Thread 717126641

METAL GEAR SOLID 3 REMAKE

Can't wait to not even pirate that UE5 shit.

OH FUCK THE SAME GAME AGAIN OH FUCK OH FUCK.

>Playing remakeslop
cringe

>>717126641 (OP)
the only thing that seems cool is moving while crouching but you can already do that in the 3ds version

Imagine being even remotely excited for a guaranteed soulless remake, from a company that hasn't given a single fuck about console gamers in at least 10 years

Pointless remake as the HD collection version is already on all modern platforms. This isnt a Resident Evil style remake where its an actual new game. Its still the same general game as the HD collection version.

soon

>>717126641 (OP)
imagine caring
release master collection vol 2 you faggots

I want to like mgs but I just don't like stealth games, I'm not paying $70 for graphics patch either

>>717127505
wtf? did they remove the handsome squidward chin?

>>717126641 (OP)
So lets imagine Metal Gear Delta sells good, so what? Metal Gear is still dead. We're probably only due to get one more Metal Gear Remake and that's it. Konami doesn't have the talent to make more demanding remakes only easy to make ones like MGS3. For Konami to remake more Metal Gear games the gameplay must essentially be modern already and the voiced lines must be from the old games to be reused. Sounds like MGS3, 4 and 5 is where it stops. Though the graphics of MGS5 are too good to remake and the story of that game is hated.

>>717126641 (OP)
Oh no I'm getting hyped

Stop it you FAGS

>>717127736
MGR2 BAYBEEEEEE

>>717127440
The OG version has jank controls, so I’m interested in seeing how it’ll play with controls closer to MGSV.

>>717127297
Oh yeah because thats on modern platforms and is massively publicly available right?
>>717127153
>>717127507
>>717127595
You're all going to get it.

>>717127736
Peace Walker would be an easy remake for sure as well. I dont know if 5 will ever get remade.

>>717128102
>You're all going to get it.
I did not touch Final Fantasy 7, Re-Resident Evil 2-4, System Shock, Dead Space or Silent Hill 2 and you think I'm gonna touch this? Why?

Admittedly, I like MGS 3 more than any of the other games I mentioned, but that's all the more reason why I'm not touching this remakeslop. Make new shit, faggots.

>>717128172
Don't see 5 getting a remake because the story is aggressively hated. The story of 5 is intentionally incomplete with gaps in the timeline and whenever you think something serious is going to happen nothing comes of it or the game decides its reached the ending. So the story alone is divisive. Remaking that sounds like a headache. And most Metal Gear fans don't even consider the game worthwhile. It has the best realized gameplay of the series but since its so aimless and meandering around storywise many fans don't care for this game. And Metal Gear is mostly a story driven series. Fuck up the story the fans will turn on it.

>>717128534
So theres just going to be a big gap in their future releases. Delta, then Peace Walker, and skip 5? How bad is that going to look?

>>717128459
The problem is Konami doesn't have the talent not to make new sequels and much less to make original material. The impression I get with Konami is they are remaking the games that are easy to cash in on and then taking their gaming vault away to isolate and increase its value for future re-releases. I'm just not convinced that Konami is back. Silent Hill F doesn't inspire any hope if you ask me and last I checked that's not even truly made inhouse at Konami.

>>717128459
Youre missing out. RE2-4 were amazing and SH2 was pretty good too. Youre just going to have to suck it up. The industry is out of ideas.

>>717128707
The amount of effort that it took to remake MGS 3 could have been done to make a new interesting game. There's just no excuse.

>>717128716
>The industry is out of ideas
Not really. I constantly play new shit that, while not as good as some of these classics that are getting soullessly remade, is at least novel and interesting, thus worth my time.

>>717128653
Dude I'm simply taking a guess. At the end of the day Konami is a business they simply want profit. And we know Metal Gear Delta will sell good due to fans being starved into nostalgia. But once that novelty is used up you can't help but wonder what will Konami make next. Because if Konami starts making Souls Like games I'm out. I fucking hate that genre so much especially by now.

I want new stuff or at the bare minimum a new evolved Zone of the Enders sequel to Second Runner holy hell that gameplay is fun.

It being the exact same game as the original turned me off completely. I got the Silent Hill 2 Remake day 1 and all the Resident Evil Remakes and the Final Fantasy 7 Remake/Rebirth as they were all actual new games. This is just like a remaster ilke Ocarina of Time 3D and Metroid Prime Remaster and Oblivion Remaster. Its the same game as the original game just with new visuals and minor gameplay changes. I'd just be bored playing it as all the story and environments and bosses and whatnot would be exactly the same.

25 days AND THEY STILL ARE HIDING SOME SHIT
THEY STILL HAVE SOME STUFF TO BE REVEALED AND YET THEY KEEP NOT TELLING WHAT IT IS
IS IT BIG? IS IT SMALL? WE DON'T KNOW. DOES IT REALLY NEED TO BE HIDDEN TIL THE LAST MOMENT?
Also we still know almost nothing from the MP mode, Ain't even sure if it's gonna be in the game on release or added in an update

>>717128879
I wish man, I want a new Rocket Knight I know it's not the most stellar series Konami has but its a fun one. Either that or a new full Suikoden but hey the man who created that sadly died so no dice.

I would even settle for Konami getting the license to Ninja Turtles and making a new 3D Ninja Turtles game that plays similar to Metal Gear Rising (hell Raiden three of the weapons of the Ninja Turtles the Sai, the Bo Staff, and the sword).

>>717128707
There's still a lot of people from the original kojimbo team there, so that's a damn lie
new people can also do good stuff too

>>717128716
>The industry is out of ideas.

You are correct and the industry is due to for stagnation and maybe even a collapse. The industry has become uninspired and yet the prices keep going up? No way this lasts forever this is a bad trajectory. You can't charge so much money increasingly for the same old shit. Eventually the customer will be bored of it and become apathetic. And it really doesn't help too many companies are trying to imitate the open world bullshit for many genres.

>>717129136
I mean Suikoden Starleap which it's a gacha is apparently also a full game, the gacha elements are not in the story. they also announced a PC release so it's not just mobile, if it does well, they probably will do a new main game, the collection already did very good and I assume the anime is gonna do as much, so Suikoden fans are actually in a VERY good position right now.

>>717129370
Hoping for the best then. Its kind of wild we are seeing Sega for example return to breathe new life on its old brands but Konami is still slow and sluggish about that. Really want a new Castlevania to wash away the bitter taste of Netflix Castlevania. Speaking of which I need a new Devil May Cry to wash away Netflix Devil May Cry.

>>717129229
Hoping for the best. I don't care if we have to return to PS2 style graphics I just want imaginative fun games again.

If people actually took their time to read the developers interviews, it seems more like they are making this plain remake project just to get their feat back in the water before trying some newer things.
It's the team getting their gears less rusty and the last work of a few old chaps as they are passing their knowledge to new people. A few years from now and they for sure will have some original Metal Gear down the line

>>717129758
Thats still shit though. It took them like 5 years to make a basic remake. It will take them a decade to make an actual new game.

If people actually took their time to read the developers interviews, it seems more like they are making this plain remake project just to get their legs back in the water before trying some newer things.
It's the team getting their gears less rusty and the last work of a few old chaps as they are passing their knowledge to new people. A few years from now and they for sure will have some original Metal Gear down the line

Lmao who cares, play tpp coop instead

>>717129853
I think Covid screw them over, also I think the project pretty much was rebooted at one point as they originally just wanted to make a remaster,
Probably also took a lot of time to teach all the new folks on how to make a Metal Gear
I read somewhere that the game also originally was aiming 2024 but they took a year to polish it more and add more things, they did some video interview last year and it was apparently playable in it's entirety a year ago

>>717130021
TPP coop? What is that? the zombie spin off?

>>717130165
https://github.com/unknown321/dynamite
It's two player only and has bugs, still better than ue slop

>>717130267
>check mission list logs
>more than half are straight up broken
ehh I'll wait

>>717129868
yeah this is 100% a trial project, both for the team and for testing the waters of the market

>>717126641 (OP)
So many people are going to drop it either before Virtuous Mission ends or before Ocelot's fight. It happened to me twice before I finally powered through.
It's painfully slow, even for a Kojima game.

>>717128102
>massively publicly available right?
No, but it's also a trivial difference. The only major thing Delta has to offer is the graphical upgrade, but for the most part I think the remake looks bland and a little lifeless. MGSV--for instance--is a much more striking game. So is the original MGS3. Delta looks better than The Twin Snakes, at least, but there's nothing interesting happening here.

>>717131592
They seem to be reducing the menuing, which should speed things up immensely.

I think the biggest problem is that the game opens with a massive 15-20 minute exposition dump explaining Cold War politics and how it relates to the Virtuous Mission. That whole scene really needed an editor.

>>717131832
nah i liked those scenes, you faggots just have adhd or some other zoomer illness

>>717131701
I get the feeling that the gameplay actually doesn't play as identical as people think but they barely have shown anything about it
they are weirdly not showing much of the game even though it's a faithful remake, they are treating it like they don't want to spoil people when it's a 20 years old game

>>717132183
Something about this clip rubs me the wrong way and I can't put my finger on what that is.

>>717132316
You are so attuned to the original MGS3 that it not exactly moving the same while still using the same base probably does that
It's different to be noticeable while still looking similar enough
meanwhile most recent remakes prefer to simply change everything

>>717131974
Attention span isn’t really the problem, it’s just that a lot of the information could be streamlined. We don’t need to know the whole story of Zero getting Sokolov over the Berlin Wall, or the part where after getting your backpack off the tree, The Boss gives you a near identical monologue to the one she gives you right before the final boss fight. They should have kept her latter speech, and either cut or trimmed the former one.

Kojima scripts often suffer from a problem where they all read like a first draft of a good script rather than a final version.

>>717132183
It's going to be the same shit. Given how they've marketed the game it would be stupid for it not to be.

>>717132524
if they actually do a kojimbo with the MGS2 fake footage it would be hilarious
especially as they have the legacy mode too so they could very well hide any new content by showing the cutscenes of the legacy mode and hiding most of the new stuff from the regular mode
though realistically, most new things are gonna be extras in additional modes or features not directly impacting the story. I doubt they are playing the long keikaku, the risk is way too high when they want to revive Metal Gear

>>717132183
shouldnt it be way darker when you arrive in this area?

>>717132772
That's the first time it's darker, second is day

>>717132772
He's wearing the stealth suit and you get that after you steal not-Raiden's clothes so this is after that.

>>717132443
Personally, I think it’s a nice middle ground.

All the recognisable components from the OG are still there and faithfully recreated, but it plays in a more modernised way with modern controls. I think the only thing missing from the clip is the subtle screen tint/haze that was present in the original.

>>717132869
he's wearing the PW heavy suit

this is gonna be garbage just like twin snakes

I'm going to remind you what some anon said a while ago
>Originally says "the only new recorded dialogues are dialogues regarding the controls"
>David Hayter and EVA's voice actress later spilled that they both have recorded new dialogues
>Neither Snake or EVA mention anything regarding the controls in the original game
What is that? Is this for the Fox multiplayer thing? the new joke videos? Or something else we do not know?

>>717133484
>Deltatroon gif
Yeah, I ain't reading that shit

>>717134071
you will regret your words and deeds

>>717126769
>>717127329
calm down Kojim-drones

>>717126769
Really the most important factor. Game will likely run like fucking trash and they will never fix it.

I'M NUCLEAR

>>717127505
>meowww
there are things i wish weren't in the game. imagine your wife or girlfriend coming in during that scene

They should fix Master Collection on Switch 2. Why can my PS3 run MGS3 at 60 but my F-Zero GX machine is locked at 30?

>>717130804
I'd take 5 broken missons with tpp movement over that garbage they show us

>>717139018
Don't care still pre ordering the delta deluxe edition

>>717133484
The answer is usually whatever's the most disappointing.
The new voice lines are probably just for the online mode. It's gonna be like MGO3 where one player gets to be a main character.

>>717138516
>imagine your wife or girlfriend coming in during that scene
True, I imagine her panties will get really wet and she'll look at you with disgust since you'd never compare to revolver ocelot