Thread 717278368

Right is one of the best games of the last decade.
Left is the best game of all time.
No more brother wars.

>>717278368 (OP)
>"last decade"
>20 years old

>>717278368 (OP)
OP here, I meant the opposite.

>>717278458
Congrats, you noticed my mistake.

>>717278458
OP is retarded, it seems he was referring to left as one of the best games of the last decade, and the right as one of the greatest games of all time.

>>717278368 (OP)
>2005
>last decade
ok let's get you to bed grandma

Congratulations to RE4 Remake on destroying and making the original slop irrelevant.

>>717278368 (OP)
That's what a good Remake will do. Fuse what works now, with great design from the past. Imo, the RE2 Remake is better though.

>>717278483
>>717278543
No one is playing your low quality 2005 shit anymore retards.

>>717278705
yes they are, you fucking retard.

>>717278639
It's not. Remake 2 was a trial run to see if they were talented enough to remake 4.

>>717278368 (OP)

No.
RE4make takes a legitimately top tier game and removes all personality and soul from it. Turns it into a mod for the RE2 remake. Neutered, sterilized, mechanically the same fucking thing as two previous games. It is a bad game and people who defend it need to repent.

>>717278368 (OP)
oh is this the point where we're supposed to forget how much you faggots insulted RE4 in order to shill your demake slop?
lmaoooooo get forgotten faggot

>>717278368 (OP)
So this is a bait attempt to instigate a flameware about RE4 original vs remake, by saying that remake is better?
Well, it looks like you've been solved. Gotta take more bait classes.

>>717278639
Mechanics don't age. If it worked back then, it works now.

I replayed RE4 Remake again and used the blacktail. I'm still in disbelief watching some enemies just not fucking stagger at all. I should be used to it by now but watching someone take that many shots to the head without staggering starts becoming questionable.

It's still fun, but I'm probably just doing a NG+ playthrough next time to carry over OP weapons and blast through it even faster. I don't like it more than the original, but I still think the remake succeeds at being replayable.

>>717278783
>>717278861
>>717278869
No they're not. Time to accept reality and cope with RE4 Remake being the highest praised game in the series.

>>717279021
you are dumb.

>>717278368 (OP)
>best game of all time.
quake 3 is the best game of all time

>>717279090
If I were, I'd be an original slop enjoyer

>>717279203
seems to me like you've got a taste for shit, though, retard-kun.

Despite the discourse the original re4 was great, but the remake is not the worst of other remakes. But you niggers relish in drama so who the fuck cares. Oh yeah that's all the near do wells accomplish... Wait that includes me, damn so much conflict for no real reward. Why even live in this modern age?

>>717278765
would the reticle in RE4R just continue to go up if you just kept firing?

>>717278368 (OP)
RE4 and RE4 Demake are too VERY different games, they are incomparable. One is a finely tuned action game in the classic Arcade tradition, and the other is a cynical corporate demake with a Twinkified main character and generic TPS gameplay. The OG RE4 defined a generation, the demake has already been forgotten.

>>717279203
you are a retard man. "Original slop" means nothing. How hard is it for you to brush your teeth in the morning?

>>717279021
>re7 has a better rating than re4, re5 and REmake
LMAO

>>717278797
Nah, you're just bad. The fact you used "neutered" unironically just shows you don't know what you're talking about.

>>717278791
Nah, the games design is preferable to me.

>>717279021
man, RE4 is great but by god, the HD remaster is just barely above the horrid PC port from 2008
I have only praise for the HD mod and its creators

>>717279012
Are you quickshotting or focus shooting? The game explicitly says that focused shots stagger more.

>>717279021
Congrats to RE4 Remake. Well done. Original cock sucking disingenuous lovers are a fucking menace to society.

>>717279761
Oh does it? I assumed it didn't matter and was more of a damage threshold or something. I've replayed it like 6 times now and I didn't know this. Does this mean the SG and the Punisher are significantly more useful at staggering once they have the laser sight?
That said, the Blacktail was really good at just killing everything, headshots didn't even matter with that gun.

>>717278368 (OP)
A demake can't be better than the original. Especially when it has worse gameplay.

Why are 05 RE4 babies so delusional? They might as well transition with that kind of delusion.

>>717278368 (OP)
>Left is the best game of all time.
That's not Ocarina of Time. That's just some zoomer slop.

>>717278705
>low quality
>2005
The one from 2005 doesn't have built in input lag to artificially increase difficulty in case you didn't notice.

>>717278368 (OP)
Left is RE2 Remake 2

>>717279901
>Does this mean the SG and the Punisher are significantly more useful at staggering once they have the laser sight?
Yes.

>>717279482
>classic Arcade tradition
here we go again
>generic TPS
original resident evil 4 was a generic tps

>>717278368 (OP)
RE4 Remake and MH Wilds is the culmination of Capcom's abandonment of their arcade roots to appeal to normalfags that only care about cinematics.

>>717280439
>tps game that everyone copied off of for 20 years straight
>generic
I honestly can't tell if you remake people are masters of bait posts or are genuinely living breathing textbook examples of the dunning kruger effect.

>>717280439
What games was it copying then

>>717279679
>The fact you used "neutered" unironically just shows you don't know what you're talking about.

Which brand of retard are you? The kind who refuses to acknowledge that Ashley doesn't show her panties anymore, or the kind who claims it doesn't matter?

>>717280657
>arcade roots
have you ever played an arcade shooter in your entire life?
crapcum has never released a rail shooter

>>717278368 (OP)
I just can't fathom how someone can tolerate REmake 4's controls or the RNG hitstun.

>>717278705
Nobody plays games after 2003 unless they're retarded

>>717280895
The fact the game is packed with more gameplay that's magnitudes more intense and difficult than the original. It's the opposite of neutered - REmake 4 has far more teeth than the original. The revised dialog and the removal of panty shots is lame, but the rest of the game has much more to it. Cope.

RE4R killed original cock suckers and Crowbcat. Pretty based imo.

>>717280182
Well that's good to know, guess I'm basically only ever using the SG or Punisher on future playthroughs. I prefer those pistols anyways.

>>717280956
You're not using the reticle properly lol. Your question also answers itself - people who enjoy REmake 4 aren't bad at videogames like you are. Hilarious you'd also bring up those RNG headshots, when your overrated sacred calf, REmake 1 was THE game that brought in RNG headahots.

>>717278368 (OP)
I don't play remakes that scorn sexuality or the female body for existing, sorry, not sorry.
>B-BUT THE WOMXYN FEEL—
Out of all the female friends I've had (and I naturally gravitate towards them because they're cute and often know how to yap well), none of them gave half of a shit about sexualization of females in media. If anything, they love it when the girl is hot, and I imagine that it's the uggos and troons who hate seeing the female form made idyllic.

>>717280956
>REmake 4's controls
They're about about as restrictive as tank controls, so it evens out.

>RNG hitstun
This is a good thing that only TMP shitters cry about, and is more in line with classic RE crit mechanics. It also isn't anywhere near as infrequent as people pretend if you just aim your fucking shots, but most shitposters haven't actually played 4R and just go based on shitpost webms.

>>717280792
>tps game that everyone copied off of for 20 years straight
kill switch not resident evil 4

>>717278483
Modern game design in a nutshell. Sacrificing control for realism faggotry.

>>717281203
>people who enjoy REmake 4 aren't bad at videogames like you are
resident evil games are casual games
anybody can beat these games

>>717278483
Now press left and right

Make an L with your left hand

>>717281176
I just did an SG run and it doesn't crit enough with the laser and exclusive upgrade to make it worth it. Blacktail was my favorite, Red9 with stock or punisher with laser were also fun.

>>717281589
Punisher is phenomenal throughout the entire game. I feel like the people who think it's shit have no idea what they're doing.

>>717281203
By controls, I mainly mean the sluggish feel of Leon's movement. It's bad on its own, but its abominable trash compared to RE4's snappy and responsive movement.
>your overrated sacred calf, REmake 1
Just argue with yourself anon. Not only is REmake in a completely different gameplay genre, but I don't give a rat's ass about it more than any other game in the series. The sentiment that it outright replaces the original were always parroted from the barely literate zoom zooms of its day.

>>717281314
>and is more in line with classic RE crit mechanics
This is ummm ackchually tier. RE4 is not classic RE and if you want to remake RE4 to be more like one then go the full measure and make the Hookman game. This compromise is just a shittier feeling RE4 that I won't replay without mods.

>ruined all of the bosses
>ruined the novistators
>removed "it"
>made salazar into a tranny
it was a slopmake

>>717281664
The Punisher's exclusive isn't as sexy as the others, so it gets ignored a lot. Shooting through shields is cool, though.

>>717281898
Nah, you're an idiot. RE4 is it's own thing but that doesn't mean it needs to or should abandon all old mechanics.

>>717282104
>ruined all of the bosses
Please explain how Salazar and Krauzer knife are better in the original.
>novistadors
They're harder to see instead of looking like moving blobs of glowing water. Play the game.

>>717282113
RE4's mechanics, in the way they deviate from classic RE, suit the game that RE4 actually is. You can't just marginally change those and turn RE4 into a classic feeling survival horror game. You would need to just make an entirely new game. You can like classic RE more. I do. But I'm not some drone who thinks that just stapling mechanics onto RE4 will somehow make it into a decent game of a genre it isn't trying to be.

The Remake just doesn't feel the same, I beat it once and now it bores me to tears for whatever reason, meanwhile I beat the original game like 10 times, maybe it's the controls, or the visuals being kinda ugly, I can't point it out.

>>717282330
Salazar is genuinely a bad boss fight and I don't think anyone likes it in the remake. A lot of talking and a lot of visual clutter, it's an annoying experience that more experienced players will skip with the golden egg. I don't think anyone's defending it in the original either, but at least it's over with quickly. The introduction of the novistadors is also much cooler in the original game. In terms of presentation and the "gimmick" associated with novistadors, the original does it much better.

>>717282518
RE4 classic's stagger system, especially how it worked with a gun like the TMP, was absolutely 100% one of the biggest flaws with the game mechanically. It's bad and doesn't serve the game except to make it easy for people who are bad, and speedrunners. I've played it more times than I can count and I've never used the TMP for long because of how fundamentally broken it is. Your entire premise is that 4 was mechanically sound, when in reality it had some flaws.

>>717278368 (OP)
no, left is a bastardization of 4. the game is too dark and edgy, the gameplay changes are annoying and fights no longer flow, characters are even more stupid, the game feels bloated, etc. I regret buying this piece of shit, I hate what resident evil has become

>>717278483
Maybe play it on PC instead of your under powered Series S.

>>717281203
>REmake 1 was THE game that brought in RNG headahots.
zoom zoom

>>717282794
that's an opinion

>>717278483
red dead redemption 2 and its consequences

>>717282863
dude theres a mouse on the screen

>>717282794
>RE4 classic's stagger system, especially how it worked with a gun like the TMP, was absolutely 100% one of the biggest flaws with the game mechanically.
You are a retard.
>It's bad and doesn't serve the game except to make it easy
Then the remake should have made it harder without relying on "whoops sometimes this mechanic just doesn't work" RNG horseshit.

>>717282690
>and I don't think anyone likes it in the remake.
I've never heard anyone say this. The dialogue, music, and fact that he actually moves makes him infinitely better to the point that it sounds like you haven't actually played the remake.
>In terms of presentation and the "gimmick" associated with novistadors, the original does it much better.
No it doesn't, because once you've seen one they become too easy to spot whereas in remake they can actually still surprise you with their camo. The jail introduction makes them too obvious. Completely surprising the player with them quitly is better and more in line with what they are.

>>717282906
>>717283057
You're bad at games and could only eek through professional in 4 by using the TMP. Your opinions don't matter.

>>717283160
yeah yeah, if that helps you sleep at night buddy

>>717283057
>Then the remake should have made it harder without relying on "whoops sometimes this mechanic just doesn't work" RNG horseshit.
You actually sound like a gamecube baby that got into the series with 4. Actually, you being a tendie would also explain your hatred of 4R.

>>717282794
flaws? the ganado are possessed people, of course headshots would stagger them. it was a mechanically sound choice you retard

>>717283059
>whereas in remake they can actually still surprise you with their camo.
something is missing in your brain if you can't shoot an obviously enemy shaped rock that stands out from everything

>>717283227
I've played one single release of 4 classic than you have all versions of 4 and 4R. You're bad at games and don't know shit about mechanics.

>>717283267
>try to talk about mechanical flaws
>give a flimsy in world justification instead of talking about actual game mechanics
Smartest 4R hater.

>>717282690
I like it, he's an end of chapter boss, he should be something tough and I like the dialogue in the fight as he gets more and more pissed off until he's just yelling, he probably has a little too much health on Professional but I've never had to rely on the egg

>>717283337
There is a 0% chance you didn't get caught off guard by the first 2 novies. Unless you didn't play the game, which is actually very likely.

>>717283424
>You're bad at games
get better materials

>>717279445
The reticle barely moves, it's the camera that spazzes up and down
This is a lazy hack for shit animation
>original
>camera stays very still
>weapon recoil is ANIMATED - leon's arms move back with the recoil
>game feels smooth and clear
>demake
>camera jerks and snaps around
>gun basically stays still
>game feels like an epilectic fit and causes motion sickness

>>717283492
i spotted it on the first rock, they're pathetic compared to the original

The remake won and we're better off that it did.

>>717283059
Salazar's dialogue during his boss fight is some of the most annoying shit in the entire game and showcases how Capcom's been trying to incorporate more cinematic moments in their games rather than just focusing on the gameplay experience. They removed a lot of the banter between Leon and Salazar in the remake so they decided to stuff it all in that one boss fight. It doesn't work because the player's too busy focusing on the fight. It's a weird design decision.

On the topic of Novistadors, they're pretty noticeable in the remake and I felt like they were a bit trickier in the original. Their camo surprised me on the first playthrough of the remake, but I still have a hard time judging how exactly close to me they are in replays of the original because of their cloaking. And like I said, their first introduction is just really well done when you first drop down into the sewers. It's a very cool and spooky way to introduce a new enemy, where as it's just so sudden in the remake that it doesn't feel as cool.

>>717283160
>>717283249
>You're bad at games
>You don't play the 'right' games
That's cool and all, but I notice neither of you are saying I'm wrong.

>>717283534
It's just "material", ESL thirdie shitposter who hasn't played 4R.

>>717283586
If you want to pretend they're easy to spot in the remake and that you saw the first 2 despite their lack of intro like in 4 classic, then try not to be dumb enough to pretend they're somehow harder to see than in the original where the game warns you about then beforehand and they're painfully obvious. It'll make your shitposting more believable.

>>717282794
It's funny the assumptions that REmake 4fags keep making about me itt purely based on me not tonguing REmake 4's ass. Anon, I've never even used the TMP in either game. RE4 is an action game before it is anything else and that does demand consistency, especially when the difference between an RE4 enemy being staggered vs not staggered is incredible compared to something like, for instance, a pain state in classic Doom. This change seems like a way to balance out the option to parry (which I resent existing) and really just results in the player's kit being less reliable. In RE4, you can very specifically target 1 guy to set up a melee attack that can hit multiple. In REmake 4, you don't have a guarantee so that kind of thing ends up being more improvisational. Maybe you like that more, but it's not for me.
By all means though, keep posting. I'm enjoying the responses others are leaving you.

>>717278368 (OP)
literally op

>>717280958
San Andreas came out in 2004.

>>717278368 (OP)
Trolling is against the rules, demake tranny shill

>>717279536
>How hard is it for you to brush your teeth in the morning?
It's not about how but rather with what.

>>717283948
You clearly never played the original, you can literally see them flying around in the remake before you fight them so an weird off colored rock you have never seen before was too obvious not to be an enemy

>>717284068
Oxymoron post

>>717283743
>showcases how Capcom's been trying to incorporate more cinematic moments in their games rather than just focusing on the gameplay experience.
You mean like the original game that had calls between them and lots of cool cutscenes? The complaint doesn't even make sense. And no, the dialogue isn't annoying. It and the song are perfectly in character for Salazar, as is the easter egg of humiliating him with an egg being his weakness. That's just good boss design.

>but I still have a hard time judging how exactly close to me they are in replays of the original
What? They're so easy to spot and every gun has a laser sight. You can also reaction melee.
>And like I said, their first introduction is just really well done
No way. They're enemies built around stealth and hiding and the game gives them a scripted introduction which completely undercuts it. Their intro is much better in the remake where they can just surprise you.

>>717283826
ever heard of "plural", one-joke willy?

>>717283805
You're completely wrong and defending worse mechanics because you're bad at games and hadn't played 1-3 before you played 4.

>>717284097
All toothpaste is ridden with fluoride poison.
https://allthepreaching.com/pages/video.php?id=7580534&time=3363.199414

>>717284305
Material isn't a countable noun in the context of material for a joke. Learn English, monkey.

>>717278368 (OP)
Sorry but there's literally 0 reason to play og when masterpiece remake exist

>>717283996
>RE4 is an action game before it is anything else
Wrong.
>and that does demand consistency,
Why do retards make shit up about game design rules and insist their nonsense is right with such confidence? Look at God Hand, an actual pure action game by Mikami from around the same time period, and tell me how consistent enemy reactions are.

>>717284108
I've played both versions more than you ever will. Try actually playing the original. Pay attention to the part where Salazar tells you about them and how he's sending them after you in the sewer/prison, and then how the game shows them to you explicitly before fighting them.

>>717284420
Ok, you got me, englishman
what a shame to only have one "argument" with all this vocabulary

>>717284719
He never tells you they would be invisible so them coming at you while cloaked was the surprise, meanwhile in the remake all you have to do is try shooting the weird rock to see if it alive, and if you do that enemy would never fool you again, the novistators got me at least in once in the original, the remake ones were a failure from their first appearance.
Also i don't give a shit if you have 1000 hours in the remake, it will always just be an inferior remake like all the rest of them

>>717284676
Evergreen

>>717284719
>>717285093
https://litter.catbox.moe/5pyo4oywc7dck9e0.mp4
This entire introduction is super cool/spooky and I don't really understand why you'd think the remake's way of doing it was more impressive or better.

>>717285093
>He never tells you they would be invisible so them coming at you while cloaked was the surprise
It can't be a surprise when he fucking tells you they're coming and the game makes a big deal of showing exactly where they're coming from.

RIP to Crowbcat

>>717285437
No and no, you're such an obvious remakebab who looked up the original on youtube it hurts

>>717285597
Yes and yes. I've been playing RE games longer than you, and I've played 4 more times than you ever will. You likely haven't even played the remake and just want to shitpost about it here like every other angry third worlder and tendie.

I don't really care about RE4 in particular but people with this mindset >>717284449 need to kill themselves as soon as possible.
95% of my prejudicial hatred for remakes is right there. I remember when RE4R came out and niggers here were posting the original's steamcharts numbers in hopes that the board would ridicule them for having the audacity to... play Resident Evil 4 during the week that its remake released. I haven't seen anything else on /v/ as pathetic as that.

>ad-hominem throwing remakebaby
yawn

>>717285991
>redditor
And now the argument is done.

remake was fun but dont really wanna go back to it with all the RNG gameplay making it kinda annoying and less consistent.

>tfw love all RE games from RE1 1996 to RE8
>yes, even CV and Zero

Just me?

>>717286395
CV, 0, 6 and 7 sucked, but the rest are at least decent.

>>717278368 (OP)
right looks like a beautiful hand painting of a real place, left looks like something a kid playing with assets in roblox would make

>>717286395
>started RE8
>hey bro I know just what you want after 10 minutes of unskippable cutscenes of insipid 25 year long RE timeline drivel
>forced slow walking down a linear path
The word of mouth didn't make me feel like the game after this point was worth it. Devs who start their games like this should be hanged until death. RE8 is the only game I can recall dropping before getting 30 minutes in.

I don't like the demake

>>717278368 (OP)
OP i will never call a mouthbreathing inbred mongoloid like you a brother.

>>717287226
Worked on my machine, should have played 7 so you were invested in the walking parts

>>717287696
I played 7 but its early game pacing is so controlled that it discourages replaying. If RE8 was going to be much the same, then I was just going to do myself a favor and save the time until I became disappointed again. Aesthetics wise, at least RE7 is ripping off TCM, which is kino. RE8 looked like it was mainly ripping off the Hugh Jackman Van Helsing movie, which is NOT kino.

I thought the remake was a blast desu

Why did they turn all of the gemstones in the remake to the infinity eggs from MvCI?

These look like rocks cut in the shape of gemstones and then painted over with cheap paint

>>717282998
kill yourself cuck

should I play RE4 on PC or wii?
I recently got a nunchuk and sensorbar combo working on pc and remembered this game has a wii port

>>717290118
MnK RE players deserve to be executed by getting beat to death with a rock

>>717290158
The wii version is beyond fun with the wii mote, but it actually breaks the difficulty.

>>717278705
I played a game from 1997 (Total Annihilation) today
And it RAPES most games made this decade

>>717284054
GTA is pure dogshit so
Even my 7 year old self could tell its gameplay was terrible

>>717290158
wii

>>717290158
Wii, but use a classic controller instead of the motion ones. The motion controls in RE4 are so so good they absolutely break the game

>>717278797
This but sh2 gaymake

>>717290158
>>717291289
>>717292806
>>717294276
GC, Wii or PC with HD Project is best

>>717282961
>red dead redemption 2
Game of the Decade