*saves 7.0*

>>717235471 (OP)
>saves 7.0
They got rid of wuk?

We're on 7.3
>san d'oria bagpipe song blaring

I love speen's nose

>queen of Alexandria is an e-girl

Speeeeeeeeeeeeen

Holybshit 7.1’s story was ass. No doubt that was stuff cut from 7.0.

But that dungeon boss though? The rat that digs a hole in the ground? 9.5/10.

>>717236373
Was it not a rabbit?

>>717236373
The dungeon and the alliance raid were the only good things from 7.1
MSQ was retarded as usual.

>>717236502
Rabbits can’t dig holes.

>>717236585
You need to go down the rabbit hole.

>7.2 starts up
>immediate return to form
>recognisable XIV dialogue

They must have rushed the previous writing team straight back in after it all.

>>717236657
yeah yeah we all love the graffiti lala.

>>717236657
7.2 was just as dogshit as 7.1 the difference just is that instead of Wuk is has Sphene as main character. The issue is Tural and Solution9, they need to get rid of those places and never look back come 7.4.

>>717236356
I like this chara.

>>717236772
I just want to get back on the boat to Sharlayan and pretend this entire chapter never happened and take on the next threat.

Sphene hasn't gotten a Mahjong voice while minor DT characters like Koana did, she won't make it out of 7.3.

Ultimate clear rate: 4%
Savage clear rate: 14%
Chaotic clear rate: 8%
Forked Tower clear rate: 6%

>>717235671
IT'S NOT HAPPENING
OUR DEVS DON'T WORK AT ACTIVISION THEY AREN'T GONNA RETCON THINGS JUST BECAUSE NERDS CRIED

>>717238195
The improved encounter design™ that gets praised on reddit did nothing to coax more people into harder content. Those participation rates are absolutely devastating and I have no idea why the devs go so hard on that.

>>717238195
and yet they keep making more discord gated sloppah.

>>717238493
It wasn't supposed to coax anybody in, it was supposed to make it less boring for the participating minority and, as a side effect, "trickle down" to more inspired normal mode fights.

>>717238562
So, immense dev resources have been spent on less than 15% of the playerbase to make their raid experience more enjoyable?
Yeah, that sounds about as productive as throwing 90 people to test cosmic exploration and see if it is 'fun'.

Only one thing can save XIV and that'd be Blitzball in 8.0
>Aiming Job
>Attacks are Blitzball moves from X
>Limit Break is the Jecht Shot

>>717238854
Begging for Blitzball in any way or form might be the thing that makes Yoshi leap over the Q&A desk and strangle a fan to death

>>717238854
And make it insane high dps like dragoon. That sounds so fucking cool.

>>717238854
Kicking a blitzball around won't convince me to try Extreme and Savage content

>10 ...TEN msq chapters where 7 of them will be useless dogshit padding with gulool ja, sol 9 citizens, koana, erenville, alisaie
>duty support with absolutely no hype and no one gives a fuck


fire hiroi.

>>717238749
stay mad crafters got love nigga

>>717239003
>Locks a cute mount behind the raid
>Locks a hairstyle behind chaotic
>Fan base loses their shit about how it's not fair
Nothing will get you retards to actually play the game outside of locking mods behind clearing the raid.

>>717239113
>Locks a cute mount behind the raid
We go through this one nearly every single raid tier, not just Dawntrail's

>>717239113
Making combat enjoyable instead of hard could be an attempt of solving this. As it stands the "figure out the safe spot puzzle and map out your cooldowns in a spread sheet" kind of combat is not working.

>>717236657
its crazy some of the 7.2 dialogue WOL choices were straight from machine translations as well. must have been kate not putting any dogshit in. Weirdest wol choices. Must have been rushed.

theres been an emergency patch every time due to kates fuck ups.

>>717238938
well what new class would you derive from 10 if not wakka?

rikku being a class could be fun but she's really just an advanced thief

>>717239113
>he think collectively trying to retard wrangle 23 people is a fun thing to do multiple times

>>717239450
I wouldn't choose any of them either because they're already in or they're boring honestly, Wakka himself is somewhere between Black Mage and Ranger (mostly debuffs from the former) and the most unique thing about him is his weapon. Don't think he's good character-as-a-class material the way Squall and Seifer are for Gunbreaker or Zidane is for Viper (not that Viper actually uses much but the weapon and general aesthetic from Zidane)

>>717239219
You haven't had to map your cooldowns out since like stormblood just press them on CD.
The game has been dumbed down for years it's not like HW where messing up your rotation means you're doing like 30-70% less dps.

Retards are afraid to even try because they like to pretend there's some strawman elitist that's going to shit down their throat for not being BIS on week 1 and knowing testicle flex strat.

>>717235750
that's not a new scenario it's just a hint to play a better game

>>717239420
>machine translation

Where

>>717239784
I didn't have the patience for FFXI's sheer amount of fucking menuing and macroing 20 years ago, I definitely don't now.

>>717239784
bring it back to xbox then or continue remaking it like they were going to do.

>>717235471 (OP)
>*will probably die so wuk can get more screentime in 7.3 and because the writer is seething nobody likes his donut steel and they love speen*

>>717238349
The least they could do is redub all of her English lines with an actual woman. Gachas do it for lesser reasons.

>>717239875
You've been in a car accident. You've been exclaiming "Wuk Lamat" in your hospital room for the past four months. You're in a coma. You have to wake up.

>>717235471 (OP)
Arcadion is the most fun I've had in 8 man content probably ever, and at this point you can just vaguely point at Final Fantasy XI and I'll at least be paying attention to you so as far as I'm concerned DT is just fine beyond the bad MSQ. Or rather as fine as FFXIV can be, which is a 7/10 and somehow the best MMO of this sad era as well.

How to get casuals into current content:
>remove body checks
>if a mechanic is a stack/light stack/pair/spread then actually show the animation associated with it instead of flashing "Casting Octoflare" for two seconds
>remove iLvls
>remove magicite
>remove food/potions

>>717239691
>You haven't had to map your cooldowns out since like stormblood just press them on CD.
Even in normal dungeons bosses tend to do shit at the 63 second mark, making it often more desirable to shift shit around. It doesn't matter for that content but that kind of minutia is just not fun.
>there's some strawman elitist that's going to shit down their throat for not being BIS on week 1 and knowing testicle flex strat.
It kinda is, otherwise shit like the passport addon wasn't that wide spread. NA scene has the added benefit of needing to know several strategies because XXXDarkLurkersXXX guid is better than C0ckm0ngl0rs strats, at least according to the current party lead. High end pick up groups are just god awful and not everyone wants to dedicate 3-4 days per week raiding. Granted that isn't just an XIV issue and high end raiding has every right to exist. But the current track record of Savage, Ultimates, Chaotic and FT are just too slanted towards that.

>>717239816
the majority of the game is being held up by play made add-ons the Square is trying to pretend doesn't exist, it creates a huge disconnect between the game being played and what's technically the base game the Square insists can't be added to because it still runs on the one PS2 left when fans have clearly demonstrated you can just work around that

Why does the game still do these awful fetch quests duck off with your “0/3” xiv

>>717239916
FUCK OFF TO GACHAS IF THEY BEND TO YOUR WILL SO EASILY

>>717240038
Nah I'm not hopping into another skinner box. But it shows why they're running circles around XIV these days.

>>717239983
Dawntrail’s boss fights have all been amazing. The design team there are on another level.

>>717240085
most gachas fail

>>717240103
What has improved?

>>717239989
I agree with all of this. Keep food because it excites the economy a little.

>>717240107
They really are the new MMOs

>>717239989
i'm 100% on board with removing passive stats from gear. i'm also unconvinced that we need character levels

>>717240179
who the hell is out there equating gachas to mmos? that sounds like some shit a youtuber came up with for clicks

>>717238349
>>717240038
you're an unfunny faggot, stfu

>>717240169
The novelty of mechanics has improved.
It was already good with stuff like Zodiark and Nu Titan, now it’s even better.

What is a boss fight other than novelty

>>717240169
The boss circles aren't xbox hueg anymore. There's that.

>tfw the trailer shows WoL actually doing more than emote during cutscenes

WOWOWAWA WONNED
OSRSOSRS WONNED
HRT XIV LOSTED BIGLY

>>717240228
That’s a natural conclusion. Especially since XIV is story focused, Genshin and Wuthering Waves are clear parallels.

>>717240228
I guess in a social sense idling in Limsa with your ultimate weapon and posting in your discord/general about the latest 5* you pulled with free currency because you're a luckchad scratches the same tranny attention seeking itch

>>717240339
Genshin sucks ass, haven't tried WuWa but I don't really have any drive to.

>>717239994
>Know the boss is about to leave in the scripted fight
>Save your CDs for 5 seconds so you get more than 4 seconds use of them
This is like a non-issue outside of ultimates where you hold them a few seconds for pots.

>It kinda is, otherwise shit like the passport addon wasn't that wide spread.
There are groups that exist but if you're not trying to get into the groups you don't have to deal with them.
Like this shit exists because people try to prog hop and use people not to filter casuals.
Ultimately you can make your own PF and decide the rules which is usually always the best course of action.

This is just how content works when the content is difficult this is true for any game. You can find people that go at your pace.
Nobody even says anything and the group will disband most of the time in pugs which is probably worse than anything because GMs will defend casuals feelings over someone trying to give them actually good advice.

>>717240339
>natural conclusion
lol
>>717240345
i can only think it would scratch the same gameplay itch as people who play tab target mmos for their dailies which is almost nobody. i would recommend actual gambling before trying to trade tab targets for gachas

>>717240404
Literal porn gachas have spoiled me
If your girls don't get their tits and cunts out I am not touching your genshin asset flip

What if when we get to the fucked up graha timeline, the black rose absolutely devastated tural and wuk actually died to it (after trying to fix it with tacos before realizing the real world isn't so forgiving) leaving koana as the sole ruler who turned all genocidal after his sister was killed and we have to kill him too as a result. Yoshi p should just hire me right now

>>717240563
damn nigga that nerve gas floated all the way out over the indigo deep huh

>>717240563
just when we think wuk is dead..... she comes walking around the corner on her hands and uses her feet to gape open her A hole like gotse.

>>717240169
Not him and I can only call it an improvement in something really bad becoming average but throughout EW bosses were way too formulaic. They had a fairly rigid flowchart of what they would do, you get your vuln bad boy stamp if you fucked up a mechanic, but fortunately because it was such a flowchart you simply needed to get your choreography down perfect. Now bosses will have a small level of randomness in their moves. Before if they cleaved left, you can be sure they were going to cleave right before doing another left because that's "fair". Several DT bosses have said fuck you, pay attention or I'll go left twice if I feel like it before doing a single back and forth. It's a minor improvement, but I'll take it. I remember back in 1.18 doing Ifrit Ex and because it was aping FFXI combat ideas sometimes he'd do Eruption like 4 times in a row and it was really annoying to play melee DPS for that fight. Then the next fight he does a bunch of tankbusters instead and the DPS get to really open up on the boss. Give me a modicum of randomness so I'm not doing the same dance forever.

>>717240657
WoL's final act was throwing a canister into Tural after having a vision of a future.

>>717240657
I'd assume it would since it's a new calamity and those have world wide effects to my knowledge

One more day until Sphene saves the game again

>>717240563
I do we could've seen that timeline, it sounded like kino.
Imagine if SE had the balls to just leave all the Scions behind for an expansion and the WoL was somehow stranded in that world. Since they died there they could build a legend back up of people saying they returned like fucking Jesus.

>>717240794
She farts in your face here.

Do we have any shit stirrer characters? Ilberd was amazing and kept the ball rolling for the short time he was on screen, and Asahi/Amon both filled the same role even if they were mostly self contained nothingburgers. Who do we have that is willing to start a planet threatening war for shits and giggles?

>>717239951
You really don't want to start talking about repetitive posts, little buddy.

>>717240801
I don't. I want these writers to completely forget about the existence of a timeline where Emet-Selch, Venat, and Elidibus are still alive.

>>717240778
depends, calamities range between local and world-spanning, calamity of earth mostly shifted around eorzea and sunk allag into the ground while the calamity of water flooded pretty much eorzea's entirety, it's entirely possible calamities don't really impact anywhere but eorzea in the grand scheme of things with their instigating events always being found there

>>717240657
It makes it pretty clear that everything got fucked from it

>>717240404
The quality doesn’t matter. Path of Exile and Destiny 2 are in this bag as well.

And Wuthering Waves is starting to reach XIV’s par anyway with story telling moments, I’m sure Genshin has some moments too. Didn’t Zepla also start falling for Genshin?

>>717240864
Ponder the aroma

>>717241158
>my 40 year old hag celeb wife plays it so it's good
Jesus Christ

>>717241158
>Path of Exile and Destiny 2
What the jumping monkey fuck

I don't want more reflections, merycidia, othard or ilsabard. i want more eorzea

>>717240169
Bosses aren't taking up the whole tiny ass arena while spamming different flavors of stack and spread mechanics for one.

/xivg/ is fucking unusable. I haven’t seen a general that bad before.

>>717241323
>i want more eorzea
Not much else there though.

>>717240898
Strap in buddy. Yoshida has already talked about a multiverse with faces we know as dead still alive in some form.
Granted he was just talking about possible ideas and nothing concrete but it's still crossed his mind.

>>717241272
We’re trying to classify what an MMO is in 2025, and why attention has shifted from traditional MMOs to gacha.

/v/ can cry all it wants about gacha games.

>>717240879
You just described zoraal ja but he was killed off so tough nuts

>>717241442
The DBD general is worse by far. Even when it spills over to /v/ the same 2 spammers come to shit up the thread and accuse each other of being each other.

>>717241442
should've been around for katawa shoujo's heyday and the fifty billion "how bad can we get" copycat generals
/xivg/ has the excuse it actually is being spammed by a small number of guys at literally all hours of day and night

>>717241323
But even more than that, I'd like for the writers to add a character who's a big, burly, dark-skinned male Roegadyn. It's been a while since we had a Roegadyn Scion and the last one died in a single patch.

>>717241158
>Zepla
feel like she insta grew out of it.

>>717240968
Maybe they could write it so the black rose mutated and attached to/corrupted animals that carried it to other continents

>>717240794

>>717241239
>the Eceleb plays XIV so it’s good
>roundabout logic

I’m an eceleb too.

>>717241669
i'd rather have false flagging wowtrannies shitting on ffxiv than see posts by you.

It was already confirmed that the black rose calamity reached from northern Ilsabard as its epicenter at least as far southwest as Eorzea and at least as far southeast as the Azim Steppe

>>717238349
Literally everyone disliked Wuk Lamat besides you. If the devs don't want Dawntrail to be a permanent stain on the game that will filter virtually every sprout who reaches it because if how godawful it is, than yes they WILL invest the time and money to retconning it.

>>717241442
Generals for multiplayer games have a solid 90 days at most generous before the most autistic posters find one another and ruin it forever. If you want real insanity, pop in to the PSO2 general. That has the same autistic retards as the XIV one, except because it's a dead MMO they're even more borderline personality and off putting.

>>717241737
>wasting msq on this stupid fuck

god damn.

>>717241737
This lil nigga is so funny to me

>>717241857
Wasn't PSO2 killed because of a /vg/ janny that became a CM for the game?

Pashtarot, Altima, Halmarut and Deudalaphon are all still alive.

>>717241809
Get this fucking ANIMAL off my screen.

>>717241158
Do people unironically still watch Zepla? I figured she lost most of her fanbase because it was all trannies that liked her simply for being a woman that she then pissed off by playing Hogwarts.
Her contents always been the worst shit in the world she even had to start labeling it as [funny] because no one could tell what the joke even was.

>>717241809
Last time I saw this pic of Wuk a spammer was losing his shit hard in the thread because he got banned and wasn't expecting it

>>717235471 (OP)
Can't wait for the melties here when speen dies tomorrow

>>717241809
>new players will reach Dawntrail eventually

Never thought about it like that.

>>717240879
tranny post.

>>717242153
What new players?

>>717241647
Don't forget people creating generals then deleting the OP like 30 posts in to immediately create another before /v/ would get spammed with 10+ of the same general thread.

>>717242117
Oh no wonder I recognized it same filename lol
Slots right in with the "everybody hates Wuk but YOU" bit

>>717241857
Side note, every time I walk around in Solution 9, I get the urge to turn on PSO2.

>>717241158
>Didn’t Zepla also start falling for Genshin?
Yeah she shilled it for 2 years, made tons of videos on it, than for reasons never explained she just one day dropped ot. Won't even cover the new major patch everyones talking about. She just straight up abandoned the game, even her chat jokes about it. My theory is that her undisclosed Hoyo contract expired so she stopped pretending to give a shit about it. I think recently she mentioned she was bothered by the lack of males, but she also dropped Honksi which us hard-core fujo pandering with tons of male characters.

She wasn't the only FF14 streamer who suddenly started playing Genshin (and Honkai Star Rail) all at the same time during post-EW. You saw even ex-WoW ffxiv content creators like Pint making videos on zhenshin during this time.

It was 100% a mass shilling campaign by Hoyo paying FFXiV streamers during the drought of post-EW and only some disclosed it.

>>717242110
Her narrative analysis of Dawntrail points out everything wrong with it. Good enough for me. /v/ just wants to be Le contrarians, when everyone here already has their 4 vtubers they watch while eating cereal.

because of wuk lamat im starting to play wow again

>>717242110
Zepla's viewership has been crashing ever since she herself crashed out in TOP, to my memory. Quick skim of her Twitch channel and only a small fraction of her subscriber count actually watches her, anywhere from 1000 to 10000 views on any given video and she has 260k followers.

>>717238195
>design a raid for what is casual content
>they expected people to all just group up with randoms in the instance when there's a number of required jobs to solve puzzles/mechanics
>mechanics where one person can wipe most of the raid of done wrong
I wish I could slap every single one of these designers

>>717235695
>housing demolition
I didn't realise just how predatory the housing system is until I let mine go. The amount of time I stayed subbed just because I had a house is absurd.

>>717242192
Wuk being near universally hated isn't even a controversial statement. It's the truth. You're a basket case and you literally LITERALLY fuck actual real life dogs.

>>717241809
If they just retcon everything at the drop of a dime, they'll end up in a situation like WoW, where the writers just do anything they feel like at the moment.
>Oh you don't like dragons? Let's do Spiders next.
>Had enough spiders? Here's some goblins.
>Enough of the goblins, here are some void-niggers.
This might serve to please people with low-attention span, but it won't serve the story in the long run.

>>717241809
To quote the Grinding Gears lads, HATING WUK LAMAT ISN'T A SUBSTITUTE FOR A PERSONALITY

>>717242360
They probably just wanted to see how it would go, a cruel experiment if you will.

>>717242371
>predatory
houses are literally useless and have less functionality than the default game.

>>717242371
true and you know what is the funny thing about it? When 2.0 happend Yoshi-P was saying "nah we dont do a housing system in that you need to be subbed" and yet we're now here so pay your virtual rent or gtfo because SE needs your Rent

>>717241442
People keep saying that others are worse but I'm pretty sure /xivg/ was the one where someone gored a name into their arm.

>>717242417
They aren't hacks, regardless of what anybody's opinion is on writing quality, so I'm not expecting them to ever kneel to shitposters and start retconning things.

>>717241323
There is zero mystery left in eorzea to explore. They already killed all our gods.

>>717242307
Doesn't she just reiterate what everyone else says like she always does? You're just watching her because it's a woman reading reddit to you. I haven't paid attention to a 14 youtuber since like MTQcapture and even then it was people watching her because she had a nice voice. I stopped falling for it after the first time and even now there's some coomer vtuber that just talks in an UwU voice that I heard all the trannies watch now.

>>717242341
Yeah idk I know a lot of people also didn't like her because she was also clout chasing Asmongold for a while.

>>717242480
That's baby shit for generals, you should see what goes on at /r9k/

>>717242480
It’s pretty bad. It’s the most active thread on 4chan as well, maybe the Hololive general is slightly faster.

I’m guessing there’s a bunch of Discord and Official forum rejects that got banned en masse somewhere and staked /vg/ out.

If someone lurking hasn’t been there before, go have a look and be amazed.

>>717238854
This guy gets it

>>717242417
Imagine if they did some shit like a time travel expansion that revealed some shit like Hades and WoL were actually friends all along and WoL invented Hydaelyn lol

>>717242453
comfiest inn in the game

>>717242528
Yeah Zepla doesn't actually say anything new or present any new thoughts on Dawntrail. Most of that long-ass video is spent paraphrasing other videos she saw.

>>717242453
houses are used for ERP

Wait I thought everyone hated Dawntrail because of Zepla, now she was just copying what everyone else already said? Sisters I'm confused...

>>717241809
I have multiple G-Poses of my futa miqo raping Wuk, sometimes I include some of my friend group in them, good bonding experience.

>streamers
why is /v/ obsessed with this shit
can't you just form your own opinions on what games to dislike?

>>717242716
everybody hates you because you're a broken record sis

I can’t understand the lore of Solution 9 and Alexandria.

None of the stuff aligns. Why is the populace full of babies if they made an entire futuristic city? Why would they even want to consider moving to Tural?

What was Living Memory exactly? How was the soul head chip things working? Why was Sphene managing both living memory and s9?

Is it me or does it not make sense?

>>717242775
Why do we have to pretend that the entire board is above watching YouTube videos

Alright bro you’re cooler and smarter than the YouTubers. You’re the best.

>>717242569
At least they’re contained there somewhat

>>717242656
>time travel sucks
what a grand realization

>>717242795
>Why is the populace full of babies if they made an entire futuristic city?
what do you mean babies
>Why would they even want to consider moving to Tural?
they remember what it was like or they have living relatives or they want to reconnect with their heritage
>What was Living Memory exactly?
giant computer running a large number of people simulations using memory data
>How was the soul head chip things working?
uploads your memories on death and syncs everyone else's memories to wipe them
>Why was Sphene managing both living memory and s9?
they're both alexandria

>>717242852
Yeah but luckily we don't have to worry about these devs writing by the seat of their pants!

>>717242795
They explain all of this besides the populace thing, you shouldn't be asking "how does this work" if you skipped the cutscenes and act like it never told you. If anything I'm surprised you're not asking how the base of the Everkeep has infinite amounts of electrope mined from its base.

Find a flaw

>>717242704
GAM textfuck each other in pisschat while sitting next to the Limsa Lominsa aethercrystal.

>>717242991
its so fucking ugly

>>717242991
Whoa momma!! Hubba hubba hubba reminds me of my first dog I molested back in my homestuck forum days!

>calyx
hiroi slop
>wuk
dont care
>koana
snore
>erenville
fuck off
>shale
dont care
>speen
care
>gulool ja
dont care

will they even do anything with thancred/urianger/estinien? Don't even get me started on krile

>>717243064
>gulool ja
>dont care
you will regret your words and deeds

>>717242838
I am, thank you.

>>717243064
Why would they do anything with the Scions? They've had fully completed arcs long ago and are just as much along for the ride as WoL is.

>>717242418
>I hate being a contrarian anyway I'm going to be a contrarian
At least they recognize that their belief is the vast minority?

>>717242898
They’re babies because the queen dies, and they have no idea of what to fucking do even though they made all this electrode stuff.

If they’re both Alexandria, why does Sohene care about the endless if the Solution 9 population WAS the offspring of Alexandria anyway?

>>717242795
>Why is the populace full of babies if they made an entire futuristic city?
Most of the city was built under the supervision of Preservation, who were supposedly very smart.
>What was Living Memory exactly?
In 7.0 it's some kind of delusional version of heaven.
In 7.2 it's revealed that it's pretty much a testing ground for gathering data, so Calyx can work on evolving mankind.

>>717243203
they didn't make anything electrope any more than you designed and built your computer

>>717242341
People think Zepla stopped mostly because she wasn't happy with the state of the game but that's the real reason. Her TOP meltdown was the trigger that made her quit. She utterly crashed and burned trying to do an ultimate when it's relevant and couldn't cope.

>>717235471 (OP)
I don't get the hate on OC, it's far better than bozja

>>717243280
She also failed to get Necromancer while playing WAR

>>717243240
So none of the people maintain anything
They just live in this city

>>717242117
No one can get banned this days. Jannies try, but with the public eckers it's whatever.

>>717242775
People watch them to get news on what's happening.

Unfortunately FFXIV content falls into either
>Girl who plays the game with an UwU voice and never says/does anything interesting trannies just watch her cause she's literally me
and
>Guy who raids a lot that people think is really good at the game despite not doing anything special or impressive ever he just got popular flaming random people in pf and retards think it's hilarious and now has to stop because twitch bans it so it's just becomes a scroll reddit drama farm

>>717243301
In what way? It's a step backward in every regard.

>>717243334
Not brown

Her series

>>717242742
post catbox

>>717243301
It's boring. Most of the phantom jobs just aren't that interesting.

>>717243320
There are some people who maintain it.
But Electrope makes everything so easy that most people have their needs met by default.

>>717242716
Zepla is irrelevant she's only mentioned on 4chan now and then.

>>717243334
phantom jobs > lost actions
better map layout
better music
not a depressing landscape
FFV kino
never liked DSR, so i'm biased toward fork tower

They should have just done a shard exploring expansion with Yshtola, Estinien and Krile. Instead of wasting time in culturally sanitized americas.

>>717243151
grim.

>>717243434

he based

>>717243475
Noooo you don’t understand bro we have to go to all the countries and condiments from planet earth

Up next, Indonesia expansion.
And then we gotta go to France and fight the leaning tower.

>>717243429
Why is she even mentioned here? The only thing I can think is that she's WoW tourists first XIV creator they never kept up with.

>>717241323
Nothing left, it's entire history has been laid bare and it's threats defanged.

Head somewhere else entirely, another shard, dimension, planet, that's the proper choice moving forward. They only have themselves to blame for it, they rushed through the story once they finally figured out what to do with it and skipped potentially 2-3 expansions worth of content just to get it done.

>>717243557
cute hag who plays videogame
unfortunately we found out she's a fraud and can't game

Did they stop making modernslop glamours or should I remain unsubbed?

Anyone else wish they stopped updating the game outside of big msq updates?
I don't do any of the stupid raiding and everyone i know doesn't either
I tried that new zone for like a day and never touched it again

>>717235471 (OP)
SPHEEEEEEEN

>>717243434
>b team scions go places
>he went to merycydia

wahts that? getting overshadowed by estinien again and dragons?

>>717243617
They started making more actually because its bringing in insane amounts of cash
Everyone loves it. Your the odd one out

>>717243475
>In the patches Yshtola always went off to do stuff that actually sounded interesting and would progress the knowledge of other shards while you were stuck babysitting Wuk and herding cows
Literally who thought that was a good idea.

>>717243615
The times I've seen her it was just unfunny puns while being obviously terrible at the game. Who actually thought she was good at the game?

>>717243665
Damn, thanks, I'll use this month's sub money to buy something else on steam

>>717243617

this next patch is adding 2 or 3 different sources of contemposlop

>>717243617
god you look stupid.

>>717243554
Anon we went to france and fought some dragons and defeated a bunch of racist religious zealot frenchies

>>717243689
She had friends that were good at the game and simps that would carry her so she always larped as a good player. I guess she fooled herself when she tried TOP because it was a shitshow.

the only modernslop i'll buy is real sphene's clothes, and i say this as someone that hasn't subbed since DT's launch broke me.
and even then i'd really not do it any time fuckin soon

>buying glam
Do people really? Just mod it in

>>717243729
OOF
>>717243730
my condolences... i'm sorry about your loss of taste... it must've been the COVID shot that killed it, wasn't it?

>>717243710
YOU CAN'T FUCKING DO THAT YOU OWE YOSHIDA

>>717243643
I honestly can’t hate wuk because of this, I look forward to whatever new retarded line she has to say

>>717243826
>modding the game

Yeah bro none of those mods are running malicious code

Did Sphene ever...?

>>717243826
People who play XIV don't do it for self-satisfaction, they do it to show off to others.

It's why they took the time to make a mesh network mod to display the most horrific gooner golems that degenerates could ever imagine.

>>717243775
Who sees a person playing Dancer and thinks they're good at the game? The next thing up is thinking someone who can only play WHM is good at the game.

>>717243882
All big mods are curated and open source
>>717243917
>It's why they took the time to make a mesh network mod to display the most horrific gooner golems that degenerates could ever imagine.
Don't hate on mare. Its just a tool
And holy fuck its a cool tool. I don't think any other game has something like it

>>717243554
There's literally nothing wrong with doing fantasy versions of real life countries, as long as they don't listen to literally mentally ill and retarded consultants.

>>717235471 (OP)
Not even Speen could save 7.0.

How the fuck did wuk not know how the pelupelu trade?

>>717243890
Rub one out?
100%

>>717244072
Sheltered princess

These 7.0 patch stories are rough man. I was watching opinions and everyone was saying “oh 7.2 is a return to form. CIV is back!”

I don’t think so, it’s just the same as 7.0. Solution 9 is just a boring setting. There’s nothing to it, the moral dilemma is dumbed down.
>Im scared of dying

It doesn’t matter if these NPCs are scared of something, because it has zero bearing on the player.
When Garlean citizens were wrought with worry and mistrust, you attach to it more because it conflicts with what you’ve been doing.

What is the conflict in S9? Some guys have a Phoenix Down on their head and they’re scared to lose loved ones. And none of the characters even reassure them or ask any questions.
>it’s ok because their memory will live on-
Hold up night we just uncovered this whole science around souls and potential reincarnation across shards what do you mean

>>717243967
Yeah, curated by who? Have fun digging through source code and third party API usage.

>>717244095
no one cares about garleniggers

>>717243990
I've said it in the past month on a couple threads before and I'll say it again: having American English-talking cowboys with rubber bullets take over a chunk of the landscape because "hereto unmentioned cereuleum deposits mined in a gold rush!", while getting rid of the indigenous indian-style people that Martyn was trying to get treatment for from illnesses and bacteria brought to the "New World", is still hilariously racist and fucked up in its own right. If any of this was enforced by consultants, it's the exact same political correctness bullshit of "never depict the oppressed minorities".

>>717244072
The same way every area goes in Dawntrail.
>Well one time when I was a retarded kitten eatting shit off the floor my dad took me here and he was the bestest and greatest and taught me how to progress the story even though I got into WACKY hijinks

>>717243958
The "good vibes" fags she often courted. She was very good at appearing as le wholesome streamer too and that facade fell away in recent years which contributed to people just leaving.

>>717242775
Asmongold and its consequences have been a disaster for XIV.

>>717243882
Yes anon the balenciaga mod is gonna put mustard gas into your pc

>>717244072
She canonically has a low IQ, and that is no joke.
Example: failing miserably at the Milala quiz, which was piss-easy.

>>717244145
Just have ai do it

They're not gonna kill Sphene off and you want to know why? Because they're planning to sell her casual outfit on the cash shop, and they know people would feel bad/weird wearing the glam of a dead character, especially a beloved one like her. Dead character glams don't sell.

>>717243320
imagine you had a magical metamaterial that could change its shape, density, color, etc according to your desires. The only limitations on it is that it requires lots of electricity to shape it. That's electrope.

Everything in S9 is built by shaping and combining blocks of electrope to construct stuff, it doesn't degrade in any meaningful way and is easy to replace with new pieces since your only building material is interchangeable with every non-organic object in your society.

>have the whole of tural to use for patch stories
>focus everything on Solution 9 and if you complain you get shit like FINAL FANTASY ALWAYS HAD TECHNOLOGY BIGOT
It's just so tiresome

>>717244225
the crown plot is so fucking stupid. just something you would expect from a low rate theater writer.

>>717244225
They won’t kill sphere because she’s the link to the shard hopping.
Remember, they have to reveal who made the goblet how they jumped across shards initially.

>>717244093
Except we were told she hangs out talking to people in the city all day and one of her first friends we meet is the Pelu Pelu running the whole merchant area.

>>717244225
sis, your ysayle mogslop?

>>717236356
sphene has awakened me to hotpants over tights

>>717244225
Don't they sell Ysayle's costume? I don't think they really care as long as they can make some money.

>>717244095
>Im scared of dying
it was better when FF9 did it, not surprised hiroi would handle the plot point so badly while adapting 9 to ff14

>>717244318
They already did that. Azem made it and the Aloalo Lalafells used it to escape the fifth umbral era. It functions based on honest wishes which is why Calyx programmed Speen to end up in a desperate situation where she'd be forced to use it.

>>717244296
>go into Tural
>see new people
>learn about my culture bigot
>0/4 weekajeeba niggas talked to

That quest in 7.1 where you’re fighting the crocodiles trying to eat the elephants, and puss in boots says,
>the elephants are Tulilolalyi’s too!

I’m gonna unsub again at this rate.

>>717235471 (OP)
she did have a king/prince bf in alexandria?

>>717244095
Knowing what we know we shouldn't be allowed the use of those regulators anyway. It goes against everything the Scions have learned and believe but we're not supposed to judge??

>>717244386
Vivi is through the eyes of a child, it’s a different narrative setup.
It’s definitely better, but you can’t have the lizard child doing the same plot beats.

The problem is that the phoenix down head chips are an inherently flawed narrative concept.
You can’t bring that concept in when we have established the aether, the soul splitting, resorting back from the Lifestream, the primals.

Those concepts don’t mesh, and it undercuts the original concepts.

>>717244430
Don't compare that lovable movie cat to the furfag tranny.

>>717244386
To be fair they stuffed the real plot of the expansion into 2.5 zones while the other 5.5 were aggressively wasting time, not to mention expansions usually get 2 patches of buildup before they launch and DT got half of one patch.

Focusing on the writing and characters alone won't tell the full story.

>>717244496
>characters are horrified
>they're even a fair bit upset
>also it's an enemy nation that's threatening to go to war with them, and it's clear that the promise of soul charges in the regulators has fucking warped people's perception of death
>oh yeah and we fucking played through the goddamn Amaurot's Final Days and the Dead Ends with the Scions and everything, we've seen exactly where this kind of morality and ignorance for survival has led several times over
>"it's not our place to do anything about it"
Dawntrail doesn't just piss me off because of Wuk or the dumb plot or how fast things get abandoned. It actually makes me fucking hate the Scions.

>>717244225
She's not going to die, because Calyx still needs her.
He kept her around for 400 years.

honestly just delete tural and replace it with the mist continent

>>717244635
I feel the same. It literally is our place to do something about it, that's what the Scions have always done.
Souls MUST return to the lifestream or shit doesn't work. These regulators are in direct opposition to that it boggles the mind how they just shrug their shoulders and say it's their culture so it must be respected.

It’s shocking how consistently bad Dawntrails story is.

Like usually, in other bad stories, the quality is all over the place because they’re trying really hard to make something good, but they lack the skill.
So you have plot beats that range from 3/10 to 9/10 moments that last 5 seconds right before dropping right back down.

In Tural, those highs would be considered the boss fights, but narratively? The whole thing is flatlined. It’s a 5/10 the whoooole way through.

It’s honestly impressive.

FFXIV lost GW2 won

>>717244537
That's the entire point of the regulators and the tower they use. It hijacks the natural process of death by absorbing the souls, wiping their memories, and implanting a new soul in a person's body and uploading memories to it.

The people in solution 9 don't even have their own souls if they've ever died. They have someone else's soul that's been artificially wiped of memories and imprinted with their own.

This COULD be a horrifying concept if done correctly, but Hiroi is a fucking retard and YoshitP is too much of a coward to go full horror mode and depict the entire system as the nightmare scenario it could be.

>>717244941
Holy fuck what is that thing

>>717244892
can you stop spacing out your thoughts

Is Y'shtola allowed to exist again or do they still focus on Wuk, Sphene and such? I won't resub until I can adventure with characters I like again.

>>717244225
They're not going to kill her off for the same reason they didn't kill Y'shtola off and instead killed the least popular scion. It's because she's popular.
The only reason they killed off Minfilla was because her JP VA was too expensive to re-hire. Also the reason why certain characters just magically appear in Endwalker in post-patch shit when the story became absolute slop.

>>717244941
At least GW2 is open about its gear being purely cosmetic.
Game's extremely mediocre though.

Sumsum

>>717241809
I will haven't played dawntrail despite owning it already.
I'm almost looking forward to how shit Wuk is going to be.
I think I'll honestly be disappointed if DT is just okay at this point.
It needs to be something extreme at least.

>>717245060
GW2 has one of the best honeymoon periods I've ever experienced in an MMO though. After a bit you realize how shallow it is though. I played for years before quitting.

>>717244985
Be here tuesday morning when im yelling about stupid erenville, guloolja, alisaie , retard quests.

>>717244941
Don't start this

>>717245060
>>717245121
Yeah after getting a few mounts it started feeling like well what am I even doing except logging on to do mediocre pvp.

>>717244985
Has she ever been allowed to exist?

>>717245237
>That FFXIV screenshot
Uh oh

what a shitload of fuck...
what were they thinking?

>>717244985
You are literally wrong for not liking whatever characters the devs put into the game.

So when they were making DT and in the writing/developer room ahead of its launch
Do you think yoship and the team genuinely thought people would like Wuk Lamat and how ubiquitous she is within the story?

>>717242418
>top ten just out of spite
Why are they like this? Why do they feel the need to prop up shitty things that aren't good just because it fits their cultish obsessions?

>>717245529
doubtful they were involved in the re-write in the runup to launch, they handed the reins to consultancy firms

Let me adventure with Lyse again.

And put her back in the shorts and vest. Not that gay dress.

>>717245529
I think there was just no quality control period.
Like half the lines in every language you can hear the characters mics peaking.
So instead of supervision and direction you just have aimless stupid shit like wondering around an area building an air conditioner for a guy that works for goblins for some reason(Not explained probably couldn't get a goblin to sit so made him a generic mi'qote instead)

>>717245661
Just sounds like you want her to be Yda again, which I agree.

>They keep Sphene alive
>But they reveal she has a romantic interest who's not (you)
They did this with Y'shtola and Runar in ShB, and recently they did it again with Eutrope and Retsarra (randomly revealing she snd him are boyfriend and girlfriend, right after establishing her terminal soul-illness can be cured). Hell you could go REAL far and argue Gaia x Ryne was done to cuck players who shipped their WOL with Ryne by making her a lesbian.The writers of CS3 DESPISE straight male players, which is why every conventionally attractive female character either dies, gets sidelined, or cucks (you). Yoshi-P is even on record for saying that he doesn't want to pander to waifu lovers (which was why he chastised the writers for that "Froth and and Foam scene with Y'shtola).

>>717236356
feeeet

>>717245734
It was explained, the goblins used to keep slaves until Wuk's dad told them that slaves are unhappy so the goblins decided to start making their workers SMILE

>>717245882
Y'know this expansion has the opportunity to do the funniest thing and it's having Wuk Lamat tragically die in a cutscene and then start playing SMILE.

>>717245778
If the shoe fits.

>>717245782
>which was why he chastised the writers for that "Froth and and Foam scene with Y'shtola
Did he?

>>717245782
>Yoshi-P is even on record for saying that he doesn't want to pander to waifu lovers
rare yoshitpiss win

>>717244962
It’s a tacky concept because they’re taking the ethereal concept of the soul and the Lifestream and trying to reduce it to a narrative trope, like the soul is a Kamehameha ball or something.

It’s a shit concept. There’s no reverence around the topic, it’s just a ball of light being sent up to some digital kingdom while being processed on a computer somehow.

It’s hallmark of a shit writer.

>>717245782
The WoL can't have a girlfriend, he's combatsexual.

>>717245983
Don't worry they pander to fujos instead here's another cutscene with Gaius and Estinien making out.

>>717245529
of course they did, why do you think they kept forcing the meme about her getting seasick and not being good at handling spicy food?
they legitimately thought they struck gold.

>>717236513
>alliance raid good
killing off every god except the bishonen one and getting rid of all the mysticism in the setting isn't what I'd call good, when I heard about the plot I got very relieved from quiting after 6.0 MSQ

>>717244982
That’s how you fucking write in this website.

You space out the sentences to give focus to people reading it, because to form of posts is small.

>but that’s heckin reddit posting!

It’s not you fucking 2018 tourist. I’ll pull out the fucking jpegs and embarrass your ass.

>>717246035
Yeah. Hence why it's surprising when he has a good take once in a blue moon.

>>717245882
Yeah it's kinda weird how the shit with the Moblins is kinda just glossed over. They were literally kidnapping artisans and holding them prisoner while forcing them to work in sweatshops

>>717245529
Production was rushed. They were trying to make a Luffy character without the polish of One Piece.

The main writers were probably also on a different project too.
In all, it’s more about XIV being left in the state it was in after Endwalker. These narrative hiccups started to show up in the second half of EW anyway with Elpis and the bird.

>>717246012
Tataru molested him and it scarred him for life

>>717246012
tranny character and tranny poster.

>>717245782
But that froth and foam scene is kino…

>>717246172
It's because again there's no quality control. Wuk Lamat has quirks that are just forgotten in the next area. It's like reading someones tumblr mental illness blog and asking them why their crippling fear of heights isn't kicking up today on the roller coaster.

>>717245782
>Chastising the writers for a scene he approved after the fact
Is he retarded?

>>717246172
lore accurate south america

>>717245782
Don't forget Mikoto randomly revealing she's in love with Cid at the end of the Bozja storyline (despite nowhere hinting this even remotely prior). Seriously if I'm a straight male WOL what are even my romantic options at this point?

>>717246340
Alisaie!

>>717246340
Unironically? Probably Krile or Nanamo at this point.

>>717245965
>>717246258
He was afraid that they were going too far with Y'shtola and fans might not like it, despite that being the patch that made Y'shtola and Estinien fans very, very happy. It really feels he is just too far removed from the actual game audience by now.

>>717246325
He walked on stage and said "We won't have diverse and branching jobs because it's too hard to balance" then proceded to put 2 people visible in the credits on Job balance so yes.

>>717243617
This is from this patch alone. Somebody made a chart showing that literally half the gear from Dawntrail is modern/casual shit.

>>717245782
>But they reveal she has a romantic interest who's not (you)
plot twist it's actually WoLs 9th shard

>>717246395
is a pig.

>>717246427
>armorcore virgins booty blasted.

these guys are retards

>during the last update cycle they straight up changed and removed scenes from the 7.0 storyline
>Many of them were fist clench scenes
If they knew it was excessive, why have them in the first place? And how didn't Wuk slice her hands up with them knife claws?

>>717246427
To be fair the latter half of this expansion is modernslop that looks straight out of Deus Ex Human Revolution
Nobody cares about taco land

>>717246486
erping with other grown men doesn't count as losing your virginity second life tranny

>>717246406
When did he say this? Because after the “step on me” stuff, I don’t believe it.

>>717246340
Don't worry! Aymeric is right there! There's even a scene that's framed as a romantic date for some reason in the MSQ.

>>717246427
I'm so glad I don't have waste time grinding pvp ranks this patch

ARR > 7/10
HW > 9/10
SB > 3/10
SHB > 4/10
EW > 2/10
Post-EW > 4/10
DT > unsubbed in 6.5/10

>>717246570
Did they actually?

>>717246602
Would you say you asked for this gear?

>>717246696
Yes

>>717246686
Is this like the contrarian I just started the game rankings or something?

>>717246686
bait used to mean something.

>>717246570
>>717246696
>consultation rewrite slop
>actively no management

which one?

>>717246686
Here’s the real scores. Based on story only. Patches included.
>ARR: 7/10
>HW: 9/10
>SB: 7.5/10
>Shb: 9.5/10
>EW: 8/10
>DT: 5/10

Now content?
>ARR: 7/10
>HW: 7/10
>SB: 9/10
>Shb: 7.5/10
>EW: 6/10
>DT: 9/10

>>717246805
No management guaranteed. Y'shtolas VA's microphone is audibly fucked up in the 7.0 MSQ. It sounds like she's talking on an Xbox microphone.

>>717246921
Why didn’t I hear this? I was actively listening for it as well on release.

>>717247014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXfCNSz-g4A
A few others were fucked up too like Thancreds. She doesn't get many lines so you might not have noticed.

>>717246395
>>717246625
why does yoshi P want us to fuck elezen so much? what's the agenda?

>>717247242
It’s a Japanese “young bride” thing. Like a daughter he’s giving off.

>>717243615
>cute hag who plays videogame
I miss TuaTeatime's comfy streams.

WW is such a great expansion
Getting a Beach-Episode-El-Dorado-Treasure-Hunt-Scion-Fun-Expansion was such a breath of fresh air. Just incredible.

>>717235471 (OP)
Any post dawntrail content is locked behind DT and the only people who played that were the ones who didn't know it would be garbage going in. That wont work any more. What's the long term solution? New players will reach the troon cat soiner or later.

>>717246876
>Shb: 7.5/10
>DT: 9/10
explain

>>717247354
Really cleared up all that grand story where you save the universe fatigue I was really having by having Wuk Lamat save da worl instead.

>>717246686
Based, ShBtrannies must be kept in check

>>717246427
bro if I wanted to play modern fantasy slop I'd play xenogears

>>717246876
I tend to agree. For all of its faults, the content in DT is what's keeping me subbed right now. Two of the best savage since I started, even if the first one was undertuned af.

>>717246686
Shb has the best highs.
But my goodness half the expansion is pure filler. That minecart bit is just as bad as the Dawntrail train.

>>717247273
but she has a boy body

>>717247436
It's more retarded bait obviously.
>Hurr durr one tier of an okay savage has saved the game!!!!

>>717246395
>17 years 364 days 23 hours 59 seconds old girl
Yikes... hopefully Kate will set those backwards jap savages straight and put a stop to your pedo fantasies next expansion.

>>717247648
I want koji back desu

>>717247597
For now, just wait for that growth spurt bro

>>717247693
I've been waiting for 5 expansions...

Just came back to xiv. What in the fuck is an "Intersocietal Quest"? Is this word even real?

>>717247503
>Undertuned
More like the hilariously overpowered Pictomancer trivialized the savage and the ultimate.
I guess it worked in the long run since people think the 2nd tier is gods gift to mankind after they added difficulty back to the game by nerfing picto after everyone got complacent. First tier was kind of ass though outside of it being kinda comical.

>>717246406
That sucks, I found it real cute that she showed a silly side she keeps hidden.

>>717246340
>I'm a straight male WOL what are even my romantic options at this point?
Been here since HW

If the WoL fucks a different Azem shard, would that count as masturbation?

>>717246613
>>717246325
https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/202206030001/

>Yoshida onthatY’shtola scene: “I really was at a loss what to do… There was a part of me that felt, aren’t we getting a bit carried away here? One point we pay attention to is not to turn Y’shtola into a joke. For sure, within the community, you’ve got things like people calling her ‘mummy’, but it would be wrong to indulge that. Properly speaking we should handle Y’shtola’s character properly, and I don’t much like just drawing on this one character trait. So, I felt this is the breaking point and we shouldn’t go further than this. By the way, I hear Y’shtola’s voice actor Kayano Ai performed a lot of different takes on this scene.” He continued: “I’m thinking we should stop breaking the characters any more than this. This time, it ended up with Y’shtola having a magical girl phase where she was self-consciously cute [laughs bitterly].”

>>717248004
I'll tell you after my date with Zero

>>717248016
>I’m thinking we should stop breaking the characters any more than this.
How the fuck is it character breaking? We've known about her cringy magical girl phase since ShB

>>717248016
That is such a joyless take and explains so much at the same time. We will never get any fun RP scenes with the Scions because the man who thought XVI was a good idea doesn't want characters to be human and have any levity.

>>717248004
>WoL soulvores Sphene
>Sphene and Ardbert have wild and messy sex inside the WoL all day while Fray watches

>>717248094
That ain't gonna work until you stick Golbez' Memoria crystal up your ass as well

>>717235471 (OP)
My biggest cope is that Sphene joins us as a traveling companion, it most likely won't happen but I'd rather live in delusion until tomorrow breaks me

>>717248016
>I don't much like just drawing on this one character trait
>doesn't like her showing more character depth
what

>>717248154
but I'm not even a dragoon right now!

>>717247724
two more weeks

Its not fair that estinien got a fun vacation and wol got stuck playing backup dancer to wuk

>>717248157
Sphene will die and during her funeral Wuk Lamat will tell the WoL that she will adventure with us in her place, because that's what Sphene would want

>>717248253
If that happens I'm mailing my own shit to Yoshi-P's postal address

>Sphene gets whisked away by some unseen fiend
>the new over-arching goal of the game's story is to find her again
hire me, yoshida

>>717241647
There was nothing wrong with /ksg/ during its heyday, it's when when the most soul came out of the community surrounding that VN. Fanfics, pseudo routes, decent quality fanart and OC, people motivating each other to improve their lives and get exercising. Then schizos showed up, drove out most people and you are now stuck with the same three regards arguing "Was it rape?" for the last fifteen years.

>>717242418
its not for a lack of personality its from the lack of anything substantial from having the character around. Wuk Lamat goes through entire character arcs in fucking minutes and the problems that her people seemed almost manufactured in suck a hacknee way, like look this pic related he literally had NO REASON to be the fucking dickhead he was supposed to be its almost fucking flabbergasting how stupid the writing for this expansion and it was all centered around the VERY character they're trying to defend.

Wuk Lamat and her "Problems" Bog the entire game down.

>>717248253
if they do that, I'll unironically register for bluesky just to shit on the FF14 account

But what of good Hoary Boulder?

>>717242742
I would feel dirtied sticking my dick into that.

>>717248303
>sphene gets kidnapped
>wuk pledges to rescue speeen
>we tag along as her sidekick

Wuk will choke on a four bean burrito with extra cheese and will unleash the beast from her bowels as she falls down the stairs.

>>717248356
He and his brother are in Gridania smashing a highlander girl in both holes

>>717246054
>killing off every god except the bishonen one
But we did kill Thaliak.

>>717248356
Too busy fucking the roemaxing sluts of Team B.

>>717248373
no
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717248253
>Next expansion gets announced a week after the cutscene
>Revenge of the Ascians
>Real name all along was Wuk Lahabrea

>>717248409
THE WORLD SHALL TREMBLE
UNLEASH WUK LAMAT

>>717248356
Scion team B is out having fun adventures in exotic locations while helping people in need. So we aren't going to be following them.

>>717248373
thank you wuk-sama for letting me come with you on your journey.

>>717236725
>yeah yeah we all love the graffiti lala.
She was an obvious symptom of a healing game.

>>717248490
Why? Outside of the 15% of players who engage with Savage, the holy M6S with the revolutionary ADD mechanic adds nothing for the vast majority playing this game. I am so bewildered how DT defender are so adamant that this side content is somehow fixing the game, while the engagement clearly shows most people are tired of hard XIV encounter design.

>>717248490
Hope so

>>717248303
How about this:
>The WoL gets whisked away by some unseen fiend
>the new over-arching goal of the game's story is to break out and find the way back to our friends

>>717248570
15% of westerners
savage is 50% in jp

>>717248605
It's like 12.5% in the west and 20% in Japan, averaging at 15something overall.

>>717248250
That is like the most fucked up part to me. what the fuck is this writing.
>niggas eating cactuars too

Krile better get a proper bit of story in 8.0 because DT is a lost cause

>>717248332
>man zoraal ja was retarded they should have fleshed him out more
>7.1

NO NOT LIKE THAT

hiroi cant write.

>>717246054
Anon that was the previous alliance raid series, 7.1 was the XI crossover.
I do agree that outright killing the gods off was a little premature though, should have just been them letting off excess aether back to the world, or maybe have them all do the now mortal lifespan thing.

>>717248356
he and coultenelt are in grahas home town that is a destroyed imperial remnant place
corvis or corvus. arabs, cat tribes, and imperial garleniggers fled back to the capital.

Modernsloppers, our time has finally arrived. The time of armorsloppers is over. Show me your glam!
seething and malding armorfags aren't invited

This thread got me thinking
Does WoW have as huge a casual problem as XIV?
Like, does 90% of the audience refuse to touch Mythic Plus or whatever WoW's weekly raid tier is called no matter how many rewards are tied to it?

>>717248356
>having fun adventures all over the place
>low stakes, no world threatening crisis
>rough and loving sex every night
>never having to deal with politics or the likes of Wut
>just enjoying a pure and fulfilling adventurer life
Team B WON so fucking hard it's unreal.

>>717248148
>Fray also covers Mystes eyes

>>717248726
She was the second lead in Dawntrail and got more screen time than any other character sans Wuk. She even got way, way more trailer footage while dancing around as magical PCT girl.
DT was her expansion and she'll probably get Lyse'd off to Tural after this.

>>717248472
Felt like the old writers sent them to different places for various plot threads and the retarded theater kid writer failure just wrote slop again.

>>717248591
>You have been granted control of the powerful warrior Wuk Lama!t
>Battle through the prison to rescue the Warrior of Light!
>Broken up intermittently by you locked in a cell until you interact with the bed.

>>717236657
It didn't need a writing change for 7.2 it just needed a mandate change, everything wrong with what came before could clearly be traced to progressive ideology, that's Yoshida not Hiroi.
There may well be a whole ass better alternate script for Dawntrail from before Yoshida came in crying there can't be a white saviour.

>>717248784
No, because WoW players are men and play the game, unlike FFXIV players who are trannies and only play dressup to live out their tranny fantasies

>>717248784
if you consider bots as casuals then yes, they just occupy server space without actually doing content.

>>717248784
Yes, look up WoW guides of what the fuck to even do to get geared it's filled to the brim with do this pointless content for some shit gear instead of running a mythic+1 key that casuals slop up.
Most people just fly around and collect shit like it's a completionist game.

>>717238854
I've been playing X and after the tournament was over I haven't looked back at blitzball
I should get back to X, I lost a lot of motivation after getting a distressing phone call in the middle of the fight against Seymour

>>717248570
You stupid fucking nigger, I was just posting a cute character with a fun fight.
Why the fuck would I engage with someone who has a chip on his shoulder over a 7/10 mmo?
Goddamn dude.

>>717248784
WoW's problems are basically boiled down to a ton of veterans that are just replaying the same shit endlessly, whether with new alts from the ground up, or at endgame for number go up. No one ever talks the casual experience because it has nothing to really lure a casual audience in.

>>717248784
yes
most wow players do nothing but grind collectibles like toys pets mounts titles achievements all day long
probably even more than in xiv since xiv loves to throw "kill five billion S ranks for a single title" kMMO tier grind cheevos at you

>>717248784
WoW goes out of their way to please the casual audience. Even if you don't do M+ or raiding you still can participate in the gear threadmill and work on your character, down to getting set bonuses. I have no idea why gearing is so shit in XIV, the 450 tomes is retarded, so is the fact that the alliance raid gear is literally already outdated the second it hits. For a game that lets you switch Jobs on the fly it is unreal that you barely get to gear up.

I kind of suspect its because they don't want to hurt Savage Troon feelings when the 85% of the playerbase not participating in their discord troonery gets the same toys as them.

>>717248942
god I wanna fuck krile

>>717242418
>if you don't like this videogame character you don't habe a personality
What the fuck does one have to do with the other? What the literal fuck does this mean? May as well say
>hating the color green isn't going to make your teeth whiter!

>>717242417
Difference is that with Dawntrail there's a good chance of >>717248843
Lot easier to justify retconing it all if the thing you are retconing it to was written first.

>>717248785
>Clemence learning both AST and SCH
>Aenor only has one roe
>hoary and coultenent eating kebabs
>ephimi freezing her tits off telling stories to garleniggers
>arenvald in a wheel chair getting pushed by his b team scion cat friends
>roes looking for roe viking island
>riol in merycydia seeing human sacrifice with plant people and centaur lizards

JUST LET THE WOL HANG OUT WITH THE B TEAM SCIONS ALREADY

>>717248957
I remember the meltdowns in HW about how the relic was better than the raid weapon and people complaining about how they HAD to grind it to be BiS.
So yeah probably, people will complain about what's the point in getting the gear when, yeah what the fuck is the point you're using the gear you get from the raid to do the raid better.

>>717240516
Hot any recommendations?

>>717248775
I generally defend modernslop but those new gold saucer prizes take it way too far.

>>717249042
Maybe we should "retire" WoL and make a second litwho adventurer who goes on lowstakes adventures with the B team

>>717248990
You and me both, anon.

>>717249140
Better yet just undercover boss around with them while acting like an inexperienced adventurer.

>>717242502
>They aren't hacks
Anon, they couldn't even keep the story the same as the jp thanks to koji fox. The majority of major plot points in the English translation are borderline fanfiction thanks to them using absolutely wrong terms and rewording things in such ways that it completely changed the context.

>>717248784
>>717248854
>>717248906
>>717248954
>>717248957
>the casual problem
You play XIV. You are the fucking casuals. The bigshot XIV ultimate streamers get filtered by heroics and mid tier keys. The XIV raid scene is 80% just the shitters that couldn't cut it in WoW enjoying being a big fish in a small pond.

>>717249191
>while acting like an inexperienced adventurer.
so like wol and scions are doing in DT's MSQ so far? (I quit like after the coronation ceremony/invasion part)

>>717249252
You tell them wowbro, our professional raiders solve ffxiv raid mechanics without even paying attention and they get called cheaters like our man Max

>>717249252
shut the fuck up blizztroon. when you subhumans did your cringe streamer-led exodus half your fucking playerbase installed mods to even play the fucking game for you just like you do in your dumbass cheater heaven. you literally cannot play games unless you have constant alarms going "BEWARE" "RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL"

Raiding just isn't fun man... I just... sorry but... I just won't engage with it. Have fun with that title tho, nice job man.

>>717249252
Echo players said FFXIV ultimates are the best fights they've ever played.

>>717249252
>WoW raids a ha-ACK
https://www.twitch.tv/scripe/clip/ChillySmokyRadishSoBayed-5a6DfXJFpNtteeJw

>>717249390
sour grapes

>>717249252
So which mythic WoW guild do you play in and I mean play not sit on the bench perpetually and brag about being in a mythic guild while having 0 boss kills on your character.

>>717249390
Pulling Mentors into ARR Extremes was fun
>barrier to entry is visiting the tomestone girl and buying Garland Ironworks gear
>watch a video and the fight is explained in just a handful of mechanics, tank swap Ramuh, stack for Shiva's sword ect.
>no positioning, you can just freestyle

>>717249252
>commit the entire simon says script to memory by bruteforcing the fight over and over
VS
>addons literally solve the bossfight as well as your own class rotation for you
Pic related, the so-called "hardcore" MMO players.

>>717249567
I've tried to sync that shit before and holy shit was novice network the whiniest group of bitches asking me why don't I just unsync it.
Like idk dude maybe because I want to and have friends that want to and specifically have a pf up for it.

>>717249629
I'll be honest, the latter sounds far more appealing.

>>717249660
you dont have any friends.

>Wol finally fucks Alisaie
>From behind
>whispers "Twelve, Alphinaud you're so tight" into her ear
How much would this break her?

>>717249681
I was only trying to sync it for my group of friends I got into the game.
Got to do it and add 8 retards who don't play the game to my blacklist.

>>717249716
shes would sudoku. she is literally the worst levellieur and a pig

>>717249680
thankfully you can do that in xiv too because the devs don't give a shit about cheaters

>>717249716
I want you to know that everyone in this thread dislikes you and that you are gay.

>>717249567
Getting extremes doing mentors roulettes really shows how much fight design has changed. I mentored every extreme up to the end of Stormblood and you could mostly just pull and give some explanations.
But then you get Titania and the first thing you do is place markers and make people take assigned spots, and at least those are water puddles so it's not too convoluted. Maybe someone misses their puddle but it's manageable.
But then you get Hades, how the fuck do you Mentor blind sprouts through fucking Hades extreme?

>>717249839
Nah he's right and based and I like him

>>717249716
She'd cum instantly, despite her protests

Imagine using add ons in a video game. Imagine how stupid you have to be.

>>717249629
Nta but
>ACT
>Open
>Cactbot
>installed
>Alexander
>Overclocked for quinta weaving
>Dalamud
>Launched
>Wrath Combo
>Enabled
>Splatoon
>Engaged
>Pixel Perfect
>Perfected
>Auto Duty
>Never off
>FFXIV_Bossmod
>Do you even have to ask?
Yup it's raiding time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxDx-tkEhsw&t=81s

>>717249882
mmo players are a special breed of retarded

>>717249867
Funnily enough the complexity of fights rose and shortly after Jobs got culled. CS3 is 100%, absolutely in love with their bosses and encounter design and it just fucking sucks. Even the charm point for DD is now "Once you do it you can fight a harder boss! :D" as if that does anything to make DD better.

>>717246007
They did that multiple times throughout the story though.
Even in 2.0, with the alchemist quests, and Moenbryda in the msq.
The lack of reverence is in fact a major theme of the Alexandria story.
All aspects of life, body, soul, and memories, have been commodified and manipulated to serve as entertainment or currency.
Alexandrians are just now learning that life isn't as worthless as they believed. That dying is tragic, random, and leaves an impact. That the body with all it's flaws and vulnerabilities has value. That memories are better kept than stored in a dimensional repository.
Dawntrail's concepts are 10/10, but the execution has just clawed it's way from awful to alright in 7.2.

Problem is, since the story has been pretty shit in .0 and .1 most people aren't engaged enough with the story to see the themes at play.

>>717249914
nobody expects you to have all this shit in xiv because it's a tos violation and can get your account terminated if you talk about it in-game. you have to in a discord grooming clique to cooperate installing all this shit.
meanwhile if you don't have all the equivalents in wow you ain't fucking joining a raid group ever, some of the addons can even warn you there are players in your party without them installed so good luck pretending you're a functional human being who wants to play videogames insteads

>>717249867
So glad I copped my flute on my first successful clear of Hades Ex Unsynced
I had no idea what was happening

>>717248303
I actually would kind of like this

>>717250039
I'm just saying it's pretty bad when world first groups use this shit and the only person doing anti-cheat is the guy running the parsing website since he bans them from said website.
Most world first groups modify their Alexander AT MINIMUM to allow them to quadra weave and most streamers use this shit it just doesn't appear on stream since they were banning them on sight for using it.
If you open OBS for instance after you open the game it won't pick up splatoon. But if you have it open before you start the game it will show all that addon shit. It's why streamers never open or start the game on stream.

>>717249946
Good, we need more complex and interesting fights, job design has and should bend to make that possible.

Dollar store Krile lookin ass

>>717250009
>it’s a 10/10 concept it’s just done really bad

It can’t be done well, commodifying metaphysical aspects because there’s an emotional aspect to it as well in narrative tropes.

You can just say,
>Well we took the memories out and yeah
You have to have dialogue about what memory means and how it influences people.

There’s no way to make this sort of narrative device good.

>>717249867
since when does mentor roulette pop into extremes? when i was doing that miserable grind all the Extremes i got was a bunch of newfaggots queueing into ARR extremes because they get a quest for them, another mentor would copypaste their "stop queueing for extremes, make a pf and get boosted unsynced" macro, instantly leave and not get replaced before the group fragments.

>>717249867
I went basically straight from ARR extremes and I think having done them all MINE with a little poking at stormblood with varying results to trying to fight valigarmanda, shit was an absurd leap. And then the 7.2 unreal I never managed to get past the enrage, but I saw some people say the 7.3 one should be better in that regard.

>>717250206
You leave Ayoyo alone.

>>717248356
I unironically popped off when I heard Hoary Boulder, having voice acting, at the beginning of 6.0 MSQ.

>>717244635
>>oh yeah and we fucking played through the goddamn Amaurot's Final Days and the Dead Ends with the Scions and everything, we've seen exactly where this kind of morality and ignorance for survival has led several times over
>>"it's not our place to do anything about it"
That's what happened in ultima thule too.
We meet their conclusions, accept them, and accept that life is still worth living regardless.
You didn't shit on the omicrons for killing the dragons, for example.
Even the tribal quests were about helping them continue on instead of admonishing them for their fuckups.
The Ea didn't suddenly become mortal, they just had kids. Same with the dragons.
Telling Alexandrians that they're fucked up and wrong won't solve anything, just like it didn't solve the Ala Mhigans, Garleans, or any other fucked up society we've seen.

Based on how the roulette fills up and pops off post Dawntrail vs pre, I can tell the game has lost about half of its player base.

It’s conjecture, but it’s also after 10 years of playing.

Love Sphene so much but knowing the faggots at Creative Studio 3 they'll probably kill her tomorrow

>>717250523
i stopped doing roulettes because all my jobs are a level cap
obviously this means i quit the game

>>717250356
AYO

>only gooners still play the game
>pander to woke troons from twitter and only add gender neutral garbage instead
I wish mods would break, the very few people still playing would quit instantly

>>717250523
The game has trouble even popping basic bitch MSQ duties these days. Shit is dire.

>>717250295
I did the full 2k mentor grind roughly during the WoW player influx and I got every ARR-ShB extreme except SoS and Memoria Misera at least once. Of course, ARR and HW were way more common than SB and ShB but they did pop here and there.
I also had join duty in progress, that probably helped. I liked trying to clear every extreme that popped even if it's really time-inefficient and wasn't even a guaranteed clear, I encouraged sprouts to stay and wait for refills lol.

>>717250039
You are delusional. Most people doing ultimates use simulators to learn the fight on their own. This is considered normal in 2025, that's howbwidespread this shit is

>>717250617
Mare is going to be down for at least the next week so you might see some melties.

>>717250617
Why would you have a picture like that saved if you hate it so much?

>>717250665
>week
A couple of days tops.

>>717250638
>I did the full 2k mentor grind roughly during the WoW player influx
oof. my condolences.

>>717250687
>he didn't read the announcement
The dev is moving house and won't have internet. That's why it was down yesterday ahead of time.

>>717250645
>my static does it that means every does it
ok cheater, let me know when you actually decide to play the videogame you pay for

>>717250670
I hate how xiv only add ugly outfits now. Mods are the only thing keeping people from noticing it

>>717250638
>I did the full 2k mentor grind roughly during the WoW player influx
That had to be the most miserable shit imaginable

Back when I was a free to play player, I did all ARR extremes and the first tier of Bahamut in DF. Me explaining Twintania mechanics to the group of randoms and then somehow beating it was one of the best experiences I had in the game.
I think most of us were sprouts with maybe 1 or 2 mentors.

>>717250516
That was different. Those scenes in Endwalker were to showcase nihilism to the player.

It wasn’t about judgment, it was about carrying the burdens of those races and moving on regardless. That’s exactly what the walk up the stairs is with the twins at the end.

With Alexandria, none of that exists. Not that I like it in Endwalker, it’s too meta, but in 7.0 there’s no reason for it.
There’s not even a moral dilemma of shutting Living memory down. It’s just a literal process.

>>717250243
I disagree with your first point. The commodifying of the metaphysical has direct parallels that anyone can understand. To the point that the raid story is the most on the nose parallel possible with it's wrestling story destroying the lives and bodies of the stars.
Plus removing the emotional aspect because the society sees it as natural everyday occurrences works in setting, and makes for a good contrast for the characters and (You) the player.
It may be done well, but you're right in that it hasn't been so far.

>>717250716
Yeah, I wasn't reading shit because I don't stay in those places, I set up my accounts and immediately left and scrubbed my profile too. Such to be them I guess, I don't even really use it, since I just trade pics with my friend directly.

>>717250742
You just don't play the game or are delusional if you think people don't use addons. Go pull the boss when someones afk and see what happens.

>patch is tomorrow
well fuck my pvp rewards, I didn,t play the game enough

>>717250892
You can buy it with trophy crystals in two years so it's not gone forever.

>two years
The game will be dead by that point

>>717250039
>nobody expects you to have all this shit in xiv because it's a tos violation and can get your account terminated if you talk about it in-game
Nobody tell this guy about ultimate PF {allagan melon}

>>717250984
two more years wowsisters...

>>717249914
Back in HW and SB people only used ACT with their own triggers
I hate gen Z raiders, all troons, all shitters, they ruined every job

>>717250742
Delusional again. I guarantee you at least half of your static members use XIVlauncher

>>717250837
I’ll give an example. In FFVII, this concept exists of commodifying the metaphysical with mako and Shinra.

However, the undertones aren’t explained or gone into because they’re above humanity. That’s the restraint in a story like that, that the nature of reality is above the author.

That’s why the concept doesn’t work, because to expose and systemise the soul and aether like that is to place the author’s musings above it.
It’s like if in VII, there was a scene where Vincent explains how exactly Aerith came back and how her magic could still be utilised to stop meteor, instead of the original ending.

>>717251078
>using the launcher is the same as using boss automation mods
lmao here's your last pity (You)

>we're just supposed to let alexandrians cannibalise and annihilate human souls cus its they culture

>>717250645
simulators are not cheating

>>717251040
It's not gen z raiders. I know the people who pioneered this shit and most of them are raiders or 9th/10th men in current world prog groups.
It's all world proggers who realized they could just openly cheat.
One of the 9th men just runs a github that directly feeds triggernometry triggers into their ACT as they prog while also pulling all the ability names through a websocket.

World prog is hilariously cheated even when streamed.

>>717251130
And here we go
>nooo my 3rd party application is not cheating it's different!!!
Concession accepted

>>717251170
Nice cope

>>717250984
Actually a WoW player said 10 years ago that the game would die and he was wrong therefore XIV can never die.

>>717251130
Yes
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/151RlpqRcCpiD_VbQn6Duf-u-S71EP7d0mx3j1PDNoNA/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0
Here's how to make the "launcher" automatically do duties continuously for you to cap tomes or farm items.

>>717235471 (OP)
Caught up on patch MSQ yesterday. She qt but otherwise it's really not much better than 7.0.

>>717251260
Simulators do not interface in any way with the game so it's literally not even a third-party program. If there was a Sudoku mechanic, Sudoku books wouldn't suddenly become third party apps.
At most you could say some of them use stolen assets which is not allowed, but that's a different part of the ToS.

>>717251272
>here's how to make the launcher (and only the launcher) bot the game
>first step: download 9 mods
Your blackest dumbfuck retard gorilla award, sir

>>717251272
Imagine paying a monthly sub to not play the game.

>>717246607
Buttcape armourcel can't go 5 minutes mentioning trannys

>>717251078
>duuuuude I love typing my password every time
Why wouldn't you use xivlauncher? Everyone should use it

>>717251405
>At most you could say some of them use stolen assets which is not allowed
I don't have to say anything, you already did
>which is not allowed
Aka cheating.

>>717251540
No, you won't get a game suspension for that, you'll get a letter from square's copyright enforcement.
Going to Limsa and shouting "NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER" isn't allowed, but it's not cheating.

I can’t stand XIV’s dialog cutscenes and MSQ quests anymore.

>>717251417
Here it comes, the I lost Ad hominems.
It's the same launcher that downloads any mods that everyone uses.
One of the most downloaded mod off of it literally being the crafting bot with 2 million+ downloads.
But the addon for more waymarker slots? Go check if you actually play the game I think it's about to break 10k downloads.

>>717251150
It's hilarious how Wuk defended it, but the moment the real Sphene found out about it and condemned it, suddenly she also thinks it's bad

>>717250813
It wasn't a dilemma of morals, but one of desire.
Of course you know that the people in living memory aren't real in any the world or the game accepts, but at the same time the ability to visit with the dearly departed would pose a great temptation to anyone who has known loss.
Unfortunately 7.0 was ass and was very tepid on the implications and stakes. Everyone got a farewell, and even the memories were tired of their limited existence. No conflict to get in the way of plot.
No Krile's parents didn't want to stay and catch up with their daughter, no Namikka didn't feel cheated by the time that she lost with Wuk, no Cahciua didn't actually want to live out her dream of exploring the world.
They just wanted to die, so you don't even have to worry about feeling bad or any implications that they are simply a different form of life or anything complicated like that.

>>717251516
Because not only it's not allowed by Square bit on top of that it allows people to cheat. Which is what this discussion was about remember?
>I only use it to avoid typing my password I swear
Lol, lmao

>>717251640
There's a dalamud addon that does them all for you and skips all the cutscenes even the unskippable ones.

>>717251627
You don't get suspended for botting gathering, crafting and even dungeons either yet it is still cheating.

>>717251667
Then why did one of them stick around for a while after the machine was shut down?

>>717251667
>Of course you know that the people in living memory aren't real in any the world or the game accepts

ENDLESS LIVES MATTER

Which one of you made this?
>Name: Can't Breath

>>717251669
Who cares what se fucking say?
And no I also use it for penumbra
If they didn't want people to cheat they would make fun fights like they used to instead of mechanics vomit for the simple boring jobs they created

>>717251642
i use the launcher just to skip the humiliation ritual of typing out your password + 2FA in the same device every fucking time in fucking mid-2025 because these chinks technologically stagnated in the 2000s, no actual addons that give me any advantages in the game. cope and seethe about it, cheater, you will never be the average player

>>717248332
This dumb retard didn't know sweaty lizard sex makes babies

>>717251771
>Shades of once living beings Brough back at the literal edge of existence
vs
>AI replicas fuelled by souls that are harvested from living beings

>>717251225
HOLY SEXO
shame the game doesn't even have half this sex appeal anymore

>>717251894
>anymore

>>717251150
It's their own souls though.
At the end of the msq all of the stored souls are gone and living memory has been shut down so the ones they got from Tuliyolal are gone too.
So they're pretty much just cycling their own souls and the souls of dead Alexandrians, with a small leak with everyone who dies without a regulator's soul returning to the real lifestream.

>>717251706
Well you don't, but you would if enough people reported you and the GM felt like working that day.
We already went through the cheating argument months ago, but to recap: If the application can run in a sandboxed environment separate from the game, it's not a cheat. Examples:
>XIVLauncher and every plugin, requires game to be installed in the same environment -> Cheat
>Discord, can run on a separate environment -> Not cheat
>ACT, requires game to be installed in the same environment -> Cheat
>Simulator, can run on a separate environment -> Not cheat
>Alexander, requires game to be installed in the same environment -> Cheat
Please consult the graphs.

Do Miqo'tes have hairy pussies? Does Y'shtola have a fluffy bush?

>>717251872
Sphene can influence dynamis (she activated the chalice). This proves by the game's own criteria that the endless are truly alive and have value.

>>717251794
>you will never be the average player
>Wrath Combo: 163696 downloads
>Rotation solver: 11323456 downloads
>Artisan: 2746556 downloads
>Simple Tweaks: 6423132 downloads
>People who downloaded XIV launcher so they didn't have to ctrl+V their password: (You)
Yeah whatever buddy.

>>717251761
So you could do your blue quests and get your aether currents.

>>717248784
The whole game is a casual MOGSMOUNTSCHEEVO Shitfest.

>>717252002
The Cum Chalice is aether based you retard.

>>717251642
wowie 2 million downloads? ummm wowsisters our response????

>>717252031
Skip less cutscenes lil pup. The chalice reacts to honest, desperate wishes. It's dynamis.

>>717251771
>so you don't even have to worry about feeling bad or any implications that they are simply a different form of life or anything complicated like that.
Next time, don't be a nigger and read the whole thing.

>>717251789

>>717252075
That half your raid in WoW will be waiting for someone to configure their addons while I just report them in FFXIV for saying it in the chat.

>>717252004
>more downloads than players

>>717248332
Honestly it makes me wonder what his first implication was like. Since originally he was supposed to be an honorable warrior and not every single eldest child in Japan.

>>717252179
>It's almost like people make alt accounts just to bot or something
Really weird the guy who's flooding the marketboard with items isn't even from your server and is just sitting in an inn room 24/7 on a crafter....

>>717252087
Aether also reacts to honest, desperate wishes. That's what primals are.

>>717252241
So bots use these not players

>>717252283
Nah simple tweaks is a player add-on with 6 mil+ downloads that essentially adds cheats like letting you see peoples exact hp in PvP and PvE.

>>717252146
>saying it in the chat
good luck getting SE to ban anyone over private messages in third party apps LMFAO

>>717252391
Wdym people get banned for using the chat all the time in FFXIV.
I got someone banned like a month ago for calling me stupid in chat.

>>717252329
It was only really useful when it let you know when you could slidecast

>>717252438
why can't you fucking read? nobody is talking about addons in xiv chat they're doing it in their private discord servers

>>717252087
You are genuinely retarded.

>>717252117
giwtwm

>>717252498
Well yeah maybe you can't read, obviously I'm talking about them putting it into in-game chat which people do in PF all the time.
Every person who talks about being unable to adjust I automatically report because I know they're talking about how they can't figure out how to change what they're addons telling them to do in some linkshell.

>>717251791
>I swear I'm not cheating!!!
>o-okay I cheat but who cares?!
Concession accepted

>>717252604
Adding good looking outfits to the game is not cheating

>>717251962
ok cheater, enjoy your title and pixelated glowstick

>>717252460
There's an addon that makes it so you can walk the whole time while casting.

They used that one since HW it also finishes your cast early on BLM so it's like you have a .2s cast time it's the Count Brusef special.

>I cheat so I can have the virtual achievement of no worth that you don't have.
how do you respond without sounding mad?

>>717252146
people are using hacked macros and addons to use chair sitting emotes on the walls of LIMSA, the most populated space in the game, and this guy thinks he's getting anyone banned over addons
utterly delusional. if SE gave a shit addons wouldn't be so prevalent with millions of downloads.

>>717252015
anon it was tied to the dungeon

>>717252708
They can't see what you're doing in game but they can see the chat.
The GM tools are hilariously bad I was using cheat engine in 24 mans to speed hack the whole way through and just told the GM in jail I was lagging that day.

>>717252771
that gm's name? albert einstein

>>717252438
>I got someone banned like a month ago for calling me stupid in chat.
No you didn't they don't disclose punishment. Unless you know the guy personally you have no proof of him getting banned

>>717252824
It's almost like people use throwaway discords for pug groups and you can see people complaining about getting banned that you rile up. You get a 3 day vacay for nono words in chat including saying a strat or person is stupid when they take your spot.

>>717252438
>I got someone banned like a month ago for calling me stupid in chat.
woman behavior

>>717252737
Anon, not all of them were.
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Blueprint_Protocol

>>717252902
Sounds like you're making shit up to avoid your bitch made ego from getting hurt. Stick to discord xister

>>717253034
Do I?
Say that in-game to me and see what happens.
This tranny I baited by asking if traps were gay and they called me a bigot.

>>717253241
I've said way worse to trannies on my server and I've yet to be hit up by a GM

>>717252958
thats not the dungeon quest. The dungeon takes place after the msq and makes a point of the endless guy Constancy still being around despite the machine being turned off.

>>717253241
>I got someone banned for calling me stupid
>screenshot says something about kicking people from novice network and calling a politician bad names
Unless you are said politician something is not adding up here.

You can get banned for anything in this game.It just require 1 schizo that care enough to report you

I come from the future bearing dire news, Sphene won't join us but Wuk Lamat will.

>>717253491
I'm getting them banned not the other way around.

>>717253552
They usually lie about what they say to try to virtue signal.

>>717253589
Not really though

>>717253589
Me
I am that schizo

>>717253637

>>717253613
Why are you censoring the names you cuck.

>>717253685
I've literally specified no trannies in my groups before and have never been touched. What server you on?

>>717253685
The people who get banned always try to downplay what they said/did.
Victim complex niggas all of them

>>717253697
Because I don't need schizos tracking me down.

>>717253516
All of the quests also stays around after the msq, when the mezzo terminal is cut off.

>>717253798
>Someone says something dumb and wrong
>Say bullshit
>dingdong bannu

>>717253836
Bold of you to assume they can't do that regardless.

See this is why I stick to Materia. GMs don't give a fuck unless they are japs

>>717253951
Then go for it I guess I'll just block you.

>>717253685
This is true you can get people banned for names like "[anything] Milk" or "Weed [anything]" if you just report them and say it's an inappropriate euphemism.
Honestly you can get anyone banned if they direct any form of insult at you.

>>717254264
You don't have to insult them, you can just be dismissive

>>717253836
>the excalibur tag
i see why this game gets such a rap from shitposters for being a safespace, people shit on troons and the like all the time in EU servers and nothing ever gets done, meanwhile US are playing on nanny state servers