Thread 716401716

Is it just me, or are these threads less popular than they used to be? Are fewer people trying to become indies?

I'm about to drop a demo on steam and have less than 140 wishlists... Is it over /v/ros? Do demos help?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3595850/City_of_Spells/

>>716401834
bump

Made some inventory progress
>improved navigation on the grid
>load 3d models on demand
>fixed lighting on 3d model
>can manually spin the 3d model with the right stick
still a lot of work left here but it's coming along
>>716401716 (OP)
>Is it just me, or are these threads less popular than they used to be?
I made one the other dfay and it got lots of progress posting, at least on the first 150 posts or so. It's summer, so things might be going slower for many because of that.
>>716401834
good luck with the demo! always liked your char design, the protag is a qt3.14

>>716401834
I'm not sure if demos help sales, but I think they help get more eyes on your stuff, it also means your game gets 2 visible spots on the store.
but I would recommend to stop hoping for getting back the 100$ steam fee

>>716401834
>>716402140
Successful indie devs have social media accounts and shill campaigns, and no 4chan doesn't count

Every time I look at other languages or frameworks, I keep returning monogame.

vehicle sale stuff

>>716402537
Thanks! I'm hoping I can get picked up by some steamers potentially.
>>716402648
I tried shilling it on reddit and got chewed out for using AI in my dialogue system

>>716404872
>I tried shilling it on reddit and got chewed out for using AI in my dialogue system
People should praise innovative use of modern tools instead of going against them, the damnluddites. Don't feel bad because of them anon.

>>716401834
140 wishlists is dead on arrival. You absolutely should do a next fest if you can (and you'll need a demo for that)

Still working on my computer game, but better opportunities have sprung up and I seek to take them. Consequently, development has temporarily slowed down.

>>716406051
>but better opportunities have sprung up
tell us more senpai

Followed this through and his other video about making some trees, fireplace and a night scene from scratch. Enjoyed them, now I'm doing more tilesets from different materials and figuring out how to do multiple floors with ladders and stairs.

any tips on making an interactive ui? i wanna have my buttons react when i hover over them but im a brainlet who hasn't really touched ui coding beyond java swing.

>>716401834
Demos are a double edged sword, nintendo held off on releasing one for star fox zero because they knew they had a stinker on their hands, it was only after it bombed that they released one, and after playing it it made me not even want to pirate the full game, on the other hand, the Haste demo made me pirate the full game
>>716402595
The project turboblast demo actually made me want to buy the game, even though I find playing racing games on a keyboard physically painful

>>716406161
I love this dude's videos.

I'm having too much fun taking screenshots of this map and then turning them into 'found footage' stills

>>716405881
Yeah, it's pretty demoralizing working on a game nobody will play.

>>716406548
They're my favorites, shame he hasn't uploaded in a while but what he has done gets anyone started.

>>716406145
In a world where 25% of my generation can't even fathom getting a decent job, I have that chance. The government was only a temporary solution.

>>716411162
That's not a person...THAT IS NOT A FUCKING PERSON!

>>716401716 (OP)
don't want my game associated with this sewer
people feel high and mighty when they tear you down, and I refuse to let them taint my hobby that I actually enjoy
discussion culture here is even more dead than on the rest of the internet

Bolt 45. This one took an extremely long time to finish but there are now only 2 enemy weapons left to design.

>>716412165
>minigun with oversized novelty revolver attachment
>belt feeds into revolver cylinder
nani the FUCK

Let's just have fun, I'm chipping away at the art assets for an arcade concept.

>>716412165
That looks neat, man.

>>716401716 (OP)
>Is it just me, or are these threads less popular than they used to be?
I stopped posting in these threads when you guys started spamming them every day.
I dunno if you still spam them every day but the experience soured me enough to not bother for the next 1-2 years.

>>716412415
The rotary component is the same for both the minigun and the revolver, but the revolver cylinder chambers hold grenades for the lower barrel. Think like an M32A1. The linkages feed from the ammo drum at the back-top (the "bottom of the handle" if you picture it like an upside down revolver) like on an M61.

>>716412427
GRAND DAD

>>716401716 (OP)
I enter to /v/ for short periods of time, so most of the time I miss this gamedev threads. I don't chat too much, I mostly spend the time working in my project and I post my progress on twitter mostly. The last weeks I was busy figuring out how to make custom gravity on Unity... and it pay off.

my project down taken down from itch because of the NSWF purge from yesterday so there is no point in continuing to work on it.

>>716414763
I want to sex the nun

>>716414763
what's your twitter?

>>716412427
soul

>>716401716 (OP)
The money cucks got filtered

>>716416652
what does this mean anon

>>716416437
Have this goofy GIF

>>716416267
https://x.com/RM120_

>>716412427
that's the good shit

recycling the slots from my previous project :)
hope it looks fine

>>716416725
it means they were making goon slop and now they can't make money from it.
True gooners do it for free.

>>716412427
ah, finally some soul!

Getting shrimp game rdy for next fest

>>716418289
>Descent but it's shrimps
does it have a single-player campaign? if so, sign me in

>>716418474
yessir anon
I'm working on it as we speak... it'll be co-op too
You begin in this desolate hubworld where a mask on a giant TV instructs you you'll need to enter [dungeons] to bring back [elemental stones] to rejuvenate the hub world. There are retarded and asshole and friendly shrimp NPCs that help / hurt you on your journey too

>>716419012
I like it! post the steam page please, I want to wishlist

>>716412881
this is so dumb and cool at the same time, love it

>>716401716 (OP)
Trying to come up with good ideas for LSD jam this year. Don't really want to just clone the game, but coming up with alternative control schemes is difficult.
There was one I played that used mario kart controls, which was cool. If anyone has ideas I'd appreciate it.

>>716412881
nice
>>716419075
thanks anon
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2824880/SHRIMP_GAME/

>>716401716 (OP)
>Are fewer people trying to become indies?

The gold rush really seems to be in it's final days, market is so flooded now with flops that maybe people are re-evaluating what they're doing. You go to plebbit and see just how many games are in the works and then compare to your own and think how is my game any different? Also the wave of people who lost their tech jobs and thought they would make the next lethal company with a few months of work are probably burnt out already.

I'm rethinking whether I should continue with VR development, I really don't have the time to put out assets with the amount of detail that I would like to have for VR and it seems like PC VR is dead anyways.

>>716419687
I'll make sure to try the next fest demo. If I like it I'll shill it in some places.

Writing speed tables manually can make shit looks really goofy.
Use math to generate em if you want realism, but don't if you want to look like a kid playing with an action figure.

>>716417235
>>716418289
Thanks fellas. Trying this time because it's such a simple concept, started reading through GameMaker's manual online. Unfortunately wraparound is a mess at the moment with my guy falling through the floor.

>>716420297
glad to see you are still at it MSX bro

>>716421118
Not been very active because real life work, but still touching it from time to time.
I want this zombie dude to be more like the skeletons from castlevania, but also be able to jump as the penguin has a long range weapon.

spoop

>>716408863
then stop working on it and move on with another project

Bought a (second hand) Rokoko mocap suit this week and did some testing today. The Unity plugin is janky as fuck. It works, but not with custom blend shapes. The remapping script is fucked and now I have to send in a support ticket.

>>716423361
>i want to play a game with you. it's pretty simple, you must press the button that has a skin color, pressing it release you from the contraption, but if you press the pink one, you die.
>you will be looking at the buttons thru this NTSC camera

>>716424036
damn that's gay

>>716424128
at least he's not making me find a key hidden under a beige patch of tape stuck to a random wall somewhere down here

Been working on a survivors like. Put in the foundations of the upgrade system today but webm from yesterday.

>>716425420
ganbate anon. If it were me I'd put some kind of spin on it, like how Puzzle Quest is a puzzle game on top of an RPG.

>>716424697
Yep

>>716424327
Tell me about it. Rokoko support is like rolling a nat 1 every time you need help. Had a buddy spend two weeks just trying to get finger tracking synced with his model before giving up and turning it into a static puppet rig instead. Honestly might be easier to just keyframe the damn thing by hand if you're only doing short loops.

>>716401716 (OP)
>Are fewer people trying to become indies?
Posting on 4chan in general has died down as this website becomes increasingly full of retarded 3rd worlders and faggot culture warriors who don't care about anything other than regurgitating political buzzwords they learned on twitter.

>The best performing gdscript code is 100x slower than C++, 10x slower than C#.
chat is this true?

>>716402537
your game actually looks good anon I’d love to play it

>>716406247
What fucking tech stack are you using? Learn how to ask for help.

>>716427726
Yeah, it's pretty slow. Performance critical code should use GDNative for native performance. But just some game logic does not need any speed.

>>716427726
Yes and it doesn't matter in the slightest because all the rendering under the hood is still C++ and even a 100x slowdown of behavior scripts compared to C++ is meaningless for video games.

>>716426751
I have some ideas for that I'm just working on getting the basic structure up. Should be easier to experiment with that ground work done.

>>716427726
>>716428161
>>716428445
Game code is like an onion. there's layers of "how many times per second this thing is running".
Stuff that runs only once or once per frame you don't need to optimize like a madman, but you should make it as readable as possible.
Stuff that runs a thousand times per frame you start to worry about optimization.
Stuff that runs a million times per frame you should consider shoving on the GPU somehow.

>>716427726
godot isnt a serious engine. its for people to larp as game developers.

>>716429084
Nah its fine.
If what you're doing is 2D, you should not even consider something like unity.
3D you should.

>>716427915
raw glsl and C++ but im willing to use anything

>>716429084
people love to say this while actual games have been made with it that are making actual money unlike whatever the fuck you’re making

>>716429084
Ah let me guess you're too smart to use godot but too stupid to make xir own engine.

>>716430209
Correctamundo

>>716429589
>people love to say this while actual games have been made with it that are making actual money
Name 3

>>716430708
Cruelty Squad
Buckshot Roulette
Dome Keeper
Brotato
Case of The Golden Idol
Etc etc

>>716428932
You profile your game, and optimize the worst offenders in ways that make sense. You won't optimize a code path that runs millions of times per frame if it only takes 0.0000002ms to execute.

>>716430814
Thanks, anon! That makes me feel a lot better about Godot.

>>716430814
>not a single AAAA game
doesn't count.

>>716431086
And you're working on an AAAA game?

>>716430814
Absolutely grim.

>>716431218
Got my team of LLMs working on it right now.

>>716431269
What’s grim about it? The fact that you haven’t done shit?

Anyone here got this "letter"?

and if you got it what did you do?

what it's about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us6IKKOZWi8

>>716431731
Nothing, because the lawsuit is so encompassing I'd maybe get about $20 bucks out of it.

>>716431731
>>716431882
>tfw I set up my page in 2024 December
Can't believe I missed out on free money...

>>716427804
thanks anon, I'd also love for you to play it

>>716431731
I got something like this, ignored it. If you say nothing they sue on your behalf, but valve isn't going to ban all 200m people rolled in to this.
I really have no interest in getting more involved with the store front I publish my shit on, best that neither side knows I exist in this case.

>>716401716 (OP)
These threads are just not as good as they used to be and them being too frequent for some time contributed to that.

>>716420064
I think the biggest problem is that so many people are doing it to try to be the next 'big thing', doing it more for money than passion. A tale as old as time.

I think if you imagine a situation where you make 0 money then you'll enjoy the process more

>>716401834
the demo is supposed to help discovery right? Try Next Fest

>>716434182
I agree. That's what I'm doing and it lets me focus on stuff I find fun rather to appeal to market trends, all while having fun developing a game with 0 pressure. Thing is you need a job or some other way to support your hobby, and I can understand anons going in for the money if they don't have any other influx of money.

>>716434417
Yeah regarding the no other income, there is almost literally no worse choice to make money when you have none than gamedev right now - either indie or professional. Maybe photography is worse, but you would legit be better to just get a job in a grocery store and you'd probably make more there in a week than you would in a lifetime of gamedev

>>716434784
>you'd probably make more there in a week than you would in a lifetime of gamedev
Out of probability? yeah, for sure. Releasing a game is kinda like playing the lottery: you might won big time, but you probably won't. That's why I think it's best to just do it for fun and make something you really love or want to play. The industry is already full of greedy companies that only look for the money, and it would be sad if the same happened to indie devs.

So do adult game devs now have to implement some face id scan fuckery for the United Kingdom cucks or wha?

>>716431731
>>716431882
If you do nothing you automatically you are suing Valve. If you dont want to be part of the lawsuit then you need to opt out by filling up your credential.

>>716435035
Exactly. If you're rolling the dice anyway, might as well at least enjoy the game you’re making while you’re likely not getting paid. Chasing trends just turns you into a poor man's version of a worse game. At least if you make your weird little passion project, you get the satisfaction of making something you care about-even if only 5 people play it. And those 5 might love it way more than 5,000 who barely noticed your soulless roguelite deckbuilder farming sim.

>>716414763
My only gripe with this is how the back of the gun's slide, where the hammer is supposed to strike, is just a slab blank stretched texture. Hell, even the gun's slide doesn't look like it would recoil upon firing.
I know it's stylized art, but had to point this out. Even CS1.6 from 1999 had a texture at the back of the slide and a moving slide.
t. /k/

>>716436284
he can't texture he just took a photo of a deagle and used it as the side plane texture

>>716436482
Yeah that's obviously the case but at least finish up that side of the gun because it's awful to look at.

By the way, I can't texture for shit either, but generally how is one supposed to texture items like say guns, cars, plants, furniture...etc?

As far as I'm aware the usual method is using photos of stuff, making them seamless, then placing them onto where they're needed on the model. Like plants would use the green smooth texture of stems, photos of leaves stretched onto a leaf UV map, and furniture would be straight-up seamless textures of wood, plastic...etc.
How about guns or cars then? That's much harder to pull off.

>>716437086
Depends a lot on how detailed your model is and if you have normal maps or not. With a high fidelity model you can basically slap pbr materials on it and it will look right. With lower fidelity you need to paint the detail in the textures which can be achieved in various ways. With guns it's common to use pictures of the real things to texture them. You could do the same for cars in theory. Requires some image editing of course.

>>716435393
No, they'd just have to make normal games like Kameo for the Bongs.

GameMaker can't depth sort for shit, so I have to sort vertices in the model itself, and Blender doesn't really let you do that reliably. If I don't do that, the non-opaque parts would overwrite anything behind them. This workflow sucks, but so far the result looks nice with additive blending.

>>716439814
>3D in GameMaker
best of luck anon

>>716420064
>The gold rush really seems to be in it's final days,
The gold rush ended with Steam Greenlight retard, we're smack dab in the middle of the dark ages, where success is entirely algorithm driven, and the algorithm only promotes shitty gambling-like trash or "fun with friends" slop.

>>716440686
If the game is really good people will end up finding about it.

>>716440859
Long after the dev has given up on gamedev entirely and it will max out at 300 reviews, remaining very niche at best. You have a very out of date view of the gaming market and culture nowadays. Nobody cares for passion or vision anymore, despite what /v/ says.

>>716441271
>Nobody cares for passion or vision anymore
Most people don't because most people are midwits. Cool gamers still care about it, and dare I say now more than ever since the AAA industry has abandoned them.

>>716441460
>Cool gamers still care about it, and dare I say now more than ever since the AAA industry has abandoned them
There's only like 50 "cool gamers" compared to 50 billion midwits. They're not exactly an audience you can sustain off. That's why most indie games appeal to the midwits. Devs want to eat too.

>>716439814
>gamemaker
>in 2025
lmao

>>716441612
turns out there's more midwits than people on earth

>>716441271
No, he>>716440859 is right because despite the huge number of games to play, most of them are appallingly bland(including some popular games) if not outright bad. Just make something unique and appealing and you'll get your due sooner(with marketing) or later(without marketing). The problem is that the most creative people(those who struggle with the puer aeterna) have difficulty finishing projects, therefore, most games are made by less creative people with proper work ethic, hence why most games nowadays are so drab and uninspiring.

Just for fun. Still, it’d be nice if there was some PC analog for Super Mario Bros so people didn’t have to depend on fan games that could be C&D’d. Oh well, what are you gonna do, hahaha.

>>716445184
I thought the PC analog was Commander Keen

Is Godot ok for making a short, pixelshit crpg-like game that takes place in a single dungeon?

>>716440859
Ah, yes, the classic "good game will always sell", where "good" always turns into "marketable" if you do a bit of inquiring. The market has changed, the competition is tighter, the bar is higher and there are fewer things people will put up with, because they have so many alternatives, many of them catered to their individual tastes. A good game isn't enough, it has to be amazing.

>>716445705
Yes, it even already includes A* pathfinding for your little niggas.

>>716439814
The background doesn't really look like it needs a whole lot of sorting. Have you considered splitting it into separate models that you'd draw in the order you need in the engine?

Loading tracks works (mostly) in my decomp project now.
https://github.com/Zizin13/Roller

>>716445927
on this, keep in mind you can call the A* class even without a nav mesh/navigation nodes, in case you want to do the calcs manually or just use the basic stuff without setting up all the stuff

>>716445927
>>716447668
What's the best way to learn Godot? I have very very basic bitch knowledge of programming
Any youtuber/book that you would reccommend?

>>716447794
Just start making the game you want using tutorials for everything you don't know how to do(i.e. everything). Then after getting a grasp on things, start over from scratch with your newfound skills because your frankenstien tutorial code game will be an awful mess.

>>716447794
>What's the best way to learn Godot? I have very very basic bitch knowledge of programming

Slap a camera in the scene, place some csg blocks to have something to look at, attach a script to the camera and then look up how to get keyboard inputs and then translate the camera to inputs. Best way to learn is to download a simple example project template and reverse engineer it. And read the documentation for basic node types in the engine.

Ok, who let in the faggerdaggers? They're not invited by virtue of being nodevs.

>>716401716 (OP)
Working on new subclasses and their ultimates.

>>716401716 (OP)
Keeping a thread around constantly and reposting it as soon as it dies, instead of letting it appear occasionally and organically, especially when you repost it with the same OP, same image, etc., effectively makes it a "general thread." And general threads attract people who aren't interested in discussing the thread topic alone but rather in socializing with a specific community for the sake of socializing, and it attracts schizos. The socializers/schizos proceed to drag the quality of the thread down with attentionwhoring and schizoposting and eventually everyone who would contribute good material avoids the threads.

It happened to /agdg/ on /vg/, then it happened to /gedg/ on /g/, and it's also happened to game dev threads on /v/ due to posting them TOO FUCKING OFTEN.

>>716451257
shut up faggot russian

>>716401716 (OP)
>Game devs
>Less popular
Because game devs went from the beloved crafters of the experiences we cherish, to sales reps for dog shit slop that ruin the games we love, to cliques of clueless clout goblins trying to be part of a scene.

making car paint

>>716452315
>No game fag is offended by facts

seeing the game dev thread get bumped every time it's about to die is one of the reasons why it's has gone to shit
people want it to be a general or something, just let it die baka

>>716456225
Not going to faggydaggy.

Sorry bros, I should have posted something today and contributed. Please forgive me.

Spent 3 days trying to implement the first weapon for my game. I failed miserably at understanding how to properly mirror angles when inverting the scale of the character. At least now I can just use the one working weapon as a base to build the other ones, things are gonna faster now unless I decide to make something too different that fucks everything up. I´ll likely do just that

>>716458859
>properly mirror angles when inverting the scale of the character

Dafug did i just read?

Fuck it, heres a progress update on my old people gamblecore roguelite, shop and passive items work, other systems are nicely in place, just need to think of and make like 100 items with my item system.
Just got my tooltips implemented, Still working on art assets for the super special background shader i made

I got really good at coding, but I have a problem: I dont know what game to make

I feel like any passion project would take more than a year to complete. Also think that anything remotely profitable would require good art

Any ideas on what game should I make? or any idea of a game you want to be made?

>>716452495
How do you work 15 years and save up nothing?

>>716460837
what sorta games do you like? is there a feature in those games that you think is missing? or something that you would tweak?

all games in this thread look like shit, there has never been one good game in this thread EVER AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT GIVE UP SUCKER YOUR WASTING TIME LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERRRRR LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSURRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>716441460
>Cool gamers
I chuckled a hearty chuckle at this one desu

>>716458467
Strange beast. Pretty strong for it's size, fur ball, mega reflexes, sleeps a lot, eats so much meat, doesn't need water, it's original form is basically invisible to its prey; cute af killer machine.
>how did it do it?

Does the nsfw ban on itch/steam effect blood and gore?

>have sound effect
>sounds fine if i only play it once
>sounds awful if i play it over and over
>but if i don't play it, the game feels really awkward since there's no sound besides music
what do i do here

heavy attack parried

morphing jam game into big kid version
jan 1st is when we can make 1 million?
over 1 million dollars on steam store....
1st place jam game =
1 million bucks

message me if you want to play it now

>>716466465
just play the game you guys
just sit back and press play the game

https://house2.neocities.org/page4

>>716466056
make a 3-4 similar sounds and randomize it

>>716466465
>>716466983
yeabuddy we're cringing at this one!

>>716463780
I like many genres
Dota2, Dont Starve, Stalker, Zomboid,Yugioh,Soulslike

Also Pokemon, Cult of lamb, Genshin, Recettear, Ys, Mirage Feathers

Usually something along the lines of dreadful complexity with small soulful interaction

The only things I would change about these games are small nuances that force you to play a certain way. Probably just add more customizable sliders for many of the features

he's going to get away with it isn't he?

>>716463537
because shes not a vet like she claims
shes one of those pests that managed to destroy the gaming industry in the west from within

mostly done with this new ability, it's an alternate attack combo that can be used alongside the normal attacks.

>>716467873
Nice.

>>716467328
cringe this
*starts dancing wicked fast*
say what?
*dances even faster*

>>716401834
Neat! I wishlisted this just now
I love supporting de/v/s

I've started trying to learn SDL and I feel so confused

>>716468105
yeabuddies...

>>716452343
cool looking game, the mini skill trees look fun
that font size is tiny will your game ship with a telescope
the random pixel sizes everywhere triggers me but I guess it's no big deal

Levelup screen.

Yes, finished some effects and animations for an ememy, no pictures again because NDA please understand one day I'll reveal who am i.

i for one just don't wanna post in these threads because i fucking HATE the thread culture agdg gets. it's always shit like "i've been working on this past week" and it's one square on a screen that can jump. every time i check these threads, everything looks like it's in pre-pre-pre-pre-prealpha and i never see these games come out.
especially when the post is like
>improved navigation on the grid
>Still working on my computer game, but better opportunities have sprung up
wow, thanks for the technical talk and blogposting you, bore me before i even played the fucking game

>>716470393
tldr?

>>716440859
300 review is like 3000 in sales, so if the price is 10$ you've made 15 000$
of course you need to adjust dev time and not spend more than 10 months fulltime on the game for this to make sense

>>716470545
first sentence

>>716470560
>he thinks you make 15k with a 10$ game that sells 3000 copies
lmao that's very optimistic

>>716470725
so what do you make?

>>716469514
>level up scream
Pig boy?

this seems like it treads "donut-steel" levels of "cool" but it this design lends too well to brainstorming combat maneuvers.

the idea is that you collect program disks to equip in your visor (defensive) or weapon (offensive)

>>716471221
aaaand ive just set up a system for generating these pinwheel flowers i'll be using lots of for visual flourish (:

i think the real way to make game is to design a simple level editor so that designing your game areas is simple

>>716471632
this takes time, I recommend using a engine or 3rd party map editor

>>716440859
This is an unfalsifiable claim and thus untrue.

>>716472041
go on steam and try finding a game with less reviews than it deserves

>>716472147
i know dozens

>>716472628
post some

>>716472767
why?
so you can go
>all shit
without playing them?

>>716472837
maybe, but I like browsing steam for obscure games even if they aren't good, so if you know any please post
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2734270/Sector_Unknown/
Found this game on its release a week ago, and the review count is steadily rising, so I think good work is usual rewarded on steam

>>716473156
ok here goes:
The Oldest Edda
Fish Fillets 2
Wispy Dreams
The Consuming Shadow
Streets of Fury
Comit the Astrodian
Willful
Deepwell
The Bridge
The Strange and Somewhat Sinister Tale (not on steam, freeware)
>even if they aren't good
The Risers

>>716427726
Yeah but in most cases that means 0.001ms vs 0.1ms, so literally does not matter in practice.
Performance shit seems scary in a vacuum, but when you notice that benchmarks often compare doing an operation a million times per frame, when you'll do it only once or twice, you realize it's often a meme comparison for autists.

>>716472147
how do you define something deserving more reviews?

if a game is truly good it spreads through word of mouth
if it isn't good enough to spread through word of mouth then does it deserve more reviews?

>>716473491
for the record i don't believe what >>716420064
said with
>The gold rush really seems to be in it's final days
or whatever bullshit he's saying. i just think it's absurd to claim all really good games will eventually get recognized. the entirety of art history proves you wrong

>>716473676
>if a game is truly good it spreads through word of mouth
why would that be the case?

>>716473734
a good game makes people want to tell their friends about it

>>716401716 (OP)
i dabbled in torque 3D in high school 2009
gave up on game dev right after since during that time it wasn't something that was going to pay my real and immediate bills

currently back in school studying architecture and running a landscaping business, hoping one day to transition back to the games industry as a hobby down the line. hard to make something fun when you are down in a hole literally and figuratively.

>>716473831
not really

>>716473969
I didn't mean (You) but people who have friends

>>716473491
fish fillets looks weird and interesting
commit the astrodian looks like autism kino
willfull looks ok
Will buy those when I get home

>>716474029
i have friends, i just don't share every single game i enjoyed with every single one of 'em

>>716473676
if you look at a steam storepage and think
>"What!? only 13 reviews?"
that's my criteria, I've have never experienced this

>>716474057
enjoy anon
really check out Oldest Edda if you like platformers. it's a bit janky but every level is pure fucking kino

>>716404872
>using AI in my dialogue system
Hope nobody will redeem your game.

>>716407087
What kind of game?

>>716405194
AI for mechanics 100% yes
for characters, it kinda just makes them more unrelatable

almost done

paintable cars

>>716434182
what if I don't really care about the money but am passionate about becoming a 'big thing' (I want plenty of people to play my gaym)

>>716466983
Nice style.

>>716456554
Ok

bump

>>716476765
Can other people paint them?
I want to be a serial dick drawer

Where do I find ideas for good & unique horror games?

>>716468209
thanks : )

>>716414763
youre probably one of the only yesdevs on agdg who has more than one game. Respect man.
engine?

>>716485775
What do YOU like personally? It’s not about the concept, it’s about the execution. And that’s bound to be better when it’s something you care about.

>Need to market game
>Try to post game literally anywhere
>"Fuck off shill"

>>716487984
if that's the reaction you get then in my mind it's one of two things
>you're doing it in the wrong place
>your game doesn't look appealing enough for people to care

>>716485775
what scares you?
expose yourself to that fear, feel it out, and understand what it really is at its core
the ideas will come

>>716419505
I was thinking of cloning ufo50’s mooncat, but with surreal graphics.

I have about 10 shelved projects that I’ll get a few months into and fizzle out on. I think I finally found the one I’ll want to commit to. Hopefully I can have it done by the year’s end.

>>716406051
Good news, so now you will never finish your turd.
Your "game will be in dev hell more than Bokube
At least now you have a job you useless Jeet

>>716489247
Same. I think I finally found something that is outstanding, so I'm abandoning my prior everything.

>>716489247
Many such cases. I am guilt of it too..

>>716489247
you have to commit to finishing something

Will peopel boycott my game if I use a little bit of AI here and there?

>>716487984
I posted my game in a few other threads and people asked for the Steam link. Too bad I don't have one lmao

>>716492301
Well that's a good sign. Time to set up a Steam page.

>>716486561
Unity

>>716402537
Hmm, this tickled my Monster Rancher 2 memory.
SOUL

>>716486561
>5 Omnigon games
>3 Automon games
>3 Lil Red games
I see glazers are also liars.

>>716488828
I see you fellow mooncat enjoyer. I've seen people describe the game as "learning how to walk again". I might look into something like that, as it kind of already has strange visuals for a pseudo-NES game.

>>716490762
No but you will get people turning your game page into a discussion about AI ethics, which is just annoying. My advice is to trace the AI art, or if its VA stuff just hold off until you get money to hire some rando on fiverr.

>>716488828
Cool, I have dibs on the Min&Max clone.

>>716490021
Project hopping is healthy for gamedev. My previous side projects have been helping my current project immensely.

reminder to set your itchio revshare to 0%

Repeat after me, NO FUTURE

>>716466056
You could do >>716467251, but generally it's easier to just play the same sound effect each time but tweak the pitch, in engine,slightly each time the sound effect plays. Usually for variations of pitch is enough.

>>716496215
Ruffy always looked like SHIT to me. Osh's game mogs it real hard. The other one is a platformer with worse graphics than the Mega Drive.

>>716496190
qrd?

>>716498585
devs are protesting the porn ban by not giving itch anything

>>716498856
Itch can't do anything about the payment processors though

trying out some fonts. Went for Cinzel for titles and Merriweather for the rest. Looks medieval but not retro enough? I dunno if I like them or not, not sure.

>>716498970
go to your local grocery and ask them what they would do if visa demanded they stop selling pork

>>716498970
I think it might also be because they cancelled all payments to porn devs too since the ban was all of sudden without warning, so all the cash they had on hold until payments were handed out is now locked on itch's hands

>>716499452
Pretty sure they would unironically just stop selling pork. Whats your point?

>>716499452
I'm sure my local grocery would do just fine after credit cards no longer work in there and they lose 80% of users.
Also in this inaginary scenario, government would step in.

>>716475382
got a whip snapping vibe to it

>>716499697
visa would come back next week demanding they stop selling beef and milk

good to see googem is still a retard 7 years later

>>716499539
Yeah no one is getting that money now, itch has the perfect excuse to pocket all of it by claiming there is nothing they can do and shirk any obligation to find a way to get those creators the money they are due

>>716499954
What do you think itch can do?

basically if you let fuckers fuck you youre going to get fucked harder everytime
its literally just a matter of telling them to fuck off now or later

>>716496215
those games did really well for what they are
right has been out for a week

>Built a dynamic item effect system to support making any item i can think of for my roguelite
>Supports multiple types of effects, passive or activated, and also supports either flat rate bonuss or incrimental accumulation of bonus/stats/effect activations
>Test every possible combination of every bonus type, trigger type, effect type, etc
>It all actually fucking works
I still need to make the main menu, character select, saving, the collection log, and starting / ending runs, but I have all the groundwork for that laid out already in the relevant gameplay scripts, I just need to plug it all in essentially, so code wise i just need to lock in for a weekend and i'll get most of that in.
It still feels very weird getting to a point where most of the code at least for pure gameplay and systems is done and it's a lot of tweaking, making sprites, and thinking of the actual content that needs to be made.

>>716500342
Can you explain like I'm 5, what exactly can itch do at this point, realistically?

>>716500494
visa didnt reach into their servers and do this shit. they also dont have a legal mandate for what theyre demanding.
all itch has to do is say no.
what happens after that is either a win or not their fault and can be dealt with.

>>716500494
nothing

>>716500774
so there would be no consequences to not complying with visa's demands, is that correct?

>>716414763
>that smile
kys

>>716489285
You don't even have a game. Sucks to be you.

>>716500942
oh nooo users have to sign up for some other payment service because the corpos are powergrabbing... so difficult i cry

>>716501273
can you name some alternatives for me? I might have to abandon visa, as I no longer support their business decisions

>learning godot
>practice 2d platformer game
>scope was too large, cut it down
>already hate the fucking game but want to finish it
>it's just one level of platforms with 3 shitty mechanics
>still have to fix bugs and make giant background pixel art panels

Fuck

tits or ass?

>>716501524
its really just a matter of what the stores you use have on deck...if they dont provide alternatives you dont get alternatives.

>>716401834
>AI-powered detective game set in New York City!
I remember when you were vehemently denying that you used AI in these threads.

>>716501904
>Kalus or Kameo
Why not both?

>>716501858
>still have to make giant background pixel art panels
Why? If you don't want to do it, then don't. Do a shader or something abstract. Godot even lets you easily render 3D behind 2D scenes so there's no limit to the kind of stuff you can put in the background of your game

>>716502530
Because it's in my pseudo design document, I'm retarded. You're right, I'll come up with something easier and move on to the next practice game

>>716503889
>design document
You are not ready to have a design document, bin that shit immediately and go back to basics. 1 mechanic or less, blocks for graphics, zero frills
Once you have 5 or so games like that THEN you can try adding more complexity
You are trying to do a marathon when you barely learned to crawl

>>716500945
>smile
Whats the problem with the smile?

>>716505062
Wrong on all accounts. He's doing well because he's learning what does and doesn't work with design documents and prototyping. Making a design documents that actually work is a skill too.

L6ZRR-HLUPR-MBL8J-FMWWU
epic store key for an asset pack, swap places with the first and last pairs

>>716505645
>>716503889
Keep in mind, my document is TINY, it's just for direction. Nonetheless, I've done too much

>>716505645
Design document when you don't even have a grasp enough of the basics to not drown trying to make a super simple platformer is asking for trouble, it entices you to scope creep beyond your means by giving you a space to blue sky ideas guy when you can barely make the simple elements you already struggle with work

>>716505449
Terminally online niggas associate itwith cucking h manga

>>716506197
>it entices you to scope creep beyond your means by giving you a space to blue sky ideas guy
No, the whole point is to outline exactly what will be in the game. They're meant to add clarity to vague notions(i.e. if you want collectibles in your game, a gdd will force you to specifiy exactly what that entails as opposed to it being some vague and nebulous idea in your head). Working with proper design documents from the beginning will help him cultivate a sense of scope control and allow him to develop a better sense of how long a project will take.
>>716506004
Tiny is fine. Like I said above, it's a skill. One that's really useful for both scope control and forcing one to enunciate what the main hook/appeal of their game is intended to be from the start.

>>716414763
>45% of the screen is covered with the guns
>still
Please fix.

is it worth vibe coding a game for fun these days? i work in web dev but i wanted to go in to games 15 years ago but uhh it didn't pan out

Need me some low poly lolis.

>>716507919
I'll make some for you. Can you pay with Mastercard or Visa?

>>716508060
Wasn't someone from here releasing their loli models for free?

>>716506861
Are you serious? people traumatized by a cuck H manga? LMAO, I mean, that reason sounds so stupid but at the same time, makes me remember the guy that started ranting randomly about the game's thumbnail when he was making a video about it.

>>716507539
I will fix it later.......

>>716497365
Thanks, that's really nice, anon. I think the other thing that separated my project is the fact that I have local and online co-op as well as online Tag mode, and I plan for racing as well. Multiplayer gives a game infinite replayability.

>>716496215
terrible character designs

>>716507919
knock yourself out

>>716508924
You know this actually gives me an idea for something...

>>716508481
Still want to sex the nun

>>716429084
Godot is a trap. You start off and it's so easy! You've got a really customizable character controller, a little test room, you've got some animations in and some sounds, it's feeling like a real game!

Then you realize the navigation server is broken shit. Performance tanks as soon as you have 5 enemies. Light leaks through everything, you can't use modular level pieces or bake lighting without bugs. You start to add animations and realize how buggy and broken the animation tree system is.

Even if you overcome all of this, you need to start making levels and building content... Godot has no method for building levels or setting up an asset zoo. You have to either make your levels in blender or buy an addon which isn't going to be up to date, or manually drag every single level asset into the game and watch as the seams between modular pieces flicker and bug out (as they have for 2 years).

Godot is not a serious game engine for 3D, the very most basic elements of a game engine (tooling to create games) are not present. It's sad because it's really fun to use... but it's just got a long way to go.

>>716499281
Speaking of fonts, where do you guys get your fonts from? Dafont and 1001 have some stuff, but they often times feel like they're skirting legality. Like fonts that are clearly cloning some games look being marked "100% free to use" and shit. Windows fonts are also weird, their website makes it sound like they aren't legal for commercial use, but then devs use them all the time.

>>716427726
Use mono branch

>>716510170
Nobody uses godot for 3D

>>716508481
the gravity-stuff is dope af

>>716509034
oh no...
>>716510176
what about google fonts?
>>716510637
>Nobody uses godot for 3D
I do

>>716500357
5 years of work should stave off 6 years of actual work. "Well for what they are" do not satisfy the dream of getting YouTube analyses videos en masse.

>>716512489
they needed to spend those 5 years to make a game with the appeal that's enough to pull in 6 years of income

>>716510176
>Like fonts that are clearly cloning some games look being marked "100% free to use" and shit
Believe it or not, that's legal. As long as the font has been remade from scratch, it is completely legally distinct font face.
https://youtu.be/J06tluN7rtE

will the government protect coomer games? Republicans want to ban all porn and Democrats are run by feminists who hate sexy women.

>>716508563
These last 2 blurbs are Osh's entire identity and the problem here exist in every other platformer.
That the spectator-viewer experience is boring and only gets worse if the person playing the game gets hit a lot.

>>716513689
Interesting if true. I have been eyeing the OOT font for years, but adobe owns it and require an endless subscription for life to use it.
https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/fot-chiaro-std

Even still it's probably not worth baiting large corporations into frivolous lawsuits, even if you would win in the end.

>>716513717
The government still thinks video games cause violence, so no. They'd ban games outright if they thought they could get away with it.

>>716514103
The video I linked explains it. You pay Adobe for the font file (or the right to use it), but you could also just trace over it and be fine, because you can't copyright the look of it, only the file itself.

>>716412881
>>716412165
>>716419212
Among the best things I've seen here

>>716508481
I think a dual gunslinging nun with a smug face is pretty dope lol

> bought a new computer and decided to learn to make games last year
> Started a course, shelved it for a few months due to life happenings and other priorities
> Got back into it, but know reasonably enough to start dream erotic game no problem.
> feel like time could be better spent working directly on it instead of building general game engine knowledge with games from the course.

not really venting. I also need to commit at least an hour a day to this. I have a clear idea of the game I want to make (ripping off from some other game but adding a halfbaked story to it) but it also requires hiring a character design and pixel artist which I don't want to burn the funds to spend at the moment even if I had the game prototype fully built out.

>>716516296
new wannabe devs are adorable with how clueless they are