now extremely unique in their approach rather than being streamlined for raidlogging, and items are shifted heavily so they actually have use in combat. Hell I'd go so far as to make it so that a huge part of this content upheaval also brings in things like Gold Saucer, that silly Ishgard rhythm minigame, and even Squadron Missions all get sizable updates and revisits. If the next expansion is another vertical increase to level 110, with the exact same linear story, the exact same boss cycle, the exact same writing team, and nothing else substantial other than turning the wheel one more time, people will start leaving this game in droves and it'll be near-impossible to reclaim it. DT was basically the community's stress test, and this is verifiably the limit of Nothing the XIV community can take.

>>716383659
There's basically two major things to blame for this:
a.) CBU3 deciding to expand their project workload, so you got FF16, FFT remaster, and more unannounced stuff on the way, so the good people are shuffled towards new shit away from the breadwinner thanks to the philosophy of "don't put more budget into a breadwinner than you have to"
b.) Japanese promotion culture where you work and slave your life away to get that promotion, you can't just walk away from it, so all the competent people got promoted into advisor and senior positions that don't actually have much hands-on effect with the game anymore. Harada from the Tekken series got promoted upstairs in Bandai Namco, and he said "fuck it i hate a desk job i'm going back down to the devs" despite his position, and his peers pretty much act snide and smug towards him for acting "below his position" for it, or so he says. It's fucking workplace feudalism.

>>716368303
cuckoli is a known /xivg/ lolcow and diaperfag

>>716383797
That's pretty impressive hate

>>716383993
I assume everyone who uses /vg/ is a daiperfag.

>>716382794
>nip version of tigole
This mmo really is fucked for good, huh.

I actually want this game to die so that we have a shred of a shred of a shred of a chance of getting a new MMO-lite game from Square. Just fucking SOMETHING else. I am tired of this PS3 engine slidecasting ancient game that doesn't look or play well with a bad seasonal ilvl system based off of WoWs with none of the uniqueness of gear that has any abilities. It was fine for years and I didn't mind but all of it has run its course. Let this game get skeleton crewed into a small pop server on maintenance mode and let it die off slowly in peace. Please just give us a new online game it doesn't even have to be a full on MMO just something like an MMOlite.

>>716383697
Can you get a tripcode?

>>716384318
SE will never make another mmo again, it's genshit clones from here on out

>>716384318
>a shred of a chance
There is none. Current SE leadership will never greenlight another MMO, and after Babylon's Fall and their Splatoon clone crashed and burned they're not risking anything adjacent either.

>>716384318
They're contemplating whether turn-based actually has value to fuck with after Expedition 33 basically showed up both VII Rebirth and XVI, and I wouldn't be surprised if that spooked the DQ XII devs too, but another MMO? Fuck that noise. It was hell for them to even make this one, they'd never trust that again, and there's NO ONE to handle it that wouldn't be grossly underprepared besides the DQ X team, and I'd rather they keep doing what they're doing.

>>716383697
Hiroi has never cared about pandering to (You), FFXIV is just a vehicle for his failed stage plays and Kate's nepo troons

what the fuck are these stupid fucks doing man
just fucking make a fun patch how hard is it?!?!??!!?

>>716377646
well but the Most hated Character seems to get a lot of Screentime again in Patch 7.3 and this could mean.. there more Wuk Lamat coming for us after 7.3 because this retarded Hrothgar wants to be with us forever and ever

>>716366270
>Casuals should try other content
This guy has been playing the game for a living for what, over 10 years and doesn't even have 50% completion? And he also complains about lack of content?

>>716384638
Hiroi was the worst Guy to become a Lead Writer and i bet 7.3 will show us that again.. i have a big fear...

>>716365419 (OP)
LOOK HERE!

LOOK, LISTEN!

Kek her face:
https://streamable.com/lum9c7

>>716366270
is he actually retarded? Yoshida was saying the opposite.

>>716385037
>>716384518
>>716382794
>>716385098
Yoshida and his sycophants are old, out-of-touch boomers in a cutthroat young dev's industry. When was the last time FFXIV put out a player satisfaction and feedback survey? The kind that gachas shit out every 2 weeks?

>>716383041
>they REALLY didn’t think this through
KEK

the disgusting trannoid freak still can't act

>>716385480
They put out one before Dawntrail through email, I know because I actually filled it out lamenting the current state of the game at the end of Endwalker.

>>716370145
>oh no, I gotta resub, I'm going to miss the modernslop pvp time limited gear
imagine someone saying that...

unloading your folder eh?

>>716383697
>Sphene can die and join Ysayle and Minfilia in Dead Waifu Storage
>or she won't die and can join Hilda and Yugiri in Irrelevant Forgotten Waifu Storage
I'll still keep making porn of her, either way.

>>716366270
yeah I'm sure that will fix the hemorrhage.

>>716382132
Much easier to cap Haste. You can get up to 80% delay reduction on your auto attacks for most jobs. Also a lot more multi attack and store TP on gear now too. Most jobs can self skill chain, some can even multi-step on their own.

Refresh is also a lot easier to get now. Bards can force buffs onto a single party member via job ability now, so mages can get triple ballads with something like +8 potency. Red Mages get a bunch of potency to their refresh buff too, and you can have like 10 or more refresh just in your idle gear set.

the autistic shitskin is still at it, how pathetic

>>716385826
>I'll still keep making porn of her, either way.
It better be good

>>716365419 (OP)
He cute

>>716385776
Rutting deeply in Zepla's stinky worn out loose old woman vagina.

>>716374185
No, just less content.

>>716381075
>Somehow even more generic than Fatalis, who is basically the poster child for generic black dragon templates
That's the point of Fatalis. Every other MH Elder Dragon is "muh OC donut steele dargon" while Fatalis is just a dragon.
And that makes it special in the series.

>>716379446
you had like 1 main game and 4 expansions worth of armorslop

>xivniggers ITT are stil wasting sub money on kate's game
>in the year of our lord 2014+11

>>716381075
Fafnir was probably the most camped monster in the game. The only thing coming close was Tiamat. It was also an annoying fight, especially if you did it with low player numbers and non-ideal jobs. It dropped several very valuable items. Not every FFXI player fought it, but pretty much anybody who raided did at least once.

>>716385685
What the fuck? I read up on her career, she has literally done nothing but bounced around in academia for a couple of decades. How do they pick these people?

>>716386071
>loli pedo thinks he’s above xiv players

>>716381736
Not how Fafnir worked. He was constantly aoeing, you didn't get to rest much if at all. You had to manage MP properly and have a RDM and/or bard. Strictly speaking you had 2 DPS who would start the fight with TP, make light, BLMs would magic burst and then the DPS would meditate and do it again. Then you might wait a minute or two for meditate to be back, depending how spammy Fafnir got with TP moves.

>>716384059
holy fuck I'm dying

>>716386151
It's not what you know, it's who you know.

>>716374185
it's literally longer than the endwalker patch cycle so far by a week for X.0 to X.1.
There's no excuse for it taking this long. They started these long patches with covid restrictions in ShB upending their entire workplace and in EW the excuse was the graphical overhaul.

They have ZERO excuses for the delay now. They got used to it and hoped nobody would complain.

uhoh lolipedo melty

>>716386151

>>716385480
The nips had 10yen yoshitpiss pegged ages ago

>>716374195
she has other assets

>>716380118
she's an attractive female character, of course they're going to kill her. Remember Venat? Yotsuyu?

>>716386573
I thought AIslop was advanced enough these days to know that there's also a vagina in that region of a woman's body. The way this is devised it literally looks like just a flabby beanbag with an onahole in the middle of it.

>banned from national tv for begging for resubs
>about to get ding dong bannu from being alive
Yoshida will fake cry onstage again once his pet cancerkike kicks the bucket

>>716386675
Venat and Yotsuyu were literally the devil, so they deserved to die.
Don't you know that?

>>716378964
my god this shit is so retarded

>>716386723
I could fix them

>>716386457
I'm pretty sure they are working in other game because no fanfests announcements indicate the next expansion is going to be delayed

>>716386705
ass too fat to see it in that position is all.

>>716386827
I think you're just a slop consoomer and don't sweat small details like anatomy for the sake of getting your rocks off.

MSQ was never good, you were just invested because your character was the main focus and that worked like a diversion so you wouldn't notice flaws. Now that you aren't and Wuk is the main character you can see from the sidelines all those flaws you previously ignored

>>716383993
Here's his xitter

>Dear Customer:

>This notice is to inform you that we have terminated your access to the FINAL FANTASY XIV Forum for one or more violations of the FINAL FANTASY XIV Agreemen
Go me, I finally did it, all I had to do was call bluesky a parasitic hivemind

>>716386938
there's not a lot of good Krile stuff out there, so you need to make due. I didn't make the base images, I just animated them.

>>716386940
Post-ARR and ShB were the only parts of the MSQ I was ever invested in
HW was ok and all but I genuinely grew to dislike the preachyness and antireligious bent it had
SB was neat until I realized that only browns and yellows are allowed to be nationalistic
EW was nearly good but emo birb and time travel nonsense ruined it and Ultima Thule was pure wasted potential
Fantasy isekai where you get to be a big damn hero and learn the secrets of an ancient civilization with a charismatic and interesting villain was dope af

>>716384318
I agree. The death of the game would be freeing. A mercy kill of sorts. Although I'm sad that MMOs can't really capture the magic of earlier MMOs in this day and age. They'd probably have to create something gacha-esque.

>>716387003
I've been temp banned from xiv like 4 times before I just stopped using ingame chat. To this day I have no idea what actually got me in trouble and can only assume it was when I made someone feel bad over party chat or novice network.

>>716387140
If you talk publicly in Limsa or something, there's always gonna be a tranny petty enough to report you for every cuss word

>>716384318
XIV *is* an MMOlite lil bro.
>99% of content is for 4 and 8 players
>99% of content is instanced
>Can literally level from 1 to 100 without making a single friend
In any sane world this would be a fucking lobby game.

>>716383880
I like these ideas, but I'm disappointed that it's likely the opposite of what SE will probably do.

>>716366359
Arthars is such a faggot.

>>716387321
Content "Creators" where a mistake

>>716387208
They'll get there one day with XIV. If they offered a lesser sub fee for a version of XIV where everything overworld is ran locally, and only instances were server driven, people would pay for it, even if it means no housing, no seeing another player in cities, etc.

I finally got meteion to drop from deadge endges

>>716387375
What's up with the PS3-tier ground texture?

>>716387375
The only minion I ever actively farmed.
Congrats

Did the voice actor for Wuk ␆ themselves so someone else can replace his lines?

>>716387321
The ass kissing is pathetic

So looking over the trailer the MSQ might go like
>Calyx tries shit
>yet another invasion of S9 (as seen in the trailer)
>WoL and friends corner Calyx
>Calyx is beat
>HOWEVER
>all according to his keikaku
>Calyx releases black rose
>WoL and friends choking to death (as seen in the trailer)
>Sphene will not have it, resisting (as seen in the trailer)
>she will somehow absorb/contain the black rose within herself, dying in the process
>Wuk will have her moment with Sphene, who will cough blood on Wuk's hands
>Wuk will become incredibly angry, grabbing her Axe and faxing Calyx (as seen in the trailer her hands/axe handle are bloody)
>Wuk shouts about the promise she gave to Sphene in the past tense, suggesting Sphene has passed (as seen in the trailer)
>we beat calyx
>people in S9 snap out of it
>the funeral of Sphene can continue
>but it is extra sad because this time WoL and friend bemoan the real Sphene unknown to everyone else

The funniest part of the LL to me was that Yoshida had to reassure everyone that since this is a finale most of the focus would be on the WoL. That's how much of a flop their Wuk Lamat experiment has been.

>>716387349
Nigger they still charge a full sub fee for fucking 11
No they fucking won't get there one day, they'll keep milking their retarded paypiggie fanbase until the last one of them dies

>>716387502
God, Hiroi really can't think of something interesting to do with the Calyx shit. How many times is Solution 9 gonna be the dramatic invasion battle ground?

>>716368853
>said raid/savage patches basically have nothing to do for casuals
Lmao remember when saying this would have gotten 90% of the playerbase to scream at you for implying there was content that instantly became obsolete and that there's always content to be done.

>>716387502
nice brain cinema you've got going on there

>>716387502
They can't really kill Sphene, right?

>>716387375
I lost a 98 roll on her and so gave up. Good for you.

>>716386919
Every time I see this image I kek

>>716387629
NTA, but I farmed it with duty support, so i didn't have to roll

Like an anon said if they killed meat speen and actually made wuk a scions then I probably will drop the game for good, walk on and never look back

>>716368613
>They have no idea what they're doing do they?
They never did. They've been stripping every mechanic and RPG system from the game to make balancing easier and to make it so battle encounters are just Simon Says. It's also just a sanitized WoW which itself was already a sanitized version of older MMOs. The story was holding back all the criticisms and full on jading of the playerbase and now the story is shit so it can't even do that anymore.

>>716387616
They absolutely could.
But I don't think even Hiroi would fuck up this bad, after finally doing something right in 7.2

>>716387502
Interesting but I learned awhile ago it's pointless to try to decipher anything from trailers. Yoshida has openly said he enjoys making them misleading, with a lot of out of context scenes that appear to go to together but don't.

>>716387502
i bet Wuk Lamat will do the final blow because this thing is Hioris Main Character and she's gonna stay with us forever

>>716387694
Wuk will not become a Scion I think. The reception has been too bad and Bryer kept running his mouth how he has no work now, I would assume Wuk will be city leader tier.

The only thing that would suggest otherwise is the Mahjong voicepack that Wuk gets next patch, since only full time Scions seem to get that so far.

>>716387593
Hip crushing sex with Fordola the Endwalker

>>716387762
But it could also be a False Flag from Bryrer and a NDA that he isnt allowed to talk about it until 7.3 is live

>>716387758
I wonder if he's petty enough to actually do that. He has to know his waifu is hated worldwide.

>>716387725
Making a likeable character, endearing her to the audience and killing her off gruesomely next episode is very common in anime writing these days. And Hiroi really leans heavy into those tropes.

>>716387794
you know that in Japanese Workculture a Lead will always get his cock sucked by his Coworkers? I bet Hiori still thinks that Wuk Lamat is great

>>716368853
There's a blindingly simple answer to this problem, and it's across the entire genre: Stop adding unique rewards to the hit-dick-with-hammer difficulty content. Maybe let it get the end result faster, sure. But put nothing except maybe a title behind it. That way the 1% of the game's population that die of boredom unless they're playing tab-targeted IWTBTG will get their constant fix, while everyone else that's there to just play a game won't feel like they're being railroaded into doing content they'll never be competent at to get the shiny thing they wanted.

>4.3 patch from stormblood has more conten than this one

>>716387892
It's a decade old MMO, of course it's going to get less content.

>>716387913
then we should pay less.

>>716387795
I'm not gonna argue with that.
But there is no way they can make this death satisfying.
Why?
Because technically we've only known her for one patch. It's like sending a baby to palliative care.

>they solved the housing crisis by making people unsub, so now every single server has plenty of free housing spots
Actual 5d chess
https://zhu.codes/paissa?world=79

>>716387861
>What's that, you're so casual you don't want to try even our Savages? We hear you, we hear you!
>Now come grind these tokens you'll use for the right to either beat the boss at a regular trial difficulty, or super enhance it so that it's Ultimate tier, and you only have a 5% reward chance if you do the normal fight! See, we're appealing to everybody!

>>716387942
Umm no sweetie you should be paying more because there's more content than there used to be

>>716388276
>Now come grind these tokens you'll use for the right to either beat the boss at a regular trial difficulty, or super enhance it so that it's Ultimate tier, and you only have a 5% reward chance if you do the normal fight! See, we're appealing to everybody!
To be fair, that is literally how it worked in FFXI with a lot of the later content.

>>716387861
>Stop adding unique rewards to the hit-dick-with-hammer difficulty content.
I'll be honest this only solidifies to me that FFXIV is an MMO for people who hate MMOs.

>>716388185
I wish we could put this expansion into palliative care.

Here's an armor we haven't seen before

>>716388556
>dancer shit and more npc cosplays
terrible

>>716387321
All I remember about Arthars is that he got really disappointed he didn't get invited by CBU3 to those pre-expansion content creator meetups. This behavior he's showing hasn't surprised me since. He wants to badly be in their good graces.

>>716366270
>do various battle content
Would gladly if
>the midcore shit wasn't braindead
>EX and above didn't require finding other non-retards to play ddr
>job design wasn't in the toilet (no, complex fights does not mean jobs need to be fucking piss ass easy and static to play)
>gearing wasn't fucking dogwater

>>716388749
>complex fights
Is that what you call FFXIV battle design? Lol

why play any tank that isn't PLD I unironically think its perfect

i like how different the /vg/ and /v/ xiv threads are

but well the /vg/ xiv is mostly just gooning

>>716388749
>main gameplay loop is braindead
>lack of RPG mechanics means gear is a +1 treadmill
Man if only people were calling this out after HW's release and not getting shouted down by people that said the game was doing fine following the homogenization route.

>>716388556
TANK IS FUCKING ZEID? Wow whoever picked the tank gear is a huge fan since his gear isn't even available in XI itself.

>>716388810
Because Warrior is self-sustain and big dick feeling from some of the animations, and Gunbreaker is rule of cool. Dark Knight? Dark Knight is supposed to also be rule of cool + damage, but ultimately they look dumbfuck retarded with their animations.

Casual player here. Never done an ultimate. Or savage. Or unreal. Or EX. Or even solo duties. (When I get to them I ask my friend to come into the room to do them for me) but XIV is my favorite game. It's the thing that has kept me going through hard times. I heard Dawntrail was mixed but there's no way it could be that bad.

Lo and behold, after the ~4 hours of story which has already made it stand as one of the best expacs in my eyes, my story is interrupted by a dungeon. No problem! I can go in with the Scions to clear it! As I'm letting the scions clear things, looking at old Endwalker cutscenes on my phone, we get to the first boss.

Four golden arrows above my head. I run, I flee, but it's locked on. The scions are following me.
I die.
A fucking four man BODYCHECK
A BODYCHECK IN A NORMAL DUNGEON!?

That's when I left. It was too fucking much for me. Bodychecks in NORMAL content!? Fuck this. I immediately closed the game, went to their website to unsub, got really confused at how old the website is and decided to just stay subbed but be unsubbed in spirit.

This game is officially only for hardcore tryhard nolife unemployed gamers. I'm deeply disappointed and hope Yoshi P personally sees this and reevaluates things. If the game isn't for me, then who is this game for anymore???

>>716388556
I can't decide if I like Fending or not.

>>716388841
It's just gooner modbeasts and narcissistic avatar fags in /vg/. Sure, we got the image folder poster, but that type of person is more tolerable to be around.

>>716388801
Man, reading is ultimate tier content for you, isn't it?
>>716388871
HW did some weird shit (fuck you for neutering Holy), but it was SB that started the real downward spiral with slapping each job with a gauge and gutting and removal of skills and mechanics.
RIP MP and Clerics and like 30 other different tools jobs had and reasons to use secondary stats besides fucking crit.

>>716388924
>This game is officially only for hardcore tryhard nolife unemployed gamers.
Casual content outnumbers Hardcore content. Ignoring that all content is a static dev curated gear treadmill.

>>716388924
I refuse to believe this is anything but an AI generated shitpost.

>>716388556
The AR gear should be made available as lvl 1 role unlocked glam pieces.
At the very least some time after the AR's release.

this game population already peaked, and it isn't gonna growing anymore, they are already offering the game with two expansions for free, making shadowbringers free isn't gonna attract new players

>>716389185
Most people quit in ARR anyways

why is every pve encounter just emptying a boss hp bar while doing ddr mechanics

imagine if you had a wave defense mode and every wave you could buy/upgrade phantom/lost actions and traits

>>716387892
Those 2 patches are pretty much the same in terms of content.
You get Quantum instead of Ultimate and
Cosmic Exploration update instead of Eureka.

>>716389263
Dont forget the Rule of FFXIV Boss Fights:

1. The Sharpe of the Arena should always be round
2. If 1. doesnt apply it has to be a Square

>>716389263
Play WoW if you want unique mechanics, sorry.

>>716387660
Lol didn't even know you could get minions from trusts. Tried getting the necromancer minion from heroes gauntlet back in ShB and managed to complete every set before she dropped so just assumed minions weren't in the loot table.

>>716389263
Wave defense is shit.
Please refer to Mt. Hyjal raid from ye olde WoW if you're delusional enough to think your idea holds any value.

>>716389348
>pretty much the same
>people are happy they are getting almost the same content as a patch from 7 years ago when the game was less popular and with less budget

>>716389263
>why is this game not more like wow
wow tongue my anus, I hate shb game design, but the solution is not to make it more like another game

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>>716389487
i don’t play wow, but idk how it’s relevant. there’s tons of pve games with really fun wave defense gameplay like cod zombies and the fun doesn’t just come from the genre-specific gameplay like the shooting either. it’s a gamemode that’s been tried and tested in tons of other pve games and 1 poor implementation from wow doesn’t really have any merit in this discussion

>>716389548
>moving the goalposts

>>716389408
Check THIS out!

>>716389552
nta but you realize xiv is just sanitized WoW right? Even Yoshida admits that.

>>716389672
Mekk Knight Avram-sama...

>>716389640
What is Yoshida's goal now? To regain the player base from Shadowbringers? An expansion from six years ago?
It's because of people like you that the game is stagnating.

>>716389720
>Mekk-Knight
FFXIV is Fluffal/Punk/Yummy territory loser

>>716389717
It truly is now, but it used to be way more fun to play back in hw

>>716389672
I remember how this retarded raidplan used to kill my healer on pf every week since the cone were way wider and the version I used swapped tanks and healers.
I don't get why people make these strats without actually testing them, it happens way too often.

>>716389552
>ummm wow tongue my anus
>playing a wowclone
wowfags and xivfags trying to act superior when they're playing nearly carbon copies of the same shit is never not funny

>>716387861
Id prefer if they made normal content to be on par with extremes.
I only like(d) the msq, but the gameplay is too easy

>>716365419 (OP)
>wowowawa won
woah

>>716389601
Doesn't work for tab target mmo.
What you're describing is trash pulls except they come to you and not the other way around.
WoW tried it ages ago and it failed spectacularly.

>>716389773
>it was more fun when it was a less sanitized WoW
I love how everyone forgets Yoshida quite literally considers WoW to be the major design basis for ARR.
>piano combo that was still just linear rotations with no true variation that actually added any kind of dynamic play to jobs
Gunmage and Bowmage are the closest thing we got to "complex" and that's pretty sad.

>>716389881
Still more complex than what we have now, xiv really play like wow now, with only 1 or 2 simple combos, it has become an auto battler

>>716389760
Only based in you throw in VW

>we got a healer and a DPS last expac
>a dual DPS this expac
>if they don't cut shit down because of everyone demanding reworks for how fucked everything's gotten, that's a tank and a DPS next expac
What else do you even add for a tank? What, some dude with a mountain rifle, or dual shields?

>>716389951
Complex due to bloat not due to the actual mechanics. Again the most complex classes were gun/bow mage and that's mostly due to the fact that their casting mode toggles were more of a nuisance than a gain that has to be beefed up near the end of HW. Just because I have to click 1a2b3c instead of just 123 doesn't mean it's more complex. Complex would be giving Jobs toolkits that have the players adjusting their actions constantly depending on the bosses mechanics and not optimizing rotations for DDR.

>>716390093
It's high time to stop adding Jobs and just concentrating on making exisiting jobs better.
They could even bring back job quests.

>>716390170
That's also a valid point, but you can't put "job expansion/rework" on the back of the proverbial marketing box the same way you can two new jobs.

>>716390093
subjobs unironically

>>716390129
And you think it wasn't like that before? We used to have different openers, saving stuffs, use things differently

>>716389753
It's the quality that's an issue that should be worked on. Like how they it was admitted in yesterday's LL that they should reiterate on past content instead of making barely any adjustments when adding newer version of it.
What's the point of having more content when people just dismiss it as shit and proceed to stand in Limsa while whining that there is no content in this game.

>>716379446
Yeah if they're going to insist on having the game be more sci fi focused the least they could do is let me look like a cybernetic knight. That's cool and it makes use of the high tech fantasy setting. The sets we get in this expansion look like they either came from Norvrandt or from modern day Shibuya which is lame as fuck.

>>716382839
>>716382895
we already have trions gear in the form of wootz armor from 2.0 the 4th is Zeid

>>716390257
Let's be real, people were shit at the game back then and mistake being allowed to play suboptimaly with skill expression.
If HW classic became a thing, guidemakers would streamline all rotations to the point Gordias would get steamrolled week 1 effortlessly.

>>716390020
My little diaper boy Ze Amin...... And one of his many wives Nyannyan...

>>716390093
I'd be fine if they focused on stuff like reworks and subjobs and shit.
But there's plenty of ideas for other tanks they could do. Nobody uses blunt weapons so make a dude with a mace and a giant tower shield. I'd suggest naming it Foebreaker after the FFXII class (and keep the debuffer theme), but it's too close to Gunbreaker, I guess.

>>716371979
>becomes one of the best cards ever printed in mtg commander by doing mid game microtransactions
poetry really.

>>716390527
Honestly if we do get a new Tank, it will probably be the big cover job of the expansion, and likely tied to the theme. That's a toss up between heading for the Dragon homelands of Meracydia, so a bastard cousin of Dragoons as a dedicated defender, or whatever abnormal bullshit another Shard could offer us that results in a rather out-there tank if it isn't more traditionalist fantasy like what happened for the Void arc.

>>716390257
Different openers doesn't mean you didn't follow the same rotation eventually. It means you changed the starting point to meet the timer in DDR to optimize your damage aka optimizing your rotation for a DDR fight.
>saving stuffs
Again just delaying a static rotation for optimizing on DDR.

Once again the closest thing we had to "rpg" mechanics in Heavensward were accuracy checks that would determine if you could even hit the boss and that only really mattered in Savage and got removed down the line as they did all the other rpg mechanics or "mechanic" from 1.0 with the meaningless stat allocation. At least you could argue that there was a semblance of mechanic variation in Coils with rot pass, adding routes to determine boss mechanics and the like but that was only a few bosses and never expanded upon to the point that we lost trash mobs and exploring the area during a raid floor. The game is just sanitized WoW and it always has been. There has never been a point in time where the game could be called complex.

>>716390527
YoshiP said in a FF panel that there were several attempts at designing hammer wielding job that always get scrapped because it doesn't feel right.

>>716390093
Judge
Rune Fencer
A pet focused tank
Warrior Monk based on Girugamesh/Benkei
Templar or Defender from FFTA

>>716390676
Yeah. After Viper and Reaper they're clearly willing to do out there shit. And Sage shows they'll take existing jobs and make them something completely different.
That said, there's still plenty of jobs they could use as the poster-child besides a new one, even considering the rule that it has to be something that hits shit in melee. Gunbreaker, Reaper, and Ninja haven't been poster-children yet. And Red Mage might be acceptable, too.

the next dps job is just ranged because we didn't have one since dancer in shadowbringers
and it has to be gunner with dual pistols or bliztballer, there isn't any other job for ranged that can rise hype.

>>716390741
>didn't feel right
What? All they would have done is made it a carbon copy of any other melee dps

>>716390973
the next job has to be scouting because viper is lame and gay as hell and was a fucking mistake

>>716368374
>below one million
Who cares, game can't render more than 50 people at once anyway

>>716390702
Speaking of meaningless numbers, if they're going to neuter your secondary stats with each 10-level threshold by making the old max the new floor for proc calculations, they might as well remove them entirely as inherent character stats. Just start at +0 for each new batch of LvX1 gear.

>>716390973
It will be juggler

>>716366359
>Anounce at the beggining of the expansion that Ozma will design 3 encounters
>People exicted because Ozma is the "ultimate guy" so it was expected to have 3 ultimates
>Alredy wasted on 2 non content ultimates
Cheeky cunts those jp devolopers man

>>716391101
>no ivalice moogles in xiv
Man, I love tactics advance.

all the ranged characters have bad things aesthetically
>bard because is bard, you can have a pure archer ranger
>machinist "acrobatics" are out of place and the lunch box is horrible.
>when you use your dancer weapons, they turn into generic circles of light for all of them

>>716390093
It will be something shitty that hasn't been a real FF Job so far and only caters to anime fans in Japan.

My bet is... Clive. The job will literally Clive. Edgy armor fighting with just a single sword and having some primal abilities.

>>716390093
A barrier tank with a rotation that's all about refreshing its own barrier. Possibly without the standard handful of mits either, but instead the barrier acts as a hardpoint for damage calculation where over-damage doesn't go to HP like normal. As long as you have barrier, a single hit will never touch your HP no matter how much damage it does.

>>716391424
>has to make a reach for Dancer

>>716392006
Pictomancer pretty much confirmed that raid autist community will not allow any unique or gimmick based jobs to exist.

>>716375240
>People simply avoid the entire roulette system
Yeah, because it sucks. So instead of trying to force people to do it, how about they fix dungeons to be actually relevant instead.

>>716392883
>blaming dev design that's been following a predictable trend on diaper raiders
Lmao whats with this attempt to absolve devs of a design they've been chasing since ARR?

>raiders actually going around saying casual players are the problem
Grim.

>>716392006
lmao
You will get a tank with a shitty 60-90s CD mit, Rampart, and a 40% mit with some extra, pre-existing gimmick like a timed heal on a 120s CD.
Hell, at this point I would consider it a miracle if TBN makes it to the next expansion in its current form.

>You don't understand it's the RAIDERS that want the game to be easy and boring

>>716393216
>aieeee blaming the devs logical endpoint from are means you're blaming casuals
KEK

casuals didn't ask for job homogenisation but they should've been a lot more resistant to the changes (especially stuff like summoner/black mage) :/

>have to do 100 floors of DD for a bit of currency
>then have to spin the wheel and hope the items with a 5%< drop rate drops because I play casual mode
>then have to win the roll against the 3 other assholes in my group
If casuals already hated the new Atma grind, this one will go over even worse.

>>716393391
Neither casuals or raiders asked for it in the long run. It was always the logical endpoint from the start of 1.23a aka Yoshi entering the position as the project lead. Introduction of Jobs restricted cross skill access with job stones equipped, ARR was nearly the same barring the WoWification but started to remove basic CC mechanics the further we went into it, HW removed stat allocation forcing everyone to play as the devs intended, SB removed most stat checks, ShB homogenized Jobs further to chase a smaller gap in DPS between raiders and casuals and that mentality has been kept the farther we got into EW and DT. Retards are so busy infighting you ignore who is actually making the decisions in the long run.

>>716378770
Because if they start banning one type of cheating they will have to ban all types of cheating. At this point I am certain that some SE mods are getting kickbacks from gil sellers and bot services because their Japanese salaries are pathetic.

>>716392949
They tried to stand their ground for 2 patches before utterly gutting the job because its unique gimmick made it too good in content with additional downtime like Ultimates.

>>716368784
I liked Bozja more because Lost Actions provided far more flexibility even for non CE activities.

remind me why erenville has a new outfit again
is it solely for his new beastmaster job? but he hasnt even done anything with beasest in 7.1 and ,2

>>716366692
What is your point? That WoW doesn't have a strict content moderation as people imply? Yeah, trade chat even in retail is just non-stop /pol/shit to this day.

>>716377506

When will Yoshit Piss release Speen lifesize sex doll?

>>716394139
>SPEEN LISTEN TO ME! command triggers Sphene doll's pussy to clench your dick harder
Imagine...

>>716393928
Remember when Yoshi-P and the Dev Team nerfed Monk because Raiders found a better rotation than the devs? Or how about closing the DPS gap by remove synergies between classes due to varying damage types boosts like DRG's piercing debuff helping BRD. Man it's almost as if the devs have a history of actively dumbing the game down and have a logical path from ARR to DT where dumbing down was always the plan if you looked at the design.

>>716390303
>Mensab and Seu
Based. But no one in SE has even a fraction of Nihei's talent. They probably wouldn't have, even if they all were to have been put together. The company is in full outsourceslop mode, they no longer have actual content direction or talented designers and artists on board, they're throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks and it shows.

>>716393391
>>716393265
>The casuals did this!!!
>The raiders did this!!!
Meaningless tribalism. There are members of both groups responsible for the dismal state of job design; raiding parsetrannies are responsible for the 2 minute cringe meta and Pictomancer being neutered, hyper-casuals are responsible for healers being lobotomized and Summoner being turned into a 1 button job.
And even then, these are just the most extreme outliers of their respective complaints being adressed. Some of the complaints of the respective groups were valid, and have lead to an overall better game.
Some homogenization is good, like letting all tanks have gapclosers, because those without would just feel like total ass to play comparatively; or not having one tank being completely useless against certain types of damage (like HW Paladin).
Similarly, it's perfectly reasonable to have at least one braindead-easy-to-play job per role so that retards can contribute without shitting up your DF/PF experience.
The issue that lead to the current, absolute state of jobs lies with the implementation, which is the fault of the developers. They applied the simplification to every job instead of just a select few (and even there, they should've made the new job of each role the simple one, rather than gutting jobs that have enjoyed some degree of complexity for 8+ years), meaning there are no jobs left to enjoy for people with a triple-digit IQ; similarly, they homogenized nearly every aspect of job design instead of just a few critical ones so they could have an easier time developing their interchangable DDRslop fights (which is another issue entirely, but I'm sperging out as is), leading to those braindead jobs also feeling extremely similar.

>>716394391
>Raiders found a better rotation than the devs
Was that the legendary Dragon Kick rotation? I wasn't subbed back then so I missed that shitfest

Jap casuals ruined healers at least
They're actually love the changes, shitting on healers is only a na and eu thing

>>716365419 (OP)
>Wuk couldn't go more than one patch of not being the main focus before violently hijacking the story again

>>716394375
But thinking of Wuk makes me go limp.
What a price to pay

>>716394442
This guy gets it though I wouldn't even put the picto or healer design blame on either side given the history we have with the devs. This game was always going to be dumbed down harder than a baby with down syndrome. You fuckers are finally jaded because the story is shit. Excused this shit for multiple expansions because of a story and now that SE is truly approaching skeleton crew maintenance mode now you complain.

>>716394690
>and now that SE is truly approaching skeleton crew maintenance mode now you complain.
Yeah, no shit, why wouldn't we? Anyone should complain.

>>716394628
>Sex with Sphene (Unreal)
Sasuga Yoshida Naoik

>>716387694
Wuk is never becoming a Scion, characters far far far more popular than she could ever hope to be never became Scions, see Aymeric or even Hien, and Wuk is so disliked as a character in both the west and east they're not gonna piss off the community by making her a scion.
Sphene dying is a possiblity though and if its done it will be to give Wuk a moment and I will be fucking pissed if that actually happens.

>>716394690
story was gaslighting everyone into thinking game is ok since every NPC is sucking your WoL's dick but now that everyone started sucking Lamatee's huge furry cock the game became bad

>>716395029
>every NPC is sucking your WoL's dick
Yeah, after your character saves their fucking world and kills all the personifications of hurricanes and avalanches that threaten to tear them apart. No one had ever praised WoL for no reason and it never felt unearned. Especially in Shadowbringers, where you start as a literal who when it comes to the world and its people.

>>716394690
I wouldn't put all the blame for everything on the devs, but I agree there is a third type of job change idiocy that I didn't address, where the blame lies 100% with the devs; chief example of this would be what they did to Dark Knight, which was pre-emptively lobotimized for ShB because Yoshida thought that it would draw a lot of people for being the poster job of the expansion, so he decided to make it braindead just in case, even though the job design for DRK in SB was generally well-received.
This has continued to happen, the most prominent example being the removal of Kaiten and what they did to BLM in DT.
There's several instances of the devs gutting jobs seemingly randomly and unprompted, and I strongly suspect Yoshida is the culprit, seeing how FFXVI turned out. For some reason, he has convinced himself that games will only succeed if everything is reduced to the absolute lowest common denominator.
I don't know if the ShB DRK shit was an experiment and he thought ShB's success proved him right (which is beyond idiotic, ShB succeeded thanks to Ishikawa's excellent writing and WoW shitting the bed at the time) or if he was always intending to do this; I would think it's the latter, because HW was basically the diametrical opposite of that attitude.

>>716395349
>I would think it's the latter, because HW was basically the diametrical opposite of that attitude.
Mean "the former" here.

>>716394943
>no shit, why wouldn't we?
Too little too late? The time when the complaints could have mattered is long last gone because everything that was called out was deemed being a doomer or relegated to a made up tribal fight between games others didn't like. Complaining now when the cement has long settled is a waste of time because SE is never going to jackhammer the foundation to fix the game now.

>>716395349
>removal of Kaiten
holy shit move the fuck on Kaiten wasn't that interesting of a button

>>716394962
Every expansion so far had a new member join the main Scions
>HW: Alisaie
>SB: Estinien
>ShB: G'raha
>EW: Krile
Wuk is the definite leader of Tural, so she is in the same situation as Aymeric and Hien. A politician that has better things to do.
You can't tell me Erenville is gonna be a Scion, he's a total nothingburger of a character.
Sphene is the only good option.

>>716395531
I don't give two shits about Kaiten itself. But it's the perfect example of what I was talking about. They supposedly have two or three people actively working on job design, why waste their extremely limited, valuable time on removing this one inconsequential button and rebalancing SAM around that removal, while other jobs like MCH were eating shit at the time and desparately needed attention? It only makes sense if you're on a crusade to eliminate any perceived complexity from jobs (which Kaiten didn't really add in the first place, but that's neither here nor there).

>>716395940
>words words words
fuck off nigger nobody cares about kaiten

>>716396150
You evidently do, you obsessed retard.

>>716396220
N-NO I DON'T! I DON'T CARE, I DON'T! STAHP IT! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>716395536
>Sphene is the only good option.
Agreed, but I can also see them taking the hack way and kill her for a dramatic story, I hope not, but there are also chances she'll just be around to help Gulool Ja rule.
>You can't tell me Erenville is gonna be a Scion, he's a total nothingburger of a character.
yes but he got the biggest cheers at the last fanfest when the trailer was shown, the women loves him and he will stay.