Thread 717247812

This game is the most brutal showcase of how an actual alien invasion would go. You don't heroicaly save everyone and you shouldn't. If you see a civilian on a terror mission with chrysalids you kill them to prevent more zombies and save your guys. Your guys can get mind controled leading to complete chaos when you try to evacuate from a clearly doomed mission. It doesn't ask you to save all your precious soldiers. It asks you to lead a global organization in a world close to colapse. Can you do it Commander?
Im a zoom zoom so at first i couldn't get into the game but now it hooked me. It's a masterpiece and one of the greatest games ever made.

>>717247812 (OP)
Based zoom zoom, now read some classics like Starship Trooper by Heinlein you'll love it.

Lol what. The ayys barely do fuck all. A brutal invasion is war of the worlds but where they don't die from not vaxxing

>>717247848
But there the humans are the ones invading and the war reaches a stalemare soon

>>717247812 (OP)
>It doesn't ask you to save all your precious soldiers
No, but I will, thanks to mutual surprise and aliens with the memories of goldfish that are willing to wait for me to finish lobbing layer after layer of explosive at them while they stand still with their thumbs up their asses too afraid to cause any collateral damage to the planet they are conquering.

Actually, have you even played this game? Or did you read some fan fiction about it, or maybe some IGN article that paints it as hard? Or did some faggot on /v/ share his opinion that the game is hard on superhuman despite each difficulty changing only enemy count and stats with no tactical or intelligence changes at all?

It is a good game but it's flaws are so deep that it's fucking baffling nobody has made a successor or even a mod that is better than the base game. No mod is capable of improving it though as OpenXCOM inherently uses downgraded AI.

>>717248330
It's my first time playing retard. I don't look up best strategies for the game. The only real strategy i know about is making laser rifles and selling them. Maybe you should be kinder :)

>>717247812 (OP)
An actual alien invasion would barely be any fucking ground forces. A civilization capable of light year speed spaceflight would surely have the tech capable to just kill us from orbit.

>>717248630
Im guessing they're not that advanced and they need us for something.

>>717248859
XCom 2 makes perfect sense as to why they kept us around.

>>717247812 (OP)
Uhh that's a game about black market war profiteering.

>>717248859
I mean yeah there is a reason they abduct people, but in a more realistic scenario XCOM wouldn't be able to operate as easily as it does, or at all. But that wouldn't be a very fun game.

>>717247812 (OP)
It's hard for me to go back to original dos game.
What do you think of xcom 2012?

>>717249117
I only played 2 next to Ufo Defense. 1 was way too expensive. I liked 2 but i think i prefer the original.

>>717248959
GREY market, you scum.

I'd play it but I don't play games where UI takes half the screen space.

I think the original XCOM is one of the best TRPGs ever made, it would be undisputably the best if it had some kind of timer during missions to force the player to make choices, X-piratez fixed that with the freshness system.

>>717248491
hmm then you should at least look into the extensive use of grenades

Are TFTD and Apocalypse any good?

>>717249973
TFTD is the original game but much harder, Apocalypse doesn't really feel like XCOM to me but there are people that enjoy it, i personally think the mix of turn based with real time doesn't work well

>>717247812 (OP)
>This game is the most brutal showcase of how an actual alien invasion would go.
not in the slightest

>>717247848
Ah yes the doing math homework book

Why was X-Com so good, /v/? Nothing released after it even comes close

>>717247812 (OP)
>This game is the most brutal showcase of how an actual alien invasion would go.

>>717250096
>mix of turn based with real time doesn't work well
you don't quite mix them though
realtime plays like a janky rts with overpowered dual wielding
also brainsucker pods were obviously designed with realtime in mind

the ufo series i think plays realtime mode really well

>>717250183
original or nucom?

Actual alien invasion would be 99% of humanity suddenly dropping dead from an unknown pathogen one day, before anybody even notices anything.

>>717249283
>GREY
Grey? Xcom, shoot this poster, he is an alien in disguise.

>>717250558
You just made all the rednecks cry, apologize right now.

>>717250202
kino

I've always wondered what would have happened if aliens were real, they'd somehow obtain a copy of XCOM, got offended by the premise of the game to the point that they'd start an invasion over it.

>>717250558
Would they even bother killing us?

>>717247812 (OP)
>how an actual alien invasion would go.
Not really. The tech gap would most likely be much bigger for a spacefaring race. Research wouldn't help much as just too advanced to replicate the manufacturing process. It's like suggesting that uncontacted indigenous peoples could build their own machine guns within a year if they captured some.
It's closer to a Predator scenario where they're just having fun not invading.

There's no life within our reach.
Or they are a shittier civilization, bacteria even.

Personally i blame niggers and jews

>>717250558
pretty much or nuking from orbit
if space isn't fake and gayit is and visiting ayylmaos were capable of traversing galaxies we fundamentally do not stand a chance should they decide to wipe us out
we can certainly fight back but denial of this is cope

>>717250965
My headcannon was that the ethereals are shit at warfare.
Also, their main base is in Mars so it's just a small faction of aliens, it's not like they can go back to "Europe" to recruit more aliens and resupply.

>>717251085
>pretty much or nuking from orbit
asteroiding

>>717251160
my headcanon is that the story is fucking gay and retarded
a civilization capable of technology to the point of magic entirely reliant on the physical presence of the commander in order to maximize the strategic value of troops

and at no point was there any decision to clone/recreate the commander's brain

the ethereals werent shit at warfare, the writers were just shit at writing and world building

>>717248117
You should actually read it rather than listen to takes from retards who also haven't read it.

>>717250558
either that or an endless drone swarm produced from 3D printers in hidden corners of the solar system

>ERMMM, ACKCHUALLY IN REALITY *SNORTS* ANY CIVILIZATION WITH THE ABILITY TO TRAVEL THE STARS WOULDN'T BOTHER WITH A GROUND INVASION *SNORT*

You don't know that. You are basing your opinions on complete supposition and literally zero evidence.

>>717250965
but we have virus in 3.5" diskettes

>>717251616
>i'm a gigantic retard
could've just typed that

>>717250965
A Type II civilization is going to steal the sun and fuck off

>>717251870
Then why didn't you?

>>717251353
>a civilization capable of technology to the point of magic entirely reliant on the physical presence of the commander in order to maximize the strategic value of troops
Imagine that wasn't the case and your genetically engineered troops turn against you.
>and at no point was there any decision to clone/recreate the commander's brain
We don't know what is needed in order to make another one. It might require a planet's worth of industry, or more, which is something they don't have.
>the ethereals werent shit at warfare, the writers were just shit at writing and world building
I think they just didn't care in all honesty, but as long as the story is vague enough for me to fill in the blanks I'm happy.
At least they don't provide terrible explanations that suck dick like the remake.
I still like the remake but the writing sucks dick, as I just said.

>>717251884
>no u
lmao

>>717247812 (OP)
And what if that is simply what you are conditioned to believe and adhere to?

>>717251616
Explain why would they?
>muh resources
Unless we are the resource it's much more efficient to just kill everyone before they even realize what's going on. The fuck are we gonna do?

>>717251946
Yeah.
Resources are everywhere and it's just geocentric narcissism to assume the dirt ball we're stood on is exceptional.
If we were ever detected and determined to be capable of presenting a threat, ever, we'd be struck by a 12 mile long relativistic projectile and neutralized.

The entirety of the mars forces are a bunch of different alien species modified and cyborg'd.
They dont nuke cities because that would be a massive loss of lifestock. It would also probably rape the atmosphere, and if the big Brain is anything to go by - Earth is just like how mars was back in the day and thats why Aliens want to claim it.

>>717251946
>Explain why
No. First YOU explain why you think ANY alien civilization would EVER adhere to or even meet our preconceived notions about warfare and the waging of warfare or why anything they would ever do would ever even be immediately recognizable to us let alone even remotely conceivable using our own, entirely homegrown frame of reference.

You niggers think of extraterrestrials in human terms. Stop doing that.

>>717248630
for a sufficiently advanced alien race foot soldiers might cost them next to nothing, nor would they necessarily care if they took heavy life losses as their morals will be different
and of course there's the question of preserving the habitat they're trying to take
glassing yhe planet from orbit would ruin any chance of studying us

>>717252569
>shitty MK midi ULTRA music starts playing

I'd like to imagine an alien invasion would go ground side, largely for the entertainment value of hunting down their prey. Like you'd have an all to eager noble class aliens wanting to prove their worth, by sending in their shitty lower class grunts.

>>717252569
>No date or time attributed to article
HMMMMMMM....

>>717252569
>opens mouth and faceplants into earth

if I was an ayylmao trying to conquer Earth without damaging the planet, I would abduct humans in key positions, replace them with clones, then instruct them to turn the planet into a prison

>>717248630
they're not here for raw resources, as the galaxy is full of them. they're here for the only thing special about this rock: massive amounts of protein, fat and the like.

If our leaders somehow became aware that aliens were surveilling us with the intent of assessing what threat we could pose, they would probably do everything in their ability to appear incompetent and to make it seem as though we were on the brink of a self-made apocalypse.

Just unleash the Large Hadron Collider if things get grim and there's no chance of winning this. They won't take us alive.

>>717252859
In XCOM the aliens infiltrate governments if you allow the to set up a base and then fail to destroy it up in time.
Thankfully you can become a gun runner later in the game.

An alien invasion would be them revealing they have a cure for cancer, dementia, and a few other old age issues and they'll give it to our richest people if they give them everything the aliens want, and they'd give it to them and several billionaires would live to 150, and that'd be it.

We'd never even find out what their weapons were.

What would your perfect Xcom sequel/sidequel be /v/?

I was a hater when The Bureau was first shown off in 2010 (as XCOM, simply) but now the premise of a squad-based FPS like Republic Commando but set in Cold War Americana or some similar setting sounds pretty neat. Not that we'll get it now because Bureau was a mid-tier tps.

I wish Pheonix Point was actually good.

After reading through this thread i can safely say that 90% of it didnt even play the game or its sequels and are just turning it into a stealth /x/ thread.

>>717253083
Literally all /v/ threads are stealth threads for other topics, unless it's about a really shit game. Then it's genuine.

>>717253083
>and are just turning it into a stealth /x/ thread.
Good. Discussion of video games genuinely fucking sucks.

Xenonauts was fine but OG X-com is still better. I have no idea what the fuck is happening with Xenonauts 2.

I liked chimera squad

So has the dev of OXCE finally implemented terrain restrictions for transports?
I've had a big mod i've been ready to spend time developing for years, but the fact that everything has to fly (unless its TFTD) really breaks the whole idea.

>>717255089
*waterboards you*

>>717247812 (OP)
no it isn't
an alien invasion would have 0 ways of opposing them, they're in orbit, you are not, they don't really have a need to send troops on the ground

>>717252870
why the fuck would they even want that, they're a space-faring empire, they can just make proteins that they can actually, you know, digest or use, at rates that exceeds earth's biosphere

>>717252628
they might value intelligence too much to just waste it away
more likely than going through the effort of making whole ass footsoldiers, they just print cheap (for them) drone swarms and send that down
which is even less enjoyable to fight because these might even just be swarms of mosquito sized drones that just inject neurotoxin

>>717255669
>not a blaster launcher with a single projectile
you done fucked up

>>717250202
EDF 5 and 6 are probably the highest kino I will ever experience

Yo, I just got openxcom. Which megamod should I try out first? Also, I'm going to bed so I'll see what answer gets the most support in the morning

>>717255946
Open Xcom Extended

I miss the playthrough threads we used to have

>>717247812 (OP)
I fucking wisb something like this happened irl, the only way for this world to come together is aliens attacking everyone no matter the race or nationality

>>717257084
Oh yeah, I can see you enlisting when aliums hit india

>>717257084
What if I told you we don't need aliens and that any common enemy will do?
Lizards or whatever?

>>717252985
>What would your perfect Xcom sequel/sidequel be /v/?
Just Xenonauts but with higher production value.
Or if we're looking for an actual story sequel, I'd want a game where humans build a big spaceship and it's carrying a giant nuke to the alien homeworld. You have to pirate alien ships and outsposts while defending your ship on the way there before eventually dropping the nuke on them and wiping out all life on their homeworld.
It would involve xcom tactical combat as well as elements of FTL and a Highfleet-style strategy map where you are using your onboard sensors and weapons to evade, misdirect and attack enemy defense fleets. Actually I'd shamessly steal pretty much all the Highfleet strategic map mechanics because they are fantastic and fit perfectly.

>>717247812 (OP)
yeah it's pretty fun
glad to hear you enjoy it

>>717257158
Thats the thing, they wont just hit india, if they are collecting human genes, they have to abduct people from everywhere.
>>717257190
Yeah but aliens are cool.

>>717252985
xcom
every single "sequel" "prequel" reimagining whatever gets the basics wrong, that's it, i just want xcom, but with better graphics/audio/etc.
even oxce mods get it wrong, which is pretty astounding

>>717251160
It makes no sense that the ayys don't have vastly superior reconnaissance technology. Why can they not simply track a jet back to base and instantly vaporize it from orbit? They have anti-grav technology, biological manipulation to the point of near instantaneous cloning(Chryssalids), plasma technology so advanced they can fit it into a fucking handgun.
In a "realistic" scenario XCOM base would be found immediately and promptly raped by Chryssalids or just simply bombarded to ash.

Will xcom 3 ever be a thing and will it be underwater?

>>717252628
I agree that there are plenty of potential motives for keeping the planet and us intact, but that doesn't mean they'd let our military be operational, much less an active threat.

>>717258395
That can be explained by aliens not having the means to build the necessary ordinances for that.
For all we know, all of their weapons were stockpiled in advance. All they have is a base on Mars and whatever they can setup on Earth before XCOM discovers them.
Some weapons might require industrializing an entire planet for all we know, with construction alone taking years.
Also, this is all headcanon, the real reason is that the devs didn't care.

>>717252307
>You niggers think of extraterrestrials in human terms
there are still people who think that the best way to look for extraterrestrial life is to look for habitable planets.

>>717253238
Video games can be very fun to discuss. Just not with /v/.

Does anyone else feel like the early game gives you more options with weapons and equipment than late game?

>>717261602
That's because that's the case.

>one day, out of nowhere, alien spores drop all over Earth
>the spores grow into a mutagenic fungal organism that covers the majority of the planet
>90%+ of the human race is dead or mutated into monsters within a month
>the aliens aren't even trying to invade, they're not any kind of army or insurgent group, they're some weirdo religious cult trying to turn Earth into a single organism
>this is the only reason why the survivors can fight back against the "invaders"; they're barely competent lunatics
>the bad ending is the canon ending, the aliens agree to resettle what's left of humanity on Mars just so they'll stop fucking around with their "grow a giant alien super-brain" plan

Alright chat which one is the good one

X-Com: UFO Defense

X-Com: Apocalypse

X-COM: Terror from the Deep

X-Com: Enforcer

X-Com: Interceptor

Dread X Collection

>>717256267
They still pop up occasionally, but usually the OP does like two missions and then goes
>oh shit real life emergency cant continue
and then the thread dies.

>>717263742
Just play UFO Defense, the 2013 Enemy Uknown, and Xcom 2

>>717263142
I kinda like how Afterlight happens at roughly the same time as Aftershock, and hearing the events of the second game unfold on Earth as we're trying to survive Mars.

It's a shame that The Bureau's setting was wasted on a mediocre Mass Effect clone. We need more Cold War era turn based tactics games, Phantom Doctrine was great.

>>717263742
>UFO Defense
The original and best
>Terror from the Deep
Basically just a reskin of the original, somewhat harder than the base game
>Apocalypse
Drastically different than the previous two, painfully unfinished but still fun
>Enforcer
"We made an absolutely fucking godawful third person shooter and slapped the X-Com label on it for brand recognition"
>Interceptor
The X-Com formula applied to a space flight sim instead of turn based tactics, interesting as a proof of concept but also a buggy mess and not nearly as fun as it sounds
>XCOM/XCOM 2
Modern reboots, somewhat divisive, I like them but the original is still better

>>717264467
>Cold War era
Hammer & Sickle immediately comes into mind

>>717253042
how so? I played Phoenix Point and I find it alright, just becomes very tedious late-game but so are most other games in the genre.

Do the Nucom games do anything better than the original?

>>717266491
Levels and visuals obviously.

play x-piratez
come to /vst/

>>717251387
But that's what happens , what are you talking about? Are you confusing it with the movie maybe?

>>717252985
>80s or similar
>aliens are mysterious and we know jack shit about them
>the world musn't know, cover up everything
>start small
>base centric, not flying mobile command centre
>aliens are not dumb and trigger happy, they are calculating and they perform conspiracy theory level plots from the shadows so your agency has to uncover the plot as a main mechanic
>rival anti-alien agencies with a diplomacy system, ally them or become competitive, race to the saucer

That, or just give me what was the original inspiration for XCom, the UFO TV series but as a game.

>>717263868
>brb someone's at the door
>never heard from again

>>717267510
Prove it or fuck off.