Thread 716999938

Demo phenomenal. Download it.

>>716999938 (OP)
nah. playan ragebound

played it yesterday, its got a lot more depth than i expected on top of being really good looking. i wasn't interested in in before the demo, but theres a pretty good chance i'll get it when its out - if nothing more, i just want to hand the people who made SOR4 a reality (and a great game at that) some more money, they actually deserve to stay in business and keep making games

It's the superior shinobi game. Even Ragebound felt more like Shinobi than Ninja Gaiden.

>>716999938 (OP)
Game is looking to be my GOTY, demo was fucking great

Shan't.

On par with Prince of Persia and 9 Sols and so on. really good job with the demo.

Options menu is a pregnant woman guess it's not bad so far.

>Streets of Rage 4 was one of the best games I'd played in a long time
>Now this is on the way

Lizardcube, I kneel.

>>717003975
I could tell playing SOR4 that it wasn't a fluke, these guys are actually really into video games and WANT to make good ones for other people like themselves. real fucking shame that the next SOR and the Golden Axe revival will be some kind of 3D beat em ups, i'm not feeling too hopeful for those

>>717004606
I have sunk far more time into SoR4 than I ever thought I would for a beat 'em up. I really like the roguelite DLC they added as well since it gave us new moves for each character so we could mix and match.

>Ninja Gaiden ragebound and 4, Shinobi
Need Sekiro 2 and Mark of the ninja 2 and I'll be happy

>>716999938 (OP)
It was too easy and the enemy design is too basic

>>717005476
>demo of the tutorial area is easy
Shocking.

>>716999938 (OP)
This looks like absolute ass, they should have made the graphics like the new ninja gaiden or shadow of the ninja reborn.

>>716999938 (OP)
>denuvo

Get fucked if you're retarded enough to install actual malware

>>717004606
>>717003975
SoR4 is a generic zoom zoom slop that has nothing in common with SoR. They already made a completely different game, couldn't sell it and pitched the idea to Sega who said 'yeah sure since you did all the work'

>>717006073
>SoR4 is a generic zoom zoom slop that has nothing in common with SoR.
I can't with you people

the entire design so far tells me it'll be prettyslop with no substance whatsoever, enemies just stand and wait to get killed

>>717006073
>slop uttered

why don't you slop on my fucking nuts, lmao

>>717006273
So you're just saying a bunch of shit

>>717006259
ah yes I remember doing full stage combos in streets of rage 2, that's how the game was designed right, they even added tells for enemy attacks so zoomers didn't need to learn the concept of spacing and effective enemy ranges

>>717006259
Outside of a few enemy names, it's literally nothing in common with SoR

Either get SoR Remake or just play Beats of Rage

https://store.steampowered.com/app/350910/Streets_of_Fury_EX/
That#s the fucking slop it was based on

>>717006309
>trolling
bad idea

>>717006378
It's allowed to add more things you obnoxious fat fucker

>>717006401
You kids say the dumbest shit. I swear you people are fat headed.

>>717006448
I am not fat and I am just saying the game isn't the same

>>716999938 (OP)
I have french'd sequeslop fatigue

>>717006592
There's no pleasing your kind.

>>716999938 (OP)
Is it like Mark of the Ninja?

arguments against why SoR4 isn't an actual SoR game
>gameplay is completely different
>combos and juggles are now a thing
>emphasis on using specials to avoid damage
>emphasis on going fast to keep that combo counter up
>enemies are mostly designed in a very clear randomized pattern to further emphasize the key defense is not spacing or movement but rather using the special button
arguments as to why it's a SoR game
>bro lemme troll

hmm

>>717006568
You're replying to a troll
It's the same tard who shits up all the threads

>>717006687
How is me not being obnoxiously autistic about every little microscopic thing trolling exactly?

>>717006649
not really

Had a good time, though the combat was easy I'm hopeless with that's so indie game spike wall rooms.

>>716999938 (OP)
Fucking Amazing

>>716999938 (OP)
I'll wait to see what mork says about the game

>>717007762
Why not just play the demo and form your own opinion?

>>716999938 (OP)
goty

>>716999938 (OP)
Fucking love the combat so far

Just like SoR4 this is a remake that has nothing in common with previous games outside of window dressing, what a shame

>>717008640
I don't think you know what remake means. You might be fucking stupid.

>>717008754
Realized i typed remake instead of revival right after posting, it's still combo slop though

>>716999938 (OP)
Denuvo. Sorry not installing this

>>717008640
They completely fucked up the double jump, even letting you wall cling during it.

>>717008862
That doesn't even make sense. How is combos slop exactly?

>>717009027
Get rekt pc fag

>>717002907
Is that his wife?

>>717010492
No they decided to add a random drawing of a woman anon.

>>716999938 (OP)
Good sprite work if nothing else

>>717010538
I was just asking a question anon no need to be so hostile

>>717010658
It's not out of a need, it's out of pure desire.

>>716999938 (OP)
Can already tell the game is going to be great

>>717010492
Naoko Musashi

>>717010492
My hero would never have premarital sex.

>>717010492
Yep, Joe bred that

>>717010914
>>717010839
Fat nerds on suicide watch since this dropped.

>>717011007
Ok. Enjoy getting divorce raped, Joe.

>>717011205
I'll add it to the "Things that won't happen" list.

>>717011205
He has a brown tomboy as a rebound.

>>717010839
>>717010914
shes fucking dead, right?

>>716999938 (OP)
But I just bought Ragebound

>>717002907
Ah they put my wife in the game I see. Very based.

>>717003975
>>717004606
Reminder that SoR4 gameplay devs were not Lizardcube, they "only" did the visuals. And before that, an 1:1 remake of Wonder Boy. It's impressive this is their first attempt to make a game 100% on their own.

>>717010607
lmao it's just comboslop

>>716999938 (OP)
It's a good year to own a Steam Deck OLED.

>>717011812
Lmao heres your (you)slop

>>717011510
In another timeline she was killed by the fucker with the crazy hair, yeah.

>>717011781
Shinobi 3 is way better than this.

>>717011781
Just looked into it, forgot it was a group effort between LC, Guard Crush and Dotemu. That does make this game a lot more impressive. It's not going to be my GOTY but it seems like a good game for the price, and these french bastards deserve more funding

>>717011648
Okay? Shinobi has a demo now and it's out til the end of the month anyways.

>>717011812
>Combos is now a bad thing
Is this self reporting as a casual?

>>716999938 (OP)
I found it a bit dull and the hand drawn sprites dont really scale well when zoomed out, so it looks almost like a bad ms paint job in worse case scenario's.
Also the constant "people talking" fucking suuuucks in a 2d platformer and I was really dissapointed that its yet another metroid vania light.
The combo system also sucks, like you have these big yellow fags, and X X Y Y combo works every single time. I rather spam one button in games like this then use the same fucking braindead combo over and over.

I didnt care for it

>>717012213
This is the dumbest complaint i've read about this yet.
You do realize all sprite/drawn things look bad the more it's zoomed out right? That's an asinine thing to say.

>>717012213
These complaints sound like you either didn‘t play the demo or already wanted to hate it before playing it. It‘s the start of the game so of course there is going to be dialogue. It‘s stage based and if being able to unlock locked side paths in old levels with new abilities makes it a metroidvania then just about any sidescroller is one. That combo isn‘t optimal in every scenario because most enemies will have shields and you won‘t be able to do that combo without getting hit

no real strong opinions

it's a 2d sega genesis platformer

can't joe musashi do a dropkick to break crates? i guess that's unlockable.

>>717013660
i was surprised crates were unbreakable as well, at the end of the demo you get some kinda stomp move to break through glowing floors but crates seem to be just obstacles

>>717012151
only casuals love combos, it's like fighting games where newcomers think these games are about combos and not the actual fighting, same happened to dmc fags and that's why they think old dmc enemies are poorly designed and dmc5 is peak (when it's not unless you are a combo autismo)

>>716999938 (OP)
my impressions:
>light attack, heavy attack
>dedicated kunai button
>a shop full of moves for purchase
>can string combos together
>an execution bar so you can execute enemies like shinobi ps2 tate
>rage bar so you can do your super special ninjutsu
>ninpo for crowd control
>unlocking of abilities that allow you to revisit previously blocked off areas
so they made it into something similar to a metroidvania, which is fine by me. I think the demo is on journalist mode, it's relatively easy. hope the final game is a bit more on the challenging side. joe's wife is hot. the voice acting is kinda cringe, I rolled my eyes every time they "oboro" like oh-bough-roh with an emphasis on the first syllable, but whatever that's a minor detail I guess. finally I will say that I'm mixed on the art style. I miss the days of well done pixel art. nowadays everyone and their mother wants to do this sort of painted comic-book aesthetic, especially asian or anime inspired games like this. eh could be worse I guess.

all in all it looks fun, but there are already a lot of competitors out there that are probably better for around the same price tag. I was hoping this game would do something different instead of incorporate every single known standard design trend out there today. I might buy it at some point idk.

still waiting for shinobi ps2 and nightshade remaster, sega. or a full blown sequel.

>>717015959
Are you playing with English voices?

>>717016417
yeah, that's the default.

>>717016817
Oh, I used the jap dub. Not because I'm a weeabo, I just despise English voice acting.

>>717016995
yeah I mean voice acting isn't terrible I guess but it's got that low budget anime style voice acting if you know what I mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY

>>717017354
Kek.

Any tracks as good as the GOAT? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJNVOmnhMI

>>717011781
Looks great don't see the problem

>>716999938 (OP)
I loved the demo, can't wait for the game now

>>717018578
old good new bad

Ninja gaiden is better. I’m just here to stir shit up. I’m a bigger ninja fan than all of you o posted threads for both of them for weeks and you all ignored me. Fuck you

>>717018806
>ninja gaiden is better
I don't doubt it, it was made by the game kitchen, the same people that did blasphemous 1 and 2. they at least know how to make some decent boss battles.

>>717018806
Shinobi looks more fun

>>717018421
Not really. I guess the demo only has Tez López tracks and Koshiro will appear once in a blue moon in the final game.

>>717019005
blasphemous 1 was a mid metroidvaina, but combat and enemy encounters mog this comboslop because enemy actually try to kill you

>>717011979
Its why Shredder's Revenge also plays really well despite Lizardcube not being involved with the project.

>>717007230
>that's so indie game spike wall rooms
It's par for the course with Shinobi, especially the late stages. You have played the Genesis games, right? Oh.

>>717011979
Btw, Guard Crush is making a new roguelite beat'm up named Absolum, it has a demo.

>>717008640
Shinobi has always been varied.

I don't want to be a hater but it was too easy, you just combo and mash on enemies then die to environmental hazards

>>717022410
Yes and that doesn't mean I have to like it.

>>717010914
I like how she's okay with him living in full ninja garb all the time with creepy Batman eyes, never speaking. That's love.

>>717006073
>>717006378
Just say that you don't actually play any beat-em ups and are bad at the game. Wasn't your complaint last time that you can't keep up?

>>717012213
This is a braindead post, but I don't care for how the game shifts the field of view either. That said it never looks bad or becomes outright distracting.

>>717022615
I can guarantee it's going to get way more difficult, it's just a demo

>>717011781
>100% on their own.
They had SEGA.

Autistic impression incoming.

Bloated controller layout. They insist on using triggers for gimmick shit like grappling hooks or Ninpo AoE that you use twice in a 10 minute level. NGR did grappling hooks with jump button and ninpo with Y+B. They could have definitely fit this game into arcade 6btn controller.
The slow-mo shit is annoying, the constant hitstop is annoying. The flashing VFX around enemies that screams "LOOK I'M ABOUT TO ATTACK" along with levitating HP bars is annoying too.
Executions are pure reward, zero risk.
All of the combo system crap feels tacked on and pointless when it's faster to do infinite strong attack, since you can cancel out of it and redo the strong attack faster than any other combo, on top of that it breaks the armor fastest and allows for infinite juggle.
Also the music is pure garbage.

The positives:
Unlocked framerate
Flow in combat is pretty good, you can 1hko nearly every enemy if you know what you are doing (need to save kunai or ninpo for specific enemy types).

>>717023621
SEGA is just a publisher.

>>717023757
So was Dotemu.

>>717023740
>Bloated controller layout
I agree soo much, felt like ass setting binds on keyboard

>>717024206
Yes.

>>717023740
Honestly? That's fair.
I think Ill wait a bit to judge controls as it seems like we're missing core kit mechanics that bring it together in the demo.
I understand where they were coming from with this new entry, but Im yearning a bit for shorter more punchier attacks/attack strings.
Don't think they took nearly enough from SOR4 in terms of understanding turns and enemy variety in how they use spacing.
Especially with how powerful the dash is both in its I-frames and breaking out of and back into strings
Leads to enemies really needing to catch up with player power in a meaningful way (something they talked about in the behind the scenes videos, so i have some hope for the mid to late game)
Music in the demo doesnt have me as excited as what I heard in the trailer, but Im attributing that more to a difference in taste on my end.

>>717011781
Also a reminder that the last the that guard crush led on a game design level, like with SoR4, was this underrated gem.
So do expect Shinobi to feel different at some level from SOR4

This is like 10x better than the Ninja Gaiden game. I fucking love it.

>>717028457
Apples and pears.

>>717028457
Ragebound is cool but it‘s a little too fast paced for me. Maybe i‘m getting old

>>717028457
do you like fast paced action games - ngr
do you like combo action games - shinobi

>>717030271
Shinobi's also pretty fast-paced if you want it to be.

>>717030357
sure but compared to ngr it's slow, in that game you genuinely just hold forward without never letting go

is hibana gonna be in this game?

>>717030612
Nah, but Sega already said if this game does well Shinobi is going to get a big revival probably even become a pillar IP for them like Sonic, Yakuza and Persona

>>717030873
SoR4 did well and now they're making a 3D game (allegedly), so maybe a PS2 Shinobi/Nightshade sequel isn't impossible

>>716999938 (OP)
>western fan sequel to a 30 year old japanese game series
>zero budget so the graphics are crap
>purposely trying to appeal to nostalgia addled retards so there's zero innovation in the gameplay
Fuck that i'll just emulate the originals if i want to scratch that itch.

>>717003975
SOR4 ignored about half a dozen major improvements that Bare Knuckle 3 brought to the series.

It was such a lazy downgrade.

>>717031073
If a 3D game happens I doubt it will be a sequel to the PS2 games.

>>717030873
Yeah this revival of their IP's feels like they're trying to see which one sticks so they can become main series like the ones you listed.

>>717031073
It's because Sega outsourced it to a different studio that previously made a 3D arena VS brawler, and they are reusing their previous game as a reskin template for SoR5.

>>717031205
No, no it didn't. SoR4 had dashing characters, running characters, star moves, charged moves, blitz weapon attacks just like SoR3.
The only gimmick that SoR3 had that 4 didn't is having branching levels, like what Fight n Rage did.

>>717031102
Retard

Lizardcube would be perfect for a Comix Zone reboot

>>717031262
Gotta maximize nostalgia

>>717032661
My wishlist is Lizardcube's Story of Thor.

>>717006073
zoomzoomslop my nuts

Just finished the Demo, goddamn this game is going to be Sweet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtnootZFBI8&list=RDXtnootZFBI8&start_radio=1

Played the demo on steam and enjoyed it. Gonna try the switch version now.

>>717038329
The resolution is a lot lower but it seems to be a smooth 60fps

>>717040886
How the hell is this running at 60 fps but ragebound is 30

>>717041850
Because France is better than Spain

>>717041850
Dunno but it's *really* pixeley. Might be 540p. I may reluctantly have to get it on steam so I can appreciate the art.

>>717041850
Devs cared

What's the best way to play the older Shinobi games? I know the arcade versions had a bunch of ports.

Loved Revenge of Shinobi back in the day and tried this demo but found it pretty boring.

>>717032661
>>717035201
Fuck these are both great suggestions god damn it don't get my hopes up.

>>717006073
SoR4 being good is non debatable. You'll never be an oldfag, larping zoomer

>>717041962
Why is it with Europe that the UK and France are just so much farther ahead when it comes to vidya than Spain, Italy, and Germany?

>>717022825
I'm bad at the genre. SoR4 is pretty easy due to its mechanics. Being able to air juggle enemies for long periods of time to deplete their life bar makes it much easier than classic beat em ups. Normally they'd eventually get knocked down and others will start to flank you in that downtime.

>NG and Shinobi are going back to 2D and competing with each other like it's 1993 again
What is happening?

>>716999938 (OP)
Recommend me similar games to tide me over until this comes out

Trying out the demo and so far liking the combat and controls, hope you can pick hard mode on the full game though, executions seem a little OP already.
>>717049368
Nine sols if you like parryslop and metroidvanias.

>>717034509
There's also just the fact few people care about the PS2 games. Shinobi (PS2) is a cult classic at most and almost nobody cares about Nightshade at all. I'm not sure what a modern 3D Shinobi would look like.

>>717038329
Is there a Switch 2 version?

I liked it.

>>716999938 (OP)
I was really impressed by this, looks beautiful, the mechanics are fun to play around with and the devs were smart enough to add an arcade option
I will say however that I'm not a fan of the original shinobi games so I don't know how well it works as a successor