Unfortunately your son forgot to change to Voices to Japanese before starting a new game
He was exposed to 30 seconds of English voice actingโฆ I am afraid there is no hope for him
>>717003895 (OP)SPEEEENEEEEE
LISTEN TO ME SPEEENEEEEE
*glomps him on the bed*
OKIRO, ONII-CHAN
>>717003895 (OP)I've started going Englush since Yakuza 7 released. Prior to 2020 though, definitely. Why were they so bad!
Still won't watch dubbed anime though.
>>717003895 (OP)>me starting a yakuza game without going to the options
>>717003895 (OP)Gomenasai, my name is Mads-Sama.
I'm a 54 year old American Otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins). I draw Anime and Manga on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior Japanese games. (Disgaea, Final Fantasy, Persona, Metal Gear Solid series)
I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.
I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%
When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Tokyo to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Studio Ghibli or a game designer!
I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.
Wish me luck in Japan!
>>717004259Old en dubs are soulful but bad
Moder dubs are soulless and bad
>>717004017>playing ffxiv>do a levelling roulette>get The Vault>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHbYUcVeyJM>filthy rats!>be gone with you!>sickness must be purged!>anyway back to Dawntrail>finish MSQ a tiny bit later>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kye324j2vEc>sphene listen to meWhat happened
>>717003895 (OP)>I am afraid there is no hope for himLiar. The filename clearly says stable condition.
>game does that pretentious shit of starting immediately, you don't get access to the main menu or even options until the 1 hour introduction followed by title drop
>it's set to dub by default
>>717004670Stable as in not getting worse, but he isn't getting better.
>>717005025>plays japanese game about samurais and underage waifus shaking their ass>calls others weebs
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccVTCGpBcdU
>>717005025Sorry mutt but British, German, Russian and Favela voice acting scenes are better and don't make my ears bleed. Return to the good old days of having actually good VAs in majority of your games.
>>717004931>stable-condition-side-view-portrait-patient-mechanical-ventilator-lying-bed-under-white-sheets-middle-aged-man-sleeping-128102592.jpg>sleepingSounds ok to me.
>>717003895 (OP)he's lucky it was just english voice acting, he wouldn't even be alive if it defaulted to chinese voices.
>I even change the voices in gaijin games to 1000x folded superior nihongo.
>Boku no hate the westoids. Glorious nipponese culture is all watashi need.
>>717005475Some people stay in comas with assisted living until they pull the plug
>>717003895 (OP)What language are you using right now, weeb?
>>717005714south american ESL
>>717004259I played Yakuza 7 with dub but starting with A Man Who Erased His Name and Infinite Wealth (and Pirates) I played with subs again. I like the old Kiryu English voice actor much more than Yongyea. Donโt get me wrong I donโt care about ecelebs doing voices (he does okay voice acting for a social link in Persona 3 Reload) but he is not a good fit for Kiryu at all. Otherwise the new dubs are alright.
>>717005387hehe stupid bird
The only game I play with dub is Dynasty Warriors 3 and that's because it's hilarious. English is an inherently terrible language.
>>717005619All the information we have right now is that the man is sleeping. Sounds ok to me.
I like how the usual argument for english dubs is how "you don't know japanese so you can't tell it's also bad", but I'm an ESL and i'm fluent in both english and japanese and I would take jap voice acting any day over the garbage english dubs.
>>717005948I just like that we have a choice. From FFX to Yakuza 7 we did not. English was ALWAYS so fucking bad.
>>717003895 (OP)Weeaboos are sad excrement and "le seiyuus" (japanese voice actors" are talentless cretins
Do weebs only say Japanese voice actors are good because they are japanese or do they actually have talent?
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>>717006709they're pretty good, and more importantly, american VAs are extremely bad
>>717003895 (OP)is that max payne
>AIIIIEEEEEE SUGOIIIII DESU NE UWUU
>Yep, this is kino. Absolutely shakespearean acting.
This is what weebiggers actually believe.
>>717007252>AIIIIIIEEE THIS FEELS VERY GOOD I CONSENT Hmmm much better
>>717006709Japanese voice acting ratio great/good/bad is probably 20/30/50, whereas English dubs are something like 5/15/80
Japan ain't so le epic as the telly says.
>FFX comes out and they're talking about full voice acting
>... i can choose japanese audio right? its a dvd there's room right?
>no! the engrish dub is bettel! no nippon voice acting fol you!
I just muted it eventually.
>>717007753Pretty trad. In the west it's 1 in 10.
>>717004601failure to gatekeep
>>717007753That's a tiny amount desu.
>anime fans hate dubs because hearing the dialogue in English makes them realize how embarrassing it is
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>717007753How many western women have nudes on their phones?
>>717006709its mostly how you can't understand the language therefore can't hear bad acting. square was trying to tell people the english voice acting was better in FFX than the japanese, for a reverse example.
why doesnt everyone use stage actors like fromsoft does instead of "voice actors"? the difference is night and day
>>717008095by pointing out your premise is faulty and the fact most english dub actors just sound bored.
>white people bad, colored people good
>conservative weeb edition
>>717004601Sickness wasn't purged
>>717008330Dude sonโt spoil Trails into Space
>>717006806>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooHiFoWz50UThis lil nigga scared me when I was a child. Don't buy televisions, especially if you have children.
>>717008095English is not my first language and the dialogues are ass in both languages, but still sound better in japanese
>>717006994That's because voice acting in the US is seen as being a failure, someone who wasn't good enough or attractive enough to get roles in front of the camera.
what are some chad-tier english dubs other than Yu Yu Hakusho?
I think Japanese is an ugly sounding language.
>"It's alright dad, they said they'll let me out in a few years with good behavior. I promise I'll never name the Japanese protagonist an American name again."
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>>717006994I don't think the issue is with Americans VAs. It's just that the kind of people the Japanese companies hire are pretty cheap and amateur in comparison to the high profile Japanese VAs they hire.
I mean compare Bamham to your Japanese games with English dub. It blows out of water completely because the game features big name actors like Mark Hamil
>>717008801>That's because voice acting in the US is seen as being a failureIs it?
That's not what I'm getting from someone like Troy Baker
>>717004497Pretty much. I didn't mind English dubs so much when they were essentially just people that the studio found within their office that day. It was unprofessional as hell and often pretty bad, but it had a lot of charm missing in modern English VA work (which is still bad but lorded over by a clique of untalented faggots that can't actually act for shit).
>>717008171The part of acting you actually care about is how people emote and the like. A lot of English-speaking actors literally can't emote for shit in their work (the British ones actually can since they are often actors/actresses in plays though).
>>717009084Ghost Stories unironically, but any anime made before 2010 has either a passable/decent English dub or one "so bad it's good or at least entertaining".
>>717009481mark hamil is commonly regarded as the best voice actor for the joker and has tons of experience with the character. There has been bad voice acting in animated batman though.
they got keifer sutherland to do an english dub for armitage III and even the sounded awful. so its nothing to do with "big names."
I just watch everything how it was made first
If I wanna watch some 70's Russian Arthouse film I watch it in Russian with subs
Movie made in France? I watch with in French
>>717004670Sorry that filename was translated by a westerner.
>>717010814>Russian Arthouse filmhttps://youtu.be/nb5fVBsxjoA?t=2483
>>717010814This.
A dub is never going to feel right, regardless of if I understand what's being said without the subs. The 'vibe' of whatever shit I'm watching or playing is gonna be thrown entirely off when the language itself is a entirely different aesthetic, and the emotion of the voice because of it is always going to be at least a bit wrong.
The only exception to this is if I'm watching something produced for a non-english speaking country but is set in a english speaking country. Because usually a dub isn't going to shove american voices in what's supposed to be set in britain, and it'd throw me out entirely if I'm watching something set in Texas and everyone's speaking japanese for some reason.
>>717009141Men speaking Japanese is kino.
Women speaking Japanese is painful.
>>717003895 (OP)20cc of Estradiol STAT!!! She doesn't have long left!!!!
>>717003895 (OP)>implying that AIEEEE HOO CHANG CHING WAKA WAKA TING TING OCHIN CHIN HARROOOOOOOO is somehow a good language
>>717006709British english voice acting has actually turned out some good performances over the years, generally they are properly trained. Americans are fucking terrible and talentless. Voice acting is a very big deal in japan compared to the US, so yeah, they are objectively much better performers. It's much more serious than the crap the US shits out.
>weebtards melting down over weebtard dubbing
It never gets old. It's a vicious ouroboros of weebtards subjecting themselves to other weebtards and crying about it.
>>717011785weebtard website, tourist
>>717011727There are plenty of good American voice actors, they just don't do dubs, try actually playing more than just japanese games weebtard.
pretty kino for a /v/ thread op
>>717011860I play plenty, you can name the halfway decent ones on one hand. Then you have hacks like Nolan North who do the same fucking voice over and over.
>>717004601Thunder God Cid is still the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds9_PRQHjG8
>>717003895 (OP)It do be like that sometimes.
>>717012118>I play plentyYou don't.
>>717009481Troy has capitalized on his situation and made the most of it, but you can be sure if he was offered a regular on camera tv role or something in a movie, he'd drop the voice acting in a second. Voice acting seems to be very insular, with a few senior people in the union gobbling up all the roles (and 'appearing' in just about everything, like Troy Baker and others seem to do as a result. If you're not one of the top talents, all you get are the scraps they passed over or were too busy to book. Unless companies, usually the Japanese ones, stop hiring unionized actors, which can produce mixed results, as witnessed with the recast of Ada Wong for the remake of Resident Evil 4.
>>7170077531 in 200 is pretty low, i think more than 0.5% of women have tried onlyfans or something similar in america.
>>717012197Sorry that you're aruging with shadows, schizo. Troy Baker existing doesn't make up for the at best mediocre performance in 90% of American voice acting. You should ask the Brits for advice
I don't care about what chinese cartoon enthusiasts think about my video game language preferences
>>717003895 (OP)>English voicesAAAAAAAAH MY EARS ARE BLEEDING I'M GONNA DIE
>Japanese voicesAah, much better. Truly, the exquisite notes of superior nipponese seiyuu voice acting surpasses even the finest classical symphonies.
>>717012523Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!
>>717003895 (OP)JP seiyuu dogwalk over any USA voice "actor."
It was true in 1970 and it's still true today in 2025.
Just because you can point to one or two outliers doesn't negate 55 years of superiority.
Stay mad. I'll continue to enjoy the voices of Kana Ueda and Yumi Hara and the like.
>>717012523What a terrible day to have ears.
>>717012632>>717012632>Aoi Yuuki>Staggering range, can voice just about any kind of character>Laura Bailey>Doing her Laura Bailey voice>again
WITH MY FREAKING MIND
https://youtu.be/loVT-qqOTZI?si=1OTBtA90poPJlZIc
>>717003895 (OP)They're both cringe because the game is cringe.
*changes to jap
>ehhhh oneee chan desu baka senpaiiiwow look at that it's not any better.
almost like games made by socially retarded are just badly written and badly directed.
anime crige in ENG anime cringe in JP. there is no winning.
>>717012432Again, it's clear you don't actually play that many that's why you can only pull out the meme'd ones.
>>717012918Or maybe it's just that American voice actors are all no name losers who aren't even recognizable? I'll give you Steve Blum, and that's it. That one's a freebie for nostalgia, though.
>>717013123You only mentioned Steve because he works premarily in english dubbing. Weebtard.
>>717004437Honestly I wish I were half as knowledgeable as the guy this pasta seem to describe.
>>717012142I just did that earlier today, yeah I love that one.
Anyway back to Dawntrail, remember that it's just as good and there has been no dip in quality whatsoever
>>717005714English is only tolerable in its written form.
>>717008095Why would it be more embarrassing to hear it than to read it in the subs.
>>717011591>Women speaking Japanese is painful.Japs think so as well.
>>717012329Japan is a small country.
>>717009084Cromartie High School.
>>717012632Worst thing I hear English VAs do is try to imitate cutesy japanese voices. The way they do it just makes me want to kill myself. I mean I somewhat understand Russian and they sound nowhere near as shit and I don't get anything close to that visceral reaction.
>>717014590Making the demon sisters part of the main cast was a mistake.
>>717012807Yeah and the same applies for virtually all EN voice actors.
They're themselves with maybe some minor inflections.
Americans don't understand how much schooling JP seiyuu receive in order to properly manipulate their voices to hit a wide range of accents, ranges, and emotions.
It's a whole industry that the west conveniently tries to handwave away as no big deal, but considering it's an industry that is approaching four generations old, there's a shit ton of institutional knowledge that exists.
To pretend some dumb blonde right out of LA arts college can compete with anyone in JP is quite insulting.
>>717014532no it is not retard
>>717014704Didnt watch it, how did they retcon the ending?
You get what you pay for. If you pick a third-rate studio, pay them pocket change and tell them to get it done by the end of the week, they'll fuck it up.
>>7170145320.5% is still 0.5% retard
>>717015074I think I will hold to my statement.
>>717017068>using the third largest country in the world as a comparisonyou're not even trying
Which is worse, english chinese or korean?
>>717003895 (OP)Plenty of actually skilled or at worst decent voice actors are out there. Seth Mcfarlane, Charles Martinet, Keith David, John Dimaggio, Roger Bumpass, Tom Kenny, Benedict Cumberbatch, Wallace Shawn, Mike Judge, Grey Delisle, Nathan Lane, the list goes on. What's sad is everybody starting after the year 2000 eirher thinks cheap funimantion dubs are a standard to strive for, or if you show the slightest bit of promise it's grounds to act like the biggest faggot possible (Gianni Matagrano, Sungwon Cho).
I don't know what happened. Seriously, Star Fox 64 hired random fucks for the english version and their voices were amazing. Conker's Bad Fur day was voiced by two randoms in the Rare offices and was legendary. Something went horribly wrong in the school for voice acting, I don't know what but it's noticeable.
>>717003895 (OP)>XBX>No options before opening cinematic
>>717003895 (OP)>turn on jap voices>high-pitched anime girl screeching 24/7
>>717017804english.
It's still incredibly retarded how the "e" in east sounds completely different from the "e" in earth.
Phonetically, english is the most retarded language in the world
>>717004050>>717012984I'm so glad Battle Harem/SoL harem died 15 years ago and it's back to shonen in full force.
>>717003895 (OP)Where did you get that photo of me and my medical report too?
>>717018639English monarchy historically was ashamed of their englishness so they stole everything from other languages, mostly german and french. Thats why most of their words were copied from german and french and why none of the rules work
Itโs also why british cuisine is so disgusting like mush on oeas and toast sandwhich, because thatโs peasant food. There was never english high culinary arts among nobility they just ate italian and french cuisine
>>717012807Early Laura Bailey was awesome as Sana.
>>717017804Writing system:
>korean > english > chineseVocalised:
>english > korean > chinese
>>717018759The webm you quoted is from an isekai which are still alive and well THOUGH
>>717020215>which are still alive and wellNot really. There's also isekai fatigue now, it was only booming about 5 years ago.
Only a handful of them are surviving the massive flood of dogshit from japanese hacks that wanted to make a quick buck off the fad.
>>717017652>you're not even trying>>717012329
>>717014454that kanji has a few other hilarious meanings btw https://jisho.org/search/%E5%A7%A6%20%23kanji
>>717012523>>717018591>When asked to do a high-pitched voice>JP Seiyuu: Ok>Dub "actress": Umm....that's...like...totally...cringe...I can improve it :) it's definitely not because I lack the skills to match the original work.
>>717003895 (OP)I just hate it when the game doesn't tell you that only half as many lines are dubbed in English.
The single biggest giveaway you're dealing with a tourist is they use shortened "weeb" (fagddit nonsense) instead of the proper "weeaboo"
>>717023523I've seen weeb used way more often than weaboo for the past like 15 years or so though
>>717022107How the fuck do they even understand each other when one kanji has so many meanings?
>>717025056Oh it has variants, scratch that.
>>717003895 (OP)It's funny to see /v/ insist on this degree of puritanism for muh Japanese games when they inevitably still listen to dubs.
>>717003895 (OP)Happened to me yesterday. Rise of the ronin, the choices are engrish or japanese. Had to play like a weeb.
>>717003895 (OP)This dumb fuck deserves it.
>>717003895 (OP)Why are americans so dogshit at voice acting anyway?
>>717004670He is in a stable condition, like a horse stable, for horse that are going to be turned into glue.
It's funny, this is how I feel about reading dubtitles these days.
I cannot fathom playing a Japanese game in English. I know I did it, 7 years or so ago, but it feels completely alien and absurd to me now.
i like persona 4's english dub actually
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>>717025587>i like persona 4's english dub actuall-
For Japanese stuff I'll usually go with subs but the whole
>eng va is always bad!!
is frankly not true.
Imo it always comes down to japanese writing being so shit that it needs really exaggerated voicework to be able to carry the intended message and emotion.
Otherwise, how do you explain games like Cyberpunk, RDR, GTA, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, TLOU, Overwatch or God of War which also have really great and memorable performances?
>>717025325Their dubbing industry is simply too small and got hijacked by a somewhat organized union. Most other countries have a much wider selection of voice actors because they had to dub all the English content
>>717004437I hone my mad nihongo skillz by watching AKBingo every day.
Voiceovers are a based middle ground between sub and dub that should be used instead.
>>717025929>Imo it always comes down to japanese writing being so shit that it needs really exaggerated voicework to be able to carry the intended message and emotion.Nah retard, it's because English writers are failing to adapt shit written in a completely different language, with a completely different sentence structure and a completely different idea of composition within words and sentences. That's why Japanese shit "sounds cringey/bad" a good deal of the time, because what often happens is that a low effort literal TL is shit out and it is then trimmed down a bit so the dub voice actors can read it and have it sync with the lipflaps.
There's also the whole issue of some Japanese words having a dozen meanings and that then needing to be translated to English ("kokoro" and "kakugo" come up a lot, and often get watered down to just "heart" and "determination" respectively).
Japanese -> English translations are the GREATEST argument against translation in general.
>>717025929No, the issue is that trannylators do a bad job, and they hire the cheapest retards possible to do the VA work. MGS1 has some great VA work in English (and in Japanese), and the rest of the series is fucking awful in English, like MGS2 having a dozen completely miscast roles.
>>717005574>>717004437what is it with weebs and not bothering to learn Japanese? I speak Japanese pretty well and have worked in Tokyo before so I can say with some authority that there is no overlap between people who legitimately study the Nip language and gacha horsedaughter coomers
>>717026643>>717026912Nope. He's right. Japanese vidya writing is just shit.
Doesn't matter if it was localized, machine translated or had literal translations, it always sounds bad and is only carried by the VAs.
>>717027173>it always sounds bad and is only carried by the VAs.So it sounds bad, except it doesn't.
>>717006709Its not like english voice acting is bad, there are tons of great voice actors in games and animation in the west. I also love many voice actors from my own language and believe they do amazing work when dubbing childrens cartoons and games.
The thing is english anime and JRPG dubs are not done by those with talent but by a group of retards. Its just a fact that Japanese is superior in these cases. Except in few rare cases, which you then realize are because those series have actual budget for the dub and someone making sure that shit is done well like Dragon Ball.
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>>717026912>MGS1 has some great VA work in EnglishMGS1 literally has the worst and least accurate translation of the franchise.
>>717004601The English dub for FFXIV was never good, and only delusional idiots desperately trying to convince themselves that they're not actually playing a Japanese game think otherwise.
>>717027173>Japanese vidya writing is just shit.How would you know, you can't read it.
>>717027261It's some of the worst translation work, but it's the best localisation work. None of the other titles are even worth playing in English, they fuck everything up by being overly literal and filled with awful lines nobody would ever say.
>>717027215The writing is bad. The performances aren't, retard.
>>717027494>How would you know, you can't read it.I have yet to find a single Japanese game that has good writing besides maybe Tactics Ogre.
I don't believe the claim that it's all the fault of "localizers" in this case.
>>717027750This is because you have yet to PLAY a single Japanese game.
>>717003895 (OP)>not pulling the plug on the system before 10 seconds elapsedskill issue
>>717027795Why don't you recommend me some jap games with good writing then?
>>717027750>reads English>"wtf this Japanese is terrible"
>>717028124Why would I bother? You can't play them.
>>717027161Because weebs don't actually give a shit about Japanese culture.
It's why literally every single immigrant in Japan admits the first thing they did was ditch any of that weeb obsession they previously had.
Like it's fine to enjoy some of it and watch those shows or play those games, but it can't be your whole life because no normal functioning person in Japan has it as their life either.
>>717008095Because it's not that, english VAs are neither as good as japanese ones, nor are they putting as much effort, somehow Italian dubs of anime in the 80s,90s and early 2ks were on par and sometimes even superior to japanese ones, the first saint seiya is a testament to that where they basically turned the anime into an epic poem with usage of high linguistics and did a spectacular job, hokuto no ken was another really good one.
>>717028186>weeb who doesn't know Japanese asks GPT to explain to him why the localization is badLol.
>>717028216Predictable. Like every japanese script.
>>717027560You said it sounds bad, and they said the things making the sounds are what carries it.
As for the writing, you likely don't pay attention to the words and only read a botched translation, so what the hell would you know.
>>717003895 (OP)>KIYAAAAAAAAAAAA oni chan desu ka>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>*explosive exhaling noises*
>>717023523Umm dont you mean wapanese?
>game only has english dub
>itโs British
>>717029561Woponese is a killer album. Unrelated.
Dubfags allowed Crital Role to exists. You don't hate dubfags enough.
>>717027161Because weeaboos are lazy pieces of shit. I cannot comprehend some of the youtubers who LIVE in Japan but never bothered learning the local language to even the level of a random mexican taxi driver in America. What the fuck?
>>717027161>Dude learn the literal hardest language in the world, that will give you 0 job opportunities and wont exist anyway in 20 years due to mass immigration, so you can play the same censored vidya or save 5 minutes before horriblesubs and erairaws comes outMath aint mathing
I watch like 5 animes a year and it's literally the same 9 voice actors doing the same 9 character archetypes voices every fucking time.
Their industry is so sterile.
>>717030210Because English is poor man's French but Germanic, and French Spanish share Romance/Neo-Latin as a common ancestor.
Next retarded question?
>>717030589Well I sure as hell won't use japanese voices in video games.
>>717030589>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE PROPER GRAMMAR FOR PLURALIZATION ON THIS WORD BECAUSE IT'S... IT'S LE HECKING TRANIME, OKAY!?
>>717030682Proper grammar says that Japanese words in English don't use the -s suffix in the plural form.
>its good voice acting cause i cant understand the language so cant pick up the flaws
>i don't understand japanese so it could have flaws i can't tell
>>717030780Gorillions foreign words got incorporated into the english language and now abide by average grammar rules.
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>>717006709Theres something about western actors, they never seem to give their all, they specially half ass screams to take care of their voice. Meanwhile JP VAs go all out even on the smallest of roles.
>>717030907Alright, let me consult the average grammar rules.
Rule: Japanese words in English don't use the -s suffix in the plural form.
Wow that's interesting, I think I'll stick to this average grammar rule.
Stuff that's actually made in America doesn't have this problem.
I wonder do weebs also set Sekiro or Ghost of Tsushima in Japanese too? Do they think it makes them more authentic or something?
>>717009758No, it boils down to the directors being incompetent
>>717030884I meant the opposite of what the greentext says, i messed it up.
>>717031218You realize Sekiro was made by Japanese people right
>>717031218Weebs is synonymous with non-mentally challenged and those watch content in the original language, so no.
Kek this thread really riled up the dubshitters. Can't even take a joke. Hajiwoshire! Enjoy waiting for fag-aftra to allow some shrill blue haired berkeley graduate to voice your waifus. I get your argument that you wan't to understand what they say, but can you understand how awful english voices are?
>>717030521This is an argument about the difficulty of languages now? Bro I'm saying that if you're living in any country long-term you should stop being a lazy faggot and take an actual class instead of procrastinating/blogposting in a DJT thread to a level where you can do basic verbal communications instead of whipping out your phone. Some of these people are here LONG term
>>717031193There's threads older than you online arguing the opposite.
>>717030059Critical Role has little to do with dubbing other than having voice actors you twit, it's a show owned and made by the people who star in it, said voice actors mostly work in American productions anyway not english dubs of Japanese ones.
>>717031402>Weebs is synonymous with non-mentally challengedThink that non- was put there by mistake.
>>717012863I'm glad that we've almost fully moved on from forcing Marvel quips into any form of media directors can think of.
>>717003895 (OP)>I see>it can't be helped
>>717030438Japanese grammar can be a bit weird compared to europan languages because some of the conventions and things like word order is different but is comically simple once you get used to it. Vocab is just pure grind like any other language, nothing easer or harder here.
The only issue is that becoming literate has a high bar to entry because you'll need to know a lot of kanji and they don't have consistent readings in compound words.
And if you are experiencing foreign culture it's just more interesting to do it in it's original language. You'll probably never use japansese for anything useful but if you are going to sit and watch anime anyway why not develop a skill while you are at it.
>>717003895 (OP)>Unfortunately your son forgot to turn his volume down when he opened <Japanese VN>>Those damn cicadas... they spare noone
>>717031962No, you're just a shitskin subhuman that doesn't understand the English rules of grammar, and are now getting upsetti you got caught, kek.
>>717028186imagine the retarded pseud who made this imagine. Please go do some high school homework instead.
>>717034436>weebs making up rules againpost your diploma lil bro
>>717015001Aren't the majority of English VAs just regular people with a good voice and won't stammer reading off a script, while Japanese VAs are full-on actors who actually studied theatre or the like so they have a clue on how to convey emotions properly?
>>717034862no? Just because they've "studied" doesn't make it good. I could study demonology for decades, doesn't mean I'll start curing diseases better than doctors.
>>717030438Just 2 more weeks and Japan will die and AI will save us and we'll never have to use our brains ever again
>>717035215>slop so bad no one can justify paying one intern to proofread
>>717035215Top left is a woke antiwhite game
The other three arent in english so i dont care
Enjoy your cards
>>717030438Annecdotal evidence, but learning Japanese was easily the best decision I ever made.
Got me my job, which I enjoy. Got me my girlfriend (probably getting married within a year) and, of course, greatly improved my enjoyment of video games.
>>717013217And I have yet to see you list the good eng va games.
>>717031207they have a problem selling games instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqmeQ0Ya4G8
>>717003895 (OP)This almost happened to me once, stay safe out there guys
There were a few golden ages for western voice acting making English dubs tolerable, but now the inner cabal of English VAs has shifted and the """"talent"""" that took over is essentially the concentrated form of people acting based on what they find appealing in their limited scope rather than through an actual wide variety of experience and training. What I mean specifically is that Japanese voice acting is essentially the language turned to 11. It's wacky, it's bombastic, it's shit that a Japanese person would never hear in that intonation in their daily life unless the people talking like that were retarded or uncannily eccentric. And yet it works because it's incredibly expressive and moving. A good VA can transform an entire scene and that's something that transcends language, you can hear it without understanding it, you can feel it.
English VAs hear the source material and take one of three routes. You have general incompetence like monotone readings or a general lack of expression and ability to read and act out certain types of emotions. The generic go-to voice types that try to emulate some of the greatest of western dubbing but fail to encapsulate any of it, as if they were amateurs trying to break out into the scene... except these are the people that keep getting roles now. And finally, you have your super try hard VAs that are amateurish and attempt to match the range of expression the original Japanese dub has, except they fail miserably and wrap back around into pure cringe territory with how little they truly understand how to work with the English language, which again wraps back into general incompetence. I have yet to hear good VAs in anime and video games dubbing original Japanese works for at least a decade now. They don't do the heavy lifting. They don't make you feel shit, they don't move you.
>>717036617why do all weebs run the same script?
>>717036698cause you can't read lol
>>717036964what does it say
>US VA
Dogshit.
>JP VA
Dogshit
>UK VA
KINO
>>717003895 (OP)Okay, got a chuckle outta me.
>>717027161consuming media is easy but learning a new skill from scratch is hard.
>>717028186I can never take reviewers seriously when they point out '''localization''' lines than blame it on the Japanese.
Come one dude, it ain't them.
>>717035917Red Dead Redemption 2
GTA V
Remnant 2
Wasteland 2/3
For Honor
Slay The Princess
Midnight Suns
Pillars of Eternity
Halo Infinite
Hades
Pathfinder:Wrath of the Righteous
Command & Conquer
I really shouldn't have to list vast swathes of American games.
>>717010814I love watching the occasional french movie, just recently watched the latest asterix and obelix
>>717003895 (OP)>Unfortunately your son forgot to change to Voices to Japanese before starting a new gameLol you wish this is a thing anymore
many games FORCE you through an opening introduction, cutscene, and tutorial level before you can even access the option to change to Japanese
>>717037976I'm slamming the enter key as hard as I can.
>>717037976Ava Buttnaked later started a civil war that killed 7 million civilians in Nigeria
>>717003895 (OP)Regrettable. You have my permission to euthanize him.
>play newer yakuza games
>simple things such as villians saying "temme..." or "omae...." are localized as YOU FUCKING PIECE SHIT ASSHOLE I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU
>>717014590Is this the sequel? Hadn't Panty and Brief confessed their love for each other and made love? Why is she laughing at him? Did they retcon the entire finale?
>>717005574He looks like he fucks young Asian women.
>>717015131you know how in hentai women are comically easy to hypnotize, and you can basically just dangle a coin on a string in front of them and say "you are a slut now" and it will work?
That's basically what happened to stocking.
>>717039898Thats fucking gay man. Thank god I gave up on the sequel years ago
>>717003895 (OP)Anime=Subs
Games=Dubs
>>717006709they are the best of the planet because they have to dub lots of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqbgn3SvmU
but comparing them to neponation burgerland the contrast is too much
>>717040156>Pros:>Season 2 confirmed
>>717040312Itโs not like the west doesnt have good voice actors too, but the direction is often dogshit
And they care a lot more about dei than how popular a voice actor is or how talented they are
>>717005979Far superior to your Hebrew throat cancer though.
>>717030438point taken but 20 years is a stretch, it would take a century minimum to destroy such an old language, probably longer
>>717035880How did you meether?
>>717004259they have not gotten any better
>English dubs are so good no-ACK!
>>717041516Online dating application (not Tinder or one based on hookups, it was a Japanese language one).
>>717042080kindah. my brothel sayd his frend neededh a datyte h
>>717038465What the fuck why do they do this shit?
>>717042852Maybe they're hoping people will be too lazy to change it after the fact? They don't realize that the people who change it would require a gun to their heads to do otherwise.
>>717025056It's funny these memritv things get posted so much considering who owns it
>>717042373>weebtard voice acting>in a chink gacha
>>717043076Well duh.
Not only were the subs fake to begin with people edited even faker subs on them. The spongebob one still gets passed around
>>717043076>teehee, these dumb goyim don't get it!>the screenshots you're photoshopping into ridiculous hyperbole are actually slightly less ridiculous hyperbole owned by us!Smartest kike.
>>717042410What's it called? Thanks
>>717043517to be completely honest I was surprised when I seen it for like 5 seconds then I just said "of course"
>>717003895 (OP)At least he understood the dialogue. Unlike when you put the jap voices and dozens an dozens of background voices or even "not important dialogue" are not subbed...
I was trying out Lost Sword last night and I was annoyed at the English dub at the start. There is no Japanese dub so I went with Korean voices as soon as I was able to change it. English voices don't work in anime media including all those English vtumors
I like dubs but since learning JP I play all JP games like that
Western games should be played in English or German
>>717004670Shouldn't you be posting abrahamic copypastas right about now?
Unbelievable anon, I'm shocked your idea of playing a beloved Western game in Japanese actually worked!! Your son has made a complete recovery!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW3jy0ERnJQ&t=2004s
I don't have anything against English voice acting but I have everything against dubbing as a concept, be it English or Japanese dubbing
>>717044198I agree. I want to watch something in the language it was directed for.
>>717044398Which gets tricky cause it used to just be "Look up the country this game was made on" but now I have to do this research for every game I play
Clair Obscur, made in France. So I play in French, right? Oops, no, sorry, original voice acting is English :^)
Dragon's Dogma 2, made in Japan. So I play in Japanese, right? Oops, no, sorry, the Japanese have some sort of rule that they prefer English voice acting to be the original in western inspired fantasy settings. :^)
>>717004437>Kanji and the Osaka dialectIsn't Osaka the ebonics of Japanese?
>>717044542>Clair ObscurKill yourself, shill.
>>717044653>Thread made by a weeb that appeals to weebs>Incessant seething when Clair Obscur gets brought up even though it proudly stands on Japan's shouldersChecks out.
>>717044653Sorry, I apologize, that was mean.
>>717044783Yeah yeah, still not buying your gay shabbos goy trash.
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>>717028580>ItalianThey were looking out for their brothers in arms.
>>717044942No one cares if you asked. You need to be told that you're a shabbos goy traitor, and you can't create because you're the Synagogue of Satan.
>>717008095>make up false statement>how do you point out that it's false without sounding mad?
Why the fuck are all American VAs the same two dozen people over and over again?
>>717012523tired of pretending this isn't just true.
>>717004437>I earned my sword license two years agosome butthurt britbong made this crappy pasta. no one in the USA needs a license to carry around a sword. not even sure euros need it.
>>717045114Nepotism and crony capitalism.
>Uuuwaaahhh~!! Nihon no vidya gaemusu are like... SOOOO much betteru~!!! I only play nihon vidya now, cuz every frame is filled with sugoi sparkles and honorabu battles for nakamaaaaa~!!! Arigatou, Nihonโฆ for saving gamingu~!!
>>717045205>OY VEY GOYIM YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF NERDS DONTCHA KNOW DAT? YOU'D BE MUCH MORE POPULAH IF YOU WATCHED SUPERMAN AND IRON MAN MOVIES, NOW IN THEATAHS!
>>717017068You don't understand proportionality. 1 out of 200 in a population of 400 is 2. It's still a smaller proportion.
>>717027161I don't care about Japanese culture or Japan. I just like their videogames and cartoons.
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Why do weebs keep peddling the lie that English voice acting has never been good? Shitty dubs obviously exist, but what do they gain by pretending that every English VA performance is bad?
>>717038996Xenoblade Chronicles X
>>717047003>BUT MUH COWBOY BEEBOP
English is a beautiful and deep language and it should be better than Japanese.
English VAs are just talentless and awful and uncaring and they sound ugly because they're ugly inside and out.
>>717047003Every English VA is bad. Every dub is worse than the baseline bad English VA work.
>>717005387>favelaMacaco spotted
It's easy to spot thirdies because they will mention their country in a list like it is relevant
>>717047283Japanese both sounds and looks a lot nicer than English.
Also Nina sex
>>717047353Yeah so what do you get out of this delusional mindset?
>>717009141NI HAO
nothing made me dislike Chinese more than going to Japan and hearing the nails on a chalkboard fucking everywhere
>>717047438You rent and aren't White.
>>717047003I mean it's pretty much true doe?
When I play a game, I absolutely don't want to hear anything in English. I want to hear Japanese voice acting. Simple as.
>>717047643It's not true, and you'd be a fool to think it is.
Why do you not want to hear voices in your native language?
>>717047003>shitty dubs already existYeah and they are like 99 percent of them because japs don't give a fuck about the voice actors they use unless you are hideo Kojima
>>717043630Pairs.
It's Japanese language only though, so you won't get far unless you're good at Japanese.
If japanese sounded like chinese, would jap anime and games be as popular as they are today?
>>717047780English is not my native language. As for my native language, I would never EVER want to hear it in ANY game, like, holy fucking shit. It would be super fucking cringe. I'll take English over that any day.
English is still cringe in 99% of games. I can think of a handful of examples like WoW where it sounds fine. But for RPGs and such, hell no, take that shit away and give me Japanese.
i genuinely can't understand how do people play asian games/watch anime in english. it's SO cringy it makes me shiver every fucking time
asian emotions sound so fucking cringy on eng, i once heard how genshin sounds in eng and i cringed so hard. i also can't believe in dubs in my native language
>>717048139No, Chinese ties Hebrew and whatever the fuck jeets speak as the ugliest spoken language.
>>717048148If it's cringe in English it's just as cringe in Japanese, you just don't feel it because you don't understand it. It becomes noise to you instead of words.
At a certain point you need to realise the cringe is the content and not the delivery
>>717044542>Japanese have some sort of rule that they prefer English voice acting to be the original in western inspired fantasy settings. :^)nah desu it works only in REALLY westernized games like resident evil or dmc, there's only a few asian games u should play in eng
>>717048431japanese gets a huge pass because the language itself is like that and you get used to it. but no matter how much eng dubs I heard, I shiver every fucking time
>>717003895 (OP)Every time I see weebs acting uppity about subs vs dubs, I always think back to this fat sub elitist I went to high school with that got arrested for trying to molest his neice a few years back.
>>717008129Anon, having nudes and acting in full fledged porn movies is not the same
>>717048605Good marvel goyim are just allergic to sincerity.
>>717048605It's more palatable in Japanese because it's their culture. English dubs that try to mimic it are always total shit. "The anime voice" is shit and I hate it.
The best dubs are the ones where the actors just act normally and don't start making weird grunts or gasps that normal English speakers would never do
>>717035880What job did it get you? I'm going over soon with N2 and a relatively useless degree and I don't want to end up an English teacher.
>>717048745>English dubs that try to mimic it are always total shit. "The anime voice" is shit and I hate ityeah that's what im saying, shits so fucking cringe
the only "serious" dub i remember is sekiro, but the jap vo just simply mogs it so bad it's not even funny
>>717035215Universal language is pretty much inevitable at this point. One of the things AI can do is translate, and you dont even need AI to do it. I was in Japan recently and auto translation tools are literally everywhere. Every restaurant, every cabbie, every hotel desk has a device for translating.
I do not believe in AGI or the AIpocalypse or whatever but one thing I think will happen within our lifetime is seeing the beginnings of a universal language or such convenience of auto translation that there may as well be.
>>717048431>If it's cringe in English it's just as cringe in Japanese, you just don't feel it because you don't understand itNah, absolutely not. Even when I understand it in both languages, Japanese sounds completely fine, and English sounds cringe. Japanese voice actors are unironically next level.
Whenever I hear shit in English, it feels forced.
>>717049045this. like nigger as if I can't distinguish between forced vs sincerity just by the delivery?? your fault if you are THAT smallbrained
>>717048897Most of /v/ doesn't want to admit it but the FFXIV dub from 3.0 - 6.0 and the FFXVI dub were good for that reason
>>717049616Wow, you sure stumped /v/ with your tranny MMO!
>>717049761I gave an example of a good dub, and large parts of /v/ don't agree because they schiz out about other shit, just like you're doing right now
>>717049864>schizAh, you're also jewish.
>>717048892I'm an English teacher but in a managerial position and currently enjoying my five week paid summer vacation while the students are away.
>>717048897Sekiro's dub is completely dogshit because you would have to be clinically retarded to play it in English. All the care that was put into picking the Souls/Elden Ring voice actors, which are exclusively English audio games, was instead directed towards the Japanese language for Sekiro. The only reason an English dub exists is because I assume Activision correctly thought that Americans are subhuman are required it.
>>717049959Interesting. Did you start as a regular English teacher and use your language ability to move up? I've always head it's a dead end.
>>717037976>Come one dude, it ain't them.It's always them. There should always be an editor located close to the source material (dev team) making sure that translators aren't free to write whatever they want. It's too easy to blame it on translators who are often just low-paid outsourcers. If as a studio you're not doing accuracy checks that's on you. (I worked in the industry, our translators and LOC QA in Europe had to answer to their respective editors (German/Italian/French etc.) located in Tokyo, they weren't free to translate however they wanted). And if there was a translation conflict, things would just be escalated to the LOC Manager who would then have meetings with the Japanese writers/lore specialists etc.
Translation mistakes exist because of mismanagement from the Japanese parent company, or simply cutting corners with costs, tighter deadline leaving no room for review pass, lower headcount with no LOC editors close to the source material etc. You get what you paid for. If all you do is copy/paste whatever text you get back from your LOC vendor, that's on you.
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i went back to sonic adventure 2 and played it in Japanese and rouge's voice is 100x more sex
I'm never playing anything in English again
>>717044783>didn't sell at all in japan
>>717050086I'm going to be honest, it was pure luck. I applied for a job at a large English teaching company and made a good impression in the interview, but found out during the interview they didn't pay employee's insurance/pension so I told them I'd have to decline the position. A few days later I was contacted by them again to let me know that an associate institution was looking for a manager/teacher and did pay a set monthly salary with insurance etc. and they'd put me in touch with them if I liked. Went there and got hired on the spot, which seemed suspicious at the time but its turned out to be the best job I could've hoped for. Pay is good and I get essentually three months a year off, same as the students. My job involves a lot if business Japanese correspondence with students and their parents though, so I couldn't have gotten it without Japanese proficiency.
>>717050797Well, thanks for answering anyway. It does give me hope that just trying enough times will lead to luck somewhere.
Are there any games with better EN voice acting than JP?
>>717051091I worked as an Eikaiwa monkey for years until I found a good job. Keep trying and it'll come eventually.
>>717048523Well, it's the case in Dragon's Dogma 2. Again, I need to research it game by game.
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