HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

https://youtu.be/5tRTPczdVk8?list=RD5tRTPczdVk8&t=129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spBYKRPlx6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkrtO3wnuuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mgGSICq6F0

What's behind this?

>>716368068 (OP)
I don't get it

there was a group chat dedicated to making fun of people pointing out toby fox is a hack and copies all the stuff that makes his stuff popular
that group chat dissolved after all the mods trooned out but they left their mark, now you get made fun of for criticizing toby fox in any way, as he is always right

holy based

>>716368125
Undertale looks like shit on purpose to be disarming. It can look good when it wants to. It also gives the game a unique visual style and serves as a cost saving measure.

>>716368125
What the lack of background detail?

Cause the actual sprites themselves aren't great

TOBYSAARS.......... OUR RESPONSE?

>>716368068 (OP)
And TV Time song samples SNES TMNT... So fucking what?

>>716368268
.

>>716368268
>I'm from a group of exclusively trannies who were clearly entirely mentally ill but I will continue to carry their torch (mental illness) regardless

You really need to think about this. Like sit in a big arm chair in the dark and just think about this.

blatant incel shill thread

>>716368268
Im pretty sure its because anyone who isnt a retard knows that music sampling and referencing isnt plagiarism. Of course corpo cocksuckers on /v/ will claim it is.
Not only that but it is a trend that people who seethe over Toby Fox are fucking mentally ill

Its been more than decade since undertale. Youre not going to convince people hes a plagiarist because he isnt.

>>716368068 (OP)
I was expecting it to be more tone deaf retardery where someone insists Toby copied a song that sounds absolutely nothing like his own but wow these are actually the same songs
Still not going to agree with the aforementioned other guy who thinks Battle Against a True Hero copied the fucking TGAA pursuit theme lol.

>>716368125
obsessed

>>716368125
Look, you can make fun of Undertale for a lot of things - spaghetti code, pretentiousness, poorly written lesbians...but the sprites are hardly worth bitching about. They convey what they need to convey, and that's more than a lot of pixelshit games can claim.

oh no he "stole" 5 notes from another song

call the national guard

>>716368602
he is unoriginal though

Why does Toby so frequently get singled out for this when fucking everyone does it
Why don't I see threads about Koji Kondo being a hack?

>>716368658
Not this schizo guy.
Even as a fan I can't fucking comprehend you giving a pass to possibly one of the real, tangible complaints about Undertale. It looks like shit.
It's basically 1:1 with Toby Fox's art and thus a complete translation of his creative vision etc. But it looks like ass, man.

>>716368125
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/KbSHO_iI4gkOu7KhO2GiOw/
what is behind this

>>716368068 (OP)
He's one of the chosen anon...

>>716368125
intentionally looks like shit

>>716368846
this dude has been spamming it
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3hwP25TVdY8VLtR9w7cX4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAfOwwEcgFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkUdkCPDuHc
>plagiarism, japan = :O

>>716368068 (OP)
Undertale was literally a psyop from the keyboard player in Genesis

>>716368068 (OP)
Tobias Fox is so talented that he makes me want to do anything even less than I already did (which wasn’t a lot)

>>716369181
Plagiarism is generally shunned in the west, yes.

>>716368068 (OP)
But OP, that’s called INSPIRATION!
It’s totally different from just blatantly copying the music and editing slightly, which yes it’s what he did and all. BUT he’s Jewish and that means it’s not “plagerism” when he does it.

>>716368068 (OP)
Has he ever played an instrument live or on video? Has anyone ever witnessed him play an instrument?

>>716369181
None of that is plagiarism you zoomer fucktard.

>>716369586
not any more or less than toby, alex

>>716369525
There's plenty of videos of him playing piano live back in the Homestuck days, in fact his exploding wrists are partly because he's self-taught growing up instead of learning how to play properly.

>>716368125
yeah

I was gonna make a joke saying "Toby Fox? More like Toby Cocks!" But then I realized this thread is utterly retarded and it's better to save this gold for a thread of higher quality.

I was gonna make a joke saying "Toby Fox? More like Toby Cocks!" But then I realized this thread is utterly retarded and it's better to save this gold for a thread of higher quality.

>>716368068 (OP)
damn if that's what he's gonna be stealing from for shit like pushing buddies he should keep getting away with it tbqhwydesu

>>716369790
>>716369847
This is exactly how Toby Fox "makes" his music.

>>716368823
Everything has already been done, nothing new under the sun

>NOOOOOOOOOO SOUNDS CAN'T BE VAGUELY SIMILAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KWAB. You retards have been posting this shit for a decade now.

>>716369932
awesome way to think loser

>>716370032
Its how the world works

>>716368846
We used to have plenty about Koji but Nintendo fags have become genuinely schizophrenic and now actively shit on every thread that's even slightly critical of Nintendo

Also no one really glazes Koji as much as they do Toby for being the "best ever master auteur composer"

>>716368068 (OP)
First is a coincidence, second is obviously a reference. Undertale/Deltarune wouldn't exist without Mother. TobyFox started off making an Earthbound romhack.

So this is the peak of indie creativity.. sugoi..

>>716368658
Actually true.
Underdeltatalerune's art isn't a masterpiece but it's clean. There's so many pixelslop games out there that just look like a fucking mess. I would take "simple and clean" over "complex clusterfuck" every time.

You think if you spent less time shitting your pants over someone else's success, you would have found success for yourself by now?

ok Thor
You're just a copycat

>>716370505
wrong schizo. this is Alex Yard

>>716370548
Have you ever seen Alex Yard and FerretFucker in the same room at the same time though?

>>716370242
>no Spamton
Truly the best character.

>>716368125
watch out he'll steal that cityscape sprite

>>716369790
>>716369847

>>716368068 (OP)
Reminder: Toby having a preggo Megumin bodypillow is actually confirmed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5E4_uFYFJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7O_3592AmI

>>716368068 (OP)
Why is Nintendo afraid to just make a modern Earthbound? I do not understand. They would literally print money

>>716368125
Undertale is proof that aesthetic sense is superior to technical ability. The most technically impressive art in the world is still shit if you aren't cleanly drawing the eye to areas of interest.

>>716370849
Earthbound was distinctly 90s, that was its charm. It was a reference to books and movies that were popular at the time, Stephen King, Lost in Space, etc. Everyone who remembers that era of sci-fi is now an old man. Furthermore, the entire thing was Itoi's brainchild, and\ he isn't interested in any more sequels. The series won't be the same and won't have any soul without his input.

>>716370849
They did that with 3, and it will get shitcanned in the west if they do a rerelease.

>>716370849
Itoi literally stopped making video games and Nintendo doesn't have the balls to shit on his legacy.
It's not like the Mother games were hyper-successful, they were always niche. Not a lucrative IP to exploit.

>only good part of undertale was the music
>he ripped it all off from other people
talentless dog fucker

>>716371098
I mean what you're describing is also technical ability. Art and technique overlap.

>>716368623
rent free

>>716371482
Yeah, Toby Fox lives rent free in that guy's head

>>716370603
But ironically a copycat in universe

>>716368068 (OP)
>it's ok to plagiarize and steal if you're jew
yeah I'm not too surprised

>>716371792

Andrew? Andrew Hussie? Is that you?
Andrew, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.
You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.
Nobody will remember Andrew Hussie. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
In short, you are an enormous failure.
Andrew, being that you're about 35 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.
The abhorrent failure that is MS Paint Adventures, Andrew Hussie, that is your legacy.
Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Andrew, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.
Maybe in a couple of years, Andrew, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.
I genuinely doubt it.
Now excuse me, I have to work on Deltarune chapter 5. My accountant estimates over sixty million dollars in sales.

>>716368068 (OP)
If you don't want him to "keep getting away with it" report his game for implying rape. It's doing wonders these past few days.

Alright, be real with me. What was your first reaction on *this* scene?

>>716372617
"Huh. Cute Toriel sprites, Temmie"

>>716371961
I want to know more about this Hussie fella. What did he do for him to have a schizo like this that I can see almost every thread? I think the idea of him being a loser isn't far fetched since all I know is that he made homestuck, which doesn't have a good first impression..

>>716372761
Christian Crafting?

>>716372617
Confusion at what was happening.
Then shocked realization.
Then visceral disgust for Sans and Toriel, and genuine sympathy for Kris and Susie.
Seriously, once it registered what this scene was trying to convey, I was deeply uncomfortable (Kris and Susies reactions only added to it).

>>716372761
everything fell apart and hussie was (maybe still is) in debt because of how terrible he is at running a business. many of us are still butthurt at him because of how hard he ran homestuck into the ground.

>>716372761
Hussie basically ruined his comic and become so mentally ill from dealing with the comic that he's now a "clown gendered e-boy" in his fucking mid 40s.

>>716372617
At first I just thought it was awkward, until I realized it meant she didn't at any point try calling Kris or the Hollidays to make sure they were okay when he didn't get back home that late. Continuing the partying (and "partying") while Kris was trying to sleep made me want to throw her and Sans in front of a truck.
But thinking about it further made me start thinking she's legitimately the ringleader for what Kris is doing. With how much she freaked out over him being late in chapter 1, no way she wouldn't be out there looking for him herself instead of partying if she didn't know what Kris was really doing that chapter.

>>716372943
Bit boring of an explanation but I get the gist of it, andrew fucked it up and fans are angry at him.
>>716373213
This is vile.

>>716370831
>dagasi

>>716372617
I was spoiled on the whole meme of Sans fucking ur mom and shit and thought it would be funny.
Then I saw Kris & Susie embarrased and having Susie leave at Toriel calling her Asriel was devastating.

>>716370831
>dagasi

>>716370849
Nintendo only plays it safe now. They're pussies lol

>>716373313
The fall of Andrew Hussie is almost as fascinating as Homestuck as a comic.
The reason I think Toby won't fail with Deltarune is because Toby first-hand saw Andrew Hussie become a fucking shell of himself and saw the fucking catastrophe that was the comics finale.

So far Toby has delivered. But everything really does hinge on how he ends it.

>>716373370
>>716373463
>dagasi

>>716372761
He began delegating the majority of the work in his webcomic to other people because he was too out of it after his dad died, tried hard to appeal to the tumblr side of his then-audience whereas before he could've just shat on them without hesitating, and eventually ended up making terrible business and writing decisions (see >>716372943) that caused both Homestuck and the spinoff game that was being crowdfunded back then, Hiveswap (even if that wasn't entirely his fault since the initial devs basically fucked off with most of the money) to flop and become completely irrelevant almost overnight, especially after the second half of Homestuck (Act 6 onwards) was plagued with hiatuses, retarded writing and asspulls, blatant pandering and ultimately the least satisfying "ending" you could ask for. He released another game later (Psycholonials) but it was completely forgettable and he's pretty much disappeared from the public eye since then.

>>716368068 (OP)
There are real instances of plagiarism in Undertale, like the motif ripped 1:1 from that Kirby spinoff. None of these are plagiarism

>>716373313
hussie fucked over a lot of people and there's plenty of horror stories that people have told. right now he's a reclusive schizo that refuses to directly communicate with people and sends out "popes" to be a middleman.

>>716373572
>even if that wasn't entirely his fault since the initial devs basically fucked off with most of the money
it was actually
https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2021/01/14/more-on-the-hiveswap-odd-gentlemen-debacle/index.html

>>716369513
Toby is Christian

>>716370831
Proof?

https://youtu.be/DstO9slC_5U
https://youtu.be/Hs6aFnJw9j0
oh no no no tobias bros

>>716373769
https://youtu.be/pSDo3cAtaSs?si=jpmXXvm2RG9k2s8x&t=21

>>716368068 (OP)
I fucking hate this faggot freak.

>>716374035
while the percussions are almost identical, the music was mostly inspired by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouf151l7mSs

Hey so why did the janitors repeatedly destroy these threads when people are trying to talk about the game itself? Why not just ban individuals who post off topic. Ban the people derailing the thread with their own shit

>>716375127
not a cultural phenom like smash, or their pet twitter/ai/ragebait drek. that means it's be smushed on sight, and end up making it last beyond its usual expo dates.

>>716375127
utdr threads became:
>drawthreads but just for undertale
>discord invite dumping grounds
>porn dumps that got sent to the /trash/-realm
>the same posts over and over again (this is what gets you flagged as a general, not just linking the next thread)
>"gendershit" drama

>>716368068 (OP)
>oh no, he used a similar melody!
>oh no, he used a similar sound font!
No one gives a shit.

>>716375425
hi janjan

>>716368068 (OP)
Literally who?

>>716375425
dont forget people roleplaying popular x posts here

>>716375425

>>716375425
>>drawthreads but just for undertale
drawfagging rarely happens
>>discord invite dumping grounds
??????? what the fuck are you talking about
>>porn dumps that got sent to the /trash/-realm
When?
>>the same posts over and over again (this is what gets you flagged as a general, not just linking the next thread)
Only because you're not engaging with the threads and just skimming to the end, yawning and deleting them
>>"gendershit" drama
Forced only by spitefaggots like OP and you who deletes deltarune threads except the ones that start this shit

Kill yourself

>>716376086
>??????? what the fuck are you talking about
Probably about Temmiefag (who, by the way, was never seen in Deltarune threads since the release).

>>716375425
Maybe ban those people who are doing those individual things instead of actually talking about the game. I haven't been here for long enough but isn't this board specifically for talking about video games? like deltarune

I didn't realize /v/ was in such a dire state. What happened? When did this begin?

>>716376959
idk. none of these fuckers are real and proper threads resume every once in a while

>>716376959
The Visa/MC shit going on right now is attracting very particular groups of people to this board. Hopefully they don't stick around after it blows over.

>>716376959
Less than a week after the game released, AI general and the same ragebait threads repeated are allowed to hit 700 posts though

>>716371098
>Undertale is proof that aesthetic sense is superior to technical ability.
And toby/temmie have neither

>>716376894
He can't ban them because most of them only exist in his imagination.

>>716376959
/v/ was one of the first places on the internet, and now /v/ is full of contratian troons who pretend it was never popular here

>>716370242
Sariel is the only bad one

>>716368068 (OP)
He also stole....er......got inspired by tokyo mew mew

>>716372761
Homestuck was the original UT/DR, but Toby is smart enough to not shit the bed in the final arc.

A bad artist copies, a great artist steals.

>>716371098
>Need to constantly have your hand held by the artist to enjoy the work
You're the reason why most artists have mcdonalds-tier complexity in their pieces. High art is dead

Good artists copy
great artists steal

I will admit tho his crappy MIDI tracks are far inferior to their Japanese inspirations.

But WHY is the pipis a freshwater clam?

>>716377898
This has been happening every time something gets a little too popular on /v/, it’s like clockwork. First it’s unironic hype, then the ironic shitposting, and then the newfags who missed the zeitgeist show up years later and pretend the place always hated it. We saw it with Undertale, we saw it with DMC5, even Elden Ring to an extent. The board is in a constant state of cultural amnesia, and the loudest voices are always the ones trying to rewrite the past.

>mfw we will never have dr threads as good as the launch week
>mfw summer is over and will have to go through a whole school year without dr posting and pedo trump steering things to shit

>>716369638
Well I'm not OP, but I notice you zoomer fucktards have a weird obession with thinking samples, or similar or even exact same melodies in a portion of a song is plagiarism, and you have to be fucking stupid to think that, because you can easily find millions of examples out of any media.

Im not a deltaroon fan but i came here to say that taking inspiration from something isnt plagiarism, toby fox is a genius it doesnt matter if he came up with something on his own (he most likely did) or if he stole it, which by the way great artists steal, bad artists copy

>>716373478
>But everything really does hinge on how he ends it.
Its nearly impossible for Toby to JUST his life as bad as Hussie did. He already made enough money to never really have to work again with Undertale.

>>716383245
why does all talk about toby have to orbit around his financial success? we are talking about him fucking up the deltarune ending and how hussie bussie fucked up, i dont care if toby is a billionaire or if he kills himself immediately after deltarune ends as long as he doesnt fucking make it a prequel to undertale or some other hack-y bullshit
fucking cocksucker

>>716383635
I thought we were talking about and comparing him to the fall of Andrew Hussie, in which his financial failures turned him into a 40 year old schizo e-boy.

>>716368268
Not reading all that shit, just getting under the line desu